The Charlie Kirk Show - Is Weed My Most Controversial Take?

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

What aren't we considering when it comes to marijuana? With talks of reclassifying weed in the news, Charlie offers his thoughts and presents the risks that no one seems to be discussing. Then, Jack Hibbs joins to expose California's latest scheme, AB495, which some say could legalize child trafficking. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!  Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio. A very important episode here, a comprehensive take on marijuana reclassification. This subject is in the news, and I want to hear from you, Freedom at Charliekirk.com. It's the most thorough approach I've ever made on this topic, and I want a variety of different opinions to hear it. I know that a majority of young people are pro-marijuana legalization, and that are perfectly fine with more and more people smoking weed. but I want you to listen to this. Text it to your friends and then I want to hear from you

Freedom at Charlie Kirk.com. It's a critically important topic that impacts our country, our future, and our children. Email us as always, freedom at Charlie Kirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. That is the Charlie Kirk Show podcast page.

Get involved a Turning Point USA at tpUSA.com. That is tpUSA.com. Also, Jack Hibbs joins the show to talk about California, a bill that would allow the legalization of child kidnapping and more. Buckle up, everybody here, we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job. Building one of the most powerful youth organizations

ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. We are going to start the show today with an argument. We're going to try to make a case. Now, mind you, the argument we're going to make is going to divide a lot of our audience. It will be divided by generational lines and divided by geography.

And that's okay. It is necessary sometimes to weigh in on the most controversial issues of imaginable. And this is one issue when when I go on campus, one of the few issues that the audience tends to not love the perspective that I have. But I'm still unwavering in my opinion on this. And this is all stemming from something. And by the way, President Trump is doing a phenomenal and fabulous job. We remain committed towards continuing the MAGA agenda. But President Donald Trump confirmed during his press conference on Monday that the administration is looking at no decisions have been made. So it's a perfect time for us to submit our argument for consideration. Looking at reclassifying marijuana. The reclassification would move marijuana out of a Schedule 1 drug. It would then get moved down to Schedule 3, which is for drugs with moderate to low potential for physical and psychological dependence, such as anabolic.

steroids and testosterone. President Trump said he has not made a final decision, and he is still weighing it. So here is the view that we have on this program. The view that I have in particular is that, of course, marijuana is not good for you. You know, a lot of people will say that, well, marijuana has all these wonderful upsides. You can use it to relax and to go to sleep. We have vastly underestimated. This is the first contention, even if you are in favor of legalization, And in favor of reclassification, you have to agree that there has been a, there has been a downplaying of the negative parts of widespread and casual and recreational marijuana use. We have abundant parts of data, like we have abundant pieces of data at this point to be able to go piece by piece and ask the question, has this made people here? healthier? Is it making society healthier? Is it making people sicker? So let's just go through

some of the data just on the health aspects. I think it's important to first talk about. So from the data that we have in front of us, numerous longitudinal studies link heavy marijuana use, especially in adolescence to increase risk of psychosis, schizophrenia, anxiety, and depression. Cognitive impairment. THC affects memory, attention and learning. Chronic use may lead to persistent cognitive deficits, also respiratory harm. Smoking cannabis can cause chronic bronchitis, lung irritation, with unknown long-term cancer risks. We're still learning. And by the way, for those of you in the audience that might be over the age of 50,

what these kids are smoking and consuming when it comes to marijuana is significantly different than what you smoked at Woodstock or in the 1970s or early 1980s. It is more powerful. It is laced with stuff that you did not have previously. It is a different argument. So dismiss any memory you might have of a generation prior. There's so many studies I could go through, this one in particular by Dr. Daniel Amon,

scary ways marijuana impacts the developing brain. My first contention is this. We have to agree that there has been an intentional downplaying of the negative parts of marijuana. For so many kids I talk to say, oh, it's no different than just drinking Diet Coke. It's no different than just drinking Gatorade. It's from the earth.

It's fine, man. We have an increase in hospitalization visits for psychosis. Half of marijuana users talk about increased depression, increased anxiety. Long-term effects. Modern cannabis is vastly more potent than in the 1970s. THC concentrations exceed 20 to 30 percent. They are common with concentrates reaching 70. to 90 percent. The long-term neurological and psychiatric impacts of such high doses are poorly

understood and could present serious public health crisis later. So we just must first say that there has been a downplaying of what this drug actually is, especially as we present it to young people. Now, more towards the societal impacts. A study last year out of Canada offered the strongest evidence yet in children associated with psychiatric or psychotic disorders when a person loses contact with reality. Consuming marijuana while pregnant increases the odds of preterm birth, low birth rate, and infant death. A study this year out of San Francisco shows that marijuana is really bad for your heart and we can't miss the IQ one. A 2021 analysis that looked at several thousand studies found overwhelming evidence that marijuana use lowers IQ, especially

when it's used by children under 18. The average IQ loss was about two points. That's a lot to lose from something as common as weed. Now, but you might say, Charlie, I know weed is not good, but I don't care if somebody else does it. It does not impact me. And I want to challenge that head on. First of all, it does impact you.

Do you think Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, and Denver, Vegas, Los Angeles, and parts of Phoenix even, have gotten better, healthier, stronger, more pleasant, since the legalization of marijuana. Do you think New York is a better place to walk around? Do you think it invites the right types of people? Do you think it lifts us up higher towards national unity, strength, towards a goal of either defeating the Chinese or being virtuous, going on a journey, triumping over evil? do you think marijuana invites that kind of culture? Open air drug use is widely rejected by any decent society. And the consumption of marijuana, as we have seen out in the open in so many of these cities, doesn't just create a messier.

It creates a less enjoyable place to live. Now, there's a video, which I think is very important, of a DC resident walking through the new Trump version of D.C. and commenting on how much better it is. Let's play cut 406. Man, down the city is quiet as a church motion. I came all the way down Pennsylvania Avenue this morning. So peaceful, you know.

I don't smell no weed, young. I don't see no homeless people. I mean, I came all the way through the southeast side all the way down here. You can see now I'm at the White House, gentlemen, man. It's quiet, young. It's a shame that it takes somebody to have to, sit in your classroom in order for you to be in order, ya. Because that's what it feels like, you know.

You got to be babysitter to do your job, you know. Stepping out of the troll for years. You got to do better, you got to do better, yeah. You got to do better, you know. And mainly, young, you've got the problems. It's us, man. It's always us giving everybody a bad name, you know. Did you notice the first thing he said?

I don't smell no weed no more. he mentions it before homeless people and before feeling safer the first thing he doesn't smell weed so it's interesting unlike drinking a beer and i will address alcohol because people try to make that comparison if somebody drinks a beer unless they get in a vehicle or become violent or belligerent i don't have to smell that unless i get in close contact but when somebody smokes weed out in the open i do have to smell it i that have a less pleasant experience in that moment or throughout the day because of your licentiousness and weed is undoubtedly and the widespread usage of weed especially in public is a leading indicator of criminality and degeneracy.

And again, a note to the medical stuff, it's by far its worst effects are on young people. And I'm going to get deep into the young person thing in a second because legalization comes with a tacit endorsement from the government that this is okay. And I'm going to go through some of these numbers here and show that where it is legalized, youth rates go up because they think it's okay. Surveys show this. Independent review studies show this. I want you to answer this question if you are pro legalization or reclassification. If more people did marijuana, would America be better? That's the most important question. If more people smoked, consumed marijuana, Would America be a better country?

Yes or no? It's a very important question. And if your answer is no, then we should do things that will lessen and that will decrease usage, not endorse it and try to increase usage. We're honored to be partnering with the Allen Jackson Ministries. And today I want to point you to their podcast. It's called Culture and Christianity, the Alan Jackson podcast. What makes it unique is Pastor Allen's biblical perspective. He takes the truth from the Bible and applies it to issues that we're facing today.

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Colorado ER visits for cannabis-induced psychosis tripled right after legalization. And by the way, there's another study in addition to the one that Blake sent me of a average drop of eight IQ points by the Dundden study in PNAS 2012. Now, let's talk about the youth side of it. This is a very important thing because you might say, but Charlie, if we legalize it, it's all just going to be parents that have to just parent their kids. Who are you to say that if an adult wants to just be able to get high, they should not be able to get high. That sounds good that is an oversimplification of the society we are living in. Firstly, in legalized states, the perception of marijuana's harm among teenagers fell by over 20% in 10 years from the monitoring the future survey, making early initiation more likely.

How about traffic deaths? After Colorado legalized marijuana-related traffic fatalities rose 151% between 2013. in 2020. Do you know that we have more DUIs for marijuana than for alcohol right now in this country? Let me repeat that. We have more DUIs of people driving under the influence of weed than driving under the influence of alcohol. Usually when you think of a DUI, you just think they had too many beers at the bar. Not anymore. We now have driving under the influence that has surpassed the amount of driving under the influence of alcohol. Not to mention, of course, the skyrocketing potency. 1916. 70s marijuana, as I mentioned, average 2 to 4% of THC, now concentrates are 90% of THC. So some of the people that are older say, but I smoked weed back then. You're talking about something that had 2 to 4% of THC and now 90% of THC. It's a different drug than used to exist. And of course, urban decay. Denver police logged three times more public health consumption citations post-legalization. San Francisco struggles with cannabis.

litter and open air use driving away tourists nobody wants to be around open drug use people flee they will go into debt to buy homes where they do not have to be around that heavy weed users are 60% more likely to miss work 75% more likely to show poor job performance according to the journal of occupational and environmental medicines let me put pause if we want to defeat the chinese is more drug use better or worse if we want to go to mars if we want to build great things if we want to start new companies if more employees are using weed does that make us stronger or weaker when you normalize a vice there are exponential and unpredictable consequences and an important flip side to this people always say that we might as well tax it because prohibition doesn't

work completely false. When you ban something, people use it less. And I actually am going to go through the four big lies of the marijuana industry that I have heard over the last decade. And we can now test using the scientific method all four of those major contentions. One, two, three, four. Because the marijuana industry made very, very convincing proclamations when I was just getting involved in politics. But another component of all of this, which cannot be lost, is that when marijuana is legalized, you invite corporate actors that are very, very good at making things addictive. And what I was talking about previously is quality of life. Quality of life is a very important component that is lost. Does widespread weed consumption and

the proliferation of weed, improve the quality of life in America, or make it worse? I want your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com. I'm going to get a ton of angry messages, especially from younger people, but that's what makes our program different. We stand on truth. We have strong opinions. We will support them with data as I have, regardless of the backlash that we get. So if you're supportive, email me freedom at charliekirk.com. If you're not supportive, you can email me freedom at charliekirk.com. And again, the operative question, the most important question, will more people using weed make America a stronger, better, happier, more joyful country 50 years from now or less so? Some people say it will make it that

way. I completely disagree. I think the data is totally different. But now let's play a little offense against the marijuana industry. The marijuana industry needs to be held accountable because they tell us things that end up not being true. And they do so without any accountability whatsoever. The marijuana industry made four major arguments. They made four major arguments and they're very compelling. The first of which was this, that if you legalize marijuana, that there will be a decrease in crime, especially homelessness, degeneracy, because when you legalize it, you can make it proper and that you can make it more acceptable. The opposite has actually happened. When we have legalized marijuana, we have not seen decreases in crime. We've seen more homelessness,

more degeneracy, more heavy drug use, which I'll get to in a second. Is Denver safer because they legalized marijuana? Is Seattle safer? Is Portland safer? Is San Francisco safer? Is Los Angeles safer? Of course not. So that contention needs to be put under heavy examination. Now, they might say, well, there's not a one-to-one correlation. I think we need to look at cities, even more so than states. And Denver really was the petri dish. Seattle was really the petri dish. The second of which is probably the most important of all this.

And I want to spend the most amount of time on this one. We were told growing up that if you legalize marijuana, the amount of kids that use marijuana will go down. I think we can all agree here in the audience, even if you are pro-legalization and pro-ly classification, we do not want minors to be able to smoke weed, to be able to do edibles. That is bad.

this was just an insultingly dumb lie and so many people bought it and honestly i almost bought it for a while oh yeah you know if you kind of make it legal then they'll have to show their id to go to a place and but when things are legal they do it more when things are for sale all over the place people use it more and one of the best arguments and blake introduced this argument this morning that i think is rock solid when it was grown underground and you had to buy it secretly from some dealer in a parking lot. But with full legalization, things have become different. Think about what our market for food and beverages is like. Well, corporate America, they have the best experts, the best scientists, and the best marketing forces. They're very good at marketing products

and making them as peeling as possible. It's not an art. It's a science. And that science has made America really, really fat. Now, look and imagine unleashing all. All that corporate power where all they care about is making money on promoting marijuana. Imagine the experts at Coca-Cola, Nabisco, McDonald's, having free reign to make the most potent and addictive marijuana they possibly can. Imagine Costco selling a family pack of weed for just $99. It'd be disastrous. So imagine the geniuses that are able to addict you to order another Big Mac, that are able to addict you to keep on drinking Diet Coke, that are able to addict you to order another super-size-me meal. McDonald's to now all of a sudden have those geniuses, those marketing professionals have the

full machinery behind the marijuana industry. Boy. And youth usage has not gone down. Youth usage has gone up. We have more young people that are doing marijuana that are smoking marijuana that are smoking weed than it was 10 years ago. The third contention, which is also just a lie. We were told that, hey, and this was the one that really the marijuana industry needs to be held accountable for. We were told that if you legalize weed, if you legalize cannabis, the cartels will be weakened. Do you remember this? We were told that, hey, if you legalize marijuana, the cartels are going to have nothing to do. The cartels are going to disintegrate. It'll make them go out of business no different than the bootleggers that went out of business when we got rid of prohibition.

Another insulting lie. The cartels are stronger than ever because now they have graduated towards the drugs that marijuana is a gateway drug towards. And let me say this, marijuana is absolutely a gateway drug, especially the type of marijuana that is laced with THC, the edibles, the type of psychedelic mergers that are done sometimes with cannabis. Marijuana was a gateway drug, not always to hard drugs, but to a life of slow cognitive decline, low IQ behavior, lower social standards and an aberent, abherent culture of shamelessness. That's from AJAC on X. And finally, and this is the most critical thing, they said that, well, if you legalize marijuana,

that people are going to not revere it as much because when something's illegal, there is an allure to it. But when you legalize it, people kind of shrugged their shoulders and they're not going to be drawn to it. My goodness, that was a catastrophic lie. So now we look at the picture across the country, and we have test cases. Are young people doing better because of it? Are young people stronger?

Are they smarter? Of course not. And look, parents also need to step up. I don't want to just throw this all in the government. Remember that many parents who smoked pot in college so they may be too laid back on this issue because they think it was a marijuana from the 1970s and 1980s. Parents who need to step up and educate yourself, read the documents, read the science. And now finally to the societal component, which is probably the hardest argument to make.

But if you wanted China to win, if you wanted another power to become the geopolitical dominate, the dominator, the dominating force across the world, you would medicate the masses while they stumble aimlessly through life, owning nothing, loving nothing, with no purpose, but simply a mirage of the masses. smoke and a temporary high from THC. We should always be asking the macro question in alignment with the micro question. What kind of country do we want to be? What makes us more likely to remain a superpower? What makes us more likely to remain prosperous and happy? Now, I'm going to get a ton of emails from people angry. Charlie Marijuana help me with this condition and that condition. medically I'll accept all of your arguments I can't comment on that but that's a small portion of people that might have PTSD or they might have broken a leg and all that fine that's not at all what we're talking about here we are talking about the mass recreational undercurrent here

now some people might be talking about but charlie what about alcohol what about alcohol well firstly in some ways you can make an argument alcohol is not as great as you might think people think alcohol is awesome. I don't drink. The president doesn't drink. Tucker Carlson doesn't drink. Drinking is not great for you either. So to elevate alcohol as some sort of, well, we need to make weed like alcohol, no, alcohol is responsible for a ton of domestic abuse problems. A lot of DUIs, but not a majority, as I mentioned. Alcohol has, white-spired alcohol use in this country is not made America better. You can make an argument that alcohol at least has some social lubricant side of it where marijuana is more of an isolation drug that's an okay argument but i would

just make the more important contention alcohol alcohol is currently legal marijuana is currently not legal drinking isn't great but also it's better to have just one mainstream acceptable drug than 20 and alcohol is legitimately a poison and information alcohol getting out has caused usage by the way to drop off a cliff gen z is no longer drinking alcohol and they're not even resorts to weed. And good for you, Gen Z, you will be happier, you'll be stronger, you'll be more loyal to your spouses, more likely to have children, you'll be thinner, you'll be skinnier. Simultaneous alcohol and marijuana use is a huge driver of impaired driving cases now. And by the way, with Gen Z, alcohol use is down 64% of the population of just 54% in the last

decade. That's from Gallup. In a second, I have to welcome Jack Gibbs to this program. And I want to just close my argument here, which is we have the test case. We can see it. Youth usage is up. It's stronger than ever before. Psychosis, depression, anxiety. The data on marijuana use is not good. But what kind of country do we want? What national project are we aiming towards? I will reiterate time. and time again. I want a sober country. I want a country that doesn't need to medicate themselves, one of purpose, one of drive, one of meaning, one of divine connection, not one where you're kind of just sluggish, kind of sitting around, slothful, blaming other people for your problems. Now, marijuana can't be blamed for all of it, but it won't help. This century will be defined, as either a Chinese century or an American century. That is an indisputable fact. What is China doing? No drug use. They don't want that. They see what it does to the West. So if China,

which is the rising superpower, says we don't want to bring it here because we've seen what it has done to the West, we probably shouldn't do more of it. Instead, we should reject the siren song of more drugs. Commit ourselves to things that matter, in my opinion, classification would be a mistake. If you guys have private student loan debt, this is the best way out. They are phenomenal supporters of our Student Action Summit, America Fest, our campus tours. Many clients are not able to make the minimum monthly payment on their private student loans when they first contact Y-ReFi. If you go to Y-ReFi.com, you can read testimonies from other people who have been where you are and how they've successfully escaped.

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has it improved the quality of life in California, the more marijuana people has consumed? Yeah, Charlie, you're asking that question because you know the answer. The answer is absolutely the opposite. As you well know, you've been to our church many times. It is a church heavily populated by law enforcement personnel. They'll tell you straight up that the marijuana use

and the freedom of marijuana in California has only led to the continued decline of California. Listen, I just got in from Peru the other day, stepped out of Bradley Terminal. I'm not kidding, Charlie. The first stench I smelled was an area off to the right-hand side of the terminal where it's an open smoking area and people were smoking pot at Bradley Terminal. That's your welcome back to the United States. It is a glazed, doped society and you can smell it on the freeways. You can smell it in all kinds of ways and places, but the crime level is connected. People will deny that, but law enforcement will tell you,

know it's directly connected because wherever it's being used charlie there is this um there's this decay of uh of zeal there is this apathetic atmosphere that uh those who use traffic in and that's the last thing we need in this nation we need people sharper we need people more creative and we need people who actually can reason and logic uh just to stay alive in our on our california freeway for one day. I completely agree with that. And Pastor Hibbs, you are a, your great friend and a mentor of mine, and thank you for that. You gave a great speech last week at our Pastor Summit. You are a, you are a fighter for California, and that is noble, and that is awesome. Talk about AB 495, a bill that you are warning could legalize child trafficking. I mean, that is, those are,

those are fighting words, Pastor Hibbs. I trust your contention. Educate us. We have a lot of time here. please. What is this all about? Charlie, I have it in front of me. And the preamble to this is I never thought in my lifetime that I would stand before our congregation of over 10,000 adults and say, if this bill passes, you need to get your kid out of public school and into private school or homeschool or you need to leave the state of California. That was not hyperbole. that was not that was not any form of a joke dead serious ab4.95. It's it's Charlie and it's actually an anti-Trump anti-ice a bit of legislation written by assembly members Celeste Rodriguez and it is it is this that if the bill passes that is if Gavin Newsom signs it into law next week

that you can go to the state website in your home you can download an affidavit you can check the box that says, did you attempt to reach out to the parents regarding the possession of the child? Check the box, yes or no? If the person who downloaded this affidavit checks the box, yes, they sign their name, they go down to the local school where this child is, your child, my child, my grandkids, and they can bring the school board has to relinquish the child's possession into the hands of the requester because here's the bill because it is a bill of compassion it is to shield children against ice taking their parents during the school day without the child now having a place to go home to an occupied home with mom and dad and so it's a it's a

compassion bill charlie it is going to protect the child here's how it protects the child Any Joe who can download the form without a background check without having to produce license, driver's license, passport number, social security number, those things are suggested, not required. Get a load of this, Charlie. When the individual receives possession of your child and the school cannot refuse them, the school is also not obligated to tell the parents when the end of the school day comes, who took the child? where the child is at. There's no accountability whatsoever because it is all geared to hide the child from investigation that could possibly lead the child to ICE agents or the like because it's an assumption that their parents are illegal. Here's the thing. Charlie, we have had, I'm not going to mention their names, but you know, you and I share some of the great

legal minds in America that help us all out at all times. They've studied the bill. They told us, listen to this. They said, Jack, normally the devil is in the details. This is the most sick legislation ever proposed in California. That's saying a lot because there are no details. It is so vague and so open that it can be interpreted in any way. And in fact, I had one great legal mind in America tell me this week. It's so dangerous, Charlie, that it may not only be assigned to public schools. It could be something a daycare center. where somebody comes in, non-relative, non-related, individual to snatch your child out of school, and you won't find out about it till the end of the day. That's what we're looking at.

This is an invitation to sexual predators. 100%. This is open season on these California children. And so you are leading a protest in Sacramento. Tell us time, place, when call to action. I want our whole audience in California to rally behind you, Jack. So tell us, you are leading the charge. Jack, please tell us.

I'm calling for a minimum of 5,000 people, so don't assume somebody else is going to show up. You show up, everybody. It's August 19th. That's a Tuesday next week at the state capital. And if you show up at about 11 o'clock, that would be really good. We'll get things started. And here's the reason why we want your body there. We want you to just stand there with this.

Because the last time we did this, Charlie, several years ago, a similar bill, not as bad, made it through. And Newsom, so to speak, looked out of his window and saw it. 3,000 people standing there, and he backed off. He is a true politician. He's got his eye set on the presidency in 2028, and if we show up in mass, he's not going to want to own this bill. He will have the power to veto it and shut it down. And so I am pleading with people, drive, fly, take a bus, take a train, get there by whatever means possible. We will stand respectfully, and we've got a series of great, great attorneys and speakers that are going to address the crowd. But join us in making California history.

Let's stop evil. This is doing righteousness, actually. When we preach the gospel, that's great. But listen, when we make disciples, we are encouraging people to stand for righteousness. So, Charlie, I want to thank you for giving us a voice right now to invite people, August 19th, come on out at the steps of California, Capitol in Sacramento. And so I want to dive deeper into the elements here. It is August 19th. I'm writing it down.

I'm going to text all my pastor friends to. in the Sacramento area. That's a no-brainer, right? By the way, I'm also going to text Mr. Gavin Newsom. I'm going to say, listen, we're watching. We are watching. We are going to remember this. And Gavin, you want to keep on being a podcast host or all this. We are going to remember how you act, the leadership you have. You know, you can go gallivan around the country, but this dog does not hunt in any of the battleground states that you allegedly want to win when you're running for the presidency in 2028. And so basically, so I just want to make sure I understand this, Jack, because you said it so perfectly,

but it's hard to internalize. Any stranger can take a kid out of school under the guise of protecting kids from an ice raid. Non-related individual. Non-related individual. So think about that for a moment. It's sick.

So think about Charlie, think about your kids. It could be that you've got a neighbor who can't stand you because you're Charlie Kirk. They know your work hours. They know that your child goes to XYZ school. They could go to that. school and say, here's the affidavit. I've signed it. I checked the box that says I tried to reach the parents, which is a lie. And I am now requesting, based on this affidavit, the possession of

Susie Kew. The school cannot hold that back because the affidavit serves as an actual recognized court document where the individual is then awarded the position of your child, all in the name of saving the child from the parental situation that ICE has generated, by the bad orange man. It's just, again, it's so incredible. Let's go to Cut 424. This is Nicole Pearson from FACs, Law, Truth, and Justice. She is warning about the bill.

And so you might say, oh, this is just Jack Gibbs being hyperbolic. First of all, Jack is never hyperbolic. But you can't just dismiss this. Play Cut 424 here. It is like the perfect storm. It helps traffickers and groomers and pedophiles and rapists and people who want to abuse children and take advantage of children, it helps remove them from their homes and then erase any trace of that child

so that you cannot find your child and protect your child. That is the reality of California. That is why California is one of the worst states. That coupled with the fact that it's a sanctuary state, no child in this country is safe with the laws that are currently in place in California and that they want to implement right now in California this legislative session. For every bad actor to take children and do whatever they're, want with zero legal

recourse. There's not, there is zero protection, and it's not for children of undocumented immigrants. It's for every child who lives in the state and who's brought to the state. She's 100 percent accurate. In fact, she will be one of our speakers on the Capitol steps. Charlie, so much so

she didn't touch on this. That affidavit grants that individual also medical rights, medical care authorization of the child as well. I mean, this is absolutely some stranger giving, having been given the right of the state of California to basically instantly snap your fingers become the authority over this child's life. I got to tell

you, Charlie, you know this. If we don't stop this in California, it's going to be in Washington and Oregon in about three months. 100%. Look, again, they want to be able to kidnap your children. There is no other reading of the bill. And repeat, August 19th, this coming Tuesday, 11 a.m., the California Capitol, just stand there. That's all we need. We need you just to yell and stand. America's small businesses rely on TikTok to succeed. We go viral on TikTok reaching billions of young people every year. It's one of the reasons why we were able to win the youth vote.

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Legalizing kidnapping in the state of California. Play cut 429. I ride today to present 8495, the Family Preparedness Plan Act, a comprehensive and compassionate measure designed to prevent unnecessary family separation in our state. We know that due to current federal immigration enforcement actions, many families, are living in fear. Parents are afraid that they may not be able to make it to pick up their children from school or child care. Children worry that one day their family might simply be gone. No child should have to live with that uncertainty. It is critical that our communities have the

information and tools to ensure our children are cared for by a trusted adult until they can be reunited with their families. I mean, if you were trying to do the bidding for a kidnapping arm of the cartels, this is the bill that you would write. Charlie, exactly 100%. And by the way, in perfect California legislative terms, she lies perfectly well. It sounds so compassion. It's the family preparedness bill. It sounds like I should buy like something for an earthquake, right? It's exactly the opposite. It is exactly what you just said. This is an open door license for someone to invade the child's safe space in school and to confiscate them seriously. By the way, there is already in the state of the state of

of California law, a Board of Education law, a section that already protects a child in such situations. There's no need for this law. It's absolutely redundant because we've got something to protect a child already in place. But this, Charlie, takes it and puts it into the hands of a stranger. And this woman is the author, and we're going to see to it that her political career will be plagued from this time on. We're going to have her own that bill. And if Newsome signs it, he's going to own it all the way to his presidential campaign to lead to his defeat. There's a lot going on

with the Israel, Gaza situation. How should we as Christians in your view, view this, think about it? Pastor Jack? Yeah, the best thing, boy, I tell you what, Charlie, thank you for asking. I wish I could get you guys to just jump into my backpack and go with me to Israel

and to Gaza. To show you what's actually going on, you'd be quite impressed. Here's the deal. Frankly, you can't watch U.S. or European media. Try to get media out of Lebanon via either SAT 7 or MTV, that's Middle East TV, or some of the Israeli channels for this reason. You will see the IDF dropping food into Gaza. You will see medical care being given by the IDF to those that are being ravaged in Gaza. But you need to understand something that we're following the narrative of Hamas and

Hezbollah that are saying Israel and the IDF are starving these poor people. people and refusing medical care and treatment. Friends, I have to tell you, it's exactly the opposite. We have been watching, and I have wonderful contacts that's showing me video from the locations where they'll provide food and water, Charlie, and Hamas will come in and take it from the Gazans. And people need to know this. Please, please be wise, be discerning regarding the news that you ingest, and it's bigger

than a 15-second clip. I assure you, the world is watching Israel with a critical spirit, and I get that, that's okay. But the result is, the actions are, you are going to be surprised because Israel is actually bringing aid while at the same time trying to get the bad guys that are creating this very, very ugly and hostile environment.

Bottom line, Charlie, there's a lot of Gazans. They don't want to be controlled anymore by Hamas. But the poor things don't have the voice to say we want out of it. of this and it's a tragic situation but i do hope and pray that it gets it gets done it gets cleaned up shortly because quicker more lives are going to be spared and i i agree and jack saying poor things is right there are a lot of eight nine and ten year olds that are being basically held hostage by hamas and they're made an image of god and we shouldn't forget them and every human being is

pastor jack hibbs we're out of time from calvary chapel chino hills you love you charlie You're the greatest. Thank you, Jack, so much. Thank you, brother. Thanks so much for listening. Everybody. email us, as always, freedom at charleykirk.com. Thanks so much for listening, and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.