The Charlie Kirk Show - Islam Against America: My Speech at the Pastors Summit
Episode Date: August 24, 2025Islam is rising across the lands of the formerly Christian West. Is Islam really just another faith among many? Is it equally compatible with Western civilization? Charlie argues the answers are "No" ...and "No." Islam is a unique threat to the West and will overrun it if not taken seriously. It's a warning that all Christians raised in the fog of decades of pro-diversity propaganda. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hey, everybody, Stan the Charlie Kirk Show, my speech at the pastor's summit.
It's a little fiery.
We talk about Islam and more.
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Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
I want to thank Charlie.
He's an incredible guy.
His spirit, his love of this country.
He's done an amazing job.
Building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives,
and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
That's why we are here.
Thank you, everybody.
Please take a seat.
Thank you.
what a wonderful turnout this is. This is amazing. Thank you. And I've been all over the country the last couple of days and it is special to be able to end the week here with the most important thing, which is to strengthen the church, to make sure the church is able and equipped for this moment. And I just want to first praise the TPA USA Faith staff that have been working so hard on this event.
If you see them, thank them, they've worked so hard on all the little meticulous details.
I also want to thank so many of the supporters that made this possible.
I don't know if I'm allowed to say your name on stage, so I'll just say thank you for those who donated to make this possible.
So very generous and very remarkable.
So I want to share a couple, I want to share two things.
One is a really fun kind of cultural victory, and then one of a third.
threat that I'm afraid the church is not talking about enough, and then we'll do some question and
answer. So as you know, I go to college campuses so you guys don't have to. I've been doing it
for the last 13 years, go and set up a card table, come to the front of the line, ask a question,
and we kind of have a nice back and forth. And they've gone somewhat viral, as you know.
We are unapologetically Christian. We believe Christ is Lord. Christ is king. We believe in the
inerrancy of Scripture. We stand against the abortion industry, against the transgender
nonsense against the open border nonsense, and we do so on a college climate where that does not
always win you friends in favor. But I think that's been kind of one of the kind of magic elements
of why we've been able to see this be so successful. And so over the last couple of years,
we've been putting these videos up on social media, and billions and billions of people
have watched these videos. And I bet some of you might have seen the videos once or twice or your
kids or your grandkids. And it's really amazing because you never know the impact that you're
making, right? And praise the Lord, President Trump won back in November. God granted grace on this
nation and bought us some time. And one of the reasons why President Trump was able to win is younger
voters moved almost 10 points to the right. In fact, young men are the most conservative generation
that we've seen in 50 years. And Gen Z is the most Christian generation that we have seen in the last
50 years. That's more important than conservative. In fact, church attendance is finally going a little
up. The top music on Apple Music is predominantly Christian music. Young people are going back to the
faith. They are looking up. They're not just looking at their screen. This is positive, wonderful
developments that we are seeing. But you have to always kind of think, like, okay, so we know that
these cultural movements are happening, but does the other side see us? You know, are we kind of
making a dent or making an impact? And so, you know, I try to avoid all the degenerative, degenerate
out there but apparently last week someone sent me a clip there's hey charlie you're going to be
profiled on south park and so you're not familiar about south park it's uh not exactly biblical um
however god works in mysterious ways i'm about to show you something how uh only god can make
south park biblical right so we do these campus events we do these debates we do this back and
forth and billions of views later, all of a sudden, kind of the thing where we go to college
campuses and we have that back and forth, and, you know, we're bringing people closer to Jesus
and we're bringing them away from leftism and away from Marxism and towards conservative
values has obviously made a difference. And so last night they aired this entire episode
with the obvious intent to try to make fun of us and to mock us. And honestly, I take it in
good kind of step. It's a sign that what we're doing is working.
and that it has impact and real cultural weight, right?
Not just, not that we're just talking to the converted,
but we are going out and being salt and light in a broken culture.
And so that's the way I view it.
But not in any of my wildest imaginations could I have imagined,
that we would get South Park to be able to quote a Bible verse,
word for word, in defense of the unborn.
I'm telling you, this is Genesis 50-20, everybody, right?
But the enemy meant for evil, God will use for good.
And so, just enjoy, I think it's like a 14-second clip.
By the way, for those of you that watch a lot of our videos,
you'll notice the little detail of the water bottle sip in between.
You notice that's kind of a thing that got to stay hydrated on these campuses.
And I've got to tell the South Park creators, they crushed the hair.
I got to tell you, they got it right.
So enjoy this little snippet here
We'll watch this together
Oh my God, what makes you think you have the right
To say what I do with my body?
Let me ask you something
If a pregnant woman is killed and the baby dies too
Why is the killer charged with a double homicide?
Well, because people have different beliefs
It's not about belief, it's about truth
Science confirms life begins at concept
And there's another one where he
This character who apparently was playing me or whatever
quotes Jeremiah 1-5, I knew before you were in the womb.
And so it goes to show just the power and the penetration and the virality of what we've been able to do.
And I want that just to be a sign everybody that sometimes you can be doing this very difficult work
when you can be in outnumbered, where you can be in the ideological or worldview minority,
and you can make a phenomenal difference.
And really the lesson that I take from that is, you know, they were trying to make fun of us.
And again, in some essence, though,
what you listen carefully,
which is that it doesn't matter about your feelings,
that matters about truth.
And all of you as pastors,
you are in the truth business.
You're not in their truth business.
You are in the truth business.
And when you are appealing to a higher standard
above your own feelings, your own directive,
that's when you as pastors know you are doing your job
and you are doing it well.
And so I just want to say thank you
to the creators of South Park, for witnessing to an entire generation and making the culture
understand the arguments of pro-life and scripture and all that fun stuff.
And so I want to now transition.
I want to praise a lot of you in this audience that are, first of all, here for the first time
or here at a TPA USA faith event.
We started this project a couple years ago.
Lucas Miles is doing a phenomenal job running it.
Rob McCoy has been such a great mentor of mine.
And I have so many friends in the audience that I can shout out.
and Jack Hibbs has just been incredible, and Frank Turek, and so many people.
And we started this project with a mission statement that still remains true to this day,
but we're one of the few Christian ministries that can say we've actually made progress
since we've started in the last couple of years, which is we wanted to kick wokeism out of the American church.
Now, we're not there yet.
Now, what is wokeism?
At its core, of course, it represents itself as diversity, equity, inclusion,
critical race theory, oppression, oppression, Olympics, caring about the race,
of your congregants. All that stuff has no place. But at its core, where it goes, it's a demonic
unclean spirit that will go after the inerrancy of Scripture, the Lordship of Jesus Christ,
the truth of the resurrection, and Christianity at its core. It is a deconstructionist virus that
has found itself in too many seminaries, too many youth pastor areas, and then at too many parts
of our churches. We must stand as guardians, watchmen or watch women, but watchmen on the wall
against this infiltration of the American Church
to try to destabilize our youth first and our elders second
to try to question what God has told us through Scripture.
And wokeism does that better than anything else.
Wokeism is an analytical tool
that makes you question the truth of the scriptures.
And I'll be honest, we're making progress in this way.
There's many pastors that are here today
that you would not have been ever caught at TPSA event four years ago.
I'm going to say, I'm glad you're here.
this is where you should be
and thank you for being here
and it's not a matter of like hey
by the way I find when we do these events at times
there's a little bit of like a kind of a little bit of a contest
oh I opened my church in June of 2020
well I opened it in August
and you know it's kind of like okay
we're glad you're here
that chapter happened and let's just all agree
we're never locking down the church again
it's never going to happen okay
and so
I believe that God used the
evil of the lockdowns and the terrible aspects of the virus as a way to wake up so many of you
of the cultural influences that made themselves into the church. Now, some people say,
Charlie, I don't like how TPUSA faith is trying to get politics into the church. Our contention
actually is we want to kick Marxist politics out of the church, and it's not political, it's
biblical. You see, what we are doing is a defensive strategy against an offensive infiltration that
has been occurring over the last 50 years and do you see the kind of shaming they're like oh charlie you're
doing this christian nationalist thing oh timeout what we're doing actually is first shedding ourselves
of a framework of a dialectical tool that leads you in the direction of a pastor on sunday saying well
maybe the bible is just a series of stories and you don't need the old testament you see deconstructionism
leads you to that moment and eventually that pastor will say all faiths
lead you to heaven. There's many ways to eternity. Because once you start questioning the
inerrancy of so too many seminaries begin down that road. Because everything is processed through
a worldview. This is what I tell our kids every single day on college campuses. You might think
you do not bring a worldview to the table. But everybody brings a processing matrix of how you
input information and what you process it through. We believe scripture and God's word is how we process
the information that we are consuming.
We then hold it to God's perfect and pleasing will.
All of it. Now, somebody else,
if all of a sudden you have a deconstruction as analytical tool,
they're going to be like, well, maybe I should,
I'm going to hold that. Instead of processing through scripture,
I'll process it through the New York Times.
Or process it through this, like, motivational speaker,
or process it through some Facebook post.
And that is a demonic tool to try to undermine
the basis of the American church.
But I think we're making progress.
I really do.
And we're seeing more and more churches
start to distance themselves
from that kind of deviation
and that detour. So many pastors
that marched in BLM parades
and locked down and did mask
mandates. Some of them have
repented and some of them have quietly repented.
And honestly, we should be
open arms to say, welcome back.
You made an error. We
want you back in alignment with God's word.
There's no shame in that.
We make mistakes.
There's no like, hey, I'm a better pastor than you because I didn't do that, or I'm a better
church than you.
We all fall short of the glory of God, and we all have missteps.
And those that seek reconciliation and repentance and come back to God's perfect and pleasing
will, we should accept them back no different than the prodigal son.
And so I feel as if we're making progress on that.
And I think we've had a lot of speakers talk about that these last day and a half.
however I'm afraid that we as the American church and this room can change that
because I think there's another politically incorrect thing around the hill you see that's what
I try to do I try to find the thing you're not yet allowed to talk about and then once you
guys are allowed to talk about I'm like okay you guys handle that I'm gonna go find the next threat
to the church and the next threat to Christendom that's where I feel my role because I can I say
stuff that you're thinking that you can't say I say it loudly and that's kind of my whole you know
one of my schicks. And it is in front of us. And it is, we have wokeism on one side. But on the other
side, there is a, there is a bimodal axis that is working in concert to suffocate Christendom.
Now, Western civilization is Christendom. This is our project. We as Christians founded the West.
Now, we love so many of the other people that may be of different faiths, but this is a uniquely
Christian project, 55 out of 56 of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, were Bible
believing, church attending Christians. Almost every single of the original states at the founding
father era required a declaration of faith in order to serve in government. Almost every single
one of the original colonies had their own theological or denominational allegiance, whether it
be Presbyterian or Quaker or Congregationalist or Maryland would be Catholic. The founding fathers
We're explicitly Christian.
And so in Christendom, we found we almost are afraid to talk about it,
this amazing prosperous civilization that has given us the wealth beyond our wildest imagination
that gives us charity and gives us generosity and gives us protection of individual rights
and gives us all these things that sometimes we take for granted is under attack from yes,
wokeism, but also Islamism.
And now we're going to get to the point where a lot of pastors are afraid.
Now, let me tell you, I'm uniquely positioned because I get death threats from two different types of jihadis,
purple-haired jihadis and actual jihadis.
And if this conversation makes you a little uncomfortable, I'm here to push you and prod you
because you as a pastor need to make sure that your flock is prepared for the infiltration
and the invasion of Christendom, Western civilization, from not just the Marxist angle,
but from the outright Islamist angle that is happening via mass immigration,
infiltration, and non-assimulation practices under Achla and under Islam.
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Charlie. Now let me just first say I think there's there's two categories here. The first category
is Christian pastors that are completely unaware of this. They're kind of just doing their job and
they're like, oh, it doesn't affect me, I really doesn't impact me, and we're not going to
really talk about this, I think that's a mistake.
The second of which are pastors that know the threat, but are afraid to talk about it.
This reminds me of 2020 in some ways.
This reminds me when pastors, we were in rooms like this, we're like, am I really around
to talk about the lockdowns?
Am I really allowed to talk about wokeism?
I don't know.
Maybe we should have a diversity committee at our church.
And we laugh about it now.
However, I'm telling you, in the Year of Our Lord 2025, the equivalent is that right now, there is a red, we talked about Marxism, Green, Islamism, alliance to destroy Christendom and to deprive the American church of our rightful role of being the primary cultural influence of this civilization.
So what are we supposed to do? Well, let me just kind of further terrify you. I could play hundreds of videos like this.
But this is in New York City.
Can we play this video of this?
This is in New York City, right?
Hussein, Hussein, Hussein, Hussein, Hussein, Hussein.
Hussein, Hussein, Hussein, Hussein.
Great, and thousands of people show up.
You guys have seen the videos, you've seen the stuff on college campuses.
How did this first happen?
Well, first of all, we invited this menace into our country.
And this is important.
This did not happen because we had a southern open border.
This did not happen because it was illegal.
This was Christian generosity that was taken advantage of, as it says in Deuteronomy 28,
one of the last things Moses said in his farewell address to the people of Israel is be careful who you allow.
I'm paraphrasing in a nation of Israel because the foreigner can soon become your master.
now a lot of you say but charlie immigration is our strength immigration is wonderful
immigration can be wonderful it is not by default a wonderful thing
no different than nuclear power can be used to power a city or to have hiroshima or nagasaki
but we need to talk very seriously as an american church and we need to be speaking out
unafraid about the theological and the spiritual implications of what's happening here and i'll be
very honest. I have been underwhelmed by the American church taking the role. We're good on the
wokeism thing now. You can write a book against wokeism and still remain a pastor. But to write a book
against Islam, ooh, that's a little bit. Now that's the call, the courage I want to have for you.
Because we are about to enter a moment where the two previous Christian centers of the West
are about to both have Muslim mayors. Don't tell me this is not a big issue. You're about to
have Sadiq Khan in London and Zohran Mamdani in New York City,
largely made possible by our mass open immigration policies.
But here's where a step further, we need to understand.
If any of you have had the opportunity to go to Europe recently,
it is an unrecognizable continent,
and understand how this all works in harmony together.
Step one, secularize the society.
That's the wokeism.
deconstructionism oh christ is not lord he was just kind of like a motivational speaker he was like
tony robbins in the mediterranean right he's a good ideas so all of a sudden people become more
secular so then they become weak they don't have children they don't get married they become fragile
they become infertile and so therefore europe kind of becomes a former shell of itself and they say
well if we want to have economic growth we can bring in a bunch of Muslim
refugees. And as I will articulate through several pieces of teaching in the Quran and in core
Islamic theology, and my friend Andrew Sedra has talked about this at length, that it is
not an accident. This is an architecture. This is not a one-off. This is a strategy to create a world
global caliphate.
And you might say, well, this is kind of like
conspiracy theory.
You know what's the difference between conspiracy
theory and truth?
Wait three years.
Just wait a couple years.
Now, we know that
Europe has largely fallen. So they secularize
and then they invite and you
see this combination. What do we
tell the women of the West to do?
Go have as much sex as possible.
Get on the birth control pill and have a
abortions. So we don't have kids, but we're going to go and port a bunch of people that are going to
have kids. Number one birth name in the top cities in Europe, Muhammad. Not Mitchell, not Mark,
not Montesquieu, Muhammad. And it is a strategy to rep, to take over through the silent means of mass
reproduction. And the church is like, well, we're told that we have to open our arms to the
immigrant and all that. Let me be very, I could do a whole speech on the inerrancy on immigration
teaching in the church. Nowhere in the Gospels does it say you should commit suicide via
mass immigration, period. That is not a teaching in the Bible. Nor does it say you should
invite your future masters who don't believe what you believe and actually don't want you to
keep on having to be able to do it. So in America, we are, we are dancing with this issue. The mayor
of Minneapolis will be a Muslim soon, but you might say, come on, we as Christians, we can
coexist. It's interesting. I love Frank Turk. He's phenomenal. And he says, Charlie, you know
that there's over 1.5 billion Muslims. And only 1% of all Christian missionaries end up going
to Muslim countries. Why is that? Because they're going to have their head chopped off,
that's why. Not exactly tolerant and open. And that goes at the
kicker where I have now
I get a lot of good feedback on this one
but I love it I honestly
I'm not meant for just the easy stuff
I want the tough fights that other people aren't saying
Islam is not compatible
with Western civilization
period
and people say
but Charlie it is radical Islam
now I say this is we all have individual
Muslim friends that we like
and that we pray for in Scottsdale
you know one of the people that has
help me, you know, a primary care doctor previously.
He's a devout Muslim.
He individually is a good person, even by Christian's standard.
I'm not talking about individual.
We're talking about the macro ideology where many of them gather together
and what that metastasizes into.
So I want you to try to filter out any individual interactions
because that is a distraction from what is happening civilizationally.
And so we see in the country not just the,
birth rate, but also three words that I want you guys to know about. And they're very important.
Well, the third one is by far the most controversial. That credits my security team, we're going
have a whole other security threat profile, but they can't kill us all, and I'll meet you
in heaven first if they try. So, which is, by the way, let me be very clear. The fact that we even
have to be afraid of our personal security, of criticizing a worldview of people we invite into our
country, shows that we shouldn't invite those people into our country anymore.
Like, oh, I need personal security because I criticize your religion.
What happens when you criticize Christianity? Let me pray for you.
Let me come to my Bible study. Can I make you a casserole?
Criticize Islam. You've got a machete at 6 a.m. or something. Not everyone, but you and I
all know that there is an intolerance.
Three major things than three words.
Number one, how is it incompatible?
Number one, we as Christians believe in freedom of speech.
We believe that it is our birthright.
Islamists do not believe in freedom of speech, period.
You cannot question Muhammad, you cannot make fun of them,
you cannot question the state.
Number two, they do not believe in freedom of expression or freedom of religion.
And the most important, we as Christians, we want some daylight between the state and religious institutions.
We want a little bit of day.
I think we've had too much daylight, honestly.
But we want some.
Islamists, they believe in the intentional integration of mosque and church.
There is no separation.
You see, there is not this idea that the state is where you go and vote,
and you kind of get your police force, and then you go to the church, and they're separate.
That's a uniquely Protestant idea, by the way, just so we are clear.
It is a Protestant idea that we separate those.
In Islam, they're one in the same.
In Islam, the state is given authority by Allah to spread their messaging and their whatever view that they have of stuff.
So those are three ways that's not compatible.
Three words I want to share with you, and they'll get more important as I go on.
The first of which is Takia, and Andrew Sedrant will know what this means.
Basically means, in Islam, in the verses, you are allowed to lie.
You are allowed to deceive in front of God as long as it advances the aims and goals of Islam.
You are allowed to masquerade a different version of yourself.
And Andrew, am I making this up?
Andrew will, he grew up in Egypt, and he also has the jihadis after him.
And he knows this stuff much better than I do.
Fakia is a foreign concept to those of us as Christians.
Because what is the ultimate value claim of Christianity?
it is truth because our Lord and Savior is truth and truth became flesh at the top of all of it
it is truth in Islam it is not truth truth is not the ultimate Islamic value it's not it's power
it's domination subjugation conquer conquest I'll get to that in a second the second of which
is umah u m m a h which is a global caliphate you see we are called to make disciples of all nations
by winning them over, by converting them with songs, praise, teaching, scripture, prayer, Islam is taking over by force.
There's a reason why it is a religion of the sword to create a global caliphate.
And now the third, which will get me in the most trouble, and that's fine.
But it needs to be said, because everyone's afraid of this.
Islamists will say that Muhammad is the greatest man ever to live.
We should invite that comparison and say it daily and openly and say, okay, you want to talk about
the greatest man ever to live.
Let's just start with what we know about Muhammad.
Muhammad was a depraved genocidal warlord who killed everybody in sight, including women and
children, massacred them.
It's interesting.
Maybe they're taking after the person they believe is the greatest man ever to live.
And now the third word that will get me in a lot of trouble, but you need to know about
because this is what's infecting the West.
It's a disgusting ideology,
which is Aisha.
Anyone know what that is?
What is Aisha?
Aisha was the wife
of Prophet Muhammad.
He married her at age six.
How many did not know that?
Raise your hand.
Look around.
Keep your hands up.
I'm not here to shame you.
This is a room of Christian leaders and pastors,
and you don't know that the number one religion
that's growing in the West, the greatest man ever to live married a girl at age six.
Meanwhile, on the other side, we believe the greatest man ever to live.
Christ, our Lord said, it's better for you to have a millstone hung around your neck than to lay a hand on any of these children.
Interesting comparison here, right?
Oh, it gets more interesting.
Let me read from, quote, the prophet married me when I was six years old and then consummated.
the marriage with me when I was nine years old.
Mind you, they're not saying that like he had good ideas or he should reference the greatest
man ever to live, the ideal that was given all this divine revelation.
Continues, Aisha, Allah be pleased with her, right.
Allah's apostle married me when I was six years old and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine.
These hadiths are considered authentic in Sunni Islam.
and appeared in both Bekari and Muslim,
the two most authoritative collections.
So, this is a,
you're looking at this from a worldview standpoint.
Like, wait a second.
So on our side, we have,
one side you have a conquer, a genocidal maniac,
engaging in the flesh,
nothing new like every other conquer
from Alexander the Great to Genghis Khan.
Okay, but Christ our Lord said,
Blessed are the peacemakers.
He turned the other cheek.
He accepted the punishment
and defeated the grave
and was raised on the third day,
defended children,
said it'd be better for you
have eternal punishment if you dare
put a hand out. It's not even close. And look at the
fruit of both of these worldviews.
What is the fruit of this worldview?
Conquest,
October 7th,
massacre, subjugation,
tyranny, totalitarianism,
the fruit of this is the greatest nation ever
to exist in the history of the world.
Christendom.
So, I will close with this, then we'll do some questions.
Pastors, Christian leaders, I have a good track record with this.
When I speak boldly about something that's not yet in the news,
it's because I might see something as a pattern recognition.
We talked about wokeism before it was cool back in 2017, 2018, 2019.
Remember when I was talking about college campuses?
I said it was a scam, and I think we all kind of agree, like, oh, yeah, I guess
that might have been right about that.
We have an opportunity, though.
We have an opportunity to say no more.
We have an opportunity, honestly, to bring some of these Muslims to Jesus, which is what our wish should be.
We should try to evangelize the Muslim population in this country and to bring them to Christ.
But most importantly, we as the church should never sit idly by and roll over and allow our birthright,
brought to you by the courage of Christians of generations past,
to be desecrated by mass immigration of a worldview that wishes to slit the throat.
of many of us in this room. Thank you guys, and let's do some questions. Thank you.
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Yes, we'll do a couple and then I don't want to keep you guys too late. Anyone? Yeah.
I'm just wondering what do you think makes you tick that you want to be out in front of
everyone else with these hard issues? I don't know. I don't get. I don't get. I don't
debt people that don't. Like, I don't, this is why I'm drawn to President Trump despite all of his
vices and all of his shortcomings. I don't, I don't think very highly of cowards. And it's just
the way I'm wired. I actually feel called to the conflict of good conflict and to the
tension. And again, I'm not walking around trying to find issues where they don't exist, right,
guys. I would much rather live and kind of be a college football coach or a baseball manager
of the Chicago Cubs or something, right? But my friend Andrew Sedra and I, we were talking about this at
the pastor's conference in Georgia. Before Mom Donnie, I even knew who he was. And we were talking
about this. And again, I was further motivated to speak out on this. When I went to Europe,
when I went to London, and has anyone known what I'm talking about if you've gone to Europe? It's so
sad, it's so dark, and I would go to Piccadilly Square, and every single shop is in Arabic,
and the women are in the full garb, and then what's even worse, and this is what really drove
me nuts, the unoffendability of that population where the native Christian Brits,
like Charlie, you can't say this here, you see, we Americans, we don't really play by that
whole ballgame. So, and I got a ticket out of Heathrow in like 36 hours. So, yes, I'm going
to say, and I said all the things, but they have made a deal with a treacherous ideology.
And again, I want to be very clear. I'm not indicting the moral character of every single
Muslim. That's not what I said here at all. And you guys will agree. We are talking about a
worldview, a parasitic worldview, that is ascending, growing,
and multiplying. And is it going to be the secular world that's going to stop it? No. Is it going
to be the secular world? No. It has to be the church. The church needs to speak out boldly
and repeatedly on this. Yes. Yes, sir. Charlie, I follow you on Marty Elliott from
Elit from El Centro, California. Follow on Instagram, as well as our Christian radio station,
we just got you on for an hour a week. That's really cool. Thank you. I'm a full. I'm a
freshman city councilman. My wife is a freshman, a high school board member. We just got
elected just this last year. So we got a big problem in California. But we have, you know,
elections are coming, just a year away. So we have three really good conservative. We got
Cheyenne. We have Chad Bianco. We got Steve Hilton. I feel like that we need a
Christian forum, long before the primaries, to get behind one guy instead of fighting each other,
spending all their money, and go with one guy.
Could you, I mean, do you agree with that?
Could you help us?
Could you make that happen?
Honestly, I know that you're concerned about California.
If anybody has never seen Charlie with Governor Newsom, you need to watch that.
That's very sweet.
That is incredible.
Thank you.
I'm only laughing because I just came from two states.
I came from Maine and New York, and they both basically had the same question.
Hey, Charlie, can you do an event and save New York? Can you save Maine?
I'm happy to, look, I love all those guys running.
I personally have a great friendship with Steve Hilton.
I endorsed him right when he came out of the race.
I don't want to get in a fight with anyone here.
That's not why I'm here, guys.
Literally, this is, like, low on my priority list, trying to stop the suffocation of the West via the East, right?
So, look, I think some people in this room could definitely step up and do a forum,
this, happy to help. And then whoever the nominee is, I will help with every possible
piece of resources, energy I can to get them elected as governor of California.
Thank you. Thank you. Yes.
I want to thank you so very much for bringing to the attention you saw from the hands
that we as pastors have no idea about the seriousness of the Islam problem.
But just as much as we are ignorant, we also have nowhere to, no idea where to turn
to find out what we need to know to be able to broadly proclaim
the truth and stand up to questions without looking to be foolish. What do you recommend that we
read or a website that we can go to so that we can become better informed to stand for God? So two
things. Andrew, stand up. Andrew, you have the Cedra. Just as a resource, you should all just,
Andrew, you're going to have a busy night. Give it up for Andrew Cedra. Just go ask him questions.
And Andrew, here's the power of Andrew. He's made me more courageous on the topic. And that's
how truth tellers are able to kind of self-reinforced.
nearly had his head cut off in Egypt, and now in Australia on the same sort of thing.
So that's number one. Thank you, Andrew. The second, I would point you to a guy who I really
enjoyed, the apostate prophet on YouTube. His name is Rivdan Ayadimir. I butcher the pronunciation.
But he is a former Muslim from Turkey. He studied all the texts. He left Islam to great
personal risk and reputational risk and family risk. He converted to Christianity and accept
the Jesus Christ that is Lord and Savior, and he knows this stuff better than anybody else.
In fact, he at the stage at our Turning Point USA event, which was not well covered as well
as it should have been, he called for a complete prohibition on all Muslim immigration in the
United States.
Those were his words, not mine.
And he said, we should go through every Muslim immigrant and assess if they've actually
assimilated.
And let me say a word on that.
Assimulation, let me say a different.
Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.
You can write that down and put it on a bumper sticker.
And so they are, do you notice how the left is very good at changing words to mean something they are in?
Health care.
All abortion is health care.
Think of how many words we can think.
Immigration is the same.
You see, we are playing on a faulty terrain and they're applying scripture.
they don't even believe in to that terrain. So let me give you an example. So when we look at scripture
and it says, you know, welcome the foreigner, you know, all the different script of immigration. All of it is
predicated, though, on assimilation into the nation, all of it? But nowhere in the Bible does it say
you should allow your land to be invaded. In fact, it says the opposite, actually, to defend your
land against invasion and to fortify against it. So they say it's immigration. And the test is very
simple. The test is, have you assimilated to the United States of America? You know, do you have a
loyalty to another nation? You know, are you part of our project? And if the answer is no, then you've
not assimilated. And then you are a foreigner in the land. You see, that's the key. In the Bible,
it says, welcome the foreigner so that they could become one of you. Not that they remain a foreigner
while they're in your land. And if they remain a foreigner once you've invited them in, it
a whole different set of theological triggers.
Thank you very much.
Yes, next question.
Hey, Charlie, I'm from the conservative stronghold of Seattle.
Don't ask me to save Washington.
I can't.
I'm not going to.
Don't worry, don't worry.
Thank you.
What's the thing that's going to spark revival among Gen Z
in these deeply lost, deeply liberal cities like Seattle?
So I think we're already seeing pockets of this,
but let me tell you what it's not going to be.
It will not be a watered-down gospel or a sanitized presentation of truth.
It is the opposite.
And if I may humbly just talk about what happens when I go to the most liberal pockets in America,
when I go to University of Washington, for example, or when I go to UC Berkeley,
the liberal places, we draw thousands because the truth is a signal to them.
They don't want to just go to church and hear a TED talk with good music.
they don't want to just go to church and be like well the parking was organized and the coffee was
above average they want to be challenged and provoked and they want to be led towards eternal
truth and we talk about jesus as a savior but how often are we afraid to tell the people
we're trying to get saved what they need to be saved from and that is the word and
my friend Barry, we talked about this forever, your need of a savior increases, the more you talk
about sin.
And sin can only exist because sin means off the target if you talk about the target.
So you talk about the target, realize you're falling short, a younger generation knows they're
already unhappy, they're depressed, they're anxious, they're alcohol addicted, they're drug
addicted. They're lost. So they know all of that. You make sense of it being like, you know why
you're all those things? Because here's the target and you're over here and Jesus is the only way back
to that. And you're like, wow, I never thought. And we laugh. But the other, you know what the gospel
the other way is? They say, even though you're over here, this is the modern gospel. We're just going to
let you stay there because it's a little bit too judgy. And we're not going to talk about the ideal.
We're not going to talk about the target. We're not going to talk about how homosexuality is a sin or
transgenderism is bad or that gambling addiction is wrong or adultery is wrong because we don't want
to offend you because under the modern world, offending somebody is the greatest sin. Judgment is
unacceptable. God is just the guess and morality is completely subjective because we don't want to
engage in judgment. But the modern gospel is so bad at this. And by the way, this is why all those of
you that have a strong gospel, you're growing in all this. Now in Seattle, make sure you have good security,
obviously, but all kidding aside, I think the move of God will go into our cities. It's already
happening, as I say, top music, Gen Z's moving in massive numbers, but it will not happen
if your message is indistinguishable from something that they can just pull up on some sort of
a self-help seminar. It must be a hot gospel and a rescue mission for a lost generation. Thank you.
We'll do a couple more.
Yes, sir.
Okay, so Howell Shaw from Clark County, Nevada.
I know it well.
So I'm here to report that some amazing things have happened.
God is moving.
The ineffective leadership of the Clark County Republican Party
has been completely replaced by mega American first people.
So thank God for that.
That. With that, I'm kind of the unofficial chaplain. And wherever I go and I do my invocations, I
proudly proclaim Jesus is Lord. This last time, I had a couple of people come up to me and say,
Hey, Howell, you need to kind of tone it down. You know, there's just Jews in here, there's Muslims
in here. We're all conservatives. How do you react to that? No, don't do that.
So, again, what is the objection that people are offended, I guess?
Outrageous. So what? Christ is king. Thanks so much. Move on.
And by the way, don't do it as a way to offend. Don't do it as a way to taunt.
But a simply stated truth claim must never be apologized for. Period. Ever.
On end of story. And you can do it artfully and tastefully. You could do it in a presentation.
where you say, you know, we're so blessed by Christ our Lord to be here today, just that alone,
people will hear that. And once you speak the truth, it kind of hangs in the air. You think about it
and you dwell on it. No matter the circumstance, let me tell you right now, politics is peanuts
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So when Trump sends the surveys, I always put, I'm concerned about Sharia law.
Good for you.
15 minutes from here I live.
This is how close it is.
In a small city, Lameda,
a mosque came into the residential area,
and they're buying up all the land,
500 apartment buildings.
They have the money,
and I'm very concerned,
and we're really close.
And I believe that's how it happened in Europe,
was they took over the small cities
and then just...
Look, and not only that,
they've six, seven, eight kids per family, right?
So the population increases dramatically
and they're well financed
and they're well funded.
And I'll be very honest,
I think we as the church
are talking about so many other issues
because they don't want us to realize
and again, we've done really well
in the wokeism thing.
I think we should say,
honestly, we've made a lot of progress
and I want you to be encouraged about that.
Like I'm here to tell you guys,
I see it.
and I measure it, and, like, good job.
You guys have been crushing it on the wokeism thing.
I mean that.
Like, keep doing that.
This is the one, as you will see.
And I'll just give you a real example.
Anyone here from Texas?
Yes.
In Plano, in Plano, yes, I mean, it's great.
But I want that Texas attitude, though, which I don't know where it is,
because it doesn't exist right now,
because there's something called the Epic City,
the East Plano Islamic Community,
where they have bought up thousands of acres,
and they're building an Islamo-fascist, Islamist-only community,
where the mosque will be the center of the community.
This is their idea, and this is foreign to us as Christians.
We don't think like this.
We're like, here's the church, here's our family, stable order.
They have a conquering mindset.
And we think conquering only happens with tanks and drones and F-35s,
but there's another form of conquering that is much more subtle,
that is much more effective, and it's through infiltration, immigration, and maternity
wards.
Thank you.
What do we do about it?
You speak, first of all, we shut off all the immigration.
Trump has been great on that.
Number two, honestly, the more we speak about it, the more all of a sudden the answers
will come to us.
And again, the attitude people say, oh, you're so intolerant or you're so bigoted, reject all
of that garbage.
That's the same stuff they tried to tell you five years ago.
It's the same playbook they use with BLM guys.
It's the same playbook they use.
That's why I want to praise you on the wokeism thing,
because you guys are now veterans of the culture war.
You've been through it.
So don't fall forward again when they start calling you all these names
when it comes to Islam.
Because you guys have the battle scars
when they try to call you a white supremacist
when you didn't want to go take a knee for George Floyd, remember?
Same playbook will be used of thought-terminating cliches
to shut you up.
Thank you very much.
Yes.
We'll do a couple more.
I just wanted to mention the first mosque, I think, in Santa Barbara County was built in Goleta just a couple years ago,
and we're right next to the UCSB campus where we had the privilege to meet you a while back.
Thank you for coming.
But to me, it seems like besides the neighborhoods, communities that are being targeted for a strong Muslim presence,
they're staking out the campuses in America.
and I think it might be wise of us to create a counter strategy
where if they're going to come into our territory in that sense
to be very prepared to give counter arguments
or evangelistic outreach to the Muslim presence
on so many of our universities.
And so I don't know if you have any...
Well, I mean, look, the universities are very lost, as you know.
That's a whole separate issue.
I completely agree with everything you just said.
And look, everyone wants to talk about like foreign influence
in America all of a sudden? Okay, I'll up your ante. How about the Council for American
Islamic Relations? Who does not know what care is? Anybody?
Yeah, well, I'm not going to use that because I don't want to get sued, but, and by the way,
they are vigilant with lawsuits. Study care. That's all I can say. And Senator Tom Cotton has done
some great work on it. I don't like them all the time. I've got some big disagreements with
Tom Cotton, but credit where credit is due, care is a big problem in this country. Thank
you we'll do two more one one two yes hi charlie i'm uh from las vegas nevada and uh we um a friend
and i we go out to mosques and we um just evangelize peacefully out there and we are to reach the
lord uh with love and um they unfortunately believe jesus is just a prophet so we quote uh john nine
35 through 38 where jesus himself says to the man that he is god
And then you ask the Muslim, when has a prophet ever lied?
And they can't come back on that.
You know your stuff.
My question is, there are things, though, that they are against, abortion and LGBT.
Correct.
With those things, we align with them.
And also with the other denominations, an other phase.
We, in Las Vegas, in Nevada, we have question six coming on the ballots in 2026, where they want to extend our abortion to turn, to birth, to nine months.
We are already at six months.
And it, unfortunately, a lot of Christians, they didn't, they just voted to amend the Constitution without ever knowing.
Yeah.
And.
Got to go quick.
Yes, yes. So what my saying is they have Jesus completely wrong, and there are fanatical elements in the Muslim faith. But on other things, are we to align with them on things that are morally, that are immoral against them?
So this is a little bit of a false, a little swan song, good intention from you. There's not been a single example of a Western country or Western city.
that becomes more socially conservative as it all of a sudden becomes more Muslim.
I know that might sound weird, because they do a deal with the liberals to suffocate the Western influence.
And you see this in London. London still has gay pride parades, because it is a peace treaty that is administered between the Islamists and the, obviously, the LGBT mafia.
And let me tell you why that matters, because as the Islamists will, of course, not like and they'll find the gay stuff objectionable,
What's more important is the takedown of Christendom.
So it's a strategic alliance.
It is a prudent partnership with the social liberals to then take us completely out of the game.
So I'd be very, very careful with that point, honestly.
If they want to vote a certain way in a ballot referendum, great.
Terrific, fine.
Again, I want to state for the record.
There was a guy running for office, Zudi Jasser, who I knew in Arizona.
He was the best candidate.
Muslim, he wants to reform Islam, I endorsed him. I'm not against individual Muslims, right?
But the macro ideology as itself, I don't need to keep repeating it, is what it is, right?
And that's the other part. This is very important. I'm glad you brought this up.
So, our degeneracy here in the West, drag queen story hour, transgender operations, men kissing on screen,
it actually makes the Muslims more fanatical.
so this actually it is a our degeneracy is a deterrent from them assimilating so what happens is they come here to the west
they see all the degeneracy on TV and they're like oh my goodness all my Wahhabist friends were right
I got to now go to more stricter Islamist views so our degeneracy is actually a radicalization tool
for Muslims it does that make sense and in a way that is our
honestly, very scary and very dark. Thank you. Yes.
Pastor and Evangelist and your R.C. in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
I'll be there this Sunday, actually. Yes, we'll be there for you. So I'm going to preface my
question with a statement. Act 6 and 7, Deacon produces likely the greatest missionary convert
ever in Acts 9, Paul. Later on, that Paul tells Timothy, do the work of an evangelist.
In Acts 11, men of Cyrene resulting from persecution, go into another place cross-culturally,
evangelized. This is lay people. And the greatest missionary work, missionary catalyst ever is produced
out of that church, producing the evangelist of Barnabas and Saul and Paul, and we know what happened
for there. Here's my question. Would you agree that the greatest catalyst for revival in America
and would be lay people evangelism? So you mean not pastors, just one on what you mean?
Well, obviously, I want pastors to speak out and teach. Yeah, I would complain. I mean,
Barry completely agrees with that and that's Barry's life work you should meet Barry yes I think
that's a great point okay we got a wrap so we go one two I'm sorry but this is the second
last question yeah my name is Michael I grew up in Pakistan I got saved over there and what
you're talking about Islam is absolutely absolutely 100% true I was beaten because of my faith in
Jesus Christ.
In 1997, Muslim burned on our 1500 Christian homes.
13 church buildings were destroyed.
And we came here.
I love this country very much.
This is the only country where we can have a freedom of speech,
of freedom of religion. And we must, on every cost, have to protect this nation, our Christian
values. And I am very well worst in Islam, because right from the grade one all the way to
university level, we were forced to read the Quran in Arabic. And I know how difficult way I learned
that. But I love Jesus Christ.
He is my saviour, and I love this country.
And thank you very much, what are you doing.
You are an example of someone who assimilated to the United States of America.
So God bless you for that, sir.
Thank you.
And not only that, I have two daughters,
because we love this country,
and I really told my older daughter
that she should join the military.
Praise God. She is now a medical doctor and captain in the U.S. Air Force.
Phenomenal. Thank you. Thank you, sir.
And I want to just single out you and Andrew. If anyone has questions, please fellowship.
The most powerful thing is former Muslims, former people from the Middle East.
They know that they know the text. And you would agree. Everything I said was correct, right, sir?
Absolutely.
Yes. So again, this is not me going on a limb. This is deep study.
verified, and it's just a matter of us speaking it. Final question. Yes, ma'am.
Thank you, Charlie. I'm actually British. I grew up over there, and it's killing me to see how Britain and Europe are just done.
And I really don't want to see this country being done. So I just want to let everybody here know. My husband's been reaching Muslims here and around the world for many years.
The diligent Muslim families send their children for training every single night. So from very young ages,
the way up there getting trained every night of the week. Now you're on college campuses,
what can we as pastors do in our churches to prepare our kids in the way that they prepare
theirs? Well, again, I think what we're trying to do this at Turning Point USA, but part of it
is, of course, having them understand scripture, we know that, but they have to have a robust
appreciation and understanding of what is Western civilization. What is this thing? Why is it
different? Where did it come from? What is Christendom? Why do we defend it? Because this is, the Islamists
know it and they want it. They don't just want it destroyed. They want it as theirs. They want to
take possession of it. And the term, I encourage all of you to make a linguistic change.
Use Islamist or Mohammedan more than you use Muslim. Muslim has a connotation that's kind of on,
So that's fine.
Muhammadan or Islamist, right?
So, look, we also need to equip our young people to know that there is going to be a civilizational, basically head-on collision soon.
And again, let me just close how I said.
We have two simultaneous working in concert ideologies, Marxism and Islamism.
And here we are as Christendom in Western civilization, right?
And the good news is we win in the end.
Jesus Christ wins?
The call for us in this moment, though,
is to not roll over and act like it's inevitable
that we're just going to collapse.
In fact, I believe we should do the exact opposite.
So thank you.
Let me just close by saying, everybody,
my call to action is, keep on speaking out.
If you want resources, we can give them.
If you want to bring former Muslims
who are Christians to your church,
that's a great way to start this conversation in your church.
And if anybody gives you pushback in your church,
I would make an argument
the Islamist is actually easier than the woke
to address in your church
because you are a Christian church
first and foremost
and so it's a complete theological
difference and worldview.
Guys, I'm just thrilled at how much better
of a place we are as a nation than we were a year ago.
I want to thank you guys
for praying for me,
praying for Turning Point USA,
and we're going to keep on fighting
for this amazing civilization
and glory be to God.
Thank you guys so much. God bless you.
Thanks so much for listening.
Everybody, email us.
As always, freedom at charleycirk.com.
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