The Charlie Kirk Show - It's Election Day! Watching the Races that Matter

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

All eyes are on New York, New Jersey, and Virginia. Jack, Andrew, and Blake look ahead to the results, and Dr. Oz responds to an attack from Rachel Maddow on the state of healthcare during the governm...ent shutdown. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You've got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as much.
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Starting point is 00:01:09 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's Election Day. So here we are starting the day out. We're also going to be finishing the evening out with live updates. We're going to be streaming this evening. So check us out on all the Charlie Kirk Show platforms and socials.
Starting point is 00:01:25 And we'll make sure you have access to that. Of course, we're going to have our star-studded team, Election Day team in and Blake no in in honor of Charlie Kirk and and those of us gather around this table right now understand that Charlie loved election night streams and you the audience tuned in by the droves to hear Charlie do it so we're going to honor Charlie we're going to remember him honor his legacy and we're going to be right here again tonight so set your clocks we're just going to start at 730 Eastern correct that's when we're starting the stream 730 Eastern I think I think maybe 630.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Eastern. Oh, you know, that's the mountain time. Yeah, 630 Eastern. I apologize. So glad I did that. Jack Posobic, Human Events Daily host, joining us today. He's in town this week as well as Blake Neff back from assignment. Always good to have you, buddy. And you know, I want to open just before we forget about it, okay, we're going to be talking about New Jersey. We're going to be talking about Virginia. We're going to be talking about New York. But there are a lot of other places you could be voting if you haven't voted yet. If you live in Minneapolis, your mayor is up today. You've got gross Jacob Frye, but he's running against Omar Fate
Starting point is 00:02:31 the kind of Somali goblin looking guy. He's running Grocer. Voting that? California. We have Prop 50, is it? Prop 50. To gerrymander the state, you could vote in that if you're one of our many California people. All of you guys were always begging, Charlie, get more involved in California. That
Starting point is 00:02:47 is a race. You guys could make a difference in. Such a good point. And by the way, Pennsylvania Supreme Court. Pennsylvania Supreme Court. Listen, this show has a huge audience in a lot of different parts of the country but actually weirdly enough the california it's partly just because there's so many people in california but we also have great radio spread in california that we have a huge audience california and so to your point blake uh prop 50 uh is it yes or no blake oh man i can't remember
Starting point is 00:03:14 i think it's no i think it's no i'm gonna give you the answer i didn't mean to put you on the spot vote no vote no on prop 50 um there's been a i mean this is basically to reverse a referendum vote where the state of California. By the way, you know what's what's hilarious about this Prop 50 thing is that they set up an independent commission. Arnold Schwarzenegger, of all people, has been out loud and proud on this saying vote no. And I appreciate his efforts, you know, whatever, you know, past disagreements we might have. He's right on this. And, you know, even the independent commission has been radically corrupted because, remember, you get mostly Democrats that are on the independent commission. So, you know, it's better than Prop 50, but even the Independent Commission could use a lot of work. That's the bottom line in a state like California.
Starting point is 00:04:02 But, Jack, let's turn our sites to the east, okay? So we've got the three, it was four biggest areas of focus is going to be Chittarelli in New Jersey. So vote for Chittarelli. We've got Virginia, we've got winsome Sears, and then we got a, I mean, the AG race, which is actually probably the close. of the two we got you so if you're if you're thinking winsome sears can't win and that's not it's not worth going out put those thoughts aside you need to put those thoughts aside because here's the deal everybody needs to get out pull the trigger for uh winsome sears that's probably the worst analogy i could use uh in that race but you need to uh vote for winsom you need to get out
Starting point is 00:04:44 for winsome and then we want we also need to get the ag race over the top and and that one really has a chance big time i would say uh i don't know where the prediction market is are but we need to we need everybody in virginia to be think positive thoughts get out to the polls and uh make sure that the top cop in that state does not uh end up being j jones who is a real problem who has you know fantasized and fetishized the murder of his political opponents as well as their children this cannot be so jones must be defeated must be defeated soundly the good people of virginia get out to the polls that so we've got new jersey chitterrelli we've got virginia we've got mom donnie versus quomo there's been some big moves in that race the jack there there is some
Starting point is 00:05:31 uh i would say movement in the fact that elan musk has come out and endorsed quomo uh president trump has come out and endorsed quomo now zoran is saying this is a reason to vote for me of course which is exactly what you'd expect him to do do we see any signs of life for the quomo camp I mean, because there's different areas of thought here. There's different schools of thought saying that Zodon's outpaced and we just can't catch up with them. Or are we seeing this race titan? Well, before I answer, and we are seeing some signs of that, but there is one thing that I do want to say is that for all the people who will be voting today
Starting point is 00:06:09 and all the people who need to be voting, there is one person who will not be voting today. And there is a person who voted every single election. But this for the first time, I think, I guess since he turned to. who will not be voting today for the first election and his name is charlie kirk charlie will not be voting today charlie should be sitting right here today covering down on the election day coverage today and then all night on the super stream which was and we all know this it was his favorite night of the year was election night all right he absolutely loved doing this that's why we're going to keep the tradition going and be here tyler will be here as well but charlie kirk will not
Starting point is 00:06:45 be voting today and charlie kirk will not be hosting tonight and we know why Why? Because a violent leftist stole that right from him. A violent leftist stole that right to vote, his right to freedom of speech, his right to everything. And so for everybody out there, go out and vote today and do it for Charlie. Amen. Do it for Charlie. And by the way, I'd be remiss if we didn't mention the vote against retention. Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania. Yeah. So it's no, no, no, no. So the way these races are, it's no, no, no. So Pennsylvania, you've got, and you've got race. look everyone everyone's got an election go out and vote today obviously the races are close there you mentioned the ag race i pulled that up on the prediction markets and believe it or not about a couple it it looked like yesterday the race really tightened up just as of last night
Starting point is 00:07:34 it tightened up from like you know so uh suddenly the republican jes miari's flute i'm looking on kalshi he dropped way down to almost 50 percent and it looked like the democrat j jones was ticking up to above 50% at one point. This is the prediction markets on Kalshi, right? And then, but now all of a sudden today, as of 11 a.m. East Coast time, and I guess it's noon East Coast time, that suddenly now Jason Mierrez is pulling away with it, he's now back up to about 57%. So there was this strange tightening and now, you know, diving out on the New York race,
Starting point is 00:08:11 which is the one you asked me about, and I'm not going to be one of those guys who doesn't answer questions. We saw some really interesting data out of Kalshi, and I got this for New Jersey as well, that even though it looked as though Mandami is running away with it, if you break it down to Kalshi traders who have come in from New York only. So if you parse out the data and say, okay, everyone who's outside of New York City, we're going to take that out. Suddenly Cuomo's up nine points. Well, and I want to say this too. And I know, I know we, that's a really interesting. So insiders inside the city are actually more bullish on Cuomo and we have seen we saw that poll from Atlas that came that showed that the race was tightening in the final stretch here that
Starting point is 00:08:52 Cuomo was making up some ground Zoran was not putting his best foot forward this is something we talked about with Mark Alperin actually last week that you know sort of this grievance politics the the guilting Cuomo about not visiting a mosque or whatever these were not good looks something about Zoron's his mojo has been off here in the final stretch of this race and he's looking very very vulnerable he's not talking like a winner he's not talking like somebody or the contrary to that the other opinion would be that he is assuming that he's going to win and the mask is fully off but regardless Atlas has the race very much within striking distance which is which is you know listen if we could get one miracle today well listen I'll take all three but I'll take all three but I I want to leave you guys with this. Regardless of what happens today, we are playing offense on their turf. Think about this. Virginia basically was thought to be a blue state, then Glenn Yonkin took it back.
Starting point is 00:09:50 But, you know, we kind of knew that that was a – Glenn Yonkin was an exceptional candidate, and he took it back, made the state a little bit more red for a time, right? So that's basically a blue state. We're playing offense in that state. New Jersey, Blue State. Chittarelli could really win that race today. Chitorelli could really win the New York – are the New Jersey governor's race today. If Republicans turn out. Yeah, if Republicans turn out.
Starting point is 00:10:11 In Pennsylvania, we could stop the communist takeover of that state as well from a judicial standpoint. So we are playing offense on their turf. So look, look alive, be encouraged. There's reason for hope here. And we need to stay on it. Hey, everybody, Andrew Colvitt, executive producer of the Charlie Kirk Show. Charlie understood that to lead he needed to learn. Hillsdale College was ready. to teach him. While busy running his company, teaching America's youth, and raising a beautiful family, Charlie still found time to complete 31 Hillsdale College free online courses. He talked about it the last time he spoke on his podcast with Hillsdale's president, Dr. Larry Arne. Hillsdale is the cutting
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Starting point is 00:11:31 This morning we woke up here in mountain time, so two hours. off of these ghosts. I'm going to get this right. We just switched actually in Arizona. Arizona didn't switch the rest of the world did. That's how it works. So we're getting our time zones sorted here. But there was bomb threats in it looks like seven different counties in New Jersey. And what's hilarious about this is that you have Zoron Mamdani claiming that this would be the work of Trump. And we'll explain why that doesn't make any sense at all in just a second. Let's go ahead and play 159. incredibly concerning. And I think that it is an illustration of the attacks we're seeing in our democracy.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Sometimes they're blatant and explicit in the manner of these bomb threats. And we have to understand this as part of the general approach the Trump administration has taken to trying to intimidate voters. So he says, we have to understand this as part of the approach that the Trump administration has taken to try and intimidate voters. So, Jack, riddle me this. Are more conservatives or denials? Democrats voting on election day? It is typically more conservative. So it's going to be your Republicans and then it's going to be your conservative independence. So does it make any sense then that Trump would be responsible somehow for bomb threats on election day in New Jersey? No. And what you're seeing here is, of course, the guy who, you know, is the leading candidate to be the next mayor of New York City.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Immediately when given the opportunity, what does he do? He attacks and demonizes his political opponents. This is the same thing that we saw Jimmy. Kimmel do, by the way, in the wake of Charlie Kirk's murder. He immediately said that it was a MAGA guy who did this. And so what are we seeing again from, and again, we were told, oh, the left doesn't do this. The left doesn't demonize. We need to unite. We need to do all of it. Well, here you go. This guy, by the way, he is going to be, and if he wins, by the way, and I'm going to throw down the market right now, if he wins the New York City's mayor race, he will be the Democrat frontrunner for
Starting point is 00:13:30 2028 for the presidential election. I agree. And immediately, immediately, what's he do? He demonizes his opponents and blames his opponents for political violence. When we don't have any facts whatsoever right now, we do know that there's been a lot of political violence lately done by the political left. We could ask Charlie about that, but of course, he's not here to join us and be able to have that discussion because of the political left. And so, by the way, we got these great, we got these great. I voted. stickers and i think we have this this clip from where is it if you guys going to pull it up it's oh it's just a picture 167 um that we have up and they're post people are posting these up
Starting point is 00:14:11 across new jersey right now i voted to honor charlie kirk and in fact because i was in new jersey i have a bunch of them right here that's amazing those are great can i see them actually and i have a couple don't don't use them right if you can zoom in here these are phenomenal yeah i love that and we should vote to honor Charlie, Charlie would be right here today saying vote, vote, vote, vote. Blake, do you agree with what Jack just said that if Zoron wins today, especially if he wins handily in New York City, does he become the de facto frontrunner in the Democrat presidential race? No, he's, I think this is truthfully, I think this is one of those things where it's a person
Starting point is 00:14:56 on the left that if anything the right fixates on more than the left does. I think he's going to be a, especially because I don't think he'll be a very successful mayor of New York City. I think people do emphasize, they say he's going to make it way more dangerous. He might. He very well might, but I think he's much more likely to just ruin the economy of New York. It's far easier for the left to just like absolutely wreck New York cities. You can't say a guy who wins a massive upset like that doesn't get put into the contention for the Democrats for 2028. But, I mean, Bill de Blasio went nowhere.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Bloomberg went nowhere And he really had a lot Bloomberg ran for president But he had only he ran and he had unlimited money to do it And he's still completely flopped Yeah but Bloomberg was not a populist I'm talking about the specific brand Of left wing Marxist populism
Starting point is 00:15:46 That Mamdani is embracing It's anti-white, it's anti-Christian He knows exactly what he's doing It's obviously anti-Trump It's anti-it's sort of like He is the anti-Charlie Kirk Because I was thinking about how Mamdani and Charlie were kind of
Starting point is 00:16:00 about the same age. Wait, also, he can't run, right? That is weird. He's a foreigner. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, you're right. Well, you watch. They're going to try to change that. They might. They might. People talked about that. That is a really good point, actually. Actually, everyone in the world is an American citizen. That's why they all have security numbers. So, is more American and more patriotic than Native-born Americans? I'm sure. That's so I'm told.
Starting point is 00:16:22 That's actually, thank goodness for that little provision in that. Well, and it's almost like the founders put it there for a reason. Oh, it's almost like they had an idea that if you were born in America, you're going to be more loyal to America than if you weren't born. Wait, so loyalty matters? I don't want you to get too ahead of yourself. Okay, so listen, here's, I'm going to go back. We're going to have Rich Barris on later at the start of hour two. But one of the things we talked about with Rich is this focus on domestic issues.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And you see this candidly, messaging discipline has been better from the Democrats, talking about costs, health care, things like that. Look, I know there are a lot of choice. when it comes to who you choose for your cell phone service. There are new ones popping up all the time. But the truth is, there's only one that boldly stands in the gap for every American that believes that freedom is worth fighting for. And that is Patriot Mobile. For more than 12 years, Patriot Mobile has been on the front lines
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Starting point is 00:17:34 keep your number, keep your phone, or upgrade. Patriot Mobile's all-U.S.-based support team is standing by to take care of you. Charlie and Glenn over at Patriot Mobile, dear, dear friends, so I'll give the last word to Charlie. Call 972 Patriot today or go to patriotmobile.com slash Charlie, use promo code Charlie for a free month of service. That's patriotmobile.com slash Charlie, or call 972 Patriot and make the switch today. Dr. Oz, can you hear me? Are you, are you seated? You ready? Seated, ready in my office, actually, in Washington. I'm anxious to see what you're going to see about the election. Yes, absolutely. Well, this has been a really, it's an honor to have you on. I know you came on the Charlie Kirk Show multiple times with Charlie, both when you were running for Senate and then later on as you've been part of the admin. Charlie would be here. Unfortunately, if you can get the wide shot, we have his open chair here. Jack just did a beautiful tribute. to Charlie that Charlie would be begging everybody across the country to vote, vote, vote, vote in New Jersey, in Pennsylvania, in Virginia, in New York City. And unfortunately, he's not here
Starting point is 00:18:40 today. So, sir, the floor is yours. I know you had a personal friendship with Charlie. You texted often. And I just want to give you the opportunity to remember him in your own words. Well, kudos to you for carrying on the legacy. I spent a lot of time with Charlie. He was very helpful. We got to know him quite quite well during the campaign. But we also say, I saw it the last time here in Washington in June. We were going to do a show. We were at a meal together, and the bombing of Iran happened. So we said, well, you know, we'll do it in September,
Starting point is 00:19:09 and it speaks to the unfortunate reality that life is so unpredictable. I'm not going to take everyone through the trauma of that whole experience. Obviously, I joined the president when we flew out to the event in Phoenix, which was one of the top, you know, memorable moment in my life. and I've had lots of interesting experiences. But I think it speaks to the power that Charlie and the whole movement has had in waking people up to some of the dishonest narratives that we've been tricked with. But it sort of goes back, I think, very fundamentally to respecting some of those Judeo-Christian traditions
Starting point is 00:19:44 that so often have guided us into successful relationships, raising wonderful families, living in communities that are functional. And when we don't honor some of those basic principles, we run on the trouble. And on this election day, one of the many things that's being evaluated is what's called this this government shutdown. And I thought I'd use this maybe a jumping point to speak to those very values that Charlie and you and others would speak to. We are in a nation that treasures work. We believe in our country that business is good and you want to work in business and you want to do good things for your community through those businesses and build value in society and do things that fix problems, all the things that many of us grew up, I think, believing was incumbent to our opportunity
Starting point is 00:20:31 as Americans. And many people came from other parts of the world because they know and found out that America actually still does those things that their country stopped doing, like go to work, play a role in improving society, have agency over your own life because it matters. God put you here to do something. And whatever that thing is, go out and do it. So when we faced, as we came into the administration, a reality that Medicaid was basically insolvent because of some of the things that have been done during the pandemic, but some of that predated the pandemic as well, we had generated a system that just was not going to be functional for much longer. That would put our most vulnerable at risk.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I'm sitting in the Humphrey building in Washington, right across in the Capitol. As you walk into our building, there's a quote from Hubert Humphrey. And it says it's the, you know, he uses letters as a metaphor. It is the moral obligation of government, he says. It's a moral obligation of all of us to take care of those at the dawn of life, children, those at the twilight of life, the seniors, and those who are living in the shadows. Now again, that haunting metaphor is powerful. It feels almost biblical.
Starting point is 00:21:40 So if you're going to protect our most vulnerable, you can't allow fraud, waste, and abuse to strip it of its vitality. So the president, very directly told me to preserve, for example, Medicare, don't touch Medicare, don't hurt the folks who are vulnerable on Medicaid, but take the fraud waste and abuse out of the system. We have been doing that, and we're going to continue to do that. And the Democrats have shut down Washington that shut the government down because they believe that one big, beautiful bill, which codified many of the things that make sense to clean up Medicaid and protect it for the most vulnerable, we're wrong.
Starting point is 00:22:12 They want to, for example, allow illegal immigrants to continue to get funded for their health care. benefits. This fundamentally changes the equation. Democrats don't like this a work requirement. But we tell people, fine, if you're in a difficult spot, we'll pay for your health care. But you need to actually try to get a job. And if you can't get a job, go volunteer somewhere, go take care of somebody, go get an education, do something to reinforce what you should know deep down inside, which is God's got a plan for you and go act on it. And these are fundamental differences in how folks are seeing the future of this country, I believe because work is so fundamental to who we are, that we should have a
Starting point is 00:22:48 work requirement. I believe that if you're an American citizen, you should get support for your health care, but illegal immigrants coming here and induced to stay here because they're given free health care. That should not be part of the equation. Certainly, the federal government should not be paying for that. And we know, for example, and just not to get into too much the weeds here, that there are some states, there's six in the country, six out of 50 states, allow separate money to be paid to illegal immigrant health care from their state budgets. They claim. They claim. And, of course, that allows them to recruit and retain illegal immigrants, despite what federal law is around coming across borders illegally. And they think that's okay.
Starting point is 00:23:27 And now we are just identifying, breaking news, I'll share it with you, that we believe is over a billion dollars that has been taken from federal tax money to support these programs. In fact, they're starting to pay us back, so I'm pretty sure we're right. Wow. Well, that's breaking news. So a billion dollars you've identified that's basically fraud. It's basically fraud that the states are using improperly. So I wanted to play a clip for you, and I do think it's election-related because, you know, there is some polling out there that would indicate that the American people want to focus more on domestic issues, more on cost, health care, things like that as opposed to foreign issues, foreign policy. And I certainly share that belief. But one of the reasons that I think this resonates is because Democrats messaging, and I hate to say it, but I think it's been a little bit more disciplined in this, especially this election run-up than some of the Republican counterparts. They are talking about health care.
Starting point is 00:24:21 And I wanted to play this clip for you from Rachel Maddow. And it's in relation to the government shutdown where she's basically saying, well, if you strip these subsidies out of Obamacare, the ACA, then all these costs are going to go up for Americans, right? Now, Republicans have been warning about these subsidies for years that they're going to make Medicaid and Medicare insolvent in the long run. But I want you to give you a chance to respond to this and debunk this. 137. Look at these numbers from the New York Times tonight. Based on the newly posted information, meaning the pricing information that's now being posted in multiple states, a family of four making $130,000 in Maine, so you combine the family's income, everybody's salaries, you've got to do $130,000. That family would face an increase in their annual health insurance premiums next year of $16,100.
Starting point is 00:25:16 $100. That's how much their health insurance premiums would go up. This is what Democrats have been drawing the line about in this shutdown, telling Republicans that this is the thing they need to fix. Dr. Oz, this is your world. Respond to Rachel Maddow, because that clip on Facebook, by the way, had like 100,000 likes. So a lot of people are seeing it. So President Obama, who created the Affordable Care Act, right, it's called Obamacare. When he, pushed through Congress in a very partisan way, the Affordable Care Act, there was funding for people who were at the poverty level. The question then becomes, how do you define the poverty level? Well, they defined it as four times more than poverty. So poverty level lets us make a number up
Starting point is 00:26:02 is 16,000. Make it math simple. Make it $20,000 of poverty level. Then four times that for an individual, $80,000 is how much they were willing to cover. They weren't going to cover five, six, seven, eight times the poverty level. They just had to pick a number. We all do. So Obamacare did not cover people who are making more than four times the poverty level. And for that reason, when they added these COVID benefits, and they were purely added because we were in a pandemic and a war, and they were added for a very short period of time, and they were set to end when the pandemic ended. Are we out of the pandemic? We're out of the pandemic. We should not have pandemic era wartime rules when we're at peace. So the Democrats wrote the law.
Starting point is 00:26:45 It expires at the end of this year. And so it's their decision. They knew it was supposed to expire. Original Obamacare never covered people making four times Medicare. Rachel Maddow just picked an example of someone who's making, whatever it was, $150,000 a year, who was making more than four times Medicare. Therefore, there were not ever eligible for Obamacare. And she's complaining that what was done during COVID as a stopgap measure to deal with the pandemic is not being expiring.
Starting point is 00:27:14 so that's a problem for the Republicans. We were even willing, even willing, despite all that, to negotiate and talk about some of these issues, but only if we find a true solution to the fundamental flaws in a broken system. Obamacare pricing has increased so much faster as anyone ever imagined. It is becoming unaffordable,
Starting point is 00:27:32 even when the government's paying for it. But that's not what the Democrats wanted. They want to hold us hostage. At the last moment, they say, forget about it. If you don't, with a gun to your head, agree to extend all these subsidies and just pay, forget about dealing with the cost, just pay for it. We're going to hold you up.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And the president, very wisely, very bravely, together with congressional leadership, said, no, we are not going to be extorted. You guys caused this problem. It's your issue. We will help you fix it, but don't blame it on us. And yet, the legacy media, New York Times, a good example, they tell stories that are literally like Aesop's fables without the morality. I think that's really well said. And I'm sitting to my left is Blake Neff, one of our producers here on the show, Dr. Oz. And one of the things you rail about Blake.
Starting point is 00:28:14 and we're running out of time here. I wish I could give you the floor is that just when you get somebody addicted to a government subsidy, it's really hot. It just becomes permanent. It becomes permanent. Everything becomes permanent. And that's what we've seen. So the whole narrative that we're trying to strip health care from people. No, this is COVID-era spending that is unsustainable. We have to do something to bring it back. Yeah, we want to make health care more affordable, but this is not the way to bankrupt the country. But if I can just jump in there, because I do think it's critical, what is the average amount of premium that an Obamacare recipient will get next year. After all these things that Rachel says are so horrible expire, it's going to be $50. That's it. It's $13 more than this
Starting point is 00:28:55 year. That's the whole battle. Literally, the average person is going to be asked to pay $50 for a month for their insurance. You ask me, anyone out there working on their own dime getting paid from a commercial insurer, would you take an insurance policy for $50 a month? That's $13 more than last you'd say I can handle that that's a cup of coffee a day I can manage that yeah I mean I think that's really well said I mean listen at some point we have to say no we have to say no and we have to reform some of these structural issues in our health care system that are driving up costs but here I mean listen that was the whole exchange with Obamacare a bunch of people who couldn't afford it we're going to pay for it of course that's going to make costs go up for everybody else okay
Starting point is 00:29:34 I mean you can't you can't wave a magic wand and make make this stuff just disappear but But you cannot also bankrupt the whole of the U.S. government to keep subsidizing these runaways costs. I mean, you just can't do it. I mean, we'd love to. We just can't do it. Dr. Oz, great job. Thank you so much for joining us. You honor us and you honor Charlie. Thank you. God bless you. This is Lane Schoenberger, Chief Investment Officer and founding partner of Y. Refai. It has been an honor and a privilege to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to endorse us. His endorsement means the world to us, and we look forward to continuing our partnership with Turning Point for years to come. Now, hear Charlie, in his own words, tell you about Y-R-R-R-R-E-F-Y-F-Y.
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Starting point is 00:30:53 it can be overwhelming. Because of private student loan debt, so many people feel stuck, go to y-refi.com. That is y-reafy.com. Private student loan debt relief, yrefi.com. Blake, why don't you just riff on what we just talked about, Dr. Oz? Because, again, this is a domestic issue. This election is going to be domestically decided on domestic issues. What's up, Jack? We do have breaking. Reagan National Airport has halted all flights after a bomb threat.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Yeah, the aircraft has been relocated to the east side of the airfield as a safety precaution. We don't know if this is connected to the stuff in Jersey, but yeah, more bomb threats. More bomb threats. But to my previous point, like when you get addicted to the dole it's you can't get them off yeah i mean this is what we were warned about a hundred years ago when you're expanding everything is you know once once you're giving people free money especially something they've done nothing to earn in any way they've very quickly become extremely entitled to it uh and we've we've seen this transition across the board i mean
Starting point is 00:31:57 we've seen it with the snap pause there are people on snap who've never worked in 30 years have not seriously tried to work and it's a pot an apocalyptic offense that they would ever be expected to do it that they would ever be asked to do it they adjust their spending too and they adjust their spending so then if you look at snap recipients they spend more money on like nice luxury foods than people who aren't on snap okay i want to play this clip really quick uh because we got a lot of elections going on but again this is a this is an election season that will be determined by domestic issues play cut 55 the reason you have this the standoff is because if the hundreds of billions of dollars uh to create a financial incentive to like to have this
Starting point is 00:32:36 giant magnet to attract illegals from every part of earth to these states. If that is turned off, the illegals will leave because they are no longer being paid to come to the United States and stay here. Wow. And then they will lose a lot of voters. So this is why I played this clip. It's because this is a fundamental dynamic that you're seeing play out between left-wing messaging, right-wing messaging.
Starting point is 00:33:02 This is not about common sense or logic. It's about emotions. It's not ideology. No, this is not an ideology. This is about you're mean and you're trying to hurt people and take their health care away. And the Republicans are saying there's illegals on it. We can't afford it. Well, and Blake, we definitely use that line.
Starting point is 00:33:20 So Blake was on assignment yesterday, but he had given us this line in the group chat yesterday. And we used it, the gimmie grins. And it's just very clear. This is the gimme grins. And we realize that because we now have this massive and in a place like, New York City, which is the model. The Mandami model is what they want to expand across the entire country. The Mamdani model explicitly is tax white people so you can take their money and give it to resentful brown people. By the way, that is how he frames it. No, by the way,
Starting point is 00:33:50 that is his framing. What's funny, I remember Charlie actually tweeted about that and there was like a whole community note thing. It's like, no, that's not true. It's, it's, uh, white people and richer neighborhoods. It wasn't just about, but it was like in his platform is his, his, his, policy platform to say tax wider and richer neighbors. I just want this piece of crap ship back to Uganda so badly. Well, I mean, he's got his paperwork. There's this clip of Jay Jones. They're saying that about the dog.
Starting point is 00:34:18 I'm having the, I'm having the team. Are you seeing this thing? He almost kicked a dog. Well, I mean, we know how he feels about children. No, this is, this is interesting. Yeah, Jay Jones just attempted to kick a dog outside of Virginia polling station. You're supposed to, you're supposed to kiss babies and pet dogs when you're a politician.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Like, what is he even doing? I tell, we have the clue. I already know what he wants to do with babies. Yeah, yeah, he's, no, I'm saying, that's what I'm saying. He's got the opposite, you know, the opposite take on both, apparently. But, like, you know, there's that great, great clip from Tim Cup. I like the movie Tin Cup. It's Kevin Costner, it's a golf movie.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Charlie hated golf, but he and I disagreed on that. But there's this moment where it's, where he's talking about that. What's that? You're a rom-com guy, Andrew? You big rom-com guy? I don't know if I'm a rom-com guy, but I like Tin Cup. So check it out. So, it's a golf movie.
Starting point is 00:35:04 It's a rom-com. Basically, the video. villain in tin tin cup like they they say he hates dogs only bad people hate dogs but that's uh that's the uh the jack knick good as it gets too right here it is uh 178 may he rest may he rest be good and then he wake up tonight when you get this swing goodbye red say bye bye see you soon why did he just for for people only on the on the on the audio side i mean he he looks like he's about to kick the dog he swings as i mean like like what What's your take? You're always like Mr. Skeptic. What's your take on this?
Starting point is 00:35:39 That was a weird. That was a weird. But it's just a weird thing to do. It's just, uh, you know. It's a voter's dog. It's not his dog. Maybe he wanted to pet it with his foot. Sounds like something that would make sense to him. He wanted to pet it with his, with his patent shoes there. Rub his shoe on it or something. Okay, but the guy fetishizes about murdering his political opponents and is and their kids. It's the only way to change people's views, he says. It's the only way to change people's views. Not to debate them.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Because, no, he said they must feel pain before they change their views. And by the way, guess who, guess what Charlie's killer said about him? Some hate you just can't negotiate. Some hate, you can't negotiate out. Sounds weirdly similar. And then here's Jay Jones, who's campaigning to be the top cop in Virginia, the Commonwealth. And he just randomly, instinctively tries to kick a dog. Very strange.
Starting point is 00:36:27 It's almost like when people show you who they are, we should believe them. You should believe them. Look at that. That is the image. That's a kick. That's a kick. That's a kick. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

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