The Charlie Kirk Show - Joe Biden's Cancer Coverup?

Episode Date: May 19, 2025

We already knew that the Biden White House had covered up his mental decline. Now, we it may turn out that Joe Biden's doctors and handlers were hiding a cancer diagnosis as well. Charlie reacts to the news and breaks down the most shocking takeways from The Hur Tapes which also came out over the weekend. He is also joined by Sen. Eric Schmitt to discuss the former president's health updates as well as House Republicans' progress on Trump's One Big Beautiful Bill. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created,

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I'm debating in Cambridge momentarily, actually. And then tomorrow I will be debating at the Oxford Union. So we are here on the front lines debating on the issues that matter most that are pressing on Western civilization. Tonight, I'll be doing an open mic Q&A format. And then on Tuesday, I will be doing two debates at the Oxford Union. Great honor and lots to cover and lots to debate. So we'll be doing our show live here. Later in the program, we have Mike Davis and we have Alex Marlowe. We also have Senator Eric Schmidt joining the show, the great senator from the state of Missouri. And I want to dive in, of course, with the news that happened over the weekend.

Two points of news that are noteworthy and are very important. The first of which is that we finally got our hands on the Robert Herr tapes. Now, remember, Robert Herr was investigating Joe Biden for his mishandling of classified documents. Joe Biden mishandled classified documents allegedly by putting the documents in the garage. And none of us were really that overly animated about it, if it meant that Donald Trump simultaneously was also not going to be indicted for similar charges for the January 6th related document case and the document case beyond that when they raided Mar-a-Lago. The more interesting part of this, though, and remember, they recommended no charges for Joe Biden. Remember when Robert Herr wrote this report, this scathing report saying that Joe Biden does not have the mental acuity to be president.

Now, we've known this. And what I'm about to tell you is without a doubt one of the most egregious, one of the most outrageous examples of not just media bias, but intentional and repeated media malpractice in American history. We get asked all the time by members of the media, why do you guys not trust us? Where does this come from? This right here is why the American people, why the media far too often has become the enemy of the people. Remember, Hurst said that Biden would just seem like a forgetful old grandfather. So that's why he wasn't worth indicting. He was essentially too old and too feeble to prosecute. This guy's barely living is basically what Robert Hurst said. And the media told those of us that noticed Joe Biden's mental decline for years that you are wrong, that you are spreading myths and disinformation. People were smeared and

canceled and silenced because we saw it in right wing circles because we actually saw the videos publicly where Joe Biden was unable to mutter sentences. And the media, I would say they should be ashamed of themselves, but I don't even know if they're capable of feeling shame that requires some form of self-awareness that requires the media to have some sort of understanding that they should be in the pursuit of truth, but not in the pursuit of power. What I'm about to play for you here should take your breath away. This guy was president of the United States. There are so many questions here. The first of which is who was running the country? The second which is why were we not able to get these tapes last year? The New York Times in June of 2024 said Biden was being smeared by misleading videos.

That's what we were being told. We were being told that misleading videos were smearing Joe Biden's character in presidency. That you're a right-wing disinformation artist. And the media did not cover it. In fact, they covered it up. The media actively covered it up. And I'm going to connect all the stories together because also breaking yesterday was Joe Biden's prostate cancer diagnosis. I don't wish that upon him. I actually don't want my political adversaries and enemies to get sick and to die. We all die eventually, but let's be honest. The cancer announcement is of course directly correlated as a coverup because of these her tapes. This was, they were waiting to announce

the news of Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis because of what you are about to hear. Hold your breath. This guy was president of the United States. Play cut 186. Where did you keep papers that related to those things that you were actively working? Well, I don't know. This is what, 2017, 18, that period? Yes, sir. Remember, in this timeframe, my son has either been deployed or is dying. and so it was uh and by the way there were still a lot of people at the time when i got out of the senate that were encouraging me to run in this period except the president now it was beyond struggling to say the basic timelines. This guy was president of the United States?

And also, some of the media is like, well, we never knew because of these tapes. I mean, these tapes are really bad. Honestly, like Joe Biden publicly is just about as bad as we just heard on this Her tape. They knew how bad this was, but the media hated Donald Trump so much. The media hated our conservative movement so much that they were adamant that Joe Biden should continue as president of the United States, regardless of the fact that he could not be president.

And then breaking yesterday, Placut 179. Breaking news out of the White House about former President Joe Biden. His office just revealed that the 46th president is diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer. So they announced that Joe Biden has prostate cancer two days after the her reports. Everybody, they were running this man for reelection less than 10 months ago. They're saying that the prostate cancer has metastasized straight to the bone. Sorry to hear that. Prostate cancer is notoriously very, very slow moving. This is another one of Joe Biden's piece of conversation with Robert Herr, play cut 196.

And what's happened in the meantime is that Trump gets elected in November of 2017? 2016. Alright, so... Why did I have 2017 there? That's when you left office in January of 2017. Okay. But that's when Trump got sworn in. Right. Correct. Yeah. And in 2017, Beau had passed. He keeps thinking that Donald Trump was elected in 2017 and they keep on correcting him. And look, we have to get to a break here. But how many times does he have to mention the fact that Beau Biden was dying?

Was this just a clutch, a crutch, I should say, that he was using at every corner and every single turn? Beau Biden died in 2015. We know that Joe Biden did not have the mental faculties. I said this to the face of reporters for years and they said, oh, no, no, you're just a right wing extremist. And these reporters actively covered up one of the greatest scandals in American history. Praise the Lord, we really get through it and get President Donald Trump elected. Hey, everyone, Charlie Kirk here. You worked hard, raised your family, paid your taxes

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What's the protocol, Charlie? Well, you know, it's interesting. I try to eat very clean. You got to get your sleep. It's very important. I always like to have a banana. I do like to work out and go for a walk. And then there is the secret, secret weapon, hydration. Almost every study shows that if you are hydrated, you think more clearly, your brain relaxes. So try to drink a lot of water. The only downside, and when I do these three-hour campus debates, of which I want to come to the University of Missouri and do that, when I overly hydrate, I've got to sit there for three hours. I've got to use the restroom. Pretty terrible.

So, no, we're in the big leagues at Oxford and Cambridge. You are. You're like our American intellectual prize fighter. We're pulling for you. That's funny. I have to write down the full routine. It's a great question. But thank you for joining the program.

You're awesome and doing great work. So I want to just first get your reaction to these Robert Herr tapes and the cover up of Joe Biden's health and his mental frailty. Obviously, we're sorry to hear the news about that. He has prostate cancer. We don't wish that upon anybody. This timing of when they drop the news is awfully suspicious. But who was running the country the last couple of years, Senator Schmidt? It's a great question. And we honestly, we ought to have hearings about this because I was the first senator to call for that constitutional process to go into play to remove him because he was clearly not competent. Anybody with a half a brain could see that. And when the Hurt Tapes came, they never released actually the audio of the tapes, but you got to remember, you go back

when they interviewed him, it was about the documents that were, of course, stored in his garage were Hunter Biden, who had all sorts of dealings with other countries and potentially a drug addict was living in that house at the same time those documents were in the garage. The only reason they didn't charge him was because they didn't think he was competent to stay in trial so i mean all these things were happening at once anybody could see it and if his debate performance wouldn't have been as bad as it was and i was in the spin room with rubio and vance

and others and you could see it playing in real time like everybody else if it wouldn't have been so bad they would have literally continued to keep him propped up just so they could have another four years. It was all about power and control. And this sort of come to Jesus moment that they're all having now is so phony because they knew it. But who was running the country? It's a great question. A lot of people have different theories. But, you know, it's being run by Autopin, but who was hitting go? We ought to figure that out. Yeah. And it's also just this question of what form and structure of government did we have and do we have, which is if you can have a president who does not know what

year he took office, who does not know what year he left office as vice president, does not know what year President Trump actually got elected, then the country can still, quote, unquote, run, then is the president nothing more than a kind of ceremonial figurehead, Senator Schmidt? Well, listen, this is what we're fighting against, Charlie. I'm glad you sort of framed it like that. We're fighting against this managerial and administrative state that was created really about 100 years ago with Woodrow Wilson, who prior to Joe Biden, I think, was the worst president we've ever had in this country. Their dream, the progressives' dream was to have a government run by experts. And so when COVID happened, it kind of the veil went down and you could see what they really

wanted. It wasn't about elected leadership. It was about Lord Fauci and these other quote-unquote experts who knew better than everybody else. So this idea of we the people, they would love to get rid of that and they would love to get rid of that accountability and have this sort of permanent Washington managerial class run everything. And so this is what they had going and why, you know, people were attacked so viciously if you quote unquote question the science or you ask questions about who was running the country at the time because they got exactly what they wanted. But that's why it's so important for President Trump to have won and for him to have gotten his cabinet appointees approved who are reformers who want to disrupt what we've seen over the last really an evolution over 100 years. And Republicans were guilty of this, too.

We've got to get it back to a point where there's real accountability and we fundamentally dismantle the administrative state. I love that. I'm going to keep you for another segment, Senator. And this is one of the most important fundamental structural issues. And understand that a deep state bureaucracy running the government is not just an American problem. I am here in London and I just met with Liz Truss, former prime minister, and she said we have an entire bureaucracy that runs the government, that there is this clash between the sovereign, the people, and the deep state. This worldview has enveloped the entire Western world.

The difference is that our Constitution was supposed to prevent it, and now it is the people versus the administrative class. Back with Senator Schmidt in just a second. what it really means, do you? Hillsdale College offers more than 40 free online courses. That's right, free online courses on subjects like the Book of Genesis, the rise and fall of the Roman Empire, the history of the ancient Christian church. It's hard for me to even say which is my personal favorite. You guys have got to take these online courses. They've recently launched a new course, Understanding Capitalism, that I've been watching. In seven lectures, you'll learn about the role of profit and loss, how human nature plays a part in our economic system, why capitalism depends on

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For example, there's an amazing thing in the bill of taxing of remittances, which will basically financially and economically make illegal immigration untenable, which is the money that people send back to their home and native countries. It's the largest investment in border security in American history. No tax on tips, no tax on overtime. We're going to see across the board tax cuts, drill, baby drill, and also the repeal of a lot of Joe Biden's inflation reduction act nonsense. But Senator, do you believe that it cuts discretionary spending enough, Senator? I don't. And that's, I think, where the rubber's really going to meet the road. It's also got some great school choice

provisions in it, which are, you know, at the end of the at the end of the day, we can tout. But I do think here's how I look at it. I think we've talked about it before. Normally, when you do an appropriations bill or even a continuing resolution or even these ridiculous omnibuses, it takes 60 votes in the United States Senate. Right. So the Republicans that want to spend more money are hunting for working with Democrats who want to spend more money. And that's how you get to the 60 votes. And that's why spending typically continues to go up and up. This is different in the sense that you only need 51 votes in the United States Senate. So we do have a real chance to reset the amount of money that we're spending every year. That's how I look at

it. It's historic to deliver on President Trump's promises. And by the way, he's talked about having a balanced budget himself. He did in the State of the Union. I really believe if we're serious about spending reform here, we can get there by the end of his term. Because if you just get the pre-pandemic spending levels, plus population growth, plus inflation, and you hold that line for a couple of years, revenues will catch up and you'll have a balanced budget. That's how I see it. So I do hope that they get a little bit more serious about the spending reforms over in the House. That's what I want to see in the Senate too. And I think that's what's kind of going on behind the scenes right now. They're continuing to move that process forward.

The Budget Committee passed it out, I think, last night. So this will be a big week for where the House actually lands. So all this conversation about SALT stuff, to me, whatever. That's not a big deal to me. I know it is to people, the reps in New York and in California. Well, hold on. Let me tell you why it's not a big deal. It's not a big deal because Missouri largely has its act together. And you guys don't extract 10 percent of your citizens' income every year to fund a bloated social welfare bureaucracy. the SALT thing, which is it's an indirect subsidy of the failed pension system of New York, the failed public sector teacher unions of Chicago. It's an indirect federal subsidy

that do not make these states get their house in order. Senator, unfortunately, though, what we've seen since the SALT deduction is these states, when we got rid of it with Trump, these states did not get their act together. But you could make an argument. And I know that the New Yorkers don't want to hear it. I know the Californians don't want to hear it. But once we got rid of salt, I think a lot of Republicans or smart people that want to pay lower taxes left the blue states going to red states, which is one of the reasons why Arizona is getting redder and Georgia is getting redder.

Again, we don't make the policy based on that, but you can make the argument salt makes people start getting rid of salt, makes people voting with their feet. What are some of the other interesting nuggets of good stuff in this bill that you want to make sure remains? Well, you've got even on the defense side, right? And so you put me in the category. I did a thing with Politico. They had me as a MAGA Republican, this American realist.

There's like a zoo animal they like poking. So I did an interview with them and their defense forum last week and just said, look, the days of us being everywhere all at once all the time, it's not realistic. President Trump, I think, gave a great speech in Saudi Arabia. Maybe one of the great presidential speeches I've heard. I've never heard a president articulate that vision on the world stage like he did. And it's long past time. We've squandered that inheritance. Nobody ever adjusted 30 years ago. Now President Trump is. So you've got some real opportunities in the defense side for the Golden Dome, for procurement reform. You mentioned the border. It would help accelerate deportations with the dollars because they're adding more people under expedited

removal. You don't actually need to go through all the hearings that the Democrats are calling for through expedited removal. That's people who've been here for less than two years. It has more money for that, so you can process more people more quickly. So on the border side, on the defense side, and then on the energy side, I think it really kind of ratchets up. The good stuff pulls back some of the Inflation Reduction Act stuff that was really wasteful. So all in all, all the stuff we want to do, that's good. But I do think there's still a lot of room to have more spending reform. So again, we just can't keep having, you know, spending $2 trillion we don't have every year. It's not sustainable. It's just not sustainable. So I think that's where things are at right now. But there's a lot of great stuff.

I mentioned the school choice. You had mentioned a few of those things already. There's a lot of provisions in there that are President Trump's priorities and what conservatives have been looking for for a long time, that we only need simple majorities. So if we stick together, we can get it done. But I do think we got to get serious about spending reform. So, yeah. And where would you say is the ripest for spending reform that we should emphasize? And secondly, I don't know where you stand on this. Our podcast is doing very well. Praise the Lord. We are on the higher income earner. I'm not like I'm not I don't want to pay more in taxes. Obviously, I think I pay way too much in taxes. But if I have to pay three percent more in taxes and you guys are able to cut a trillion dollar in spending to make the math work.

I don't think we should be overly ideological about it. And because the math is so compelling that if we raise taxes by two percent on high income earners, that could actually offset some of the tax cuts for no tax on tips. Is that still being entertained? I know Speaker Johnson removed it. The one thing we should be ideological about is not having America go bankrupt above and beyond all. Again, I'm not like asking Congress to raise my taxes, but I can say as someone who would see my taxes go up, I would be okay with it if we get serious spending cuts and if it gets on a path towards a balanced budget. Is that been dismissed? Is that idea still alive? Please, Senator, your thoughts.

Yeah, I think, look, the truth of the matter is, and let's just take Medicaid, for example. If you do work requirements, if you have regular audits to make sure the people who are actually receiving the benefits, and there are people, we've made a decision, and I agree with it, that people who cannot help themselves in particular, people with, you know, individuals with disabilities, poor kids, absolutely, that should be a safety net that we need to strengthen in many ways. And I think there's efforts to do that, but people who are able-bodied ought to be working. And I don't think that's controversial, but we don't do that now. So that's one way that you can provide some savings. And I think re-secure that network for the people who need it most. But also, and Ron Johnson's talked a lot about this. If you went through individually, and I

hope that we do this because we got to get this right. Like I said, I don't know that we'll get another chance in it. This is my third year in the Senate. It could be the only time in my time in the Senate we ever get this opportunity through reconciliation with the trifecta. If you just go back, we were spending $4 trillion before the pandemic in 2019. We spent $7 trillion. We take in $5 trillion. If you could just go back and say, you know what, the COVID spending or I should say the IRA, the ARPA money, all that stuff, ARPA money, that blew the lid off of. Let's go back. And if you look at what Doge is doing, Charlie, a lot of what they're doing when they talk about reducing the number of employees in departments like at Veterans Affairs, they're just talking about getting back to where we were four years ago, right, to make it more manageable and deliver

great service. So I think if you were a little bit more precise about that, there's a lot of savings that can be found. But I talked to President Trump on Saturday. I never divulge private conversations, but he's talked about this publicly. You know, what we're seeing with some of the revenue that he's instituted with the tariffs, that is sort of a part of this calculation, too. And ultimately, the vision is to get to a place where we have external revenue to the point where you can eliminate the income tax for people making over $200,000 a year. That's a massive shift. So we talked about this progressive form of government that was really instituted 100 years ago. President Trump's going after all

those assumptions, right? He's saying that the income tax, as it's been created and evolved over 100 years, really punishes work and working families. We've had the jobs that have been shipped overseas because of our terrible trade policy. We've had a foreign policy that wasn't adjusted in 30 years because we squandered this inheritance. People didn't adjust. It was meant to kind of get our allies back on their feet in Europe and Japan. And we never said, hey, maybe you need to start ponying up from your own defense. I think if you do all those things, you have energy dominance, you have this regulatory reform, we're going to see a lot of savings. And again, the goal of balancing the budget, that's my goal. And I think that's

President Trump's goal, too. Senator, thank you so much for your time. Really appreciate it. Sorry we couldn't go deeper into some of this, but thank you for the great work. And thank you for fighting hard for the country and for Missouri. Senator, thank you so much. Privacy to loan debt. So many Americans feel stuck and helpless. They are the sponsor of our campus tour. They are great people.

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Okay, everybody. Welcome back. Email us, as always, freedom at charlie refi.com. Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com. So I'm here live in London. I want to just give you a little update here. There's some really exciting things happening. And simultaneously, there are incredible troubling things that makes me every time I come to the UK, I'm just so thankful to be an American. They got so many problems here and they have cultural problems alongside political problems. So firstly, the good news, some of the by-elections here in London, Nigel Farage's reform party is doing very, very well. Everybody I'm talking to who knows what is going on in British politics, they're saying Nigel Farage is the favorite to become the next prime minister of the UK.

They say the reform party is ascendant. They say that the old conservative party is dead and they were not conservatives at all. And the reform party is the new opposition party. That they are gaining momentum. They are gaining strength. And honestly, we are Nigel Farage's biggest fan as they are trying to continue to do that. So straight from the front lines here, there is a movement that is afoot. But what is needed here is the grassroots. And we just sat down with Liz

Truss and her team. We're talking about this. She was the prime minister back in 2022 for a little while. And there is a fundamental issue in the UK. And it's both a cultural one and it is a political one. The United Kingdom, Britain, England gave us our free speech ancestry. Free speech came from the UK. The UK has decided to no longer embrace a culture of freedom of speech or dialogue. They have the misinformation and disinformation police. Did you know that 30 people a day, according to the Telegraph, are arrested for inflammatory social media posts? Knocks on your door. 30 people a day in the United Kingdom. Do you know that Britain had the same GDP per capita as the United States of America in 2008?

Now the UK is substantially poorer than the United States of America as a GDP per capita. The UK embraced this nonsense of a nation of immigrants. Do you know every part of the UK except London is behind our poorest state in America, Mississippi? And we love Mississippi. It's just a poor state. Every single part of the UK. The UK is a very, very poor country with a very, very rich city, London. The rest of the UK is extremely poor. There is an opportunity here, but to be perfectly honest, if you do not have a culture that embraces freedom of speech, that embraces dialogue, then you're not able to solve your other political problems. It is a first principle truth. If you are not able to complain, call out, challenge

power, if you're not able to persuade people, if you're not able to ridicule your leaders, then how are you actually ever going to fix all of the other problems? In fact, I was just driving in a car and I said to my driver, I said, you guys got, you've imported way too many Muslims into this country. And they're like, did you just say that? I'm like, yeah, you guys have way too many Mohammedans in your country. You see, they're thinking it, but the spoken word is what's important because they're afraid that they might get a knock on the door or it's very unseemly from British standards to say such things. They're a little gun shy.

Free speech is a cornerstone of a vibrant country. And I'm sorry, when I'm walking down to Piccadilly Square and every other shop has Arabic, when I go see a cafe and every woman is fully in a hijab, that's not Britain. That's something else. You might want that. You might think that's a good thing, but it's something else. That is not the United Kingdom. The spoken word is the catalyst for creation. God spoke creation into being. Speech is powerful. In the beginning was the word, as it says in John 1, which is the logos. It is the spoken word, not the thoughts, not just the internalized truth. You must speak it and it becomes material reality. I will say, though, that if the stars align, based on my conversation with the grassroots here and the drivers and the, what do they call them, the cabbies and the working folk, there is a political revolution waiting to happen in the UK. You need someone with courage, and I think Farage is that person.

You need a series of influencers. Things need to start breaking their way. I'm telling you right now, there could be a political revolution like the Trump one, and they're just looking for their Trump in some way. And it could be Nigel Farage. And the reform party is doing very, very well. But they need to start speaking out more and not carrying the social cost. Ooh, I don't want to be called a racist by the London Times. Who cares? That's so 2008 around America. Speak the truth, regardless the cost. You could take back Britain. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us, as always, freedom at

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