The Charlie Kirk Show - Just Do It! Fixing America is About Willpower, Not Ability

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

Stopping crime isn’t a mystery. You do it by arresting criminals and sending them to prison. As Charlie and Blaze host Auron MacIntyre explain, it’s just a question of willpower. They also discuss the legacy of the Civil Rights Act, a possible indictment of Adam Schiff, and more. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio. What is behind Trump's takeover of Washington, D.C.? It's time for indictments, right, against Adam Schiff? We explain and also a concern I have. Then Oren McIntyre joins the program to talk about D.C., the Civil Rights Act, and more. Email us, as always, freedom at charleycirk.com. That is freedom at charleycirk.com.

Get involved with the most important organization in America. That is Turning Point USA at tp.usa.com. TPSA.com. Buckle up everybody here. We go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job. Building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives. And we

are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Email us, freedom at charliecirk.com. I want to play a couple pieces of tape all around this story of DC crime. And I want to play just some of the reaction. First, it's very interesting. MSNBC was trying their best to make this all about a racial issue.

But there was a shocking response from the main. Mayor of Washington, D.C., Muriel Bowser, who in herself, she's a race Marxist. But she knows that Donald Trump holds the cards. See, Muriel Bowser, she's playing this one a little bit smarter than most. She knows that open defiance and battling with Trump will only further cede her control of the city. You could also probably make an argument that she's sick of seeing these poor, young, innocent black kids get caught in the crossfire. could probably make an argument that she actually wants to see Washington, D.C. cleaned up. She knows not to antagonize Trump.

I know nothing about Muriel Bowser. I think she's a failed mayor of Washington, D.C., and I think that's all we need to say about that. But listen carefully. This is the MSNBC host. They wanted to turn this into a racial issue. They wanted to go racial politics 2.0. And interestingly enough, Muriel Bowser, the mayor of D.C. didn't take the bait.

Playcut, 26. One of the things that we have seen over and over from the president, from his team, you know, Stephen Miller saying it's like Baghdad and Ethiopia, they seem to hold their harshest criticism sometimes for cities that are majority black and brown. Do you see that and what do you think that means? I think that I have been dealing kind of with this issue for a number of years. It's kind of easy fodder on the campaign trail. But now we're talking about governing, and my job is to focus on making sure our city is running, is running well, and people enjoy a great quality of life.

And I just have to say thank you to MPS, FBI, ATF, who've always worked cooperatively with us, and we expect that they will again. interestingly i didn't know that i know eugene daniels in the fact we run into each other a couple times he's actually always been very kind to me but if i were to give you know a piece of critical feedback to eugene daniels who asked that question you're setting her up for kind of a racial segment there and she didn't take the bait eugene daniels is not 2020 anymore the moment's over man you just got to ask the straight facts you could tell the whole wind up of eugene daniels there is well can't you tell that he's only going after black and brown communities respectfully of Eugene Daniels. Respectfully, Donald Trump is going after, in any way you want to call it,

dangerous communities that happen to sometimes be black and brown. Donald Trump does not look at black or brown, Asian or white. He looks at the color red, the amount of blood that is being spilled in these cities. That is the only color that Donald Trump cares about. How much blood is pouring through the streets of Washington, D.C., unnecessarily, in an unacceptable way. And it's just amazing to me that the D.C. Mayor, Muriel Bowser, again, I don't trust her as far as I could throw her. But it's very interesting that she didn't want to force this into a racial argument. Is she getting good coaching? Is she being prudent? Is she exhausted with the racial conversation? All of this is just guessing. But you saw in that clip, which I found to be just fascinating,

The media was getting ready going back in a muscle memory. And Muriel Bowser apparently has gone back on that a little bit. Let's go to cut 327. And now she's like, well, I don't think it's legal to use the United States military against American citizens and American soil. Well, that's where you're wrong, Mayor Bowser. Might I point you to the Insurrection Act that was invoked by George H.W. Bush after the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles.

look no one delights in trying to say that we might have to use the military in our great cities but we should be unafraid to use it if the circumstances demand it under the correct legal parameters and when you have a city like washington dc that is more dangerous than mexico city bogota more dangerous than new deli and substantially you got to take a step back and say we are a failed we are in a failed direction direction if we're allowing this to continue play cut 327 muriel bowser back petting backpedaling a little bit we don't we don't we don't think i speak for all americans we don't believe or believe it's legal to use the american military against american citizens on american soil look she's just hedging

all over the place no one is talking about marines firing upon american citizens what we're talking about is a show of force of military support to work with police to stop this unacceptable crime spree in not just our nation's cities. We'll get to Chicago and we'll get to L.A. That's coming in our nation's capital. And I mentioned this yesterday. One of the things I love most about President Trump is his soft spot for symbols. Symbols matter a lot. It's a reason why I wear a a crucifix. I wear a crucifix because this symbol represents my salvation. Symbols are really important to society. And the left, you understand, they have been intentional at tearing down our symbols, tearing down our statues, torching our churches.

The border, by the way, is a massive symbol. Either you have a border or you do not. When it was open and now that it's closed, it's a symbol of sovereignty, of order, of national, rigidity of the continuity of a shared American experience. And President Trump, rightly, by the way, feels embarrassed when he does these, you know, beautiful state visits, the head of Jordan, the head of Croatia, the head of Bulgaria, the head of France, Emmanuel Macron, and they have to drive through Washington, D.C., and they see what we see. the symbol of a target getting looted in Minneapolis

was so powerful, it boosted the murder rate by 30% nationwide overnight. If we can crush crime in D.C. And make the city clean, beautiful and safe, that will matter nationwide. Of course, here is the spin from Dana Bash. Dana, I want to challenge you something, Dana. Let's play cut 3.30,

and then I'm going to have a challenge for Dana Bash. Play cut 3.30. The most violent moment in recent history in D.C. was January 6th. And it was an attack on the United States Capitol by a lot of people who were doing it in the name of Donald Trump. And it included the people who were hurt, included members of law enforcement. Okay. So first of all, the only person to die on January 6 was law enforcement that killed Ashley Babbitt. Secondly, and most importantly, Dana Bash, if you want to engage in the trivialization of D.C. crime, go and put a GoPro on.

By the way, you want to go be popular, you want to go be well-known, you want to be, have notoriety. Go walk the streets of Washington, D.C. at night. Unaccompanied, Dana Bash, if it's so smart, if you're so smart and it's so safe, go walk the Navy Yard at 11 p.m. Their new Democrat talking point, of course, is violent crime in D.C. is down 26%. A new 30-year low. but they've been lying about the numbers. In fact, D.C. police commander has been suspended, accused of changing crime statistics. Stephen Miller says, quote, crime stats in big blue cities are fake. The real rates of crime, chaos, and dysfunction are orders of magnitude higher.

Of course they are. Everyone who lives in these areas know this. Their entire program, they program their entire lives around it. Democrats are trying to unravel civilization. President Trump will save it. Again, all the crime stats are. We see it. We know it. We can feel it. But let's test it. Let's use the scientific method. Let's see whether or not our assumption is correct. Cause and effect.

Can you walk the streets of Washington, D.C., unaccompanied? Joe Scarborough comes out this morning and even says that people that live in D.C. are afraid to walk just a couple blocks at night. So if D.C. is so safe, why don't you feel safe walking the streets of Washington, D.C.? Why is that exactly? Because D.C. is not safe. And Chicago is not safe. And New York is increasingly unsafe. And Los Angeles is not safe. And San Francisco is not safe.

People are leaving these cities. And again, I don't need some lecture of some PowerPoint presentation of how the books are cooked of whatever crime statistics. We don't need that because we're going to get the real stats once the FBI gathers all the data. What is important, though, is whether or not you can walk the streets. and in Washington, D.C., you could just get jumped. This is Joe Scarborough making our argument for us. Play cut 332. You can walk 40, 50, 60 blocks in Manhattan at 2 in the morning and feel safe.

And yet in Washington, D.C., I've got friends that worked in the Biden White House. I have friends that work in the media that say they don't feel safe walking three blocks in Washington, D.C. Why can't Washington be fixed, despite what the crime numbers say? because people aren't feeling it. You know, often it's the perception of being safe or unsafe that affects cities. And I think that's what's happened in Washington, D.C. Washington, D.C. has 3,400 police officers. They're undermanned.

The National Guard will provide a presence. And sometimes that's all you need to clear a block or clear a person's mind that it's okay to walk that block. police presence or the symbols of police presence. So we'll see how it goes. We must succeed. It could be a template for the rest of the nation. The summer isn't just hot. It's historic.

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President Donald Trump. Now, out of all of the creatures, by the way, Cash Patel just declassified this, so well done Cash Patel, out of all of the creatures within Washington, D.C. Adam Schiff might be one of the worst. Adam Schiff famously went on television and I'm paraphrasing so I don't want to be off the mark but he said that there is credible evidence that Donald Trump colluded with the Kremlin to get elected use emphasis on direct collusion with the Kremlin now we are learning more and more that Adam Schiff knew it was a lie and he peddled it anyway you could maybe cut some of these

guys a little slack at one point oh they might have thought there was russian interference but the moment that you know something is a lie and you continue to push it you are bordering on the big t word you are then using a political opportunity to undermine the elected sovereign shift was on the house intel committee which means he knew this was all bogus the house report from 2020 that we just got had intelligence way back in 2017 he knew the proof was weak. This was a soft, slow motion coup to overwhelm the United States of America. So Adam Schiff knew that the proof was weak. Schiff called the staff meeting, told everyone he was going to leak classified intelligence to harm Trump. Someone pointed out that's treason. Other staffer said not to

worry about it because they won't get caught. That's according to a Democrat whistleblower. Let me speak for the audience here, though, if I may talk personally for a second. I'm getting a little exhausted doing these segments. And it's fine. Shift did this. We leaked that. Russia Gate, conspiracy. Brennan, Clapper.

Great, fine. It's time for action. Cash Patel, Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi. These are good people. I think they agree. It's time for action. We really are getting to a moment where all these stories are helpful. All these stories are interesting.

All these stories get headlines. But I'm not here to mislead you the audience, honestly. and I feel as if we keep on covering these stories and we could talk forever and ever and ever, but I don't want to mislead those of you right now that want what's best. You could talk forever, but people will be very angry if you can talk endlessly about it

but never indict anyone. I'm going to yield to Bondi and Bongino and Cash, and J.D. said something similar, who's the best. Jadie's the greatest. Jadie's not, the ball's not in his court in his sense. He's the vice president of the United States. But in some ways, I wonder, Was it the best decision to leak this?

Shouldn't we have just been indicted and then leak it? What I'm getting at is here is that it's nice to, okay, great, great for ratings. Yay, Charlie Kirk's show. Woohoo. Guy, I can, no. Not leak, by the way, release, just to be clear. Not leak release. But at this moment of time, indictments matter infinitely more than press conferences,

declassifications, and social media trending. Because here's what's happening. Let me just say this for the administration, you know, buddies that are watching and for some of the audience, the more that we see these documents, if we do not get high profile indictments, it'll be worse than you ignoring it. Just saying, all of these leaks are very helpful. It's nice for our show. It boosts ratings. People love watching it.

I don't care about that. I want what's right. But let me just say, the more that we see these leaks, the more that we see this stuff come out, there is an expectation that is now brewing amongst the audience. And where do you get anger in life? Anger comes when expectations and reality are misaligned. It's a great rule for life. So when you have rising expectations and reality does not meet those expectations, you're going to have angry people. so I hope and it is my great prayer that this is leading towards massive indictments because boy do we need it I visit hundreds of campuses every year and I see it everywhere kids are struggling to deal with their emotions and it's taking a serious toll on their mental health that's why I'm excited

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The guest is Aaron McIntyre. He's a serious thinker, Blaze TV host, an author of The Total State. Aaron, great to see you. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Thanks for having me, Charlie. So, Aaron, you have, why don't we take this before we get into some of the stories of the day, it's your first time on the program, I believe. introduce yourself who are you what do you believe and what do you do uh i'm oran mackinty i've got the oran mackintyre show over at blaze tv i'm somebody who spent a lot of time just as an average guy i was a high school teacher i did a little bit of reporting for a local newspaper and i

started studying a lot more about political theory uh once i saw what happened during covid all the insane violations of our rights because i needed to understand what was actually going on I started making videos and talking about that. And that's really how I got to what I'm doing today. So speaking of kind of the structure and the form of government, let's dive into some of the news of the day. President Donald Trump has announced that there's going to be a federal takeover of Washington, D.C. We have long said that crime is a choice, that rampant crime and the kind of degeneration of America's greatest cities has been a conscious decision by our political leaders. Has there been a comparable example in history or even in modern Western times of a great power deciding to no longer be great? And your thoughts on the federalization of Washington, D.C., as President Donald Trump uses federal force to clean up our nation's capital.

I think it's a constant feature of declining societies, especially declining empires, that they lose the will to make the hard choices, that decisions become increasingly difficult because everyone wants to avoid. accountability and responsibility. Laws get put into place just to protect the criminals because ultimately it's fear of the process that people worry about, not the fear of the actual crime. The people who are being victimized are put below the others. Their rights are less important than the rights of the criminal. I think that what we're seeing with Donald Trump right now is the willingness to say, no, law and order is what matters.

The safety of the American people is what matters. and we're not going to let a bunch of soft-on-crime laws and everybody else who's trying to put all of these barriers between us and keeping the people safe, we're going to start ignoring those. We have the authority to do so, the Constitution grants, Congress, the ultimate legislative authority over Washington, D.C., was never supposed to be its own city with its own political interests, and it certainly wasn't supposed to increase crime

by putting these type of soft-on-crime policies in place. I think a lot of people have been waiting for moves like this from Donald Trump, and they're very encouraged to see him taking this kind of action. Of course, the press is up in arms over all of it. And it's, look, it's not that crime is hard to stop. It's that it's mildly unpleasant to stop. And we have decided that if some groups will go to prison more often than others, then it's just not worth having real loss.

Yeah, Charlie, we see this reflected. Yeah, please, aren't, please. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, just that we see that reflected all over our society, that ultimately what people are worried about more is a, than actual safety. And so over and over again, we see people choosing not to offend certain groups to placate certain politically correct theories about how society works, as opposed to look at how society is really working and taking action. And so a lot of people will notice,

for instance, that certain groups such as black Americans often commit higher crimes, but it is unfashionable to admit this and noticing that more of these people would go to jail should people be actually arrested and the law enforced means that we have to pull back on the actual crime enforcement. And I believe you've talked to Steve Saylor about this kind of impact that we see over again from kind of the perceptions our society has about how we should treat crime. And this is ultimately damaging people. So once again, like you said, we know how to solve this problem. It's not that crime is a mystery. We know what works. But we simply chose not to enforce it because ultimately crime is a policy choice. You can choose between actually enforcing

law, keeping people safe, and having a free and equal society in which you understand that ultimately some groups who commit more crimes may end up in jail more often, or you can play this game of obfuscating what's actually going on, being soft on these policies, ultimately hurting the very people who are contributing to society, just so you can please a bunch of people who ultimately probably aren't voting, aren't contributing, aren't being involved in the body politic anyway. Mike Cernovich had a phenomenal tweet last evening where MSNBC's up in arms and they're saying, oh, this is just a bunch of lies, D.C., you know, the crime is

coming down. Understand, it's down from record highs post-2020, but it's not down of where it was 20 years ago. But this is an open offer, and Sternovich was exactly right. For any member of the press, this shows the fraud that they are, why don't you go walk the Navy yard with a GoPro at midnight, no armed security, no weapons, and live stream what you see? why don't you go walk the Navy yard MSNBC any one of these members of the press you don't get any armored cars no police support just walk the streets show us how safe they are and then by the way you'll get big ratings expose the president's lies I could walk the streets of Tokyo at night when I walk the streets of Tokyo there'll be no thugs or gangbangers criminal members all these members of

the press this is the key they live in northern Virginia or Maryland why don't they just live over the Anacostia River. It's a lot closer to where they work. And of course, the key element of this is they're big talkers, but they even know how wildly undangerous Washington, D.C. has come. You mentioned something such as disparate impact. Aren, do you believe this idea of disparate impact that more black people might go to jail if you're tough on crime? Is that one of the modern original sins as to why we have allowed the country to descend into a more dangerous and at times third world unrecognizable environment. Oh, absolutely. And people have to understand that this is actually encoded into our law.

The Civil Rights Act originally was implemented with the idea that, of course, we wanted equal treatment for people of all races in the United States. But what quickly happened is that the courts develop this doctrine of disparate impact and the idea that if there's ever any difference between group outcomes, whether it be education or crime or anything else, that the only answer answer to that different result is racism. It's de facto racism. Even if you didn't mean to be racist, it means that you are racist. And this doctrine impacts everything in our society. The Sheets gas station lost a lawsuit against the federal government last year. They brought a civil rights lawsuit against this gas station because it was excluding people from employment due to background

checks. And more often than not, background checks that exclude people were excluding more black and other minority members during the selection process. So even though it was just a background check for criminal activity, because it disproportionately produced results that kept black Americans from getting jobs there, they lost the lawsuit. They were in violation of the Civil Rights Act. And this attitude impacts everything, our policing, our schools. I used to be a public school teacher.

I was in a majority minority school. And in that school, it was made very clear that we could not discipline or fail our students, because they were minority students, and disproportionately, that would show that we were racist, even though they were the majority of the student body. And it would simply make sense that more minority students were going to be failed or expelled in that environment. It didn't matter. So this doesn't just affect crime in D.C. This affects how your child is educated in the public school down the street.

The Civil Rights Act was a new founding where we decided to discard the U.S. Constitution and reconstitute the story, the mantra, the creed, in the vision of America. And you even see this in Republican circles as well. Well, they say, well, you know, the Civil Rights Act corrected a lot of the errors of the Constitution. No, it didn't. The Civil Rights Act was a completely new creation.

Of course, it was well intended by some. We have acknowledged that many times. But the Civil Rights Act at its core was a new founding. It was the discard what happened prior. The Constitution says people have equal rights. Imagine just treating people equally. The Civil Rights Act does not treat people equally because the legal theory under the Civil Rights Act is disparate impact. And so therefore you can't arrest a bunch of criminals in D.C.

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That is yerefy.com. Orrin McIntyre continues us. Orin, do you have a thought on the Civil Rights Act being the new American founding and how modern America is largely based on this idea of disparate impact, critical theory that has grown into all of our institutions going back to the Civil Rights Act. Yeah, it's absolutely wild what conservatives will allow under the name of the Civil Rights Act. Normally, we would recognize a program that basically had the legal right to go into every business, into every school, into every organization, and demand how they organize themselves, who they can. can hire, how they can do business. We would recognize that as a Soviet-style engineering program,

a social engineering program from the top down. And yet we allow this because we've basically adopted Civil Rights Act as our second constitution. We like to think that ultimately whatever tradeoffs were giving one of their freedom are okay because at the end of the day, they're bringing about a harmonious society. But of course, when the Civil Rights Act was originally sold, the idea was this was a temporary measure. We had had an unfair system that had targeted black Americans in a way that we found ultimately morally reprehensible and we needed to make big changes. But the funny thing about all government programs is they never sunset, they never go away. And so even though after decades and decades of having its thumb on the scales,

we haven't seen a vast improvement in the African American community's situation. In fact, in many ways we've seen it degrade due to the Civil Rights Act, despite that we continue to say the only option is to pour more and more effort into this. And each time we're giving away different freedoms and giving the government a blank check to involve itself in all of our lives. Think about the ways in which the Civil Rights Act was abused with all of the trans and all the gender madness, the way that they can be used to pressure all of these different organizations to take action. This is, again, a blank check for government power that Republicans would never allow in any other situation, but have embraced because they're so terrified of being

called racist because if you point out that this program has run its course and the government no longer needs this power, we're not going to go back to Jim Crow tomorrow if it was repealed and yet we continue to act as if it's necessary for we to have like a Stasi-like control over race relations in the United States. Look, the importance here is this is a big opportunity if we can lower crime. This can be a test case for the rest of the country. What needs to happen for that to occur in Washington, D.C.? Well, the big bold decision here, is important, but like all leaders who make big, bold decisions, Donald Trump has to deliver. We have to see a significant change in the safety in Washington, D.C. Now, he's putting National Guard

troops on the ground. He's federalizing control of the police. And if they can change the way that they do their job, if they can make their presence known, if they can police communities that otherwise were off limits, if they can actually carry out their jobs, that's a huge deal. but also, of course, the prosecution is a big deal. The fact that we don't actually put people in jail, we don't give them appropriate charges, we make sweetheart deals. These things also help to facilitate crime in the area.

You're now basically own the safety in Washington, D.C., which, again, could be a huge political liability if you don't follow through, but can be a massive victory if you do. So Donald Trump has taken a bold step here. He's taken on big responsibilities. That's what great leaders do, but great leaders also have to follow through. And so he can't get cold feet on this, of course.

He needs to make sure that he is using that power, using that authority to increase the safety in Washington, D.C. And I haven't been there many times, but a few times that I have, let me tell you, I really wish there would have been more police on the street. I think this is ultimately going to be a popular move. I hope so. And I would say that the challenge in front of the Trump administration is going to be both a show of force, but also tangibly being able to connect the show of force with a reduction in crime. And honestly, I don't think we should put up with these Blue City hellholes. Final thoughts, Aaron McIntyre, what do you have to say to people that say that we should forget the Blue Cities and retreat away from them? Look, ultimately, I think there is some

level of self-sorting that is occurring in the United States. I live in Florida where a lot of people fled during the COVID madness because they wanted to live in a state that was sane. and wouldn't steal their freedoms due to this biomedical tyranny. But at the same time, we have to recognize that blue cities are some of our most important cultural and economic production spots in the United States. And the real problem with blue cities is that they're run by the Democrats and obviously are soft on the populations that might be creating crime there. And so something that has to change ultimately is that these guys can't be allowed to continue

these policies that are destroying some of our most important cities and states. Now, Trump has already talked about the possibility of expanding this program beyond Washington, D.C. That has a whole other mess of legal categories that you have to deal with. Obviously, the president has far more direct power over Washington, D.C., do the constitutional setup there. However, if you see big success here in Washington, D.C., I think a lot of people might start asking questions like, why aren't we doing the Chicago? Why are we doing this in New York? Why are we allowing this crime when we know how to fix it? It can be a template for the rest of the nation.

Aaron McIntyre, thank you so much. Thank you. Thanks so much for listening. Everybody, email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening, and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.