The Charlie Kirk Show - Lessons from Asia + What's Wrong with Gen Z Women?

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

Charlie is back from a quick visit to South Korea and Japan. He describes what he saw (or rather, didn't see) on the streets of Seoul and Tokyo, and how it contrasts with the dangers lurking on the buses and trains of American cities. He responds to the horrifying murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska, and analyzes jarring polling numbers about what young American women care about more than marriage or children. Vivek Ramaswamy, Sen. Rick Scott, Megan Basham, and Alex Marlow all join. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey everybody. Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio. I'm back from Asia. That's right. I went to South Korea and Japan and I have a lot to share. What did I learn in South Korea and Japan? We share some amazing lessons that I think you'll really enjoy. We also have Alex Marlow on the program of Vake Ramoswamy, Senator Rick Scott, Megan Basham. We talk about the terrible crime that's happened in Charlotte. And also a new shocking poll. Why is it that women who voted for Harris, the least important thing for them is having children. But also, what if I told you the women that voted for Trump, they also don't want kids? Women just don't want kids in America. It's a national crisis. Women should want children. It's good for them and it's good for America. We discuss.

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I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job. Building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not.

the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts, and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers. I am back fresh from Asia on Wednesday evening once we feel. finished the program. I boarded a quite long flight from Los Angeles all the way to Seoul, South Korea. I was there to first speak at an event called Build Up Korea. I learned a lot while I was in Korea, and we're going to be talking about that throughout the program. We also have

Vivek Ramoswamy and Senator Rick Scott joining us in just a minute. I learned a lot. And this event, Build Up Korea, was basically a America Fest, a Amfest carbon copy. It was so much, it was, it learned that people really love Turning Point U.S.A aesthetics. Look at that. That's not a turning point event. That's not Student Action Summit. That is Build Up Korea. And I was thrilled. I'd call it Korea Fest, but it was practically just America Fest. They love America, whether it be the pyrotechnics, the lights, the intro videos. It was basically a exactly what we have proven to be successful at America Fest they brought to Korea. It was really something to be able to meet with the South Korean patriots.

Their country is totally under attack. We're going to talk about this a little bit later in the hour. The ruling party is arresting pastors, going after political dissidents, and South Korea, which is an American protectorate, is quickly becoming a less and less free country. South Korea has a ton of problems. They have the worst birth rate in the world. They have the highest plastic surgery rate in the world, and those two things really should not be the same.

If you think about it, if you've really high plastic surgery, shouldn't people want to also then be simultaneously, be getting married and having children? That's something worth exploring. So we spent some time in South Korea, and I have a ton to share with that. Then I went to Tokyo and spoke with the San Sito Party, which is a populist nationalist party that is rising up in Japan,

all about kicking foreigners out of Japan, because now there are over three million foreigners in Japan that are very quietly and secretly finding themselves into Japanese life. They want to erase, replace, and eradicate Japan by bringing in Indonesians, by bringing in Arabs, by bringing in Muslims. The same things that we have been fighting for here, whether it be lawfare in South Korea or mass migration in Japan, this is a worldwide phenomenon. But the thing that was the most striking, and it connects with the news today in America, the thing that is the most incredible is what happens when you walk outside of your hotel in South Korea.

I got up quite early the next day. I mean, your body clock gets all messed up in trips like this. So the fact I slept seven hours and woke up at 530 locals, like an accomplishment. Usually, if you're coming from America, you wake up at 2 or 3 a.m. and you're all messed up. So I woke up at 5.30, and I said, I'm going to go get a cup of tea and go explore the city. And I did by myself. And it was amazing. As soon as you walk out of the hotel, there's no bums.

There's no people asking you for money. They don't really put up with graffiti at all. This is the streets of Seoul, South Korea. And I walked, I walked six miles all throughout downtown Seoul, South Korea. And it's a pretty amazing thing, whether it be walking through public, transportation, whether they're walking through public parks. Everything is clean, orderly. They take pride and responsibility over their public spaces. In fact, Blake and I, one evening, Blake said, Charlie, I have to show you the subway station. I said the subway station. I said,

Blake is that safe? And Blake chuckled. He said, safe? The whole country is safe. I said, Why is that? He said, well, they don't bring third world people and put up with 14 repeat career criminal offenders. Here's just one little taste. This is Blake and I in the subway station, not actually on the subway itself, in Seoul, South Korea. Playcut 284. This is immaculate compared to what we're used to, right? This is unbelievable. Wait, so this is a subway, Blake? You're kidding me.

Use this card and you would scan in with it. It's only about a buck every time you get on. Maybe a buck 20. All right, where are we going? This way in the box. Do they have restrooms down here? Um, they probably do, although I've never used one. One of these things here.

Oh, this is a crane game. Like, is it all rigged? Yeah, something like that. It's all. Oh, they do have rich. Okay, yeah, great. The video goes on for quite the video goes on for quite some time.

The amount of filth, crime, and violence that we put up is insane. I remember I asked someone at my hotel, like the doorman concierge. I said, hey, is it safe to be here in South Korea? And he didn't speak great English. She said, safe? Like, what do you mean? safe. Are you worried about getting mugged or things getting stolen? He said, oh, no, no, no, things are safe in your room. I like, no, I got that. But like, you know, walking the streets of Seoul, like,

and I was trying to, of course, overcome the language barrier. You know, are, are you worried that if you're on a bus or a subway, something is going to happen to you? Have, like a car accident? No, like, are you worried that someone's going to come and do something? do something like it was it was it was as if i was communicating not just a different language but a different planetary reality that someone would feel unsafe in a major city like so south korea now we are a wealthier country than south korea we founded south korea which i will talk about later this hour thanks to the heroism of general macarthur and now as i'm coming back from as i'm looking what's happening in washington dc chicago and of course the breaking news

of this new footage we have of the stabbing murder of the 23-year-old Ukrainian refugee Irene Zarutzka, a young white lady who was stabbed to death by a black criminal by a complete stranger on a train in Charlotte. Now, you might have not seen this footage yet. This is becoming national news and the left is doing everything they possibly can not to talk about it. The media is very uncomfortable about this story. If you watch this video, this guy was sitting, minding his own, she was minding her own business. He was minding her own business. She was also dressed in like baggy clothes, comes up, takes out a knife, stabs her to death. Fourteen times he was previously arrested. One four times. Fourteen times he comes up and

just stabs her to death. Situations like this are a nearly daily occurrence in our cities. And I'm coming back from two nations, Japan and South Korea, that are poorer than us, that are not as populous as us. And their cities are not just safer. They're are different planetary realities, as if I went to Saturn and we live on Mars, we do not have to live this way. You can create a society in a culture where you can get on a train or a subway and not be arena Zerutska and get stabbed to death in the neck because some black criminal decides, I'm just going to go do it. 14 times he was previously arrested. And all of the Koch Brother funded liberal criminal justice BS is the reason why guys like him are still

on the streets. Fourteen times. Let's put this back up on screen. And Arena Zarutzko, why did she come to America? She was fleeing violence in Ukraine. It turns out it's more dangerous and subways in Charlotte, North Carolina, than a war zone in Ukraine. The Associated Press wrote zero stories about this over the weekend. PBS, New York Times, NPR, Wall Street Journal, BBC, CNN, Washington Post, Reuters, MSNBC, zero stories. Now they're finally fixing that, but the stories they're writing like this repulsive. headline from Axios this morning. The gruesome attack of the fatal knife attack in Arena Zarutka on a light car rail in Charlotte

has MAGA influencers seeking to elevate the issue of violent urban crime. Oh, this is all about MAGA influencers now? Oh, it's not the fact that a white Ukrainian refugee was murdered just because she was white. Everybody knows that, obviously. Stabbed to death. And by the way, the other sick part, which has now become the new urban way, everyone just kind of sat around and didn't administer first aid for 90 seconds. Just glued to their phones. We don't have to live this way. She survived a war, but couldn't survive progressive criminal justice reform.

The focus of our leaders trying to say, well, we need criminal justice reform. We need more people in jail. We do not have enough people in prison in America. We do not have enough people in jail. We don't have enough people that are arrested on the side of the streets. That is a constant theme of this program. We're going to repeat this throughout the hour. The Charlotte criminal had passed convictions for armed robbery, felony, larceny, breaking and entering and shoplifting. He should have just been in jail for his entire life. They vilified three strike laws, but we shouldn't let them. They work. We need to arrest more people. We need more criminals. We need less accommodating criminals, and we need bigger prisons. We need to fill them up with

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Oracle is a very, very impressive company. See if your company qualifies for this special offer at oracle.com slash Kirk. That is oracle.com slash Kirk. Email us, as always, Freedom at Charliekirk.com. Vivek Ramoswamy and Senator Rick Scott join us. Two great men who are in New York City right now trying to warn about Zoran Mamdani and what he represents. Welcome to you both.

Vive, I want to start with you. Vivek, this attack in North Carolina was obviously preventable. There's a racial component to this as well, which is a black criminal, which assaults and stabs a white woman to death. And the media wouldn't be bothered when George Floyd overdosed on the side of the street in Minneapolis. Everyone decided this was the most important thing since Pearl Harbor. Vivek Ramoswamy, you're running for governor of Ohio. what are your thoughts of this situation, more broadly, the crime issue in America? Yeah, look, I mean, what happened in Charlotte's unconscionable,

but at the same time, we wouldn't be talking about it here if it were just a one-off. This is part of a national pattern. You look at my hometown of Cincinnati. Look at the incidents of just a few weeks ago. We share some of the same dimensions you just described Charlie. You look at what's happening in places like New York City, where I am with Senator Scott today, to L.A. this is something that represents a broader breakdown of respect for the rule of law in the country. And, you know, in this broader conversation about who are we as Americans, that's a core

part of who we are as Americans, is we believe in the rule of law. That's part of what founded this country and the degradation of the respect for the rule of law, I think is almost even more frightening than any one individual incident. And that's what we're going to have to turn around. Frankly, Ohio, where I'm looking to govern, we've got, we're a state of cities. You've got Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Toledo, Akron, Youngstown. It's sad to watch the cities in the heartland of the country to our coasts go down the tubes, but the good news is we know how to solve the problem. You were talking about some of it. Bring back actually sentencing standards that reflect the standards of the crimes. Bail should not be granted to somebody who is a

repeat offender with ease and with, you know, smooth as water now for many of these people to get back out. Juvenile crime is a major issue after the COVID school closures, deal with the juvenile courts even for people who are older juveniles in ways that actually recognize violent offenders and even would be criminals for what they are. Common sense, but what we're missing is leaders with the spine to see it through. That's a big part of why I'm running in Ohio. We're going to get it done in Ohio. And frankly, if places like New York or otherwise fail, we need bastions like Ohio, like Florida, like it's been in the past, for people to actually pack their bags and move. And that's what we're creating. Senator Rick Scott from Florida is with us. Senator Scott,

What is your take on this situation, and I do want to talk about New York here, but what can the U.S. I mean, acting as if the U.S. Senate's going to do anything, unfortunately, is laughable because, I mean, not you, but your colleagues are quite lazy. But theoretically, what could the U.S. Senate do to prevent repeat offenders like this from prowling our streets? Well, first off, you know, your heart goes out to this lady's family. I mean, I mean, you just imagine sitting on a train, all right? And then all of a sudden, some guy starts stabbing you and killing you. I mean, if you think, you know, I mean, Charlie, this bothers me so much. You know, the biggest thing you can do, and I've got, look, I have two daughters. I have seven grandkids is you can't imagine anybody in your family in that situation. So what we've got to do at every level of government, whatever we can do at the federal level,

whatever we can do at the state level, whatever we can do at the local level, we have to enforce our laws. We've got to put criminals in prison. and they need to serve their entire sentence, right? We cannot be soft on crime. I mean, I want my family to be safe. I want your family to be safe and the Vex family to be safe. So what can this, what can the citizen do is for federal crimes, right?

For federal crimes, make sure the sentences are stiff and people serve their time. On top of that, we need to help our local law enforcement every way we can. I'm very appreciate what the president has done in D.C. What this guy's done, I mean, D.C. is a place where I didn't want to walk around. Nobody wanted to walk around in D.C. It's not safe to walk around in D.C. What he's done in D.C. is he's made a place that you can walk around now. There's way more people outside now walk around in D.C. than there was before the President brought in the National Guard. But every mayor, every governor, and we've got to all say, this is the most important thing we ought to be doing right now.

Keep people alive. Keep people safe. Senator, why are you in New York? What is the significance of your trip? Well, what I'm trying, what Vivek and I are trying to do is give people in New York enough information to make better decisions. This idea that the center of capitalism, New York City is going to elect a socialist that wants to defund the police, eliminate opportunity, open up a city-run grocery store, is okay, is anti-Semitic. I mean, it's just, I mean, socialism is horrible. for everybody.

So what we're trying to appear to do is just get people to think about this race and how bad it's going to be for New York City. Now, more people are going to move to Florida, right? More people are going to move to Ohio, right? But, you know, is it good for the people that are stuck in New York? No, it's not good for the people that suck. It's bad for a country that the center of capitalism has somebody that wants to get rid of the police. They're going to continue to make under socialism.

This place will be, New York City will be an impossible place other than for billionaires. What he's going to do on housing, he wants to put a cap on rent. Well, that means if you own the building, are you going to put any more capital in? So I lived in public housing, grown up. Who grows up to, who grows up in public housing? Boy, this is where I want to be the rest of our life, right? Public housing doesn't work. So long term.

And this place is going to become a disaster. It's going to be scary to be in New York City. And so I hope they come to their sentence and elect a capitalist. Vivek, it looks as if the odds on favor are that Zoran is going to win. Why is that? I mean, you are a political expert in some ways. You've run for president. You're going to be the governor of Ohio.

What is the appealing element of Zoran Mamdani? Well, you and I talked about this when you visited Ohio, Charlie, which was a great visit you had. I mean, I think that part of this is a wake-up call also. so for Republicans, to understand we can't just sweep the issues he's talking about under the rug. It's that his solutions are completely airbrained. But you think about the affordability crisis, it is real, especially for a lot of young people. Think about home ownership, getting outside the reach of being able to afford as a 30 or 35-year-old, even if you're working hard and playing by the rules.

Is that a real problem? Yes, it is. But how are we going to fix it? It isn't through rent controls. It's through increasing the supply of housing, cutting through the red tape that stops new home construction, land use restrictions that stop new home construction. That's the kind of solutions that we need to be talking about. And so I do think it's a kind of wake up call for Republicans.

The same thing. What's the difference between the wealthy and everybody else? I mean, we're sitting here in New York City today, but across the country, including New York City. What's the difference between wealthy and anybody else? Whether you own an asset that compounds, you've got to get that started at a young age. Young people are going to turn towards socialism if they feel like they don't have skin in the game. Like they feel like they don't actually own assets that they watch somebody else becoming a billionaire off of. But the better solution to that is let's start with financial literacy.

Let's start with parents putting away $10,000 in the S&P 500 at a young age. Every kid is going to be a millionaire. If every parent does that for their kid on the day they're born, and is there a role for the government to play to potentially create incentives in that? I'm open to it. And so I think we've got to think about the future of capitalism, which I embrace wholeheartedly. I think it's the best system known to the history of man to live people up from poverty, and we shouldn't apologize for it. But how do we create capitalism that everybody's actually able to enjoy the upside of?

And I think that increases our long-run commitments to capitalism rather than socialism. And that's the conversation we need to be having on the right as well. And so, you know, as Senator Scott said, we're here to inform people, hey, hopefully they can vote for the right person in the ballot box. But if not, inform them of alternatives. come to Ohio. When I'm governor, frankly, you've got a lot of conservative-minded, common sense, rational, patriotic people in New York. Yes, they do exist in big numbers. And many of them are going to, unfortunately, have to choose to leave. And I want them to come to places like Ohio where I'm leading, hopefully, back to the leadership position of the country. But when we think about the country as a whole, one of our learnings as conservatives, as Republicans, is that we too ought to be talking about the affordability crisis because we're the ones that actually have the solutions to address it. But that's what we've got to step up and do instead of just sweeping it under the rug, especially for young people who I think are really tuned into these questions of participating

in the upside of capitalism and affordability, which I'm all in favor of. Vivek, just give our audience a quick update. How are things going on your very important campaign in Ohio? And then I want to segue more to some tape here of Zoron. Yeah, look, things are going well in Ohio running unopposed in the Republican primary. And what should be a red state. This is the cycle that solidifies whether Ohio is a red state or not. And I think that we want to permanently solidify that in the midterm year of Trump's second term. But one of the things I'm most focused on that's resonating is educational reform, bringing standards to our public schools. And frankly, Charlie, a lot of people even who are

independents, even former Democrats are coming our way for that issue alone. So I'm excited on bringing some of those reforms, bring down property taxes while improving education. People in Ohio, thankfully they're loving that, and I'm hopeful we're going to be successful. Let's go to this cut right here. This is O'Rond Mom Donnie. He says he's a transformed man, play cut 299. Many of my opponents, chiefly Andrew Cuomo, would prefer to debate a mythical version of myself than the person that I actually am. They would prefer to focus on tweets from 2020 as opposed to the platform of 2025. What you're really saying is that those tweets of 2020, you've evolved from that, you've changed them that, you've changed your views.

Yes, that those are out of step with the campaign that we are running. And it's been clear throughout it. But they're out of step with how you feel. Yes. So you've totally changed your mind. Yes. Okay. Senator Rick Scott, is he a changed man?

What a joke. What a joke. I mean, listen to what people say. I mean, this is what the guy believes. He believes in his heart. Oh, but it won't work for a campaign. He did a poll. That won't work for the campaign.

So don't trust you. No, don't worry about what I said before. and how I've acted in my life, look at what I'm running on because that's all I want you to think about. Now I'll go back to where I really am as soon as I get elected. I mean, what a joke. Don't trust somebody like that. By the way, if he can take, oh, I love the police today, but I hate him yesterday and you trust him, you have to be an idiot to believe that. So Vivek, let's play another piece of tape here. Let's go to cut 305. We've seen that Donald Trump use the law as a suggestion. You believe that it's something that he's above, and what he's showing is that he's willing to utilize any

tool, whether those real or imagined, to try and shape this race. We're confident that no matter what formulation this race takes, whether it's me versus three candidates or me one-on-one with any one of them, who will win the race. But what we cannot stand is the affront to democracy and the idea that it is a president who can pick the next mayor of the city and not the people in that same city. Vivek, your response? Well, look, I mean, he's usually, he's using this to his advantage. He's clearly a skilled politician. He has a completely boneheaded wrong policy ideas, but he's trying to use everything in his favor to really go to the New York electorate and they're putting him into office. And frankly, that's the dominant odds of what's going to happen.

But the bigger picture of forget the horse race of this particular mayoral election, I do think that sometimes, sadly, a country, a great nation like ours, needs to actually learn the lessons of what the alternative looks like. And unfortunately, if he is elected, which I'm not rooting for. But if he is elected, let us at least use it as a country to learn the lesson. The best way to combat the popularity of socialism is probably for people to try what the fruits of socialist policy really are. That's probably what's coming to New York City if he's elected. The good news is we still have our system of federalism. People can pack their bags and move. Like I said, before I'll say it again, we're going to make Ohio a haven for people who share the

values of this country, including capitalism, to come thrive. But every once in a while, there comes a time where if people really lose their way, Thomas Jefferson said it well, the government we elect is the government we deserve. And if that's what New York City elects, then in some sense it's a lesson that deserves to be learned for the country. And I hope some good still comes out of it. So I'm not rooting for that outcome, but if that's where we're headed, frankly, I don't think engineering some other alternative outcome is the answer.

It's actually true learnings of the deep lessons underneath. And just think about the sad reality also that the entire country, even meeting old friends in New York City who would have never voted for Andrew Cuomo in years are now praying that it's Andrew Cuomo. I mean, look at where we are. He's a guy who got rid of cash bail. He's a guy who was opposed to fracking, who was against nuclear energy, and he is somehow the savior that everyone is praying and hoping for. Think about where we are and what that says about where New York City is and in some measure, even where certain directions of our country's currents are headed. We've got to turn that ship around in a bigger way. And I think it's

going to be deeper than just, you know, messing around with the horse racing of this particular election in one mayor of one city that matters. This is a symptom of a deeper issue in our country. And I think the only way we're going to get around it is reviving the ideals that made our country great the first time. Meritocracy, the pursuit of greatness, the rule of law, bring it back, don't apologize. That's who we are. And I think that's really the moral of the story at the end of this. Senator Scott, final thoughts on Zonron mom, Donnie, who looks to continue to be on pace to be the next mayor of New York City? I don't know one person that's moved from Venezuela, that's a socialist.

I don't know. One person that's moved from Cuba in Florida, that's a socialist. So people have lived under socialism, no, it's really bad. Ultimately, it only ends up in everybody being broke. And so if you want people to have the opportunity like, Vecad, I had, you had to live our dream, it's all tied to capitalism. and it's all tied to opportunity and freedom. So I hope New York comes to their census.

I hope this doesn't happen to them. But there's going to be bastions of opportunity, and that's going to be Ohio and Florida. Senator Rick Scott and Vivek Ramaswamy, thank you so much and keep up the great work. Thank you both. Bye-bye. Thanks.

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You have 35% off plus a free bottle of fiber and spice. The other component of the Mamdani thing is that he's a foreigner. He's obviously not an American. We've said that repeatedly on this program. And that ties into the second part of my trip to when I went to Japan. I think we can all agree that if 10 million Pakistanis went to Japan, they don't become Japanese. Japan is a very unique country. And objectively, Tokyo might have been the most impressive city I've ever visited from how clean it is,

from how seriously even the just everyday workers take their job. The bus drivers wear white gloves, they bow. when you go on, they take their little job so seriously. But there is an effort underway in Japan, as there was a big effort underway in Europe in our country to bring in a bunch of foreigners and to say, well, you know, they're Japanese too. Japan could maybe assimilate 10 Pakistanis or 100 if they didn't take any more right away, but a million. And we know they're not assimilating at that point.

And we saw a little bit, you know, just a little bit in Tokyo, you know, Muhammad in there, Muhammad in here. Like, ooh, that's interesting. I didn't know I was in Paris. I didn't know I was in London. But the point is this, and this ties with Zohran Mamdani. If you do not have a picture of national identity, then you're going to be in a lot of trouble. Now, America's picture of national identity is different than Japan's.

Japan is tied to their ethnicity, and that's okay. It works for them. And it's unbelievably impressive. We have a different picture of national identity. We are, of course, a people and also a propositional nation. We're both. Japan is something different, though, and they should be allowed to be different. Japan is not a propositional nation.

Japan is a people. They are an ethnicity. They're a genealogy. And it's worked incredibly well for them. They are one of the oldest and greatest cultures and civilizations. Isn't it so striking that the globalist forces, they want to try to destroy. destroy any culture, any city that is working and functioning. So there's a major movement in Japan.

It's called the Sanseido Party that is ascendant, and they are calling out the private, quiet infiltration of foreigners into Japanese society. And I'm cheering them on because here I am, as an American, wanting Japan to remain Japanese. It would be a, it would be a demerit for the planet. It would be a demerit for the world if all of a sudden Japan fell the same way. that Paris fell. And they do things differently. They're not a Christian nation. They are a Shinto nation. They are one that has traditions in Japanese culture and the samurai and duty and honor. And I think that's awesome. In fact, dare I say, I actually want the diversity amongst nations.

Our national identity changed after the second great immigration wave of the 1910s and 1920s. But we are still a nation founded on Christian European settlers with norms and customs, and faith emanating from Western civilization from Christian civilization. And you shouldn't want to change America and you shouldn't want to change Japan because we already know what has happened when you change Paris and you change London. National populism is a check against globalists. And we shouldn't go impose into Tokyo being like, well, Tokyo, you guys are too Asian. Let's just apply, by the way, let's apply the left-wing framework.

What's so interesting is, do you know they're calling Japanese racist for not wanting to take immigrants. Oh, you're racist because you don't want to take a bunch of Arabs in your country. You're racist because you don't want to take a bunch of Indonesians in your country. And Japanese are like, racist? What do you wonder? What does this word even mean? What do you mean? It is a purely Western moral framework that we're overlaying against a multi-thousan-year great civilization. So here, we as Westerners, we can't help but be, you know, somewhat colonialist and imperialist. So left-wing imperialist colonist forces are coming in and scolding Japanese politicians for not taking immigration.

And honestly, Japan does not want to commit political and cultural suicide, and we commend them for that. Japan should close its borders. Japan should say, nope, we're going to figure out our birth rate problem, which the Japanese birth rate problem is bad, but it's not as bad as Korea's. Left-wing colonialism equals open borders. It is a soft form of imperialism. And I saw it firsthand, because the country works. It is an objectively functioning country. It is not South Africa. It is not Angola.

It is not Bangladesh. You don't have to go in search of a solution. Like, well, we have major problems in Tokyo. And by the way, how often do you hear from politicians here in America? We'll be very careful. We might end up like Japan. End up like Japan? You mean where you can ride the subway that's being stabbed in the neck?

Where everything works and the streets are clean and people are polite? Yes, Japan has issues. And I'm going to talk about that throughout. the program, by the way, which is that there are problems in Asia that I'm glad that we actually have a different diamondism, a different energy, a different entrepreneurial spirit that you don't have there. And I think that's significantly lacking. But they have a stable, orderly, beautiful, lasting society. And that's a really important thing. And not only that, I felt welcome. I felt honored. I felt received. But we should keep Japan, Japanese. And people

say, well, Charlie, they have gun laws. Well, before they have gun laws, they have third world laws. You don't need all these gun laws if you, you don't, it's okay if everybody owns guns, if you don't have a bunch of third worlders coming into your nation that don't abide them and then commit a lot of crimes. Japan has a high trust society. So to South Korea. And they do not have a massive influx of foreigners that are constantly changing. and eroding the trust structure. Now, in Japan, not only are they tough on crime. They have the death penalty, and their jails are really intense.

And one of the aspects that I think that was so telling of the entire trip is that it shows that we in America have actually done the hard things, but it's the very simple things. Crime is not hard to solve. You just have to stand up to the. Democrat, soft on crime, you know, open prison, prison reform nonsense. You need political willpower to be perfectly honest with you. And far too often, we as Americans, we put up with stuff we shouldn't. Now, the left say, well, gun laws are why Asia is so safe. Now, mind you, I'm not even getting into the fact that the no gun crime. How does the law,

left then explain the no muggings, the no stabbings, the no graffings, the no graffiti, the no homeless, and the no bums. How do you explain that? Let me tell you right now, Japan has no lack of knives, you're on any sushi restaurant, they're everywhere. And they say, well, strict gun laws equal nice stuff and no crime. It is a complete misnomer. No, they have high trust society is what they have. Anyway, so let's go to another thing here. Okay, let's play cut 285. Okay, everybody. I'm here in Seoul, South Korea. As you could see, everyone, they have these like inflatable cushy chairs. Everyone is reading. This would last about 35 seconds in most American cities. You can have nights, you can have nice stuff. Crime is a choice. We shouldn't put up with it. South Korea doesn't. We should neither. This video really bothered the left. It went completely viral. And they said, oh, the cushy chairs are there because they have gun, crime. No, it's actually nothing new with gun crime at all, actually. It's that they have a high

trust society. They don't have a city that is littered with third world foreigners. They don't put up with homeless people and they don't put up with crime. They have community. They have people that trust each other. They speak the same language, actually. Unlike our nation, we're a country increasingly of foreigners. I mean, of gun control, not gun crime. It's not an issue of gun control. And the other takeaway when it comes to a high trust, society is you must have a serious picture of national identity. We do not have a picture of and it's again, I'm not saying it's racial. It is racial in South Korea and Japan. They've decided to govern that way. And it's actually a really nice place to live. I'm not even prescribing that to the

United States of America. We have a different mission statement. We are both a people and a proposition. Some people don't like that we're a proposition, but part of our national compact is propositional. It's not simply just a people. But if you are only a propositional people and you are not a people at all. If you're just a proposition and not a people, you don't have a nation. If you're just an idea, I used to believe this garbage like 10 years ago. America is just an idea. Not true. By the way, let's just put 312 B-roll. These are just pictures of luggage sitting unattended outside convenience stores in South Korea. Let me show this to you. Do you think this is anything to do with gun control? People just leave their stuff out and open outside of a convenience

store in South Korea. Look at that. You just leave your luggage. You're going to go shopping. You just leave your stuff. No one's going to take it. Literally, we were at the South Creek Airport. And Blake and I walked around. I was like, Blake, where's your bag? He's like, oh, I left it at the airport. I left it at the gate. So what do you mean? He's like, yeah, no one's going to take it. You just leave your stuff laying around. Does gun control of anything with that? Is that anything to do with gun control to the American left? No. It's about a high trust society. You just leave your bags around. No one cares. It's just no one, because no one's going to take it. It's a civilized society. We could live this way. We decide not to. We decide to live in

this high crime infested, violent third world place. And again, we are the greatest nation ever, but this is a problem. We shouldn't have to live when it comes to crime. These are basic quality of life issues. Where you're going to just have a big roller bag. We're like, yeah, I'm just going to leave it out here. I don't need to guard it. They don't have an attendant. They don't know a security guard. They have one thing that we do not have. They have a high trust society. We should try to restore it. Private student loan debt in America totals about $300 billion. About $45 billion of that is labeled as distressed. Why Refi refinances distress or defaulted private student loans that others will not touch. They provide you with a custom loan payment based on your ability to pay. Go to

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Refi.com. Joining us now is Megan Basham, author of Shepherds for Sale and Daily Wire Culture Reporter. Megan, I'm so glad to have you on here. You live in Charlotte where the killing of Arena Zarutzka occurred, who was an incredible person. A Ukrainian refugee comes to America and was murdered in cold blood for no reason, a senseless killing by a black person. if a random white person simply walked up to and stabbed a nice law abiding black person for no reason, it would be an apocalyptic huge national story used to impose national sweeping political changes on the whole country.

Instead, Megan Basham, no one seems to care when a white woman gets stabbed to her death. Why is that? Yeah, that was pretty shocking to go, you know, for two weeks now, none of our major media outlets have covered her at all, not one word. They finally started to cover her a little bit this morning, but only because of the massive public shaming, because this video was so very shocking. And what I really want to emphasize here, Charlie, is that this is not a dangerous part of town where Zerutska was killed. It's a very lovely, popular part of town, bustling restaurants, trendy restaurants, boutiques. My family and I go there frequently on the weekend. So this was an area where you will see families on the weekend. And she's a young woman 23 years old, a refugee, getting off work at a pizzeria and gets onto that light rail.

So, you know, the initial reaction of our Democrat mayor was appalling. She said that she didn't mention Arena Zarutka at all in her initial statement. Instead, what she called for was compassion for the perpetrator, who she said is suffering from mental illness just like cancer or heart disease. So we're supposed to have empathy for him as some sort of victim. she said that we cannot arrest our way to safety, which is, of course, ridiculous. Yes, we can. If we put people behind bars when they're a public threat, we can have safe public streets. But, you know, just to go a little bit more into the weeds on this, I want to let you know that our current governor, who was then Attorney General, his response has also been appalling.

So back in 2020, within two weeks of George Floyd's murder, he had not only issued public lament, Well, I think at this point we can say it was not a murder, but he issued public lament over George, right, over George Floyd's death and instituted a new task force for racial equity in criminal justice system. So he initiated an entire task force for George Floyd's death, but it took him longer to acknowledge Irina Zerutska's death. It took him two more days than it did to acknowledge George Floyd, even though this happened in his own state where he had. governor. So if you look back at what that task force that he implemented in 2020 did, they specifically called for more lenient pre-release policies, meaning they wanted low bail or no bail for minority offenders. They also called for decriminalizing homelessness and quote-unquote public behavior, meaning being a public menace on the streets. So these were the very policies

that allowed this perpetrator to Carlos Brown to be on the streets. He did, in fact, receive pre-trial release back in January on his most recent arrest because he's been arrested 14 times before, including for grand larceny and breaking and entering and assault with a deadly weapon. And almost every time, he has been released and given fines and community service and probation. He has not been behind bars where he belongs. And so these were the direct policies that came out of that racial equity task force.

I have so many questions here. So let me just ask a micro question. Has this been talked a lot about in local communities in Charlotte, North Carolina? Are people understanding the racial element here that a random black guy murdered a white woman? Is it shocking the community? Walk us through what's happening locally here, because I would imagine it should be. Yeah, I think it is. One of the things you're hearing is that this was a light rail that we all felt.

perfectly safe using just a few years ago, and we don't feel that way anymore. Because of these policies, you are suddenly seeing an increase in homelessness in the Charlotte area. You know, we came here in 2016, and when we first got here, you really didn't see panhandlers, public disturbances on the street. You see that now when you go into our uptown metro areas. And so I think so many people are feeling that. And when you look at the increasing rates of crime in Charlotte, you can trace it back to 2020. So our last homicide high was in 2020 when the Black Lives Matter riots were occurring on our streets. And the second high of homicide rates in Charlotte were now 2024. So we don't have it for 2025 yet. But for 2024, when they were up 25% from the year

before, when these racial equity policies started taking effect. So yes, I think people are very much waking up to the fact that, you know, all of these sort of Black Lives Matter, DEI pushed policies are having a direct impact on our safety because the argument was, for the sake of racial equity, we need to not jail black offenders. We need to give them fines and probation. And look, Charlie, this guy's mother, DeCarlis Brown's own mother, tried to get him involuntarily committed.

She has said he was not safe to be on the streets. and she actually tried to do something because she knew he was a threat. And instead, we have a criminal justice system here that was sold out to social justice instead of actual justice. So now I want to transition to the Christian element here. So you have a great book, Shepherds for sale. You've also called out all the wokeism stuff. Has Stephen Furtick, whatever his name is, spoken out against this? Because he was really big elevation church, big BLM guy about George Floyd.

Has Stephen Ferdick, the popular. megachurch pastor, has he spoken out against the black criminal who killed a white woman on a bus? Because he's in Charlotte. You know, I haven't specifically checked on what Stephen Ferdick has said, but it feels like if he did speak out, that would certainly be something making news in our area. And I have heard nothing about that. In fact, I have heard nothing from many of the... Weird. That's strange. Yes, from the social justice pastors who are very popular in this area. Derwin Gray is another. I have heard nothing from him. And so you have so many... of these church leaders who got on board with Black Lives Matter. They got on board with these

DEI policies. And now they have suddenly very much backed away from quote-unquote political issues now that we're starting to see the fruit of what these policies have borne. And it is actually the innocent citizens of North Carolina who are bearing the brunt of these policies. Why is it that pastors were so quick to talk about the drug overdose of George Floyd, but they won't talk about this? Well, I think it's pretty obvious why. At that time, there was a desire to curry favor with the progressive wing to be winsome. And so that's why they really want to appeal to the, I would say, the elite class of our society. And when they look at the elite class, they see the New York Times, the Atlantic, CNN. And those are the people who

they want plotts and applause from. And so those are the people that they will go out and appeal to. And yet, when you see crimes like this, where this, you know, horrific stabbing of an innocent, young woman who came here from a war-torn country, and it actually turns out she probably would have been safer in her war-torn country than in a large American city. They go very, very quiet because that is not appealing to that particular urban, upper-class professional that they want to appeal to. So suddenly, you know, we had so much politics from these people prior to Donald Trump's election in 2025, and now we hear nothing from them. Now it's let's not politicize the pulpit, even though, you know, this is a moment for pastors to speak into because you have a community that is hurting,

that is scared, and they want to know, you know, what are some of the answers to this kind of pain? And look, the Bible does have answers about justice. If a man like this had been incarcerated and punished as he should have been when he initially broke into people's houses, when he committed armed robbery, when he committed assault with a deadly weapon, then he wouldn't have been on the streets to commit these crimes, but they don't talk about those elements of biblical wisdom that tell us that the government exists to terrorize the unrighteous and the wicked, not to ensure that the innocent can be terrorized. And that's exactly what's happened in this situation. So just to repeat, the largest pastor in Charlotte, North Carolina, has got by then

Stephen Ferdick, he's got tens of millions of followers on social media. He posted endlessly about George Floyd, endlessly. And yet he has not had a single tweet of a murder in his own city. It's really weird, isn't it? He was really upset about a drug overdose of a black guy in Minneapolis, but not a murder of a white woman in his own town. Email us, as always, Freedom at Charliekirk.com. How is your health doing, Megan? I know you've been fighting some serious stuff. Give us an update if you feel comfortable sharing. Yeah, absolutely. And thanks for asking. So I was diagnosed with stage three colon cancer last Thanksgiving. And you know, went through some rough treatment. But post that, I have been declared no evidence

of disease, praise God. So we're just continuing to pray for no recurrence. And, you know, now I get the fun part of being told I need to put weight back on. So, you know, I'm enjoying life. Oh, I want that. That would be a dream kind of prescription from a go-to-in-out burger. I could do that quite well. And we have lots of them here out West. So, Megan, you wrote this amazing book, Shepherds for Sale, all about how our pastors are selling themselves out to the highest bidder. On this racial issue, though, I know you've mentioned it. It's so frustrating because, again, we have a catalog of the current kind of Christian ruling class of what they did. Carl Lentz, who's obviously been disgraced. George Floyd should be alive. It's not acceptable to kill him, blah, blah, blah. Stephen Ferdick. This is what Stephen Ferdick said. He said, quote, he said, if you only post a simple prayer emoji and scroll on, we need to challenge the system. and sickness that created and enabled the death of George Floyd, I am part of the problem, is what Stephen Ferdick said. I mean, I could go through the list of just the nauseating

Christian leaders, and I just, what is it getting better? And how do we call out this from some of our Christian authorities? You know, I don't know if I would say it's getting better. I haven't seen any of this leadership come out and say, you know what, we were wrong. And they were wrong because what they did was accept false narratives that we had a policing system in our country that disfavored black Americans. And that's simply not true. The data does not show that. And so they were backers of policies that have now made us more unsafe and have led to incidents like the death of Arena Zarutka. And so what I have found mostly is that no one's really coming out and repenting of that. They're just trying to sweep it all under the rug and

pretend like it never happened. I mean, look, I want to be clear. The president, of the largest Protestant denomination in the U.S., the Southern Baptist Convention, told Southern Baptist that they needed to use the phrase, Black Lives Matter, that they needed to lend that support to a Marxist organization that was trying to dismantle police systems. So there has been, you know, a real cost to that. They were out marching with these people. And now we see with that ideology and that policy has brought. I mean, we can see it in Chicago. We can see it in D.C. prior to a couple of weeks ago. And we see it even in previously very safe cities like Charlotte where the homicide rate has exploded. So as we look at this, you know, it's really frustrating to

me to see some of these pastors trying to pretend like they weren't a part of that. In fact, what you're kind of seeing them do now is reposition themselves and they're using more conservative language. I have seen that. I can give you the example of someone like that as former SBC president, Pastor J.D. Greer, who pastors is a large church here in North Carolina, you know, he was very much a part of backing social justice and Black Lives Matter. And now he's suddenly using more conservative language, but he's not acknowledging the part that he played in that. And that's what I'm seeing again and again, is that, you know, I think they know that there's egg on their face. But because of that, what they're doing

is just trying to, they're calling it the Great Rehab Tour. They're all going on their great rehab tours to sort of pretend like, hey, we weren't a part of that. And you will never. not hear them talk about Black Lives Matter or social justice anymore, even though they were so instrumental in promoting that movement back in 2020. I think you're right. And it shows that we've made a lot of progress, but we still have yet a lot of work to do. And so I just, the Christian world I know is becoming more center right. It's becoming better on this.

Not every pastor has to come on every issue. The reason why Stephen Ferdick is necessary is that has happened in his hometown. Right. And so he felt necessary to call out George Floyd overdosing on drugs in the streets of Minneapolis, but something that happened in his own city. And that is inescapably biblical. It says that your city matters, your nation matters, your hometown matters, and the welfare of such. Final thoughts, Megan Basham, author of Shepherds for sale. Well, yeah, and I really want to point out that when they did that, it didn't have no impact. They gave aid and comfort to a deceitful, destructive movement. And so those policies that came out of that deceitful, destructive movement are exactly what are making our cities unsafe right now. And that is why we are seeing things like young women being murdered on a light rail train, just when they're trying to get off work and go about their business, because we dishonestly bought into something that was simply popular at the time. And that compromise comes with costs. And we're seeing that now.

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I mean, you've done a great job of covering the media throughout the years. This was an intentional cover-up campaign by not covering this at all from the major media networks. Yet George Floyd dies. Everyone covers this relentlessly tens of thousands of articles a day. Alex Marley, your thoughts. Yeah, Charlie, you couldn't have scripted this. I mean, it felt like this story was out of 15 years ago or something that the media wasn't covering it. After all of this purported hang ringing, the hand-wring that's been going on,

that they've been really looking themselves in the mirror, see where they've gone wrong, why the media is the least trusted industry of any industry in America. And then they have the easiest opportunity ever to get a little bit of credibility just by writing up the biggest story in America and they won't even write it.

They won't put one column inch into it in the New York Times and the Washington Post. Completely ridiculous. But it's something that we all could have seen coming and it just shows you what we discussed on your show like five days ago, Charlie, this shaping up to be a law and order election. The next election, as of now, it's a long ways off.

Law and order is the number one topic. And you could see a 14 time, a guy I've been arrested 14 times, a Ukrainian refugee, out of nowhere, there's no context for it at all. There's no provocation at all. There's video of it. This is the nightmare for the left so long as we get the word out. And that's why the media covered it up. And just talk more about this. So let's go a level deeper here, Alex.

Because what, how do these newsrooms operate? Because what you're defining, what we are articulating is a conspiracy. where we are articulating a silence conspiracy of media networks that intentionally do not cover it. How does this work in practice? Is there a group chat where they say, no, we're not going to do it? Obviously, I think that's unlikely. But is it also that they just have a narrative that they're trying to accomplish and they all know the goal? Because when you go, when you have a dozen outlets, MSNBC, New York Times, BBC, Wall Street Journal, ABC, CBS, NBC, CBS, NBC, NBC,

see, boom, boom, boom, boom. And they all technically have different owners and different editors and different reporters. And not one covers this story. What's going on here? How do they harmonize with such incredible efficiency? Yeah, they're so coached up and they've been coached up for decades on this. And you've been so kind to promote all my books lately. But my first book, Breaking the News, which I wrote about four years ago, I tracked this.

It's all corporatism. It's all about that the corporate boardrooms of all these media companies are controlled. by people who want Democrats elected. They see that they're the true oligarchs. You're Bernie Sanders talking about oligarchs. These are the real oligarchs. And the problem is you cover stories like this and it looks bad for the left

because they want to talk about George Floyd where there's no element of racism that was involved at all. And they treated like that was the biggest racial hate crime of all time, even though George Floyd was on drugs and was resisting arrest. So then you have an example like this

where you see a black guy stabbing a white woman for no reason. How else could you view this other than is racism? if we looked at the world through the lens of the establishment left. And so they know if they cover this clear example of racism, then that nullifies times 100, any of the George Floyd covers they've already done. So they can't cover it. They have to ignore it and hope it just goes away because to cover it reveals that they've been lying to us the whole time,

which they have been. The incentive structure of the media is so broken. We've been waiting for their collapse and they're not quite collapsed, but they're definitely in a situation of decay, you could say. The right wing world online has been largely covering this and has been kind of keeping it alive. Why did this become a bigger story just because of the video? What about the video was so animating? Because it was very interesting.

I was in Japan and South Korea and someone in Japan mentioned, hey, Charlie, hear what happened to the Ukrainian girl in America? I said, didn't that happen two weeks ago? Because I actually saw the story when it originally happened. I said, a Ukrainian refugee. They said, no, no, no, it just happened. And actually it didn't just happen. but it happened two weeks ago, just the video was just out there. Can we get the still image of this, though, just on screen for dramatic effect?

Alex Marlowe. Yeah, so first of all, to your first point, I think it's really important to note that the incentive structure, you use the word incentive structure. These media companies all lose money. They all lose money. And that's why they stay in business because they protect the corporate status quo. You take a company like ABC, which is part of ABC Disney. So the ABC News can lose money because they're protecting brands like that.

the Disney brand, which can make a lot of money through theme parks and through movies and through streaming and stuff like that. So ABC exists to cover for the Disney brand. NBC, NBC Comcast Universal. NBC News loses money. NBC News is designed to keep the NBC Comcast Universal, that entire structure afloat. And if you look at their board, it's all top Democrat donors and people who are fat and happy living off of America's largesse. And those are the type of people are being protected by these newsrooms. That's why they don't do stuff like report on China accurately. because there's no incentive to you because their corporations all make money off of China. You look at New York Times' boardroom.

It's all people who are AIG and Facebook and all these executives from all these other major corporations. And once you see that, then you understand what they're choosing to cover and what they're not choosing to cover. But to your point about the video, the video shows the innocence of it. This is public transportation, small white blonde girl, and a black guy who's in a rage out of nowhere, no provocation at all, no interaction at all. the clear nature of I'm seeing this person, I'm taking out all the rage I've ever had in my life on her like that, and that it's unequivocal because of the video evidence. There's no way to spin it. There's no way to act like there's any sort of a justification or explanation for it.

And that does make it all the more powerful. Alex, there's another, I want to shift gears here a second. I think that's the right analysis. There's a new poll out according to NBC News. Steve Kornacki released it from men who voted for Trump versus women who voted for Harris. Men who voted for Trump, they asked, what was the important to personal definition of success? 34% of men who voted for Trump believe having children is more important than anything else, even more important than financial independence and a fulfilling job and career.

For women who voted for Harris, 51% the most important thing for them, having a fulfilling job and career. The last thing, the least important thing for women who voted for Harris, is having children. This is like a bombshell shocking thing. We knew that some of this existed, but we did not know it was this dramatic. The last thing, the least important thing for them is having children. Having children is right there at 6%. Being married is 6% at the very bottom of the poll. I guess it's technically second to last because fame and influence is the last, but based on what I was looking at.

Alex Marlow, what explains this? Why do so many Democrat women want to die? alone yeah it is remarkable and they've all been coached up and it's the way that we've run our institutions from our culture to our media to the way things are promoted online you'll get your famous your favorite female podcast host aside from the great right wing political ones but if you're it is not a right wing political show host by female they probably got an episode on why i way to do of kids or why i don't need a man all of that stuff happens all the time and it's getting through to people who look out on the world and they feel like well it sounds very expensive to have kids it

hard and all of these cultural inputs are saying that you're going to be less happy. And the left tries to deny our biology constantly. It explains the whole trans phenomenon. They teach people to deny their biology nonstop. Just look at the whole what we witnessed last week with Robert Kennedy, all these people who deny science trying to lecture him on science. That is the nature of the world that we're living in and telling women to not have kids clearly has had an effect on some people.

But there has been a backlash. And you're seeing that in the positive side. this poll, which are young men who are seeing more than ever having children is a positive. That is a complete rebuke of the system, which is telling young men that what you need to do is you need to play the field. You need to be free to be able to sow your wild oats or whatever. That was the environment I grew up in Charlie, but there's been people like you, people like me who are out there saying, actually, it's really rewarding to get married and have a family

and have children. That's the best thing you can do. Clearly that message is getting through. So there's a huge level of positivity with the men, but the women, I feel bad for them right now because you're getting lied to by everyone. Yeah. And again, so it's just did more about the poll. So women who voted for Kamala Harris, liberal women, and they were asked, what are the top three things to rank them? And they didn't even have to consider kids in marriage being top three. Let me just read the entire poll. This goes to show why liberal women are so

unhappy, why so many liberal women are in antidepressants, why so many liberal women are just neurotic and just so unattractive to young men, because their number one thing is fulfilling job and career, then having the money to do things you want, having emotional stability. What are all this hyper narcissistic. Liberal women inherently are incredibly narcissistic, fulfilling job and career, having money that you want. What's the number one thing for men? Men want children. Now, what's amazing is that conservative women, too, Trump voting women did not put children as a top five goal. This is a problem that transcends political lines. This is a, again, it's way worse, obviously on the left, but it's still bad on the right.

And it's the men who want kids. It's the men who want children. It's the men who want marriage. What are the implications of this for our politics, Alex Marlowe? Yeah, we need a rejection of modern feminism, which is told women that you'll be happiest if you act like a man. And this is something that it's not true. I think they all know it's not true.

But there's also the problem, which is that life is expensive and people want to make money as much as possible. And so thus they will maybe tell themselves that I'll be happiest. if I focus on that and not on family. But the focus has to be in family, and you have to use that to drive you to create a family unit that creates a lot of success. So we just need to keep the positive messages coming

as much as we can control it, Charlie, and pray that gets through to as many people as possible. Alex Marlowe is author of Breaking the Law, that is Breaking the Law. I have so much more to say about this. It's just a shocking poll. And again, this is bad civilizationally, everybody, where women who voted for Harris,

the least important thing, second least the word thing, is having children. Bad news. That is a hyper-narcissistic generation of women that will have a lot of cats, a lot of antidepressants, a lot of wine, and no children. They follow their leader. Kamala Harris has no biological children. Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here. We are saving babies with pre-born. There are 24,836 kindergartner starting school this month who wouldn't be alive today if it hadn't been for what pre-born did in 2019. babies were saved that year because of the gift of ultrasounds from people like you. When a woman considering abortions sees her baby on that ultrasound and hears the baby's

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because with Eugene Carroll ruling from the Second Circuit of the most absurd law fear case that I document and breaking the law with a cruel unusual punishment at the end. I think the Supreme Court is going to throw out at a minimum the punishment here, but this was all cooked up by Reid Hoffman and by George Conway to try to get Trump embarrass him before the election. So law fear lives on. It is the biggest threat right now to the MAGA movement. They're working night and day to try to make Trump's life difficult and try to make whoever falls in his footstep, Charlie, people like you and me, make our lives very, very difficult so that we can't operate in this space without getting harassed by the legal system. What was the E. Jean Carroll? I saw a little news

on that just yeah yeah she the so trump is appealing uh basically in the same grounds of the letitia james verdict which was the penalty was thrown out for being cruel and unusual which i predicted in breaking the law because the eighth amendment which it was similar thing happened with eugene carroll that was the one where trump allegedly raped her in a burgdorf goodman the case is completely absurd start to finish i got a big thread of my ex feed if people want to go over there and check that out you can read all the details they're hilariously absurd and she asked for 15 million dollars and the judge rewarded her 90 million. Why? No one knows. But Trump tried to get that thrown out and the Second Circuit upheld it, but it'll go to the Supreme Court and I think it'll die there.

Alex Marla, author of Breaking the Law. Great to see you. My friend. Thanks so much. Thanks, Charlie. This poll from NBC News is remarkable. And we know this. And this is a fact. Liberal women are less happy and more lonely. What's funny is when you say this to liberal women, they scream at you that they're super happy. And it's so obvious that they're not. quote, young liberal women are especially prone nowadays to reporting poor mental health. This was the discovery that Zach Goldberg made almost five years ago pouring over Pew Data in the spring of 2020. Further research in 2022 found that depression has surged among liberal high school girls in the last decade and only about half as much so amongst other high schoolers, especially conservatives. and the hatred of Donald Trump fills the void for so many of these people.

And coming back from Asia, I could tell you, you do not want to live in a country of declining birth rate. If you have a declining birth rate, then they say we need more people because we have a declining birth rate. The study goes even deeper here. Why the mental health of liberal girls sank first and fastest, we are a decade into the largest epidemic of adolescent mental illness ever recorded. It's time we started treating social media like automobiles and firearms. I'm not so sure about that. So for men who voted for Harris, being married was ranked last.

But what's amazing is that women who voted for Donald Trump, being married, was really low on the ladder. The top thing for women who voted for Trump is achieving financial independence, having a job or career you feel fulfilled, owning your own home, being spiritually grounded. which is okay, that's better, having enough money to do the things you want to do. Modern women, this polling shows modern women have become incredible narcissists. And that's not an accusation. It's just what the data shows. And maybe it's true, maybe it's not true. I could tell you on college campuses, it's 100% true.

Men are worrying more about duty and obligation. That's why men are going back to church. What am I supposed to do? What should I ought to do? What is the essence of my existence? Getting married and having children is a values-based decision. and women have to stop thinking about themselves all the time me me me my body my choice my decision yes of course you have the freedom and the agency to do that but not only are you ending up miserable

the country is suffering because of it this poll shows more than the right versus left thing that the values of american women have been corrupted the values of american men haven't really been corrupted actually there's a lot of problems of men but men want what is the best men want to get married. Men want to have children. Men don't just want to have, well, the most important thing is to be able to have the money to do the things I want. It's completely irrelevant. A bunch of trinkets, a bunch of trips, a bunch of selfies traveling the world. There is also the marriage effect. The atlantic.com writes, quote, a common narrative is that commitment and motherhood makes women unhappy. New data shows the opposite is true. We know this. We've said this forever.

Instead of my body, my choice, it should be my family, my community, my church, my country. instead of my body my choice it should be my kids your body your choice will end up having you miserable and we again we've said this forever but now we have an abundance of data to show it the atlantic dot com shows that marriage makes you happier wow what a concept and whenever i go to these campuses charlie i'm super happy why would you say i'm not happy screaming into the mic and oh i can't what this wednesday this thing's about to explode because we talk about traditional gender, traditional, not gender, sex norms. And, you know, some people say, well, you know, I can do it all.

And there's Wall Street Journal piece that shows that women can do it all. For some women, yes, but some women actually don't want it all. Married mothers are the happiest women in America. The data shows it. Married women with children, 40% happiness. No children, they're the least happy. Actually, unmarried with children are the least happy, interestingly. So you should get married and have children.

And then they don't want you to own any homes. They want you to rent and be single and be happy. I'm sorry, we need to reject this entire paradigm. But this shows that young men are in a very good spot. Young men want the best stuff. If this poll showed that men were not wanting children, that would be a problem. But isn't it amazing? The women, hilariously, it's the women that get the most fulfillment once they end up having the children.

They're like, wow, something's unlocked in me. Yeah, it's called the biological. beauty that God built inside of you. If you look at this data right here, though, men who voted for Trump having children, 34% of the most important thing, you'd think that men are career-driven. No, men would rather have kids rather than being financially independent. Something strange is happening here. Usually it's the biological clock inside of women that is going off.

Now it's the biological clock inside of men. You know what it is? It's God-given direction. Men are natural leaders, so men know that they must lead society towards having lots of children and lead women towards having lots of children. The silver lining is that if men are coming around, women will likely kind of come around. So much here.

My message to the women of America, get married and have children. You will be happier and the country will be better off. Thanks so much for listening. Everybody, email us, as always, Freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening, and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust,

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