The Charlie Kirk Show - Motherhood, Meaning, and the Road Ahead ft. Riley Gaines

Episode Date: January 2, 2026

In her CK Exclusives interview at AmFest, Riley Gaines tells her personal story about her friendship with Charlie and her personal experience of his assassination. She also talks about becoming a new mother, Turning Point USA’s pro-family culture, and the transformation across America as young people have grown in confidence about opposing the tremendous evils pushed on them during the woke era. Join future CK Exclusives recordings in person by becoming a member at https://members.charliekirk.com/ Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, hey, Riley. I was going to give you a formal introduction. Go back, go back. No, you can come in. So sorry. Is everybody having a good time? Are we excited about Riley Gaines? The Riley Gaines.

Formerly known as an All-American swimmer and now known as just an all-around amazing person. amazing American, an advocate for women's rights. What aren't you known for now? Being a man. And she's quick on her feet, too. It's not just in the swimming pool. No, that was like, yeah, well, that's why I went to swimming is because I didn't have to be quick on my feet. You don't have to be very, like, agile. It's all in the water. It's all in the water. A swimmer's were typically not that good at land sports. You just get like bad balance or something. Yeah, yeah. So,

Riley Gaines, you have had a front row seat to Charlie Kirk to Turning Point for, I think, like three years now, basically. Is it three years? Yeah. Two and a half? Yeah, yeah. Three. Yeah, I guess. I spoke out in March of 2022. So gosh, three and a half. Turning Point was very quick to offer me guidance and resources and encouragement in a time where I knew nothing. honestly, nothing about the political sphere, nothing about our government. And I'm ashamed to say it, like, never took a government course. I mean, I literally knew we had three branches, and that was the extent of my knowledge. Didn't know what they did.

I still don't know what they do. I don't even think they know what they do half the time. I was that to say. Yeah. That's why they all retire before finishing their term. But Turning Point, and Charlie specifically was very quick to reach out in a way that was different than other people who were reaching out. And I feel like I have a fairly decent amount of discernment and very self-aware and can pick things out in a time where it was, I guess, politically expedient the topic of keeping men out of women's sports.

There were lots of people who, you know, claim the slogans of faith, family, and freedom who were quick to reach out. But I could see it as they were using our experience as an opportunity to capitalize, which I even appreciated at the time because anyone talking about it was a good thing in my eyes. But when Charlie and Turning Point reached out, it was different. It was in a way in an effort to make sure that I was okay as a human being. Because Charlie understood, like, I know it's hard to read these things that are being said online about you. We just want to make sure you're okay. We're here for you. Different than anyone else who had reached out.

So it was a very quick, I think, relationship that had been developed between myself and Turning Point and one that has really fostered and grown over the past three years. Well, you've been an amazing advocate for not only turning point, but for, and not only women's rights and, you know, obviously for protecting women's sports and all of these things, but you have become a political powerhouse. You have become somebody that a lot of politicians want to bring to Washington, D.C. and testify at their committee hearings or get behind their campaign. And what's fascinating to me is that despite all of these things that you could, do with your time. I have seen you more and more and more at college campuses. You had that terrifying experience at San Francisco State University, which was speaking at a turning point chapter. You had every excuse to not double and triple down on the campus activism and doing the things that Charlie was doing. I remember you were at, you went back to San Francisco State, right? And you did a proving wrong with Charlie. It was last year? Yeah. Yeah. It was. And so you have not shied away.

You have not shrunk back. You have gone even harder. Well, we can't, right? Otherwise, I mean, you think about it. You think about all of the different spheres that the left has acquired and runs. Certainly media, mainstream media, these academic institutions, health care even, which is supposed to be a place that is totally not biased or have anything to do with the polarization and the politicization that we've seen even in health care, our government. The list goes on. They've acquired all of these spheres. So, of course, anything that I can do as just say one person as a, now I don't know if I can call myself a recent graduate. I'm getting kind of old. But a, yeah, I know me at the right age of 25. I'm like married with children now. I'm getting up there. But anything that I can do, goodness gracious, I'm willing to do it. We, my husband and I, we welcomed our daughter.

into this world about 10 weeks ago, which is super cool. But even in those 10 weeks, seeing the necessity and the urgency of getting on campuses, high school campuses, college campuses. And so she went with me to 10 different campuses, even this semester. She's traveled to 15 states. She's met the president. She's been to the White House. She's been to Mar-a-Lago. She's going to be really dangerous at two truce and a lie one day. So all that to say, to speak to the importance, of course, of campus activism and reaching the youth, but also to speak to motherhood as well and how I think the best way to describe our little baby girl Margo at this point in her life is portable and adaptable. And your life doesn't end when you have children. What I have found

to be the case. And certainly what Charlie spoke to is your life really begins when you have kids, especially a little girl. Gosh, I look at her. And it's just the most magical, transformative thing I think that as a woman you could possibly go through is being a mom. Yeah, and I remember when we had our first, our daughter, she's seven now, but we were like, you know, you're kind of like an accessory. We can just sort of, like a handbag. We can take you with wherever you want. Well, it gets trickier with two, I will say, because then you've got to play a little man-on-man defense the third then it's like zone yeah you're outnumbered at that point you're out numbered yeah um but it's so true like you'll figure it out you know i've realized like it's pretty

hard to kill them like she doesn't want to die and i don't want her to die therefore like i'm not convinced they don't want to die i feel like oh it's like you know like the you know let's put our finger in the socket yeah she's not there you run downhill uh when we can barely walk lots of different things but yeah they're we'll get they are pretty resilient creatures yes they are So she rocks. She's here. She's in Amfest. So she can now say, I don't know, she might be the youngest person at Amfest. We have a lot of little ones. I know. I know. I've seen a bunch of little babies. We have a, we have a, I think this is a weird way to say. We have a nursing room because there are nursing mothers here at Amfest and we want to make sure they have a place. But yeah, we encourage families. We're very pro-family. Pro-family even in the workplace. Daisy's about to have a baby. So give it up for Daisy. She's around here somewhere. Marina, our CMO is about to have a baby, and I'm terrified of both of them going on maternity leave, so pray for us. Which Turning Point now, I actually spoke to this on stage.

They, and I think this is important in the context of understanding how, yes, of course, the values that Charlie and Turning Point stands for are pro-life, but so much so that in pro-life is not just the baby in the womb, it's supporting moms before, during, and after-pregnancy. And so one of the super awesome things about Turning Point and what they've implemented, what Charlie was working on prior to his assassination, his murder, but what they've implemented after is a six-month maternity leave policy for Turning Point employees, if you've been at the company for a certain amount of time. And so you'd be really hard-pressed to find that sort of policy anywhere else in any realm, any career. And so, again, it shows how it's not just words or a slogan. again, like, these are things they really mean and they really live by. So I think that's super

awesome. If you're going to go as hard in the paint as Turning Point and Charlie have about having babies and getting married, you probably should put your money where you want this. I think that's only fair. People would start calling out the illogical inconsistencies. But no, we are super, you know, and it's fun having those conversations with Daisy and Marina. It's like, listen, whatever you've got to do. Like, that is the most important thing. And keeping the first things, the first things. Blake, you know all about this topic. Nope. you don't know about being a mom yeah not in the slightest no maternity leave for you blake that's not how we roll around here that would cause that would raise even more eyebrows

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So talk about, because one of the things, I mean, when Charlie was assassinated, you know, I think Blake and I were so close to it that, I mean, it was, I saw all this media and I could barely look at it. Honestly, I barely opened my phone for the first couple of days. And as a matter of fact, I got so many phone calls and texts that my phone stopped working. And I was kind of huddled in this, I felt like a bunker, you know, just trying to do every 15 minutes,

just get through every 15 minutes. And, you know, you were one of those people that I noticed in the immediate aftermath that you just stepped up. and you did more things, it felt like, I saw you more vocal, I saw you more defend, you were defending Charlie, you were advocating on behalf of the organization, on behalf of the country, you were speaking out. Tell me what it was like for you to be in your position, in the immediate aftermath. What was the reaction and, like, where's your headspace now? It's one of those moments where, of course, you'll never forget where you were, which being 25,

I don't think I have too many of those in my life. first when President Trump was shot and now this I was actually in line at Chick-fil-A I was in the Chick-fil-A line, don't tell Alex Clark and I was inside the building and I was waiting in line and actually it was I was getting a call from my boss at Fox

and I didn't think anything of it I was out doing stuff about to order, didn't answer my phone I got another call he called right back still didn't answer and I get a text and it said hey are you okay are you in Utah and I knew of course about Charlie's campus stops and I've been following online, very excited. Bear in mind, at this point, I was 38 weeks pregnant or so, right? And so, you know, by all means, and the chaotic and unconventional schedule and career, I guess, that I have, like maternity leave, whatever that means. Anyways, in line,

are you okay? Or are you in Utah? Didn't cross my mind. And so at this point, I call him back. I'm like, hey, what's up? He's like, I'm so sorry. And at this point, I had no idea what he was talking about. I'm like, what's going on? He says, Charlie's been shot and it doesn't look good. And it was at that point, you know, even still saying that out a lot, it gives you just chills over your body. It was at that point I went to X and I opened X, which I wish desperately I never did because you're immediately met with a video. And I had convinced myself that it was AI, honestly. I'm like, oh, that's not real. Like, that can't be real. I turn off my phone. I was in the, you know, few hours following that you hear the news that his life was prematurely ended by a coward.

Initially, it's total shock, right? And just disbelief, disbelief that something like that could happen, that he's really gone, disbelief that in the immediate you're seeing people online who are celebrating, like, total disbelief. And then that night you go to bed and you really can't go to bed. and you just think of Erica, and you're thinking of his children, you're thinking of the future of the company, there are so many questions, how, you know, what does this mean for the nation? He was such a profound and important and influential, the most effective of voices for our time, and he's gone. What does this mean?

And so it was kind of like eight hours of like, you're in and out of sleep, you're kind of like in this constant state of prayer. It was really weird. And then it turns to grief and tearfulness. in the next few days. And then it turns to anger, honestly, and rage. Again, when you see the things that were being said online by peers, even, knowing what they thought about Charlie and his assassination, it makes you think, well, gosh, what would they say if I was assassinated?

These are people who I know in my life. And they're celebrating this. Healthcare workers, government employees, school teachers, the people who are trusted to educate your children celebrate. this who you trust to to save your life if you were in a you know a dire medical situation they're celebrating death um but i will say i went to the memorial service which it was on my due date so you can imagine my OBGYN when i tell him hey i've got to get on a plane actually at 40 weeks pregnant uh he honestly totally understood he's like look riley this is like it's our nation's loss

I'm going to print out your paperwork for you. God forbid, you give birth in Arizona. Here's your papers. Go to a hospital. They'll know what to do. If you give birth on the plane, tell your husband to watch YouTube videos before you take off. I still remember being angry, though, honestly,

walking into the memorial service. But watching as Erica, well, first, it was so cool to see so many publicly elected officials proclaim the name of the Lord in front of, I mean, tens of thousands who were there, but millions who were watching online. that was amazing. But to see Erica, and what you have to imagine is the hardest moment of her life, forgive her husband's assassin 11 days, I think it was, after he was murdered. Like, what a beautiful

display of forgiveness, of strength, of compassion that I think only God can provide a grieving widow so soon after her husband had been killed. And so that was kind of like a pivotal point where it wasn't really anger anymore. Of course, there's still the level of disbelief and grief, of course. But it was feelings of hope and optimism and inspiration for the future. And that's where I'm at now, of course, being here at Amfest, seeing so many people, young people, especially in the audience, smiling ear to ear. We just did the student meet and greet, and they estimated there were 2,000 kids lined up to say hi to me, which is like the craziest thing ever. I've literally only said there are two sexes.

Like, I don't know. I'm really not that cool. Did you do that when you were in third grade? They're like, what do you want to be when you grow up? I want to be famous for saying there are boys and girls. That's really cute, Riley. Did that in kindergarten, so. Third grade was way too late.

Then you had your baby. Then we had the baby, which that whole process was and is still just the coolest, most fulfilling. purposeful, satisfactory thing. I will say, I honestly, of course, one of Charlie's messages that he gave on campuses and beyond was to have kids, get married, have kids as young as you possibly can in your married life and as many as you possibly can. I was scared to get pregnant. I think a lot of women really are because you hear all of these awful horror stories of

of pregnancy and the delivery, and then you'll be sleep deprived for the rest of your life to infinity once you have a newborn. I'm here to say, none of those things happened to me. None of them. I had the best pregnancy ever. No morning sickness, no tire, no fatigue, no aversions, no nothing. I literally live my life as I did prior to conception. The labor and delivery process, a breeze. She was here in like 10 minutes, easy peasy. And now, I know there's like so many moms who are like, shut up, I hate you. But I think it's important. Do we have a security barrier right here?

Because we have to get the stage rushed. I think, honestly, it's important for women to hear that there are good stories too. I totally agree. And we live in this. And that's not to discount the things that can potentially happen and do happen to women. I'm not here to discount that. But I am here to say, my experience was not like that at all. And my baby, I think we just gave birth to a perfect little human.

She has slept fully through the night since day one. never one time. I know. I did a like knock on wood. Seriously, security. Right here. Everyone says, just wait until the second, which I'm a second child. So if, you know, karma is real, it's coming after me hard. But it's been a dream, honestly. No, I totally agree with what you're saying. I definitely had so many people warn me and they're like, oh, you know, and they would do this. By the way, they would do this with marriage, too, by the way. Did you notice this? Like, you got to tell the wife what to. You know. know they would there's like culturally we built into the vernacular just a constant degradation of the

institution of marriage we just you know what I mean it's like we just downgrade it we downplay it we mock it we laugh about it and like okay some of that's fine sure but that's why it's so important to have strong voices like Charlie like you hopefully like this show that say these are the these are the best things these are the best things in life and I can tell you I mean after Charlie was assassinated I didn't see my family for you know weeks on because I was traveling around. I was, you know, they were living in a different place. I had to worry about security.

And when I finally got to just like see them, like, and have my three little ones tackle me, literally tackle me, and just they had no idea what I had been through. They had no idea what we had been through and just tackled me, smiling, tears. They started crying because they missed me and I missed them. There's just like, why would you downplay how wonderful that is? Why would you try and warn people against that experience?

And we do need to do a better job just as a culture. And I think that is changing about, hey, have kids, have them as young as you can. I mean, I'll never forget the interview with Tucker that's gone viral like 48 times with Charlie. He goes, you know, take a job you can't, you're not qualified for, you know, have more kids than you can afford. Live boldly. Don't waste time. And I think just that message is powerfully transformative to our culture. And now you can actually be a living embodiment of that.

is, you know, 25. I mean, I was living in LA at the time, and I don't think any of my friends had kids at 25. And I think it's really important to get started younger than you think because you'll wake up and you'll blink and you'll be 30 and you'll have no children and then all of a sudden, you know, you're not married. Did you ever hear anything like that from people who even would say, oh, you should wait to have kids because it'll mess with your incipient media career or any of that. 100%. 100%. Or people who just say, even friends in my life, friends who I love very dearly who would classify themselves as conservative even who say that you know well um we just need to find the right time let me tell you there is no like right time to have kids you'll never reach that

that's never convenient no no you'll never reach that point there isn't a right time there's a limited time exactly precisely but yes you do have people who who tell you those things um which my husband and I, we were married for, we got married in 2022, which is even that in and of itself. Like, you don't hear of people who are engaged at 21 years old anymore. We were engaged and married at 21, waited a few years to start, you know, trying to have kids. And maybe this is TMI, but I had delivered the baby. My legs are still in the stirrup. I'm like, okay, I'm ready for another one.

And my doctor's like, Riley, I've never heard someone in the state that you're currently in say that. So I'm like, no, I'm, let's do it again. So Irish Twins. Yeah. Oh my gosh, I love that. Yeah. The last appointment, though, he was, because, you know, you go back for follow-ups and they're, you know, just making sure you're good. And he says, Riley, like, you really should wait.

His timeline, he said, you need to wait until April. I said, we'll see about that. I've never been very great at following directions. You're good at one thing, speed. Yeah. Yeah. Unless it's against a man. Oh.

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Yeah. Emma, it should be out there. We've got a first question over here, Emma. Hi, I have a question for Riley, which, by the way, I'm a huge fan. And I know you say you shouldn't be famous for just saying there are two genders, but I think that's really important this day and age, especially for young women as myself. And I want to ask you, as a Christian woman, I've heard a lot of different opinions on this from my peers and from older women. And I know this is a little bit of a personal question,

and I apologize for that right off the bat. But what is your opinion on birth control? because I know that it's quite controversial, especially in the groups that I circulate in. And I know that there's a lot of different types for women, and I just don't know what to think or who to believe. So I wanted to ask your opinion on that. 100%. You can approach this conversation in two ways, and I'll answer in two ways. Number one, in the position of being pro-life, how do I feel about birth control?

Actually, I'll be totally transparent here. I was on birth control in college, not for anything other than the fact that when you're competing at the level of which I was competing at, it was really just to regulate your menstrual cycle when you have big competitions and you can have some sort of hand in controlling that, like to be totally transparent. I regret it, though, after the fact. More so because of how it affects your hormones. Someone who speaks really well to this, of course, is Alex Clark and the effects of the birth control pill on your hormonal cycle. And so I wouldn't do it. Again, obviously now I'm in a marriage and would have no problem having more kids. So on that

front, but I have a lot of friends who feel the exact same way. And I will say, I think it's super duper cool now that we have a whole generation of people, like our generation, who are willing to question these things, right? I would imagine some of you, you know, moms who are out there, maybe grandmoms who are out there, maybe you were on birth control and you didn't think anything of it because your health care provider said, oh, if you don't want to have kids, take this. And you didn't question it because you trust that your health care provider has your best interest at heart, right? We are seeing a whole new generation of people who are willing to push back and question things. And I saw that when we were talking about vaccines for our daughter.

super cool to see some of the stuff come out of HHS surrounding the head B vaccine and the correlation between children or infants, newborns who receive that and different allergies or allergens that they have. We're seeing a whole new generation of kids, really, at least I feel like a kid. Maybe I'm not a kid anymore. I feel like a kid who are willing to question things like birth control, and I think it's super duper cool. I also just want to say I think it's weird that

women, young girls as young as 13 get just automatically prescribed birth control to help with like, I don't know, cramps or something. I mean, it's weird actually. It's been normal for a long time, but then when you take a step back and you're like, wait, why do we do this for little young girls? Like, that's weird. I think it's culturally weird and we need to call it out. It doesn't mean that

I mean, I'm not going to give you the opinions that Riley or No uterus and opinion. Yeah. I can just tell you, from a common sense perspective, it seems very weird. Okay. Where do you want to go next, Blake? Oh, there we go. All right.

We're on the side you want. So I was wondering, as I was a college athlete, I know your athletic career, I feel like the world is very big around trying to make your schedule as busy as possible, and I think that poses as a big threat to our faith and also to developing families. I was wondering how you, like, just manage that when you were done with your sport and what that transition was like for you. Well, of course, I mean, faith is central to my life. I think there's opportunities in every sphere to highlight your faith and to live by your faith. And so while we have these demanding crazy schedules, if you make living a Christ-like life the priority,

it's actually kind of cool to have a crazy schedule and do that. I've been so inspired recently. We talk about this cultural revival that's happening, that has been happening, I think intensified in the last three months following Charlie's assassination. But even on the football field, you know, of course, with college football playoffs and different things, to see so many players proclaim the name of the Lord. Like, it's the coolest thing ever. So I think in every sphere and sector of life, there's an opportunity to speak to God's

goodness, to his grace, to how he sent his son to live on this earth, who died on the cross for our sins, who rose again three days later with the hope and the promise of eternal life. That's a really cool thing, and if you can have the opportunity to say that on every stage, there's lots of people who can have their hearts and minds changed and brought to the Lord. But in my personal life now, it's been cool, I think, especially being married young, because being tested in the way that I feel like I've personally been tested in, it gives you the opportunity to grow spiritually, individually, but also being married. It gives you the opportunity to grow in your faith together.

And so that's been the biggest blessing as well as kind of having an accountability partner in your spouse. So that's kind of my take there is faith first and foremost, which Charlie said this. One of the things he would say is God, family, country, in that order. And I think that's a fantastic mantra to live by. Well, and, you know, Charlie's book that just came out, Stop in the Name of God, you know, take a Sabbath, take a rest. And it's not a, it's not a negative thing. It's a blessing. It's a, you know, cease.

Cease your action. So you can focus on your faith. So you can reflect on what God is doing in your life and doing it in your heart. So definitely take, make it a discipline like Charlie. If you find yourself so busy that you're spinning out of control and losing kind of your grounding, especially, it's a gift to you. It's designed to be a gift to you. I think we have time for one more. Hi, Riley.

I'm Stacey from Alabama. I want to say thank you because you encouraged me because I was actually supposed to go against someone who said they were a female, but they weren't in a jihitsu competition. And you actually gave me the courage to stand up, and I did not have to do that. So thank you very much. Jiu-jitsu, please. My second question as a mom of four is how do we keep the momentum going for our children to not have to deal with this if Democrats get elected again, God forbid, but just to keep the momentum going. Well, first of all, I hate that the onus is placed on you to have to make that decision where ultimately you've, you're in like this impossible spot where what do you do, like do you not do the sport that you love, or do you compromise on what you know to be true and right and fair and just. And so I applaud you.

We've dubbed that at Turning Point. One of the initiatives that we've been working on is called Project Boycott with emphasis on the word boy. And really encouraging those girls in whether it's team sports, whether it's something as like physical as Jiu-Jitsu, gosh, like I can't imagine grappling. Is that the verb that you would use? Grappling on a mat with like smashing skulls. Yeah, with a man that's insane. and anyone with eyeballs in a shred of honesty and integrity or common sense would be able to see it that way. But secondly, okay, how do we keep the momentum if Democrats get back in

charge? First and foremost, understand it starts in your house, not the White House. There is so much performance and theatrics in Washington, D.C. And praise God that we have Donald Trump in the Oval Office, and we have a Republican majority in both the House and the Senate, those are great things, but let's be real in terms of longevity, the things that they're accomplishing or not really accomplishing, you have far more influence on your children and how they live their life as parents than who is in the Oval Office, who is the president of the United States. So with that responsibility, really an obligation, I believe, as parents, number one, lead by example. But two, be willing to defend your kids against any harm, any threat.

any risk that could possibly present itself. I have so many parents who reach out to me on a daily basis who say, you know, this is happening in my daughter's school. Can you talk about it? I can't because I'll lose my job. And of course, right, anything I can do, I'm willing to do it because this is my passion. It's what I care so deeply about. But do I have to care more about your kids than you do, you know? Be willing to take that risk. I saw a video yesterday of this little girl. I don't know how old she was or where even in the world she was, but we've seen so many of these of girls at school board meetings, right? And they're standing and there's the podium.

I posted on my ex-account. This girl, she was so short, she couldn't even see above the podium. I think she's eight years old. I don't know. How many people failed that little... She was there to speak about it. She didn't want boys in her bathroom. Think of how many people failed that little girl

to be there saying those words, defending herself in that way. She's so short she couldn't even see over the podium. That's not Joe Biden's fault. I mean, I guess you could point a finger. at Joe Biden. You mean auto pen. Yeah, Autopin, the Democratic Party. You could point a finger at the principal, but I think at that point there's a finger to be pointed back

at parents as well. Defend your kids against any harm, any threat, any risk that presents itself. You've got to go. It's always something. All right. The great Riley Gaines, everybody. Thank you for joining us. Thank you guys.

And thank you, everyone who was here throughout the day. Yeah, thank you guys. We appreciate all of you. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.