The Charlie Kirk Show - My Town Hall Conversation With TPUSA Students and Treasury Secretary Bessent

Episode Date: April 29, 2025

Modern life requires more financial literacy and planning than ever before. But schools barely teach this crucial topic, leaving young people adrift during the time where savings and investments pay the biggest long-term dividends. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent joins Charlie and thousands of TPUSA students around the country to discuss cryptocurrency, investing, what drives inflation, and much more. Become a member at members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey, everybody, it's the Charlie Kirk Show, my conversation with the Treasury Secretary of the United States and thousands of Turning Point USA students. Some of them zoom in for an exclusive conversation on financial literacy that you can only hear here on the Charlie Kirk Show. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com and become a member today, members.charliekirk.com. That is members.charliekirk.com and get involved with Turning Point USA at tpusa.com. That is tpusa.com. That is tpusa.com. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of The Charlie Kirk Show, a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments.com. That is noblegoldinvestments.com. It's where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegoldinvestments.com. We are going to be joined by the Treasury Secretary of the United States and a friend of mine, Scott Besson, and over 1,000 Turning Point USA high school and college chapters across the country to discuss financial literacy. We know with all the economic pressures that are facing the next generation, as you can see, they're populating up on screen, all of our amazing

turning point leaders. Hey, guys, great to see you. That's the future of America right there. I'll tell you what, with all of the financial pressures facing the next generation, inflation, cost of housing, it's more important than ever to teach financial literacy, how to save money, how to invest, what does it mean to have compound interest, what is debt, what is good debt versus bad debt, what is consumer debt, what is credit card debt, what is a mortgage, should you take out two mortgages on your home, what is a reverse mortgage, this stuff needs to be taught in our schools, and we are trying to lead the charge here with our Turning Point USA students, but any further ado, let me welcome the Secretary of Treasury of the United States, who's doing a phenomenal job

in the first 100 days here, Scott Besson. Mr. Secretary, great to see you. Thank you for taking the time. Hey, Charlie, great to see you. And this is part of Financial Literacy Month. And I think that there's nothing more important. Well, thank you. I agree. And what we have here is over a thousand of our Turning Point USA chapters, high school and college chapters, that quite honestly, in the next half an hour to 45 minutes, they're going to learn more about financial literacy because it's not taught in our schools. It's not taught in high schools, not taught in colleges. And let me just ask you before we go to our first question, which is Trey from University of South Carolina. Why is it, do you think, that financial literacy has not been in our curriculum, Mr. Secretary?

Can you comment on that? Because it's a major failing. Yeah, Charlie, I don't know, because somehow I got a bad name. I'm older than all of you. I'm 62. But when I was younger, it actually used to be taught. And everyone used to think home economics was like how to cook, how to keep a house, but it was also how to keep a budget. And somehow, like home economics disappeared, shop disappeared, and all these other kind of strange transgender studies things showed up. and somehow they were more important than teaching people how to be self-sufficient. You know, I was on the last curve. It's funny. I

went to MacArthur Middle School and we had home ec and they got rid of it a couple years later. And it was very helpful because it was all about how to balance a checkbook. What is saving? What is investing as well as some of the more basic stuff, how to do laundry, how to iron your shirts. And quite honestly, one that I appreciated, young men, here's how to tie a tie. What a concept, right? It's amazing how many young men don't know how to tie ties. Let's get to our first question here. As I mentioned, we have over a thousand chapters here on the Zoom call. It's an honor to be speaking to you, Mr. Secretary. The first question here is from Trey. He's a Turning Point USA chapter leader at the University of South Carolina in beautiful Columbia, South Carolina. I was just there for a great event that unfortunately got rained out about an hour into it. Trey a pleasure to be speaking with you tonight.

And I have a question for you, Mr. Secretary. So what practical change is the Trump administration making that are going to be helping young people such as, number one, get married, two, own a home, number three, afford for kids? Because this is really a big reason why President Trump won back in November. Young people were looking at being the first generation since Washington, where they weren't expected to be as well off as their parents were. So, my question. Trey, all three excellent points. And I don't know if you know it, I am from South Carolina, so go Gamecocks. And at the Trump administration, we are trying to address this incredible affordability crisis that was created by the last administration. And it was a combination of the out-of-control prices, the out-of-control government debt.

And we'll come back to that on why that's very important. If I was a young person, not fair for my generation to pass it down and then bring down interest rates, bring down the energy cost, and also create economic security because one of my big sayings is that economic security is national security national security is economic security and they're really tied together so you know i'll work backwards here and i'll say that i think one of the few good things to come from COVID was it was a beta test that if we got into a kinetic war, could the U.S. be self-sufficient? And it turns out we're not. We couldn't supply our own medicine.

We don't have a lot of rare earths, which go into most of our machinery. The semiconductors are all made on the island of Taiwan, steel. So we're trying to bring all those back home. For economic security, one of the reasons I came out from behind my desk in Charleston was I was so alarmed by the way the Biden administration was just spin, spin, spin. And I thought it was deeply cynical what they were doing. They were running up the debt. And then they were going to come and say, we have to raise taxes. And we were going to become like a European-style social democracy.

And in this slow growth, high tax environment, that's the worst thing that young people like you could start out in. And then the last thing is the high government debt. It pushes up interest rates. So we have a plan to bring down the government debt and also to make the U.S. energy independent and keep energy prices low. Phenomenal answer. Thank you, Trey, for that. And yes, Mr. Secretary, I did choose the South Carolina question first. There's a little bit of a wink and a nod to the courtesy of you making time. You got to go back home. And so and I want to add on to that just a second as we get Ryan queued up here from Wichita State University,

which is when young people do not own stuff, when young people do not have a stake in the American dream, it can set the prerequisite for radical socialist politics. Ownership of goods, ownership of property is a necessary ingredient for the flourishing of the American middle class. You know, one of the biggest lies being sold to American people right now is that you're in control of your money, especially when it comes to crypto. But the truth, most of these so-called crypto platforms are just banks in disguise, fully capable of freezing your assets the moment some bureaucrat makes a phone call. That is not what Bitcoin was built for. That's why I use Bitcoin.com.

I just did a major transaction on it. They offer a self-custodial wallet, which means you hold the keys. You control your assets. No one can touch your crypto, not the IRS or not a rogue bank, not some three-letter agency that thinks it knows better than you do. This is how it was intended by the original creators of Bitcoin, peer-to-peer money, free from centralized control, free from surveillance, and free from arbitrary seizure. So if you're serious about financial sovereignty, go to Bitcoin.com, set up your wallet, take back control, because if you don't hold the keys, you don't own your money. Bitcoin.com. Freedom starts

here. Ryan, a great chapter leader for us at Wichita State University. Ryan, great to see you. What question do you have for the secretary? And you've got a great chapter there. I think you've got almost 10 people there. And so say hello to the secretary from Wichita, Kansas. Well, thank you, Charlie and Secretary Besson. And our question is, what advice do you have to young people listening on how they should approach wealth building? Another good question. And I'm going to give you an answer that I think is not obvious. Everyone wants to be a great investor. And that's super helpful in terms of how you manage your assets. But the other way, and Charlie alluded to it earlier, is how do you manage your personal balance sheet? How do you manage your personal finances?

And how aware are you of your risk tolerance? And a good thing about being a young person is you should have more risk tolerance. There used to be, and I'm not a proponent of this, but there used to be a very easy rule of thumb. You took 100, subtracted your age, and then that's the percent of your net worth that should be allocated to equities. And then over time, as you got closer to retirement, you'd have more fixed income, fewer equities. But one thing that I would really tell everyone to think about is like personal tax planning. There's so many things that you can do that in terms of do you want to live in a low tax state? Do you want to live in a high tax state? The savings plans, when do you want to start?

When are you able to start putting money away? Even if it's $100 a month, makes a big difference. And I would echo what Charlie says, is we want to have stakeholders in the system. You want everybody to be part of the system. And you also want people to believe in the system. You want to be smart about your insurance. Is it a good idea when you're very young? You can buy very cheap life insurance. That's a great tax advantage savings product over your life? Where do you keep your money? You want your money to be in a safe and sound bank, but many people get very lazy.

And if you have a money market account and a checking account, money market account's probably gonna pay a lot more. It can be a little bit of a pain every week or every month, but keep the money in the high earning account and then just move it over to checking or debit as you need it. And the main thing too is just when you're young, don't get over your head in debt. College of Charleston, where I live, has a great program for kids. I'm sure all of you have seen freshman year, American Express, all the other credit card companies are out on campus. They're here, sign up. This is going to be great. And before you know it, you're into the semester,

you're two semesters, you're over your head in debt, you're having trouble making ends meet, maybe have to drop out of school for a while, get a job, your grades go down. So as Charlie said, having smart debt and normally credit card debt is not smart debt. Excellent answer. And that's really important, guys, to understand also, and I'm sure we'll get to this at some point in the conversation. we don't, learn the tax laws. Now, Mr. Secretary is working on a phenomenal tax bill with the president that will hopefully go no tax on tips, no tax on overtime and all that other stuff. But understand that a mortgage actually has some tax benefits to it to a home. So understand that credit card debt has no such advantages in the tax code system. In fact,

you want to try to borrow money on something that gets more valuable. By the way, that was the argument for student loan debt in a year past, right? Years past. Well, you're going to get more valuable over the next 30 years, so you might as well borrow money on yourself. Well, understand that going and spending money on experiences, going out to eat or going on vacations, those are very diminishing returns over a long period of time. And so understand the different types of debt is critically important. Okay, next, we have a high school chapter here. We know we have more high school chapters than college chapters at Turning Point USA. It is Andrew, Nick, and Knox

from Fort Worth Country Day High School in Fort Worth, Texas. Great to see you guys. What is your question for the secretary? And I love the hat. Hello. Yes, you are on. I don't know if it's Andrew, Nick or Knox. What is what is up and what is your question for the secretary? The three part question. The first part is, can you explain why the dollar is the world reserve currency? The second part is, how does that help America? And then the third part is, are we at a risk of losing that? So, Nick, good questions. I'll work backwards there. We are not at risk of losing it now. I think if we'd continued with the Biden administration's reckless policies, there's a chance that we might.

I don't believe we are. great economic policies that makes the United States the best place to invest, the best place to compound your capital, best place for innovation, best place for upward social mobility, wealth accumulation, to be able to keep more of what you make, but a very attractive destination for foreigners to bring in their money. Because we take the stability that we have here for granted. We take the fact that our markets are free and fair. Around the world, it's not like that. Argentina, that I just visited three weeks ago, has a very dynamic president.

You may have seen him, President Malay. And he is having to save his country. But Argentina, 100 years ago, was the ninth richest country in the world. Now I think it's something like 120th. So everyone, people like Argentinians, want to put their money here. And then why is it important to be the reserve currency? Because it gives us low cost borrowing, gives us the authority over the rest of the world in terms of issuing debt,

in terms of the world is priced in dollars. So it gives U.S. companies an advantage, gives the U.S. government an advantage for borrowing, and really helps us maintain our defense posture and our foreign presence. Everybody wants to be in the dollar. Commodities are priced in dollars. Oil is the most important commodity in the world. It's priced in dollars. So we got to work hard to maintain our reserve currency status.

I'm sure that we are going to do it. And President Trump did an incredible job in his first term. There was some bad behavior by the U.S. government in terms of fundamentals. And now we're going to be back on a good track. And I can tell you, everybody in the world wants to come here now. And I will add on top of that as well. Everybody in this audience, you guys have inherited really what is a birthright, which is the U.S. dollar as the world reserve currency status. We do not want to lose that. Look at that right here. Losing that

would be detrimental and potentially catastrophic. And President Trump wants to try to decouple the bricks. Joe Biden did nothing when it came to bricks. He couldn't care less. The fact that these countries were trying to assemble an alternative to the dollar, a big problem. What does a mechanic and auto shop owner in Georgia, a taco restaurant operator in Arizona, and a life-saving medical innovator in Tennessee have in common? They're all small business owners, and they're all thriving on TikTok. Across the U.S., over 7.5 million businesses, from family-owned shops to entrepreneurs, are using TikTok to compete and grow.

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Thank you, Mr. Kirk. We hope to have you sometime down here in the future. And thank you, Mr. Secretary, for taking our question. So our question is, there is a lot of concern that the Trump tariffs may increase product prices sometime in the relatively near future. So when can we expect prices to decrease? And how will that benefit college students in the long run who are already broke? So the tariffs, we'll see where the negotiations come out. Tariffs are more like a one-time price change. So we could see a price adjustment over the coming months. But at the

same time, we're seeing rents go down. We're seeing energy prices go down. My cousin from Daytona Beach, Florida, if you could believe it, gas in Daytona Beach is $1.92 a gallon. So we've seen about a 20% decrease in energy prices. And President Trump is committed to lowering taxes. So the way to think about it, the price on the shelf may go up slightly, but your take-home pay will go up. The sort of what we would call the after tax earnings for whether you're single or for a household will go up. And then the other big tax that is really an invisible tax is regulation. So the average household in America, the cost of regulation increased by about $3,000 per year under President Biden. And we are working on cutting that back. So you should be able to see a substantial decrease in regulatory burden.

Phenomenal. And I believe we're going to have a conversation a little bit about inflation. And I do want to get into that because the number one primary driver of inflation is government spending. We have a debt finance government spending cheap money spigot. And it's a it's a tough thing to decouple there. But we have a lot of advantages. And one of the advantages we have is our people, our obviously world reserve currency status, the entrepreneurial capacity of America. Also, artificial intelligence is massive. We are going to become the AI capital of the world. Jacob is here. Jacob is from Green Valley High School in beautiful Henderson, Nevada. Jacob, what is on your mind and what is your question for

Secretary Besson? How's it going, guys? I just wanted to say I'm a super big fan. Thank you guys for taking the time to answer my question. My question, I wrote it down. Can you explain what causes inflation? People claim COVID disrupted supply chains all around the world, and that's what really caused inflation. Is that true, or did Biden directly spark it through bad official and monetary policies? The very nuanced and important question. Prices can go up over the short term during periods of shortages, but they want to come right back down. What happened was this terrible combination of what the Biden administration did, and it was exactly the opposite of what President Trump did under his first administration. So he cut taxes and deregulated. So when you deregulate, there's

more supply of something. There's more supply of energy. There's more supply of housing. There's more supply of goods and services. So there was a demand shock for goods because people had more disposable income. At the same time, there was a supply response. So there was a greater supply of everything. And there was very low inflation, about 2%, which is the long-term average. Under the Biden administration, they were playing with fire anyway. And there were the COVID shortages, but they had a federal spending shock that was, as Charlie said, debt financed. And then they put in more regulations.

So more regulations meant less supply, higher energy prices, higher house prices. So that was really the recipe for inflation. And what we're trying to do right now is deregulate, get the private sector going again. Biden administration, with this big spending, it was government jobs. And we are trying to do what I call reprivatizing the economy, bring down government spending, the re-leverage the private sector. And that, you know, I think that we are going to be very, very successful in that. We're already seeing rents go down. We're seeing energy go down. So supply and demand, the more there is of something, the more the price will come down. And we've stopped this crazy money printing. And we're going to get our borrowing under control because, like I said, it is for all of you on this call that it is not fair what has happened to leave you with this gigantic debt stack that you're going to have to work piggyback on that. And let's add more context and color. If I could ask a follow up, Mr. Secretary, which is that in 2008, 2009, our leaders had to make a choice. You

remember this. You were running very successful businesses at the time. And it was very tempting to turn on the cheap money spigot. And I get it to a certain extent. I think you can make an argument for TARP, Target Asset Relief Program. The stimulus was questionable. But what was disturbing is that this prosperity from 2008 onward has, of course, been materially prosperous for some Americans, but it has actually only made the wealthier even wealthier, the wealthy wealthier. And it's been very hard for the middle class to own stuff post 2008 financial crisis because we have a government debt financed economic system. Turning that off, if not managed correctly, can be very troublesome. Can you speak to the balancing act that you and

President Trump have to navigate from the bond markets? Because being able to deal with all that, once you go and you, let's just say, indulge in cheap money, good luck getting away from it. Talk about that balance and how you guys now want to get us back to an actual material economy where we make stuff in this country. Sure. Charlie, that's the essence of the Trump economy. And it's really two things, or I would say three. But one is bringing down this debt and deficits, but we're going to do it slowly. We didn't get here all at once. I tell some of the members of Congress who, they're good men and women, and they want to bring the deficit to zero tomorrow. And I said, look, our fiscal situation, we have a 350-pound, two-pack-a-day patient on the ICU table, and he or she is not going to hop out of the hospital bed

and run the Hawaiian Ironman. What we're going to do is do it slowly because we didn't get here in one year. We're going to bring down the deficit about a percent every year and during President Trump's term. And if we do that, we'll start paying down debt and creating value. The other thing, too, is I don't want to scare all of you because one great thing that you have to look forward to is this incredible productivity boom. What really creates wealth is productivity. The same number of people working either the same hours or fewer hours for more output. And with this AI boom,

that's going to be driven by the U.S. lead in technology and the U.S. lead in energy. And that's going to be the real secret sauce that you all are going to see for the next 10, 20 years of your lives in the U.S., that no one else has that combination. We have the world's greatest technology sector, and we have the world's biggest energy sector. So, you know, if you think about a barbell economy, we have technology on one side, energy on the other, and they're going to meet with AI. And then what President Trump has instructed his cabinet, the econ team like me to do, is to fill in the middle and bring back high-performance manufacturing jobs. So before, either you had to be in high tech, you had to be in energy, and everything in between just got decimated. We gave up on manufacturing.

And look, manufacturing, there's one comedian who said, I don't know about all of you. I want to wear Nikes. I don't, there's one comedian who said, I don't know about all of you. I want to wear Nikes. I don't want to make them. So we're not going to bring back the jobs of the past. We're going to have the jobs of the future here. And these are going to be high tech, high value jobs. And if someone on the left took a shot at me the other day, they said, oh, Secretary Besson says that the late all federal workers are all going to work in factories.

And I said, you know, that's so reductionist that when a factory isn't just someone who works on the factory floor. And by the way, what's wrong with that? That those are great people. But, you know, you're going to create marketing jobs. You're going to create accounting jobs. You're going to create the design jobs. We're going to bring all that back. So I just think that the U.S. has just the right combination right now of technology and energy, and then we're going to

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Our last question will be here, Colin, Northwood University from Midland, Michigan. Colin, what is on your mind? Hi, we are Northwood University from Midland, Michigan. We are America's free enterprise university. First of all, I'd like to thank Charlie and Secretary. Our question is, what is your stance, the treasurer's stance on regulations on data, data, assets, currents, such as Bitcoin? And is the Treasurer exploring a central break, digital center? If so, what are the advantageous advantages of doing so? Look, I think the digital assets are very exciting. I would advise all of you to understand what you're buying.

You know, it's not a casino. But to me, Charlie, great thing about digital assets. And, you know, I think most of you would have been very young during the great financial crisis. But there was something that was called Occupy Wall Street. And it was a group of people who, they were probably the progressive or left-wing to begin with, but not everybody. There were people on our side of the aisle, and it was people who just thought the system was not working for them.

The system had failed. And as Charlie said early on, we want people involved in wealth accumulation. We want people to believe the system works. And I think the great thing about digital assets is it's brought a whole new group of young people to the markets or a whole group of people who just weren't invested in the markets. I will share my dirty little secret with all of you is I'm from South Carolina, so I have a Dr. Pepper for breakfast in the morning, not allowed to do it at home. So I ended up at the Circle K on Meeting Street in Charleston, South Carolina, most mornings, dressed before I came to D.C., dressed like this. Lots of the mostly young working class construction workers,

mostly African-American, in there in the morning and buying lottery tickets. And they'd say, Mr., when I win the lottery, will you manage my money for me? And I'd see them again and again. And I was sitting there thinking, if these young men were putting that same $10 or $20 a week into a crypto account, if they'd been buying Bitcoin for five years, they'd own the Circle K. So, and I think what we were trying to do in the U.S., the Biden administration really tried to make digital assets extinct.

And I speak to these digital asset entrepreneurs, and they just said, it felt like we had a bounty out on our head. A lot of the digital assets went offshore, subject to a lot of scams. And what we're trying to do is apply the U.S. best practices rule of law to digital assets, couple that with American innovation, and make the U.S., the digital asset, the capital of the world. And I think we're going to do it. And, you know, so I think it's exciting. I'd encourage all of you to explore it. Over time, stores of value have changed, and clearly Bitcoin, Ethereum, they are becoming stores of value. And what I would encourage you to do, though, is think about your own risk tolerance. you probably, depending on your savings, there is some level digital assets are very volatile,

but if they're going to be a good investment for the longterm, then you could sit through the volatility. But if you want to be involved, think what is the right amount that you're willing to risk? Is it 5% of your assets? Is it 10%? Is it 20? And they really keep it well researched and decide what your risk tolerance is. That way, you know, you're not buying at the top, selling at the bottom. You can do the opposite and always leave a little room to buy a little more. Mr. Secretary, thank you for your time.

We have two minutes remaining of what we're scheduled. The last question I have for you is what do you wish you would have known at age 22? I mean, you ended up being very successful. You're the Treasury Secretary of the United States. Incredible success in finance. What's the one thing that you wish somebody would have taught you that you would have internalized when it comes to financial literacy? Charlie, I mean, it's going to make me sound like the most boring person in the world. Great tax planning.

Like, just sit and think. Think about tax planning, especially once you have a family. But when do you want to buy a house? When do you not want to buy a house? How do you manage your finances? As you said, the mortgages are deductible, but you buy a house, but you're locked in one place. And then the other thing, too, is there's a famous baseball player, the only baseball player to bat over 400, Ted Williams. And he was interviewed once, and they said, Ted, how'd you bat 400? And he said, I only swung at strikes.

And you're all young people. You are going to see a lot of things happening over your career. There are going to be a lot of great opportunities. And so the other thing I would say is don't be afraid of change. Don't be afraid of change. Don't be afraid of volatility. Don't be afraid of tough situations. In my career, and then I'll get off, Charlie, is that I graduated from college in the mid-80s. It was a crash of 87. There are these financials, the savings and loan crisis, the Asia crisis, the dot-com bubble burst in 2000. And let's just say the dot-com bubble burst in 2000. I think Amazon

stock may have gone from 100 to 3. And Warren Buff says the biggest mistake that he ever made was not Jeff Bezos came to him and said, you know, would you finance me? And he didn't. So try to have a long-term, when you see a crisis or when you see a dislocation, is probably a better word, think about the long- term and always have some liquidity on the side. In 1987, stock market crash was down 20-something percent in one day. And I worked for this Middle Eastern family. And so I was 25. I was freaking out.

I was like, oh my God, what are we going to do? And the daughter of the family, who's only 25, she was 35. She came over calmly and she said, we've been saving up for a rainy day, and this is a great time to get involved. So have enough liquidity for a rainy day over the course of your life. Be prepared to take advantage of very interesting situations and always know your risk tolerance. That's phenomenal advice. And remember that if you can figure out how to send the government less money, no offense, Mr. Secretary, you're going to be in a great spot. In fact, you're working to make it so that people send less money to the government. Thank you so much for your time, Mr. Secretary. Let's have all the students on screen. Can you see that, Mr. Secretary? Thousands and thousands of students.

They're all waving and thanking you for your time. And so good. And Charlie, why don't you the why don't you or organize a visit for the some of the Turning Point crew here? The sometime in the next couple of months. Love to host them here at Treasury. We would love that.

Thank you. We will do that this summer. We'll send a special group of students to the Treasury building, which is now open for business. Believe it or not, it was closed during

Biden's entire term, which is just insane. Thank you so much, Mr. Secretary. Thank you to all of our great students and everyone that helped put this together. Talk to you guys soon. Thanks so much. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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