The Charlie Kirk Show - President Trump's Epstein Vindication

Episode Date: February 10, 2026

For months, Donald Trump took slings and arrows for opposing further release of Epstein files. His haters claimed he was hiding something, but the latest release instead reveals the president was one of the first people to contact the police about Epstein's behavior. The show team reacts, then offers further insight on the viewership numbers for the All-American Halftime Show. Florida club owner Frankie Bianco joins after going viral for standing up to a deranged Bad Bunny fan. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's been an interesting news cycle. There's like three hearings going on in Congress right now. There's also a trial in Los Angeles that we're keeping our eyes on. It looks like meta. Google are presenting their case that they say they haven't been addicting young people to social media. Turns out there's a lot of data that would suggest that they have been doing that. Also, Todd Lyons from ICE is testifying before Congress, and he's absolutely schooling Eric Swalwell on the five-year-old hoax story. But I want to lead with a really, really fascinating wrinkle that has just emerged in the Epstein documents saga.

Yesterday evening, newly unsealed court documents show that Donald Trump called the Palm Beach Police Chief about Jeffrey Epstein in 2000. So this is before he was ever arrested for pedophilia or for sex trafficking minors. Yeah. Or, well, we should be precise about what it is because we don't have that phone call. What we have is we have a police report. We have in 2019, not even that, we have in 2019, the FBI interviewed Michael Ryder, who had been the Palm Beach police chief at that time. And he apparently told, and this is even blacked out of documents, but the Miami

Harold is reporting that was this guy. And he spoke with the FBI and then told them that this is how it unfolded. So there is a chain here. This is from the memory of the recounting of the then Palm Beach Police Chief. But he does say that in July 2006, so that's just when Epstein is coming under investigation, I think before he's even been indicted. Trump calls Palm Beach police and he basically tells them, yeah, you guys should investigate this guy.

He's a creep. He's disgusting. But Gleine Maxwell is the really, he calls her evil. He says she's the evil one and is doing bad stuff. And he says people in Miami know about it and people in New York know about it. And it doesn't seem like he gave them anything specific, but that he was encouraging them to look further into it. Yeah, because everybody knows. He said that everybody knows what he's been doing. So this is pick 322.

the image displays a page of redacted testimony or statements related to Jeffrey Epstein mentioning interactions with Donald Trump and Galane Maxwell. Trump was one of the very first person, as revealed by this document. Again, it was from 2019. It was a recollection of the 2006 interaction with President Trump. Trump was one of the very first people to call when people found out that they were investigating Epstein in 2006. President Trump is quoted as saying he threw Epstein out of his club, called the police, and people in New York knew Epstein was, quote, unquote, disgusting. Sounds like President Trump. Yeah.

Yeah. It's one of his favorite words there. That's like right around when he was going, he would do those Rosie O'Donnell. He would like attack her on entertainment tonight. Rosie O'Donnell is disgusting. She's a slob. She talks like a truck driver. Trump also reportedly stated that Maxwell was Epstein's operative and quote unquote evil,

advising to focus on her. So here's image 323. Palm Beach Country Club. This is a quote from it is a Jewish country club. A lot of wealthy people are there and they flocked together. Maralago is a mixture of everyone. Donald Trump told, redacted that he threw Epstein out of his club. Trump called the Palm Beach Police Department to tell him, thank goodness you're stopping him. Everyone has known he's been doing this, end quote. So that's the first part. Now yesterday we also got a video from Galane Maxwell pleading the first. fifth again and again and again before uh it was comer and and Andy Biggs so that was a what we've got this clip here it's worth it's worth showing just for fun here um because it's interesting seeing them in their in their native habitat all right 327 go ahead and throw it up miss Maxwell were you a close friend and confidon of Jeffrey Epstein I would like to answer your question but on the advice of council

I respectfully decline to answer this question and any related questions. My habeas petition is pending in the Southern District of New York. I therefore invoke my right to silence under the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Let the record reflect that Ms. Maxwell has invoked the Fifth Amendment against self-incrimination. So Chairman Comer confirms this 326. As expected, Elaine Maxwell took the fifth. and refuse to answer any questions. This obviously is very disappointing.

We had many questions to ask about the crime she and Epstein committed, as well as questions about potential co-conspirators. But it looks like this is a little game of negotiation that's going on behind the scenes with the lawyers. Rep. Andy Biggs, who's running for governor here in the great state of Arizona, is going to be the next governor of the great state of Arizona, said that Maxwell's lawyer, quote, said that she has no indication. and would say so, that neither presidents, Trump, or Clinton are culpable of any wrongdoing.

And that's one thing they said in this opening statement. So Comer said that Maxwell's attorney said she would, quote, answer questions if she were granted clemency by the president. So horse trading going on behind the scenes. That's tough because when you make it that obvious, like certainly just from the political calculation, regardless of what actually happened, if that's the deal, unfortunately, anyone who's sold on their being wrongdoing is not going to buy that because they'll just say basically she sold that story in return for a pardon. Correct. Which makes it very tough regardless of what truly happened.

Yeah, but you know, it's great here is you've got these newly unearthed documents from the FBI, from the Palm Beach police chief saying that Trump was calling him, you know, warning about evil, disgusting Epstein and Galane Maxwell in 2006. Which is funny because Trump, a thing that's, worth of worth of a note is in 2019, President Trump was saying he had no knowledge of anything Epstein was doing. And so you do wonder what caused him to frame it that way. I wouldn't be surprised if maybe it was like he just didn't want to, maybe he just didn't want people to think he was a narc or something. Well, I will tell you, I mean, Palm Beach, if anybody knows the Palm Beach

area, it is, it's like high school for rich people. They're all talking, they all know, they all hear the rumor mill. And so it's possible. that President Trump just didn't have direct evidence or direct knowledge. Yeah, he might have meant it that way. He had heard all of the stuff that was going on, wanted them to step in. Also, President Trump has been very clear about this.

You know, I think Virginia Guffrey was working at Maralago. I think in the spa there or whatever, and Jeffrey Epstein poached her from his club. He didn't like that. And I think he was trying to do that a lot of times with more staff than just Virginia.

And so, listen, if you're business owner and another business is trying to keep, you know, poaching your staff. You don't like that. And you're going to put your foot down on it. So I do think some of it was sort of a business related thing. Some of it was rumor mill. This guy's disgusting. And it seems to be that Epstein held on to this grudge for years and kept trying to get... He's mentioned thousands of times in the files in one form or another, but he doesn't pop up the way others are where they're emailing Epstein all of the time. He's just this peripheral figure. And I think a very real phenomenon is honestly, I suspect that Epstein himself probably believed that Donald Trump might have been the guy who essentially ratted him out to police.

May have been the guy who brought him down. And then he runs for president in 2016, 2015, 2016 becomes uber, over, important and famous. Jeffrey Epstein then becomes even more fixated on him, wants to know how he can get him, how he can take him down. And kind of, you know, talks crap behind his back. I think it's just so funny that obviously President Trump took a lot of heat. for he was skeptical of saying you know we don't need to release more of this stuff it's going to tag a lot of people and it caused

all these people to say oh well the president is hiding and he's the he's the pedo president and then they finally like they dig in and they get this release and oh it's this unreport previously unreported report of President Trump calling the police in 2006 like he truly is like the cleanest man

ever when you think of the amount of effort to bring him down and what they ultimately find whether it's business or whether it's this and I just want you guys in the audience to you marvel in one thing. The left is losing their mind about this revelation. They hate this. So it's a good day. It's a good day when the left's upset. Every day, Americans make choices that shape our country's future, right down to which cell phone provider we support. Here's what most people don't realize. Patriot Mobile isn't just a wireless

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There was a huge story that broke where they were people, you know, these petos, these perps were soliciting minors on these platforms on meta. So Facebook, Instagram, they were doing it kind of an open site. So there's these sites have been used for distribution of child pornography. It's a huge, actually, problem. And you can look at Hollywood, the way that they glorifies the sexualization of young people. I mean, we all kind of sense that this is happening. I think sometimes it gets sensationalized, but there is a real problem here. Go ahead, Blake.

Well, I don't know. I see the wheels turning. Well, it's just, it's bad, although, no, I mean, it is bad. Like, there's a lot of bad stuff. I think I still feel I'm, I, you know me, I lean more towards our guests last week. Jay Beecher. Yes, Beecher, who I do feel like we have, I think this Trump thing is revealing, which is that the president was basically correct. He was warning a lot of people are going to be smeared by what comes out in these files when there's not going to be a lot of evidence against them.

And like, so far that's been borne out. What's come out of these files has been interesting. It's been really embarrassing. for some people. It's been embarrassing for Bill Gates. It's been embarrassing for Larry Summers. It's been very embarrassing for Noam Chomsky, which I'm very happy about because he's a deranged left-wing academic. But it hasn't been really revealing of, I think, what a lot of people were hyping that would get revealed by this. You and I, you and I were very much in agreement on that, that it was going to be, like, underwhelming for people. Yeah. There's a lot of crazy stuff in

the Epstein files, by the way. And you might see one person covering it and making a huge deal about it and then you'll go and look deeper and you realize that it's been debunked or it's some like rando emailing geoffrey epstein about a dead body buried in the in the desert but it literally there's no fbi i investigation there's no nothing there's no so so literally and we can attest this we get like so many crazy emails at freedom at charlie kirk dot com like the craziest stuff it doesn't mean it's true it doesn't mean that there's any you know veracity to it but people will email sometimes crazy things. So you, so anyways, the point is, you got to take everything with a grain of salt, you got to dig deep, you got to do your own research. But another person that is in

these files are, is Elon Musk. And that was a little bit embarrassed. And we're, we're fans of Elon. We want Elon to support the heck out of our GOP going into the midterms. But, you know, he kind of framed it that he was, he was rebuffing Epstein's advances to him. A lot of people have done this. And then, yeah, It's in the files. And it's basically, it's the classic thing. He's like, when are you having a wild party? I want to go to it. But he did want to go with his wife.

He was going with his wife. And even if he didn't, it's like, in a lot of the emails, what they're saying is like, oh, there will be women under 25 there. Well, a lot of rich people want to get with women under the age of 25. And that is different from literal pedophilia. Yeah. It behooves me to mention that. It's gross. It's like very, it's unseemly.

It's, but it is legal. It's dirty old man. Yeah, dirty old man stuff. But listen, here's what I, here's, here would be my one note to our good friend Elon, is that there is a porn problem and a child porn problem on X. I think if what, what would be a great outcome from all of this is that you would clean up, just ban porn and everything gets about a hundred times better on that site. Just ban it because there is garbage on that.

There's been numerous reporting on the fact that there is child porn on that site. and if they want examples of this like we can have a whole team send you what you need because it's gross and you have to sort of like the filters don't really work that way that well but listen like there has to be some sort of cleanup on aisle five here when it comes to these social media platforms and i think x should get cleaned up honestly i think it would be a much better platform if they if they got rid of that stuff for some reason it's still on there it's got a bot problem I'm sure it's got a lot of them. Well, and that's, it's just not worth it.

Don't make a deal with the devil. It's not. No, it's not. You got to clean it up, make the site better, get rid of the porn, get rid of the, and, you know, again, this is from reports. Thank goodness, I haven't seen it, but there, the reports say that there is child porn on that side. And that, and that's despicable. And I just, I think all resources need to be flooded in to X, make it clean, make it better. And then you get to be on the right side of this issue in multiple different ways.

It would be helpful because in Europe right now, they're making a push to ban X. It's a very real one. And the real reason they want to do it is because it has free speech on it. And so they want to ban people who oppose mass immigration, who highlight grooming gangs by Muslim rapists and all of that. But they seize excuses for it. And to some extent a lot, like in the UK,

they're using the fact that you can use Groch to change people's photos so that they're in a bikini, which frankly, I think Groch should be allowed to do because you can already do that with a Photoshop editor, and it's also not illegal to do that in a bunch of other ways. But it would probably be easier. Yeah, if you couldn't use it to make actual smut, it would make that attack harder to do. Yeah, exactly. Well, and listen, I just want to be clear, this is not an attack on Elon. I think he inherited this problem. The problem is preexisted, and it's a massive platform with hundreds of millions of users on it.

There's going to be a lot of bad actors. But if you put your foot forward and you draw a line in the sand and say, hey, this needs to be cleaned up, then listen, you're going to generate a lot of goodwill, and the platform will be much improved. So that is my request. I think it would be a very, very solid step in the right direction. The online world moves fast and it's moving even faster these days. That's why TikTok approaches teen safety with families in mind from the start. Because discovery and creativity are both wonderful things,

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I thought it was brilliant. Let's play the clip, and then we'll bring in Frankie 307. Why aren't you playing bad bunny at the halftime show? Because I put this half-time show on. Because this is what the majority, if you're filming me, why are you doing it? Why don't you play bad money? Because the majority of my...

Get out. I'm going to pay first. This is why. I got to pay for it. This is why I said no. I got to pay first. But I'm asking a question. I'm not being violent.

Yeah, I'm going to pay first. I shouldn't pay because I came here for the full experience. I came here for the Super Bowl experience. The full Super Bowl experience. This is the halftime show. This is not the halftime show. It's not the halftime show. I'm going to put this on on my social media.

There you go, baby. Good. All right. There is your tag. You have you might lose a lot of customers. Because you might look like a racist. All right? I guess we'll see.

So do you. Came here for a Super Bowl experience. This is not part of the Super Bowl. So don't come back. So don't come back. Well handled. Well handled. Frankie Bianco, general manager of the Zoo Sports Club.

Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Good to have you. Thank you for having me, guys. I'm honored to be here. Well, I'm sorry that you had to go through this experience. But, you know, to me, when I see that clip, it was like capitalism in action. You know, you were just like, hey, our people want this show. What do you want me to do?

Tell us what happened there and why you chose to handle it the way you did, sir. Okay. Thank you, again, really, for giving me this opportunity. I really do appreciate it because I honestly can't believe that it's to this point so quickly and it's silly to me. But honestly, I can't tell you what happened Sunday without telling you from the very beginning about who we are. The zoo sports club started out as the zoo private club. We were going to be a private members-only club. It was designed that way, and we built our systems and the building and the decor all around that business model.

But in September of 2024, we had back-to-back hurricanes hit here in the Tampa St. Pete area for the first time in decades, and it wiped out our beaches. It wiped out what is very, very important to those who live here. Too many lives were negatively impacted, and we started here. from those people. We started hearing from employee restaurant and bar employees who didn't have a job. We started hearing from the bands that didn't have a place to play. We started hearing from the community that they didn't have a place to go, to gather, to meet, and to just enjoy and have fun. So we as a group, myself and the owners, met and decided that we were going to pivot a 90-degree turn and open up to the community.

Offer them everything that we have planned on being a private club. Now we're going to be open to the public club. We're going to give them an opportunity to come in and play pool or throw some darts or watch some of the incredible local bands. And it didn't take long for us to realize that this was the right decision, that we have formed a really great community-based establishment for everybody to come in and enjoy. there were no rules to who can come in. There were only rules on how to act once you're there.

And it's worked out very well, and we're very proud of what we built. So that brings us to Sunday where, you know, it wasn't a political decision. It wasn't a personal decision. My personal beliefs and political side of the aisle I sit on had nothing to do with any of the decisions I make it work. It wasn't left or right. It wasn't red or blue. It was green. It was money.

And I had about 250 people in the club. And around 240 some odd wanted the All-American halftime show. So that's what I put on. The gentleman who videoed me, there was a friend of his with him. And once he walked away, the friend came over to me to me to continue to try to talk to me about it. And I explained to him, I said, you know, when it comes to business, the simple rule, rule is majority rules, the needs of the many, so to speak. He understood, he shook my hand, he went back to his seat at the bar and enjoyed the rest of the evening. So, you know,

business is business. And that's what I base my decisions on when I run my club. I think that's really well said, Frankie. And so you're just basically saying, so we had this private club. A lot of those people are still your core, your core customers. They made a decision. They said, the vast majority, it sounded like, it sounded like 95, 98% of them were like, hey, we want to watch, yeah, we want to watch the All-American Halftime show. So you gave the people what they wanted, but there was a few, you know, riffraff in there that wanted to cause a stir. And this is what, it's, you know, so this was a business decision. That makes perfect sense to me. You're being a good capitalist. You're serving your customers well. And I also like the way that you handled that.

You said, don't, don't film me, which is just such a rude thing to do in this day and age that people got their cell phones out and they want to they want to make you internet famous in a bad way but i think you know you're you're going to be rewarded one because of the way you handled this you haven't been petty you handled it like a gentleman you were strong and firm he was rude and then thirdly i think i think you're going to to find that like you said in the video you're going to get customers out of this because there's a lot of people in the st p tampa area they're going to appreciate the way you handled that and you stood firm on on your line have you got What has the feedback been?

I know your phones have been blown up. I know your emails have been blown up. What's the feedback been from your local customers and your local community? It has been 98% support. Wonderful. Which is obviously, yeah. Yeah, it's been wonderful. And, yeah, I can't say anything negative about that because it really has been wonderful.

Our core group of customers have been screaming support. my staff, I am so beyond blessed with my team who in the video you can see they're all there. They all came. They have my back. I have their back. And they've been incredible with this because they're being impacted. It's just unfortunate. And really, I spoke to, you know, the owners obviously a lot lately.

And I just want us to get back to doing what we're doing. I don't need to be famous. I don't need to be looked at as anything more or less than I am. I just want us to get back to what we do. We have a lot of fun at the club. We have live music and games and great people come and visit us. And I just want to get back to that. And I just, that's what I was hoping to accomplish by coming on your show,

because I'm hoping the message gets out that we're still who we are. You know, I know who I am. I know who the owners are. I know who my staff is. And at the end of the day, I can lean on that comfortably and believe that it's just going to work out the way it should. Well, God bless you, man. I think you were doing the right thing by your customers. You handled yourself well.

You have nothing to be ashamed of. And, you know, honestly, I appreciate that you listen to your customers. You did the exact thing that the professional football league seems to not be able to do. And you said, hey, they want to see this show. We're going to put it up. No question is that. And by the way, there was bars all across America that did the same exact thing. I mean, Nashville was full.

We got inundated with videos from bars in Nashville and Colorado and other places that were doing the same thing. And I would just say that as somebody who's been through it, Blake can attest as well, Frankie, that somebody's been through the internet swirl and the churn and the outrage mob, it all lasts about five minutes. It literally, it's like five minutes, man. and then they get on to the next thing. They get distracted by the next outrage. And these are all miserable people.

These are people that their whole existence online is to just like throw wrenches into the gears of other people that are doing real things. And that's what it sounds like you guys are doing at the club. You're doing real things for real people. You're creating a place where they can gather. They can feel like a part of a community. And so God bless you. You did great.

And, you know, listen, we put up huge numbers on Sunday evening. Huge numbers. They're bigger than I thought, actually. We're working with a third party firm. I saw that. I was so happy to see that. Yeah. I mean, it's going to be, it's going to end up being, let's just say 50 million. Okay. Let's just say it's going to be 50 million. It might be higher, might be a little less, but it's going to be approximately 50 million. And that's a huge, huge deal. And so there's a lot of people that are going to be emotionally attached to the fact that that was so successful. And we see it already. Like people are trying to say we bought it the feed or there wasn't enough comments. By the way, we ran the numbers. Frankie, and this is, this is funny. we're like almost 60% TVs that we're watching this. Obviously people don't comment when they're watching on TV device, and you prove that at your club. It was not like people are going to be able to jump in the comment section at your club. But listen, I thought you did a great job.

Congratulations. I think you're going to be rewarded, richly, and blessed from this. Remember, five minutes outrage, and people know who you are. I think your character shined through. So God bless you, man. God bless you, guys. Thank you very much. That's really kind to say.

That means a lot. Thank you. Yeah. All right. This two shall pass, and then you get back to doing what you love. All right. Thank you again. I appreciate it, gentlemen. Thank you again. Yeah, absolutely. Frankie Bianco, general manager, the Zoo Sports Club there in Tampa, St. Pete. What a, what a mench. What a great guy. He's just salt to the earth. Those are the people that make this country great. So God bless him. And if you are in the Tampa, St. Pete area, and you're watching the show, go pay them a visit.

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I'm not convinced I believe that number, but let's just assume it's true, which would be higher than what watched Kendrick Lamar last year. So they're claiming it's a success, right? So, but I actually think a lot of people probably because of the controversy might have watched both or they might have gone back and watched both. Maybe they went back and watched ours. But that's the headline. It's coming from Samba TV, which is different than Nielsen. So that, this is what's crazy though. This represents a 30, this is based on Samba's numbers, Samba TV. This represents a 39% decline in bad bunny viewers when compared to last year's halftime. Okay. So this is a quote from them. Our latest viewership insights. reveal that 48.6 million U.S. households tuned in to the Super Bowl, representing a 13% decrease from last year's game. So already I'm kind of like... Super Bowl went down. Not surprising. Not surprising. Chief Seagulls or Seahawks not as big a team. Exactly. So it just didn't feel like there was as much buzz about the game. So it made sense to me there was a decrease from last year, 13% decrease. That follows intuition right there. Okay. But then they're saying more people

watch the halftime show, which is possible people that aren't football fans might have just tuned in for the halftime show. I think usually the halftime show does shed viewers relative to the game because that's when people get food. They might get food then. Not everyone cares. They do the big halftime show to hold the people in. So, but this is what's interesting. So Samba says that while 48.6 million people tuned in for the game or households tuned in for the game, only 26.5 million U.S. households watched the halftime performance. And that's down 39% from Kendrick Lamar's show. This is per them. So a 13% drop from last year's game, a 39% drop from last year's halftime show. Which would

follow because we know, because listen, I'm seeing the numbers on the back end and we're working with this third party group to gather all the numbers. And some of this stuff just takes time to come in. Like we're working with Rob and Parker at RAV. There are over seven, million confirmed views for their coverage, but they think they might get to nine or ten when all the numbers come in. From all the, like Amazon, you know, it takes a while for this to happen. So that would fit, right, that you would think, okay, there's this alternate halftime show, the All-American halftime show, and we know that we got real legitimate, like huge numbers for it. And so Nolte in Breitbart says, the reason you're seeing preliminary headlines based on Nielsen ratings that

look like this, $135 million tuned into the Super Bowl, is due to the difference between viewers and household. Nielsen measures viewers, and they use like an algorithm to do it. Samba TV measures household. Samba TV also gets its data directly from about 50 million smart TVs where the owners opted in to have their viewership habits measured. So it's actually hard data here. So Samba might be, in theory, better data. Now, that doesn't mean that Samba TV is superior to Nielsen.

What's that? I just can't believe that. that there's like 50 million smart TVs. I mean, that's what everyone has now. Opt to do that. No, but it's, so both are respected.

Nolte makes this point. Both data points are respected in the TV and advertising worlds and the data they produce is not seen as either or choice, but as complementary. At the very least, Samba is using apples to apples data.

What he means by this is that Samba collected its data the same way for years. So the comparison from this year's ratings to last years has credibility as far as trends, which in any case, no matter how you measure it, are way down. Yeah, so it's like it's not that whether or not it captures the whole set of viewers, if they're working with the same pool of TVs,

they can at least say, of the pool of TVs we have, we can reliably detect the number of viewers went down for the Super Bowl and then even more for the halftime show. I kind of wonder how many people might have just literally changed the channel because they were wondering, did I accidentally switch to the Spanish language? broadcast. Like, you know, it's always funny. There are just, there are tens of millions of people who are totally out of the loop. So, like, they would have totally missed the, you know, it's all in Spanish halftime show. So, but I totally agree. You never know what people are doing. Like,

we saw that grandma clip from yesterday. She was like, get this off. She knew it was the Super Bowl. Like, it's not that she didn't. But she just couldn't understand anything. And she didn't like, you know, whatever. And that was the number one piece of feedback I heard. I actually went on with Chris Cuomo and Geraldo Rivera last night to talk about this. and they were, you know, oh, what a celebration of the mosaic of America. And I was like, guys, there was millions of people who couldn't understand a darn thing, and they were not happy about it. Okay.

But so just to reiterate the point, Nielsen is building this off an algorithm, an equation that they use, where they put a multiplier on a sort of a survey that they do. This is using actual devices of an actual pool of data that they measure year to year to year. year. Their data says there was a massive 22 million household drop-off for the halftime show. And honestly, it corresponds really, really closely with the numbers that we've seen. Now, again, I'm going to, I don't, we don't have the final numbers. I will just say that, like, what I'm seeing, if I'm approximating, that 50 million viewer mark is, is not crazy at all.

As a matter of fact, it might be a little low, depending on how Nielsen and this third party group end up calculating the numbers. So what we can tell you is that this was probably the second largest live stream in YouTube history, and that's just Turning Points channel. You add Charlie's, you add Real America's Voice YouTube, OAN's YouTube, NTD's YouTube, there was a couple other random YouTube. You add all those together. It very well could have been the number one live stream event in YouTube history. And that means you're beaten like the whole country of India that has like what, 1.6 billion people or something like that. They had a national event. They landed on the Indian moon landing. It was.

the Indian Moonland. Yeah, it was number one. And then there was like some, I think number two was like a World Cup game. Mostly it's a lot of World Cup games that finish high. But of course, keep in mind, some of those might have alternate streams just as ours did. Sure, sure, sure. I think it was a big, I think it was a big win for us overall to be on a million different platforms. You just, you get the whole.

Yeah, the community is coming together. Yeah. You can view it the way you want. We're still having got TBN. TBN was our provider, our platform that had the most TV, like, traditional. Cable 50 million households. I think it's like 70 million. Yeah. So they had the most, so if you were kind of old school and you just wanted to switch the channel on your cable, that was the easiest option. And we still don't have those numbers. So I'm telling you, the numbers are big, big, big. And talking to some of the people in the media world, they basically described this as a tectonic shift. That the halftime show will never be the same again. Listen, I feel bittersweet about that. I love that we have institutions, the country still that everybody tunes in for but if you're going to disrespect such a huge swath of the country and whether you meant to do it or not again no agenda here no hate but if you whether

you meant to do it or not they felt disrespect it they felt disregarded they felt forgotten and so they made a choice and we made a choice to provide something that they could tune in for for more on many of these stories and news you can trust go to charliekirk.com