The Charlie Kirk Show - Solving the Gas Problem + What Happened to Canada?

Episode Date: October 7, 2026

Gas and diesel prices have become a defining feature of this midterm cycle. Energy secretary Chris Wright lays out the administration's plans for solving the problem, and the team explains why anti-energy Democrats can only be counted on to make things worse. Peter Navarro discusses his latest book whose title says it all: "Why Anthony Fauci Needs to Rot In Prison." Two directors discuss the sad ruination of Canada after a decade of far-left rule. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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she's doing an amazing job. Let's just sum it up like that. Despite all the headwinds, all the stuff that he has to deal with, Secretary, welcome back to the show. You are the perfect man for this hour to talk about gas prices. Obviously, we're headed into the midterms,

and that's what a lot of people are talking about. There's a new report yesterday that President Trump's even thinking about reconvening Congress to put a pause temporarily on the federal gas tax. But let's just get into it. gas prices are a little high. What's causing it? And what are we going to do about it? Yeah, President Trump has been focused on energy prices, as you know, Andrew, since the start of this

administration. And, you know, we've grown American oil and gas production. We've allowed refiners just to make some common sense reforms to specifications to increase throughput from American refineries. Fortunately, our refineries are producing the most ever gasoline, the most ever jet fuel, and the most ever diesel fuel they ever have. You know, on the flip side, Ukraine has become wildly successful at attacking the Russian refinery complex. Russia used to export almost as much refined products as they export crude oil. And now their refinery complex has been devastated.

They don't even refine enough for their own domestic consumption. So Russia is importing diesel and gasoline instead of supplying the world with that. China has decided not to export refined products either. And of course, with the conflict in the Middle East, there's reduced exports out of that region. But we're making progress with companies there to get refineries back up at full speed, use the U.S. Navy to escort not just crude oil, but refined products, diesel, gasoline, and jet fuel out of the Gulf. So we got progress going on, but there's a lot of winds blowing in our face from events around the world. But President Trump has been absolutely relentless in saying, yeah, sure, there's problems, but we got to find answers. And you saw

the announcement a few days ago about these release from European stores who've been hoarding diesel. They are going to start releasing diesel stocks into the marketplace. This will help put some downward pressure on diesel. So I want to make sure we don't miss, you know, we don't bury the lead here. Let's go ahead and put 146 back up. This is from the Wall Street Journal yesterday. Middle East crude oil exports back at pre-war levels, analysts say. So the Gulf has rewired its oil export infrastructure to no longer depend on a single route. This is a huge, huge development when it comes to Middle East oil exports. You see that final bar right there on the right. It's back to pre-war levels. How did we accomplish this, Mr. Secretary? And when are our we going to start seeing that reflected at the pump? Yeah, so this is the American military. This is the unbelievable performance, and it's all branches of our military that are participating in this. So Iran is firing at all times, trying to interrupt the flow of traffic. But our military, as you saw in that plot, has oil flows roughly back to where they were. Now, that's relatively recently. So those

ships don't hit shore, you know, until another three or four weeks. And then they've got to go through refineries. Our bigger problem today is refineries, which makes me think of my greatest pro-energy politician Gavin Newsom, who amazingly forced the closure of two large refineries in the last 12 months. The world is short, even more refining capacity than it's short oil. And in California, they're still choking industry. And I must tell you, it's getting tough to hear the Democrats relentlessly talk about how there for low gasoline prices and low diesel prices, where for 17 years their agenda has been stop drilling on federal land,

stop issuing permits, block the Keystone XL pipeline, force refineries to close. In my home state of Colorado, they're desperately trying to close the one refinery in the Denver area that keeps prices low there. They fight every day to reduce energy production and drive prices up. And then they get in front of a camera at election time and say they're for low energy prices. Give me a break. I mean, it's a total hypocritical state.

I feel like every Democrat running for office, they should be asked to that. They should be say, do you support building new refineries in the United States? I know we're trying to develop that one in Brownsville. Are there any efforts ongoing from the administration to just expand our refining capacities such that we know we're in oil. exporter overall, where we would just never have to worry about a shortage of refined products anywhere else in the world? Absolutely. We are working to expand the capacity of our existing refiners, restart a couple of the recently closed refiners, and you mentioned this new project in Brownsville, where we're working hard to get a new refinery built, which would be the first one started in decades.

But with an energy system, as you guys both know well, you just want robustness. You need some redundancy. you need some extra capacity. And again, from the arrival of President Obama, the Democrat policy has just been to somehow strangle the oil and gas industry and the coal industry and somehow believe that would lead to a magical replacements for these energy sources. They just don't exist. But that strangulation, years of strangulation,

just meant our buffer for crisis was reduced so much that now we have multiple conflicts in the world today. and we're paying the price for that. But the Republicans, again, and President Trump are leaning in. We're growing our energy production. We're helping refineries expand. In fact, I was at a nuclear power plant in Ohio yesterday. We're helping that uprate at 200 megawatts of additional power. We visited a steel plant that makes custom steel just for transformers key for our electrical grid. That steel plant was almost closed and killed under Democratic rule as well. So look, the Republican agenda has never been more important. Build big things in America, grow supply. That's how you lower prices. Democrats never believe in supply and demand. They somehow think they're going to choke supply and that that's going to help prices. I mean, it's just, it's just beyond. Mr. Secretary, so to this point in California, and that is a little told story. I've seen that story about Gavin Newsom closing those two refineries in the last 12 months. And they've had others closed. I think they've lost a dozen. This is why the West Coast, and it affects states like Nevada, Arizona, California, obviously, but they have been choking supply with the refineries.

Is there a way that the federal government could sort of declare an energy emergency and force those to reopen? Is there any option there? Or does he control that? We have had a constant dialogue about that. Andrew, you're right on. We've talked to operators. Could we acquire those idle,

refineries and restart them. Of course, they still are subject to these crazy California regulations. They close for a reason because the regulations made it impossible to refine oil and gas at a profit. You know, he wants them to lose money refining in California and store huge volumes. So when prices go high, they'll artificially drive prices lower. So in a case, that is a big challenge. Doing any business in California is tricky. We've not given up. But it is tricky. And I also point out to Democrats, in average in Democrat-controlled states, gasoline's 50 cents a gallon more expensive it is than Republican-controlled states. In California, it's almost $2 more expensive than it is Republican-controlled states.

So the Democrat, it's not just words. Their actual policies drive up energy prices. That's been their objective. That's been the main focus of their energy climate policy for 17 years. and they're just reinventing themselves in this midterm election season. Well, exactly. And it's all political theater. It's complete hypocrisy. They've been forcing this and they're blaming Iran for everything. Well, guess what, guys.

Now we've got Iran oil flows and energy flows through that region back to pre-war levels. It's going to take a little time to get those ships into port, get them, get those, that the supplies refined. We hear you on that, Mr. Secretary. But another thing that I think is getting missed in the dialogue. and it's so important is the impact that the Russo-Ukraine war is now having on refinery capacity. It's the fact that our side is winning. If you ask anybody on the street, they'll say, I'll ask them, why is diesel high?

And they'll just say Iran, Iran, Iran. And that's not true anymore. I mean, it's part of the driver. There's multiple drivers. But now increasingly, I just want you to explain this to our audience, how is that actually impacting diesel prices? because now we're looking at Iowa, we're looking at Kansas, Ohio, these races, we might lose certain races because of diesel. Like, let's just brass tax it. But people need to understand some of these things are outside of our control. Joe Biden funded hundreds of billions of dollars

behind this war, you know, didn't take the peace deals and the off-rams. And now, guess what? Ukraine is being extremely effective at hitting some of those refineries deeper into Russia. Please explain that, sir. Yeah, so refinery, Russia obviously, one of the huge oil-producing. of the world. There's three giant producers. The United States has the biggest, and then Saudi Arabia and Russia as second and third. But Russia has a huge refining complex. So inside Russia, they take half of their oil they would export and they refine it, mostly into gas, mostly into diesel and jet fuel, some into gasoline as well. And then they export those products to the world. Russia was after the U.S.,

you know, the second largest exporter of diesel fuel on planet Earth. And now the Ukrainian attacks have been so successful. Russia not only is not is not exporting any diesel. They've actually become a small importer of diesel fuel from other countries and a meaningful importer of gasoline. Think about that. Wow. Gasoline from other countries. I didn't realize.

From other countries. So they don't export any anymore. That took so much diesel off the marketplace. It's probably the single biggest driver of the tight refining capacity and why diesel prices in particular are so high. And it has been tough. President Trump, you saw, took action a couple days ago to allow the use of off-road diesel that we use on farms where you don't use the highway system. It doesn't pay the federal excise tax. President Trump's saying, well, let's, we're in a crisis right now.

It's planning season. I mean, it's harvest season in the farm country. Let's allow farmers and truckers on road to use that tax-free diesel in their vehicles. This had knocked 25 cents off diesel prices. I should say as well, diesel prices are already down 25 cents from their peak two weeks ago. This is part of this negotiations for diesel reasons in Europe. Gasoline's down about 12 cents from its peak. But in the last two weeks, both of them are slowly going down. I think we will see a condociations. continued pullback in diesel prices and gasoline prices, both from increased throughput in America and from some of that offshore Middle East oil and refined product flows that we have moving again as they hit our shores. So I think the worst of this is past and we'll see better times

coming ahead. But yeah, there's been a lot of challenges in the world. Thank God we have President Trump leaning in on the addition and thinking about the American people and not climate politics. Well, Mr. Secretary, I think you've done a great job explaining the headwinds and also the solutions that are coming online. Two things I'll leave you with. I would love, love, love to see the federal government commandeer those refineries in California. Whatever you got to do. Just make it happen. I bless you.

We will have your back. Whatever hard decisions need to be made to push that through. Secondly, you and Mr. – you and the president, Mr. Secretary, this federal gas tax pause, I mean, that was. would be another huge political win. I think people would love that. Force the Democrats to vote no. Reconvene Congress. It's more powerful to get those congressmen back in Washington to do something powerful like that than any campaign stop or town hall they can do. They want to see people doing things to get wins. And force them to say no. So I know you could have you could help grease the skids there, sir. But we have your back. And I cannot imagine. I cannot imagine, Mr. Secretary,

having a Democrat in office right now with these headwinds, having somebody not like yourself that was anti-energy, anti-fossil fuels in your post right now, because we would be in cataplysmic terms. They would talk about it. They would talk about, oh, gasoline use is down. We're leading America's energy transition. Final word to you, sir.

Anything else you want to leave our audience with? I know your time is tight. Yeah, I had an overseas leader. I'll leave him unidentified who said if Kamala Harris or Joe Biden was president. Oil would be $300 a barrel today. So the energy policies of the Trump administration, the leadership of the Trump administration matters. He's going to deliver for the American people both in Iran without nuclear weapons. That is a massive threat to the planet and lower energy prices. We will see dramatic improvement of energy prices.

Gradual improvement in the coming weeks, dramatic improvement in the next six to 24 months. back to original first year of Trump presidency energy prices. Oh, perfect. Supply matters. America matters. Thank you for what you guys do. It's a great show. Well, Mr. Secretary, one last question. I'm so sorry.

I know you're tight on time, but the Venezuela supply is that coming along as planned? Venezuelan imports, exports of oil are up more than 50%. We believe total Venezuelan country oil production will more than double in the first 24 months after our intervention. that's helpful too for American refiners. A lot of that crude that our refineries were built to refine is flowing into the United States. And just more crude flowing in general, of course, it's just downward pressure on oil prices. So yeah, things are going to Venezuela.

Thanks for asking you. Yeah, thank you, Mr. Secretary, for your time. I know you had a busy day. God bless you. We have your back. And we know you're on the case. So not a better man in the country for it than you, sir. God bless you guys.

Thank you so much. All right. Take care. Ah, that was great. That is critical information for you guys to know. He pointed out a couple very important things. You want to know why diesel prices are so high? Look at Russia.

Look at the Ukrainian-Russian War. That is one of the key drivers now. That's taking about 2 million barrels of diesel off the market. Okay? Like, I think that's per week. So that's a huge, huge, huge deal. Secondly, look at California. Look at Gavin Newsom.

Every Democrat, to Blake's point, It was such a good point. They should be asked, why are you allowing Gavin Newsom and the Democrats in California to take refineries off when we've got high diesel prices, high gas prices? And if you're in California, you're paying $8.00, you're paying. Do you want to build a new refinery? Yes, $8 and $8 a gallon for diesel in California. Again, this is largely coming from Russia. And the average voter does not know this.

They think it's Iran, Iran, Iran. Well, guess what? Iran is back to pre-war levels. or at least that region is. So now they're taking that choke point off the map. Iran will not have that moving forward because everybody's moving their flow of energy in that region outward away from the strait.

Now, we still got the southern portion of that straight is getting open, and that's thanks to the U.S. military. They're doing a great job. But that is no longer going to be such a critical geopolitical choke point in the future because we're now expanding pipeline and flows of energy through different regions in that area. Okay, so that's a good thing. All is, well, it's moving in the right direction.

We've got to stay the course. I just think that's, don't panic. And that's just such a strong way to put it in that we've talked about that the right-wing victory problem, that we won on the border, that we won on getting deportations, that we're dismantling DEI, that crime is down to record, to the lowest levels in a century, that overdoses are down. They've fallen 50% in a year and a half, two years. Crime. Murder's down. So many wins.

And what I think we need, we ask ourselves, how do we turn that that around into, it makes people stop carrying? But that's such a great way to link it to gas prices, because what this administration has shown is that it is a problem solving administration, that they are actually able to look at these unfixable problems. The border was unfixable. The OD problem was unfixable. And actually, they were able to fix them so hard that no one's even talking about them anymore. and why should we not trust the problem-solving administration to solve a basic economic issue like gas prices? We know what Democrats want to do. They want higher gas prices. They want to dismantle refineries. When you complain about gas prices, they'll say, actually, if they're in power, they'll say, that's a good thing because we're trying to transition away from a carbon-based economy.

This is the only party that will say, we see gas prices are higher. People want lower runs. We will lower gas prices. No, exactly. the Dems have been telegraphing this and what we need to do is we need to pull this Clipping team I want clips Of the Dems saying gas prices

We want high gas prices because we want to switch to electric And now they're going out on the campaign trail Stuffing it in our faces and voters are believing it This is what they wanted They've always wanted this Well you got what you wanted Not necessarily in the way you wanted But you got what you wanted

And listen I love electric vehicles but now you can't you can't turn around and use this as an election ploy telling us that oh now republicans are to blame for high gas prices no you know what Kamala harris and joe biden pushed this stupid war in ukraine where you got a bunch of christians killing each other and by the way that's the other thing i want to tell all all of you people that hate the israel stuff and hate the iran stuff and hate the gaza stuff listen i hate it too but if you're going to go sit there and go blame israel for everything on october 7th But you're not going to hold Putin to the same standard who's killing a bunch of Christians.

Who's killed more Christians? Putin or Israel? Okay? Yeah. That's a stupid war. Guess who funneled billions, hundreds of billions of dollars into that? Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. And now guess what?

The Ukrainians are fighting back and they're going deeper into Russia and they're hitting refineries. Because they're going to strangle the freaking beast of Vladimir Putin who won't stop. And listen, I'm no Zelensky fan either. But this is a stupid war. And now it's having global prices impact, right? When it comes to diesel and fuel. So don't turn around and then blame Republicans because it's an easy hot potato, political hot potato. You wanted this.

We're going to pull the clips and we're going to prove it to you and stuff it in your freaking faces. Go ahead, Blake. Just, yeah, it's just the party of high gas prices is trying to make that like deliberately says. It's working. It's working. It's very frustrating. Because I think this is this election. is about the problem causing party versus the problem solving party.

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Let me just tell you that. The title certainly puts it right on the head. It literally gets my blood flowing and all. I'm just excited about that. Without further ado, we have the great Peter Navarro joining us, I believe from the White House. It's very fancy. Peter, welcome back to the show. We are here in front of the West Wing, my friend. I like the way you built the anticipation for the title. I'm going to let you do the title because you built up such good anticipation. Here it is. Here it is, sir. Why Fauci must rot in prison? Right. There it is. And you call him the godfather of the pandemic. I think that is a very fitting title for Mr. Fauci. The floor is yours, sir. Why did you write this book? And why the title? Well, I showed restraint with the title. Bannon wanted you call it,

my Fauci must die in prison. Tony Lyons and I kind of pulled him back a little bit. Wait a minute. He must rot in prison because he killed people. He covered up his culpability in killing people. And then he forced a whole vaccination and booster program on this country, which wasn't necessary in which he'd left over a million Americans vaccine injured. And I built the case.

I'm the prosecutor in why Fauci must run in prison. You're the jury. You will render a verdict. I show at the end of the book exactly how to prosecute this guy. A lot of people think he's untouchable because of the Biden auto pen pardon. Right. But actually, the states, starting with Florida and Louisiana and Texas, can easily make cases. and they're already moving towards that.

So let's talk a little bit about what I believe he's guilty of. I mean, the worst thing is that he was sitting on this pot of money. For 38 years, he handed grants out like confetti to scientists all over American, all over the world, and they pled their allegiance to him. And he gave a bunch of money to this company called EcoHealth Alliance, run by this shadowy character, Peter Dasen, right? Yes. And the mission was a Frankenstein mission.

It was take this money, give it to a Wuhan lab in China, affiliated with the People's Liberation Army, which makes bio weapons. Give them that money. Let him use this Western technology, gain of function, technology. And Fauci actually thought this. It's like, let's turn a harm. bad virus into a human killer. Why? So then he could develop vaccines that could then control the murderous virus. I mean, you can't make that up. And what Fauci didn't count on was one of

two things, and we don't know which it was, that a virus like that could actually leak from the Wuhan lab or the People's Liberation Army Chinese military. actually released it intentionally, that wreak havoc on the world. And so Fauci is the godfather of the pandemic in that scenario. He paid for the research which created this engineered virus. And here's the beauty of the book, why Fauci must rot in prison. It's a tale of two diaries. I wrote a public diary that was published in my book in Trump Time.

That's all out there. He wrote a private diary which Bobby Kennedy managed to find on the servers at his bureaucracy, 1,100 pages. And in that diary, we learned that in January of 2020, which was the dawn of the pandemic, Fauci had 12 preeminent scientists come to him and say that the virus was likely from the lab. Okay? Now, think about that. Fouchi learns that. At that point, he knows, oh my God, I probably created that because I taught him how to do the gain of function research. So that's the seed of the whole thing. And then in Y. Fauci must rot in prison, I show the cover of them.

Because what happens over the course of six weeks is that two out of the dozen researchers, two that said this thing was from the lab, write a paper called Proximal Origin, which says, no, this thing's from nature. worry about it. It can't possibly be from that lab. And Fauci, I'm pointing over here. That's the Brady Press Room right over there, gets up on that stage with the president beside him, waves that paper, and says, see, it's from nature. He doesn't say that he funded that lab in Wuhan, and he doesn't say, and it's right in his diary, that he actually prompted these two guys to write the paper. So it's like he creates the virus, then he covers it up. And then what happens next?

You know what happens. That's the lockdown. Right? And what's different about me and everybody else who could write a book like this is I actually fought him right in this, right in the West Wing here. I was the only guy in the White House besides the president who would get in his face and challenge him. I fought him on the China travel ban. I fought him on the lockdowns. I fought him on universal vaccinations, universal jabs.

I fought him on hydroxychloricry. Good for you. He was wrong. The medical doctor was wrong. wrong, the economist doctor was right. And millions died. We had over a million people die in this country. We had 15 million die worldwide. And in the book, Why Fauci Must Ride in prison, I actually have a special couple of chapters for anybody in your audience who is vaccine injured. You know, there's a lot of people who suffer from long COVID. Fauci tried to tell everybody it was like,

nah, nothing wrong with you. It's psychosomatic. But a Yale study is now proven that it's real. Vaccine injury is real. Long COVID is real. And I have a feature on kind of how people can go about healing themselves. So that's kind of the length of breadth of the book. I'm hoping that the Charlie Kirk Show audience will support this book. My belief is that if we get the book out, people understand the full range of Fauci's culpability, then we'll actually get political action in Florida and Texas and Louisiana where they can actually prosecute this SOB. Yeah, I totally agree. I've always thought that the states can do something. The Autopin should not shield this guy from any prosecution because he deserves it. He deserves it. And you're absolutely

right. And I'm not, listen, I am not being hyperbolic. Your point. I just looked up the details. On January 26th, 2020, Fauci wrote that the first infection appeared to be an early December and was not connected to the market. Oh, so you wrote that privately, did you? And then you got all your scientists to lie about it because they were beholden to you financially, because they relied on you for grants. You had the power of the purse. He extorted these scientists to go along with this wet market theory because he was CYA. It was the classic case of CYA because he funded the research that ultimately killed millions and he funded the research and he tried to cover it up. And that and that that that's a huge lie. And by the way, everything that we've lived through in the last year where nobody believes anything anymore.

I have a brain like we just broke people's brains in COVID. Not to mention we broke the economy. We broke the supply chains. We're still climbing out of this. And so the the ripples that flow off of the poor decisions and the lying in the criminality and the evil actions of one man. I don't know that there's anybody else in the 21st century that could claim. Same as much. And it's just getting to me that the biggest reason, he's an old guy. You said, you know, they wanted to change the title. Yeah, go ahead, Mr. Navarro. Let me tell you, I think that kind of in microcosm, the absolutely worst heinous thing he did like at a small scale. And you go to his diary in private, he admitted first that young men are at significant risk

of inflamed heart. something called myocarditis. He can do that privately. Publicly, he pushed for the universal jab, including young men. And young men died. Young men have inflamed hearts that will essentially diminish the rest of their lives in some manner. He did that. Same thing for pregnant women.

In his diary, talking with one other expert, he knew that there might be risk in the first trimester of pregnancy of miscarriage. Did he tell pregnant women that? No. What did he say? Safe. Virus safe. You got to take it because it's universal.

And by the way, if you don't take it, you can lose your job. And that's Tony Fouchy. Now, here's something, I don't know if you know this, Andrew, but two of his closest people who worked for him, okay? David Moran's, I don't know if you know this name. David Morins was like a special assistant to Fauci. He's already pled guilty and facing prison for obstruction. And you can't tell me that all the stuff he did to hide stuff, he wasn't told by Fauci to do it.

He would not just do that unilaterally. Nobody is that loyal to a scumbat. And then this other woman, Patricia Conrad, she was like, the girl Friday in the old 1950s movies, right? She was the woman closest to him. She saw all his correspondence and stuff like that. She's been subpoenaed by a Senate committee. She won't talk, but we know now that she had eyes and ears on all that communication

about the lab origin of the virus. And we need to get to the bottom of that. I mean, this guy is guilty as sin and the fact that he's still walking free is insanity. And he's rich. Highest paid federal employee. And he was so giddy about being so famous and all the, you know, all the adulation of the pop stars and the Hollywood types. The guy's the guy's a sick, sick man. And listen, the amount of harm that one man caused cannot be overstated.

It's truly remarkable. Mr. Navar, you are probably the most articulate defender of President Trump's national populist economic revival plan. and that is in part tariffs okay now it a lot okay i've gone on i recently i was on with chris quomo and i did a debate on his podcast and he was trying to hammer me on tariffs and it's driving up costs and you guys are wrong and this didn't work i mean it is the number one thing when i go debate folks that they like to pick on and they think that they it's a gotcha i'm a big believer in tariffs i think we need to re-reshore manufacturing vitamin c anything that we are outsourcing to, you know, people that hate us, countries that hate us and use it as geopolitical

leverage against us. Defend the president's tariff policy, the regime. Why is it in the best interests of the United States, especially when we've just come off a high inflationary period under Joe Biden and we still got high gas prices. The floor is yours, sir. Oh, first of all, Chris Corvo, he's a chicken. He won't have me on to debate that stuff. I try, but yeah, he hides behind is whatever. All right, let's talk some serious stuff. And let me take you back in the time machine, back the 2018, when we initiated the first tariffs on steel and aluminum, and then the 301 tariffs on China. Right. Heads exploded. Tariffs are going to wreck the economy. They're going to create inflation. You're going to do this, that, and the other thing. Everybody in the media

was against us. Now, what happened then was none of this gloom and doom was realized. Tariffs don't cause inflation. What tariffs do is they create a protective wall, in the best sense of the word, from the unfair trade practices, not just from the really bad actors like China, but from virtually the rest of the world, which operates under a set of rules,

under the World Trade Organization, which allow, by rule and law, every other country in the world, to cheat America and charges higher tariffs than they charge us. I mean, that's mind-blowing, okay? Think about that. By the rules of the international role, they could cheat us. So the President says, no mass, right? So this term, based on the fact that tariffs were so successful in the first term, president went full spectrum with the reciprocal terror.

tariffs across every country in the world that was cheating us, and there's over 40 of them. Now, what have we seen happen? First of all, there's no inflation from the tariffs. Zero, Zippo. It's fine. Second of all, we're seeing an unprecedented amount, unprecedented amount of investment in domestic protection. And the tariffs are being helped by one provision of the big, beautiful bill, which says you get to 100 percent expense, any expenditure on domestic factories. So I'll give you a little preview of a report I'm going to issue in the next couple of days. Great.

About we've got over 800 projects, 800 projects, manufacturing projects, since the start of the Trump term, over in 47 states that are based on getting our jobs here. Some of them are foreign money coming in. a lot of them are domestic money, but we're seeing in the data, which is the only thing that matters, first a construction boom, because you've got to build the factories first, and then the factory's actually producing. And we're seeing that now, about eight months ago, the best indicator manufacturing activity, the IESM manufacturing index, broke the breach to 50 markets, a zero to 100 index,

over 50 shows you're expanding your manufacturing. And so we saw that eight months ago, and it's just been trending nicely up. Manufacturing is the key to two things, economic prosperity, rising real wages. But the second thing is our national security. Like one of the things the Chinese communists, that's what they are, have been trying to teach us, is that they will weaponize their supply chains. They did it during the pandemic when they threatened to drown us in a society. a virus. They've done it this term by weaponizing the supply chains of what's called critical

minerals and rare earth magnets, which are used in everything from iPhones to F-35s and everything in between. So tariffs are a beautiful thing. They are working beautifully to strengthen this country from a security point of view, but also economically. And we're seeing around the world an acknowledgement that, yeah, this is right. I mean, the EU just recently said is going to put tariffs on China and others because of these large trade imbalances. So, you know, we've won the tariff war. I'm deeply concerned about this midterm election as well as what happens in 28 because the Democrats, all they want to do is like spend money we don't have. And the tariffs will both generate revenue, $3 trillion over a 10-year period. That's real money. And they'll also create millions of jobs.

So that's pretty much the tariff landscape. And I'm happy to share it with you in a friendly environment. Happy to take on Chris Cuomo. Well, I'll text them and tell them that they need to have the conversation. You know, Chris has been willing to debate the ideas. So maybe he'll be willing to do it. I think that that's a beautiful presentation of the tariff argument. By the way, Chris and I exchange friendly, Chris and I exchange friendly fire text. He's got his thing. Yeah. Yeah, I've been critical

of his brother, for example. I wanted him to beat Mondania. I was going to say, he's not the worst in New York. Like he was a disaster. He was a terrible candidate, and the reason he was a terrible candidate is he mismanaged the pandemic.

Totally, totally agree. Peter Navarro, why Fauci needs to rot. Back to that. Yeah, why Fauci needs to rot in prison. Buy the book, support this. man, he's a fighter in the White House, and we got his back. Thank you, Peter Navarro. We'll talk to you soon. I had the honor of a lifetime to call Charlie a friend. And what I remember most wasn't just

what people saw on stage. It was what was behind the scenes. That was an unwavering commitment to his faith, his love for his family, and his genuine desire to encourage others to live with courage and conviction. Charlie believed that following Christ wasn't something you compartmentalized. He didn't put it in a box. He lived it out loud. It shaped how he lived, how he served, how he treated people every single day. Charlie Kirk, American martyr, captures that heart. This documentary isn't just simply about remembering Charlie. It's an invitation for each of us to ask what kind of legacy we're building and whether we're willing to stand firm in our own faith when it's tested. I hope that you'll watch it with your family and have those.

conversations together. Go to angel.com slash kirk. That's angel.com slash kirk. Become an angel guild member. Watch charlie Kirk, American martyr, and help bring more stories of faith, courage, and conviction to audiences around the world. Blake tells me that he has an email that I need to, and he won't tell me. Well, we were just talking about inflation and prices and everything and we got an email from Michael. Dear Blake, please tell Andrew, I just bought a $20 perrito in Prague. in the Czech Republic. So it seems similar all over. Is President Trump president of Czech Republic?

Ah, the $20 burrito. There's literally, I think Danny just sent me a clip of a $22, JD Vance talking about a $22 burrito. I was like, where do you get that $2? When you die, your coffin will be like in a burrito. I'll be in a burrito. It's the funniest thing. When you accidentally go viral and you're like,

I didn't mean to start a whole $20 burrito thing, but it's fine. I'm glad. It was actually, I think, a service to the debate, to the discourse. Speaking of high prices, by the way, we're about to talk about Canada with two very special guests, Miram Meadow and Mike Weary. They are the director and producer respectively of a new documentary called Broken Country. And I think they're Canadian. So I'm going to be respectful of Mike.

I actually really love Canadians. The conservative Canadians, by the way, some of the sweetest people. They're actually sweeter than Americans, and Americans are already pretty sweet. So they're great people. But man, alive. some of the insanity coming out of that country. You like to call it a fake country. It's a real country.

Remember Charlie used to say, where do I, who'd get asked, where do I disagree with President Trump on? He said, I don't think Canada should be the 51st state. We have enough lives here. Yeah. Yeah. But check out this graph and then I'm going to welcome them on 151. If you want to see what insane policies will do to your country,

look at this graph. That is almost the exact moment Canada went all in on mass immigration, went all in on woke. and they used to directly match our economy. Just a little bit below, but basically directly track us. And then, boom, 2015, the world's divided. The tale of two political movements, the tale of two countries. That's where we got two rounds of Trump.

They got a lot of rounds of Justin Trudeau. And now they're still stuck in the mire. Mira, Metter and Mike Weary, welcome to the show. And honored to have you here. You guys, I think, have done something really, really important. Tell us about broken country. why you made it. We've got some great clips we're going to share along the way. Well, thank you so much for having us. So, I mean, the graph that you showed is sort of really

the inspiration where the experience on this hand and all of the sort of micro moments that we experienced the conversations of the realities of that graph that we all sort of endure over here was really the inspiration. We were all just kind of wondering what happened. you know, how did we go from being prosperous, being on par with the United States? Yeah. To that line. Isn't that just remarkable? I mean, that graph, I think that's one of the most powerful graphs that I've ever seen.

And there's a similar graph that Blake has found when it comes to the UK, right? And so the UK has really high energy prices. Maybe there's some different underlying causation. there, but it's a similar, I guess, experience throughout the Western world. Something happened in the collective mind of Western civilization right around 2014, 2015, where we just lost our common sense. We lost our minds. But we hear about Canada.

We hear about Canada sometimes. We hear about, obviously, it gets in the news a lot here over May, their creepy euthanasia program. But lay out other ways. Like, we can put up that chart. But if you're Canadian, how has you? your life, how has your country changed in the past 10, 15, 20 years? I mean, I would really say the last 10 years are the ones to focus on.

You know, everything has, we started this documentary wondering, you know, what happened, right? It was conversations of us sitting around the dinner table being like, what are we still doing here? And, you know, is this the place to raise our kids? But what you've seen over the last 10 years is a rapid decline in the economy. You know, you, that graph is in our film. The other graph that's in our film is Canada compared to the OECD and GDP growth per capita over the course of the last 10 years. And that is flatlined.

Zero. We are like, I think the OECD is 38 member states. We are last of last. And we are last projected for 2030. Last projection for 2050. So, you know, that's really, it's the opportunity. It's the fact of the rising taxes. It is lack of access to health care.

It is what we're seeing on the streets with the rise of the opioid crisis and the financial crisis, which is rampant across the country. As well as the cost of living. You know, not only our standards declined, our standards of living decline, but the costs have risen exponentially and the jobs have disappeared and the incomes that the jobs that are still in the market pay are not, they're not keeping up with the costs. Yeah. Our income used to be, you know, in 2015, it used to match exactly the average medium income in the United States. Now the average medium income is 30 to 40% lower

in Canada than it is in the United States. And most Canadian provinces, like our version of states are poorer than your poorest state. It occurs to me that 15 years ago, or really even when Trump was elected, you still heard the people say, like, if this happens, I'm moving to Canada. I feel like you don't hear that anymore. And you used to hear a lot of when President Obama's campaigning for Obamacare, they would use, we should have a system like Canada. You don't even really hear about that anymore.

But our politicians are now, and our electorate want all the same things that kind of have been plaguing your country and that's really terrifying. I want to play some clips from your documentary because I think they're really powerful. We'll start with health care and move our way to immigration because they're all sort of connected. It's not eight. Half a million people that has disappeared

and we don't know where they are. They're in Canada but we don't know where they are. Canadians are definitely not as safe as they used to be. Firearms are being taken away from legal gunovers. A lot of people feel they can't defend themselves. When you have governments telling you what you can

think what you can say, what you can't say. That in itself is debilitating. Two young ladies died from using safer supply drugs. We've designed a drug use epidemic across the country. Canadians pay too much tax because the government wastes too much money. We give billions to foreign aid, but we can't even look after our own citizens. We are killing old people. If you're boarded in an emergency department, you die. The Canadian healthcare system is not delivering for Canadians full stop. Jeez. You know, it's crazy because you always hear everybody going, well, Canada has their

taxpayer. Now you see these stories where it'll be someone in Canada. They have, you know, stage four cancer. And if they come to the U.S., they can get an experimental treatment for it. And sometimes that actually has made progress and helped extend their lives. And in Canada, they're basically said, well, you can get made. You can kill yourself. or you can wait a year to get treatment.

Is it really gotten, we only have a minute left here, but if I get diagnosed with cancer in Canada, and I'm like, okay, I need to go see a doctor now and get this cancer dealt with. What happens in Canada? Oftentimes waiting six to 12 months for treatment, right? If you walked into a hospital with a gunshot wound or in a car accident, you'll get immediate wonderful care.

I would say we actually just had a post went viral yesterday on Twitter just talking about, it was a stat that Canada as a country, a country of a population of 40 million, has less MRIs, MRI machines than the state of Pennsylvania. And that really does speak to the general state of our health care system and how it actually cares for the populace. There's a myth in Canada that we have dirty oil. That couldn't be anything further from the truth. We need immigration, but I don't disagree, welcoming 600,000 new people to Toronto every single year, year after year after year may not be sustainable. Regulation is a huge barrier in this country.

Every single aspect of operating these businesses has gone up dramatically in the last four years. It's hard to make money in Canada. 59% of food bank users have a post-secondary education. There's a critical mass of households who are one-day-to-law. paycheck away from homelessness. Baby born today, she's on the hook for about $30,000 in federal government debt. We are talking with the filmmakers of Broken Country, which is all about Canada and what happened to Canada in the last 10 years. It's Mirametter and Mike Weary, the director and producer,

respectively, a Broken Country. And by the way, where can people watch this film? Where can they get their hands on it? I want to make sure people know where to go. BrokenCountry.com. Broken Country.com. Broken Country.com. Yeah. So we go to just www. broken country.com. You can rent it. We'll be in theaters

later on, but that's where we are right now. Awesome. So I feel a big question that a lot of, it hits us, is Canada, it's similar to the U.S. in a lot of ways. It had a similar history, similar profile,

and yet it's diverged so wildly from us. And it seems superficially, it should be easier to have that country stay somewhat conservative. You guys have that parliamentary system first past the post. So a conservative party could get 35, 40% of the vote and win everything. So why doesn't that happen? Why do you think Canada has gone so hard in this left wing direction? That's a really hard question to answer. You know, we came out of a Harper government,

which was a conservative government, you know, that led us for 12 years. Some of the, of the most prosperous times that Canada's had. And then we reverted to a liberal government. And, you know, you often see that sort of flip-flop back and forth in any country. But it seems to have, in the meantime, it seems to have just taken hold. That sort of like woke ideology has expanded. You've had a influx of immigration. You've had an influx policy, you know, yeah. Yeah, Mike, on that immigration note, I think that's one of the biggest storylines of Canada. Look at these graphs, 152. This is Canada. Migrants added since 2015. You're talking about the last 10 years. Am I reading this right? Is that a cumulative number or is this like 6.15? It's got to be cumulative, right?

2016 this is permanent immigrants and net temporary immigrants 6.15 million and you I heard that one quote in that in that clip saying 600,000 to Toronto every year is can this be right is it that is it that big more we had 2.3 temporary migrants coming in one year to Toronto and bear in mind country has just over 40 million people sorry not just trying to Canada mostly mostly into Toronto. But if you think about it, you know, it was, it's just been just recently admitted by the Kearney government that, you know, this was a bit of a whoopsie, you know, a whoops. But, you know, the fact of the matter is, is that it, it was never considered that, you know, if you let in two to three, two million people per year, which we were averaging, you know, year over year for

multiple years that they still need access to the same health care, the same infrastructure, the same housing, the same thing that every other Canadian needs to have. And we don't have the resources to support that. And so what you're left with is a group of people who have been brought into the country, you know, sold a bill of goods that are, you know, left in often, you know, poor circumstances, you know, ghettoized situations. Um, but it's deeply affected the Canadian populace. And one of the things that was so powerful is we interviewed 4,500 people, 77 experts, policy experts, but 4,500 people across the streets coast to coast to get sort of a temperature of the country.

And the thing that struck me the most was that there was a generation, you know, this sort of 25 to 45-year-old group that is just, there's a feeling of hopelessness, right? You know, the lack of jobs, the lack of affordability. You know, you add in two million people per year. Well, what happens? Housing prices, rental prices. Everything goes up dramatically.

Of course. We've been the most inflated housing markets in the world. $670,000 is the average price of a Canadian house right now. That's California level. California at least has higher income. And it's affecting your fertility rate. throw up 153. You talk about this homelessness or this hopelessness.

And you look at this. This is so that sort of blue bar, natural growth rate, is basically non-existent every year. It's very, very, very barely above zero. But then you've got net migration and net temporary residence through the route. So you guys, native-born Canadians are so hopeless. and the lifestyle has become so expensive. You're not reproducing. This is just a weird trend that you see with high immigration

that people don't believe in the future in the same way. They don't feel like it's their home. They don't create new life. And it's a real scary situation. Your thoughts on that specific, on the fertility crisis, it's affecting everybody all across the West. But why specifically in Canada do you think it is like that? I think very much so.

And Elon posted a very similar graph the other day. it has become so hard and so unaffordable for the average Canadian to live that if you add on the fact of having kids, it's almost an impossibility. I mean, we're seeing right now, and I interview people in the film that, you know, are working professionals. Some of them are making low six-figure salaries and their late 20s, early 30s, and they cannot afford to move out. Or they are young and married and living in condos. And here we have something different with our housing and our mortgage renewals where the average mortgage has to go up for renewal every five years, the rate. And so the mortgages have doubled.

So living in a 700 square foot condo that went from being $2,000 a month to costing $6,000 a month because of the rate. And, you know, that impacts also fertility and family planning. Yeah. But it is, it is generally a lack of hopelessness. And like, you know, it's become almost impossible for even a, you know, a two-income family to support having kids. And, you know, there's so many families out there that actually have to support with like second and third jobs that, you know, we're very fortunate. We have two kids of her own, we are our husband and wife. but we have two wonderful kids

but it is you know it is hard and it is we're hitting the end of our time here guys but I want everybody to go support this we need a thriving prosperous Canada north of America so you can we can make jokes all day long

but we want you guys to win we want you to succeed we root for Canada broken country dot com broken country dot com please support this film and support two great filmmakers. Mirametta and Mike Weary, thank you so much.

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Jordan's deeply motivated to honor her mom's sacrifices through her own faith, work ethic and leadership. She's a dedicated turning point leader since high school. Jordan now serves as a chapter VP while working to help pay her own tuition, balancing school, church, and turning point with dreams of attending law school one day. And Jordan is someone who works hard to provide for her future, like I know a lot of you students do. It is not easy. It is not easy, but you guys work so hard. And tonight we are blessed to provide her with a $5,000 scholarship on behalf of

Turning Point USA. Presented tonight by her mother. Oh, that was awesome. So that was from our GCU event that just happened. And we have Jordan Capri Daly in studio here. Our vice president of the GCU chapter here locally in the Phoenix area. By the way, the GCU chapter is just on fire. Just on fire.

I remember when Charlie did the prove me wrongs and the people were hanging from the lampposts and like all this stuff. It was a great event. Jordan, welcome. Hi. Thank you so much for having me. We're honored to have you. So you were our recipient of the $5,000 scholarship, which is a new thing that we're kind of doing. And it was so cool to watch your reaction in that video.

So you did not know that that was going to happen. I had no idea, nor did my mom. A lot of people think that, you know, turning point flew her out. But she literally just came out, took off work to be there just because it was one of my events. So that's amazing. Look, look. I think we're going to have this B-roll, 154 as soon as we have it. It shows what you guys accomplish at this event.

So it's funny because we actually have a. babysitter that goes to GCU. She's awesome. We love her. My, my, my eight, six and three-year-olds are all obsessed with her. Anyway, so she tried to get into this event and she's like, I couldn't get in. I was like, well, you could have called me. Maybe I could have pulled some strings or something. She said it was like so packed. Nobody could get into it. And you said 500 people, unfortunately. Yeah, 500 people were turned away. We had almost 65,000 sign up or 6500. Sorry. Well, 65,000 would have been. But 6500. It's great. People don't. People don't understand like how big that is at a college campus you know the the the energy the

level of enthusiasm like look at this that video that video is so powerful and so tell us about what it meant for you in that moment uh tell us what you you know why you got involved with turning point and what it's like running a chapter because i think a lot of audience people out there they they don't really understand what it's like for you students day to day yeah so um charlie came and spoke at my church back in 2020. So that's when I got involved with Turning Point. And then I went to the first America Fest in 2021. And I've just been kicking it since then. I mean, it's been a great time. In 2021 at that America Fest, I met my friend Amanda Jack. She was the former vice president of the Turning Point chapter at GCU. And so we stayed connected throughout the whole entire time.

And she was like, you should apply to GCU. So then I, you know, I'm from Southern California, tomecula. Okay. Great. I was also living in Southern California. And people, Blake loves to give me for that. And I'll continue to do so. So I, because you went to the first Am Fest, I'm sorry, audience, you're going to have to wait. We're going to announce this, I think, on Thursday, but just check, check this out. This is our, our first speaker graphic. It's, it's, it's a pretty good one.

I think it's a good one. It's a stacked cast, everyone. It's a stacked cast. Look, we got some newbies too, like up here. You can't say it, you know. Look at this. Yeah. And this one.

Yeah. He's really selling it. Yeah. I'm telling you. I'm not even if I'm going to, if you turn around that laptop and it's just like a blank screen or something. I can't tell anybody. Because we're announced. We're going to do the big Amfest speaker graphic drop, which is a is a beloved tradition around turning point.

And it's funny. It's an important political tradition. I love it when even liberals and analyze it and they try to see. Washington Post did a whole. Yeah. Who's on the rise based on their position on the graphic. Which we don't think about it like that. This is my first year being on it, which is, I actually tried to not be on it. And then the team, so I was like, no, no, no.

I don't know if I'm going to give a speech or if I'm just going to moderate some stuff, but we're going to have a lot of debates. We're going to have a lot. Because, I mean, sure, on campus, too, this kind of, the fractures in the movement, whether it's about foreign policy or affordability, Israel, all that stuff. You're experiencing that as a student, right? When you go tabling, what kind of topics are coming up? I'd say one of the major topics that always gets brought up is just how everything is so

unaffordable. I mean, a lot of us are obviously college students. and especially at GCU, people are, you know, finding their partner for life and getting engaged and married. And we're all pretty concerned about, you know, being able to provide for our future later and being able to, like, buy a house. The housing market is insane, especially back home in California. Oh, yeah. The unaffordability is just... You should just make your home here in Arizona, which is what I did.

But we love California, and I still have a huge heart for California. I'm not giving up on California. It's just the numbers currently are not in a good spot. But so affordable. the $20 burrito guy second time it's come up today uh but explain this because i took some some incoming for this but you're you're working multiple jobs you're paying a part you're paying for a portion of your own education and i said a 20 dollar burrito you go to chiple you add a you know a tax and tip you're getting close to 20 bucks what explain this though for for people at home that that think that maybe i'm being

overly dramatic and I need to correct you as a young person and say pull yourself up by your own bootstraps work harder save cook from home all that stuff what do you what what would your message be um I would say that I mean for example the $20 burrito example like I get paid minimum wage for my job which is like 15 15 here in Arizona so like that's a whole hour's work for me so like especially Chipotle that kid's meal I get that but um yeah it's it definitely just shows that like you have to work, I feel like, a lot harder to be able to, you know, provide. Okay, but cook from home. Cook from home.

Some groceries can be really expensive. I mean, it definitely just depends on, I know people have their preferences with, like, organic and all this stuff. But, I mean, I definitely try to cook from home when I can. I definitely prefer it. It's obviously much better. How many jobs do you work right now? Plus turning point.

I'm a lead at Discover GCU, so that's like my main job right now. And also with like being able to afford stuff, I try to get a job over the summer at home and like no one's hiring. Interesting. In California. In California. Yeah. And I like applied for a bunch of different things and no one gets back to you. But it's like really unfortunate when you walk into some of these businesses and these people are just like barely doing their job and like half doing it.

And you're like, well, if I was there, like I'd be putting in the time and effort and work. So it's just like it's sad to see. Blake, I've been talking a lot. Well, it's just, what else do they talk about? Students. Yeah, the students. So affordability, omnipresent. And yet at the same time, they aren't fully feeling it yet either.

They aren't in the full sink or swim of adulthood. Are they worried about the job market? Are they, how big of an issue is Israel? Like, give me the whole spectrum. I would say a lot, we've been talking a lot about AI and kind of what jobs are still going to be available for people. And what do they think? It's always occurred to me. that for the first time in my life, if I was trying to give advice to a high school or what should you study, what should you do, I'm not even sure what to say at this point.

And you guys are certainly in the thick of it. What do you guys, what do they talk about amongst themselves? I mean, it's hard because with AI especially, it's always changing and growing. So we don't exactly know what's going to happen. We're just hoping that whatever field we go into, I'm hoping I want to be an attorney. I'm really hoping that that's not going to go away. I can't imagine AI doing a better job than an actual human person. But I would say another issue is just, I think, the divisiveness within just politics in general, but even the conservative movement itself, especially with the midterms coming up, like getting wrapped up in like these really tiny, minute issues that can be handled once the midterms are over,

I think is silly because. Well, so is this an expression of, and this is something I would worry about, especially with AI and so many other things. Do you encounter a lot of either within the movement or just on campus, sort of this checking out. Nileism. Nileism. They seem to not.

They basically just say the future is screwed, so I'm checking out. Maybe they love to do things that are just take moonshots, maybe speculate on crypto, do a lot of sports gambling. Like it doesn't matter unless you just get lucky and strike it rich like you're a gold miner in the 1800s. Yeah. I definitely think some people have tapped out, but there are definitely still people. in the movement and just in general that are definitely very motivated to continue working and just doing the best they can with what they have. So it's really special to see the people that are, you know, keep working at it and don't let stuff like that tear them down.

Keep optimistic. Yeah. Be a part of something bigger than yourselves. Another, another thing that we hear from young people all the time is that dating is hard. Yeah. Social media has made things harder because, you know, we hear from the guys, hey, if I ask this girl out and she rejects me or thinks I do it the wrong way, then, I'm going to find out about it on social media in 20 minutes. That broke my heart to hear that. But because, I mean, what is the state of dating on your campus? I would definitely say it's a Christian campus. So there are a lot of people that are very quick to get engaged and married. Like I have a lot of coworkers that just got engaged.

But I would definitely say it's hard. It really is because whether it's the men not taking the first step or whatever. But I think also when it comes to being a woman or, you know, a daughter of the king, It's also like you have you yourself have to be ready for that as well and be presentable as someone that's worth that as well. You know what I mean? Like you yourself also have to be ready. And you can't just always expect someone to come and find you if you're if you're not ready. You have to be, you know, confident in yourself.

See, this is why I always tell people that when they say it's hard to, it's hard to date. I'm like, you got to fish where the fish are like GCU. There's fish. If you're trying to catch, you get what I'm saying. The point is it matters. Go date somebody at church. go date somebody, like go volunteer for something where you could share values with other people of a similar age, and you're going to have better luck, right? And that's why so many people are getting, you know, ring by spring, getting the MRS degree from GCU.

But it's a great school. Charlie always gotten hot water. Yeah, I think Charlie would bring that up because he was such a critic of college in so many other ways. But he like GCU. But he also would talk about that a lot of the value would have to come from stuff besides education, not the least because at so many schools, you learn so little. But what you are getting is you are in an environment with a lot of other people who are about your age, who are unattached.

Like, get a spouse out of college. That's a real win. Yeah. I couldn't agree more. You should, I think going to college partly to see if you can meet somebody to marry, it's completely okay. I don't know when it became such a taboo. We make fun of the IRS degree.

That's great. My sister got one. Yeah, get a ring by screen. I might as well graduate with two degrees while you're out of them. I understand your actual degree. See, this is why Jordan gets. the scholarship because she's smart. She's smart and she's on it. And one of the conversations that we have with young people a lot, maybe it's less, I don't

know, prominent at GCU as it is at other campuses. But that is, of course, about Israel and foreign policy. And it is October 7th. And I wanted to make sure that we took a moment to remember that horrible day, because it is horrible. Whatever you think about Israel, the fact that some, you know, terrorists breached the border. area and then slaughtered 1,200 innocent people. I mean, that would be, if you per capita, it would be like 30, 35,000 Americans just killed like that in a terrorist strike. I mean, 9-11 was terrible.

It wasn't even 3,000 scale attack in a country basically 2% the size of America. So here's what's interesting. Mayor Zoran Kuwame Mamdani, I always forget his middle name is Qame. Release the following statement on the third anniversary of the October 7 attacks. This day is profoundly painful for so many New Yorkers. It marks three years since the horrific war crimes of October 7. Okay, so far so good. On that day, Hamas killed more than 1,100 Israelis and abducted 251 others.

We grieve alongside our many friends and neighbors who still carry that unthinkable loss. All of that's fine. Could have stopped it right there, Mom, Donnie. But he kept going. The suffering did not begin nor end that day. It instead continued through the Israeli government's devastating, ongoing general. a side in Gaza in which it has killed more than 74,000 Palestinians, including more than 21,000 children, even since the so-called ceasefire, more than 1,400 Palestinians have been killed,

suffering has intensified with every Israeli bomb, dropped on ambulances waiting. It goes on. Anyway, so that is one way to mark a terrorist attack. Yeah, but as we said, this is something we bring us up with you, because it does seem like a lot of our chapters. we know they're split over the Iran conflict. They get split over Israel. It has a lot of online energy as something people like to debate. And you know, you and I discuss this as

it would be very dumb for us to blow up our movement and let people who we know despise America. People, you know, his middle name is Kwame because he's named after a radical left African dictator who made him, made basically won the Lenin Peace Prize to let that cabal of people take over because we're split over how we feel about a foreign country. A foreign country, absolutely.

So when we go back to campus debates, you guys table, how often do you table? Once a week. And when you're tabling, students come up. They want to debate you or they want to talk about an issue. You guys usually put like a sign up as a prompt or something like that. How often does Israel come up and do you feel equipped to talk about the topic? I would say that at our campus, I haven't experienced too much people asking about it. Me personally, I definitely am not as equipped as other people to speak about it, and I'll own that.

So I definitely try to pass it on to someone else if I can, because I don't want to speak on something I'm not as knowledgeable about, because I think it's a nuanced conversation. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's a completely nuanced conversation. I have another question. So Israel, this is, I actually think this is good. I think we, and I've said this before, we talk about peak woke. When we hit peak woke, it was like, what, 20, 21, something like that. And we're seeing it come down. And listen, woke 2.0 is waiting.

It's going to come. But anyways, I think we hit peak, like, Jew slop online. I think it got really, really cringe and just, like, low IQ. It was not interesting anymore. And I think we're on our way down. I mean, it's still a lot of Jew hate out there. Don't get me wrong. Question then.

What about the corner? L7. Are you guys talking about that at all? The first time it was brought up on campus was when we had Brandon Tatum. He was asked about that. So that was the first time it's really come up with our chapter. I mean, we've been promoting the event a lot. So we're excited to get back to regular tabling and debates with people. Good. Good.

So it sounds like Israel's not hot topic. Cornell 7. At least at GCU, which is an anomaly of a campus. Probably. Very much so. So when you see those protests, that are going on at Cornell. I mean, is that something that you guys talk about, you know,

this concept of consent, this concept, because obviously your dating is going to be, but again, a Christian campus, but like, is that a topic that you guys are discussing? Not off the top of our heads. It's not like the first thing we've reached for, but I definitely think after having Brandon

and he kind of made a statement like, don't get all your information off TikTok, which is definitely a good idea. Well, actually, wait, rewind it. Lindsay Clancy, did that stuff come up as well? Yeah, did Lindsay Clancy come up? It's funny you guys mentioned that because we were talking about it yesterday. I think one of our next questions is going to be what's worse for women,

the Lindsay Clancy supporters or the Sidney Sweeney ad. So that's going to be like our next take one question. I love that. All right. So what is your answer going to be? I think it's definitely safe to say that Lindsay Clancy supporters are worse for women. Yeah, well, good. I completely agree.

This is why GCU is a great place. And I'm glad you're there. And the chapter is just thriving. Maybe talk about that of, you know, in the after-me. of losing Charlie, what was it like at GCU and how did the chapter come together and the state of it now? Yeah, of course. So I think being at GCU was probably one of the best places to be when he, when he passed, despite how hard it was, because even though, I mean, he wasn't a big supporter of college, but he did have a little soft spot for GCU. So it was just really sweet being around all of

these people that loved him as much as like I did or as much as the chapter did. I mean, our school really rallied for charlie so having erika come to our tour stop was just really sweet and special especially since he just really loved gccum and had a little soft spot and it it seemed like the students so embraced if we could throw somewhere that b roll up like it seemed like the students really embraced her i mean this is her first stop at gCU i believe right yeah so what was that like uh just watching them interact with her what was the response it was just it was really exciting seeing people welcome her with open arms because i know there's you know there's you know there's you know obviously controversy about that. But she was awesome. She had a great speech. Obviously, I got

called up on stage, which was really crazy. But just seeing her interact with people after was just so special. She had Club America and she, like, spent time and actually, like, talk to them. And, you know, she came to our meeting last semester and took time. She literally spent, like, 30 minutes asking us questions, like, about what we're seeing on campuses, what turning point can do to improve. So it was just really special. She's obviously a pretty big public figure right now. So having her take the time to actually listen to us and see what we wanted was just wonderful. That's so great. So I tell people this all the time, but if you want to be inspired about the future,

just hang out with some turning point kids legitimately. Look how amazing Jordan is. And we have, I mean, you're extraordinary and special, but it's so encouraging to know that there are students like you across the country that love this country, that believe in the future of this country, that love the Lord, that are doing things the right way, working really hard, and I'm telling you, hang out with Turning Point Kids. Come to Amfest.

We're about to announce our speaker gravity. You're going to be there, right? Okay. We're about to our first lineup of speakers and come to Amfest. There will be thousands of students running around. Just come and have a conversation with them. You will be blessed beyond measure. I'm telling you.

Charlie, love to brag about marriages that happened out of an Amfest to meet up. Maybe this is my time. This is your time. Thank you so much for coming. It's been such a. pleasure having you. Thank you guys so much. And congratulations on the scholarship. Thank you. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.