The Charlie Kirk Show - The ATF Report + RINO Amnesty For Haitians

Episode Date: April 16, 2026

A newly-released ATF analysis offers decisive evidence that Tyler Robinson's gun fired the round that killed Charlie. Jay Town dissects the report and explains why he is confident in the case's outcome. Auron MacIntyre talks about a fresh RINO push to give amnesty to Haitians. Plus, Producer Daisy returns from maternity leave for another round of No Stupid Questions covering Hungary, Lebanon, and Sabrina Carpenter (in ascending order of importance). Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And we had Jay Towns on, who's a career prosecutor, has read, I guess, dozens, hundreds, maybe even ATF reports. And he's back and we're going to start the show with him because the ATF report has been made public now. And we want his help to kind of unpack what's in there. Jay, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's good to see you. Good to be back for both of you. So you are a career prosecutor, former U.S. attorney, your contributor for Newsmax, a legal contributor there. So you have a great resume. You have a great background in this. Tell us, what new evidence do we now know about because of this ATF report? Yeah, and as we suspected the last time we spoke, Andrew, that the ATF report, and the Daily Mail headline

were not going to even remotely match. And so, you know, and then the legacy media and the tinfoil hat crowd took that to mean that it is inconclusive whether or not the fragmented bullet found in Charlie Kirk's body was fired from the 30 out six fired at the scene. They took that to mean that it did not match.

In my career as a violent crimes prosecutor, and as a U.S. attorney, I sat on the ATF governance board. I've read hundreds of, and hundreds of these ATF reports. Here's the new evidence. In addition to the fact that as we discussed and as I predicted that this was a 30 caliber class bullet that was found in Charlie Kirk.

Why does that matter? Because a 30-od-6 was found at the scene and that 30-od-6 has Tyler Robinson's DNA all over it. But why else does it matter? Well, the new evidence is that the 30-od6 was operable. So we know that it could be fired. And that there was a fired cartridge. It was a Remington 30-od-6.

What's interesting about that is all of the fired and unfired cartridges, they were all Remington. And so, you know, there are bunter marks on different batches. A bunter mark is, I expect the next batch of evidence to be, that the bunter marks will all match on those bullets, meaning they came from the same box. They came from the same crate, the palate. of those bullets and those are marks put on the bullets by the manufacturer, not by the tool marking from the firearm. The final piece is that we know that the fired or the expelled shell casing, right, the one that we believe the bullet came from,

we know that that shell casing was fired by that gun because of the tool marks that a gun makes when it fires a shell, it makes an imprint on the shell that is unique to that weapon. And so you fire a bunch of other shells with that weapon. And if it matches the expelled shell or the fired casing, then you know that that shell casing was fired by that weapon. So look, it is beyond a reasonable doubt. It is to me beyond a mathematical certainty, which is way beyond the standard of a reasonable doubt,

that that weapon was the one used to kill Charlie Kirk and that the DNA all over that weapon, all over the shell casings, and whether they were spent or not, the towel itself that was all founded, the CCTV showing him egressing through that same area, right? All of that leads to Tyler Robinson. And again, the tinfoil hat crowd, they must be just unraveling this morning because they're, you know, the tinfoil wasn't working this time, apparently. So just to kind of put a finder point on this this you came on the show last time jay and you said the dog that didn't bark in that defense motion which led to all of those crazy headlines was the fact that the defense did

not reference the caliber of the round in question and you said correct that to me is a dead tell that this was a 30 caliber round which was everybody on all the the the the naysayers are saying that this couldn't have been a 30-odd-6. You're saying this report clearly says that was a 30-caliber round, which is what a 30-odd-6 would be. 100%. And I would also say that the dog that didn't bite, what we've seen become public is that the defense and the state had motions in

December and January all referencing the 30-caliber class round that was taken at autopsy. And it references the september. of 2025 ATF report where it talks about all of the evidence that I just mentioned to include, and especially the 30 caliber round. So we were, I mean, look, saying result of comparison was inconclusive. The other thing they didn't say was that in that same paragraph, quote, could not be identified or excluded from the 30 out six. They left that out too.

And let the media sow the doubt that they so desperately need. once we see the report and experts testify about the report, there really is no doubt that was the weapon that killed, uh, that, that was fired to kill Charlie Kirk. Like, yeah. I'm, uh, so it is interesting me that we got this because we got a defense motion back in December. And I guess it's a long motion, but if you've had a chance to look at it, it's the defense seems to be making requests about their right to examine that, like, be, it. present while they're examining the bullet or something like that. Have you gotten a chance to read that? Can you describe what they're looking for in this motion? Yeah. So think about this in terms of any evidence,

right? So when we test evidence, we lose evidence, whether it's DNA, whether it's fingerprints, or in this case, we're talking about virtual comparison microscopy, where you actually are taking, remember, you have a bullet that has been mushroomed, right, and fragmented. They want to pull that mushroom back up so they can look underneath it to see if they can see striations that would match the barreling on that 30-out six. Well, it's possible that when they pull it up, it snaps, breaks, and the evidence then there's less of it at that point, and that is their objection to it. My personal opinion, we don't need to do the BCM testing at this point. I mean, there's just no doubt that that was the weapon that fired the round that killed Charlie Kurt.

Now, you can go happy to glad all day in evidence, but that's essentially what that motion was about. They also mentioned that they thought that there would be exculpatory evidence that they could come up with. I'm trying to find it. I don't know what it would be. You know, there's not an expert in the world that is credible that would testify that this wasn't A, a 30 caliber class round, because all you do is measure the diameter of what is a very intact. diameter of the base of that round that was found in Charlie, right? So that's easy. It's not a 22 caliber class that came from a 22-3 or an M-16, for instance, a 22 rifle. And so it was a 30 caliber class, 30-od6, DNA all over it. There's just too many straight lines that lead to Tyler

Robinson. And we haven't even started talking about all the admissions that he has made in writing to friends and to his lover, Twigs. Jay, your level of expertise on this stuff in the ATF reports specifically are so important right now. So I'm just going to read a few lines from this Fox article that they came out and they're now reporting on this. So they said that the firearms eight, the alcohol tobacco firearms explosives that could not conclusively match a bullet fragment to the suspected murder weapon, but confirmed a match with the spent casing. Okay, so, so, okay, the bullet gets destroyed. It makes sense that it's so badly damaged that, you know, there might be limitations on what you can do with that, those fragments. But they can confirm it's a 30-Cal and they can confirm a match with the spent casing.

In your opinion, your legal opinion, trying cases like this, how important is the spent casing? Because a lot's been made about the jacket of the bullet, the lead or whatever. How important is that casing? Well, both of those pieces of evidence are devastating to Tyler Robinson. When the ATF is the absolute best in the world at Firemark and Toolmark Expert Reports, firearms and Toolmark Expert Reports. And what they look for as it relates to the round is the caliber class of the round and the striations, the rifling characteristics that may or may not exist on that round at the time that it's recovered.

They don't exist as of yet unless they can do the virtual comparison microscopy. They don't exist yet on that round. So, okay, so we know the class of the bullet. Well, what about the shell casing? Do we have it? Yes, we do. Okay. Well, when that weapon fires that round, it impacts with the shell casing, and it creates tool marks on the base of that shell casing. That was matched to this rifle. So we know that that shell casing, the bullet that was in it, was fired by that rifle. We know that that rifle was operable. All of that is incredibly important if you're going to suggest or the defense is going to be

that it was a different weapon, right? Or it was a different type of weapon, a 22 caliber class, you know, an M-16 instead of a 30-iot 6, Mouser. So the ATF again, and don't forget, before people start now shifting their tinfoil hats and twisting their mustache from, well, maybe it was that rifle, but, you know, or the ATF is, they've somehow corrupted the evidence. There is a chain of custody from the medical examiner to the autopsy,

to local law enforcement to the ATF and all the way back. So all of this has been photographed from the very beginning to the very end under a microscope. And so there's nobody that's going to be able to come in and say, well, that's not the round they pulled from his body. It was something else. Again, evidence matters. The rules of evidence matters. The way we conduct ourselves in our criminal justice system is incredibly important.

And it is hard to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt. And I've done it over 100 times. I've prosecuted well over 10,000 defendants, most of them to please. And it's incredibly difficult standard. And so you can't have those little lapses in evidence. That's why the ATF is so reliable. They are the best in the business. And this evidence, this report, which the defense counsel knew in September, I'm guaranteeing,

at least by November of last year, is devastating to Tyler Robinson. Jay, I want to ask about another piece of evidence that came out about a week ago. We got sort of an itemized list of all of the evidence they found when they were searching Tyler Robinson's home. Among other things, FBI agents found a handwritten letter that he gave to Lance Twiggs, the person he was in that relationship with, said, among other things, Luna, which is what he called him. If you are reading this per my text, I am sorry, I left the house this morning on a mission and sent an auto text. I am likely dead or facing a lengthy prison sentence. I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I took it. I don't know if I will or have succeeded, but I hoped to make it home to you.

It goes on like this for a while, ends I love you always, Tyler. I guess this seems like a smoking gun. What possibly could the defense do in the face of something like this? As a prosecutor, have you seen defense teams try to get? get out of something like this? Well, I mean, you know, I mean, let's presume that they're going to attack that Tyler Robinson wrote that note at all. But again, the evidence against Tyler Robinson is so overwhelming that allowing the Daily

Mail or some of these bloggers online with podcasts to go ahead and try to sow doubt about the weapon or about some other person being involved. You know, that is really the best offense, that in delay, because the actual physical evidence, the scientific evidence, the forensic evidence, the investigative evidence is overwhelming against Tyler Robinson. I don't know what's on that list. If the Dremel, you know, remember there's little markings and gravings on the actual shell casings. I don't know if the Dremel was found, but let's just say that it was. I bet you that the next time you had me on your show, that there will be DNA. Tyler Robinson's DNA found on that Dremel tool that carved whatever those messages were into the

shell cases. I don't know if they found a Dremel or not. But if they did, that's just more, you know, in the planning that went into this and the effort and the time that it took, the diabolical nature of Tyler Robinson, that's all coming out. Folks, he did it. That's it. That's the ball game. I say that as a professional prosecutor for 30 years. Jay, you know, I think about you said the best

defense that they have is either to delay, which is what they did with that defense motion, which led to the whole, you know, that's what they were asking for, which led to the whole daily mail debacle. And so I guess my question is, or they're going to point to somebody else being involved, which, you know, there is evidence that, you know, people seem to know in advance that Charlie was going to, that there were going to be an attack on his life that day. There seems to be ample evidence of that. Apparently, there's still open investigations on those fronts. What would that do if they did find somebody else had advanced knowledge and didn't inform the police or maybe tried to radicalize them? Would that be a helpful thing for the defense?

I just want to know what that means in the trial. Yeah, I mean, it wouldn't be helpful for the defense. remember, there's a very big difference between I knew and said nothing, and I somehow engaged in acts and furtherance of the murder, right? Even if you gave somebody a ride or dropped them off or help them hide something, you know, that would all be part of what would be legally a conspiracy at that point. So those two things are very different and is very responsible of the Bureau and the ATF to be tracking that evidence down in the state of Utah. But I don't know that it matters much for Tyler Robinson if, you know, there's 200 more people involved as far as his defense goes.

It matters to us, matters to Erica, it matters to America. But Tyler Robinson's fate, I think, was sealed the moment, well, certainly the moment he pulled the trigger. But the moment that the FBI and the ATF engaged and started doing their job, that's when Tyler Robinson's fate was sealed because those are the best in the world. Jay, last question, 10 seconds here, five seconds, really? really. Do you think he's going to plead? Is that your prediction? No, I think that they're going to seek the death penalty and there's no plea to a death penalty case.

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it's not worth doom doing on some of the stuff you maybe don't like or maybe there's a lack of enthusiasm in the base. There's so much good stuff happening every single day that if you would imagine comparing and contrasting that to what would our country be like if Kamala Harris was president. Yeah. That you need to be aware of these things because it's critically important that you understand the good things that are happening and then maybe don't get the headlines. Yeah. So we have they're just, it's an 800 plus page report that they released. Todd Blaine released. And what they're showing is things like there's the National Abortion Federation. They basically had the DOJ on speed dial. The DOJ was their personal law firm.

We have an email where a DOJ prosecutor, one of the fired one, Sanjay Patel. He referred to the National Abortion Federation's Michelle Davidson as a, quote, MVP, because what Davidson would do is send in pro-life activists saying, hey, we don't like these activists. You guys should prosecute them. And it says, quote, which usually result in an investigation prosecution. Can we just pause for a second here? So the Biden DOJ basically outsourced investigatory power and ability authority to the National

Abortion Federation, an organization that all it does is push abortions, the killing of babies, innocent unborn children, were getting butcher. this organization. That's what they promote. And they had a direct line into the Biden DOJ to then go after pro-lifers. Complete with a dossier on these people. So yeah. We have

what I just said to you guys. Throw it up. They're literally putting these like dossiers together shows a person's face, shows a close up, has their description, physical appearance, spouse, family, close associates. These are put together by a separate actor, the National Abortion

Federation and shipped to the DOJ, hey, here's this person. Please go after them. Yeah. And so the FACE Act is, was weaponized. What does the FACE Act stand for? I didn't look back. Freedom of access to clinic entrances, I think. And it basically, it's the same bill they actually used to go after Don LaMond, because the left wanted to go after people who protested abortion clinics. And so the right sort of, as their pound of flesh, took out also protesting at churches. So this, this was, I mean, you look at this dossier, by the way. This is about the same thing that these militant far-left groups do to our citizen journalists, by the way, that go out there so that when these activists are

on the streets in Minneapolis or whatever, they can identify Savannah Hernandez or whoever, Cam Higby, Nick Sorter. So this is what these militant left groups do, is they create a dossier so that you can attack them, and then in this case, actually wield state power with prosecution. So they would actually, we have a jury questionnaire, by the way, in this report that the DOJ put together for one of the FACE Act cases involving pro-life defendants, Calvin, Zastro, Chester Gallagher, Heather Edony, Joel Curry, Justin Phillips, Eva Edel, and Eva Zastro. So those are the good guys. Those names I just named. Those were pro-lifers that were getting prosecuted by the DOJ over apparent FACE Act violations, which was probably a hoax. And the jurors were asked if they get their news from Daily Wire, Matt Walsh, and Daily Signal. So these were the groups that were aggressively reporting on the weaponization of the FACE Act. This is shocking stuff.

So the DOJ works hand in glove with a militant pro-abortion group that likes to kill unborn, innocent babies. Then they get dossiers on who to prosecute. and then the DOJ puts out a jury questionnaire in the case to make sure they're not getting any news about their weaponization of the DOJ with these FASAC violations. There's so much stuff we could get into.

Like people they were prosecuting, they were doing similar to J6 where you could have easily just indicted this person in a normal way, but as a stunt, they'll send heavily harmed FBI agents to kick down their door while their kids are there all screaming. They did that to,

a man, I believe, Paul Vaughn in Tennessee. They did that with him, Mark Howick, another one. All of this outrageous behavior. Another thing that should be flagged, and this merits follow-up investigation, a lawyer for the National Abortion Federation,

their chief legal and strategy officer, was testifying before Congress to Chip Roy, and claimed to them, actually, you know, we had pretty much no influence over Biden-Face Act prosecutions. So they claimed publicly to Congress, they were not able to influence these things.

Now we know that was a lie. They were basically, they had a practical assembly line for these prosecutions direct to the DOJ's prosecutors. They outsourced their investigation. The DOJ outsourced it to them and then was saying, these guys are great. They send us all this info on who we can prosecute. Calling them MVP's. Yeah. And then they lied about it because of course, that's what cults do. That's what baby-killing cultists do. I mean, evil's going to behave evil. That's what happens. The report, just in conclusion, the Biden-D-O-J violated the rights of Americans by its biased enforcement of the FACE Act. So that's point one. Point two, the Biden-D-O-J collaborated with pro-abortion groups to track pro-life activists and their First Amendment activity. So Todd Blanche and the

DOJ is saying this is their First Amendment rights that were violated. And yeah, you saw a tweet by Mary Margaret Olinh, who's done a great job covering this. Point three, the Biden DOJ prosecutors engaged in inappropriate conduct in comments, which is clear. Four, the Biden DOJ pursued more severe charges and significantly harsher sentences for peaceful pro-life defendants than violent pro-abortion defendants. And maybe that's worth getting into a little bit. You will remember stories of... All of these pregnancy centers getting firebombed. The worst

thing any of these people did is basically they did a, you know, when college students will occupy the president's building on a campus. They were doing that in abortion clinics. The worst thing any of these people did is they disruptively occupied a clinic. And then, yeah, we've had multiple cases. Yeah, pro-abortion

zealots will sucker punch people praying outside of clinics. The firebomb clinics. Firebom. Well, the pro-abortion ones are not. Oh, yeah, the crisis pregnancy centers. Yes. So, of course, another thing we'd be remiss if we missed.

We have assistant U.S. attorneys, the assistant prosecutors in these cases. They're internally complaining that they, quote, ended up with a very Catholic magistrate, a judge, on duty this week. He was very particular about the bond conditions and not infringing on defendants' First Amendment rights. Don't you hate it when that happens? Don't you hate it when there's actually somebody with principles and scruples? Don't you hate it when they're defending the First Amendment? Jesus, Louise. But I just want to, I want to underscore that fourth point that the Biden DOJ pursued more severe charges against peaceful pro-life activists than they did for violent pro-abortion defendants.

So you are, you would get a harsher sentence for praying too close to a. an abortion abortion clinic. Or, yeah, to Blake's point, sometimes they would do sit-ins and they understood that they were maybe going to get arrested, but it was kind of a,

it was a protest. Like you're trying to disrupt the killing of innocent life. So they would sit there and they would pray. They would get a harsher sentence than the people who firebombed pregnancy centers. Just like,

let that sink in. And point number five, the Biden DOJ sought to provide funding to pro abortion groups, which of course, that's what they do. So if you are a 501c3 that likes to murder little babies, they're going to make sure that you get all the money and funding you need, just like they give all the money and funding they need to the groups that help illegals game our asylum system. So this is a really huge story because these people are now fired. They are gone. They have been disgraced. I'm genuinely angry. I'm reading the Mary Margaret's

uh, throw hands thread on X, where she's describing these people have been fired from their jobs. We see potential threads where, you know, maybe you could indict this person, National Borship Federation. They actually has already been accountability for real people who helped cause this to happen.

And then these replies are these random whiner's saying, nice report. Nothing will happen. Oh, that's a cool. Another report where no one will be held accountable. Guys, they held the, that Sanjay Patel,

the first guy we mentioned, they fired him. He lost his job because of this misconduct. That is actual accountability. That is actual progress. And you can't ignore those things because you want to complain. Well, and that's the thing. I just want to make that point one more time. If Kamala Harris had won or if we get Democrats in power again,

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Strongsell.com forward slash Charlie. Check it out right now. So RFK has been testifying on Capitol Hill this morning. And there was two pieces of news that I want to tie into the fact that this is the most pro-life administration I believe that we've ever had, at least in modern American history, since the passage of Roe v. Wade, certainly. And this one was really shocking, Sotsix. Their vision is one family for one child. Right now we have a two to one ratio.

And part of the reason for that is that the Biden administration was excluding an entire class of people because of their religious beliefs. We are and told the states to actually pass laws instructed them to, past laws, refusing families who had religious, certain religious beliefs, mainly Christian religious beliefs, not be allowed to have children. And that dramatically constricted the pool of available parents. So I want to make sure you caught what he just said there at the end. The Biden administration was restricting adoptions for Christian families. We are a Christian nation. so you just took off a huge swath of people that wanted to adopt babies. That not only doesn't make any sense, it's insane.

That is diabolical, I would say. Christians are the ones most prone to have their hearts moved by God to go adopt a baby that needs a home and that needs love. And they were biased against Christian families. So once again, tying it into our theme, if you're tempted to comply, complain about this or that, and that's fine. You can have policy disagreements. You can complain about certain things. You can hold the administration's feet to the fire. I think that's all fair. But just remember what we were living under, this sort of soft tyranny, this behind-the-scenes tyranny, where a Christian family would have gone and said, our hearts are moved to adopt a baby that

needs a family. And the Biden administration actively worked to exclude Christian families from the adoption market pool that's so evil it's hard to put into into words so rfk was making a point that more babies are being adopted now and you can have multiple maybe in some in some homes overturning by denier policies i i don't know if you have a thought on that you're the catholic but i know this is near and near it's just it's just very evil what they do you see this with the story we just talked about you can mix in a million others we'll get into it when the next segment with their approach on amnesty and all of that. It's just this, there's a lot of malice that drives a lot of left-wing policies in a way that is very, the anti-Christian bias of the

Biden administration and all the little apparatchiks that he staffed his government with, because let's be honest. I mean, Biden was old and senile. He wasn't running all this. This was a bunch of young radicals that have a very clear vision of the future of this country. One, they want mass immigration. They want to replace you. They want, anybody of European descent and heritage, you are an impediment to them doing whatever the hell they want to do with this country. So they want to get rid of you. We're going to get into that next hour with Orrin McIntyre. Number two, they don't like Christians. Why don't they like Christians? Well, because Christians tend to vote Republican, first of all, and Christians stand in the way of their

communist takeover of the country. So they don't want babies going into Christian homes, even if they need adoption, even if they need love, even if they need a roof over their head, they would rather not allow more babies to become Christian. Because that doesn't play well with their future vision of America. The left, since the French Revolution has always been anti-Christian. They were in France. They were in Soviet Russia. It has always been a core part of its agenda. I totally agree. And here's another bombshell from RFK's testimony that I think plays into this thing very well. Sop 5. It was a humanitarian crisis of what my predecessor engineered.

With the Biden administration, they lost 425,000 children. They lost them because they ended verification of sponsors. People were just showing up with fake IDs. There was no genetic testing. There was no income inquiries. There was no ID verified validation. and we are now in the process of trying to find those children. We've been able to locate 138,000 of them.

So just to wrap this up, and there was some breaking news. The Trump administration has located almost 140,000 missing kids out of the 425,000 missing unaccompanied minors that the Biden administration led. They were just waving kids in, alleged kids in, and just letting them disappear into America. No follow up, no tracking. The humanitarian, the compassionate party, just loses half a million kids. And no idea where they went. And the Trump administration is doing the hard work to identify and locate them. It's a painstaking process, but they've identified 138,000 of them.

Most pro-life administration in living memory, I would wager to guess. And now breaking news. We have breaking news just happened a few minutes ago. So we covered with the chapter leader at Utah Valley the other day how they got a commencement. speaker who had attacked Charlie after his death, tried to explain why people might be celebrating his death, why he was a figure of bigotry and hate. And we criticized that. And Utah Valley just announced minutes ago they will have no commencement speaker for this spring. Now, here's what's annoying. They say it's not because, oh, we picked a terrible speaker and that was our bad. They

say they have increased safety concerns about what happened. So, of course, basically, you know, it's our fault. We were engaged in menacing behavior, they say. But regardless, it's a speaker they shouldn't have chosen. Yep. Good. Listen, this was. Nobody was making any threats about this. Nobody was ever threatened. Not on the show or anywhere else. We were saying it was, it was a bad idea. Yes. Well, anyways, hallelujah. Good. I'm glad that got the memo. And thank you also to Senator Mike Lee, who's been very loud about that in Utah. America is entering its 250th year, and the direction of this country is being decided right now,

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You know, I can't even hear that classic clip without thinking of the song that came out to. They're eating the dogs. All right. There's some unfortunate news, but listen, we just got to cover it. We just said no black pill in, but we do have to cover bad news so we can stop it. We have to hold people accountable. Here to help us do it as Orrin McIntyre. He's a columnist and Blaze TV host of the Orrin McIntyre show.

Orin, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. it's good to see you. Thanks for having me, guys. So you put out a tweet this morning with the names of six GOP traders, is what you called them, and I agree. That would be rep Maria Salazar, who we've covered extensively on the show, rep Don Bacon, rep Brian Fitz, I guess that's his handle, rep Mike Lawler, there's some others. We've got the names there for you. The phone numbers, I'm so glad that you led this charge because there has been a vote to extend temporary protected status to hundreds of thousands of Haitian migrants that Joe Biden led in. Explain what happened here and their rationale and why you're so passionate about this issue. Well, a lot of people have given the idea that these are valuable workers.

They're working in the healthcare industry, making sure to take care of our seniors and we have to keep them around because also it's just too dangerous. We actually had some representatives say that it was a death sentence to send these people back to Haiti. The incredible thing is, you know, the problem with Haiti, the reason it's dangerous is because Haitians live there. It's a, on an island that is divided between two different countries. And one of them is just fine. The Dominican Republic, I wouldn't want to live there, but it's okay. And then there's Haiti. And it's been a nightmare its entire existence.

So it's not socioeconomic factors. It's not the land. this is a group of people who have a high propensity towards violence and they don't belong in the United States yet they're kept here in fact there's such a danger involved that recently a woman in my area of florida was beaten to death with a hammer by a Haitian immigrant we do not need people here who have a violent history who don't belong here and the idea that because it's too dangerous to go back to the very place that was made dangerous by many of these people or that somehow keeping them around for economic benefit is ultimately justified is insane. This is not why people

supported Donald Trump. It's not why people supported the Republican Party. It's exactly the opposite. And the fact that Maria Salazar is yet again leading the charge on a horrific immigration-related bill really tells us that we need to be very careful about who's getting endorsements and who's ultimately getting support from Donald Trump and the Republican Party. We do not expect this. We shouldn't have to live like this. This is insane. Yeah. And you see the B-roll right here, Oren, of that apparently is a legal that was given, that was allowed in during the Biden years and bludgeoned a woman to death. And that's close to where you live. I mean, that's, that really brings it home. And there was no, we can't tell from the footage that anything inside of this

violence. It seems to be a completely random act of violence. And we have instance after instance, after instance of law-abiding peaceful Americans that have been killed, maimed, murdered by illegals, by foreigners that have no business to be here. Illegals led in by Biden, given quasi-amnesty, given asylum seekers, given free housing. And yeah, it's every what, every month, every two months, we just drumbeat another one of these murders. Yeah, well, and what's insane about this. And actually, J.D. Vance has made good comments about this, is the left will come back, Oren, and they'll say, well, they aren't illegal. they're legally here because of temporary protected status. What's your response to what's your response to that?

I think we need to get over this obsession with proceduralism. Okay, that's not okay that these people are my country. I don't care if they're here legally or not. They don't belong here. And you can't just wave a wand as the Biden administration and say, because we sprinkled some fairy dust over these people, now they're here legally. No, absolutely not. They're not citizens.

They didn't go through a process. They do not belong here. And even if they had gone through the whole process, I wouldn't care because I care about the well-being of my community. I've driven by that gas station many times. This is not some theoretical thing. This is not some abstract discussion on the nature of American immigration and who we believe ultimately to be a citizen and what makes an American. Those are all really important discussions.

But this is brass tax safety of people. We just saw a child, you know, slashed in the face by an immigrant. We got the police body cam footage from the whole thing. Luckily, that officer shot that woman for doing so. But ultimately, this is something we're seeing day in and day out. The American people are living under the tyranny and violence of illegal immigration and, sadly, legal immigration. People should not be coming to this country right now. We are full.

We have to deal with the violence that is already here. The poverty is already here. We're talking about in the Haitian community, a community that is over 60% on welfare, on some form of government subsidy. These people are not adding to the economy. They're not adding to the American dream. They are taking it away. There should be no room for this. I don't care what kind of paperwork was waived over them when they walked across the border or flew in.

It's just truly like it is mental illness as a country to do this. To take people who we can know, we can run the numbers, they will be dependents. They will on average be net negatives for this country to pay, to bring them in, pay to support them. pay to investigate the crimes we commit, pay to imprison them, all of these things. I really want to dive into specifically the insanity of this temporary protected status thing that they're trying to extend by statute for them. Haiti has been under temporary protected status since 2011, because there was that earthquake in Haiti, 2010.

That was 16 years ago. A person who was born after that earthquake is nearly old enough to vote. That is not temporary. That's just permanently saying we're allowing anyone from this bad country. country to come here. We have worse examples. If you want to know how insane this program is, a lot of these countries were trying to remove it. One that we haven't tried to remove it yet is El Salvador. Guess how long El Salvador has been under temporary protected status? No idea. 2001. So 2001, you are 25 years old if you were born after that order came down.

And on top of that, it's El Salvador. El Salvador is safer than the United States. El Salvador is great right now. Why do we need any temporary program to keep an illegal immigrant from El Salvador from going back to the country they came from? They'd be better off. So why are six GOP House members? Again, Don Banked,

Brian Fitzpatrick, Mike Lawler, Maria Elvirus Salazar, who by the way said, the Dignidad Act is not amnesty, and then she turns around and tries to give amnesty to hundreds of thousands of Haitians. Carlos Jimenez from Florida's 28th and Nicole Maliatakis from New York's 11th District

why are they throwing in with Democrats to extend temporary protected status? Again, I think a lot of them will give you some kind of false answer about the dangers of the community, the dangers to the community if they go back or what their economic output is. The truth is ultimately these people are trying to get votes. They understand that if they stay long enough, these people are going to get some kind of citizenship. They're going to get some kind of amnesty. We've got the 14th Amendment and the birthright citizenship case in front of the Supreme Court right now as long as these people have kids in the United States, they're going to be here and those kids are going to get the vote.

And these people know that ultimately this is going to secure them political power. That's what it's really all about. It's ethnic patronage that's going to guarantee you some kind of political power down the line. And it's a betrayal of Americans. It's a betrayal of Republican voters. Orrin, there was some comments here by Pope Leo that are a little bit frustrating to hear. And I'm not Catholic. Blake is Catholic, so he's my cover.

Makes a lot of annoying. comments. So let's go ahead and play SOT 7. I know that in Europe there are many times fears that are present, but oftentimes generated by people who are against immigration and trying to keep out people who may be from another country, another religion, another race. And in that sense, I would say that we all need to work together. One of the values of this trip is precisely to raise the world. world's attention to the possibility that dialogue and friendship between Muslims and Christians is possible.

So, lifting up Lebanon as an example of why it's okay to have a bunch of Muslims immigrate into Europe, and it's all going to be okay, Oren. Your response. Yeah, I think Europe is just doing great with all those Muslims that haven't been any problem, the large number of English girls who have been raped and had that covered up by the government. I'm sure that they really believe that ultimately Islam and Christianity can coexist peacefully. Obviously, this is ridiculous. And, you know, both American Protestants and Catholics need to bond over our habit of ignoring what the Pope says. He's been wrong about this

pretty much every turn. You know, the Catholics have another liberal Pope on immigration. No surprise there. We should not be influenced on this in any way by the Pope. You know, it's interesting. I was on with Chris Cuomo on his show yesterday. And he sort of said, as a Catholic, I'm offended that some of the comments that J.D. Vance made about the Pope and the delineation between, you know, I guess his theological commentary and his political commentary. But it all kind of feels like it's, you know, it's political, candidly. You know, you might couch it in theological terms, but it feels political. Now, Blake gets a freebie because he's Catholic, but, Oren, you and me, we are not Catholic. Where do you think the line is as Protestant? I mean, I want to. I want to bring the Catholics and Protestants together. I feel like there's this effort to sort of put a wedge between us. So we're very ecumenical on this show. But man, if he keeps saying we need to just let in all these Muslims to come into the West,

I feel like I have to speak up because this is getting out. This is getting out of control. What's your take as a Protestant? I think it's really important. And I think many Catholics already know this. But I think it's important that everyone drives this home for us to just recognize that there are huge problems inside of every denomination right now. I'm a Southern Baptist, and while luckily we don't have someone like the Pope up there talking, it's not like evangelical Christians don't have some pretty bad

examples going around right now. So it's okay if we just all take a moment to maybe get that log out of our own eye before we start yelling about the spec in each other's eyes. I think both Protestant and Catholics have a lot of work to do. That said, Catholics need to become, you know, more comfortable with people going after the Pope when he says something. stupid. If you turn around and tell me that, you know, Paula White is saying something crazy and needs to be ignored, that's not going to offend me as a Protestant. I'm going to be okay and my feelings will not get hurt. I'll just agree with you. And I think we need to treat the Pope the same way. I understand it's a little harder for Catholics. They have one unified command structure.

So, you know, any individual person isn't as embarrassing, you know, for the different Protestant denominations as where the Catholic really only have one guy that they kind of are looking towards when it comes to this kind of stuff. But we all need to be able to take a step back and say, look, let's solve these problems inside our own churches. And if someone notices that one of the people who are leading one of our churches or the entire church is saying something dumb, let's not get offended when they point out and that's correct.

It's okay to correct these things. If the Pope is going to come out and say something stupid about immigration about politics, then it is our right to say, no, that's dumb. And you're entering into a realm you should not be playing in. And that's going to come with consequences. We're going to push back on that. And that doesn't mean we're attacking Catholics worldwide anymore than having comments about Paul White is attacking, you know, all Protestants.

It's okay. Blake, you're Catholic. It's just, yeah, it is what frustrates me the most. I'll have a lot more tolerance for the Pope weighing in on something that actually matches with two millennia of Catholic teaching because the core of the church's truth claim is that it's had the same message for a long time. So, for example, I checked, and the Pope also criticized when J.B. Pritzker legalized assisted suicide in Illinois, for example. I'm glad he did that. Assisted suicide is bad. Christians, the Catholic Church, has always opposed assisted suicide, always deposed abortion. And if you want to say, we've always favored peace, that's fine. But saying, actually, you have to embrace mass immigration from Muslim countries, you have to have amnesty for illegal immigrants. That is not a Catholic position. That is, Just a lib position.

Well, that's what's interesting. You know, what about the reconquest of Spain? It was a seventh century effort to push the Muslims conquerors out of Spain. Is that a bad thing that Spain is now Christian and Catholic, for that matter? I mean, I just, none of this actually comports with what I've seen historically. I mean, I think there's another issue with the Pope that drives a lot of us nuts is that this selective outrage, where he's going to Algeria, he's talking about Muslims and Christians uniting and coexisting in peace and harmony, which has not been the case anywhere. Lebanon, by the way, used to be almost 70% Christian. Now it's about 29% Christian because

guess what? A lot of Christian Lebanese have had to flee their home country because of persecution, harassment. And it's not a nice country. It used to be. Certainly not anymore today. It's had civil wars. Take a wild guess who the factions in those civil wars are. And it's a It's had a lot of violence. It's not very economically well-off. And it's also politically split. The classic reasons diversity is not very good. Their politics is just entirely sectarian,

and so you can't have normal political debates about anything. That's one of the obvious downsides of diversity, writ large, all over the world. And it's annoying and, frankly, a little obnoxious and clueless for the Pope to say, why don't you all look at this country that's not awesome and try to imitate them? Final thoughts to you, Oren. Is diversity our strength? And what do we do about it? No, not at all. And the funny thing is the Catholic Church recognized this. Remember, Europe would be Muslim, if not for Charles Martel killing a lot of Muslims. If Charlemagne had not ultimately conquered the Saxons with the sword, they never would have become Christian. Let's not even start with the defensive wars of the Crusades. Obviously, there's a long history of the church being involved in very serious conflict, in often cases, protection of the faith of believers.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with fighting against those who oppose and want to destroy christened up. That's actually what the church should be there to do. So when you have a pope running around saying, actually, this is never justified and you have to let Muslims into your land, he is literally working in the exact opposite way that the Catholic Church, has worked for centuries. There's simply no reason to be pushing this unless you're just pushing a liberal worldview under the guise of Catholic theology. And I think pretty much everyone, Protestant and Catholic, is exhausted with that.

Orrin McIntyre, great stuff. Check him out at the Orrin McIntyre show at Blaze TV. And he's also columnist there. Great stuff, Oren. Thank you. Thanks for having me, guys. All right, this might seem weird coming from somebody who's a little bit younger. but if you are about to turn 65 or if you're already on Medicare, this message is for you.

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and you've been gone for three months. What happened? And I never thought that I'd be gone for three months, but then you just have the most perfect little baby in the world and you're like, oh, I, I predicted you are going to come back at all. I never thought that was the case. I did take off a little more time than I thought I was going to. But I didn't just not work. Also, so much of our work has to do with the news and politics that I was just like out of the living completely. Did you find that your happiness quotient was higher? 1,000% I was like, oh, you don't have to be like bogged down by the news every day. It was, it was amazing.

But then you kind of step back into reality and you're like, wait, gas prices are like way higher and were in some sort of war and something happened in Hungary. And also Trump is tweeting at the Pope. So I missed a lot. And posting Jesus memes. It was actually just a Red Cross doctor. But he thought he was a doctor. Is that how you learned about the Iran thing, as you just noticed the gas prices changed a lot?

Well, there was some bombing with Lebanon first. No. No? No. After? Iran. Iran. Okay. Straight of Hormuz.

Okay. Yes. Yeah. So I've been seeing, the way that I'm seeing this is like people that I follow just in my life. So they're on all sides of the spectrum, posting outrage on their Instagram stories on TikTok. talk and so it's like he wants to open the straight no one's opening the straight then it's like I can't believe we bombed such and such I'm like I don't know what's happening I'm just trying to fill up my gas tank and it's like almost five dollars so something is clearly going on all right well amazing so you

have you have no stupid questions for us what's the first one um okay so I did hear that something happened in Hungary there was an election yes I'm not sure which side is which but one side was really happy about it and one side and we're not sure and then they're changing it's changing who's happy all the time. There's an update on this story. Yes. So there was a leader in Hungary. We really liked. Charlie really liked. He's been around for a long time. His name was Victor Orban. Yes. He won his first election back in 2010, I believe, a big landslide. And he's basically everything we would want in a leader. Pro family. Pro family. Pro-Frizzan. Pro-Borders. He stopped. He rejected all the immigrants that's happening in most of Europe. And he made Libs in Europe go absolutely bonkers. They've been obsessed with taking him.

out for 16 years at this point, but he won four elections in a row. This time around, he was less popular. They've had corruption issues. I don't think that's surprising when you've been in power that long. They had some other flubs. So this time, they ran a guy against him, and he lost, knocked him out of power. And so we were upset. The left was super happy, but the guy they ran against him to finally take him down, they did run a guy who was an ex-member of his party. He was kind of on the right in a lot of ways. It's sort of like if the Democrats kept losing to Donald Trump and they finally ran maybe Mitt Romney or something as their candidate. And so just the other day, the new prime minister of Hungary came out and said, yeah, even though I'm in charge

now, we're still not passing the European Union's migration agreement. In fact, I'm going to increase enforcement on immigration and the border wall will get 10 feet higher, as it were. And So I'd still say we'd rather have Orban, but that is a good sign. The left is going to start freaking out. Maybe this guy will turn out to be a dictator too. That's what I was going to ask. Is he just better on immigration? Probably.

He's more liberal than Orban. Yeah. But he's not aOC. He's something in the middle. If he stays good on immigration, we can handle him being bad on basically on the other issue. Yeah. Immigration is the one thing that can truly transform negatively the country. countries of Europe. It's the one thing that's almost unfixable. Once you let them in, you just,

they're in. So that's a, that's not a stupid question. That's actually a good one because that's a new development in that story. When did that happen? That happened. The election was last Sunday. Okay. Yep. And J.D. Vance actually had gone over and spoke there. Then he came back. Then he went to Islamabad. Then he came back. So he's been back and forth as well. I have a stupid question for unless you have another one. Well, I was going to ask, I clearly was off on the Lebanon situation. What happened there? Okay. So we, we, started the conflict with Iran because we had that buildup

started happening even before even before you went on maternity leave we were gradually building up there we of course had the strikes last summer and then yeah about six seven weeks ago right at the start of March and the February they did strikes on Iran basically said they're getting closer to a nuclear weapon and they did a they call it a decapitation strike they took out the Ayatollah

they killed that is I wasn't that out I knew that was happening okay so they did that and then as that war broke out, Israel, who's been our ally fighting Iran, they also started, they moved troops into southern Lebanon and they started doing strikes on Lebanon. The reason they did that is there's a group called Hezbollah. And Hezbollah is a militia, kind of a private army, a non-state army of Shia Muslims. That's the same religion they have in Iran. And they've been in conflict with Israel for ages. And I think Israel basically saw this war is also our chance to take out Hezbollah is considered a proxy of the Iranian regime. They're funded by the Iranians. And so it's basically like two different groups, but they fight together. So Israel thinks, hey, we're fighting Iran. We're going to fight Hezbollah. So they've been bombing Hezbollah. President Trump actually just said that they're working on a peace deal between Israel and Lebanon right now. So there's a meeting that's taking place at a very high level.

So a complication here is when we started that attempted ceasefire with Iran, a couple weeks ago, there was a dispute because Israel continued to bomb Lebanon, and they said Lebanon's not part of the ceasefire. Iran says it should be part of the ceasefire. America was in the middle for a bit. We've now sided with Israel said it's not part of the ceasefire. Now we have peace of negotiations. But we're going to try and get peace there. Very complicated. Yeah. It's about as confusing to us. Which actually was such an educational conversation, the one you and I had about Iraq, because I was like seven years old. I learned so much about the different like war gang allies that I just would have never known about.

If it makes you feel better, all the different alliances and rivalries and hatreds in the Middle East are really complicated even to me, even to the State Department. It's a mess. Which is a reason why we shouldn't be wasting blood treasure in the Middle East anyways. Okay, you're doing. All right. Who is Sabrina Carpenter and why do I care? Yeah, why is she famous? I don't know that you care. I don't even know that I really care, but she is very famous.

She is, to be completely honest, like I really do like pop culture. She's not my personal taste. She is pretty explicit, very overtly, not even overtly. It's like a lot of innuendos, very sexual, but she is the next big thing. She's actually, she was on Disney Channel. From 1 to 10, where 10 is Taylor Swift. If 10 is Taylor Swift, I'd say she's seven or eight on her way up. Oh, okay.

Wow. So she is, yeah, she's very, very famous now, but she was on Disney Channel a long time ago. She looks old. She's probably my age, I would guess. I would, I would guess she's my age. But, yeah, she's the next big thing. She headlined Coachella. I actually, this is how out of the loop I was.

I heard about this story from Blake. He was like, do you want to talk about the Sabrina Carpenter thing? I was like, I don't even talk about it. So what is the Sabrina Carpenter thing? I think, Blake, you should explain what you heard about it. No, no, no. You have learned more than me. because you said it came up on one of your...

Yes, on the toast. I was listening to the toast. Right as Blake texted me about it. And they were talking about it. She was headlining Coachella, and all of a sudden she heard this noise. And you could hear it, I guess, on the live stream of Coachella.

So it must have been extremely loud. I'm going to butcher the word. What is it? She did a Zagrout. Is that what it is? The chants? Someone was yodeling in the crowd. She thought it was yodeling.

It wasn't yodeling. No, we have the clip. What number is it? 20... Oh, wait, no, that's what clip? Sorry, I was going to say it was 26, but that's just how old Sabrina Carpenter is. Yeah, she is my age.

She's 26. She is my age. Sot 12. Let's go ahead and play. I think I heard someone yodel. Is that what you're doing? I don't like it. That's your culture, is yodeling?

Why is this controversial? So, because I guess it is a cultural chance in Middle Eastern and African cultures. To be annoying at concerts? That is what I have heard and seen about it. So she was putting down the... this woman's culture, she thought it was yodeling. The toast actually had a good take on it because they were like, it's okay for, the backlash was so intense.

And they basically said, okay, it's okay for it to make fun of yodeling if yodeling actually was someone's culture, but because it's Middle Eastern African, she can't make fun of it. So is she on her way down now? Is Sabrina Carpenter finished? Well, I think that this is, we're getting to a Louise, but there's an Alex Cooper, Alex Earl drama that's happening that kind of took over. So Sabrina Carpenter is probably very happy that more drama is happening. Well, so some of these tweets are hilarious.

Sabrina saying that she doesn't like a cultural Arabic cheer. This is so insensitive and Islamophobic. I'm very disappointed in her. Okay. And then she apologized. My apologies. I didn't see this person with my eyes and couldn't hear clearly. My reaction was pure confusion, sarcasm and not ill-intended, could have handled it better.

Now I know what a Zagruta is. I welcome all cheers and yodels from here on out. Okay. Her next concert is going to be horrible. It's going to be terrible. I don't know if I have more dumb questions or if you have more dumb questions. Okay, but there is not a question. something that I did want to address because I feel like we know that Charlie would have loved this.

So there is a page six exclusive that came out that Taylor and Travis have set their wedding date. And it's July 4th weekend in New York City. Oh. So it is allegedly happening. Wow, very patriotic. I don't know. Is she going to be Taylor Kelsey? I don't think Charlie would be that happy because I don't think she's going to take his last name.

Taylor Kelsey or you don't mean it. Remember that line? I remember. I remember that day. He was live on there. Me and I'm a care. you're like, Taylor and Travis just got engaged. It was like the world stopped.

And he just kind of like rift like, you know, got to take the name or you don't mean it. He was genuinely happy for him. I remember he was like, this is great. He got criticized for it, but he was actually very positive. He said, listen, this is actually good for marriage, marriage culture. You know, maybe a lot, maybe she'll be happier and she won't be writing all these depressing songs. Have we seen that happen? Have there been TikToks or Instagrams of people who got in.

engaged because Taylor got engaged? Well, the issue with that is, I think, I don't know that a lot of her fan base is, I don't know how to say that. Oh, we have the clip. We have the clip. We have the clip. I think we have the clip. Yes. Loaded as 13.

This was the moment you were talking about. Saw 13. So excited. This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative. Engage in reality more and get outside of the abstract clouds. reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not in charge. And most importantly, I can't wait to go to a Taylor Kelsey concert. I can't say it without laughing. You got to change your name. If not, you don't really mean it. Congratulations, Taylor.

I think in Charlie's way, he was genuinely very happy for them. But what got him in the public is when he said submit to your husband, because the Taylars of fans do not want to hear that. Well, she should. I 100% agree. Wasn't even her own album, basically, about that? Yeah, she had a song about how she, we talked about it in an AMA about how she was, someone who didn't ask, she was really excited to, like, get married and settle down.

I also have to say, this, I think, what I was going to say without wanting to get canceled is that you asked if her fan base is actually going to start being married. The issue is that they might not have been setting themselves up to get married this entire time in the same way that Taylor Swift was because they had so bought into the feminism girl boss thing. Even though that's not, that's what we were trying to tell Charlie this whole time. That's not what Taylor Swift was bought into. And so now she's getting married and they all might be, they might be trying to look in some slim pickings for men to get married to now. Oh, I'm sorry. You think they're, they've aged out of the prime dating pool?

That's what I was saying without wanting to say it. I'm sorry. I'll say it. I'm sorry. I mean, listen, if you want to get married, like, don't wait until you're 35 and all the good ones are gone. It's a poor strategy. You're like, okay, go freeze your eggs. Go work in middle management at some shoe company and see how that works out for you.

Okay, whatever. And to the person that emailed in and said that me and Blake should get married. I am already married. Which is good. But we still are pro-marriage for Blake. 100%. Send in your resumes. That's proof that we're seeing your emails.

So please write in and give them to us. We monitor them the whole show. Freedom at Charliecirk.com. If you are interested in Blake, we are taking applications right now. We should do an AMA that's like speed dating theme. Oh, dear. Oh, dear. Only potential suitors for Blake.

Oh, my gosh. Like love is blind. Remember when we talked about love is blind on thought crime, but you can only hear their voice and you can't ask any questions about what they look like. He's been taking a strong cell for a while now. He is ready. He is in prime physical condition and he's ready. He's ready and able.

And he is a good man. That's, if something's going to get me to come back to work after maternity leave, it is finding the perfect. I did, I did date someone who contacted the show for, for, it went fine. That could be you. It didn't work out, but it was fun. That could be you. You're a gentleman. You're a gentleman.

Okay, I have one last stupid question for you. There's like these Alex people, the Alex Cooper, who's the call her daddy. She's the 31 year old host of the Caller Daddy podcast. And Alex Earl, who I've never heard about, 25 year old internet star. That is shocking that you've never heard about her. So they're beefing. Yes. And you said that this got some of the heat off Sabrina Carpenter.

Yes. What is the beef about? Like Monday morning. Coachella was Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Monday morning. So Alex Cooper is call her daddy. She is the opposite of everything that we have wanted to discuss in the show. Very pro-abortion, very radical.

Very crass. Yeah, she is something. But she signed Alex Earl, who is like the biggest influencer in the world right now. She is the cream of the crop. The girl in the red dress, if you're looking on the screen. And everyone loves her. She's 25, I think you said. She signed Alex Earle to her network at Call Her Daddy.

Then they had a major falling out. Alex Cooper posted a video on Monday saying, Alex make a video saying exactly what happened between us and we'll see what the public decides who side they're on. Because everyone that speculated that it's all financial, Alex's dad was her manager and, like, canceled, contract between the two of them. But what is interesting in how this does circle back is Alex Earle's dad is married to a woman

named Ashley Dupree, who was a part of a prostitution scandal in, I think, 2008 with the New York mayor. Eric Spritzer? Does anyone remember what I'm talking about? There was an Elliott Spitzer. Yes. Yes. Him.

He... Oh, he had a prostitution. Yeah. I think it was like a $10,000 an hour madam that he got in trouble with. Yes. Yes, Alex Earl's stepmom now. Oh, wow. Well, and everybody loves this?

Is she like Alex Cooper where she's crass and? She's less crass, but she is very party girl drinking a lot, going out with her friends. Then she went on dancing with the stars, and she's kind of settling into more of a normal life. She was dating a football player, and now I think she's single. Taylor Kelsey's influence spreads. Yes, not Alex Cooper. No dumb questions. Tell us what you think of this.

These guys seem to love it, so we're going to probably. do it again. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.