The Charlie Kirk Show - The ‘Both Sides’ Lie and Banning Sharia Law

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

Andrew Kolvet and Jack Posobiec continue to slam the lie that political violence is a "both sides" issue, and Sen. Coach Tommy Tuberville joins to preview his TPUSA campus stop coming up at Auburn on Nov. 5 before getting into Coach’s new legislation aimed at banning Sharia Law in the United States. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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friends, and viewers. All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. This is Andrew Colvitt executive producer of this fine show. And I'm joined in studio here in D.C. No, we did not change the set. We are just on location in Washington, D.C. And I'm joined by Jack Pesobo.

What's up, ma'am? You know, we're holding it down here in the Imperial Capitol, while Blake is on assignment in Italy. I'm just going to out him right like that. I was going to say, you don't usually tell people specifically where they are. Well, in this instance, it's just too cool, I have to say it.

It is pretty cool. He has a family member that's taken the vows to become a nun. Female family member. Which is super based. It's actually Blake, isn't it? Blake's joining a nunnery. Blake's joining a nunnery. There's too many, too many mine.

Finally found a place for Blake. Too many trip wires in that minefield. You just laid. for me. So anyways, we are honored to be with you guys. I just have to say, we've gotten such a tremendous outpouring of just feedback from our show yesterday that we did from the White House. Truly, truly, truly grateful for all the nice notes and the kind things you guys have said. We had a tremendous show. We had James Blair, who's one of the most powerful people actually in the administration. People don't realize that, but he's had, like, political and policy,

deputy chief of staff at the White House that we had of course jd vance we announced that jd if you guys want to throw this uh graphic up jd is going to be speaking on campus with erika kirk on october 29th at old miss they're in oxford mississippi going to be an amazing amazing event uh and he's said he's just going to take questions has a sitting vice president or president ever done something like this before no uh as far as i'm as far as i'm aware can't I mean, anything, but the, the, the courage that it takes as, you know, essentially the second most powerful man in the world to sit in front of students at a college, there's going to be like 10,000 people there, taking questions for probably like an hour, let's just say. The man who's a heartbeat away from the chair. But he's willing to just do that and take questions. They're going to be unscripted. It's going to be, I mean, who does that, right? Even the town halls that they do, you know, on CNN, we can get into AOC and Bernie did theirs last night.

But that was all planned. It was all planned. And they know. which questions are coming. This is going to be completely raw and he's willing to take hard questions from both the left and the right. To take that much time out of his schedule and with the logistics, with the security, with the pre-planning that has to go in. I mean, it's just a testament to how much Charlie meant to JD and how big of an impact that Charlie's legacy had not on only JD as a person, but really on JD's politics. And JD really has told the story that, that Charlie was the one that really backed him, encouraged him when he was first running for Senate,

and then eventually where he is now in the vice president. Yeah, J.D. would tell you this as well. He would not be where he is today as the sitting vice president of the United States because he probably wouldn't have been senator, and then he probably wouldn't have had so much backing and support from a lot of people that Charlie helped bring about when he was being considered for vice president.

Charlie really spearheaded that. And then, of course, all the efforts, the turning point action, the Charlie, that you did, Jack, to get J.D. in office, to get President Trump in office. So I actually, we've both been doing the media rounds, Jack, because it's, we're in D.C., we're in the imperial capital. Might as well make use of it. I actually went on the, with Dana Perino and Bill Hemmer this morning to talk about the interview that I had with J.D. Vance yesterday and to just thank him for what a tremendous human being he is and for willing to emulate Charlie's, you know, his style, his mission.

on campus to actually take the questions. Play cut 243. I just want to give a huge shout out and hat tip to the vice president. You know, people, I don't know how people imagine this working, but he and Usha have been so just generous and they have been the ones offering to help. They have been the one saying, hey, we want to make sure that Charlie's legacy lives on. How can we help? What can we do? And I just love that the vice president wants to honor Charlie by emulating Charlie at these events. You know, yes, he'll give a few minutes of remarks, but he wants to interact with the students. And people need to understand that part of what made Charlie so amazing is that, yeah, he spoke, but he listened. And this is going to give the vice president

opportunity to do just that. So your reaction, Jay? No, it's, it's huge. I mean, to have the vice president, sitting vice president in United States, a guy who has been spearheading. And look, I was in the room the other day when Marco Rubio and J.D. Vance came in, coming, getting off of the call with like the Hamas negotiations and Qatar. And we know that J.D. Vance has been involved in working with Whitkoff and Ukraine-Russia war. And so we're in the middle of a government. There's so many things that are going on in D.C. that he has on his portfolio. And he's going to take all of this time to honor Charlie. And by the way, to continue the tour that the left tried to stop. Yeah, absolutely. What that's exactly right.

And J.D. said in that interview with me, he said, listen, we're going to each take a piece of this. And nobody can replace Charlie. There's nobody who's going to hold a candle to Charlie. As the Bible said, we are unfit to tie the sandals of Charlie. But here we are, and we're attempting to do our best. We miss him, but we're going to hold the torch as best we can. And J.D. is going to be a big part of that. And just so grateful to him. So also, Jack, I played a clip of mine.

I'm going to play a clip of yours. that is about this theme of this rise of left wing violence i did a town hall with news nation last night you did i did it going viral right now i don't know if i'm going mr viral oh you're definitely you're definitely going on the left yeah we'll say well here's here but you actually kind of commented on something similar uh again another fox news hit but by the way give it up for real america's voice in salem radio network that carries this show live every day and for real America's voice that did such great work to set up the shot, the shoot yesterday, the interviews, they did all of that, Parker at the White House. At the White House. We're so grateful. And the day before

at the Treasury Department. So, thank you. Nobody could do it like the American's voice. Thank you. Thank you to our Arab family. So here's, here's Jack Posobic yesterday evening, last evening, at 262. Mark Bray was denounced by the president of Dartmouth University because of his embrace of violence all the way back in 2017. He said, if you label someone a white supremacist, if you label someone a fascist, then he endorses violence against them. I would just say this to Rutgers. I spoke with Turning Point headquarters earlier tonight. We stand by our chapter. We will defend our chapter. And if the university wants to make an issue of it, they can find out how good our lawyers are. All right. So this is a really big story that's

bubbling up and it's kind of hitting a crescendo right now because I'm being asked about it. You're being asked about it. Mark Bray at Rutgers University. Tell us about Mark Bray. So Mark Bray, Mark Bray is Dr. Antifa. This is a guy who, by the way, was run out of Dartmouth years ago back in 2017 because of his support for violence. And he claims that Antifa violence is ethically and morally justified when it is done against people who he decides are white supremacists and fascists. And he wrote a whole book on this in 2017. He wrote opeds about this. He came out.

The president of Dartmouth denounced him. Then, of course, Rutgers went and gave him this. By the way, it's a part-time teaching position. I just want to be very clear about that. So he came up and has been spreading this hate and domestic terrorism all throughout his tenure at Rutgers. Well, in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, the turning point chapter on campus was saying, look, this guy has been here for all this time. He's spreading violence. Our leader was just taken out.

We don't feel safe with him on campus. He's creating a harassing and violent, toxic environment for us. and we would like to see something done about him. They launch a petition. Then he flies to Spain on the taxpayer dime. I got to chime in on this part. The flying to Spain part. So this is a guy who advocates for preemptive violence to take down fascist, to kill fascist.

What is a fascist? The fascist to him is a conservative. So he advocates for a violent world, for us to exist amidst violence, political violence. The second the temperature gets turned up on him just a little, not that we condone any form of violence, but this guy gets a little bit of heat on him and he flies straight to Spain. Absolute coward. He cannot exist in the world for which he advocates for. And then, you know, and these kids are meanwhile getting doxed on campus. The university is launching an investigation on the kids, not him, not him, not on the violence

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So, yes, I went to this town hall last night. Fetterman is actually the one that's going most viral, John Fetterman, because he said, I'm not going to call conservatives fascists, right? So Fetterman is striking this civil tone. It was supposed to be this very civil debate. Chris Cuomo had reached out, asked me to be. be a part of it. I said, sure, I'm going to be in town. Let's do it. I'm happy to do a civil debate, a conversation. So I go there. I'm backstage. And you've got, you know, Jim Jordan, you got Rokana, Stephen A. Smith, Bill O'Reilly, Chris Cuomo. They're all having these very nice conversation. At Kennedy Center last night. They're all having these very nice conversations.

It's all very civil. It's very chill. And then of a sudden, my segment comes up and they put me with this Midas Touch kid, Adam Mochler. Midas Toucher. He puts the mock and mockler. And we talked backstage. He was very nice. And, you know, I was like, okay, we'll talk about new media. We'll talk about the importance of that. And then what's a turning point doing? I thought it was going to be just like this. This kid comes in and he's like, you need to disavow these young Republicans from New York.

I mean, it came at me real, real hot, real hot. I had no idea that I was walking into that situation. Wait, can I just say, by the way, on the Federman piece? So Federman comes out, he says, I'm not going to call conservatives fascists. That was the big thing out last night. What did we see in Axios this morning? the Democrats are now moving to oust Federman. They're going to primary in the Pennsylvania.

Oh, my goodness. So you are no longer allowed to live civilly with your political opponents. You have to claim. And by the way, he is a 93% Democrat voting record. So like, he votes with the Democrats all the time on every single issue. It's not good enough. But it's not good enough because he won't call Republicans. And this shows you, I'm sorry, but like, we're on Charlie's show, right?

this shows you the mindset and the ecosystem that leads to a heinous act like this because they demand this theological fealty to you must say the words you must say the words and if you don't say that then they're going to throw you out of office well let's since we're on fetterman let's play that clip 270 i knew i know and i love people that voted for president trump but they are not fascists they're not Nazis they're not trying to destroy her the constitution those things we really got to turn the temperature down and for that he's getting basically primaried by his own party right and politically speaking so i mean obviously we're both from pennsylvania so trump wins pennsylvania but then fetterman also won

pennsylvania so he's in this same boat with like whitmer josh capiro a number of people who are demic bill evers in misconsin who are represented states as democrats in places where trump won you see this also with john ossoff in georgia of course in arizona as well which charlie of course is very close to him yep and this is a perfect example of this clip I'm about to play from Jimmy Kimmel of the current state of the Democrat Party. This guy is still lying. He almost lost his job. As a matter of fact, he probably will. Let's be honest, because his ratings are falling off a cliff. Because he's awful. And he's not funny. Because he's awful. He's not funny. His ratings are falling off a cliff.

His show will die the way it's supposed to die, which is because it's too expensive and it's unsuccessful. So that's fine. But meanwhile, despite getting a pretty stern slap on the wrist, We'll call it a slap on the wrist. That's about what it was. He's still out there saying Antifa is not real and that Trump supporters are domestic terrorists. And if you want to know why conservatives are getting so upset about the rise of left-wing violence,

it's because of this rhetoric that is, it put this sheer sheen of respectability because it shows up on the nightly news or it shows up on late-night talk shows. 275. Antifa is just short for anti-fascist. It's not a club you can join. There are no membership dues,

but they have matching. signs. Okay, well, I guess we better round up these domestic terrorists, too. They look pretty matching to me. Listen, I'm going to tell you this. Spread it around. There's no chaos in Portland. None. There is no chaos in Chicago. There was no chaos in Los Angeles. They're pretending there's chaos as a pretense for a military takeover. I find this highly offensive on so many levels. And to the point that maybe I might just throw to you, Jack, but I will say this, there is chaos in Portland and Chicago. Go try living in the south side. Go try working at a federal ice facility. Go try being a journalist and covering the events without getting a black eye or getting a liquid cement milkshick thrown at your head. So, yeah, I don't, by the way, and the whole point of Antifa, Jack, and you know this better than anybody, is that it is intentionally decentralized. It is intentional. this amorphous, flexible, loose network of left-wing militants.

Right. And they certainly do have tactical flow. We know there's financiers. We know there's the rest of it. But what Jimmy Kimmel is doing, I remember, this is playing towards that slim base that he still has left. And he has to keep repeating, like, recursive thoughts over and over again. We are not violent. They are violent. We are not violent. And I hate to say it. But as the left-wing violence continues throughout this country, we just had bloody September, who knows what will be next. We've got three names, Tyler Robinson, Ryan Ralph, Ryan Ralph, and Luigi Maggioni. Hey, everybody, this is Andrew Colvette, executive producer of the Charlie Kirk Show.

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By the way, I'm also joined by Jack Pesobic. Coach, this is your first time joining the show since everything happened. So I want to start there. There's a lot we need to get to, but let's start there. Charlie loved you, coach. He believed in you. He knew you were one of the fighters in Washington. Now you're working on a gubernatorial campaign in the great state of Alabama.

But maybe just start there. reflect on what this month is meant to you and kind of where you're at. Yeah, I met Charlie six, seven years ago. He helped me in my campaign for the Senate seat. And we got to be good friends. I saw him at the White House a couple of times during the campaign. And just over the last year since President Trump got elected, he and I were put on the Air Force, basically the Academy Board,

and to try to work with Air Force Academy to try to help our young leaders of the future. and Charlie and I had several conversations, and we were really outspoken on a lot of things that need to be changed. And again, Charlie was, he was one of the kind, and you always enjoy talking to him because you had always learned something. I learned something a long time ago. You speak a third of the time, you listen two thirds of the time, and I could have listened all day to Charlie, but it's a shame of what's happened. seemed like this yesterday, but his memory will go on and his teachings because he did so much for young kids. I spent my life on college campuses and Lord how mercy, how much we needed somebody like Charlie. And now Erica and you guys and everybody on board going in that direction, we have to

continue that ministry on college campuses. That's where it starts. That's where we're going to change our country and Charlie was on the right track. Well, and coach, I just have to say thank you on behalf of everybody at Turning Point USA for joining us on November 5th, an upcoming event. Campus stops going to be huge with alongside Eric Trump, Lara Trump, and Benny Johnson on November 5th. I think we've got that graphic guys, if you can throw it up. You are going to be helping us kick that event off in November 5th at Auburn University, a place you know just a little bit about. Coach, maybe tell us why you felt like you needed to be a part of this. Well, first of all, we'd working on this with Charlie before he lost his life.

And he wanted to come to Auburn. We were working out the details. And obviously now things have changed, but it hadn't changed in the fact that we're still going to bring his thoughts in memory to Auburn. My understanding is it's going to be a hard ticket to get. We've got a lot of great Americans on that campus that really love Charlie and want to continue on. And again, you hate to say this, but things have really even multiplied even after what happened to Charlie. But again, his memory is coming to Auburn. Again, we've got a great group of Benny and Lauren Eric.

I look forward to seeing them. I'll actually leave D.C. come back, fly back, just. for that. I live only three or four blocks from the campus, so I'm looking forward to Turning Point coming to Auburn and sharing a lot of thoughts about the future of Turning Point. And of course, Eric and Laura come in there. They'll bring a lot of other insight, Benny also, but I'm just looking forward to be around college kids again and having a chance and opportunity to kick something off. I think it's going to be pretty special in the Auburn area and the Auburn Arena around, you know, 10,000 people or so that we'll

grab a hold and keep this thing going. Well, God bless you for it. And, you know, Erica Kirk has been at stalwart. She has been very firm. We are going to 10x turning point. We are going to grow the movement that Charlie started and that his death has ushered in this ground swell of enthusiasm and patriotism. We're committed to it. It's a sacred duty. And it's folks like you throwing in and pitching in and making sure that your influence is heard, that kids get to hear from you directly, that makes me very, very confident that we are going to take the baton from Charlie and run with it as best we can, but God's going to bless it. I truly believe it. And so thank you for making the time, Senator, it's a huge blessing to us. Now, something else

you and Charlie shared, and I've mentioned this on the show before, is that towards the end of his life. Charlie, probably more than any other issue, raised the alarm bells about the rise of Islam in the West. Obviously, he had just visited London and the UK, saw it up close and personal, realized half the TV channels were in a different language, mostly Middle Eastern languages, I think that's safe to say. And it really disturbed him. And then we saw these different communities with the United States, trying to put together Muslim-centric cultures and sort of, you know, having mosques and having an HOA that was basically paying towards a mosque in Epic City, I think, is what they called it in Texas. But there's other examples, Dearborn, Michigan, there's a rising tide of

Islam in the West. And Coach, you are introducing legislation to ban Sharia law in the United States. Tell us about it. Well, first of all, this is a great country, greatest country ever on the face the earth. We have freedoms. We have a constitution. And you have the right to come here and be a part of this country. The thing that you don't have the right to do is to attack our constitution, other religions, speak out against America, speak out against Americans, death to America. That's wrong. Sharia law is not going to fit here. It got no chance. Charlie and I had talked about this recently before his death. And he was starting on that campaign.

I'm going to continue that campaign in his name because we have a great country, but we can't, if you don't assimilate with America and love our flag and love our people and put your foot forward to help make this country greater instead of downgrade it, you have no place here. So we need to ban Sharia law and we need to make sure that anything that's done towards American people, if spoken out against, I don't care what it is, if you speak out against this country, and right now it's mostly comes from radical Islamist, then you don't, you don't deserve to be here. So it's time to make a stand. Charlie started it. We're going to

continue on with it, and we're going to stand up for what we believe in, and that's the greatest country on the face of the earth. Well said, sir. Well said. Jack. Well, coach, I want to say thank you so much for coming on. And I know Charlie shared so many of the values that you fight for so many of the values that it seems that as a country, we seem to have forgotten about many times. And unfortunately, one of those values is the idea of being civil. And Andrew and I have been sitting here talking today and really for the past month about the violence that we've seen come from these elements on the far left. And coach, what is it that that drives them to be so directly violent and you have your your colleague john fetterman he came out last night and he's

on this panel with andrew and says well i don't think we should call republicans fascists and we wake up this morning and democrats are trying to primary him out of office in pennsylvania yeah uh john's one the few that speaks out uh for america on the on the democratic side right now they are just moving in the direction of socialism and and fascism and communism you name it they're trying to do it because they won't power they don't want anything better for a country They want people to join their cause to tear our country down to make something different than what it is, what it was and how it was built. We've made it 250, almost, 250 years. We'll celebrate that next year.

And constitutional republics and any kind of democracy never really last past that point. And so we have other people that won't change us to what they are. Europe has gone. They've lost it. the immigration system in Europe has, and most, I'd say 90% of the countries has overtaken them. I don't know whether they can regain it, but they want the big apple, okay? They want the United States of America. And we better wake up and smell the roses, the thing that Charlie was speaking about

and let people know that this is not a socialist country. This is not a country that's taken over by a certain religion. We have a set of rules. We have a game plan. is called the American Constitution, and we're not going to change that. And we'll fight for it. We have before, and if we have to fight for it here, we'll fight for it here. But we are going to let our kids and grandkids have what we've all had to grow up in the future of the greatest country ever.

Well said, sir. I've commented on this that I did not feel, I didn't even really internalize the fact that there was a government shutdown going on. This is something that you are actively involved in. being a part of the Senate, I got to D.C. and it's like, oh, I can feel the shutdown here. This is like the one place where you can feel it. I understand that eventually some of these paychecks for our servicemen might get held out, but luckily we found like a stopgap for that in the short term. Tell us about the shutdown. Are you optimistic it's going to end soon or the Democrats just going to, you know, not be moved, not be budged in this fight for health care

for, I don't know, illegals? Yeah, well, here's what you can understand. It's the craziest thing I've ever been around, and I've been around a lot of crazy stuff in the last five years in the Biden administration, and now, thank goodness, President Trump got elected. But this is the budget that we've had for the last four years, and every Democrat has voted for it. Now all of a sudden, President Trump is not in office. He's trying to make changes. He's trying to get his head above water in terms of what the Biden administration did to our country executive branch. So he's trying. He's doing everything he possibly can.

the problem is the Democrats don't like it. And so now they want to change the narrative. Okay, we want a trillion and a half more dollars in this budget. Wait a minute. We're spending two trillion more than American taxpayers send already. We're $2 million, $2 trillion over the budget. And so we really need to cut it, not be out. They want to add a $3.5.

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It was supposed to make it more affordable, more doctors, more nurses, more hospitals. It's done just the opposite. It has destroyed our health care system. So they've got a subsidy in there that was put in for COVID, which was fine. We might have needed it, but we don't need it anymore. more. It's made things more difficult for the American people. And so premiums are going to go up anyway because of inflation. But they're blaming the premiums that are going up on health care, on our insurance policies, on Republicans voting against this. That's not the case. So here's what's

going to happen. I don't know whether we'll open it up again, but we're going to have to have the same conversation in December. And so four or five weeks from now and or at the end of November. And so the Democrats have lost their mind. If they don't want to pass it, that's fine. President Trump is going through the bloated government in Washington, D.C. He is furlowing and firing people that don't have anything to do. Now they got a job making 175,000. Sometimes, most of time, they work for home. He is getting a correction that we have desperately needed in Washington, D.C. So, Coach, what is your message? I mean, because we understand that there's this fight over the $1.3 trillion in health care for working men and women, as they like to say.

But it's actually way more sinister than that because a lot of these are illegals. But what's your message? Because we know there's actually just a political calculus at play here. Chuck Schumer's worried about his left flank. He took a lot of incoming from his own party. When he went with the CR last time, he's worried about AOC primaring him. She was on a town hall with Bernie Sanders last night on CNN with Caitlin Collins. We know that there's just pure partisan politics at play here with Democrats, and they don't want to budge.

What's your message to them? Well, they don't care about the American people. They're worried more about politics, power. Schumer, as you said, he voted for the CR. He really didn't want to back in the spring, President Trump's first CR. He voted for it, and he took a shalacking from the AOCs, the far left progressives of the Democratic Party. And so he knows this time if he votes for it, he's dead meat.

He will not be back in the Senate after next year. He'll run against him and beat him. So that's his problem. Yep. No, I agree with you, Coach. And he's got a heck of a, a heck of a party to try and wrangle in. I mean, we sometimes joke that the conservative movement is a bunch of raucous, independent-minded, hard to control people.

but I actually think that the divide between sort of these moderate old school Democrats and the new left might be even more dramatic. I mean, you know, to put a finer point on what we talked about earlier, Jack, it's the left wing of the Democrat Party that it's Democrat Socialists of America communists that is actually advocating for political violence. Coach, we are so honored to have you. Again, I know what a how much faith Charlie put in you, how much belief he had, and we wish you all the best. and your gubernatorial run in the great state of Alabama, and we will be seeing you in Auburn in just a few weeks. Thank you. Look forward to seeing you guys. Talk to you soon. Absolutely. Thank you, Coach. Talk to you soon. I want to play a couple of clips of Charlie talking about Islam because he really was hammering this day in a day out. Based. Based. Let's go ahead

and play 253, how Islam is a conquering religion, 253. for anyone that has eyes to see and ears to hear and actually reads the khadith and reads parts of the koran you know that conquest is an Islamic value to submit is literally what islam means to make those submit it's very hard to get serious Muslims to admit to this that they actually do want conquest that they do want to take over. Jack, I mean, ultimately that is what we're seeing kind of play out in places like London and now, New York. And we have the huge debate

that's going to be taking place tonight between Andrew Cuomo, Sliwa, and Mamdani. And so tonight, in lieu of thought crime, or we're still doing the thought crime show, but it's actually going to be, as Charlie would have wanted, by the way, a debate watch and then a debate reaction show. So I want everyone to tune in this evening. I think the debate starts 7 p.m. Eastern.

So you don't need to worry about going to some other channel. We will be streaming the program tonight on Charlie Kirk on the on the on the platforms and all the platforms and then we'll be coming on afterwards. Andrew, actually, you're going to be on flight. I got to catch the flight. But I'll do the pre-show and I'll watch part of the debate. And then you guys are going to take it from there. Yeah, and we'll get, we'll get, Blake's on assignment.

So we'll get, we'll get Tyler, myself, Cliff, Maloney. And I want to get Mikey. Yeah. Actually, we had him. We had him last week on thought crime and he's great. Mikey's going to be on the show tomorrow for our AMA. So please join members.com. Become a member and help us in this time, but also get to take part in our AMAs. That's the only way to talk to Mikey. That's the only way to call in is that a member. Yeah, exactly. Well, there you go. So, and you get to talk to Mikey, which is, you know, it wouldn't want to talk to Mikey. It's a big deal. I mean, it's a big deal. So, yeah, listen, you know, you know, look at this you see uh go go ahead and throw up image 278 this is from july 7th the conservative

movement needs to focus more time energy and focus on how is rapidly taking over the west that's a charlie tweet 278 we could go to another one 279 which year is that that's this year this year this year and september 3rd this is seven days uh before you hear a lot of pundance fearmonger about the rise of christian nationalism right in front of the rise islam is taking over public places and political power. Islam is a fundamentally political ideology that aims to conquer us militarily or demographically. This is absolutely right. 277, Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America. So it's a really tragic one. Can I just say that? Yeah, that was September 9th. Yeah, I mean. Here's August 7th. Mass import, Islam,

destroy America. It's that simple. Charlie was raising the alarm bell. He was being as loud as he could about this issue and i will not forget it you know what it was is because he went to oxford and cambridge because he was over there in london and he saw it with his own eyes that was one not the last foreign trip but one of the last big trips that he did outside of the country and he came back and the very first thing he did was identify what the problem was and he just boiled it down to it's down to its bones down to its very dnas only charlie could do and said guys they're ahead of us but we're on the same path. We're on the very same path of Islam. And then he was over there, seeing what was happening. Obviously, he saw how bad the infiltration on campus was, but he saw it around the cities

as well. And we saw, of course, huge rally for Tommy Robinson, which had already been pre-scheduled the same week that Charlie was killed. And that that was very much a repudiation of the mass migration of Islam and third-worlders into London. And then because Charlie was murdered three days prior i think i have the dates right there it just became this connection of charlie and christianity and western civilization sort of all mixed together and charlie's mantra at the end was save the west save the west save the west and i think he he had wanted to travel internationally in twenty twenty three twenty four but he said america first we're going to stay domestic we're going to stay focused here at home we win the election and he finally allowed himself to schedule a few

trips and so of course he went to london but then he went to uh korea the south korea and japan as well i'm so glad he got to do that i'm so grateful because you really liked it yeah he actually liked it he loved how clean it was and he was reminded that we don't have to live this way we do not have to live with crime and filth i mean it's optional and yeah it's all about political will we learned this with the border and so many other things for more on many of these stories and news you can trust go to charlie kirk dot com