The Charlie Kirk Show - The Idaho Yogurt Heroes Honoring Charlie

Episode Date: February 26, 2026

Chase and Sarah Gibson of Grooveberries frozen yogurt shop in Idaho join the show to talk about how they have used their business to celebrate and honor Charlie in the wake of his death, despite a wave of threats and harassment for doing so. They share why they stood firm and talk about using their business to support their local Club America chapters. Then Sean Davis breaks down the path to winning the midterms and why he's so annoyed with Senate Republican leadership over the SAVE Act.   Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Thank you for doing that, Blake. I'm very excited about this next segment, and it's with two great Americans. Their names are Chase and Sarah Gibson. They are owners of Grooveberry's Froyo shop in Idaho, and they have quite the story to tell. They have attempted in their way to honor Charlie and it has not been a straight line of a story,

but they are great patriots and we wanted to honor them. When I found out about the story, I tweeted about it. I tried to let people know so they could support this business. But I want to hear about it from them themselves. Chase and Sarah, welcome to the show. It's an honor to have you. Thank you.

Thank you so much for having us. It's an honor to be on. Yeah, thank you guys. It's such an honor. It's so cool. So we appreciate it so much. Wow, God bless you. Thank you guys.

And so why don't you tell us the story? What happened? Because you attempted to honor Charlie and you've been met with good and bad. So tell us the story. Yeah, so a couple days after his assassination, you know, my husband, Chase and I, we prayed, what can we do to carry on Charlie's legacy?

And, you know, the idea popped. You know, here's the cups right here. We printed a memoriam sticker with his birth and death year. and his name. I printed 200 of them because I just thought, okay, it'll be a day of thing. Just a single remembrance for him, you know, and it took off way more than what we were thinking, all into God. Charlie was just such an amazing guy. He was so, so good at pulling biblical scripture and for biblical truth within his dialogue and debates. And there's something I really, really, truly looked up to him for. So it was just such a simple thing for us to do to show.

show our support for him and his family and his remembrance. Absolutely. So how many did you end up printing? Or are you still printing that? Yeah, we're still printing them. There's been, how many, I mean, you... I would bet we're over 60,000, 80,000 cups with stickers on them. Oh.

Just, yeah. The first... To support. I didn't have enough room in my shop to thaw all the yogurt, to be honest. I had to make multiple trips actually out to our suppliers just to make sure I had enough to keep going, which thank goodness for our power house tailor machines back here. They just didn't stop.

It was amazing. I just love having you guys on the show because it sort of feels, Blake, like our version of what President Trump was trying to do last night and the Union. It did very well, by the way. But telling real stories of real Americans out there, you know you did get some pushback though so tell us about that so death threats menacing messages tell us

exactly yeah so that first day that we put him out we actually had an in-person you know somebody kind of shoved me up against my countertop we had to get the police involved and then from there it's been yeah seriously shoved you against a countertop yes not not physically with her hands but backed me up, I should say, into my countertop, wouldn't leave our store, even though she said we were the ones that were making her feel uncomfortable. It was a whole thing. Yeah, she was too uncomfortable. We've asked her, you know, it's, you can leave, like, it's okay. It's like, I'm too uncomfortable to go up out of my seat. And we're like, well, we'll have the police come get you,

no problem. You know, so there was that. And then, yeah, just from there, lots of hate comments. have received death threats via mail, handwritten mail, via our social media. Yeah. That was one that was interesting to me. So I was just like going to the mailbox and, you know, didn't really assume much, get there. Most of it's good mail. You know, I would say 90% of our information we're getting from people is positive.

10% is pretty brutal. But that comes from me who's not really on social media and I've never experienced it. So it's, it was telltelling. situation to be in, I think, to see different opinions being pushed against us in a sense. So, but that one was a handwritten note that was, I was colorblind, I'm colorblind, I thought it was red. So it was a little more crazy to me than my wife said it was. Yeah, basically just in general, the whole experience has been lots of great and then mixed in with just, I would say, the support has been way overshadowed. Yeah, absolutely.

hate though. Yeah. Good. Blake, I want to get you in here. No, it all sounds remarkable, I guess. Yeah, we're glad that the support overshadows the hate for sure, but right, handwritten letters, do you get the sense, is this cranks in the community,

or was there enough attention you think online? Do you think you're getting it from all over the country at least? I guess I'd feel better if it was a lunatic in Massachusetts sending this to you. Right. Well, we just recently have one like that too. Yeah, I mean, we're still getting messages from all over the country. Initially, Fox News had picked up on us, and so it kind of, we were getting messages from actually all over the world.

Yeah, everywhere. And, I mean, just to highlight how much support we were getting to, I mean, there was people calling in with their credit card numbers asking how can they help pay it forward, or, you know, we had coined the blueberry budget. I'm sure you remember Gigi's blueberry budget. And we donated, yeah, from the day we started up until Charlie's birthday, we donated 25% of our Charlie Kirk-related sales directly to Erica Kirk for the blueberry budget. And then now going forward, we've been donating 5% to our local turning point chapters and Club America chapters. And we just had the turn point chapter for Northern Idaho College here yesterday using our space just to watch the state of the unit address. It's very cool to be able to be supportive of these groups. And I think Club America is a pretty big one that we're really getting super stoked to help out with.

Yeah. Well, I just want to highlight for the folks at home, you know, you guys did this because you are strong Christians that believe that you are called to spread the gospel in whatever realm that you're in. You have a Grooveberry's Froyo shop in Cordelaine, Idaho. So you're spreading the gospel there. And you're standing up. You have worship nights at your shop. You're supporting Club America, turning point. Yeah.

We got about a minute remaining, guys. I want to just first say, please support them. If you're in that area of the woods, neck of the woods, please go by Groove Berries for your shop. If you're driving through, maybe you live in Seattle and you're driving to go ski in Montana or something, drive through, stop by Groove Berries. Please support them. These are great patriots, salty earth people. Just tell us, you know, in the last minute that we have. here, you know, what does it mean for you and what Charlie's legacy was? President Trump highlighted

his, that there's a revival going on with young people after Charlie's assassination. Tell us about the faith impact and why that's important to you. One minute. Honestly, it is the number one most important. And that's exactly what Charlie, that's exactly what Charlie stood for, was God first, his devotion and love for Jesus Christ. And he didn't care the persecution that is expected to come with it. And, you know, we are all expected to stand up in his place now. He was our voice and now we're his. Yep. And Charlie just did such a great job at making a point that his relationship with Jesus comes first. And I have started to really try and make my point in life and every day to read my Bible. And I encourage every single person

to get in there. There's nothing but positivity and goodness that comes from learning the word of God. So yeah. Well, I mean, God bless you guys. You guys are such rock stars. We just love you guys. We have your back. Thank you for having our back. Thank you for having our back. and yeah just god bless you and god bless groove berries keep up the the great work guys thank you thanks thanks for coming on those were amazing amazing people those people rocked just i want them at one of our events those people ruled yeah we got to reach out to them and invite them to something because that is what makes america a great place christians that are cool that have courage that are down to do the right thing

and I just pray that they are richly, richly blessed. I pray that they end up becoming like the biggest Froyo franchise in the country so help do that. I mean honestly I'm going to go buy some gift cards from them online and I'll probably never be able to use them maybe I will but I don't care

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Well, so obviously there are a lot of proposals around the country to honor Charlie in various ways because of his accomplishments and, of course, his martyrdom. We have one here in Arizona where we're hoping to name the 202 loop that goes right around this area after him. But one of the proposals was in Texas. It's Bastrop County. This is just outside of Austin. And they had a proposal to designate FM-969, which is about a 29-mile stretch of highway going from the town of Bastrop to the Austin area. And they're going to call it the Charlie Kirk Corridor.

And this is a Republican county. I know Austin is liberal, but this is a conservative-leaning county. But apparently dozens of people showed up to a county commission meeting on Monday and were against the proposal. And as a result, they folded immediately. A few dozen people are mad. Drop the proposal. They put the vote on hold and we don't know if it will ever happen. And I don't think Charlie would be very happy at that level of sponsor.

I must say. Yeah, this is an amazing, I would say, microcosm of the problem that Charlie had with the GOP, the traditional GOP, the pre-Trump GOP, they were spineless. They had no guts. This guy basically put it forward. Sure, I will thank him for putting it forward. But then he gets a little bit of pushback, a modicum of pushback, and he folds like a cheap suit. That is unacceptable to me. I would have preferred had he never even put the motion up in the first place, then to be cowed by a couple dozen, you know, activists that don't want their highway named after Charlie Kirk.

It's an absolute insult to the people of Texas, the great state of Texas. To your point, Blake, everything outside of Austin is Ruby Red. I mean, Dripping Springs is Ruby Red. This Bastrop County is Ruby Red. Lake Travis area is Ruby Red. There are great patriots all around Austin, and it is an amazing community of people that I know for a fact support, Charles. Charlie Kirk. Chip Roy, who is just on yesterday, represents just south of Austin. This is an absolute

insult to Charlie's memory. And to your point, like, they're doing this all over the country, and these roads are going to be named in Charlie's honor. He deserves that and so much more. But the fact that the left is so insane right now that they can't celebrate Charlie who died debating by inviting open debate on college campuses, who did he did nothing wrong. He did did everything right and they've got a problem with it is obscene. And this man should have held the line and he should have fought back and he should have pushed back and said, thank you for your comments. I'm ignoring them. We're moving forward with it anyways. Instead, he's saying, oh, I'm going to take this motion off. I'm not going to bring it back up. We're going to take a breather and I'm going to

talk with my constituents. And he's not planning on bringing it back up. Again, I say to him, you are a coward. I wish you would have never done it in the first place. I wish you would have never brought it up in the first place. If you didn't have the spine to fall. follow through on it. Shame on you. You're exactly what Charlie Kirk fought against in the GOP. You read against what it says. It's like some held signs that read no to show their opposition.

And then Commissioner David Glass, he's quoted in this article from the Hill, and he just says, I'm going to take a breath and have some more conversations with my constituents after this showed up. And he was the one who originally put it on the voting

block. And just again, if you couldn't anticipate, that there would be angry liberals who would turn out to trash Charlie, to trash his legacy, to smear him, and to oppose this, yeah, why did you even bring this up? If you're going to fold the moment anyone voices the slightest opposition, why are you even in politics? Why?

Actually, okay, I take that back. You're a perfect representation of a lot of GOP people in politics. But why are you, it's aggravating in the extreme. But here's the deal. You know, you've got one side that, you know, is basically trying to honor Charlie. This guy's done a poor job, okay. And then you got this other side that apparently is so deranged that they can't wrap their mind around honoring Charlie. But they don't have the self-awareness to realize that it's their party that's inflicting the violence.

It's their party that has a violence problem. Last night at the State of the Union, President Trump asked everybody to stand up against political violence. they refuse to do so, it's appalling, and they are telling themselves this lie. And so this is why this is important, Blake, because when you will not honor Charlie, a victim of political violence, a martyr for the American free speech, a Christian martyr, when you won't do that, you are denying that you have a problem of political violence. You're bearing your head in the sand, and you're not acknowledging it, and they keep telling themselves this lie.

This is from CNN, from April 2025. This is what they tell themselves, 363. While America's roots are soaked in bloodshed, violence in the country today is mostly from right-wing extremism. From Oklahoma City to Charlottesville to January 6th. There is simply no equivalent on the left. This is what they believe, Blake, and it's appalling. These people are lunatics. There's this insane lie that we just have to endure over and over again.

Yeah, like there where they, it's like that Nazi article the other day. in the Atlantic where they're calling you a Nazi because that is their excuse to treat you horribly, to scream at you. And it's all projection from top to bottom. They're the ones who want to censor speech. They're the ones who would try to cancel Charlie's events. They're the ones who would try to scream him off the platform. They're endlessly, they tried to tear him down while he was alive.

They try to tear him down now that he's a murder. Repulsive creatures. Repulsive. Now welcome into the show is Sean Davis, co-founder of the Federalist. CEO, great man, great American, great patriot. Sean, I'll give you the layup question. Tell me what you thought of what you thought of the president's state of the union last night. I thought it was spectacular. Previously, I thought the best speech he had ever given was the 2020 state of the union right before COVID hijacked the country in the election. I was in the room that day and he blew

the roof off the place. I thought this one was even better. The contrast that he was able to draw between who Democrats work for and who Republicans work for, which America they represent. Turns out Democrats don't really represent America at all. I thought it was great. I thought he laid out a roadmap for getting through the next nine months, winning the election. And the question that I now have is, are Republicans in Congress willing to do what they need to do to keep that momentum and follow that roadmap so they don't get blown out in November? And, Sean, do you think Republicans in the Senate are going to have that? do what is necessary to maintain that momentum. I know you've been commenting on that online.

Yeah, Blake, I'm going to take the under on that one. I don't have a whole lot of confidence. But, hey, like, we've got nine months. It's an eternity in politics. There's no one like Trump who has the ability to bully people, especially people on his own side to do what needs to get done. But what Republicans have to understand is that was an amazing speech, but Donald Trump's not on the ballot. They are. So they have to give people reasons to vote for them. They can't just rely on Donald Trump to do all their work for them. Amen. I think that is such a important point. You have to give the base reasons to turn out.

We talk about this in terms of California. This is an easy example. A lot of people aren't focusing on California. They successfully got enough signatures to get voter ID on the ballot in California. That is going to energize California Republicans to turn out. And that might mean the difference of holding the House and not, even with all the shenanigans in California. So it's so important to give the base what it wants to vote for.

You've got to put wins on the board. This is last night, President Trump talking about Pass the Save Act. Then I'm going to play Thune's reaction to it this morning and have your reaction. 5.03. And perhaps most importantly, I'm asking you to approve the Save America Act to stop illegal aliens and others who are unpermitted persons from voting in our sacred America. election. And Leader Thune was asked about that this morning on Fox 504. The Democrats, even in the chamber last night, having to sit there and try and defend, allowing non-citizens to vote in American elections. That is a losing proposition for them.

So we will get a vote on it. And we are right now in the middle of a government shutdown, so we've got to try and get the government opened up first. But in due time, we will have, we will get that up on the floor. We will have a vote on it. We will make sure that the The Democrats are on the record. It is a stark contrast between Republicans and Democrats about how they want to handle elections in this country. And this is going to put them, I think, in a very difficult position. It's an issue if I were running as a Democrat in the midterm elections in November, I wouldn't want to have to defend. All right, Sean, you have been around swamp creatures for a long time.

Can you please translate? Yes, classic failure theater. If you listen to what Trump asked for, he said, I want you to pass the Save America Act. I want voter ID. I want citizenship verification. And then if you listen to what John Thune said, he didn't say we're going to pass that. He didn't say we're going to make that happen. He said, we're going to get a vote on it. Well, congratulations. Like, it takes no effort to get a vote on something. One senator in the minority can get a vote on whatever he wants whenever he wants. Getting a vote is not a victory. Getting a vote is failure. And even worse, he is allowing Democrats to block the Save America Act and to block voter ID by doing nothing. He's basically. He's basically saying the default here is that we don't do anything unless we have 60 votes. We're not going to require Democrats to come and control the floor and actually talk about why they're opposing it. We're just going to let them vote once and block it. And then we're going to move on to other things like permitting reform, whatever, whatever some corporate K Street lobbyist wants.

It is failure theater. It is designed to fail. And he is designing it to fail in a way where he can patent himself on the back and be like, well, I did what I said. Well, I was going to do. I gave a vote and we created a contrast. We already have the contrast. What we want is results. Yeah, I noticed as far as failure theater goes, the sort of pre-defeated lines he was using,

he's saying, we'll get them on the record. They'll have to account for their vote in November. But like the SAVE Act is not about holding Democrats accountable for their votes. It is about requiring voter ID in an election. It is about taking steps to prevent potential fraud or the easy signing up of dubious votes. And as you say, the whole thing, it's, it's a song and dance. You and I know we've heard for decades. It is just the, it's that sort of fake Senate, the fake Congress, where since the default is nothing will pass other than omnibus spending bills, everything else is phony. And

that's actually, that's the best argument for getting rid of the filibuster is we should have a Congress that actually does things again. And the only way that will happen is if they can pass votes by a majority vote. Yeah, so I probably disagree on getting rid of the filibuster because I don't think you need to get rid of it. The problem with Republicans in the Senate is they're just lazy. They don't want to do work. They don't want to have to be on the floor every day. They certainly don't want to have to be on the floor Monday through Friday. Like, what are they normal people having to work 40 hours a week? That's below them. So, you know, in theory, I understand why some people think the filibuster is the problem here. But it's really not. If they were to pass,

to nuke the filibuster tomorrow, they might maybe pass one or two bills, and then that's it. I mean, to me, the problem here is not structural. The problem is we have members who are too lazy to do the work. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y Reefi. You've probably been hearing me talk about Y Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt,

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This is saying we have a structural issue in our elections that is going to fundamentally impact the election. So we need to do it before the election. We don't need a contrast vote. We don't need a show vote, a messaging vote. We already know that they're against this. We already know that the Republicans are for it. So before it, and don't be a coward. I genuinely, so, yes, Sean, you know this better than I do.

I was invited to go to the State of the Union. I was very honored. Andy Ogles' office had me out there. It was great. Love being there. And they wanted to give me an insider view of the way Capitol Hill works, right? Because I've never lived in D.C. I don't live in D.C. I'm here right now. I don't know it.

But they took me to this Capitol Club restaurant. You probably know it. So I go in there. It's not much to see. see, but it's like all K Street lobbyists. It's all these special interests, whining and dine in. They have to pay all this money to get a membership.

And you just go into this place, and your skin starts crawling, because you can feel the dubious backroom deals getting, like, hatched right in front of your eyes. And they took me there so that I could see it. I wasn't like partaking. I wasn't, like, you know, please. But it creep me out.

And you know this swamp system better than most, Sean. This is what I hear when I hear John Thune saying, we're going to get a show vote on this. Yeah, you're exactly right. It was the Capitol Hill Club. I think between C and D Street on 1st Street, southeast and right across from the Cannon Building there. Yeah, yeah, that is where they do their deals. It's where they hang out with each other and have a good time and try to think up all the ways they're going to screw the American public or try to pull the wool over our eyes by not doing what they said. And that's what people are so frustrated with. And I think it's one reason why Trump has been such. a breath of fresh air in politics is the guy says he's going to do something and then he does it. Like what a revolutionary idea in politics to say you're going to do something and then do it. And the thing about midterm elections is they are base elections. You have to give your base a reason to

turn out. Yes, Democrats are crazy people who hate America. We get that, but you can't just win on negative vibes against the other side. You have to get your people jacked up on successes that you've pushed through to get them to fight and come to the polls for you. This is, I think the central message of today's show. It has to be. President Trump got massive positive marks on his speech last night. He laid out the framework and the roadmap for how to win the midterms. Do what he said.

Trust Trump on this one. The weird thing is, is you will win elections by winning. And it's the most frustrating thing with what Thune said. it is the pre-defeat. It is the, we'll hold the vote. Nothing will change. But we'll look at the contrast. No, you will win by delivering wins for the public and having credible promises of future wins. And the best way to have credible promises of future wins is the list of wins you've already lined up. And people are very, very fed up with fakeness. This is why liberals do well. They often, their ideas are horrible, but they often deliver them.

Look at Virginia. Sean Davis, CEO of the Federalist, co-founder of the Federalist. I check it every day. You should too. Great, great reporting there at the Federalists. Thank you, Sean Davis. God bless you, man. Thank you, guys.

We are joined on set here in D.C. by the one and only, Jack Posobic. What's going on? People don't realize that we shop for Blazers together, so, you know, is one of our... They're very similar. One of our trips. They're very similar. There are many trips.

Jack, you said something to me that stuck with me. Uh-oh. You said it wasn't just a home. It was home run derby. It really was. So you are a messenger. You're a messenger. You're a conduit of the base and base energy.

How important was that speech? Look, I think when you look at the way that President Trump undertook that speech for pretty much every single section of it, he was taking those issues that are right down the middle. It was a fastball right down the middle. It was like pitching during a home run derby. And he set it up. Of course, they orchestrated it this way to create this trap for the Democrats. that, you know, I dare you to be against this.

I dare you to be against American citizens. I dare you to be against America heroes. I, even having Erica there, Erica with Arena Zarutska, which is just, it blew my mind. The parents of Arena Zarutka, to be sitting there. And in fact, Blake and I were in the chat during the speech. We're saying, can you tell who Erica is sitting next to? We couldn't, you know, we didn't recognize them.

I don't think she knew who they were. Oh, really? That's my, I haven't talked to her about it, but they, you know, I talked to her before and she was like, I'm going in solo, you know, because it's such limited seat. Yeah, the seats are not. So you don't get like a plus one. And so you go in there and it was kind of like, you know, here's the president's area. But you don't, it's not like they introduced each other. I figured there was, I figured that it wasn't done by chance, though. I figured there was some reason.

Listen, one of Charlie's final things that he messaged so hard on was the murder of Arenas. This was last week. Yeah. I pulled it up last night. So it was 1235 Eastern, so just two hours, literally, just two hours. Yeah, and he believed, he said, we have to politicize this because it was a political malady that created it. That, you know, there's cashless bail putting repeat criminals back on the streets to murder innocent Americans. And so, yeah, it was a very fitting position.

You think of the logistics, by the way, to get a family like that out of Ukraine and all the people, to just be in that room at that. I can't even imagine. Because we try to get people together for Amfest, and it's like, oh, it's hurting cats. It's so hard. Yeah, I mean, so the question then becomes, okay, there's been a lot of dumerism.

There's been a lot of black pilling. You know, I love, I love Rich Barris, like a brother, but he's been very negative on some of the polling that he's seeing. Is this going to be enough? Is this this spark that lights, you know, the midterm? It was a big shot in the arm. Just to see the president up there, showing that he showed the

2024 energy again. And when I was with him down in Georgia at that rally, I could see sparks of it. I remember saying that on the show that... Oh, when you went to Rome just recently. To Rome, Georgia, and he's giving that speech at the steel factory. And we could see, this doesn't seem like

2025 or 2026 Trump. This seems like 2024. You and I were talking about it. I think people underestimate the weight of the world that exists on a president's shoulders constantly day and day out. day in, day out, and to then have to turn around and be a showman, which Trump is very good at, but you know, you've been in the White House, you've been, you've seen him behind closed doors

and the weight that he is under all the time. Yeah. I think it's, and he's almost 80. Let's just be honest. I mean, he doesn't show signs of it, but, I mean, just, I think maybe take us into the room. I mean, that balancing act he has to do between making these incredibly difficult decisions in Iran or whatever, as well as having to be. showman in chief having to be the lead cheerleader for the country.

This is something that I think everyone needs to understand is that as much as he enjoys putting on the show, he is the greatest showman. We all saw that last night. There's no question that he takes this all very seriously. And when he meets with victims, like he spent the day with the angel families, meeting with Arenas Rutska's parents, meeting with Erica, who, you know, and they still talk regularly, that checking in, by the way that he does, he takes this very personally, very, Honestly, he's a much more emotional guy than I think people give him credit for.

Oh, yeah, for sure. He could be doing anything else with his life. And people are trying to kill him on a regular basis. Blake will attest we did a whole show on this yesterday about that speech with Angel families. And he said, I don't know how much longer I'm going to be here. A lot of people are gunning for me. Yeah. And you think instantly of Charlie.

You think instantly of what just happened at Mar-a-Lago. and you think about the political violence problem on the left, you couldn't even get them to stand up in the gallery for a message against political violence. Blake, I want to bring you in here. I don't, you know, we're on set here. But you realize the weight of the world on President Trump, it's got to be an impossible balancing act. And I don't think we personalize him enough sometimes.

Yeah, well, it's, I sometimes think about that. It's got to be one of the most alien experiences in the world for the president that, even when he's not president, he's been the most famous person in the world. I think you could safely say for a decade at this point. He's always been holding court. He has endless people who are talking to him, endless people who are trying to influence him,

endless people who are trying to flatter him. And it does have, and, you know, he is endlessly seeing himself on TV, and he knows there's a lot of people who would want him dead. I truly do wonder, what would it be like to be that person?

It's got to be one of the most unusual existences that anyone has ever lived in the history of the world. And the fact that he's delivered on as much as he has in the past year, I think we should always be grateful in that context that he could very easily have said, he could have very easily made a call to a Democrat and said, I will go away and retire forever if you guys just leave me $3 billion and stop trying to put me in jail. And he didn't do that. He instead came back to Washington, made them angrier than ever. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.