The Charlie Kirk Show - The Most Horrifying Video of 2026

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

One day later, there are new and horrifying revelations about the Canadian lunatic who became the latest transgender spree killer. Andrew and Blake play a tape that is not for the faint of heart and t...alk about the deadly dangers unleashed by the left's false compassion for deeply troubled people. Rep. Chip Roy talks about the House's passage of the SAVE Act and the campaign to get the Senate GOP united behind this critical bill for America's elections.   Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:56 The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers. All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are still in Palm Beach. Well, I am, and Blake is holding it down in Phoenix, Arizona. We want to start today's show by unpacking some of the newest details involving the trans shooter in Canada. The left nine dead, including himself, as well as his stepbrother, a 12-year-old stepbrother and his mom,
Starting point is 00:01:32 and then killing a bunch of kids and one teacher. The kids were between 12 and 13. It's just an absolutely excruciating story. But some of the details that have emerged have been raising eyebrows just because they are so, I would say, troubling, demonic, frightening. And we have to play this video because I think it sets the tone for what we're about to unpack now.
Starting point is 00:02:01 this is the alleged Canada shooter laughing maniacally and I want you to look at this video of this individual and then realize that instead of getting mental help or spiritual help the officials in Canada instead decided to pour poison in drugs and more SSRIs down his throat for those who can't see it he's he does makeup on like he's the Joker from the Dark Night like on his face kind of, you know, like Heath Ledger from the Dark Knight. It seems to be like cackling to himself. And that's such a, it's an underrated, because they would basically censor it, a part of the radical transgender ideology is so much of it is people who get lost in
Starting point is 00:02:51 fictional worlds, they want to become fictional characters. One reason, when people change their names, they tend to not just pick a feminine version of their original name. They'll pick like a totally new one, like they're creating a new character in a video game. And that's one of something incredible that was found the other day.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Years ago, Matt Walsh on his Twitter account, he posted something that had been posted on a Reddit thread about transgenderism. And it was a user who's saying, how do I stop comparing myself to fictional characters? And they go on,
Starting point is 00:03:25 I am a trans MTF, 15 year old, I've been viewing a lot of anime-related content. was never into before and goes on about always relating himself to these anime characters. And Matt Walsh posts this and basically saying, these people are not mentally well. And everyone on the pro-transgender red, it's flipped out at the time. It went viral at the time. And now here we are three years later. And it appears the owner of that account is the young man who murdered two of his family members and then a bunch of innocent people at his, a bunch of innocent children at his own school.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Yeah, and we have the video here with the sound, and I wanted to play it with the sound, because when you see this with the audio, I think it's even more impactful. It's more terrifying. 469. Yeah. Never play that video on this program again. Oh my gosh. Yeah. We will never do that again.
Starting point is 00:04:50 But I think it's important because these are the people that a certain contingent of the population, mostly radical progressives, are doing everything in their power to defend, to apologize full. to create avenues and protections legal or otherwise, as opposed to getting them the help that they need. You should have compassion on people that have mental health issues. You should not enable those mental health issues. But another wrinkle has emerged that this individual had a Roblox account.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And this is going to be a repeated theme on this show moving forward. We're going to unpack what Roblox is. Blake is our resident gaming expert here. I've never played Roblox account. Well, but you probably know more about it than I do. Belonging to the Canadian mass shooter, it was discovered by the internet forum Kiwi Farms last night. One of the games created by the shooter is a mall shooting simulator,
Starting point is 00:05:44 a mall shooting simulator modeled after a real mall in Canada, where the player can fire into a crowd of innocent, helpless, terrified civilians. So this is what young kids can do on Roblox. They can create simulations. They can create their own worlds that they can then act out these fantasies. I think this is interesting because actually the Kentucky Attorney General is actually suing Roblox and is charting is citing the assassination of Charlie as one of his inspirations for doing this because he's saying that the gaming platform is violating child safety by giving them
Starting point is 00:06:30 opportunity to create these simulations where they can shoot ice officers, where they can shoot DHS officers, where they can, in this instance, create a simulation where they're attacking innocent civilians at a mall, modeled after a mall. So if you think this through, you realize that they could be creating an entire map for how they can game out an actual attack on civilians. So they're creating the map in their head so that they could, in theory, follow through on an actual shooting based on the actual layout of a mall in this instance, or any other public space, any other soft target. So that's the Kentucky Attorney General Russell Coleman,
Starting point is 00:07:13 and the gaming platform has 111 million active monthly users, and he's alleging that it lacks guardrails to protect kids and creates a playground for pedophiles to meet potential victims, which is another weird wrinkle in this Roblox story. So you've got a whole gaming platform that now we know that this kid was on Reddit. He was talking about his trans fascination on Reddit. He was creating Roblox simulations where he was doing mass shootings. And then he actually ends up going and doing it.
Starting point is 00:07:49 And shooting his mom, shooting his stepbrother, shooting a bunch of kids and a teacher. And meanwhile, the Canadian officials, we talked about this yesterday, went out of their way to protect the identity and the privacy of the shooter. Out of privacy concerns, they refused to acknowledge at first that this was a trans person that shot up everybody in Canada. Yeah, well, think about that. The absolute upside down nature of their value system that they would care about the privacy of a mass murderer.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Go ahead, Blake. Yeah, well, yeah, they kept it a secret basically. It almost felt like just long enough to like, okay, we have to, like, push this past the first day. And then, you know, they ultimately can't keep it secret who did a massacre like this. On the Roblox topic, it's, you don't want to fixate on the specific game. Though it is true, a ton of people are in it. It's hugely popular.
Starting point is 00:08:44 But you also find these people in Minecraft. You find them in similar games. And you'll also see people, we saw this with Charlie, where people are going in discords. Discord started as a gaming server for people to discuss games. But now there's a million discords dedicated. to political radicalism. It's dedicated to transgender topics. They radicalize each other on these forums.
Starting point is 00:09:07 And I think the big picture thing to be aware of, like if you're a parent right now, if you're a parent right now, you have to realize there are gigantic online worlds that it's very easy for your children to get sucked into and have it just totally take over their life. If you don't know who your children are talking to online, you have to be aware.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Very dark things could be going on. And it's not that you need to police everything you do, but you should be talking to them. Who are your friends online? And make sure they have friends offline as well. If they're just marinating in this soup of whatever is reaching them on the internet, all alone with no input from real people around them, incredibly dark things can be unfolding.
Starting point is 00:09:47 And as parents, you have a responsibility to be aware of that. Fantasies lead to realities. And for goodness sakes do not shove SSRIs down their throats when they're dealing with severe mental illness. If you're stressed about getting out of debt, it's go time. Seriously, this is one of those moments where timing actually matters. Done with debt is one of the best I've seen at navigating debt relief. 2025 was a record year. They enrolled over $102 million in debt for our listeners and others. Here's why I'm telling you about this now, though. According to the Federal Reserve's latest survey, many banks have tightened their standards. Right now, maybe the best window to negotiate settlements before
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Starting point is 00:12:00 These are public incidents with four more fatalities expressed as rates per million of the population. Trans, non-binary biological male tops the list per capita of mass shootings. Trans-nonary biological female comes in second than Asian men, black men, white men, Asian women, Hispanic men. Now, again, we're working on confirming the source, but it's hard to argue when you look back, even just at recent history, when you look back at what even happened with Charlie, although the Charlie Shooter was not a trans individual himself, he had a relationship with somebody that was trans and had gender identity, whatever. And so this is a rising epidemic, a problem where we give drugs, mental drugs, mental health drugs,
Starting point is 00:12:52 SSRIs, etc, hormone therapy to the most mentally unstable people in our population. and it needs to stop. It should be frankly illegal what they're doing to young people. And Blake, do you have that list of recent shootings, school shootings, involving trans individuals? I don't have it in front of me,
Starting point is 00:13:10 but I can remember a lot off the top of my head. We have the Covenant School Shooter. That was a biological female, but still a trans case. There was one at school in Colorado, I think in 2017. There were two shooters, but one was transgender.
Starting point is 00:13:26 There was the Annunciation Catholic in Minneapolis just a matter of months ago. In fact, just days before what happened to Charlie. And of course, we have Charlie's own case, which is adjacent. And now this. And it's not that there's a huge number of them by volume. But overall, there's not, thankfully, there's not that many spree killers overall.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And there's not that many transgender people. They're probably under 1% of the population, even with young people. And so to have four or five of them, just in a sequence of a matter of years, it really does stand out. And I don't think that's going to be the last we're going to see of it because we took this insane cocktail of people who are deeply troubled. And instead of getting them help, we've told them actually your delusions should be indulged. And if people are not indulging them, they're trying to commit genocide against you. And rationally, how do you respond to people trying to commit genocide against you?
Starting point is 00:14:24 and just fed all of these lies about how they should view this, how they should act, and then supercharged with any number of drugs. Hormones, SSRIs, the shooter in Tumblr Ridge, he was apparently taking like over 200 milligrams a day of Zoloft when 25 is the one you start with, and I think 200 is the absolute maximum. So super dosing on this and on a bunch of other drugs as well. And shocker, it blew up in every. everyone's faces, and I don't think this will be the last one we see. No, I agree, but this is a larger theme of Democrat, or if you want to just say progressive,
Starting point is 00:15:02 left-wing compassion gone awry. They do this at the border. They think that letting in millions of people at the border is compassion. Then it leads to lots of dead Americans. It leads to carnage in the streets, commercial trucks, getting into mass fatality, accidents on our highways. It is the complete opposite of compassion. It's actually cruelty to the American citizen.
Starting point is 00:15:23 and its cruelty in this case to the Canadian citizen. When you absolutely defy nature, when you defy law and order, when you defy the natural order, it ends in these absolute catastrophes. And that's one of the themes of Democrat compassion. They'll always label or put a veneer of compassion on some of the cruelest, most obscene, most crass, most absurd policies or positions that they take in the public space,
Starting point is 00:15:53 and they need to be called out again and again and again because real people are getting hurt. And by the way, this young man should have been helped. You should have been dealt with with compassion and with honesty, with sincerity. But the left creates a ideological prison around normal people that they cannot navigate out of. They're not equipped to navigate out of it. And they get stuck in these ideological cul-de-sacs where even this mother, who apparently was sort of a right-leaning, libertarian-type person, posted on her social media
Starting point is 00:16:25 that we shouldn't be attacking marginalized people. And with a, Blake, correct me if I'm wrong. It was a picture on her social media with like a trans flag or a LGBTQ flag. Exactly. She had, the language of compassion sort of takes over these people's brains
Starting point is 00:16:40 and they interpret compassion as endless enabling. So we enable the delusions of people who think they're the opposite sex. We enable people to, for example, people who shouldn't be in this country who aren't qualified for jobs. We help them get into jobs that they should not be working
Starting point is 00:16:57 because they are not qualified for them. They are not capable of them. And we enable addicts to get drugs. We enable the homeless to wreck communities. And this is cruelty to the individuals themselves. Like, I don't think this trans shooter, it didn't work out well for him that he was enabled endlessly.
Starting point is 00:17:14 It doesn't work out well for people who are working the wrong job and they end up killing people. They end up going to jail. And it doesn't work out for anyone in society. when we wreck our cities, when we wreck our public spaces, when we wreck our institutions. It is fake compassion. Real compassion requires sometimes making hard choices. This young man probably should have been in an institution somewhere, somewhere that he could get help,
Starting point is 00:17:40 and at the least where he couldn't hurt himself or other people. And instead, nine people are dead. And 25 injured. There's also a harrowing story of a 12-year-old that was shot in the head, and she's still surviving and we pray for her and her family. Just a terrible situation all the way around. If you knew Charlie Kirk, you knew this. He was a connector. Charlie believed in finding good people and connecting them with other good people that he cared about. When someone truly took care of him, Charlie would never hesitate to recommend them.
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Starting point is 00:19:17 Without further ado, Congressman Chip Roy, welcome back to the Characet Charlie Kirk's show, sir, there's been so much news on the SAVAC. Can you give our audience an update where we are at now? Yeah, great to be on with you guys. Appreciate it. I appreciate your attention to this important issue. You know, I introduced the SAVACs as in its original form in 2024, working with Senator Mike Lee, who was the sponsor of the Senate. You guys know this. We worked with Cleena Mitchell, who's one of President Trump's great lawyers with America First Legal, built a great product that was focused on the citizenship angle, right? Ensuring that we had a process. when people were going through their registration in the future,
Starting point is 00:19:54 that there was processes for them to demonstrate citizenship, and importantly for states to check their voter rolls against citizenship data, which they're currently prohibited from doing under federal law. I'll come back to that in a minute. So we fixed that. But then enter voter ID. We thought about putting voter ID with it two years ago, but we decided to keep it really simple, focus on citizenship.
Starting point is 00:20:14 So we passed it. What happened? Senate blocked it. Even though we had four Democrats, five, I'm sorry, five joined us last Congress. We reintroduced it this Congress. We had four Democrats join us, but it wasn't moving in the Senate because we knew that Democrats would block it. So we've been having this debate, and we said, let's add voter ID. The president likes the branding of Save America.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Let's put those two together. Let's pass that out of the House, send it to the Senate. And with the great work of Scott Pressler, of a whole bunch of organizations, you guys, everybody else keeping the heat up, we've now got it out of the House. We passed it through last night, had one Democrat join us, so it's still bipartisan. It's over in the Senate. and now Mike Lee, Scott Pressler and others are working it hard. And I think I just saw on Twitter or on X that 48, I think now senators have signed on to the same America act, leaving only five in question. McConnell and Murkowski have indicated they may not support it on federalism grounds, which I think is fake.
Starting point is 00:21:10 This totally honors federalism in the Constitution. So that's the current state of play. Now we've just got to figure out what they do in the Senate. Yeah. So explain, you brought up two points. the federalism angle as well as, well, let's start there, federalism angle, because the issue is that the Constitution gives the states the rights to the time and the place of their elections, right? So this is kind of the angle. What is your argument and your retort to that?
Starting point is 00:21:37 Yeah, first of all, hard to find somebody who has stood up over their life to defend states more than myself and Mike Leak, right? We're two of the most ardent federalists up here. When I was the first assistant attorney general in Texas, we were fighting against federal overreaching. I wrote a book with Rick Perry about federalism. I served at the Texas Public Policy Center's 10th Amendment Center. So I love federalism, comma, however. What we're talking about here is something that has very clear purview in the Constitution for us. Stop for a minute and consider elections.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Federally, we set elections in November, right? We don't tell states that they have to run their state elections on the same day, but they do. That's basically what we say we're doing here. We're setting the guardrails around things under the power in the Constitution, under the elections clause, under a number of the amendments that walk through going in the 14th Amendment and a whole bunch of others. They give us power. But in particular, power over dealing with the elections when it's our elections, Congress and the presidency. It does say the states do the time, place, and mayor. But it also then says Congress can come in and do it too, explicitly in the Constitution.
Starting point is 00:22:44 So we generally defer to the states. Like we're not telling them where the polling places have to be. We don't tell them that their state elections have to be on a certain date, but we're saying for the federal elections, do them in November for the general election. And now we're adding these components. Hey, we just want to guarantee citizenship. And the last thing, we're freeing up states to do what they want to do but are prohibited from doing now. So it's pro-federalism.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Arizona has two ways of electing. You guys know Arizona well. Arizona checks citizenship for state and local, but is prohibited for. from doing it for federal. So they have to run two systems. And they don't check the data on federal because they're not allowed to. The Save Act fixes that. The Save America Act.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Yeah, explain the prohibition on checking citizenship at on the federal level. Where is that come from? What laws that? And what does it actually look like when it's enforced or in action, rather? Yeah. So the NVRA passed in the 90s. I can remember the acronym, natural voter registration act, whatever, NVRA. that had a clause in there that was interpreted by courts, I think wrongly, but it was interpreted that way,
Starting point is 00:23:52 to say that the states were allowed to take their voter rolls, to say Arizona, take that their list, and go, hey, we want to check that against what's called the save system. It's why we call this the save act, the save system, which is the system where we have our citizenship data and make sure those are aligned. The court said you can't do that. So we set out to fix that. Then we added to it additional requirements. requirements. It says the next time you register, if you're already registered, you can go vote. The next time you register, you move, you change your name, then you got to go and say, look, I can prove my citizenship. Here's how I do it. Maybe that's the state sets of a system, check roles using real ID or whatever they're doing. Maybe it's passport. Maybe it's your regular driver's license plus a birth
Starting point is 00:24:35 certificate. We set up other ways we give the state flexibility. But that's what that's all about. Check the roles. Get it right. I would argue that's deferential to states. That's helping states do what most of them want to do. And by the way, on the voter ID piece, 30, I think five states, 36, 36 states have voter ID. So we're just trying to align all of that for that all of our federal elections operate the same framework. Voter ID, citizenship, and then the states are still free to set their times where the polling is in a school, community center, wherever it is. Well, so I want to react to something. So President Obama has chimed in. He's saying Republicans are still trying to pass the Save Act. A bill that we get hard. to vote and disenfranchised millions of Americans. Join Redistrict Act and tell your member of Congress to vote.
Starting point is 00:25:22 No. And then I couldn't help but see this beautiful clip with Scott Jennings on CNN last night where chaos erupts. I don't know if you saw this congressman, but it's a phenomenal clip. I'll get your reaction on the other side, 437. He is actually championing a bill that actually would take voting rights away from a lot of black people in this country. Wait, what voting rights is he taking?
Starting point is 00:25:46 away from black voters? Oh, if we look at the save back? That's exactly what we're talking about. That is actually going to continue to disenfranchise, overwhelmingly a lot of people of color. There are so many civil rights organizations that have run the data. If we look at the way that it is going to disenfranchise black voters, it's the same reason why Chuck Schumer called it, Jim Crow 2.0. This is the same president. If we want to continue.
Starting point is 00:26:08 You haven't said how yet? 76% of black voters think we should show an ID to vote, 80% of Hispanic voters, 83% of the American people. Are you saying that black voters are too dumb to know what's good for them? I mean, it sounds pretty kind to send out what I mean. So Abby Phillips comes in later and she says, well, you know the Save Act isn't about that.
Starting point is 00:26:28 You got like most people don't have their birth certificate. Most people don't have, you know, a passport. What's your reaction to that pushback, Congressman? Well, first of all, good for Scott Jennings. He's doing the right thing in pushing back. And he's making the right points, right? But I'll make one additional point in using an example. who it was and what show did it. But somebody went out in the field and interviewed people in New York
Starting point is 00:26:50 about this issue. Last year, I think it was. And I've seen this out in social media. And they ask a bunch of white liberals in Manhattan. And they said, hey, isn't it racist? Don't you have a problem with this? It would be a real problem with voter ID and these kind of rules. And all of these white liberals said, oh, yeah, it's terrible. Black people. And they don't know where the DMV is. They don't often have ID. They don't have a computer. They can't go on the internet and all this stuff. Then they went up, you know, into Harlem and above Manhattan and they interviewed some black Americans in Harlem and said, hey, do you know where the DMV is? Yeah, it's up on 128 and, you know, whatever. Do you have an ID? Yeah, I have an ID. Do you use the internet and have a computer? Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:27:31 it's absurd. It's the height of racism and condescension that these, you know, nanny state white liberals want to tell everybody how they can do things and they say, oh, well, you can't. Look, I actually think the least functioning people in America are these white liberals that have been coddled all the way through their ridiculous pampered education and they don't really know how to function in a normal society. On the core issue of the SAVE Act and the voter ID, the polling is obvious. People support it. We worked very hard to give flexibility to states to allow this all to work. So let's take the women's issue. They say, well, women are going to be able to vote because their name change. First of all, it's a tiny fraction of the population who have changed, You got married, their name's different, and they haven't already done all of the stuff they have to do for anything else they need.
Starting point is 00:28:19 But in that environment, we added a provision that says if you go and you have a conflict with your voter ID, you can cast a provisional ballot, sign an affidavit and say, my name is, you know, Jennifer Smith, and I changed it to Jennifer Jones, right? And you can sign that affidavit under penalty perjury and vote. So you can do things that are common sense. And the same act, when we talk about proving citizenship, we have lots of different ways to do that and allow you to use lots of different forms of identification. And you can get a free copy of your birth certificate if you're down to that piece of the process. So it is not a hybrid. It's ridiculous. Yeah, it's obscene.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I mean, I find the whole thing laughable, how they're twisting themselves into pretzels to try and defend this. It's going to disenfranchise millions. Yeah, it's going to disenfranchise millions of illegals and foreigners who shouldn't be voting in our election. Hi folks, Andrew Colvette here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y Reefi. You've probably been hearing me talk about Y Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt,
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Starting point is 00:30:41 cases of non-citizen voting. So it's false as some of my Democratic colleagues have claimed that it doesn't happen. Yes. I ask that today because we're voting on the Save America Act today to enact common sense policy to ensure only American citizens vote in American elections and enact federal voter ID laws. But it's true, for example, that in just this month, a federal grand jury in Newark indicted two men with illegally voting in federal election and making false statements. Muhammad Mazzamil and Mohamed Shakil were non-citizens at the time they've registered to vote.
Starting point is 00:31:10 this happens, it happens regularly, and you're prosecuting those crimes, correct? Yes. But does that prosecution of those criminals overturn their previously cast votes? That's all pending. But it does not overturn votes that they've cast, right? So passing the same contract would help deal with that problem. Yes, Congressman. So there was a good interaction for her, but it was an explosive hearing.
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Starting point is 00:31:57 But she, I mean, she's got a tough job, Congressman. I mean, she had this interaction with Thomas Massey, about the Epstein files. Maybe just unpack how you see all that playing out. It was some of the victims had their names were not redacted, but some of the co-conspirators or, I mean, listen, I know this is weird waters to wait into, but the floor is yours. Well, no, I appreciate it. And first of all, I'm going to take it in a series of I have a few minutes. One, it was a very, you know, explosive hearing.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Democrats were going after her combatively, trying to attack her on the basis of what the situation is on the Epstein matter. Rather than going through it logically and sort of calmly to get her, and elicit, I think, questions on a tough subject. And when I got to my questions with the Attorney General, I focused on a handful of things. I wanted to set the groundwork on other issues like voter fraud. And I also talked about the extent to which they are eliminating backlogs in their immigration judges, their hearings of asylum and all those things.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Important stuff as a baseline to show they're stopping crime. They're stopping illegal aliens when they're working with DHS with their judges. They're working to stop voter fraud. They're doing a lot of great work. crimes going down. So the baseline is America's better and safer. But Epstein is a real issue. We're all concerned about these power brokers and what Epstein himself did. But I focus this way. I said one, true or false. President Trump, his administration is the one that actually indicted Epstein. Answer, true. It was President Trump's administration that indicted Jelaine Maxwell.
Starting point is 00:33:31 True. Those two were in jail because of the first Trump term. President Trump's, Trump says, hey, we want to know all the files on this stuff. So what happens? Over the last year, a lot of files have gotten out. Democrats politicized it and they wanted to push for more information. Well, guess what? I want to see more information. I bet you guys want to see more information. We don't want these power brokers to abuse underage women in a sex trafficking ring. It's disgusting. So the question is how? When Congress passed the law that my friend Thomas and these other guys pushed, they did a discharge petition, we were concerned a lot of us that it wasn't tightly drafted enough to ensure that victims would be protected. So I asked the attorney general, Bobby, I said, is it not true that we pushed to try to make that a better demand if Congress was going to insert itself into the prosecutorial function, which is a questionable thing to do, but you want to do it to get more information. Shouldn't we have been tighter about that? And I said, so why did you guys, and I asked her a pointed question, why did you basically out some of the Jane Does? some of these women who were abused.
Starting point is 00:34:38 We didn't want their names out. That was not supposed to happen. So I pushed on her about it. And she basically admitted we were getting three million files out, and we didn't get it all done right. So we're fixing it. And when we saw some, we're fixing it. Now, that may not be a good excuse.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I don't know. We can debate that. But I wanted it to be honest and open. Last point. I pushed on this question. If Jolene Maxwell was convicted for trafficking in young girls and underage girls, was it just Epstein or are there others In other words, are you going to indict or go after anybody else?
Starting point is 00:35:09 And I was the only one that pressed her to the point to say, and she said, we have ongoing investigations on individuals that, you know, they're going to pursue further on that subject. So, look, I think they're trying to go after and seek the truth. We have a job to push. I'm going to try to go look at the files this afternoon. I was going to fly home, but I could only get a spot because of the hearing and the sayback this afternoon.
Starting point is 00:35:30 So I'm going to go over to DOJ and look at some of this stuff. But we're trying to seek the truth wherever it may lead. the attorney general is doing a good job stopping crime. And I think it was a bunch of political show by Democrats trying to score political points, not actually for truth. Yeah, and I would give her really good marks on some of her pushback. Like, why didn't you do this during Biden? You know, it's obviously a political football that they just see an opportunity now to take advantage of.
Starting point is 00:35:58 So I think that was high marks. I think she unfortunately went a little off the rails with this, you know, mentioning the Dow Jones being over $50,000 and the S&P almost at 500 or 7,000. I thought that was unfortunate. It was kind of an unforced air there. But to be fair to her, she's getting peppered with all these very belligerent questions again and again and again. And I'm glad to hear that because I actually didn't see that clip, Chip, about you, she confirmed to you that there's ongoing investigations about the co-conspirators, right?
Starting point is 00:36:28 That's been a big thing on X this week that Les Wexner is now, you know, one of the files had him listed as a co-conspirator. Obviously, that's the Victoria Secrets guy out Ohio that could power attorney to Epstein. Listen, Chip, in the last minute that we have here, you are running for Attorney General of Texas. What are your big issues, your plank issues that you're running on? I know you're an immigration hawk like me. That's one of the big reasons why I am very proud to support you. But what are your big issues? One minute left. Yeah, I mean, one, absolutely, the border. We have to ready ourselves to the fact that President Trump's not going to be there forever. We had it before, and then we got Biden Mayorkas, and our borders were exploited, and Americans were getting killed, and fentanyl's pouring at our community.
Starting point is 00:37:10 So we need an AG who's going to fight that and knows how to do it. I've been winning up here on that subject. I've got to take that to Texas. Number two, we've got to stop the Islamification of Texas. I held a hearing two days ago where we had great witnesses who came in and talked about what was going on, bounded the Sharia Free America Caucus with my fellow Texan Keith Self. We're elevating that issue. We need to go to war on that when we're in Texas.
Starting point is 00:37:32 I want to get criminals off the street. stop putting them out there with these ridiculous DAs and judges. You got to have an AG who's been there, who's been in the courtroom, who knows the AG's office, who's unassailably conservative and can get the job done. God's put me in that position. I survived cancer. I want to go out to Texas. Stayed my state for my kids.
Starting point is 00:37:50 You know what you need to do in Texas? You need to get these county prosecutors more in alignment with the AG's office, though. You guys, people don't realize that Texas has the largest conservative attorney's general team in the country. country. So it's a huge, huge, especially if we get a Democrat back in the White House, we need Texas to be strong. Chip Roy, thank you. God bless you, sir. We'll talk to you again soon. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

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