The Charlie Kirk Show - The Peacemaker President Does it Again + Who Knew About Charlie’s Assassin?

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

The Charlie Kirk team is in D.C. for the Presidential Medal of Freedom ceremony on Tuesday, but today's biggest event is President Trump's monumental victory for peace in the Middle East. Raheem Kassam and Liz Wheeler react and discuss the world wide reaction to Charlie's death. Plus, Raheem looks at the unfolding populist revolution in Britain and Liz showcases far-left militants who might have known about Charlie’s killing in advance. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Again, I'm Andrew Colvette. I'm joined by Rahim Qasam from the NationalPulse.com. Welcome, Rahim. Thank you. You're going to be with us, maybe the whole show. We'll see at least the first out. And, of course, Blake Neff, the not-so-secret weapon of the Charlie Kurtz. So, by the way, really great job hosting on Friday.

That was amazing. I got to spend some time with my family, and it was much appreciated. So great job to you, and Mikey and Danny. Thank you very much. So we have peace. I was riveted. I was by the TV this morning watching this historic moment come through the television, watching it from afar, Trump addressing the Knesset, BB Netanyahu addressing the Knesset. It was a remarkable display, something that I think we actually have unanimity in opinion across both the left and the right and internationally, that Trump was uniquely positioned to bring about the hostages coming home, all 20, live. living hostages, all men, and we'll get into that in just a second, that have now been returned

to their loved ones, their families in Israel. All of Israel is celebrating. They're dancing in the streets. These images are extraordinary that are coming out of the Middle East. And then President Trump had a very remarkable, I would say, speech where he actually called for BB to be pardon, which was not, apparently that was a complete ad lib. And then he flies to Egypt to work with international leaders in the region to bring about a wider piece to build upon the Abraham Accords. Rahim, first to you, you are our token international representative. Try and boil down the significance of this moment and how big of a win is this for the Trump administration and the world? You know, you can't, and by the way, firstly and foremost, thank you for having me.

And happy Columbus Day. Yes. I think as much as it might rankle your Senate majority leader, John Thune, who's declared it Native American Day. Very interesting tweet. On X. But happy Columbus Day to the world, actually. And while we're talking about world affairs, and we think about pivotal moments in history, obviously it's a historic occasion, important occasion to Mark. And it's now another important occasion to Mark.

I think peace in the Middle East is something that since we were children, has kind of become a farce, right? The notion of it has kind of become a farce. And along comes President Trump, you know, I'm wearing his autograph on my chest today. And along comes Trump and just, you know, the way he sort of, I call it, he kindly bullies those around it, right? And he kindly bullies these people who want to fight with each other, who want to war with each other.

They always find an excuse to fight in that region, right? Not just the Palestinians and the Israelis, across the whole region. And like you say, uniquely positioned to deliver something. that I think for very many years now, a lot of people have thought is completely impossible. Now, I will caveat it. I don't want to be too much of a Debbie Downer,

but like I say, they always find a reason to fight. And so, you know, the idea of a lasting piece rather than just a piece is the one that they'll now be wrestling with. You know, how do we actually make this stick? What incentives can we provide both sides to keep this stuff on the table and not return to a... And this is the problem. When you have Hamas, you have a faction

you have a faction that necessarily wants to cause conflict. You know, it's in the Hamas charter, right? The eradication of the state of Israel. And so as long as you have Hamas, the idea of a lasting peace is neither here and all that. Well, and there was already reports, Blake, this morning of some of the, you know, competing warlords within Gaza already killing each other. They have endless internal feuds with each other over who, you know, who controls what. And that's going to be, that's the big tough thing. A big reason this deal happened is Trump finally got both sides, especially Israel to agree to a deal that didn't involve Hamas immediately demobilizing.

And the belief is, or he's gambling, that they'll be able to hopefully pull this off with this summit they're holding in Egypt, get all the other Arab states to have buy-in to help support that this will happen. But that's going to be the big test. Even if it fails, of course, he still ended the conflict for now and he got the hostages out. So that was a big success. Huge success. And Blake, you were instrumental, especially as Charlie was gearing up for this campus tour, about the Israel topic.

I mean, you guys spent a lot of time working on it together. I mean, I was in those conversations too, but you were reading the books. You were kind of drilling him, prepping him, putting together talkers. Give us an insight into what this meant to Charlie. It was just, it was, he just cared a great deal. about it. He cared about peace. He cared about one of the, he always say, one of the most important

events of his life was when he went to the Holy Land. He was able to visit the places that Christ lived around the Sea of Galilee, in Jerusalem. And I think he was very aware of the hazards that could happen, you know, if, as some people would say, if Israel ceased to exist and it became just, you know, was overrun, was destroyed, you might have this fundamentalist Islamic State. They might destroy some of those sites or they might make them very inaccessible for people. I think he found it very important that there be a free Western non-Islamic country in the Holy Land. And he cared a lot about preserving that. I think, you know, I think back to this. And Charlie was really keen on this war coming to an end. I mean, of all the wars, this was the one he wanted to see end the quickest. And I think part of the

reason was because of the significance to younger voters. And so I'm going to play a clip here that that is Charlie actually talking about why President Trump was a man uniquely positioned for this moment and why young people were drawn to his message of peace. So let's go ahead and play cut 58. One of the main reasons we were able to get young people to vote for President Trump so overwhelmingly this last election was a reminder that President Trump is the peace president, that President Trump is able to broker the impossible peace deals. Look what he did the other day between India and Pakistan. Look at what he did in his first term.

And so I do believe that President Trump is uniquely positioned here to stand with our allies, to stand on the side of civilization, but also understand that his voters, they want to return to America first to stand with what is right and just in the world, but we do not want a potential endless quagmire in the Middle East. And I'm confident President Trump will make sure that does not happen. Yeah. I mean, that was the other big thing. He was always very worried that as long as this dragged on, there would be pressure for us to send troops there somehow, to get. enmeshed in it to just take on this new Middle Eastern obligation that he was not interested in. We saw that with Iran as well. And we definitely sweat a bit on the Iran one. So he was very close to the brink. But he ended up, he concluded it in a way, dropped one bomb and then no, a couple bombs. Well, like 14. Yeah, something like that. But then no other, you know, no other casualties, no real retaliation from Iran. He threaded that needle. And we were saying, as this was building up, that Trump has gained some credibility

and his ability to thread these needles in the Middle East. Yeah. Well, so we've got Thailand, Cambodia, Israel and Iran, which was a separate Israel conflict, Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo, Indian Pakistan, Serbia and Kosovo, Egypt and Ethiopia, Armenia,

Armenia and Azerbaijan, Israel, and Hamas. And now, if this holds, this is really so far the crown jewel of all of those, wouldn't you say? Because there's no getting around it. There is an added significance to the state of Israel. We all know it.

We all live in this reality where the internet is fixated on it, both those who are pro and against. And this, hopefully, my hope, Rahim, is that this would pull some of that pressure out of that conversation. We'll see. Yeah. And I think, you know, there's obviously political and like you say, the sort of online focus. Everything in my feed is Israel nowadays. Yeah, just constant, constant. It's also a massive historical thing, right?

Like, you can't really, you know, Thailand and Cambodia, sure, love them. Glad they're at peace. But this is reflective of something wider. This is when a man puts his shoulders to the wheel on something and achieves what nobody else possibly could have, right? You think about the characters, the figures that are involved in the so-called peace process over the last several decades, right? The Tony Blair's and the Yitzik Rabines and, you know, everybody who's been lauded,

Nobel prized, you name it, and it takes brash Mr. Trump from Brooklyn or Queens to come along and just and just, you know, stick his door in there. He found a deal. That's what he does. Hey, everybody, Andrew Colvette, executive producer of the Charlie Kirk Show. Charlie understood that to lead, he needed to learn. Hillsdale College was ready to teach him. While busy running his company, teaching America's youth and raising a beautiful family, Charlie still found time to complete 31 Hillsdale, Hillsdale, College free online courses. He talked about it the last time he spoke on his podcast with Hillsdale's president, Dr. Larry Arne. Hillsdale is the cutting edge, and I mean it. It is America's greatest college. You are a force of nature, Charlie Kirk. One of these days, I'm going to give you an

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Cut 44. Generations from now, this will be remembered as the moment that everything thing began to change and change very much for the better. Like the USA right now, it will be the golden age of Israel and the golden age of the Middle East. Generations from now, I have to say, that was exactly what I was thinking. I was like, you are watching history. And the fact that he seemed to sum that up in one powerful clip, I think, was really good. Should we play the person getting kicked out?

Oh, this was, I love this. Please expel this Knesset member. Please expel this Knesset member. Please expel him immediately. Sorry for that, Mr. President. very efficient so um i i i actually have a question for the audience i want to know which members of the u.s house of representatives you would most like to see be very efficiently escorted out of the chamber most who who most would you like to see escorted that i think the israelis have a have a point here i think they've taught they could teach us the thing or two i know so email us

freedom at charlie kirk dot com and tell us who you'd like to see escorted out most quickly so wait can i yeah go ahead can we have a say in this as well yeah i would love to prefer an opinion on that you have to email you have to email yeah well today it would be john thun for me yeah he's in the center i kept it to the house of representatives for a particular reason but no let's expand it to the but i think i think the um the most entertaining one would probably be jasmine croquette you know because she'd go off she would be a whole thing about it you know her nails We have a good Jasmine croquette clip or two, I think, actually. Let's do, let's just do clip 50.

This is from February. We may be heading towards the next World War because we have a president that wants to pal around with Putin and wants to do everything to make him feel good, including lying about who invaded who. I mean, we have plenty of these clips. I mean, this is one of the sweet ironies of this, right? is you've got, there's so many like this. I could play a bunch.

Let's, for example, we have a whole section on our clip sheet that's Libs claiming that Trump was going to start World War III. Let's go ahead and cut 55 from the debate. It is very well known that Donald Trump is weak and wrong on national security and foreign policy. Oh, it's very well known. It's just such a good bit, right? Many people are saying. Many people are saying. That was her version of many people are saying.

She did the thing. It's very well-mode. But you know what? Just to interject a little bit on the vastness of this. You know, if this was Bill Clinton or even George Bush, certainly Barack Obama, the streets of Washington, D.C. today would be lined with people cheering this peace process on. Instead, on my way over here, it's empty, it's silent. There's nothing going on here.

The establishment of the city are mortified that he got it done. because it proves their worthlessness. Well, that's a really good point. And I can tell you, we are in D.C. Obviously, tomorrow would have been Charlie's 32nd birthday. We're in D.C. to, he's going to be awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom posthumously. He deserved it in life. That and many other accolades that you could imagine.

Streets, coins, like, I'm in for, I'm here for all of it. Charlie deserved all of this. He gave his entire being to saving this country. And I just, I'm so honored that the president is rushing back from, One of the most monumental Middle East trips that you could imagine in the history of peace talks in the Middle East to honor Charlie. That's what it's what it means. But yeah, I mean, this is this is a moment where the naysayers and the prognosticators, the elite foreign policy establishment, have all been proven wrong. And it's got to be a bitter pill for them to swallow.

It's just, I mean, I can't wait to see the next editions or if they still exist, a foreign policy magazine and the Atlantic. Do you read that stuff? No, but I'm going to seek them out the next issue round because I want to see the coverage of this. Because in any normal world, it would be front cover, beautiful picture of Trump, the peacemaker, all of that. And you know it's not going to be. You know it's going to be about, you know, they'll try and ignore it.

It'll be about tampon use in Djibouti or something. That'll be the front page of the Atlantic magazine next week. Well, it's interesting. Blake actually called this out for me. But the New York Times is already complaining. Yeah, of course. All right, so let's play some clips here. I want to flag this just because I saw this flip across,

and it just was very revealing about what we've been working with in this conflict. So they're releasing hostages. So to release the Israeli hostages, they also had to release some Palestinian prisoners. Hamas wanted back. And so this is, I don't even know what article it's from, but it says, I did confirm these are real people. Hamas will release Alana Hell, a 24-year-old talented pianist and musician.

Israel will release Nabil Abu Hadir, who murdered his own sister for suspecting she was an Israeli agent. Oh, gosh. Wow. Different cultures. Yeah. Yeah, fair enough.

So here's where you, here's what you know, when you know hell has frozen over. Rahim. This is a actual clip from MSNBC. Play Cut 45. We don't know if it will be the first chapter of a longer story of peace to the Middle East. The president's trying to frame it that way. We simply don't know. It's a terrific day for the hostage families.

It's a terrific day for President Trump. We should make no mistake about this. This is a victory for President Trump. Whoa. Stunning. Stunning is brave, actually. They're taking the L on this one a little bit. They are.

We mentioned the New York Times. We should flag that one. So I'll talk about this one a bit. So the New York Times, they do have the headline that it's happening, but then they have news analysis on their front page. And it's why now the lost chances to reach a hostage deal. and a ceasefire months ago, which I feel is gliding over this quite long, you know, roughly 15-month period where someone else was president and could have conceivably,

who would that be? I don't know. New York Times isn't mentioned it. We don't know who the president. It was an autopen. Right. Autopenn. So they're complaining.

They say, you know, on Gaza, President Trump put few, if any, guardrails on Israel's offensive, bucking international demands for a ceasefire. Then he changed course. It's like, how do you find something to complain about? They're complaining about a thing that Biden had a substantially longer time to achieve, did not achieve, didn't apparently really even come close to achieving. Trump, he put a lot of pressure to get the, you know, the temporary one in place right around the inauguration. In fact, that was while Biden was president, but, you know, Whitkoff was doing all of that mission stuff in the Middle East.

But now, yeah, okay, he went back and forth. He did his deal-making schick. That is how he has done foreign policy all five years he's been in office, and it's gotten a lot of wins. It does fundamentally go to their misunderstanding of the art of the deal, right? It's not just a catchphrase. It's actually a very good book, and it's a great tactic that served him well, not just in office, but throughout his whole life. This whole thing they complain about course change, course change. You're not course changing if you start a negotiation at $100 and you settle somewhere in the middle.

That's how he's done everything over the course of his life. But it's the, they want to see this weird intransigence, you know, where even when things are going terribly, Afghanistan, the withdrawal, all of that under Biden, right, under Autopenn, and they have this intransigence. We're going to keep doing it the same way, no matter how badly it was going, this is the way it's done. This is way foreign policy works. That's like the UN consensus.

This is how they always do it. Every single world issue, they'll just have this inflexible position on something. They'll have a bunch of people with PhDs in peace studies or something fake like that. And they'll say, like, we just, we need to have negotiations, we need to have a ceasefire. But like, they'll just kind of moan about everything. There's no serious effort to broker a deal either way. If you have to hear two-state solution as if that in and of itself is how you get there, you know, just I can't stand that.

It's bureaucratic, it's intransigent, and it's offensive. It's offensive to people who elect these people, who back these people to get things done. And I think the backdrop of what you're seeing on television today, day is a lot of the people a lot of people around the world who are still perhaps a little bit TDS in the way that they think are going to look at that and go I hope my goodness I was wrong all along well you know Trump is a man of action and you talk about this negotiation I think that's a really great way to put it but here's what happens in a negotiation you get new details new information that comes in and so you pivot you adjust and you and Trump is the best of that he's not

dogmatic he looks at what's a fair deal where who has the leverage and let's make a deal based on who has the leverage, right? So the hostages were a point of leverage. There's no doubt about it. But so were, you know, the bombs that were getting dropped on Gaza, right? So each side had something to win by ending this war. And I think Trump saw that and he threaded the needles. He's got this whole 20-point peace plan that is a long-term peace plan.

And that's why bringing immediately all of these other partners from the region and the world. By the way, I was looking at it was like, Macron's trending. Why is he trending? Trump just completely manhandle them if we want to play that clip. it's probably pretty funny and worthwhile, but it's another Trump-McCron handshake. We'll play it for you because it's entertaining. 85. A coat and tie.

It's usually a flack jacket and a helmet. So interesting change. As we see the president there with the French president, McCrone in Charmel Shake, the leaders of some 35 countries, according to the president, gathering there for a peace summit. Now, there is a bro shake. If ever, we won't let go. Okay, you let go. No, I'm going to let go.

All right, there we go. as they assemble for the class photo there. The UAE guy came up, and apparently Trump just pointed him. He's like, they got a lot of money, unlimited money. I just love that Macron and Trump just always, like, every time it's like the handshake drama just plays out. If you saw the wider clip, by the way, the wide shot of that, McCrine's actually steadying himself with his back foot. Trump is just standing still and standing upright, and Macron's like trying to get traction on the ground. I just love it. I just love it.

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Crockett. Number three, Jim Clyburn. Number four, Ilhan Omar. That would be my top one, I'm going to say. Number five, Ayanna Presley. And then Cory Booker in the Senate. That's a good list. Vernon Elliott says he wants Jasmine Crotchitch to be escorted from. Blake, this is a family show. I don't want to see Ilhan Omar ejected from the chamber. I want to see her ejected from the country. Well, that's fine, too. So that's a different thing. If it's on the way, I'm with it. Yeah, we just, one does not preclude the other. Yeah, okay, fine. They're not mutually exclusive. by the way i'm getting emails about your shirt i know your sweater i know and i'm ashamed to say i've no i don't know where i it was some instagram ad oh that's but you know what i'm very excited because i've ordered a lot of turning point swag and i know that there's been so much

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But these are probably some of the smaller ones, things we didn't focus on as much, because we already had pretty good saturation within the D1 schools and the big state schools in the glipa. But somehow, these smaller schools, et cetera. On the high school level, the last number I've gotten, that was Wednesday, so I need an update. But we have added over 1,819 new high school chapters. So we have over, we have more than doubled in a month how many chapters. And people have to understand it's not like a, we make a phone call and you have a chapter. No, you've got to get a sponsor at the school.

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So it's tremendous growth. And by the way, our campus tours, whether that be Glenn Beck, Vivek, Megan, Tucker, whoever, you know, Governor Jim Forte, there's been no, I guess, you know, limit, it seems, to how many people want to be involved in these. And people, Russell Brand in Oklahoma, we're going to have Savannah Crissly. And we're talking, everything's sold out, lines out the door. We can't find big enough arenas. And we have some really fun announcements coming up of some of these new stops. So thank you, Rahim.

I know everybody just seems to be so interested in the growth of Turning Point. And it's all a testament to Charlie's life and legacy and the life he lived and the message that he carried with him and obviously the outpouring of love and support. We know that it's all about what Charlie did and what he showed us and taught us. And so we're blessed. So thank you so much. And I know you went to the memorial too. Yeah, absolutely. 30 seconds if you want to. You know who I think you should have next on one of these tours, by the way. Who's that? The next prime minister of the United Kingdom. That's not a bad idea. Nigel Farage. We should talk about the, the, we should talk about that. Yeah. Yeah. It's a big deal. And listen, I want to talk directly to the audience while I have 10 seconds here.

is we've always complained about things not getting done out there in the country, out there to save America, and these guys aren't doing it to support them. Thanks, man. I really appreciate that. Our team is reminding me and said maybe explain that the proceeds of the Freedom T go directly to keep the Charlie Kirk Show going. That is true. So a lot of people either want to help Turning Point or they want to help the show. They are, you know, different sort of entities. We all work in concert, I think it's fair to say.

But I guess that is a point of clarification that is. is worth making. So, yes, Blake, do you have an email? What I have is a lot of emails asking if we replace the set in Charlie's chair. And the answer is no. Oh. We are at the RAV studio in Washington, D.C., because Charlie is getting the Presidential Medal of Freedom tomorrow. So we'll be here for a few days. But rest assured, the chair is fine. The studio is fine. Nothing has been harmed. Nothing has been harmed. Fair enough. Any other emails, here we go. Let's see here. I just keep getting asked by people where I got my shirt from

and I, you know, it's terrible. We got another list. Yeah, I got a list. We got AOC, Rashida Talib. Oh, Thomas Massey. They're mad at the master. Thomas Massey is number three. That's how it is.

Jasmine Crockett, Ilhan Omar. Yes, I love it. All right. So Rahim, apparently reform is surging. And according to polling, if an election happened today, how many seats you said? It would be if the current poll,

estimates that if it was held today, reform would get 388 seats, which would be a gigantic majority. Wow. I mean, that is the rapid acceleration and adoption of reform within the UK is stunning. I don't know if they're, how far back in, you know, the UK history you would need to go to find something or, you know. It's actually never happened. Wow. Yeah, this is, this is quite new. I mean, you had, you had physiers of the Whig party and things like that. And, and the Labour Party is a relatively new invention for how old the country is. But actually, something like this,

where if people don't know what reform is, you know, people know me for a lot of things. Nowadays, it's Butterworths, right, on the Hill, editor of Breitbart, London, National Post. But one of the things I did in life was I served as Chief of Staff to Nigel Farage for a brief period. And Nigel Farage led the country to leaving the European Union,

and he kind of wanted to retire after that and live his life. And actually, maybe go away and make some money, because he hadn't, you know, he had to give up so much to do the Brexit course. But, you know, every time he was out, they kept pulling him back in. And he now leads this, I mean, you can't even say insurgent party anymore. It is a dominant party now. They dominate the media side.

I mean, tomorrow, he's going to court because an illegal migrant on his way into Britain posted a TikTok saying that he was coming to Britain to pop, pop, pop, pop Nigel Farage and they caught this illegal migrant and he's now on it's getting sentenced tomorrow and Farage is going to the court to face this guy in person and it's going to be extraordinary scenes there but look wow we can be very excited about the fact that the reform party may well win 350 400 seats but they're not quite staffed up enough yet to actually hit the ground running I don't want it to be a situation like the first trump term we're actually getting getting blocked and rolled by a lot of the deep state and the establishment and all of that they have to pack the

house of lords they have to have at least 5,000 people they can deploy across government departments so you know the next election isn't supposed to be until 2029 so we have to be a little bit patient it's a marathon not a sprint but everything is looking better for britain in the long term i asked this of uh dr james org and and i'll ask it of you how do who's phenomenal he's been on the show charlie interviewed him actually you want to know an irony i don't know if it's an irony but it's it's noteworthy, is that Dr. James Orr and Charlie, their interview was the last thing that played on the Charlie Kirkshire before everything changed. But anyways, Dr. James Orr, he's an intellectual leader, I would say, of the Reform

UK movement. I was asking him this question, so I'll ask it to you. What else could possibly trigger an election? Do we have to wait for 2029? That seems like, probably not. Most parliaments recently don't actually run their full term. There are always internal physiers. There wasn't the Tory party.

They had leadership election upon leadership election. People will remember that at one point ahead of lettuce was Prime Minister. Oh no, sorry, that was Liz Truss. But the Labour Party may well eat itself, right? They may well go to internal war. For the parliament to dissolve, they have to pass legislation to dissolve it. And they're the majority in parliament. So it would be sort of like Turkey's voting for Christmas.

But it may get that bad. Now, the only other thing that you could possibly happen is the situation in the country gets terrible enough where the monarch actually instructs the prime minister to dissolve the parliament. It did happen during the Brexit process. The queen basically said, look, you can't govern, you have to go back to the country.

We call it going to the country and asking for their permission to govern in a different way. It could, but will it be Charles doing that? You know, King Charles is not my cup of tea. He really likes Muslims. And look, God bless him, he's not very well, you know. Oh, is it? Yeah, she's got cancer. Yeah. I mean, it's pretty bad. So who knows who's going to be the monarchy in one or two years even?

My goodness. I hadn't, I genuinely hadn't thought of that. Yeah, it's pretty bad. So it would be his son. Yeah, it'll be Prince William. Yeah, Prince William, if that happens. You know, that would, that would, I mean, go ahead, like. I was just saying it's really remarkable, you know, so in that poll that shows reform getting a big majority. It shows the Conservative Party down in sixth place. And that would be the British Conservative Party is the most successful. political party in world history basically they've been running england most of the time for 300 years basically and they basically blew it up because they decided to stake everything on infinite immigration and globalism when their own voters didn't want it yeah and they could

have just stopped it at any time and been fine but like you know what i call it i call it enox revenge enox revenge and if you don't know enoch powell ladies and gentlemen if you don't know enoch pal ladies and If Jesus Christ was the first canceled man, you know, Pell was the second. People are going to learn a lot more about him in the years to come, I think. Our good friends at Angel Studios, I love Angel Studios, amazing, new film this Holy Week, phenomenal. As I think about Charlie's life and how much of a supporter was of Angel, it's hard not to feel so grateful for what he did. He supported us in our darkest days and in our brightest hours as a company. Jeff and I and Charlie were doing lunch together.

We asked him, he said, are you, are you at all worried about one of these college campuses? And he just said, there was so much peace in his eyes and so much peace in his heart. If that's how God takes me, then that's how I'm supposed to go. And I feel like that was a clear message that Charlie's life is a testimony to Jesus Christ, his Lord and Savior. And his relationship with him was the most important thing that he would want the world to remember about his legacy. man are we grateful to have gotten to be a little connection in the multitude of connections that he made throughout his life because it was so impactful to us thank you charlie love you we miss you we're going to continue to drive forward the good news

show podcast on Blaze TV. Check it out there. Liz, welcome to the show. And, you know, it's just great to see it again. It's been a while. Hi, Andrew. Thanks for having me. Man, it's got wrenching that opening, the montage of Charlie. Just hits you every day, doesn't it? I know. I know. Every day. And normally, I mean, right now we're in D.C. and we keep getting a lot of emails about this. And no, we did not change out Charlie's set. We are just in D.C. to honor Charlie. We're going to be at the White House tomorrow where he is going to be awarded posthumously the Presidential Medal of Freedom. President Trump is quickly returning back to the States in order to do that. So we really are grateful to President Trump. So we have not changed the set. We addressed it in our one and we're still

getting we're still getting notes that people think we have. We're at the Real America's Voice studio in D.C. It's a brand new flashy background. I can appreciate that. Liz, so, I mean, we could start there, really. I mean, tell us what this last month and a few days has meant to you, you know, how has it hit you? What are you seeing? I mean, I want to not miss the big E on the eye chart here and let you address that first. Yeah, I appreciate it. And I just want to say that you guys have done such an amazing job honoring Charlie's legacy and carrying forward.

I mean, I think most people with us today understand exactly what you. you have shouldered by appearing every day live on this show and making sure that this show stays on air. And I just want to tell you how much I appreciate it. And I have an idea as someone who also works on air, how difficult it is to go on air every day. So mad respect for you guys. And I'm sure that Charlie would be so proud of you. It has been obviously a gut-wrenching month. I mean, it not only was our friend assassinated for, um, assassinated period, which is gut wrenching, but it's been extremely jarring. I think for people who both knew Charlie and who didn't know Charlie personally, who just knew him because of his presence on college campuses and his

videos that went viral all the time online, it's been very jarring for people to realize. A lot of people are realizing this for the first time that Charlie was the one who was assassinated. fascinated because the left knew his name. But Charlie was the most normal conservative of all of us. I mean, he was so generous and so charitable, so kind, so loving. He spoke firmly, but he spoke the truth in love. He wasn't bombastic. He wasn't extreme. He held all the same views, both political and religious, that we do. And that's the reason that he was brutally murdered. And I think for a lot of people, especially in this era of social media, and this, you know, constant dopamine hit news cycle that we exist in where people get desensitized to grisly stories, even violent stories. It is easy to kind of just read something nasty and move on with your day, see something kind of violent and move on to the next story that interests you. And for the first time, a lot of people realized, wow, this was not something that I can emotionally distance myself from because I can excuse this happening based on the behavior of the victim. We, a lot of people realized this could have been me and would have been me had these leftists who targeted Charlie known my name. And I think that it's why you're seeing the spiritual revival in our country too, because when you are confronted with evil, the way that we all were confronted, we saw this happen before our very eyes.

And when you're confronted with evil, you realize it's not just left versus right, Republican versus Democrat bickering in our country that we are engaged in a spiritual battle of good versus. is evil and when you see that evil um kill your friend you turn towards the question okay if there's evil there must be good and what is good and that leads you of course anybody seeking the truth with a capital t is going to find him is going to find god and it's been a really gut-wrenching month for me and for all of us but it's also been really beautiful to see the good that can come from evil yeah well said and actually Rahim you you and I were talking about that in the because Rahim was actually at the memorial as well. And I mean, you were echoing some of what Liz just said to me.

And again, I'm so close to this that it's healing for me to hear our friends tell me what they're seeing. Do you know what I mean? So, I mean, if you have something to add to what is. Yeah, look, I mean, I ran the Tunnel to Towers 5K in New York last week. I've done it for five years now. But this year I made a point of wearing the Freedom T-shirt and, you know, running through the streets of Manhattan, having people coming up to me, fist bumping and saying kind words about Charlie.

It was just, it was incredible. And I think not just the whole world has learned so much about him since that horrific moment, but I've learned more about him. And I've, you know, you see the clips everywhere now, right, constantly and study them. And one of the things I've learned is trying to, what he did was trying to find that

common ground with somebody as quickly into the conversation as possible. So we agree. He would say that. So we'd drill down and go, so we agree. Even if it was just a smallest shred of agreement. Yes. And I think for the world out there, people get frustrated. We get angry.

We get all sorts of your neighbors and your colleagues, I'm sure, about politics and whatever. But my advice to you would be to mimic Charlie as quickly as you can, even if they don't want to, find a point of agreement. And I think better conversations are had as well. conversations are had as a result absolutely well one of the things uh liz that i wanted to talk with you about is this video that i saw i must have had five different people on our team kind of bring it up and i had been alerted to it actually in the very early days um after charlie was murdered about this armed queers of sLC group i mean i this was something we were watching and blake and i were

in different chats we're seeing different people apparently know about things beforehand And I just want to say, we have a unique position where we're not able to necessarily chime in on every different theory about the case because, you know, I'm a spokesperson for the org. Blake was an eyewitness. I was not there, thankfully. But this is, I think, something that you can speak into here. And you gave, you did a brilliant job with this video, Liz. And you're breaking down the Discord chats and you're breaking down this group armed queers of SLC. So I'm just going to play a couple of these clips. And I'm going to let you. spound on them as we go. But again, I just want to reiterate, just because we're not chiming in, I understand that sometimes leaves a void and other people are filling that void about this case, but rest assured, we're like a duck on the pond, right? We're steady on top, but underneath our legs are moving a mile a minute. So let's go ahead and play this cut, 79 from Liz Wheeler. There was a Discord group chat in which Tyler Robinson admitted guilt for the assassination of

Charlie Kirk and Cash Patel told the United States Congress that there were at least 20 other people in that Discord group chat with Tyler Robinson. That means at least 20 other people in that Discord chat knew in the immediate aftermath at the very least what Tyler Robinson had done. And of course, the question is raised, did they know ahead of time? Did they aid and abet Tyler Robinson? Did he have any accomplices? Liz Wheeler. Yeah. So I appreciate what you're saying. I mean, I think I can say as someone who's not part of the active investigation that when you're part of an active investigation, you are limited in what you're able to say. And I think most of us in the country recognize that, Andrew, and appreciate what you're doing behind the scenes. I'm in a position where I can dig into any of this research.

And we have been doing deep dives into this research because there is, at the very least, circumstantial evidence, evidence that the FBI believes is strong enough that they have opened an investigation. This is public knowledge. It's not just me telling you what my sources told me. This is now public knowledge. The FBI has opened an investigation into whether there were groups or individuals who had four knowledge of Tyler Robinson's plan to assassinate Charlie Kirk. One of these groups is a group called Armed Queers SLC, Armed Queers Salt Lake City. And this group, Armed Queers, I mean, the name describes their goals pretty well, but their goal is to train gay, queer, and transgender people to arm themselves and fight against capitalism and the American system. They are a communist group, a Marxist group, a Leninist group, and this is not me describing their ideology.

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Get their free wealth protection guide now by texting Charlie to 50505. President Trump is fighting for America's future. Now it's your turn to help protect yours. All right, more with Liz Wheeler here. Liz, I'm actually going to play a clip from that same video that you posted about the Arm Queer's SLC. Let's play Cut 80. There is another group in Utah called Armed Queers Salt Lake City. This was reported on by the New York Post.

They are a group of LGBTQIA identifying people and the purpose of this group. And this is a quote, is to train gay, queer, and transgender people to arm themselves and fight against capitalism and the American system. This group in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination scrubbed their online presence. They deleted their Instagram account. And according to the New York Post, the FBI's. investigating whether they had any foreknowledge or any association with Charlie Kirk's assassination. Like, I will never forget in the immediate aftermath and some of our chats, you were showing me screen grabs of people that seemed to have foreign knowledge. And this is

something I cannot get over. There was some really dark ones. I know one of our staff members actually found one. It was on TikTok, I believe. And it was just this person like, oh, man, I don't know if we have it ready to go. They might be able to. send it to me but it was like this girl just like Charlie is going to like learn something tomorrow some very ominous thing that's playing this ominous music and it's just doing this scan past this person's eyes I don't know if it was a man or a woman common problem with this group and they were like and they were just like glanced to the side repeatedly um and they was doing that and it was deleted as soon as the attack happened yeah but we've sent these to

authorities. He hasn't been sent on. Like we've made sure the FBI is aware of this. Yeah. But, you know, I spoke with one of our staffers and, you know, she's told me something did seem up before the event. It just like the vibes you were seen on TikTok, it was just a little bit darker than usual. Yeah. And it just would not be shocking if someone at least had some heads up on this. Yeah.

Well, and there was people that were saying like something's, something big is going to happen tomorrow. So you're going to know it when you see it. I mean, there's some very dark, nasty things that we discovered in this. Liz Wheeler. Yeah, I'm familiar with a post that Blake's talking about. We also pulled these offline. It wasn't just one or two. I believe there were at least six to seven different posts of people that, and it seems

more than a coincidence to me, that we're signaling for knowledge of some kind of violence. Like Charlie doesn't know what's coming. And, you know, there was a song on Spotify called, you know, the assassination of Charlie Kirk on that day on September 10th. That just doesn't seem like a coincidence to me. I'm glad the FBI is taking this seriously and investigating this because

when you deep dive into this group, this armed queers of Salt Lake City, again, the connections between the people running the group and the other groups they're associated with and the crimes that they've been tangentially close to,

it doesn't seem like it's a coincidence. It seems like something that I can't say, oh, it's likely that this happened, but it seems like there's circumstantial evidence that points to the possibility that there were people that were in knowledge of this, especially given what the mission of this group is. Yeah, well, and because here's my, there's a weird connection to the UN, believe it or not,

with this group, and Liz, you'll explain it. But, you know, the questions that, to me, are the most pressing is who knew, who knew what, when, how many people knew it, And what are the future intentions of this group? Because everything I can gather from this is that if there's people in this network that have been radicalized, finance, trained, whatever, that were part of radicalizing this individual, how many else, you know, how many others are there? And are we really safe until these people are brought to justice or, you know, indicted the way they should be? I understand that you've got to sort of measure once, cut twice when it comes to an investigation. But this is stuff that I sit alone at night pondering. Liz, I'm going to play another cut from this video that you published and put out. It was tremendous. Again, so many of our team members are like, please look into this stuff.

I'm like, we are. But let's have Liz be the one that explains it to us for some obvious reasons. Let's go ahead and play cut 81. This is about the ties to the UN, 81. Data Republican published a thread on X saying that this group armed queer Salt Lake City is not only an independent group. This group has actually gotten money and support from the United States government.

From the State Department and from the UN, the leader of Armed Queers, SLC. Her name is Irmaia Fanean, was recognized by a State Department-affiliated NGO called Utah Global Diplomacy as a recipient for the 7 for 17 Award for advancing the UN's 17 sustainability goals. So we are helping finance armed militias of queer people?

Yeah, evidently. And I'd like to make a correction to something that I said in that video, too, the leader of armed queers, SLC, Armae Fanion, I called this individual she. Well, my mistake, Armia Fanion is actually a biological male who transitioned in high school. And, you know, it's funny when I saw the name, Armae Fanion, my reaction to my producer when we first saw this name is like, that sounds like a fake name. It is a fake name. This individual is a biological male who identifies as a female, so it's a he, not a she.

But this man who identifies as transgender, who is the leader of armed queer's SLC, was given money by, it seems shocking to even say it. A U.S. government agency, the State Department, you know, they give money to NGOs. This is the whole Mike Ben's exposing exactly how our tax money goes through the State Department and gets disseminated out to these NGOs that are really. really just radical leftist political activism organizations. And this is another example of it. I mean, Utah Global Diplomacy, this NGO, is giving money to Armae Fanion. And this is the thing, Andrew. If I may dive into a little bit of the connections between Armae Fanion, this group

armed queers, and some of the other violence that we've seen, the left-wing violence that we've seen around the country. This is where I think it gets especially fascinating. If you go back to July in Texas, in Alvarado, Texas, you remember the shooting that happened at the ice facility. Now, this was the first shooting at the first ice facility in Texas, not the Dallas one, the Alvarado one. Now, the individual who was arrested for that crime was a man named Benjamin Song. He's a 32-year-old man, and he's a member of two different organizations. And it's important to understand that these different leftist organizations, while they seem separate, just wait, because I'm going to tie them

all together because they are tied together. He was a member of a group called the Socialist Rifle Association and another group called the John Brown Gun Club. And he's the one who was charged for that shooting. Now, the woman who was charged as his accomplice is also a member of the John Brown Gun Club. And we'll get to that one in a second. But the Socialist Rifle Association is really important because this group has up to 10,000 members across the United States.

They're an openly communist socialist group. Their mission, like armed queers, is to arm themselves to overthrow the ruling class, they call it. They define this culturally, not economically. They want to defend against fascists and Nazis. There have been members of their group who've said any attempt to disarm, quote-unquote, workers must be frustrated by force if necessary. You know, the logo of this group is a trans flag with an assault rifle. Four of, I think, the dozen leaders of this group go by they, them pronouns. This group, Andrew, this is where it's critical.

This group on Reddit years ago, the Socialist Rifle Association, this group lied about Charlie Kirk and like I said, many years ago and said that he called for the lynching of trans people. So the vilification of Charlie Kirk by these radical violent, militant trans groups has been ongoing for some time. Now, this particular group, the Socialist Rifle Association, has been tied to many violent crimes in our nation, crimes that were unfortunately very familiar with. the bombings of the Tesla dealerships, this, of course, before the July 4th ICE attack in Alvarado, Texas. Now, this group, the Socialist Rifle Association, I would describe as a front group for even more violent groups like Antifa. And the funding for these groups, whether it's Antifa, whether it's Armed Queers SLC, whether it's the Socialist Rifle Association, they actually, you can draw the funding back to one source. which we'll get to in a second. So if we're talking about Antifa,

and I know this is a little complicated, but this is how they design it, Andrew. They design it so that it's confusing so that they can obfuscate exactly how they coordinate with each other and where the money comes from and who's in charge. And so that it looks like it is,

their favorite narrative is to claim that they're a decentralized network. They have no leadership. They're a shadow. They're the wind. Well, that's not true if you look at their association. Again, follow along, because I know this is complicated, but this is how they intend it to be.

They want us to be confused, but once you see this, you can't unsee this. So the Socialist Rifle Association has a chapter in St. George, Utah. That is the location where Charlie's alleged assassin, Tyler Robinson, was cohabitating with his, you know, transgender lover, Lance Twigs. When the Socialist Rifle Association chapter in St. George, Utah was asked if Tyler Robinson was a member of their group, they denied it. They said, no, he wasn't. But then, when the Socialist Rifle Association chapter in St. George, Utah, was asked if Lance Twigs, Tyler Robinson's so-called roommate, this transgender lover, was a member, they refused to confirm or deny that based on their policy of confidentiality of members of their group. So, again, that's circumstantial evidence. That doesn't confirm anything.

But it does make you think, okay, why was their response to the question? question about Tyler Robinson being a member different than their response about Lance Twigs. If he wasn't a member and he wasn't dissociated, why didn't they outright deny it the way that they denied Tyler Robinson being a member of that group? If I'm the FBI, I'm looking into that. Now, here's where the Socialist Rifle Association becomes more intertwined with armed queers. Going back to that man, Benjamin Song, who was convicted after the ICE shooting in Alvarado, Texas, He was a member of the Socialist Rifle Association, but also a group called the John Brown Gun Club. The John Brown Gun Club is essentially Antifa, but they have ties, Andrew, two armed queers.

Armed queer Salt Lake City co-hosted. They called it an educational workshop. It's really a militant training weekend with the Elm Fork branch of the John Brown Good Club. That's the same group, the same, the perpetrators behind this July 4th, Alvarado Ice Facility, shooting and the founder of armed queers, this biological man with the made up name or Maya Ph. and I am pretending to be a girl. He appears to have promoted this collaboration between the John Brown Gun Club associated with the Socialist Rifleist Association and Armed Queers on his private Instagram. You cannot, when I say you cannot make this stuff up, it's obviously

more than, it's more than a coincidence. You have these multiple groups, armed queer, social Rifleist Rifle Association, John Brown Gun Club, Antifa members, which really just operate hidden behind these leftist groups so that they can claim they're a decentralized network. You have the social media posts of, what is it, six or seven individuals in Utah in the month leading up to Charlie's assassination that seemed to signal for knowledge. You have these very strange text messages between Lance Twigs and Tyler Robinson, which I know there are some people that claim that they're fabricated. It doesn't seem to me that they're fabricated. by someone on the outside, it seems like a question, if I were the FBI, I would investigate

whether they were fabricated to cover for Lance Twigs, because he seemed to be the one who had potential associations with these radical groups. Yeah, and on that, a lot of people, there's a lot of speculation online. I know that some of these digital evidence that they have looks like it was intentionally, correspondence intentionally sent to cover for Lance Twigs. So I'm aware, we're, we're very aware of that as well. I want to show you something else from Utah. This is the Salt Lake Tribune, put up 99.

This is Salt Lake Tribune. And they, they said this is a cartoonist who's since moved to Portugal because of how, you know, because of Trump or whatever. And it's a guy named Pat Bagley. And he did a drawing here. This is the original. For failure to honor their oaths to protect and defend the constant. Constitution from the dictatorial whims of a malignant clown.

And it's called The Hole in the Head Gang, and it's a wanted poster that includes Mike Lee, looks like John Curtis. I think it's their whole congressional allegation. Yeah, they're whole, yeah, exactly, Burgess Owens, et cetera, et cetera. And there is this very conspicuous red scarfs around each of the characters, which is troubling. You know, this is, this was posted on October 7. So the one-year anniversary of what happened in Israel, but also within a month, less than a month after the assassination of Charlie Kirk in the state of Utah, they published this.

So something, Liz, to me, is awry here. And there seems to be this very malignant vein of violent fetishization at the very least, and obviously outright violence, depending on who's perpetrating it. Hey, everybody. This is Andrew Colvette, executive producer of It's the Charlie Kirk show. Burna is proud to continue supporting Charlie Kirk's mission and the important work of Turning Point USA because empowering Americans to defend their freedoms begins with protecting themselves, their families, and their communities. The Burna, less lethal launcher, looks like a firearm, but it isn't one.

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are choosing Burna for peace of mind. I want to play this clip for you, Liz, and get your reaction. I want to bring you in as well, Rahim. Let's go ahead and play cut 100 from Aaron Burnett at CNN. She's describing Antifa in these radicalization networks, and she's carrying their water. I don't know why, but we can discuss it after 100. And obviously, I'm not going to sit here and defend anybody who considers themselves part of an Antifa movement such that it is, but such that it is is the operative part of that sentence.

Antifa is far from a major sophisticated terror organization like Hezbollah, Hamas, or ISIS. In fact, it's not even like far-right groups like the proud boys and oathkeepers, which have had national leaders, unlike Antifa. There is no organized hierarchy to the group. And according to the Center for Strategic and International Studies, compared to right-wing extremists, Antifa-linked violence is rare and limited. So, Liz, I want you to relate this back to what you were just talking about.

All these disconnected, seemingly disconnected, groups, but they, they aren't disconnected. They're sort of decentralized on purpose. Yes, exactly. And listen, the mainstream media, CNN, Aaron Burnett, they're beyond just stupid at this point. They're propagandists for not just the Democrat Party, but this, I mean, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, um, graphic that you showed that cartoon, it's demonic. That's what it is at this point. So listen, Antifa wants you to think that they are a decentralized network, that there are

grassroots, organic, group of citizens who just want to. raise their voices in opposition to government policies or yada, yada, yada. And the mainstream media is only too happy to parrot exactly what talking points they are given. But this is how Antifa operates. They operate behind the mask of a whole host of radical leftist groups. Many of them have actually quite innocuous names to even hide that they are leftist. But they hide behind these groups, these leftist activist groups that will stage what they called training workshops where Antifa members come and get training or they'll,

Antifa will collaborate with these groups for joint marketing and joint resources, joint transportation and mobilization. They essentially are the parasites intentionally on these leftist groups so that they can get funding and leadership and direction and mobilization without actually ever having to report it so that they can just fade into the shadows when anyone comes to investigate what they're doing. But Andrew, here's the thing. Back to the Armed Queers Group for a second, the founder of Armed Queers, or Maya Fanion, is also an organizer at PSL. That's the Party of Socialism and Liberation. You may recognize

the Party of Socialism and Liberation. It's a communist political party here in the United States because they were the primary organizers behind the violent anti-ice riots that we saw out in Los Angeles just a month or two ago when we were told, again, that that was also organic and grassroots. It was not. It was staged. It was funded. It was organized. There was collaboration. And the Party of Socialism and Liberation, this kind of fringe communist political party isn't just an autonomous unit. It's not just a group of people. It's funded by Neville Roy Singham, this almost billionaire. He's an American citizen. But he lives in China and Communist China because he's a communist. And it's his money, Andrew, that goes through all of these

left-wing groups to fund the violence that we're seeing in the United States, whether it's the anti-ice riots, whether it's the students for justice in Palestine, this pro-Hamas stuff that we see on college campuses, or this radical transviolence that we're seeing. Well, yeah, and it begs the question, why are we allowing this, right? Because we can see the impact that is having on our culture, the violence, this rise of left-wing violence. And by the way, it should not go left unsaid, rather, that the bullet casings found with Tyler Robinson included Antifa slogans. So, you know, just because there may not be black block in the wardrobe here of Tyler Robinson or the trans lover doesn't mean that they aren't influenced and inspired and

radicalized by these same ideas that are floating around. Rahim, I want to bring you in here really quick. What is with this rising, it seems like this tendency, it's like the talking point went out to Democrats. Why are they saying that Antifa doesn't exist now or it's not like a real thing? I thought we were so past this. I mean, we also had Jimmy Kimmel said the same thing. He said, oh, Antifa doesn't exist. On air, it's like he didn't learn his lesson. What's behind this?

You know, the wonderful thing in that Aaron Burnett clip about where she's equivocating is I'm old enough to remember when people were going on CNN claiming that Hezbollah wasn't a terrorist organization. And she uses Hezbollah there as an example of a real terrorist organization. You know, as if all terror factions and groups are the, the same, as if, as if, you know, what we're talking about here, and I take Liz's point, really, about the way they hide behind lots of different groups. But it's kind of like a block chain of radicalization, that's what you're seeing out there, right? And there doesn't need to be central party leader. It's not a political party. You know, it's not a major corporation. This is a group

of deeply disturbed individuals who have grown up being indoctrinated to hate their country, and in most cases to hate themselves and you know to sort of invoke you know charlie's um empathy you know we we hate the sin not the sinner right we are we are almost called to have some level of sympathy towards these people because think about the the families that they grew up in think about the lives they had to grow up in if you are raised in the united states of america in in the years 2000 forward you know yes there's been hard Yes, there's been financial crisis. Yes, we've had 9-11. Yes, we've had terrible wars overseas. But you are living the best life of anybody in the entire world. You are more privileged than anybody in the entire world. You have access to more capital. You have access to more innovation. You have access to all these things. And for these people to want to tear down that system, I mean, Erin Burnett doing what she's doing on CNN right now actually harms those people more. She's driving them underground. She's helping them stay underground. And if she was really truly dedicated, to the cause of normalization instead of radicalization,

then she would call it out for what it is. But CNN has been for so very long, like much of the mainstream media, a key facet in radicalizing these people. Yes, I totally agree. By the way, I'm going to, you know, it's one after the other here, guys. So here's Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of Minnesota,

saying that Antifa doesn't exist, 105. The first person I ever heard use the word Antifa was Donald J. Trump. when he was going on about how there were good people on both sides at Charlottesville. That's the first time I ever heard that he wouldn't use the term. So now it's this amorphous thing. And if nobody's really Antifa, then everybody could be. And the reason you can't find them is because of just that crafty.

No, you are contributing to a strategy of hiding in plain sight. Put it up, put up the B-roll. He did a pose in 2020. he's posing with Antifa, the anti-fascist handbook by, I can't actually say, Mark Bray, who who is a Rutgers professor who just fled to Spain. Attempted. Didn't they stop him? No, he got, he ended up getting through. Hopefully he doesn't come back. Hopefully he's not still on payroll wreckers. We are on that case, like White on Rice. But it's just, it's a despicable thing. It is just calculated line here, where what they do is,

it's exactly, he's fueling it because what they do is they do keep it distributed, they keep it amorphous, which is how the left operates in generally. The left benefits from entropy. They benefit from really widely distributing things. We saw that in 2020, where no one needed to send a central order to do riots after the George Floyd thing. They just kind of all new. And it distributes much more easily throughout their networks. Well, they do have a loose network.

And maybe Liz, this is a good point for you to make. But they do have a loose network of foot soldiers. I'll never forget that Time magazine article about how they, It was by Molly Ball, right, where they talked about after the election, everybody was surprised because the foot soldiers weren't, you know, they weren't dispatched out into the streets to riot. And everybody was surprised. But that's because there are captains in this loose network that either say, go or don't go. Here's the signs. Here's your money.

Show up here or not to show up here. It's loose. It's disconnected. Well, I think it's a little tighter than that, actually, because a lot of it comes out of the unions and the union networks. There is formalized structure here. We've just sort of accepted it. You know, we don't, we don't dig into these people in these places. Well, and there is, I think probably, and Liz, maybe this would be a good point for you,

is there is a difference. And these things do sort of bleed one into the other. And there are gradations of extremism, right, from, you know, starting maybe at the union organizers all on the way down. And there might be some people that are more radicalized and they happen to be in a union. And they happen to be part of these sort of foot soldier networks. Two minutes to you, Liz. Yeah, let me go back to Rahim's point from before, because I think this is actually really critical in understanding why this demonic hatred, this assassination, assassination culture, as Charlie called it, has become so mainstream on the left that this is not a fringe viewpoint that a few people hold.

We've all had friends on Facebook that we thought were just normal, but kind of leftists who were celebrating Charlie's murder. And it's just so, it's so gut-wrenching. But Rahim mentioned that these people who are now these Antifa members have been radicalized, they've been brainwashed, not just. to hate you, but to hate themselves. And in my book, Hide Your Children. I wrote this two years ago. I write about the indoctrination of children that happens in public school from a very low level. And I said, listen, critical race theory and trans ideology pack a one-two punch because

critical race theory comes in and tells these young children to hate themselves based on the color of their skin, black or white. You're either an oppressor or oppressed. You're disgusting. And then trans ideology comes in and says, but we're going to offer you salvation. We're going to offer you redemption. because otherwise you can't be redeemed because it's inherent to your skin color. If you put on the mantle, this identity of transgenderism,

if you become one of the oppressed, the LGBTIQIA, then you can be redeemed from your evil identity. And I got some heat, Andrew, after the Covenant School shooting, for saying, just accurately describing the transgender ideology as not just damaging an anti-biology, but for describing it as a violent, inherently violent, revolutionary ideology that intentionally targets vulnerable youth to turn them into kamikazis for the communist vanguard.

And I hate, it's gut-wrenching for me to even say that's what we've seen happen since I made that warning because that's really what the transgender ideology is all about. It's about targeting these children, telling them that they're horrible. And the only way they can be redeemed is by essentially embracing the devil. And then once they're captured, they're used as human suicide bombers essentially to assault the right. Wow. Well said, Liz. This is Lane Schoenberger, Chief Investment Officer and founding partner of Y. Refi. It has been an honor and a privilege to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to endorse us.

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clip, but it's like the talking point went out about how we're just going to act on the left like Antifa doesn't exist, guys. 106. There's no Antifa. This is an entirely imaginary organization. There is not an Antifa. Like, I don't even know what Antifa is. There is no group. It's not even like far-right groups like the proud boys and oathkeepers compared to right-wing extremists, Antifa-linked violence is rare and limited. It isn't an organization. It is in many ways mythology.

It's not like the proud boys or the oathkeepers, you know, sort of defined terrorist organizations with leadership that leads violence. It's not a highly organized movement. It's a moniker. It's not a unified group like the proud. boys are. Things like Antifa are things that are thought up. It's all in the guise of going after Antifa, which is nothing. There's no organization called Antifa. Nobody's a number of Antifa because it doesn't exist. They are just declaring into existence something that doesn't

exist. There is no Antifa organization, so maybe that's good for social media, but it really is non-existent. They exist on the internet and chat room. and in 4chan and Discord in places like that where they run discussion boards, trade tactics, documents, things like that. But none of them are called Antifa. None of them are called Antifa. A little shout out to Tom Elliott from Grabeon,

who put that montage together. Really powerful seeing it all, all the talking heads that spew this radicalization. And they really are giving a sheen of legitimacy to a network of radicalized individuals that have, like Mark Bray, the professor at Rutgers, are justifying violent activity, violent illiberal activity, preemptive violence. And Mark Bray in his book, the Antifa Handbook, which Keith Ellison is holding, I looked into this.

He actually advocates for fists, knives, guns, heavy weaponry, if necessary, to essentially deconstruct the Western capitalist system. he has completely given up on debate, open dialogue, these sorts of things. That's what the whole handbook is about. It's about violence. And Rutgers University is employing this guy as far as I know right now, today. Even though he fled to Europe, once after Charlie's assassination, this became more of a hot topic. So this guy is such a coward that he advocates for a violent political system.

And then the second he gets called out on it, he's such a coward, existing in the world that he was advocating for. he flees from it because it's a garbage system. It's a garbage idea. Nobody wants to live in that world. So shame on you coward, Mark Bray. You flee to Spain and you stay there. And I hope Rutgers University will do the right thing and permanently fire this garbage human for, you know, for good. Can you just stay in Spain? Good riddance to you. And by the way, there was a whole group on campus that tried to launch a petition against our turning point chapter there completely. lying and defaming them saying we were inciting violence. So New Jersey, Rutgers, I want to know what your explanation is.

I am not going to let go of that story. I'm a dog with a bone. I put a whole thing on X over the weekend. So I'm not going anywhere. It seemed like you wanted to say something. There are several things there that I think require further explanation as well. I mean, a lot of the left really believes, you know, they think they're still fighting the Spanish Civil War, which is probably why he's fled to Spain of all places.

I thought about that, too. He does think, you know, that's where this whole thing comes from. But so many of the groups on the left are Antifa today. They don't have to be called Antifa to be part of Antifa. This thing that we've legitimized and allowed it to happen. It reminds me of the way sort of Thatcher dealt with it. And by the way, it would be Margaret Thatcher's 100th birthday today. So, yeah, I just had to shoehorn that one in.

You have to. There's so much there that we're not unpacking yet, and we've got to do it. I want to wrap this up. I think this has been a really important conversation. because I think it's important that our audience understands how these networks of radicalization. Yeah, Antifa is it's not like it doesn't have a board. It's it's not like a Delaware company. You know, it's it that's not what we're suggesting. It is an ideological movement with with many branches. A lot of them have Twitter handles by the way like Portland or Chicago, New York. You don't always know who's running those Twitter handles or or or who's financing what networks are sending me. money or not sending money, but they are kind of hive mind. And by the way, Liz, this goes back to some of your main points from the top of the hour, that they are a loose connection of networks that might be connected to the John Brown Gun Club or Armed Queers SLC. But they are

all sort of like-minded. Maybe they have different focuses, but they are, this is what's happening. And when you see a graphic like this, it's one that I keep harping on. But I want to throw it up again, it's here in the chat. It's the groups that are most radicalized for violence, Liz. This is a really shocking, guys, if you could find that. It's the 18 to 39-year-olds that are self-described as progressive, Liz. Yes, this is the graph. Look at that one node on the left, that blue node up at 30% of self-described radical, of self-described liberals say that violence is an acceptable form of political intervention, that it can be justified, 30%. And meanwhile, you look at conservatives of that same age group, and they are the most peaceful of any of the cohorts.

Liz, Liz Wheeler, what do you make of that? Yeah, I think the question that we have to ask when we look at that graphic, which is quite shocking to behold, presented visually like that, is why? Why are 18 to 39-year-old men who identify as leftists? Usually they're not the most masculine, examples of men either. So why are these individuals the most violent? And the answer is indoctrination. They're not born inherently violent. So they are being groomed into this violence, into this ideology. And the way that they're being groomed is multifactorial. It's through the public school system. It's not just universities. It starts as early as early as primary school. The public school system, certainly colleges and universities. Obviously, TikTok has

played a large role here. I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for saying this, but there's also a violent subculture of the video gaming world that is, and Tyler Robinson's actually a good example of that, that is desensitized to violence because of the violence of the video games that they're playing. There are also a generation of young men who have been poisoned by big pharma, and that impacts the way that their consciences operate. So they are vulnerable youth ripe for this indoctrination. And they're, of course, military-aged young men. So the people who are organizing this violence know that they're the ones most likely to carry it out. Yeah, it kind of reminds me of what you were saying, Rahim, that, and Blake, I want to hear from you, too, in the last few minutes we have here, but it reminds me what you're saying. You live in this amazing country. Yes, we have problems. Charlie was very honest about those problems. He was calling for an economic moonshot to get the next generation bought in, to have skin in the game of the American dream. All those things are very important, but it doesn't negate the fact that this is still the land of opportunity. You have to seize it. You have to believe that you have the opportunity to engage. And that was really the

message that Charlie was preaching to young men is that you have the initiative, the ability within yourself to take ownership of your own life. And I think there is this propensity to veer in denialism where you just don't feel like you can. And then you end up becoming disengaged with polite society. You become dissident culture, whatever, and you get violent. I, you know, on Columbus Day especially, you know, I remind myself, we actually have an article up about it on the National Pulse of why I'm here. here. You know, what attracted me to America is I've left a country that has this politics of envy at its core. You know, in the United Kingdom, if you earn money and you do well, people

sort of sneer at you, they go, ooh, it's a bit gauche, you know, it's a bit much. Why don't you calm down? In America, if you do very well, people go, dude, that's so cool. Like, how can I help? Like, you know, I want to get involved. I want to do something like that. There's a whole different culture about it. And, you know, I'm not just a commentator in this conversation about extremism. I was a counter-extremism practitioner as my first job out of college. I advised the British government, advised the British Parliament on radical Islamic terrorism and extremism on college campuses. And the hallmarks of what's going on on the left today bear the same hallmarks of how young Islamic men were radicalized in the early 2000s. That's fascinating.

I would love to hear more of that. Blake, do you want to take us home? I'm sorry. We only have 20 seconds left. I know. I'm going to throw out one thing. Some of them are radicalized. But a lot are just bad people.

And you should be wary of like there are a lot of people who are malevolent, resentful, acquisitive. entitled, very negative energy, and they like the left because it gives them an excuse to vent all of their bile. It justifies their body. We'll be back tomorrow from a new location. And tune in. Charlie's getting the Medal of Freedom. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliecirk.com.