The Charlie Kirk Show - The Psy-Op to Delegitimize America

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

The left is getting children and even kindergartners to join nationwide "walkouts" to protest ICE. Meanwhile, at the Grammys, stars denounce America as a nation of "stolen land," and the mayor of Boston says the entire planet has the right to move to America. Everything about this works in concert: It's a bid to use highly emotional images and rhetoric to delegitimize America. The show team unpacks the agenda, then talks to Rich Baris about an unfortunate special election down in Texas.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Is that a thing? Do we say happy Monday? People don't know. I mean, I'm happy to be here. I really am. I had a great weekend, but I'm ready to be back. It's an acceptable Monday. It's an acceptable Monday.

Dan Bongino's back. He is. I saw his show this morning. I was trying to tune in while we're doing show prep. Just to see if he was going to be throwing some jabs and some elbows. I thought it was fairly. contained. He was going over his first year, or his only year, at the FBI. I thought it was good. Check it out. Our friend, Dan, Dan's been a good friend for a long time, good friend with Charlie.

Actually, you know, he gave a shout out to Charlie. I don't usually do this, but I appreciated it. And I actually saw this part and it meant a lot, 281. I can't do this show today without a couple of remembrances as well of folks we lost. Obviously, Charlie being first. Charlie was a great friend of mine. We used to discuss everything, you know, the movement, the audience shows. You see this picture of me and him and Charlie, I miss them like you all did. That was my guy there.

And he's a good man. I miss that hair. We love you, Charlie. Charlie was the bridge, man. It was. Charlie knew everybody. And Charlie made everybody feel like a friend. Sorry.

Thanks, brother. That was a kind moment. A lot of people sent me that clip this morning. so I know a lot of you were watching it. So good for Dan. Glad to have them back. It's great to have another sane voice out there in the media ecosystem. Check it out.

So two hours before this show. But anyway, this weekend was a huge, huge anti-ice demonstration weekend. Well, I feel like that's every weekend. That's wild. But they did it all over the country. And there was a bunch we got to go over because the propaganda is ratcheted up to 10 out of 10. It's Minneapolis, Portland, Los Angeles, New York City, San Francisco. We're about to have the Super Bowl in San Francisco.

Austin, Texas, Boston, Massachusetts, Chicago, Illinois, Washington, D.C., Tucson, Arizona. Good old Tucson had to get into the mix. There was some, I think there was a march in Old Town Scottsdale as well. It was small, but, you know, there was people there. And it's just, I mean, we've got student walkouts on Friday, all these high schools, middle schools. This is when you know it's getting really disgusting, is when the libs, involve your children. They're propagandizing your children to get them to hate the country, hate law enforcement,

call them Nazis, Gestapo. But that's what they do. And Blake, I know you've been doing research on this because, and it just has to be said. That they want, this is the communist playbook. They try and get in the middle of a parental relationship with their kids, indoctrinate them. And especially in this country, when you got all these LGBTQ whatever's going around, They don't procreate, so they're going to groom your children to do their dirty work.

So there's the Catholic religious order of the Jesuits, who used to be great, they're very not great now. We don't need to get into all of that. But they used to run a lot of schools. And there was a saying they would say, like, give me the child to the age of seven, and I will give you the man. And the idea was the education you get when you're at your youngest shapes how you are for the rest of your life. Those are the assumptions you carry with you, the moral beliefs that are the hardest to pull out, basically. By the way, this has been proven sociologically. Yes, 100%.

A child's personality is essentially formed at age seven. And think how kind of messed up it is that this is not a thing that historically ever happened before, that once your child is about five years old these days, we keep moving kindergarten earlier and earlier, you're five or six years old, they're in school, they're probably around these teachers longer than they're with you every single day, and then they're with their peers most of the rest of the time. And a lot of these people are devout, sincere, insane, left-wing true believers, and they'll want to recruit your child for political causes,

and they'll have some excuse for why that's okay to do in a public school. And they're very aware that if you can get a child to believe, oh, like, ICE is evil when they're in second grade, it's going to be very hard to ever pull that moral assumption out. And yeah, it's a classic communist playbook. There was a child, Pavlik Morizov, and he was a boy who was murdered by his dad, and what the Soviet authority said is he'd been killed because he denounced his father to the Soviet authorities. Or I believe he denounced his father and then family members killed him.

What the story was. It was not the full story. But basically, the Soviets made a kind of political cult around the idea of children denouncing their parents for having the wrong beliefs. And we're going to get the same thing here. If you're a parent who supports ICE, who supports having a border, who supports deportations, and your child's in public schools, you have to be aware that there are teachers in these schools, counselors in these schools, officials in these schools who are basically telling your kids every day that your parents are bad. Your parents are evil. Well, it makes me think of, and by the way, you're seeing a graphic there, that video, if you want to put that back up. that is a montage or sort of like a compilation of elementary school students doing anti-ice walkouts.

Elementary students. So we're talking between the ages of 5 and 11 or 12 because that's where sixth grade cutoff. This is truly disgusting stuff that they're involving your kids in their propaganda and their lies. And you've got to think what they did with the trans stuff, right, where they create these sanctuary cities, these sanctuary states. for trans, they can rip your children away from you if you do not support their gender identity. Are we at the precipice of getting the same type of policies in blue jurisdictions where they can take your kids away if you support ICE? You've got to ask the question. But let's just go through some of these clips here. 246. These are high school students doing a walkout. They're saying,

you know, we're Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks. We're for the Mexicans. Go ahead. You always feel like Mark the Luther King and Rosa Parks Free me free my corn man No, I can't go down the path of the corn god And this is a Seattle middle school teacher She starts crying And she thinks, oh, these young kids, they get it 2.32

They just left, but I don't know why it's making me so emotional Yeah, middle school kids Middle school kids They know that That everything that's going on in this administration it's not okay and I will never understand

why anyone thinks that it's okay no I guess I don't know off the top I don't know just off that if that's a public school or not but it strikes me as inappropriate for a teacher to make political videos in a public school

at their workplace social media is rodent and it's yeah they'll never be held accountable in a city like Seattle but I I feel I mean I grew up in a Catholic school, so even an ideological one. And generally, I think it would have raised a lot of eyebrows if teachers were super political on any point.

I think I knew one of my teachers was a Democrat, and that's about all she said about that issue. And yeah, I mean, outrageous stuff. There's so many of these. It's a break down of norms. Liberal lady cries performative tears of joy. Go ahead. 234. There's so many kids protesting right here by the gas station.

I'm so proud of them. They're all chanting and the police are there and they're so, like, they're all holding their signs. They're so brave. I rolled down my window and honked. Oh, my God. They're so brave. Nothing says bravery, like doing what every single adult in your area is doing.

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That is Andrew and Todd.com. All right. So I've got to get to this image. It went viral over the weekend. And it is an image of a seven-year-old in Portland, Oregon. this I mean this little girl looks like just some normal kid off the street not off the street but like you would see them at your school at the park at the movies whatever at a kid's birthday party and she's been pepper sprayed or tear gassed it's unclear by law enforcement that's trying to do crowd control let's play this clip she's it's very sad to see it it's terrible to see it 282 She says it's burning. Notice that there is a woman wearing a gas mask, gas mask, you know, rinsing out her eyes.

So the parents take her to an anti-ice protest demonstration that gets unruly. It gets violent. It gets chaotic. Law enforcement tries to do crowd control near a federal building, by the way. Which is, it's so evil. It's evil. It's super calculated because they know what they're doing. they know that, okay, we go to this, we bring children, we get rowdy, thus compelling law enforcement to do crowd control stuff, and then they can go and say, look at these police attacking children.

And it's 100% a calculated playbook to undermine law enforcement, to undermine the law itself. And the same way, you know, we made that, I love to make that comparison to, frankly, the way Hamas operates. Because they do that too. They encourage children to go out and do things that they know will put them in harm's way because they know it will be politically useful if one of them gets killed by something. Bingo. This is these are terrorist tactics. So when we call this like low level seditious, that's what it is. This is an organized movement that loves casualties.

So they engineer situations that will create casualties that will create images that evoke emotions that evoke sympathy. And then they weaponize those to degrade and destroy the country. Using children as human shields. They are using children as human shields. But I have so many thoughts. It's like, first of all, don't bring your kids to a potential riot scene. That's child abuse. You should have that child probably taken away from you, parents.

Seriously, it's absolutely disgusting parenting. And to Blake's point, they want these images. They want to weaponize reckless parents that are stupid enough to do this, kamikaze caring moms, taking their kids there, thinking that they're going to show them. and the civil rights movement they get to be Rosa Parks and MLK no you are a disgusting shameful

person do not bring your kid to a potential riot scene like in Portland of all places have you not seen the videos of Antifa in Portland there are not moderate safe kind of you know and also we know from their arrest records

like what like 35% of these people apparently have a prior sex conviction of some kind of course they're all creeps they're all like sexual deviants They are all radical communist, godless people that don't care if your child gets hurt. What they want is they want your child to get hurt so they can use that image on social media, on blue sky, on discord. And they want to sow discord. That's the whole point.

And so the most important thing is to just recognize that this is an operation, an op being run on you to recognize it and not fall for it. And there's actually a great historical example because we're in Black History Months. So people have been on X and stuff. They've been talking about Rosa Parks. And you know the story with Rosa Parks, right? Yep. Yes, I do. I know the real story.

Yeah, exactly, the real story. And so the interesting thing, everyone in school and such got the story where, you know, she was just tired. She was on the bus and she just said no, wouldn't get off the bus. And that's not really what it was. She was actually a trained activist. And the situation was engineered to create a sympathetic story to bring down segregation. Now, in the case of that, segregation was evil.

It entirely made sense for them to do that. But the point is, they were aware of the power of images, the power of stories. And that can be used for good or it can be used for ill. So an example of good is that's why we want to talk about those innocent people who are killed by illegal immigrants. Those stories need to be shared because that is how you further the cause of deporting illegal immigrants who don't belong in this country. There is a in politics, narratives matter and images matter, and you have to be aware of both the image you can. create when you do something. And you need to be aware of the images the enemy is trying to create, especially if they're trying to do something monumentally evil, which they are here. They're using

children as human shields to let us remind everyone engineer the abolition of America. Because if we don't have a border, we don't have a country. There's another story involving a child. And we saw this image out of Minneapolis where the ice agents came up and Liam Conejo, a five-year-old. was basically the ice came up on his father. His father abandoned the child, just fled, left the five-year-old. So, of course, the ICE agent stood by the child to make sure the child was okay. We should have an image of this five-year-old. So then what happened?

The Texas federal judge Fred Bieri, a Clinton appointee, ordered the release of the five-year-old Liam Canejo and his father from ICE detention in Texas. So then this whole back and forth, so you can see the court ruling there, Judge Berry's LinkedIn page shows him liking a post about the protests of President Trump's policies. So this judge is actively on social media liking protest posts while releasing this father that abandoned this five-year-old kid. This poor five-year-old kid, he's innocent. He's done nothing wrong. He's just a kid. But his dad abandoned him. And so that goes back and forth. It creates this whole social media back and forth of, you know, well, sorry to say this kid's already. been released and this judge is right and, you know, many of these, so the left thinks that this

guy was legal, that he came in legally. And J.D. Vance just did a massive fact check on this, because basically what happened during the Biden-Harris administration is they created the CBP-1 app. And what this meant is that you could ignore all of our laws, sign up on the CBP-1 app, and get straight into the country. It didn't matter. Joe Biden just ignored immigration laws. So now these people are claiming that this guy, this father, is here legally. Well, he's not. And the Trump administration is setting it right. More kids getting caught up in the chaos created by Democrats.

We're going to talk about the Grammys here really quick while we get, why we went for Rich to join us, Rich Barris. The Grammys were this week. You probably didn't hear about the Grammys. I'm so old that not only do I not care about the Grammys, but I mostly haven't heard of the acts being awarded at the Grammys. I am seriously. I have the problem that all the bands I like. are now 75-year-old fogies. So here's the deal, though.

The Grammys used to be a pretty important cultural moment. They used to be. Oh, come on, Blake. They did. Blake always wants to discount it. If you say so, Andrew. They did. It was like, listen, we used to have a culture that everybody participated in the music industry.

What's that? Are you sure that's not just because you worked in the music industry? I didn't really work in the music industry. No, I didn't. But no, I just remember as a kid. You know, it was like a, it was an appointment viewing. and it wasn't really a point of view, but the Grammys just basically became unwatchable.

They fell off a cliff. The most trashy people on the planet basically get together in Los Angeles and celebrate themselves and back pat and all the stuff. But there was so many moments that came out. It's like if you think the Oscars are terrible, try watching the Grammys. I dare you.

You will probably throw up in your own mouth. I'm going to give you a smattering of some of the clips that have become viral moments. Boni Vair, Bon Iver, as a lot of people like to call him, BoniVare says he is wearing a whistle at the Grammys to honor the observers, the legal observers that are actually illegal, that are obstructing ice agents, in Minneapolis, 2.37. I want to ask about the whistle, obviously, it's very prominent.

What does it stand for? It's to honor the observers in Minneapolis. They blow the whistles when they see ice come in, and they're there to protect their community, and they've been doing it for weeks and 30 below. I think the real work is in the streets of Minneapolis right now, and I'm here to honor them as well. That fakery.

Oh, what does that whistle represent? You know what the whistle represents. Protecting their communities. Who are they protecting their communities from, by the way? Oh, that's right. Child predators and child sex traffickers, child rapists. But it's murderers. Jug traffickers.

I'm so sick of this crap. I just can't get over the amount of lies. them, but them supporting, like, oh, anti-ice stuff, that's almost predictable, but there's like a darker subcurrent to this. And I think this clip actually gets at the best of it. This is Billy Eilish when she was accepted. I don't know if I even said that right. Yeah, I think he's accepting her award, $2.92. No one is illegal on stolen land.

It sounds like you know the producers where like find a white woman in the crowd just nodding along with a lemming. That's not just, oh, I don't like ice. That is straight up. America is an illegitimate country. Stolen land. This is why. They only do this. They only do this with basically the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Israel.

It's like the four major Anglo countries in Israel where they just say, stolen land, your country is illegitimate. The end result of this is not, I have to be nice at the Grammys. The end result of this is you will be dispossessed of your country because the line is you don't have the right for your country to exist. And this is why every single communist front group always has the anti-colonialist language in it. every single one they all pair it the same garbage the same absolute garbage and this is another

this another one shiboozy yeah shibuzi it's a real really a real thing yeah country artist by the way black dude who had a big breakout hit i think it was last summer you know i'll get right on listening to that um it was actually catchy catchy catchy something i have to be you say so yeah it is um although i'm assuming caboose is uh very very upset with me right now yeah he's he's He just let me know. He's correct. I am correct. 239. This is Shibuzi. What a stupid name. Immigrants built this country. Let's talk about that on the other side. 2.39.

Immigrants built this country, literally. Actually, so this is for them. For all children of immigrants, this is also for those who came to this country in search a better opportunity to be a part of a nation that promised freedom for all the equal opportunity to everyone willing to work for it. Thank you for bringing your culture, your music, your stories, and your traditions here. You give America color. I love y'all so much. Oh, shut up.

What is his hat? He looks like he's in the Ottoman army or something. Shut up, Shabuzi. Literally. Like, first of all, this is a nation founded by settlers. This is not a nation of immigrants, okay? We have immigrants when they suit our purposes, when we think it's a good idea to let them in. illegals border jumpers are not immigrants repeat with me one more time border jumpers and illegal immigrants are not

immigrants they are illegals we had settlers they came to a raw and open land yeah there were native americans that's true but they came to an unsettled undeveloped america north they did not so the people who built america did not immigrate into a pre-existent country. They built an entire civilization from scratch. Yep. And guess what? And it was amazing and so everyone wanted to come join it. Yes. Absolutely.

And that line at the end, they give it color. Okay. Is that an attack on white people? Shabuzi? All the people that buy your records that play your songs? It's just I, we're going to keep going here, but I have so many thoughts. We haven't done the No, hold on the best bunny yet. What's that?

Yeah, well, that's where we're going. What's the bad bunny clip? I need the bad bunny clip, guys. We have it. It is 238. Before I say, thanks to God, I'm going to say, eyes out. We're not savage. We're not animals.

We're not aliens. We are humans and we are Americans. All right. So, okay, this is the same guy who said that you have four months to learn Spanish, that he refused to speak English. He won't do a tour in America because he's protesting ice. And then he goes to the Grammys. So the only place that this Puerto Rican will speak English is in front of a bunch of communists in Hollywood at the Grammys.

So, oh, okay. So you'll lower yourself to use the English language to go speak to a bunch of communists in Hollywood. At least let's just say radical progressives. He didn't make them learn Spanish. No, why didn't you make the Libs learn Spanish? Bad Bunny. I thought you wouldn't lower yourself to speak English in front of people. Hmm. Very, very fascinating point. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y Reefi.

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You know, before we get off this, so we hit the Grammys, but the important thing is this is not just celebrities. It is a manifestation of an ideology that goes into the political realm. And so this clip also got attention over the weekend, and I really want to flag it. This is Boston's Mayor Wu. And she was commenting to the press And she said this. Let's show 242. Every person, every human being

has the legal right to come to the United States and seek asylum or shelter. And so is that not the clearest encapsulation of you might as well call it the Democrat platform of 2026? Every person in the world has the legal right to come to America.

And the answer is no, you don't have legal right to come to America. That's not what our law says. It doesn't say you can come here and live here some indefinite duration of time until we adjudicate your asylum claim. That's a total invention of the last few years. But it is what they believe. And all I would say, if that is some sort of concept that approves to you, if you have a home and everyone in the world has the legal right to enter your home whenever they want, do you own a home? No. No, you don't because everyone in the world has access to it. The entire idea of having a country or having a home

is that there is some principle of limited access to it. Well, and by the way, all of their ideas, they like to sit here and say, oh, America, we have all this money, all this wealth, and we're sort of obligated morally to just give it away to whoever wants to come knocking at the door. Every single idea that they put forward would ruin your home. Every single idea that they put forward

removes the sovereignty of we the people over our own homeland. every single idea they have would sow destruction and chaos and disorder and put your family's lives at risk they they are they're essentially at advocating for the complete abolition of the rule of law we are a rules-based country we have to be the rules keep things in order they keep people in check they protect innocent lives and when you want to just throw it all out you want to invite all the you know sharia people from syria to come over see how that works out for you There is a reason that murder rates are down 20%. There is a reason there has not been one single organized Islamic terrorist operations at least successful in this country.

Because guess what? We're enforcing the rule of law again. And we're seeing the results. There's a reason we have Moses in the House of Representatives. He's the great lawgiver. Without law, you don't have a society. Yes. Remember, Jesus didn't come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it.

The Bible loves laws, actually. So, yeah, this isn't, obviously if you're in this audience, you know how insane these people sound. But you got to realize that to Blake's point, this is part of a larger ideology that is basically wants to destroy the rule of law. They hate laws unless it's attacking white people or rich people or business owners. Just look at Mom Donnie in New York City. So like if you're a white property owner, he's going to tax. He's going to seize the means of production. So those laws they're going to institute.

It's called anarcho-tirony, where you apply laws against some while allowing tyranny and anarchy amongst the others. The preferred class gets zero oversight. Here's Rep. Pramilat Jaya Paul from the Progressive Caucus. Yeah, they actually need a caucus that's progressive, because as if the whole Democrat Party wasn't progressive enough. kind of insinuating, kind of saying the quiet part out loud here, 248. I hear you calling for dismantling, abolishing whatever verb you want to use. Presumably that's not going to happen in the next couple of weeks as these negotiations are going on.

Republicans are not going to agree to that, and they still hold the majority in both houses. What are the specific reforms that you can demand, that you are demanding? What are the red lines now as a condition of passing these funding? bills. Yeah, I think this is a really important question. You're right. We can't, we can't completely do what we want to do without the majorities. But what we can do is insist that ICE and CBP get out of Minnesota and our cities across the country where they are terrorizing people. Okay, she goes on 249. And I'll make the point on the backside of this. 249. We can take enforcement. We can ramp it down We can put a lot less money into this kind of cruelty, and we can actually hold people accountable for what they are doing.

We do not need a military force enforcing immigration law. But I do think that we are at a place where finally we can demand in a unified way real reforms and completely dismantle ICE and CBP and DHS. I'm not sure that DHS really needs to exist. So there she said it. She wants to dismantle. And you see the little word swap? And by the way, which it's hilarious about this is that they did, you know, the MS Now reporter knew. And she said, well, you're not saying defund, but you're saying dismantle.

So now they're going to say dismantle because defund is polling poorly. And speaking of polling, we got, we got Rich Barris here. We'll bring him in for just a second here because we've only got five minutes left. Rich, welcome. I know you're having technical difficulties over there. Welcome back to the show, my friend. Thanks for having me, as always. Wacked out by the storm, Andrew.

Oh, it's all right. It's all right, brother. So this whole, we got ice walkouts everywhere. We've got, we've got, you know, Democrats calling to dismantle instead of defund ice and DHS. The polling, Rich, is it worse? Is there, is there, is there tantrums working? How, how are we looking? Well, look, you can always count on Democrats to overstep, Andrew.

You can't. Because the truth is, and we talked about this, what, last week or two weeks ago, about how, you know, ice, the sentiment surrounding ice in America have been changing. The left's tactics were working. But Americans, this is where they messed up. Americans still support deportations. They still support the programs that they, that Donald Trump backed that he ran on and that he was elected to carry out. So they, I think this mistook, you know, wanting some modest change. and we talked about them, a couple of them, the masks, right, getting operational control over areas.

And there were modest changes that could have been implemented. Americans are not going to be okay with completely dismantling ICE and no longer being able to deport. That's just, that's an overstep. And even if we did see a little shift in the polling, that is very temporary. And once Americans go back to understanding that they're actually attacking their ability to have a sovereign country, it will end poorly for them. So, you know, again, we have these debates in the country. One side gets an advantage and then they overstep, Andrew.

It happens all the time. That's what the left good here. That makes a lot of sense. So, Rich, I got two questions here and I've got to move quick because we only got three minutes left. I want to ask about Insurrection Act. And then I want to ask about the special election in Texas because I think too much has been made of it. But the Insurrection Act, in your opinion, if Trump would have called the insurrection Act immediately in Minneapolis, squashed it quick, just dealt with it. Do you think we would

see better polling, better press, better optics, or do you think that the way this has played out has been necessary in some way? I actually think this is where I probably disagree with a lot of people here. I think that people are looking for fast and decisive action. They let it stew for too long. And they, you know, this is actually dates back to longer than Minneapolis. I mean, before the new year, going into the holiday season, last year. We were starting to see the left. They had complete control over the narrative. We weren't answering anything. We just gave them the ability to discuss this issue and talk about it how they wanted. And it started to raise questions in people's minds, like, what crimes are you being

deported for? We need a little bit more. We need our parameters to be affirmed up here, so we understand what's going on. But again, this is where you're going to be an age divide, and I know we're running low on time. I just want to say, I think you would have saw some of the older part of the coalition, maybe not like it, think it was too much, but it's the young part of the coalition that has to be fired up right now. And they want decisive action. They don't even care if he goes full Franco, Andrew. They need him to move and make decisions. Yeah, I tend to agree with you, Rich. I mean, I know people don't want to see armed, you know, military in the streets, but they also don't want to see chaos. They don't want to see, like, Libs getting away with it

either. We can all clearly see that this is an op. All right, let's go really quickly to Senate, Texas State Senate 9 runoff. Dem wins this. And this is typically a Republican held seat. Is it a big deal? I tend to not think so. It's probably not promising, but I think it's kind of a nothing burger. What's your thoughts here?

Yeah, I've got to disagree on that. And it's like it's not one thing out of, you know, it's not a one off. This is a string of underperformances by Republicans being driven. Again, it's going back to the last question. We have a huge part of the Republican coalition that just does not want to vote. They're not interested. They're definitely disaffected. And Taryn County is a loss because this is the largest red county in the country.

And it was one that had been shifting a little Democratic before, you know, when Biden won. And then it swung back hard. Republicans do have an infrastructure there. They, there's, you know, there's the, their ballot chasing ops there. There's precinct activity. I get it, Rich. but like the turnout was 94,000. And in 2024, it was 400,000 and 33. But Andrew, why didn't they turn out? Well, I just don't think anybody was paying attention,

which is a huge problem. I totally get that. And I think that's the problem. Rich, I got to go. But we're going to continue this conversation next time with the great rich bears. Thank you, brother. We'll talk to you soon. All the best, brother. Thanks. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliecirk.com.