The Charlie Kirk Show - The Trans Death Cult And The Threat to the Supreme Court

Episode Date: July 15, 2026

The Supreme Court is petitioning or more security after a wave of threats. The show plays the tape and analyzes this particularly dangerous vulnerability the violent left can exploit. Andy Ngo discusses his new book about the Zizian "trans death cult" and the threats he's getting for it. Rich Baris analyzes the current state of the midterms and in particular the most important Senate races. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I heard you had a great show yesterday, Blake. Thanks for holding it down for us. Back here in D.C. at the Real America's Voice Studio in D.C. So thank you to the RAV team for supporting the last couple of travel days and backs and forth. And so grateful to them. They do a great job, and they're great partners here. I want to talk about this clip, Blake, that's going viral. and I want to make sure we address it dispassionately.

You can have critiques about this clip, certainly, and we do, but I think some of them have been a little disingenuous. They're going to get into it. But this is, of course, we're talking about ACB, Amy Coney-B, Amy Coney-B. She is one of the Supreme Court justice. She was testifying, and made a comment that has now has a lot of people on the Internet

saying she should step down, and we're going to have a back-and-forth about this. And I couldn't help but think of that 1991 clip of Clarence Thomas, who was so defiant. And we're going to play both clips side by side and discuss it right now. Let's play the clip and discuss it on the other side. Andrew, we should just, just to set this up, they're testifying before Congress because they're seeking a $230 million per year security budget. So you divide that by each justice. That's what, like, I'm trying to think of how many millions that is per person.

and I'm flopping on the spot. That's like, what, 30 million per justice? It's a lot. Let's go ahead and play the clip, SOT 9. So I thought I would just share a little bit about how the threats have affected me and my family personally. They have required me to, my children, to think about and see things that children should not have to see. A few years ago around the time of the Dobbs League, my security detail sent me home with a bulletproof vest. My 12-year-old son was standing in the doorway of my bedroom, and he wanted to know what it was.

and why I had it, and I didn't know how to respond. But I didn't expect that performing this service was going to put me in the position of explaining to my children what a bulletproof vest was and why I had to wear one. Roughly six weeks ago, I was the victim of a swatting incident. Many of us, me included, have received threatening anonymous deliveries designed to intimidate and harass us. Federal judges across the country, including the Supreme Court, continue to do their jobs without fear or favor, but the threat level is really high.

All right. So it's an important point to make any sorts of political threats, violence, completely unacceptable. Obviously, my heart goes out to her and her family for having to deal with this stuff. But it's really important to remember that she was confirmed after Kavanaugh, right? You had Chuck Schumer, you know, essentially threatening Kavanaugh from the steps. of the Supreme Court during that confirmation process that was very, very tumultuous, very tense. She knew what the job description was. So I understand that it wasn't, and it shouldn't be this way.

I genuinely understand that. But she knew what the job description was. Remember, Kavanaugh, she would have watched this, she would have known this, had someone show up to his house and try and kill him, right? she saw that happen and she knew that the job description was going to be intense this does strike me as naive this does strike me as not understanding the assignment this does strike me is not understanding what the country is up against and so i understand why people are frustrated about this clip you and i'm not alleging that she didn't vote the way that we wanted to her to on birthright citizenship

because she didn't rule the way that we wanted her to rather because she was scared but certainly that's the connection everybody's making, Blake. It is, but I think it's worth stepping up. People, they want to seize on an excuse to bash ACB. There's a chart going around. Maybe you guys can throw it up where people are claiming she's mildly less conservative overall in her voting record, since the Dobbs ruling and the backlash to that, that it maybe has put fear into them. And it's possible that that's the case.

But instead of complaining about Connie Barrett, we have to really confront an important fact here, which is the Supreme Court is a equal branch of government. It's an incredibly important one. It's one of the most important vehicles we have for getting conservative victories in this country. And it's incredibly vulnerable. It's by far the most vulnerable branch of government that Supreme Court justices serve for life. And if that seat is vacated for any reason, the sitting U.S. President with the advice and consent of the Senate picks their replacement. And so when that Dobbs ruling came down, when there was that nutball who wanted to try to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh, that justice there, or whoever it was, was it Kavanaugh they were going after? I believe it was, yes. And if they had succeeded, it would have been

President Biden able to pick that potential replacement. If any, and these Supreme Court justice, they have homes. We don't publicize their address, but they're not impossible to find out. They have a relatively normal life. They have extended family members. There are so many ways that one unhinged lunatic could so easily completely shake up this country with one violent action and someone could politically exploit that. It's one of the biggest vulnerabilities we have. And rather than just complaining about what ACV said, I think we need to, we need to ask ourselves, what kind of country are we in? Like, do we basically need our Supreme Court justices to all have secret service level protection?

And I think that might be a reasonable thing to say. Yeah, well, I mean, the attacks and the threats against them, credible threats, have gone up nearly 40% in the last year. So I'm actually, I'm sort of see this both ways. If it's going to take a detail, a permanent detail for the Secret Service in order to feel safe and secure to make their decisions, the way that the law dictates as opposed to maybe fear of, you know, catching yourself on the wrong side of Antifa, then sure, I'm fine with it. But I do think that it's important to sort of compare and contrast, right? This is Clarence Thomas, who, in my opinion, is the greatest living Supreme Court Justice, October 1991, during his confirmation hearing, and just listen to the tone difference.

SOT 17. If they're going to kill me, they're going to kill me. So you'd still like to serve on the Supreme Court? I'd rather die than withdraw from the process. Not for the purpose of serving on the Supreme Court, but for the purpose of not being driven out of this process. I would not be scared. I don't like bullies. I've never run from bullies.

I never cry uncle, and I'm not going to cry uncle today, whether I want to be on the Supreme Court or not. I would rather die than withdraw. MVP. You can tell why he was Charlie's favorite justice, why he's almost everyone's favorite justice these days along him and Alito. He's a, he's a very courageous man, utterly fearless, and that's the kind of person we need on the Supreme Court these days. Yeah, and exactly right. And I think that's yet another reason why ACB just does not feel like she's lived up to the hopes and expectations that many of us had for her, and certainly the birthright citizenship ruling

still hurts, but I think people are, I think two things can be true at once. Give them the detail. We don't want these people to be killed. We don't want these, you know, threats on their lives to be successful. But also, man, wish we could have eight more justices just like Clarence Thomas on the court. All right, I'm so excited to share with you guys, C-15 from Fatty 15, the first emerging essential fatty acid to be discovered in more than 90 years. It's an incredible scientific breakthrough to support our long-term health and wellness, and you guessed it, healthy aging. Faddy 15 co-founder Dr. Stephanie Van Watson discovered the benefits of C-15

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there is a larger threat looming on the nation. And that is the, well, I guess it's somewhat of a paper tiger in the sense that it's going to be optional. But that is daylight savings time. It has just cleared the house to make it so we don't have to switch our clock. back and forth anymore, Blake, and you would like to have a word. Yeah, I'm not happy about this. They pass this every year. We'll see if it gets past the Senate. I believe they might not have the votes. I hope they don't have the votes. Because their bill is to have a stop changing our clocks, but it's to take us to permanent daylight

savings time. They're going to have the clocks forward all the time. And as we've discussed on thought crime several times, as we've occasionally discussed here, as we had to debate with Charlie, the problem with that is this is in revolt against first of all the will of God because standard time is the one that's aligned to noon is approximately when the sun is actually overhead

but it's also the one that's aligned to our actual body chemistry your biarrhythm any of that woo-woo as I would call it but your body is supposed to slow down your body is supposed to see that night is falling and you should prepare

for rest and instead we revolt against this. We keep the sun high in the sky all the way until 9, 10 p.m. at night in many places, or even later. And then we go to bed way too late. We still get up too early. Our bodies feel like crap. We have health ailments. And we die earlier than we should. And Congress, just they keep trying to, they keep trying to lead us down this sinister path. And I just think the other 48 states should join Arizona and Hawaii in, embracing permanent standard time. I will also note, we got this entire daylight savings time shenanigans due to FDR's authoritarian status borderline socialist government back in the New Deal. I'm not making this up. You can go look it up. FDR thought that if they kept the sun up later,

people would go shopping more and this would stimulate the economy. That was his reasoning. Sometimes people will say this is for farmers. I would note that cow, do not know whether it is daylight savings time or not. So if you're raising cows or animals, they're going to do the same thing, regardless of what the clock says. So I reject this. I want Congress to re-roll it.

I want permanent standard time. Or if they're going to pivot us anyway, they could do something crazy. Maybe just have us do a half-hour shift and have us be completely at odds with the entire rest of the planet. But I reject this daylight savings time push. It annoys me.

We should have on Sager and Jetty again to campaign against this. You're right. I was going to say. So Charlie did weigh in on this. He says, I personally am going to push for an end daylight savings time. This is the dumbest thing ever. Trump will bring more light to the world. Well, I will say, I think Charlie's confused there. I think he was confused. Yeah, because that's in November. So that's when we're going back to standard time. And he's saying he wants some more light. Charlie sadly did want more evening light. He was one of, he was, he was led astray on that issue, I believe. Well, he also tweeted, daylight savings is a stupid idea and should be abolished immediately. So, but I will say, I think you're right. I think it was actually a little confused because I remember after that tweet went viral, we were like, wait, did we get that backwards? Which is one of the problems with the whole system anyways, because everybody's always confused what is what.

I will tell you, personally, having now lived in Arizona since end of last year, I actually really love the standard time. I have to admit it. I am a convert. I was wrong. I was one of the people that wanted more light at the end of the day into the evening. I didn't like how dark it got so early, but I really don't like switching. So this is the big issue here. When you switch, it screws everything up. And I know everybody's like, it's not that hard. You just push a button. No, you've got to like readjust your circadian clock. You've got to readjust kids' bedtimes, what time they're go to bed, it screws up their head. Apparently, there's a lot more heart attacks, there's a lot more car accidents when you do the fall back and it gets dark, you know, earlier. So anyways, the point is,

I think I actually said that backwards. When it gets dark earlier, see, this is the problem with daylight savings then right here. Anyways, the point is, it causes a lot of issues. More car accidents, more heart attacks, problems at home, do not switch. I, so I agree that standard time would be preferable. I'm actually very much in agreement with Blake now on this, although I will tell you when you were pontificating about this, our chat, our team chat was saying, Danny says

Blake is wrong and Kibu said he's wrong about this for sure. Danny says more light. All I'm going to say is, they live in Arizona. Even Charlie, he might have said he preferred daylight. He might have preferred longer evenings. Oh, do we have that? Let's go.

Let's play clip 18. But you just don't like changing the clock. No, no. What I don't like is how early it gets dark in the winter. So whatever makes it, called winter. Whatever is. That's called God's time, Charlie. Lighter, longer is the solution. Lighter longer is the solution.

So that's basically him endorsing daylight savings. He was led astray. He was led astray. We should have, he should appreciate. I think some people, I mean, Charlie was a very driven guy. I think a few people get too gung-ho. They like the idea that they're getting up before the sun rises every day. It's still super dark.

And I think this makes them feel a really tough guy. I think this appeals to some go-getter types. But no, we should align our bodies with God's time. We should arise with the sun. We should slumber with the sun. We have a tweet from Alex Clark who agrees with you, Blake. Everyone agrees that twice-year clock change is ridiculous. But if we're making one-time permanent,

why choose the one that most sleep in circadian experts don't? don't recommend. Permanent standard time aligns better with our biology because morning sunlight is what sets our internal clocks. Permanent daylight savings time means darker winter mornings, later body clocks, and more circadian disruption. This would be another disaster for American health. It's probably too late to stop this, but switch this to permanent standard time instead. Amen. Amen. And I agree with her. You made a convert out of me. Arizona made a convert out of me.

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Rich Barris, big data poll, the people's pundit. How are we, my friend? Welcome back to the show. Living the dream, brother. Thanks for having me as always. Is that a new suit? that I see? Is that a new, is that a new, it looks well-fitted, Rich? It is. Oh, no, you're thinking of the other thing. No, that's...

I had to get fitted earlier this morning for our talks. No, this is different. This is different. Yeah, well, anyways, you're looking great, sounded great. All right, Rich. Thanks, bro. You and I have talked, and Blake have talked extensively about the Iran War. We've done it on the show. I will tell you, Blake and I have really immediate experience with this, talking to some of our turning point kids about Iran. how they don't like it, how many of the kids in their circles. Iran has been a wedge issue for them where they don't know how to defend it. They don't like it. For some of them, it means they're not going to vote for Trump again.

All right, let's just brass tax it, okay? Yeah. Then things kind of fell into this detain. And it was, we were working on the MOU. That has fallen apart that we are back to kinetic strikes. There's a lot of news about the Strait of Hormuz. But it doesn't feel, if I'm just temperature check, on the media surrounding it, on the social media of it all. It doesn't feel like it's got back up to that previous level.

It feels sort of, I don't know if this is the new normal. From a polling perspective, Rich, what do you make of this? Because we had high hopes going into the midterms. We could put this whole Iran thing behind us and we could seek peace, domestic focus, all that stuff. Where does this leave us? Well, nationally, Andrew, we're going to find out in a few days. We'll do our benchmark monthly. During that dayton, that MOU, after the vice president and,

announced it and he was selling it that entire week. We polled that entire week. And he came roaring back. I mean, there's a 10 point bump on net for Trump and his approval rating. And it was, that resulted in a tightening of the generic ballot. But we do elaborated interviews with people all the time. And I think what it, we're going to find out what it is nationally. But in some of the battleground states, it means his approval is going to fall again. And, you know, in levels we really don't want to see. But there is, I think you're right that there is a, I don't want to say, a concession because I don't think they're conceding, I don't think they're conceding and I mean, they're happy with it. But there may be, you know, kind of a floor for President Trump

where it just doesn't matter unless all hell would break loose. They understand now that we're back at it. They don't like it, but now we're back at it. What I think what I'm really concerned about is what it means for prices going forward, Andrew. We saw the CPI report this week. It was good news, but that was because of the ceasefire guys. And by the way, It didn't even bring us back to a third of what we lost because of the war over inflation. So, you know, it meant we were headed in the right direction, but we still have, unfortunately, price gains that are left on the table. We needed a more sustained ceasefire in order to make dense. That's what I'm concerned about because I'm looking at Brent crude right now.

You know, that's concerning me. Price of gas is an everyday thing for a minute right now. What's the price of Brent right now? The spike. Let's let me go back to it. I just looked at the spike. sharp for Brent crew price today. It is 80.992 right now.

84.76. It's moving. Okay. I'm looking at 80.92. So, Rich, we maybe asked you this before, but we mentioned gas prices. And that is obviously an unsurprising easy go-to. It's a thing that does fluctuate pretty significantly in price, unlike most things people buy. But how much of polling literally is directly correlated. to whatever the current gasoline prices. Do people really often default to that is what I assume the economy is doing?

Like that is their shorthand? I think because right now, economy and jobs more generally is the second most important issue. Cost of living. How much things cost is the number one. And there's so much that's involved in that. Like, I mean, healthcare premiums, right? Deductibles, housing, rent, electric bills. Gas is just something.

the reason why it's so damaging politically is because people see it every day. Even your electric bill, you're paying once a month, right? You're paying your rent once a month. But your gas bill, you're paying almost every day, you know, every couple of days. Some people, you know, still live to every $10 to $15 that they have, you know, at a time where, you know, some of us are more fortunate and can fill it up as, you know, as we go to a gas station and we don't deal with it as much. But even still, someone like me, that I still see it. You know, I was happy, I was, because gas went up by me. super stoked that I got to use my rewards today and I got a dollar off. So it was less than

70 bucks to fill up my entire tank. But for others, you know, who are, you know, obviously lower income brackets, it does, it hurts. And what it can result in, not only of them switching their vote, but maybe just not voting at all because they're upset over it. That's my question, Rich, actually, is we talk about vote switching. I think in most people's minds, that's how this works. But really, it's people opting out, especially with young men. We see that. that in a big way. So is your concern more on that? Is that what's being picked up in your polling, that people are kind of just opting out of the system? And we got to remember, we don't have Trump on the ballot, right? So Trump is a great galvanizing force for the left, but he's also a great

galvanizing, get out the vote force for us on the right. So is that what you're concerned about? It is. And I, unfortunately, and I, it is, I mean, I'm sure we tell you, like last year, I told the White House, it's not fair to ask him to do this, but the party is just not ready without him yet. He has to do it. He has to go out and win those races. The way that he did in 2018, the Senate could have went really bad in 2018, if not for Donald Trump himself, going out there and doing it. Just so people understand how Trump won in 24, there were a few things. It's never just one thing, but you just brought up young men. Millennial men and down, that was it. Trump galvanizing these voters. It's not that they changed there. Yes, he won the mind changers, but the mind

changers aren't as big of a group as I think some people think. You have the high propensity mind changers you have to be really concerned about. But going after 24, I said it on election night and 24, celebrate, congratulations. This is awesome. It's an incredible coalition, but it's also one that is a lower propensity coalition. From this point forward, you have to figure out as Truman and other Democrats did in the middle of the 20th century, particularly, you have to figure out how to get these people and turn them into midterm voters, which can be done. We know, we know. We know, it can be done because we watched people in the 20th century do this. It's more of a modern phenomena that people opt out like this. But the 80s babies and younger, they were the driving

force behind Trump's win. And even among 80s babies, that was the highest group of mind changers. But how he did better with even suburban, educated women, wasn't that he convinced a bunch of them who voted for Biden to vote for him. He drove out a whole other group of them. And by the way, you can look at this. Pugh, they did their voter validated survey. They found the exact same thing we found, which is, yes, he won some mind changers, but really what it came down to is that he galvanized a group of people

that just don't vote if they ever vote, and that he changed the electorate and what it looks like. And Andrew, that is, that is, yes, that is the goal of the Republican Party because, guys, it's not coming back. You know, like the Romney Coalition, the 2014 electorate, the 2010 electorate, Democrats were able to, to overperform in 22, one, because of redistricting, but also, two, they understood the realignment better, and they put their resources where they knew they needed to put them, and they were able

to beat back, you know, Herschel Walker, who did phenomenal in the first round, but he felt just shy of 50%. It was because the Republican voter, as a lower prop voter, they did not come out for that runoff, that Raphael Warnock was able to beat him in that second round. That would not have happened 10 years ago. It would have been the reverse. But this is the reality that we live in now. That's why this young coalition is so important. Everyone focuses on the boomers because they vote at high rates. And that's true.

But Andrew, boomers are not Republican, like the silent generation was Republican. So this constant catering to the boomers is foolish beyond. I mean, the math just isn't on your side if you're making that case. By the way, buy burn it down. That's exactly the point. Joshua Lysak and I are making in that book. And soon, when these voters drop out altogether, what are we going to do in a mid-term? term guys four years from now. What are we going to do? You know, or in 2032, it will be obviously

President Andrew. What are we going to do in 2034? It will be lost if we don't start to understand this, grapple with it now and deal with it now. And we don't really have time to learn on the curve. I totally agree. And you do a good job of distinguishing between boomer one, boomer two, right? Like I think like Madonna and Magic Johnson are boomer two. You know, just to like put it in perspective, like the age range that we're dealing with. I want to throw this poll up. This is from morning consult here, Rich. President Trump says this is kind of still in that. Hey, we're forging a hard-fought piece with Iran.

President Trump's approval rating went up two. So approved 45, disapproved 53. And Vice President Vance, again, who is seen as the leader, the charge leader of this peace deal, his approval rating went up plus seven. And he had a net approval rating, 45 over 44, right? And you saw that generic ballot shrink. I hope and I pray that the reemergence of hostilities with Iran is not going to take us backwards, but it's very much something that could happen.

But to your point, and we saw this, Blake and I saw this with our students, you know, they're worried about a $20 burrito. That's what they don't want. And so those types of costs are very sticky in the culture and in the economy. And so we got work to do, folks. We got a lot of work to do. All right, Rich, I want to go through the Senate races because there's a lot of intrigue with them. Let's start with Maine, right?

You've got, throw up this. This is a Maine poll, and this was commissioned by a pro-Shah, Narav Shah, outside group, has her slightly up. It's 47-46. Susan Collins is beating Troy Jackson, 48-47, and Susan Collins is tied 47-47 with Shenabellos. what are you making of this race as it shakes out and who do we want to run against? Yeah. First, Maine is an incredibly difficult state to poll. We were literally one of only two pollsters to project that Donald Trump would win the second congressional district. It is hard. And I'm saying it's even hard for me and I'm a confident pollster. It's a tough state because

the second district and the first district are so different and because the response rates between those districts, it's almost like two states. If you've ever been there, you know what I'm It really is. It really is. It's very like, it's very earthy, crunchy. It feels like you're in Seattle when you're in Portland. And then the rest of the state is complete, you know, I mean, these people are working with their hands, it's very blue collar.

It's rural. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I mean, think Stephen King, Haven, it. These are all areas that are taking place in some, you know, mythical town in the second congressional district of Maine. But yeah, look, I think there's ups and downs with Platiner. I think Republicans, again, like they did with California, there were many that jumped on the attack Platner ship, you know, or they jumped on that bandwagon when they should not have. And they should have waited until the deadline and then slow dripped and took him out by death by a thousand cuts.

I didn't like what they did to Grand Platner. That's a separate story because I don't think we should have a chilling effect on normal people running. I don't think the ruling class is going to save us. The pedigree got us into this mess. Normal people will have to get us out. I firmly believe that. But with this, look, Susan Collins, I hear this all the time. Susan Collins overperforms.

She always beats her polling. That's not true. Susan Collins beats her polling when Donald Trump is on the ballot. And the reason why she does is because Donald Trump gets more second congressional district, low propensity voters to vote. And when they come out, they say, yeah, I guess I'll vote for Susan too. She's got an R next to her name. That's what happens. So people were looking at this all wrong.

She's in deep trouble, man. I mean, there's no doubt. This is not a good environment right now, and I don't see how Democrats are going to have the kind of night that, you know, our generic ballot suggests they could have if we don't fix this and not carry Maine. I do think it was, you know, Platner was probably the better bet, but here we are now.

Yeah, one word on the Platner thing. I mean, I think the guy is a total scumbag, but I agree with you that the way those attacks were rolled out. I do believe they were mostly left on left, but you're right, the right jumped on that bandwagon. Absolutely. But it was, to be fair, it was hard. You know, when he's talking about himself as this oyster farmer

and he's really just like a mama's boy who's selling, you know, to his rich parents and, you know, living off of disability payments from the government. Go ahead. Rich, we only have three minutes. And I want to ask about a race. I feel I don't hear asked about a lot. And I'm checking the polls and it's making me raise an eyebrow a bit. What are your thoughts on Iowa?

that's where we have Joni Ernst retiring and I'm looking the most recent poll and it's by it seems to be a collab between a Republican Democrat firm Josh Turek up four over Ashley Henson and the most recent one she's winning she's up too. What do you make of that race? I hate to say this but guys if you take

a second and just remember how difficult these states Ohio as well how difficult they were for Republicans for us before the era of Trump it really isn't that surprising to see them swing that hard And 18, Iowa actually swung harder against Republicans than Ohio did. I think we're probably going to see a bit of a reverse of that this time. But, you know, if one goes one way, the other's going to go that way too.

And Ohio is a struggle right now as well. Sherrod Brown is an extremely difficult candidate to beat. Bernie only beat him by three and a half when Trump beat Harris by 13 and a half. So I think the problem and the concern I have with Ashley Hinson and Blake the entire time was the same concern I have with Randy Finchstra, which is that they're just like snooze-fest candidates. I mean, and every time we've actually spoken to voters in Iowa, and they're very engaged, these are very smart, informed people.

Iowa takes their politics very seriously, and more times than not, we hear about Ashley's past, and people were confused about why Donald Trump supported her, because, of course, she wasn't really a Trump supporter. She's rebranded herself, but now it is what it is. And I think we got to be careful in the future with just kind of asking people to hold their nose and vote for people that they don't want to vote for.

Thank God, Zach Lane won and was able to beat Randy Finstra because I think he's got a better chance to bring out that Maha vote, which will help Ashley. It's still a very steep hill for Democrats to climb. But again, if you look back in 18, guys, we got plowed in every congressional district. Even the first is always the closer one. They were able to hold on in district four, and that was it.

So Iowa has had a habit of doing this. It has the highest number of swing or pivot counties out of any state in the country, which a lot of people find surprising because it's white and people think it's so Republican. 31 pivot counties voted for Barack Obama not once but twice and then voted for Donald Trump. Not once, not twice, but three times. And in between, they have swung hard against Republicans in bad years. Really, really quick. Michigan, what are we thinking there and New Hampshire?

All right, Michigan is not where I'm bullish for Republicans. I see a lot of people. You know, they have a lot of hope in Rogers. It's tight. The polling are tight. It is. And I just don't think that El-Said is outside of the Democratic mainstream as much as people want to pretend he is. He made a hay over the comments before.

Let me just say this because I hear the music. Rogers fell short with Trump on the ballot. He's going to need a lot of help this time in order to beat even El-Said in November. Which bears, big data poll. The people's pundit. Thanks, my friend. Good to see you. All the best, guys. If you could go back in time and buy oil before the world relied on it, would you? Of course you would. Anybody would. So why aren't you buying silver right now? The people who recognized oil early didn't just make money. They got ahead of one of the biggest economic shifts in history. And today, a similar opportunity is unfolding with silver.

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and also expose more of it. That's Andy Noe. is investigative journalist and author of the upcoming book, The Zizzians. and he has just announced this. It's not out yet, but I can't wait to talk to him about it when he can. Andy, welcome back to the show. It's good to have you, my friend.

Thank you for helping me on. I want to show, just show the book art here, because it's, it's, it's, I think it says a lot, even though we can't talk about it too much. Zizians, inside, yeah, inside a trans death cult. Honestly, I think that might be a good place to start, Andy. just what is this death cult? What is this for someone who's never heard of what a Zizian is? So your audience is unfortunately quite familiar with the rides of transviolence. And this is a phenomenon that I noticed in my 10 years of reporting on Antifa, particularly during the BLM Antifa riots in 2020 after George Floyd died, I noticed that night after night, there was such a

disproportionate representation of trans individuals amongst the violent riot suspects who were arrested in my home city of Portland and in places like Seattle and other cities across the United States. So then I kept looking more and more into it. And then eventually it led me into investigating a trans death cult that operated across the U.S. with members from all over the world. and they are accused of and are linked to at least eight violent brutal deaths. So the Zizians Insider Trans Deaths cult is the result of a year and a half of investigating field research, interviews with witnesses, gathering evidence that people have never seen, and it's a true crime book. This is not a right-wing political book.

It's about gathering the facts and describing a phenomenon. that we all are becoming too familiar with, and it's also an indictment against failures in law enforcement, in institutions, in the court, and in society. Yeah, and Andy, when does the book come out so people can pre-order? 13th of October, and it's available for pre-order now. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Please, everybody check this out.

It's so important, and it strikes very close to home here, obviously. But you announced this book, Andy, and you get instantly like a massive amount of pushback and blowback from this community. You are probably their least favorite person. And, you know, there's this one tweet we're looking at right here. We can put it up on the screen. It says, using the spiritual power contained within my favorite childhood stuffed toy as a conduit, I condemn your soul, Andy, Andy, no.

You will begin coughing in a week. And it's pictures of some, like, voodoo doll ritual, which is, like, really disturbing. there's a picture of this trans person that is doing this and it looks like a very disturbed dark individual I'm assuming this is a male dressed up like a woman and that's the person putting this sort of hex on you or something right and why this when I saw this it was like Andy you got to come on is because it instantly reminded me of what it reminded you you posted about it

But instantly when I saw the threats against you, and I remembered, you know, we paid some Etsy, which is to curse Charlie Kirk right before he was killed. And it said, and they say this, there's really gross stuff. It says, well, it's worth trying. It worked before. How do you, how are you processing this? Central to the, central to the trans ideologies, a rejection of biology and reality and a rejection of the belief in God. they believe themselves to be their own goddesses in gods. And therefore, a lot of them are involved in occult practices. There has been a ramping up of those who are posting about wishing and casting so-called blood curses on me and others, and they believe that they have been successful in

harming and killing individuals that they would like to see wiped out. I really want to focus on how we notice, all of us notice the hyperbole by what trans activists say. They say that they are victims of the genocide. The Zizians believe that as well. Because they believe that gender in their worldview is existential to them. So therefore, if you are in the way somehow, if you urge people to be restrained that all of you, all of us are party to a genocide. And therefore, there's an imperative for them to take direct action. And there's a feedback loop as well. It's one thing if these were just only on the fringes and violence was exceptionally rare. But it's not rare. And it's not in the after Charlie was murdered, after a number of people were killed or died in some type of

circumstances, we see the outpouring of celebrations from many, many people on the left and people who work in careers such as teaching or nursing and other so respectable type of jobs. That creates this feedback loop where then those who who are supportive of violent direct action, get massive affirmation. So we really are seeing not just the rise of violence and extremism, we're seeing a rise of terrorism, and it's playing out in front of our eyes,

and we're being told it's not happening. Yeah, and of course it's happening. And I love the way you just walked us through that, Andy. I think it's really important, and I hope people are internalizing this, that their identity is so foundation, to their sense of self, to their sense of existing, that if you tell them that a boy can't become a girl

and a girl can't become a boy, they view that as violence in some sort ideological violence against them. And so it justifies all manner of reaction. It justifies all manner of violence to sort of protect this ideological framework that they've constructed their whole identity upon. and one of the reasons I think this is so important

is because we've seen all the conspiracy stuff around Charlie's assassination and it has taken our eye off the ball of where so much of this domestic terrorism is coming from where so much of these violent threats are coming from and I think that's a mistake I think that that is a tragedy if we don't look and see the big E on the eye chart as it were that there is a group that is telling us that they are willing to arm themselves,

they are willing to take action, they are willing to kill if we stand in their way of this perverted worldview that is an abomination of God's design, candidly. Andrew, be honest about what it is. Think about what we talked about at the top of the show, the security threats facing the Supreme Court. They just ruled on men and women's sports

might not be the last ruling that they have on a trans-related issue. And if these people are hyping themselves up, that terrorism is justified, if they're willing to engage in suicidal level violence, it's not that difficult, I believe, for one of them to potentially take out a Supreme Court justice, maybe even several of them. You brought up that there's been a misdirection that's leading by certain conspiracy theorists and liars in the influencer space.

And it's more consequential than even the effects on the ongoing pretrial. hearings and the future trial against Tyler Robinson. That's very important. But another thing people have to consider is that, you know, there's a finite number of hours that the public, that individuals have to listen to content and watch podcast episodes. These people, these conspiracy theories, is putting out rubbish and lies out there. Whilst on the other side, you know who the left has those influences, people like Hassan, Piker, calling for the streets to run red with the blood of their enemies. They have legions of people

on Reddit and TikTok and Instagram posting videos of trans people, urging people to take up firearms training and stockpile weapons. You have Antifa cells across the United States like the one in North Texas that carried out a terrorist shooting. You have thousands of individuals like those in Minnesota taking up – occupying the streets to carry out – anti-government attacks to protect foreign illegal nationals. So it's not just entertainment that this type of content is being put out. It's we're really really hurting our side by so many of people, so many people on the right have been taken by these liars and these grifters while the other side is preparing for war by and violence. Yeah. And it's, and it's,

I hate that. I hate that it's true, but I know that it's true. And, you know, we've gotten to a point where a lot of, you know, threats, intimidation tactics, bullying, and even death threats are now coming from people, are now flowing directly from people that many used to believe we're on the right. And that's the public demonstration of some of this because the conspiracies have gotten so out of whack. But it doesn't change the fact. that when you look at polling on this, that self-described progressives between 18 and 39 are by far the largest group that is willing to tell a pollster, yeah, sometimes violence is justified to achieve a political end. And a lot of these people are getting very radicalized. You see this with the rise of DSA. If you look at these DSA meetings, it's like purple hair, green hair, masks, and a lot of trans. and this is becoming more and more radicalized and within the apparatus of the Democrat Party or the left-wing establishment. It's being normalized because it's growing and the energy on the grassroots is growing.

And a lot of this is coming out with these domestic terrorists being willing to attack us, hunt us down, threaten us, and use actual violence. There was a whole rash of it, and Blake has told the story many times that Charlie actually warned about this and Blake was sort of not, ready to accept it, but then has admitted that it was, that Charlie was right about this.

And unfortunately, those, those, those, you know, that outcome directly impacts his own life. No, absolutely. It was that covenant shooting and Charlie predicted we'd have a wave of trans-inspired shooters. And my thinking was, there's not that many shooters generally. And especially if they're often believing that they're women, they're probably, they might be taking hormones that would make them less violent. And I was just wildly off the mark on that one. We've just seen several since then. We can see this is an ideology that is particularly effective at radicalizing its members to believe they're under threat of genocide. That's the word they'll use. And that literally any means are acceptable to fight back against us. And it's really terrifying what is getting unleashed in these

Discord chats, these signal rooms and these meetup groups all across the country. Andy, I want to play your trailer before we run out of time here because I think it's really well done. SOT 19. Who are the Zizzians? It's a question that consumed my life, one that took me from England back to America to investigate from coast to coast. As I investigated, the story became darker. More shocking with every turn.

Left-wing ideology. Hideouts on land. See, staged death, human experimentation, brutal violence, murder. I tracked on sources, interviewed witnesses, uncovered hidden records, and pieced together an impossible story from fragments scattered across the world. What emerged was one of the most disturbing investigations of ever undertaken. This is the true story of the Zizians. Scary stuff there, Andy.

Blake was talking about the medication side of it, right? The hormones, the drugs that they have to take. You call it a cult. Where do those two aspects interlock and overlap? One minute, Andy. I actually wrote about this in the book. I investigated. I looked at the body of literature that's out there.

And there's actually a lot more published than you would think, looking at how mood and aggression and anger is a fact is tracked in individuals who are female and take cross-hormone drugs, as well as males who take cross-hormone drugs. And the evidence that's been documented in research is more surprising than what the trans-activist would have you think. It's actually the complete opposite. But you have to read about that in my book. And I hate to leave it on the cliffhanger there, but it comes out on the 13th of October. And the book is about a particular trans-death cult, but also, this phenomenon of trans violence and what may be driving it. Andy, no, investigative journalist,

author of the new book, upcoming book, available in October, The Zizians. I'm going to read it. I'm very, very much grateful for your contribution here, Andy, and for refocusing all of us on the fact that transviolence is real. Andy, no. We'll see you again soon. Thank you. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y. Refai. You've probably been hearing me talk about Y ReFi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments. Maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Why Refi will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to

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The left is basically saying this is Trump's private attorney. He's doing Trump's bidding. I don't believe that that's true, first of all. But even if it were true, hypothetically, is there anything in the Constitution that precludes that? Remember, President Obama said that Eric Holder was his. wingman and President John F. Kennedy hired his brother, Robert Kennedy, to be his attorney general. I don't think Democrats should be crying too much about Todd Blanche as the next attorney general. Todd Blanche is on a glide path to confirmation he will be confirmed by August recess,

probably around August 5th or 6th. And the reason is, as Todd has demonstrated once again today, that he is uniquely qualified for this job. He has been a law clerk in the Justice Department. He was a paralegal and worked his way through night school to get his law degree. He's been a federal prosecutor, a line attorney and assistant U.S. attorney in the Southern District of New York, the most prestigious U.S. attorney's office in the country. He was at a big white shoe law firm in New York, and he gave all that up to go represent President Trump against this Democrat lawfare, this weaponization, this Republic ending

lawfare. It was Todd Blanche, along with Amel Bovie, his partner, who is now a judge on the Third Circuit, Boris, Will Scharf, Alina Haba, John Sauer, so many good people who went in there and fought for President Trump against that lawfare, and they won. And now President Trump is back in the White House saving America. Todd Blanche was confirmed as the Deputy Attorney General just over just under 16 months ago, every Senate Republican voted for him. The Deputy Attorney General has all the statutory powers or almost all the statutory powers as the Attorney General. Todd has fired the bad people, hired the good people, closed the bad cases, brought the good cases. He hired Joe DeGeneva to bring accountability for

the lawfare, Jodavidavah is working with Jason Redding Cignonese. My friend, who's the Miami U.S. attorney, they've gotten grand juries open. If you believe the news reporting, subpoenas have gone out. Todd Blanche is firing on all cylinders. Todd understands that he has to get rid of a weaponized justice system, and that means bringing reforms and accountability. So that's going to happen. So the Justice Department goes back to working for America. and to making sure that we are putting bad guys in prison. We're putting violent criminals in prison. We're putting migrants who commit crimes in prison instead of going after your political enemies, their top aides, their allies, parents, Christians. Todd Blanche is the real deal. He has lived

with the law fair. He has the unique experience. He is uniquely qualified to address it. You know, it's interesting, Mike. Sometimes I hear kind of whisper campaign. in conservative circles that Todd is actually just a sort of liberal New York kind of guy, and he's kind of a wolf in sheep's clothing is the accusation against him. I sort of look at his track record. I look at the fact that he did decide to represent President Trump in a point where it was very difficult to do so, and he had a lot to lose. And so I've always kind of taken it with grain of salt.

I don't know if it's worth addressing, but Mike, I'm sure you've heard this criticism. What do you make of it? Man, a New York Democrat. I can't believe we would have a New York Democrat like President Trump in the White House. I mean, Todd Blanche, like a lot of people, a lot of businessmen, a lot of lawyers in New York City, you're a Democrat. But, you know, Todd Blanche has been through the welfare ringer with President Trump in many courtrooms in many states across America. He's seen it. He beat it.

He's the real deal. Just look at his track record as the thing. deputy attorney general for the last nearly 16 months. Look at his track record as the acting attorney general for the last several months. This guy, look, I would much rather have someone like Todd Blanche, who is a New York Democrat or whatever the hell he is, than someone like Mark Wayne Mullen, who is telling TPS, Haitians, and Syrians after we won a Supreme Court case after five years to just apply for permanent residency or Mark Wayne Wolin who's telling ice agents that they can't do traffic stops anymore. And the president had to overrule him today on a truth post.

I think I would rather go with someone like Todd Blanche who was actually bled for the president than, you know, some Washington swamp creature like Mark Wayne Mullen. I mean, your point is well made. You know, I'm holding back judgment on that. I'm doing my research before I weigh in on that, the traffic stop thing. So Mark Wayne has come on the show before. I was friends with Charlie, so I'm doing my research there, but I'm probably going to weigh in tomorrow. So I hear you loud and clear. I want to get to this point of, I thought Senator Eric Schmidt did a pretty stand-up job of pointing out one of the big hypocrisies in the left's arguments against confirming Todd Blanche's AG Sato. I heard one of my colleagues say that this is the most troubled

Department of Justice in history. I happen to live through the previous administration where you had a Department of Justice completely weaponized against political opponents. They tried to try to throw their chief political opponent in jail, ruin his family's lives. When you go after your political opponents, that is a weaponization.

When you hold people accountable who weaponize the justice system, that's not the same thing. That's a key distinction that's getting lost in the noise right now. I was so glad he called it out because if you remember one of the mandates, and if you talk to any base voter, any conservative grassroots voter, they want accountability for the weaponization that was exacted upon conservatives during the last administration. Holding those people accountable is not weaponization. It's called the law.

And I was just so glad to hear him do that. I don't know if you want to opine on that a little bit, Mike, but I have one more clip for you too. I love Senator Eric Schmidt from Missouri. He's one of the best senators we have. And he's exactly right. What Biden and Obama did to Trump, his top aides, his allies, his supporters, parents, Christians is they went after them for non-crime, right? That's the illegal. Now that we're holding them accountable for their lawfare, their weaponization, their conspiracy against rights under 18 U.S. C. Section 241, that's called accountability.

That's ensuring we bring reforms so this never happens again. Yeah. Well, and listen, they're falling flat. I'm going to play two clips here really quick. This is Senator Dick Durbin crying foul about the SBLC indictments, SOT 8. You have also baselessly indicted the Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights organization that has worked tirelessly to expose violent extremists, like the proud boys and oathkeepers.

It's got to be living under a rock. It's just amazing that he would even consider launching that attack. I had to play that because it's just. too rich. But this is actually one of the clip I'm most interested in getting to. This is Marsha Blackburn. I forgot about this. She was calling for transparency on Epstein during the Biden administration and she got shut down and she calls him to account on this. SOT 13. I would like to make you aware that when ranking member Durbin was chairman in the last Congress, I tried repeatedly to subpoena the Epstein file.

that we could get those banking records and those flight logs and repeatedly that was blocked. So the Democrats at that point didn't want to know what was in the Epstein files until they lost the majority. I was so glad she called Dick Durbin out for this because not only was he being just ridiculous on this SPLC matter, he was blocking the release of the Epstein files. Mike Davis. Yeah, so the Southern Poverty Law Center, the SPLC, funded the Ku Klux Klan, right? They funded the Ku Klux Klan while they were telling their donors that they're fighting the Ku Klux Klan. We have such little hates in America that the SPLC had to manufacture hates by working with the clan. And now Dick Durbin is on the side of the SPLC and the Ku Klux Klan.

So that shows you how far... And Epstein. Durbin has fault. And Epstein, and he's defending Epstein. Look, President Trump threw Epstein out of Moralago, right? With all the nonsense that they've thrown at President Trump over the last decade, if they had any evidence that Trump was part of the Epstein mess, that would have come out. They had to make up crimes to go after President Trump, right?

And it's the Democrats who are the party of the child rapist, of the pedophiles, of the illegal aliens. It's not the Republican Party. Well, and don't forget, Mike Davis, they lost 450,000 migrant children just in the interior. Just a lot of them got raped, sexually assaulted, abused. They didn't care. I want to talk to you about an issue so many Americans face, and that's health insurance. There's an organization I really, really appreciate, called Christian Healthcare. ministries.

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Do, but I can't say. So thanks for putting me on the spot there. But I would say this, election integrity is crucially important. And I think after President Trump's remarks tomorrow, I think there's going to be no more excuses for Senate Republicans to not get the Save America Act passed and on President Trump's desk. If we do not have secure elections in America, if we let illegal aliens vote in our elections, we lose our sovereignty as we the people, the sovereign citizens of America. That is unacceptable. And Senate Republicans, look, the Save America Act has support of over 80% of Americans, including a super majority of Democrats, a super majority of minorities, and even a super majority of black Americans. You know those black Americans who Democrats pretend do not have the wherewithal to get a voter ID like everyone else, when Democrats really just want their illegal aliens to vote.

to vote in our elections. And so what are the Democrats scared of? Why do they not want to have verifications in our election systems? Why do they not want voter ID? Why do they not want proof of citizenship? We know why. They want to replace voters in America, as they've done in New York City,

when they let illegal aliens vote, and then we get third world Marxist, Islamist, communist, like Mayor Mandani or whatever the hell his name is, who's going to destroy. America's financial capital. The Republicans need to get their heads out of their behinds and pass the Save America Act. This 60-vote threshold arguments, nonsense. You need 60 votes to cut off legislation. You need a simple majority to pass legislation, excuse me, 60 votes to cut off debate in the Senate and 50 votes plus the vice president to pass legislation. If Democrats

wants to debate the Save America Acts cancel August recess. Recess is for kids. Oh, amen, Mike. Now you're speaking my language. This garbage about them taking like 48 weeks off every year is got to stop. It's got to stop. It's time for me to swoop in because this is just the thing that makes me so angry, especially because there's nothing these lawmakers care more about than apparently getting reelected. And I can't think of anything that would help them get reelected more than shaking up the idea that all they do is sit around and do nothing. They've strung us along for what six months at this point on the Save Act where we hear, oh, we're getting really close, we're getting really close. And we've just been around the block on this so much. And if they could just make a big dramatic show, I'm sure Leader Thune could arrange for cameras to do this. If he made a big show of here's, we're going to make sure every single vacancy is filled.

For every nominee that President Trump has put forward, and then we're passing these signature legislative items, save act, throw some border security stuff in, fix birth tourism. If you were able to blast that out to the American people in the last month leading up to an election, I think it might really give people the impression that Congress is getting things done and helping to deliver. The people like winners. They like people who go out and achieve things. even if they otherwise, we feel skeptical on the policies. They'll like it if they're getting done. Let's listen to Democrat Senator Elisa Slotkin. The Save America Act would make it hard for Democrats to win.

Oh, that's an interesting quote. SOT 20. The other thing that we blocked yesterday was the Save Act, right? This administration to rig our democracy so that it would be hard for any Democrat in any state to win any election. And disenfranchise all married women in the meantime, by the way. You have to show your birth certificate at the polls if you have a married name. These guys are such liars. I'm so sick of it.

Yeah, as I said, women are too stupid and blacks are too stupid according to Democrats to get a voter ID like everyone else. This is just unbelievable the measures that they will take to prevent voter integrity. They know that illegal aliens are illegally voting in our elections. And that they desperately want those illegal. illegal aliens to vote. That's why these Democrats are doing everything they can to stop the Save America Act. And that's why it is so inexcusable for Senate Majority Leader John Thune to not put this on President Trump's desk. I would say to John Thune, if you can't pass legislation with over 80% support of Americans, including a supermajority of Democrats, minorities, and

black voters, you're in the wrong line of work, John Boone. You should go back to South Dakota because you should, you should not be in Congress. You should certainly not be the legislative leader in the Senate if you can't get that done. All right. So Mike Davis, final two minutes here. You can't give us anything more about Fulton County. Anything at all? Indictments. What is it, what is it about? I would say that after President Trump's speech, there's going to be a tremendous amount of pressure for John Thune to actually do his job and get the Save America back to President Trump's desk. And I predict that will actually happen. All right. You're being squirly. I'm going to let you off the hook just this once,

but I'm going to text you immediately after the press conference. Final thought here. We talked about it in the first hour. ACB is coming under. a lot of criticism. People are saying she should resign. She should, you know, step aside if she's afraid. And the allegation is that the threats are making her a coward, that she's voting, a ruling against the conservative worldview, the, you know, of jurisprudence. What do you think, Mike? Is that unfair to her, or are you on that team? I'm fully on that team. I think that Amy Coney-Barrant's a disaster. She auditioned. as the next justice Scalia, her supporters, her proponents, sold her as the next justice Scalia.

She was either a fraud and she's not the next justice Scalia or something changed her. And I think it's the latter. I think those Dobbs protests rattled her. And you saw this with her testimony before the Congress yesterday where she was asking for more security. Look, threats against judges is inexcusable. People need to be prosecuted for that. and it's unfortunate that she's going through that. It's terrible.

It's unacceptable. But her reaction was stunning. And I don't get stunned by much in Washington. She's rattled. I'm concerned she can't do the job because she's so concerned about the safety of her family. Fair enough. Mike Davis. We will watch Fulton County very closely tomorrow and I'll be texting you.

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