The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 105 — Woman-Free Miitary? End All H-1Bs? November Christmas Decorations?

Episode Date: November 15, 2025

The ThoughtCrime crew dives into the most important topics in the entire world, including:   -Is it time to end the H-1B immigrant visa, or does President Trump have a point about Americans lacking know-how? -Is Pete Hegseth purging the military of women, and if so is that a bad thing? -When is the correct time to put out Christmas decorations?   Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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All right, welcome to Thursday's Thought Crime, and we have Cliff Maloney in the house. What's up? Not in the big house, but the house, in the studio. You could be in a big house. It's great to be here. We got Mikey McCoy also in studio.

A lot of people from Pennsylvania are in a big house. That is true. It's a national pastime of you, Pennsylvanians, but that's fine. We also have Blake Neff. He's in studio in D.C., and then we have Jack Posobic in an undisclosed bunker. That's about all I'm going to say about that. He's on assignment. Yeah, you're on assignment in an undisclosed location. Jack Posobic, welcome. You're in an undisclosed location somewhere near California. I'm going to be asking a lot of questions

I want to have them answered immediately. Are you running a bot farm in Eastern Europe? Who is your daddy and what does he do? Yes, I'm not running a butt farm. Don't look at my butt farm. A butt farm. Is this a Romanian thing? That's what I've heard.

Not as questions about Romania. Well, we have a new time here. So we want to hear from you guys in the audience what you think about the new time. Do you like the new time? Do you hate the new time? Are you more likely to watch in the new time? Or are you less likely to watch?

And if you are less likely to watch, we don't actually want to hear that. We just want to hear the positive feedback. No, I'm kidding. We want to hear it all because this time works a lot better for a lot of reasons, especially when Jack is East Coast. We're on Mountain Time now in Arizona. Mountain time. And you're often on Pacific time, aren't you?

Correct. Which is tricky, especially when you have media. you uh jack do you can i just say yeah get a start since we're going to bring it up since we're going to bring it up since we're going to bring it up east coast time is the best time period there's no question about this eastern standard time is the best time zone look east coast is basically like that's basically like caffeine and adderall and cocaine and like like just you just drive the world when you live in the east coast you're in that like that new york philly D.C., Florida, Vector, you're driving the world, right? Not only should East Coast

time be the standard time for America, it should be a standard time for the world. Steal at Greenwich Mean Time away from London. London's time is over. It is time for East Coast supremacy. We have a rule at Citizens Alliance that Eastern Time is the Lord's Time. I don't know about that. I will say, you know, what does not get enough respect is Central Time or Mountain Time, because then you're kind of like split in the difference. Central time doesn't deserve any respect. Well, I'm just saying it from a quality of life standpoint, it's not as bad as you'd think because, you know,

at least you are roughly on the same time zone as the East Coast. You're just one hour behind, so it's not like terrible if you have to do East Coast timing things. But if you've got West Coast games when like the Dodgers are in the World Series and you're watching the World Series on West Coast Time, there's not be so late at night. Even when they announce it, they say the game's at 80th,

in five pacific they just skip over everything else time zones but i cliff cliff go with me on this imagine if all the all the west coast stoners had to wake up before the east coast they would have no idea what to do they would have they would be clueless they would be rudderless they need the firm steely-eyed hand of the east coast to set the way with all the like bad complexions the best never seeing the sun. The best time zone is pretty simple. It's Arizona time because it is the only time zone in America that is never on daylight savings time, which is, you know, this person blight upon the peoples of this earth. We can learn a lot from Arizona in that respect. We certainly could. I'm evolved. I'm evolved on this issue as, you know, Barack Obama said about gay marriage. I've, I've evolved on this issue, guys. And I actually do think standard time is, is probably the right time. Blake convinced me on this.

It's a Blake thing. Jackie had nothing to do with it. No, Blake convinced me first. You know it was funny because I had a Politico was like writing this up at one point. Did you know there's actually like a foundation for keeping us or getting rid of all the daylight savings time? And they were like sending stuff to me and they were like retweet our stuff. And I was like, hey, this is pretty good. And you know, they were like pulling up like Bible quotes and different.

health studies. There are political action committees dedicated to this issue. Yeah. And then Politico wrote it up and they came to me and they were like, did, did Donald Trump tell you to start tweeting about getting rid of daylight savings time? And I was like, no, but someone did. And they're like, who? Blake Neff. Who is this? Who is this Blake? Funny enough, they didn't report that part. So here's a question for Blake. So you were living on the East Coast and then you joined the Charlie Kirk Show and you moved to permanent standard time. What was that transition like for you?

Did you like it? Well, I liked it overall. I do like a kind of funny thing, an artifact of me moving out, is I actually still have my computer on Eastern Time because the show is on Eastern Time. Let's go.

It keeps me from getting messed up. It keeps me from getting messed up if I fly somewhere and I just, I always basically intuitively know let's just pay attention what time is it in DC because that's where most things are going on

that's where the show time is always on I do like things generally happening earlier in Arizona I do think there's this psychotic need to keep everything very late at night out east so I kind of like that the Super Bowl

begins as an afternoon event I like that the NFL basically is rolling as soon as like church is over, even if I go early in the morning. Yeah, I'm just kind of becoming a sucker for all these things that happen early in the day, which is accentuated by the fact that it's a traitor. You're a traitor to the east coast. It's accentuated by the fact that we don't have devilish clip, we don't have devilish daylight savings time in Arizona. So the sun is rising in the

morning as it should. And then it is setting in the evening when we should be proposed. caring to sleep. That's correct. And so all things are in alignment under Arizona times, whereas the East Coast goes and they rebel against God because they hate God on the East Coast. And so they keep the Sun up later in the day. And they have dinner.

They have dinner at 9 p.m. It's every one at a time. One at a time. And they want to stay up late. They want to stay up late. They want to stay up late on the East Coast because they want to stay up late on the East Coast because they want to watch late night television shows

like Jimmy Kimmel that are on very late at night and this is just part of their general evil dynamic on the East Coast so and yet Jimmy Kimmel is broadcast from the West Coast Blake yeah so that's a little fly in your point isn't it? They air

late at night for their East Coast audience it's not where it is recorded it's spiritually where is the show base yeah so many holes in this argument so many holes in this argument Swiss cheese argument over here when i go to like new york or dc and the the the just the late night of it all is really like an adjustment like people on the east coast stay up way later as a general cultural trend correct

than we do on the west coast and i don't love it i don't love it no like like i'll like when i'm you're texting me it's nine o'clock your time it's midnight my time i'm still up and then i'm hitting that wake up pray up gm christ is king that's 645 a m you got to roll you got a roll on listen you know what's funny though I just looked at our graphic throw up 342 this is hilarious to me so we

because you know the show graphic was made in Mountain Time they included 4 PMMT like nobody ever includes MT and I just noticed that 4 PMM there were people in the comments who were actually like correcting it and adding PT because people are like

why what is this like who puts empty in the graphic I don't know who on our team did this. Like, how many states are in MT? Quite a few. It's a pretty, you know, there's like a lot of states out there. Although a funny thing that happens with an MT.

So a funny thing, if you really want to be intensely pedantic, and I think it's caused issues before when we schedule things, is we'll send out those emails for like when we're doing the AMA with subscribers. And technically, even when we're on Pacific time due to daylight savings, time being practiced in the heathen lands, we're just always on mountain standard time. That is the official time in Arizona. We're not going back and forth between mountain and Pacific. It's just we're always on MST, Mountain Standard Time.

And this totally bamboozles people. This causes no end of trouble, which could all be eliminated if we eliminated the heathen daylight savings time and its rebellion against God, which is the cause of most natural disasters in the United States. I just have this vision of Blake, like, winning the lottery and spending all of the money on lobbying the U.S. government to make everything like Arizona. But, Blake, you said, I thought Hawaii also doesn't do time change. I think they do. I'm pretty sure Arizona is the only one.

I think it's Hawaii and Arizona. Did Hawaii change? Did Hawaii? That would explain why Hawaii doesn't have bad things happen to it, even though they're really lived. Wait, it just almost burned down Maui, but that's fine. It basically did. but hey throw up this image Okay Hawaii doesn't observe

Why it is not Hey you asked a question You asked a question we're going to answer it Look at 343 It's a pretty good map 343 so you got Arizona Which is on mountain time Like part of the time

What we would consider mountain time You got New Mexico You've even got western Texas Like so where El Paso is is on and then you've got Colorado Utah Wyoming Idaho Eastern Oregon I had no idea

only part of Idaho is on Mountain Time and then the northern part of Idaho goes back to Pacific Time all of Montana Southwestern North Dakota Western South Dakota Western Nebraska and Western Kansas I had no idea

it was this elaborate Is this like news to anybody else? I will say this Traveling as much as all of us do It is funny I'm actually interested Do you guys all keep your computer in a certain time zone? My role is my computer stays in Eastern. I keep them in America's time zone,

which is Eastern time zone. Okay. The Lord's time. Okay. Jack. My favorite thing. Your Wawa and your tasty cakes and your... Don't get me excited. And my Philadelphia Eagles, the United States Super Bowl champions. Is that going to happen again? I hope well. Yeah. Bad juju when we come here because they lost here. No. No, it's not going to happen. No. I will, before we move on, we should move on to our official topic in a second, but I do just Jess Freedom, we have our live chat now, and just Jess Freedom says that we have daylight savings time to help

farmers, and I need to wage war upon the smith because it is not true. If you've ever talked to a farmer, they can't follow daylight savings time because what do farmers work with? They work with the natural

world, which was created by God. And do cows know that the time zone has changed? No. The cows are going to do their cow stuff at the same time. Solar, the same solar time. So if you have to do something at sunrise, you just have to do something at sunrise. If you have to do something before, you know, the sun goes down, they're just going to do it regardless. So daylight savings time really has like no effect on the farmers. It was created during World War I by

evil people like Woodrow Wilson. And then it was brought back by other evil people like Franklin Roosevelt. And now we just perpetually live in slavery under what they've created. Wait, I did not know that. Woodrow Wilson, it was a rich daylight savings time originated under Woodrow. It was the original idea for it. The original idea

for it was during World War I and they thought it they thought it could save some energy and like they could, I think it was like they thought it would improve wartime production and something like that. I can't remember the exact nature of it, but it originally began in World War I as a wartime.

measure. And then they brought it back I'm not making this up. They brought it back during the Great Depression because FDR thought that there would be more shopping if there was more daylight and this would stimulate the economy. Let me throw out one cool factoid. Florida is not all in Eastern

time. Parts of Florida and central time. That's how you know because when the polls close... Yeah, we're not every year during the election. I figured the election folks would remember this, but they count obviously the first half, and then you've got a little piece of the panhandle. Yeah, it's a panhandle

that covers it, but that's how wide the panhandle is that it dips in the central time zone. I knew that because I went to Destin and I kept showing up an hour late to phone calls, and I had no idea that there was a central time zone in Florida. You know what? I do feel bad for the states that are like cut in a half,

right? Because you've got Tennessee. Eastern Tennessee is on Eastern, Western Tennessee's on Central. Eastern Kentucky, Eastern, Western. Idaho, same thing. Indiana has parts of eastern parts of western and did you know that the farthest west that the east coast time goes is to the upper peninsula but half of the upper peninsula is on east coast half of his on west coast fascinating look at that cutout of idaho i mean idaho is really struggling i mean they literally

just did i had no idea what's going on with north iregan i don't understand what's going on with that is that the conservative part of the state which part of oregon that's the conservative part There's literally only one part that's not conservative. It's called Portland. Well, it bend, you know, probably is, but it's same with Washington. It's like Olympia, Tacoma, Seattle, liberal. Everything else, conservative. Can we just throw that map up again one more time?

We stood it up because I just want to look at my glorious East Coast time zone. Oh, look at it. It's so good. So perfect. So wonderful. It's just, I mean. what is that even saying play the stephen a when he went after andrew

hell yes well Blake can I at least get you to agree on this that if we do start messing around the times at all that we should also take um take GMT away from London and make make US East Coast time the sort of international standard

for zero I'm torn on that one because Britain is a like benighted country that has become kind of third world but GMT was created by Britain when it was a great country

and I don't know it's like I would rather just like make over Britain and fix it because it's Greenwich because that's where Greenwich is is based on London but what I'm saying is you make you know you you just make like American like AST American Standard Time

and that's or American meantime and that's East Coast and that's zero now and then force everyone else to change their clocks off of us. Wouldn't we just still call it Greenwich Meridian time and we just set it to like Greenwich, Connecticut? There you go. Now we're thinking. Genius. Genius.

Golf of America. This is why we have Blake. This is why we have a Blake. Solomon like wisdom over here. On tap. All right, we should get in to the actual topics here. Let's be serious. want first.

H-1B, H-1B, H-1B. H-1B. All right, okay, we've got to hit the H-1B topic. Okay, so this blew up again. It's kind of blown up cyclically over the past year. But it blew up again this week because President Trump had an interview with Laura Ingram on Fox, and they hit a lot of different topics. But a big thing that came up was H-1Bs because a lot of people have said we should have an

immigration freeze. We should radically cut back H-1Bs. For those who can't remember, H-1Bs are kind of the skilled, the most common skilled worker visa. So a company says there is some skill we can't fill in the U.S. market. We need to bring in someone from overseas. A lot of tech companies do this. Anyway, Laura asked President Trump about H-1B visas, and this came up. Let's play Clip 200. There's never going to be a country like what we have right now. The Republicans have to talk about it. And does that mean the H-1B visa thing

will not be a big priority for your administration? Because if you want to raise wages for American workers, you can't flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers. But you also do have to bring in talent. Well, we have plenty of talented people here. No, you don't. No, you don't.

And I love that after that clip saying we don't have talent, it went straight to a full shot of Blake. Imagine Blake being. Place with an Indian on this stream right now. We must make America, Arizona, Mountain Time. H-1B.

I like H-1B. You only pay me half. I work for half the dollar. You know, Mikey's got it going on when the whole control room This was the Mamdami theme song. Remember, this was the theme song that when Donnie walked off of his, that can't be real. Is that real?

Well, don't you know, when we award, played the clip if you don't believe me. No, it is. It's true. When we award H-1Bs to Indians. Yeah, when we award H-1Bs to Indians, this is when we hand the piece of paper, that's the song that plays. That's the first song that he heard when he got into America. This is what Mom-Dani wants for America. Yeah.

We'll get the clip. I tried to play the song again. How's it go? I knew the song again. How's it go? You should show. No, no, Mikey's got it down. I wanted to hear it.

It's the mom-dani theme. You got to do your mom-doney interpretation. Which one be? Autism alert. Okay. These studios having so much fun right now. Can you, studios, show my image. So from after that, the screen I have up right now,

after that happened, the conservative base lost their minds. After this clip from Laura, Laura Ingram, rather, now there's ABC saying, where is my president? Some MAGA supporters are an uproar over Trump's H-1B visa comments. So this is, I would say I got some of that feedback when we did the show the next day it was like absolutely an uproar the email the emails were ugly for the trump administration and i think like listen if there's an opportunity where we could get rid of h1b altogether and maybe expand the genius visa but actually

ensure that their geniuses i'd be open more open-minded that conversation but the way that this the comment the the the the communication came off it was it was kind of rough it was kind of rough saying we don't have talent yes we don't we don't we don't no but um it's it's genuinely interesting because the h1b has like bounced back and forth a lot

and like the truth is is America does have a talent issue the problem is that it's actually significantly created by H1Bs and you know there's a lot of good stuff pointing this out like a reason not as many people are going into STEM fields, as you'd call it, is, like, we lowered the wages for it because we brought in so many H-1Bs in certain fields. And another thing we did is we screwed up the

education pipeline. Like, for example, getting a PhD in something like computer science, something like physics, something engineering-related. Way fewer Americans are getting PhDs in that. Why is one the reason they do that? Well, a huge number of foreigners are willing to do those PhDs for, like, very low pay while you're getting the PhD. Well, why do they do that? Because you can come to the US, study to get a PhD, and in addition to whatever money you're getting, you can get a visa to live and work in America

at the end of it. And so effectively, they get paid way more while they're studying because they're getting something hugely valuable, which is US citizenship or a path to citizenship as a side effect of it. So basically, you've made it, so you're getting paid way less if you're an American getting a PhD at a school in America.

Same thing with the H-1B thing. And on top of that, we make it lower status because we've kind of signaled, oh, like certain fields are things tons of immigrants do. And being a fresh off the boat immigrant worker is not as high status as working in various other high-powered fields. So unsurprisingly, Americans have gone into jobs, like finance, like law, like consulting,

that have fewer immigrants in them. A lot of those jobs, you need to know English a lot more fluently than you do in hard STEM fields. So we basically just massively borked our own skill pipeline. And then they turn around and they're like, oh, Americans just don't want to do these jobs. Or Americans are too dumb to do these jobs. And it's like, no, we just actively screwed them up.

And if you look at the America that landed a man on the moon, yeah, there were some immigrants who worked at NASA. There were some immigrants who worked on the Manhattan Project. But 95 plus percent of that workforce was grown in America and we have a perfectly smart population to continue doing that we just chose not to subscribe to my newsletter yeah i i actually totally agree with this but i also i think it's more like soft incentive structures so yeah you could look at wages you could look at this and that but what what's probably what i've seen and i've talked to one of the things i would do when we'd

go on these campus tours i've talked to people like hey why don't you pursue that and some of the more honest kids would just be like well listen like it's all like indians and chinese kids that are in those classes there's something about wanting to be around people that you recognize and that you relate to and when you when you want is you're an american kid now and you want to go be an engineer you want to be a uh you know go into these stem fields and you look around you're like that none of them are like me it must not be for me there's like it's almost like a subconscious yeah conclusion you reach pretty immediately we're like this is not for me yeah i actually remember touring UC Berkeley as a rower and I was I was going around the campus and I remember eating at the

dining hall and it was just like all Chinese students and that went through my head I was like I don't know if I want to go here I just this doesn't resonate with me like these are literally all foreign like Chinese it just doesn't feel like me yeah it's just not it feels un-American it feels like you have to like you're studying abroad just at UC Berkeley yeah I think that has more to do with it real quick here though do you guys know the facts 70% of H-1B visa holders come from which country? Where's the song?

70% 70% Let's get the number up to 80! I don't think we have a song for this one. 10 to 15% of H-1Bs come from China? China. Yep.

Where's our... We have any China? China music? You have like a little That's not quite Not quite Thanks Caboos And 80%

Let me just Let me just say To anyone Who thinks that the Chinese have the ability to take over They're certainly not taking over this country

They're certainly not taken over this podcast And another thing I think They're all They're sure To them in China, and then they can

say, what is that? Is that one of those soundboard things again? When the control room is laughing that we can hear them through the glass. The control room is out of control today. The soundboard is definitely killing all the bits we're trying to do tonight. Oh, it's great.

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Private student loan debt relief, Y-Refi.com. How about this, though? J-D. Vance is, I think he's sounding a better tone, if you will. This is a little bit longer clip, and, well, that's all right. All right, let's go to clip 186. Let in about a million legal immigrants into the United States of America every single year. And I think the evidence is pretty clear that a lot of the... of those immigrants are actually undercutting the wages of American workers. It's one of the reasons

why the President of the United States, it's one of the reason why the President of the United States and a lot of us in the administration have encouraged H-1B reform, because if you look at the H-1B visa, what it's supposed to be, what it's supposed to be, is that you have a super genius who's studying at an American university who's working at a great company. You want that super genius to stay in the United States of America and not go somewhere else. What it's actually used to do is hire an accountant at a 50% discount to an American citizen. I don't think that we should be hiring accountants from foreign countries when we've got accountants right here in the United States

that would love to work for a good wage. Always on the money. Huge. Let's go. End the scams. Get it out. End the scams. I think that's where we all kind of come on this issue because you had Trump kind of sounding a different tone. But that was connected to this 600,000 Chinese student vans. visa holders also. And I have to read into this a little bit. So the timing of this interview, and then you have this press conference with Cash Patel, basically was it the next day or two days

after, saying that China has agreed to cut off all these precursors to fentanyl. So the sympathetic greeting here is that Trump was trying not to scuttle a deal that was in the process of happening and wanted to send friendly vibes to President Xi. Yeah, but I think you've got two different problems here, and that is the argument about, hey, do we want to have immigration for manual labor jobs? The jobs that actual Americans likely do not want to do, right? Now, will they adjust if they have to? Maybe. But I think J.D.'s point, like, if we're talking about accountants, like, that's a good paying job that Americans would be very happy to have. I just think they're two very different conversations, and I think J.D. understands how to

package that in a way. Because when people hear that, it's not, oh, hotel work. It's not sanitation. It's not landscapers or farmers. It's legitimately, you know, somebody that's making close to six figures a year as an account. Well, but I think the base, and maybe Blake, Jack, you guys have a different take on this. I think the base is so sick of immigration that they just, they want like moratorium. Full moratorium. They want H-1B's gone. They will, even if I say genius visas. That's, that's a big part of it. It's that like, yes, you can come up with a justification for almost everything they do. Yet, we've heard these explanations for decades,

and the clear, long-run result is basically great replacement and tons of scams and just this general displacement of the American people. And as I was saying, a lot of where we're dependent on immigration, or immigrants are doing the jobs Americans won't do, it's like actively because we brought in so many immigrants. Like, there's a recent, I saw a recent article

where a ski resort is claiming they need to bring in foreign workers, I think guest workers, in this case to be ski bums at a ski mountain because no one in America is willing to ski spend winter skiing to be a ski bum no one in America and like they'll probably do this for lifeguards at like nice beaches because no one in America is willing to work as a lifeguard we'd never had a super popular TV show about Americans doing exactly that like we have actively messed up so many pipelines into work like you know people will complain Americans don't do summer jobs anymore and yet we've actively kind of foreignized all of the jobs that young workers

would do and we just we like messed everything and also we changed our college admissions so they require all this BS and you're not supposed to be working a job you're supposed to be doing your BS for college admissions it's just absolute lunacy and like you look at that and say yeah sorry we've gotten addicted to this bad thing the way you fix the addiction is you go cold turkey we got hooked on of the heroine of Hindus, I guess, in the case of H-1Bs. Yeah, and it's literally like, it's, well, I guess you would say poppy in that case. But it's, it's literally just like we've become worshippers of the GDP. Like, do conservatives actually care about conserving anything other than the GDP?

Like the social order or the social fabric or patriotism or our Christian background. or our heritage or any of these things like like you you talk to some of these guys it's literally they're like oh GDP GDP GDP first of all the GDP doesn't even exist it's like it's like an economic model it's not like a theory you can't go out and like take your portion of the GDP and invest it in the stock exchange the GDP is not a real thing like it's it's literally it's literally not real bro um so you know what is real is economic conditions you know what else is real is quality of life and cost of living and all of these things are real And the GDP is not.

There are certain businesses that are doing well. There are certain segments of the population that are doing well, typically older segments. But no, it is not good for everybody out there. And worship of the GDP is going to destroy the Republican Party, the conservative movement, the MAGA movement, and ultimately the United States of America. And I just want to be very clear about this.

I don't know how ginkie shir-f unquay. So I just want to make sure everyone understands that. Yeah, but I think the question is, do we really want... I don't understand a word of it. Do we really want a full moratorium and are people ready for the growing pains that are going to come from that? Yeah, there's going to be a lot of economic disruption if we did a full... Oh, the libertarians coming out now. Cliff's libertarians coming out.

Listen, I've been radicalized on this in a good way. You guys would be proud of me. But, no, I think those growing pains would be a little tougher than people think. Oh, they'd be... Here comes. Here comes. We don't know. We don't have... According to Ein Rand.

We don't have the intestinal foreman. fortitude is a country to put up with it. And the reason is is that our media landscape would absolutely revolt. So everybody that everybody this is half the problem with our current dynamic. We can't have nice things because the media tells us that everything's in disarray. Trump is screwing everything up. All hell's breaking loose. And really like if you're just like driving to work and driving home, hanging out of your kids, you have no idea what the heck they're talking about. But then you get on social media and you just like, everything's crazy and everything's awful. Oh. And we would instantly reverse course. And then weak reports.

Republicans in the House and, you know, Rand Paul would would start saying we need to pass law to make it so that, you know, people can't do X, Y, Z. I mean, that is the truth. We do not have the ability to take dramatic action, it seems, in very many ways at all, actually. And it takes essentially a decade to shut the border down. That's what it is. It took a decade of us having one of the most dramatic political fights of Trump's 1.0, his exile, and Trump 2.0 for us to finally as a country go, okay, we probably don't like this. We're going to actually shut it down. Otherwise, we can't have nice things.

So you can't do H-1B reform. You can't do actual legal immigration reform without building a consensus over about a decade. Because if not, then the media will just tell you everything's awful. And people will believe it. Well, and this debate reminds me of the big Trump moment at the first debate against Hillary, or one of them in 2016, where he says, you know, the famous line,

Well, you've been in office for 40 years And you know how I know you're not going to change the tax code Because of your donors Your donors Do very well Yes, that's what I do well into the tax code too But he knows this whole thing And Dave Chappelle

There's a whole bit about how he was like What did Trump just say? Like that's speaking for the people Yeah That's the battle right now Which is you're going to have tons of CEOs Business owners, different people That are going to be pushing the president

in the administration to actually come out and say, listen, we need workers at our hotels. We need workers in the farms. And then you have the base of America First saying, no, we want no more of this immigration stuff. We want to pause it.

And I think those are the two forces. I think it's corporations. Corporations are the ones that... Yeah. It's easy to blame the corporations, but kind of an interesting thing I was reading just a few days ago that got pointed out. It's another way that H-1B stuff actually has screwed everything up and it's if you look at it actually squares

with some of the economic turbulence people I've talked about lately where if you look at the economic data things are still pretty good if you're an older worker like an established professional the economy is kind of humming along fine there's actually a good number of job openings where it's really bad is entry-level workers the workers just out of college and yet they're still saying we need to bring in a bunch of foreign workers because they can't fill jobs and And it's kind of true, because where we have a bottleneck is specifically entry-level jobs.

And this is partly a product of what Charlie would love to talk about, which is college being a scam. You don't learn useful things in college. Even if you're studying a technical field, you don't really learn how to do the jobs in that field getting that degree. You learn those by getting entry-level jobs in that field. You learn to be a programmer by being a programmer.

You learn to be an engineer by being an engineer. You learn to work in media by working in media. of those things you need to get an entry-level job and those are bad and there are the availability of those is bad and but yet there's like kind of it's almost a meme that there's like infinite jobs out there that require five years experience and something and what we've gotten ourselves into here is we've gotten ourselves into this H-1b situation where companies have like very little incentive to provide training to like provide that sort of thankless on-the-job

training for people because then a employee can just leave And so they just decide everyone should just already know how to do the job when we're going to hire them. Oh, no, Americans know how to do this. Let's just bring in more H-1Bs. So, like, an actual policy thing we need to do is we need to make it so a company has an incentive to just train new people to do their job. And it's not like we're unable to do this because we actually have a pretty big institution in America that is able to train Americans to do jobs. Even kind of dumb Americans, even Americans who, like, might only have a high school education and we still need to train them to do technical things. And it's called the U.S. military. The U.S. military trains random people of below average intelligence

all the time to do complex stuff. And honestly, I suspect the reason is just because they can sign you up for four years and you just can't leave, you can't quit, you get in trouble if you leave. Like, you know, there's an IQ test when you join the military, right? Yeah, but is that demanding, Jack? Well, yeah. There's literally nuclear engineers in the military. Yes.

But there's also, like, guys with no college degree. I bet not every single guy on a submarine needs to be that smart to work on the nuclear submarine. Well, you are if you're working in the nuclear power plant. Maybe, but it's probably not as smart as you need to be to get a PhD in nuclear engineering. There are people with PhDs in nuclear engineering in the military lake. There are, there are.

But I bet you don't need to have one to work on the nuclear submarine, including in the nuclear stuff. you do just military trains people do complex stuff all the time the point that i'm making is that actually there is a sorting process when you join the military so that they test people's intelligence which is kind of like illegal in like every other field i know we've talked about this before um where they actually can you know they do sort people by intelligence and they say okay you know you're this type of age range called the asvap on the illicit side so you're you're in this age, you know, age range, um, IQ range.

So we're going to put you here. You're going to be over here. You're going to be here, et cetera, et cetera. And it's something that actually works, you know, when it's done with the right, um, you know, when you take like the DEI quotients and all that randomness out of it, it actually can be used really, really well because you can find like certain people just don't have what it takes to be a nuclear engineer. And in fact, you can test that, uh, while while testing someone's intelligence, you don't have to just like put them through the pipeline and see what happens. And so I, I think it's actually, actually something that we should look to as, you know, probably a pretty good model for, you know,

just the rest of these things that we're talking about. Like, for example, I don't know, the workforce. You know, what's interesting as well is that this is brought up, brought back up Vivek Ramoswami's Christmas, saved by the bell, infamous tweet. And you know what I didn't realize is that that tweet, that original one, that it caused all that kerfuffle in December, has a hundred and twenty-five million engagements on on x and twitter huge throw up uh image throw up image 345 and this is a uh this was a a snippet of it he says the reason top tech companies often hire foreign born and first generation engineers over native americans isn't because of an innate american IQ deficit a lazy and wrong explanation i don't know

who was suggesting that it was an IQ deficit. So that was interesting. A key part of it comes down to the C word, culture. Tough questions demand tough answers. And if we're really serious about fixing the problem, we have to confront the truth, all caps. I mean, do we think that the American culture, Blake, you're saying that the H-1B problem is self-perpetuating,

that it creates its own problem when we drown out certain industries with foreign-born workers, American workers, either get priced out or they no longer go into those fields because they're looked at as foreign based fields. Is there an innate culture problem that we have? I think culture to some extent is created by, it's almost an unintended side effect of a bunch of choices we make. And you know, it's often commented one of the issues, one of the things people complain about with H1Bs is they will say like a company will let in a few H1Bs, maybe, a lot of them are from specifically India,

and then over time, it just gets more and more foreign, and eventually it's like a foreign shop. Well, that's a real cultural issue, because you probably reach a tipping point there, where if it's 75% people of foreign origin, now it's like, why would I want to go work there, where a lot of the guys, maybe they don't even talk in English when they're in the office, they prefer to speak a different language.

It's just very alienating. They may sort of see you in a hostile way. There's all of these dynamics that go on. And then when that happens at a society-wide level, you eventually have a different country. And when you're doing this to important skilled fields, which a lot of the stuff that we do with H-1Bs is important stuff that's important for our most sophisticated

and advanced and technical companies, you're messing up the whole country. And we have, because we've made it so easy to bring in foreigners for those highly technical fields, We've basically deskilled the American population in a way that's really damaging. And I think what we're focusing on the H-1Bs a lot, because that's been the meme, that's what people talk about.

But I think we also have that other Trump clip with the 600,000 Chinese students. I think it's as bad there. The fact that we've made it so easy for colleges to bring in more foreigners to fill their PhD programs, I think is a huge issue. And a big reason the colleges do it is just so they can pay.

PhDs less to be adjunct professors. It's absolutely insane to me that we would devalue PhDs for Americans, like super highly skilled work, just so that, you know, freaking Tufts university can pay an adjunct professor $40,000 a year instead of $55,000 year or whatever amount it is. I think you just hit on something that's actually, it's the college scam that's behind a lot of this because the universities can't pay full. Native-born students don't pay full freight. Guess who does? The Chinese students.

And they'll pay full freight, not at the top universities. They'll pay it at the B and the C-list universities. So that's happening a lot. A lot of these student visa problems, when you talk about this clip, 600,000 Chinese students, they're coming over, and they're basically keeping the lights on at a lot of these universities. Yeah, yeah, excellent take. And then on top of that, just to defend Trump a little bit,

the president, our universities are failing our students here in America. Like we're just not producing the type of students that can qualify for jobs like this. And instead of it actually being like an in-depth PhD or degree, it would be the sociology and understanding of accounting for lesbians. And these are like the degrees that you're getting instead of actually like producing good students or trade schools, which is what Charlie used to advocate for. Let me make, I don't think I've ever talked about this, before I got in politics, I was a math teacher.

Do you guys know that? I don't know if I've said on the air. Mr. Maloney, those were the days. You would be a great math teacher. It was a lot of fun. Here's a really interesting thing. I was teaching in like central western Pennsylvania and I had one Chinese student. Now he has since graduated.

Wait a minute. That's not true. They don't teach math in Pennsylvania public schools. Okay, let me get to the punchline. So this is fifth grade. and I just always remember this cultural moment where and this is so this is such a bad stereotype his family owned like the one Chinese restaurant in town is a very white town yes and I went there one time for dinner after school a couple buddies of mine from college and I walk in and he's

literally in my fifth grade class and I you know he comes running up says hello hey Mr. Maloney and his parents were very happy to see me but they made it very clear that he was not to be interrupted until his homework was done and he had to finish the homework before he could eat and I just, that was such a cultural moment for me I know it's like very much like

the stereotype moment but you think that's happening with any type of American born student I mean yeah there are some great parents out there doing good things but the cultural difference is just you can see it and I think the discipline that a lot of these cultures

have we just we don't have it as a whole we really don't and by the way they're poor of the poor they're not like you know people that are very well to do sending their kids to some great school so i don't look at it like that because if you look at it like that with with you know let's say white americans or you know your everyday blue collar american i think it's even worse the lower you go in the socioeconomic status is because there's just no it's such a lack of discipline that the other cultures have well to your point it's kind of depressing if you throw up image 239. This is UCSD's math two course teaches grade school math. That's grades one through eight to freshmen. So it's UCSD. UCSD is ranked as the nation's fifth best

public university. And so 25 per students got this problem wrong. Seven plus two equals blank plus six. What is that? What is that? Cliff. I'm not a biologist. So seven plus two equals blank plus six. Let me see the box. Let me zoom in here. You can't, dude, seriously? No, he's a math teacher. There he goes.

Is it three? 61% of students, a large majority, couldn't round 374,518 to the nearest 100. That would be 374,500. It's been many years since Mr. Maloney's. 37% of students. Hold on, for the record. I'm just kidding. I knew the answer is three. They're going to clip that and lose my license.

Zoom in. It was, you didn't have your spectacles on. There you go. 37% of students couldn't subtract fractions. So this is like to, you know, I mean, I look at this and I have no problem. I can subtract fractions. But that does suggest at a top five public university in the country that majorities of students couldn't round to the nearest hundred. Yeah, and listen, math is going to be our biggest problem because if you miss a couple history lessons, but you know, get engaged later in life. But this suggests that it's different. This is, this suggests that the problem is arising in high school and middle school and elementary school. Well, the problem is, it's so many levels. And especially with the UC schools, what's not kind of being talked about with this going viral, but we 100% know it happened. So California bans race-based affirmative action officially under their law due to that thing in the 90s. tried to get rid of it in 2020. And in the same election where they went for Joe Biden by 30 points or whatever, they failed.

They failed to repeal that. It was very funny. They tried to ram it through. And everyone was like, no, I don't like racial discrimination. So the UC system, what they do is they just try to scam this system, because what they do is they have the data for who goes to different high schools. And they just start letting people in who are totally not

qualified for certain schools if they go to the right high schools. And a big reason they do this is they, I'll just say it, they want to increase the Hispanic percentage at a lot of the UC schools. So UC San Diego has just been caught where they're freezing out. Ole! Jack is totally checked out. No, they're freezing out. I actually think Cliff is wrong.

I am wrong? Yeah, no, put that question back up. The original one. No, it's seven plus two. Seven plus two? Yeah, it's not the right answer. It's not the right answer. Throw it up.

Throw it up, studio. It's not the right answer. Nine equals what's plus six. It's very obvious. It's very obvious that the right answer is. I can't believe you guys can't see it. It's right on your faces. Fill in the box.

Oh, is it 15? I can't even see the screen. The correct answer is obviously, the correct answer is obviously 6-7. 6-7 right there. Let's get into PEMDUS. Dive in. 6-7. Let's go.

Shame. I really thought my career was over. I was literally like, I was like, we're going to have to edit this whole thing out, aren't we? We're going to just take the stream down to save Cliff Maloney's career. Mikey, these boomers don't get it. They don't get it. Six-seven. Six-seven.

Oh, I have a seven-year-old. Stop saying six-seven. He's only six, too. It's not funny. oh man okay but angela goes it's live you can't edit it out thanks angelo Andrew's like I'm revealing too much he pops a smoke grenade and disappears so

so Angela brings up a really good point this is I think the crux of the argument here philosophically we it feels like the base is at a at a inflection point right are we going to burn down the or is it still worth trying to reform them? You can reform them. Maybe. By the way, half the chat is saying, I knew he was going to say six, seven. And the other half is like, what is six seven?

Very accurate. Six seven. Six seven. Mikey, you need to explain to everybody. Mikey, it's not funny. He's only six, two. I'll explain, guys. Six seven.

Six seven. That's literally, uh, right? I don't understand how that even caught. It means six, seven. I know. I now, I now no longer support helping Gen Z turn itself around after this meal. Because I have spent time with Mikey. All right.

Shall we, I think we've, we've hit the, we, I don't know if we want to answer that question. Can we save the institutions, Blake? Maybe that's a Blake question. I would probably burn them to the ground. Like when Trump says half our colleges would close if we cut off the Chinese students, good, good. A large number of universities and colleges just should be obliterated. They have become an absolute parasite upon the American body politic. We're making it where to have a normal life, you have to divert four years into a school that we know at this point doesn't teach you many important things.

yet it's like socially required to get married or to have good dating prospects or just to be clubbable. It's clearly become this bizarre thing that has greatly metastasized beyond what it was useful for. It costs a ton of money. It's sucking up actually a lot of talented people who could work in a real field to work instead at places that kind of produce not a lot. And just, no, we need to obliterate these things, blow them to smithereens, be like merit-based. have people get actual jobs again that actually make things that teach useful skills and just we need to we need a cleansing of this country a great cleansing a great purge if you will I'm starting I'm getting a message in now that's pro soundboard throw it out to the

chat I am in the chat by the way what what does the chat think about the soundboard can you understand it do you think it's funny six seven It's still my favorite Yeah All right No that one is good because it's established The Subrero is established The Bollywood is established

Established sounds are good Jack's part of the establishment You gotta watch him I disagree with Blake That I want them to Yeah okay Ein Rang boy Here we go

You These things are never going to end Until they stop getting funded The money is going to be the problem And this is not just Democrat problem This is Republicans as well. We keep funding these higher ed institutions.

And Charlie always said this, and I never realized how accurate he was about the donor class. You asked the donor class, are colleges indoctrinating their students? 100% of them say yes. Then you ask them, are you still giving money to your alma mater? And they all say the same thing. Well, my school, there's a sentimental connection. You see, it's different. It's just like Congress.

Everybody hates Congress, but not their congressmen, right? They're different. We know him. He's a nice guy. It will not implode if we keep funding it with federal dollars, state dollars. That's the only way you end, kind of the charade. The only industry where the cost of the product goes like this and the value of what you're getting goes like this. It's just unsustainable and we keep funding it.

Excellent. So you guys don't disagree. The chat is completely against me. The chat is completely pro soundboard. I have been destroyed. It's over. It's over for posso. POSO is done.

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It's breaking all the rules. You know what it is? He's wearing a suit on thought crime? I didn't even know that was right. It's really tiny. I can't see it. Okay, so this whole Arizona, we talk about time zones. Here's the thing with Arizona.

is that everybody over air conditions everything. And so I'm constantly cold. And it's a problem. Okay? It's cold because you're in a studio. Are you saying you're a little chilly, Andrew? Do you need a blanket? Andrews just throwing barbs.

He's coming after Cliff. He's coming after the soundboard. Mikey, you're next. Andrew is a little bit tooy, whittledy. Andrew is just a little bit cold in the studio. It is very cold in here, though. It's cold. Can someone, can someone get Andrew some hot cocoa?

Do you want the little marshmallows? All right. It is cold. All right. Listen, I think this is a good time to go to the next topic, which is women in the military. Speaking of, speaking of, speaking of room temperature. Speaking of people, we're not talking about your IQ, Jack. Come on, let's get up.

It's very simple. Women are wrong about the temperature. men need the cool men need what's the thermostat at in your house check temperature it is at it is at 68 when i'm home that's cold but something interesting happens when i go to work and come back because i see i see 70 and above i see 72s i see 73s i on occasion see 75s and that simply will not do That simply will not do. We usually keep the studio temperature around 6.7. Yeah, keep it right around 6.7.

I think that's a sweet spot. I keep my apartment at like 78. I actually keep it pretty warm. Jack's reaction. Don't they say that if it's... I need to see Chats' evaluation of this. I don't like that everyone... I need to keep it cool for the production of...

testosterone. Did you know Taylor Swift keeps her thermostat at 80 degrees? Did you ask? Checked out. Checked out. Where did you find that information? Is that before and Traverse? I grabbed. That's the hottest thing about Taylor Swift. You just asked Brock. What does Taylor Swift? No, I was trying to think what's that crazy former Washington Post journalist, the lizard lizard lady? What? Taylor Lorenz. Yeah, she keeps her thermostat at like 86. I can't believe I'm going to admit this on air. So I've been up and down about 100 pounds over my last couple like five years like gaining and losing and i'm probably the lower of where i've been when i was like a big big boy a lot of tasty cakes a lot of sugar in the wawa iced tea um when i was a big boy i mean i would keep it very very cold but it's funny like the

the more weight i lose like when the hotel rooms like i used to be like a 67 six to seven type guy i don't mind it sometimes a 70 or 71 it's not too bad i get cold like i got less on me and sunny is literally the ideal human temperature. I don't understand. Yeah, I don't know. High temperature, no, high temperature is low T behavior. Correct. High temperature is low T behavior. Yes.

72 is not hot. That's California. You're just, you're just every, you know, it's expansive. It's expansive. So the, the hotter you go, the lower the T. Well, I'm, I don't know. I feel like that's not hot.

Like, when did this become hot? I reject the premise. You're like setting the benchmark it like this obscenely cold. Are you saying temperature has no effect on testosterone? I'm saying that 72 versus 68 is 4 degrees and it's not that much. Jack, what do you have to say about

hot tubs? I mean, for limited time only. Like, you set it, you go in, then you get out. Do you like hot tubs, Andrew? Yeah. I'm very pro hot tubs. I literally have the search feature on Airbnb. That's like the one thing I put in. If I'm

going to get an Airbnb, I'd love just that 15 minutes in the hot tub this is new to me because you came and you're like Arizona doesn't have hot tubs that's the one thing I miss about California yeah no it's it's it's weird it's everywhere's got a pool but no hot tubs but that what's funny is that nobody has heating for the pool and like right now what is it November 13th what are we at right now and it's too cold to go in the pools without a heater heated pools in my opinion unless you want to go you're saying in Arizona yeah Arizona so you really only use your pool during like when it's 120 up or 110 out yeah

that's basically the culture around yeah everybody's got pools but nobody uses them during this time of year and there's no hot tubs to you i do a cold plunge in charlie charlie used to get addicted to coles charlie was big on cold plunges but and then he stopped no he stopped because it screwed up his central nervous system yeah he was like he was like spikes cortizone levels if you don't do it right he got so it was actually it was he was doing too much right it was uh he's doing a little too much no who who inspired him tony robbins Tony Robbins Tony Robbins Tony Robbins Tony Robbins Tony Robbins Tony Robbins Tony Robbins Tony Robbins Tony Robbins inspired him. So he met with Tony, and Tony told him,

you should do this. It's really good. So he got really into it. And then all of a sudden, he started having this medical condition where he couldn't. Remember he was like, it was almost like vertigo. And in the doc,

so he goes to all these specialists. What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you? Because, you know, Charlie's got a very active life. He's speaking. He's doing this. He's got to do this and that. And then all of a sudden,

he couldn't stand up and he just had to basically sit down. And it was, they identified that it was probably, most likely the cold plunges that were screwing up. Do you remember this? Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Maybe it was something else. Yeah. No, you're right. Anyway, so I've never even delved into the cold plunge because A, it sounds terrible, but B, when Charlie had those issues. Because he was starting to tempt me. I was like, oh, man, maybe I need to start with cold showers or something in the morning. Do you guys do cold showers in the morning?

Everybody says you got to do cold showers in the morning. No. No. No, I don't do that. All of these things, I'm going to go back to where it was. Almost all of these things are memes. because people, yeah, they're woo-woo. Just people want to think there's more super hacks that they can do.

And so they come up with strange nonsense. We're like, yeah, cold plunges. They just don't. If you like a cold plunge, I guess go for it. But they don't do that much. Cold showers. No. Mikey's disagreeing over here, Blake.

Black pill Blake added again. Blake used to disagree with Charlie about all this stuff. Like supplements. Yeah. Yeah. I told them the cold plunges were dumb. and then Charlie had to quit doing the cold plunges. And I told him something didn't do much.

Charlie was literally the most healthy. Charlie had all this weird health. You know this is true. Charlie was always complaining about weird stuff. He got vertigo for like two weeks one time. Well, that's what we're talking about. He had like some like back issue or whatever. Charlie had like endless weird minor health issues.

Because he worked harder than anybody else. Well, you know where he actually got the back problems from? You know what he got the back problems from? I was actually with him in Los Angeles when his back like gave out. but what it was he was running like 10 or 12 miles this might have been before he also slipped on black ice guys well so he was running like 10 to 12 miles a day and then and then he was flying commercial like all across the country across the country he would have like four commercial flights a day every single day like every single day and then run find a way to run 10 to 12 miles in a day yeah and it was just too much and eventually his back just gave out at like 27 his back was toast yeah yeah he was was the most healthy person. I'm telling you. How tall?

Period. Almost 6.5. Yeah, we're the same height. I didn't know that. I don't think people understand this is such a first world problem. But being 6.5 and having to fly, I did not fly four flights a day. But I probably fly like four or five flights every week, depending on what I'm doing. It is so taxing.

And like you can't complain the people that are not 6'5 because they just think like I'm just being a pain. But it's like when my legs are lodged into the seat in front of me, flying across the country like it is miserable and like you can't even today flying here i can't sit up straight because the the cushion like for your head where it breaks you can pull it up a little bit but like it's on my shoulder blades so you have to sit hunched it's just horrendous you got those viking jeans bro so um uh this is something that happens by the way cliff i know about this because producer fuzz um people know he used to uh he used to you know we don't talk about a ton but he used to work with a lot of pro wrestlers and a lot of those pro wrestlers end up with

that like bow-legged sort of odd walk where they're doing that and it's it's people assume it's because of the wrestling but it's actually because of the flying is according to wow according to our producer that it's because they're flying so much yeah he's here in the chat and he's just saying that like like when you see holkogen right before he died obviously a lot heart issues there but um you know all the flying all the driving and that you're exactly right it's that cramped up yeah there's a photo of like andre the giant i think um you know flying and he's like taking up the whole row basically and it's just it's yeah when you're that big cramped up for so long for so many hours it does mess you up yeah back to charlie he was a million

miler on every single airline he was always in a car he was always driving across the country he was always so you i want to wonder why you had back problems that's why wow did you know so faz is kind of like going off in the chat right now throw out this image studio this is uh one of those cryo uh cryo freeze chambers freeze cryotherapy those are great so it burns three minutes of cryotherapy will burn 800 to a thousand calories that's right because of the energy your body expends uh get trying to get you get you back to a normal temperature that woo-woo Blake? Yeah, that kind of sounds like woo-woo to me.

I'm going to guess it's probably fair. Blake's going to say anything's woo-woo. You can literally ask anything. So the thing that always strikes me about Charlie's health regimen, though, was all the hot sauce. Like, that can't be too much hot sauce. Charlie Wood loved sauces. He put sauces on everything. Yeah.

He had like a sauce collection that he traveled with everywhere he went, and it was in a separate bag and it was I'm not even kidding like 15 different sauces and he knew the different combinations he's like with my chicken I do two green one red and it was good too Charlie was like wait hold on hold on okay hold on I'm now I'm now on the cryo bar cryotherapy this is a blog post they made from 2020 does cryotherapy burn calories and they say the burning of calories is unfortunately one of the lightly researched benefits of cryotherapy so they basically say you know it might happen maybe you guys big on hot sauce yeah i i ever one love yeah i love hot sauce so i was like the most irish meat and potatoes like plain guy no spices and then i got covid in florida which covid didn't really happen in florida but i did get it and uh i got covid i lost all of my like you know i couldn't taste anything and so the only thing i could get a reaction from this how you know i'm and

eater my fat boy was using hot sauce because the hot sauce would at least give you something where you could get you know something out of the food i i eat a lot of hot sauce so apparently i'm low tea because i like the the thermostat at 72 but i'm high tea because i can i can eat a lot of hot sauce i can yeah i know it's it's the mexican you know that's so funny like ever since like everything happened and like i have to be on tv more or whatever it's like all these people are like he's he looks jewish he looks super jewish and then the other ones are like because of this show they're always like oh he's quarter mexican so you know yeah yeah there it is how does it make you blake is in the chat just saying woo woo it's all everyone just they all want

they all want to come up with these like weird expensive medical hacks that they'll say solve everything do these like extreme benefits it's the same thing they do with food where you're like oh i have to go to this special grocery store where all my food costs twice as much, and then it gives me, like, super health, and I'm going to live forever. All that sense. You just have to do the basics.

It's all the basics. I love this. Blake, you'll eat a box of 12 crispy cream donuts. Yeah, and it's great. Yeah, just hit your freaking protein thresholds, lift weights. Yeah, like, what's your bench, Mikey? What is it?

Blake, get out of here. Yeah, he's going after everybody. Yeah, but who looks better? Oh, yeah. Okay, okay, we're discussing testosterone levels, and you know what causes male pattern baldness. That's right. And only one of us has this winding tape here.

Only one of us has one of these. You do look good, Blake. Yeah, well, all right. Cliff is coming in. Yeah, Cliff. Blake, you weren't on when Jack called me out on live television saying that I need to shave my head. Very nice friend that Jack is what it can be.

You should. increase your power level. However, however, I also took Blake to a bar and we met that nice Mexican cop and he was telling Blake that he should go to Tijuana to get a hair transplant. Where's the music? He did. Oh, man. I forgot about that guy. That was really funny. Blake, what do you have a hair transplant? Send Blake and Cliff down to T.J. for the hair transplant. We filmed the whole thing. Guys, I, like, we're sitting on money here. that's a bunch of woo-woo It probably is

I refuse to believe He took his hat off And he showed like his giant full head of hair And he's like I He's like yeah I used to look like you Till I went down to Tijuana And there

I got now I look like this Like you could benefit from this Oddly enough He looked exactly like Andrew Huh Everyone's like Everyone's trying to rag on me For various things

that I'll eat anything and I don't do all their health woo-woo and I just feel like I'm really healthy and I don't have all these like weird other problems that people complain about. My main problem is I somehow got like tennis elbow while I was in South Korea and I don't know how that one happened.

Body inflammation because you're not eating enough Yeah. Yeah. Good things. Someone in the chat was saying I wonder what Charlie is thinking of your topic. I'm not even sure our topic is right now. No women in the military. Yeah, we were supposed to talk about, we were supposed

to talk about women in the military, which they shouldn't be. Just kick them out of the military. Have them clip that up on patron takes or whatever. I feel like libertarian Cliff is are you, wait, can I ask you a question

on that? Are you, do you still consider yourself libertarian? Don't want us to have a military at all. So it's funny, Charlie, I always used to tell people that Charlie would actually be one of the, I think I said this on thought crime a couple weeks ago, but Charlie, when you would go he actually would be tough at interview,

especially when I do his show when it was a one-on-one, you know, where he'd just be like, what's going on in PA, like digging it on the numbers? I don't know when it was. It might have been election night. I mean, we were on for what, eight hours, but he asked me at one point, he said, you know,

how does a Ron Paul libertarian go from that to running a ballot chase effort for Donald Trump? And he got mad at my answer, so maybe I shouldn't say it in terms of he thought maybe we'd get demonetized or delisted, whatever it is. but I said, yeah, I'm still a hardcore libertarian. I have my own definition of what that is, small L,

but things change when they start to chop the private parts off of our 12-year-old boys and girls and consider it normal. There became a breaking point where, like, the things that, do I believe in free markets, do I believe in free trade? Yes, but like you have to look at things in reality, not theory. This is where Jack will be proud of me for, being okay with certain protections that Ayn Rand would not be

But I think a lot of the culture stuff Just made it where it was like We got to be in this fight Like there's so many libertarians I know out there That want to sit on the sidelines They want to complain They want to say hey, you know That doesn't pass our purity test

Do you want to say the country or not? And so, yeah, I have a lot of beliefs that, you know, a lot of Republicans in Congress You know, a lot of this spending stuff I got a lot of problems with it But I think 2024 was like the country was on the brink. And I still

feel that way. That's why I'm still doing a lot of America first candidates. And, you know, I would define myself as America first. That's probably the best label I would use. But I just think to people that sat out in 2024, it's like you've got to open your eyes. Like that was the battle. And we have the battle now, I feel like, every

single year moving forward. Did that suffice? Yeah, that will say. No, that's helpful. Although it doesn't answer the question about women in the military. Well, let's play clip 282 and it'll kick us off. 282. No more social justice, no more political correctness, no more toxic ideological garbage that infected the department. No more identity months, no more DEI offices, no more dudes in dresses.

No more climate change worship, no more division, no more delusions, gender delusions or quotas, no more distraction. As the chairman of the Joint Chiefs puts it, Pete, you're clearing out the debris. And then CNN reacting, 283. What Pete Huggseth has done, he has pushed women almost completely out of the top ranks of the military. He has. He has. Women are 18% of the U.S. military right now. There are now no members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who are women.

Despite the fact that women are the majority of the population and 18% of the U.S. military, there are zero women on the Joint Chief of Staff. In fact, every member of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff right now is a white male. white men are 29% of the population isn't possible that white men are the only people in the world in this country who are qualified to be on the Joint Chiefs of Staff that's the assumption I guess that Pete Heggseth wants us to believe

Hmm I think Jack him sound awesome Jack you first For the record that's not what Pete said at all It's just just that already said That's a really good point

When he says gender delusions he's talking about transgenderism. He's not talking about getting rid of women. And that's just accurate, right? That's just accurate to what he's saying. So, you know, you have to set the frame here. And the frame is that they're just lying about what Secretary Heggseth said. He's talking about getting rid of the political nonsense in the military,

pitting genders against each other, gender quotas, just all of this nonsense. And so it's the idea here, right? The idea here is, you know, make it so now, that being said, that being said, I would say it's simple as this. Why do we have male female standards for combat MOSs, for combat jobs, for combat duties? Why do we have male female standards for different, you know, in those critical capacities? Why do we have those? If you are going to be in a, you know, in the infantry, if you're going to be in special forces, if you're going to be in EOD, any of these capacities, right, any of these serious combat capacities, combat units, you've got to have the same standards. It's as simple as that. Because guess what, right? If you got to pull your buddy out from under fire and you can't lift a 200-pound man with, you know, who's loaded with another one- hundred pounds of gear, then guess what? You're a liability. You're a liability to your unit.

You're a liability to the fight. You're a liability to the mission. You're a liability to the country. And that's something that, by the way, doesn't just cover gender. That's something that would cover people with various health conditions. People, but all sorts of, there's all sorts of reasons that people are denied for certain jobs and certain positions or even entry into the United States military. You know, a lot of people know, I think if you had like childhood asthma and you tell the recruiters that you pretty much can't get into the military. So I mean, there's lots of reasons that we preclude people from the military or certain positions within the military. And I think at the end of the day, what it comes down to is we need to make this, we just need

to go back to what is the most important point in the military. Is it getting the mission done or is it social engineering? Simple as that. Oh, hold on. We have a, we have a donation from Big Man S-17. I want to read it. He gave us $5.00. We protect women. Women don't protect us. And I'm going to use that to go from there. I like, in general, Jack, I would agree. It would be an improvement to just say you need to hit a certain minimum standard, whether you are male or female, even if that means it's going to be 95% men, 99% men, 100% men. But I might go further and I might say, I do think there's actually probably something wrong with having women in the military generally outside of like truly auxiliary roles, kind of like how we did it in World War II. Like you had wax, you had certain sort of supplementary roles that you just had lots of women work in.

But I do think there's actually something, I think you do lose something once you have women in the infantry, women in the armor, women in, women in, like direct immediate combat situations even if they can pass a certain physical qualification. I just think there's actually a historical reason these roles in every, you know, advanced society, every advanced civilization were basically, for all intents and purposes, a hundred percent male. And I think 100 percent male institutions and like groups have, like they have certain they have a certain dynamic to them that you lose once you're introducing women to them and I think we've seen the side effects of that in our own military once you add women into a group like you're introducing a certain competitiveness element for the men that's not there

otherwise you're you're just changing what kind of you're changing what the team is doing what the way the team works and I kind of think it's it's impossible for us to divorce the way the U.S. military has clearly become less effective as a war-winning organization from the fact that we treat it as like an egalitarian gender organization, even if we set the same standards for the sexes. But I also have never been in the military, so I'm probably over my skis a bit. But I know who is that Virginia senator, the Democrat, is it Jim Webb? I think Jim Webb has actually commented on that.

He also said he supported hazing in the military for that reason. He said once you got rid of hazing, it actually made the military. He's a Marine. Yeah. I'm going to try to find it. I'm going to try to find it while one of a few ways in. Let me comment. I think Jack thinks I'm going to be anti-military.

I believe in a strong military power. Here it comes. Military power. I agree with Jack. Merit based 100%. Why do we have different standards? It's stupid. This isn't about Title IX in sports.

This isn't something we're trying to carve out, something to make it fair for women. We're trying to protect the repulatory. We're trying to save America. If you think the biggest fear is China, which I would say, if we look at other superpowers, you know, who has the potential to really take out America? It's China. Guess what percentage of Chinese military are women?

Four and a half percent. What do we say? What is the clip? 18 percent here in the U.S.? Four and a half in China. Yep. Think about that. Merit-based is 100 percent the right answer.

And I agree. Pete didn't say that. He's talking about like the transgenderes and he's. people that have mental delusions about what sex or gender they are. They should not be in the military, 100% full stop. But this is about winning the war. And if it's merit-based and if it's about skill sets, you don't break that down by gender. You break that down by skills.

Yeah, yeah. And look, Pete Hick-Seth, he's amazing. But also, I had an opportunity to talk with him at the White House a couple weeks ago. And I just told him, I was like, it's a top-down thing. When there's a man in a position like that that's talking like that, it inspires all of the under you know like my brother's in the military he he had to see under the Biden administration there was a gay pride flag on the ship that he was on and then on top of that they had there's a transvestite that was on his ship with him and so I told these stories

to Pete and he was like look when I came in I saw that they were spending hundreds of millions of dollars on recruiting for the military and when I saw where they were spending this money they're spending it on the view and these crazy, crazy leftist television shows and programs. It's like, what do you think that produces? What do you think that produces? And he's like, I shut that down immediately.

It produces transvestites that are on ships. This is not, if China's not doing it, why are we doing it? But it's bigger than just women in the military. Like, there are legit gender delude. Deluded. Yeah, diluted transvestites. De lulu.

Lou. The looos. Yeah. And then on top of that, too, I mean, back to the H-1B thing, and we talked about this on the show, Americans are resilient. Like, we figure it out. And to women in the military, during World War II, women were making tanks and bullets. And maybe that's a role for women in the military.

I just see. I'm with, I agree with everything you just said. I'm glad. I support Pete Heggsett. Jack, you're totally right. What's getting lost in this argument is that's not at all what Pete Hegset said. so first of all it's it's much to do about nothing it's a fake conspiracy fake hoax secondly blake is right male only like fraternities are really powerful there's something culturally

that happens this is what they did the boy scouts they ruin that you you if you're around all boys and you're trying to learn how to climb the rope guess what you're going to fail fail fail fail until you get that right women come in the boy scouts you don't want to fail because you don't want to embarrass yourself in front of the girls there's just things like a lot of things like that happen now are there roles for women in the military that make a lot of sense yeah i think i think you could look at the military the different jobs the different functions and roles and find a bunch of good jobs for them okay when it comes to combat troops when it comes to special ops special forces i mean these are going to be predominantly male anyways even if if you had just a

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We are trying to win wars. We're trying to promote peace. We're trying to have a strong military. But it's just, it's almost sad to me that in 2025, they can still go back to those random talking points of, you see, you know, these blocking people, or he's trying to get every woman out. How about we just hire the best people?

Well, I mean, the quota system, you know, good for you. So, okay, but then we might have to, we have to throw it up, Angelo, So throw up what we're going to have to do if send our best people. Are we going to send Emma and Daisy back to war? We discussed this almost two years ago, I think. The draft our daughter's episode where we were like, well, you know, if we're going to add women to the selective service, we may just have to send our women out.

And Daisy would fit in even more now because she's pregnant. She could wear that pregnant flight suit that they made for the Air Force. but I did find it I found the Jim Webb article which is from 1979 and it's awesome it's titled Women Can't Fight That's the name of it

And I just want to read a little bit of it Because it's really evocative He just opens this way Women definitely argue though They can fight They can argue They can definitely argue But can they fight

And so this is Jim Webb Jim Webb fought in Vietnam For those who don't know him He goes We would go months Without bathing except when we could stand naked among each other next to a village well or in a stream or in the muddy water of a bomb crater. It was nothing to begin walking at midnight laden with packs and weapons and ammunition and supplies,

70 pounds or more of gear, and still be walking when the sun broke over mud-slick patties that had sucked our boots out all night. We carried our own gear, and when we took casualties, we carried the weapons of the ones who had been fit. Hit. When we stopped moving, we started digging, furiously throwing out the heavy soil until we made chest-deep fighting holes. When we needed to make a call of nature, we squatted off a trail or we straddled a slit trench that had been dug between fighting holes, always by necessity, always in public view. We swept in makeshift hooches made out of ponchos or simply wrapped up in a poncho, sometimes so exhausted that we did not feel the rain fall on our own faces. We caught hookworm, dysentery, malaria, or yaws, and some of us had all of them.

And it actually gets, like, more visceral from here. I don't want to read it forever. It's a quite long piece. But he's just saying, like, this is a purely, like, it is a very, very male environment. And I'm going to skip ahead here, and then I'll let you guys react. And what he says is, he says, let me get it here. Men fight better without women around. Men treat women differently than they do men and vice versa. Some of this is induced by society. Some of this is innate because of the desire to pair off and have sexual relations. These tendencies can be controlled in an eight-hour workday. They cannot be suppressed in a 24-hour, seven days a week combat situation. Introducing women into combat units would confuse an already confusing

environment and it would lessen the aggressive tendencies of the units. As many aggressions would be directed inward towards sex rather than outward toward violence. A close look at what has already happened at the Naval Academy during the three years women have attended that institution, our testimony to this. It's an amazing piece. It goes on quite long. It looks like it's almost like 10,000 words long, but it's interesting. I just think we've gotten so used to it.

We've gotten so used to the rhetoric of, yeah, we should just have an equal standard, men and women are different, that we're almost unable to conceptualize what used to be obvious, which is just men and women are so different, and men are so much more suited for military stuff, and men are so different from women that they operate differently with no women around, that we've sort of removed our ability to conceptualize what used to be obvious, which is just the military should be an all-male institution for the most part. Based. Blake, here's the

So Blake, let's get to the real thought crime now because I think we've, I think we've hit this one out. We've talked about women in the military, but what about female police officers? Ooh. You know, like, kind of the same thing, I think. Like, there's a lot of jobs in the police force that are effectively paperwork-based,

but yeah, similar thing. I think it's probably a problem, it's a problem when you have a dispatcher who can't. Yeah, yeah, dispatches, all that. But the average beat cop, a beat cop should basically be able to beat up maybe like at least at the 85th percentile of the people they're going to encounter. And you get real problems when you have officers out there who are encountering violent, psychotic dangerous people and they basically have no way they you know they're if they're at the tenth percentile of physical ability or or the fifth

percentile or less compared to men and let's be real the vast majority of people that they're dealing with are men and they have no nothing to deal with them except other except tasers or their gun and I don't have the data in front of me but I believe female officers are more likely to end up shooting the people they're trying to corral because they have to and if you have an 80 a normal tall cop who's strong, you know, they can just tackle them. They can just use the baton. They can beat them down in other ways.

They don't need to shoot them. But we have this fantasy probably encouraged by television where you know, you have kung fu, women cops who can weigh 115 pounds and take down anyone. That is a fantasy. That is not reality. That is a fake world. And it's the same thing that makes people when they have juries where someone does a shooting that's fatal and you know the jury's like why didn't they shoot them in the leg because that's

not real life in real life you can't just micro aim at specific body parts to disable someone and in real life a 115 pound woman cop is not taking down a you know six foot two crazy guy on PCP ever i have a very simple answer uh a woman that is not able to physically you know arrest somebody or past the standard, like Blake said, should not be a cop. Just like a fat guy, a man who's overweight and is not able to patrol

or to catch somebody should also not be a cop. There's just having a standard. They love the donuts. They love them. Like Blake. Blake is a fat cop or Blake loves donuts? He loves the donuts, but he's not a neck. I can eat as many donuts as I want if I'm not a tubster.

We actually may have some breaking news. I want to see if they can pull this tweet up I just I just threw it in there because it involves us but so the just as we were going live the or you know during the show FBI San Francisco just posted a tweet

saying the FBI is seeking the public's help in obtaining any video or images of acts of violence that have may have occurred during the November 10th, 2025 turning point USA event in Berkeley, California. Video or images can be submitted online, FBI.gov slash Berkeley, TPSA. And if you click it, they've created a tip website specifically for this event.

So this is incredible. The FBI, I mean, I just want to step back here for a second and as horrific and insane as the violence was, the FBI has gone from investigating conservatives, like, a year ago today with arctic frost and turning point and charlie were definitely targets of that to now actually investigating people who are attacking turning point members on camera just what what does he change and by the way please if anyone um you know if anyone can identify there's the website fbi dot go slash berkeley tp u s a this is huge andrew this is huge yeah no and and i already retweeted the fbi i one and uh harmeet dylan assistant attorney general

said, were you at or around the TPSA Berkeley event Monday, November 10th? And she says the FBI San Francisco is seeking digital evidence to support the federal investigation. FBI seeking information on acts of violence at the turning point USA event. And she linked to that same thing. So I actually, during our show, I'd gotten that sent to us. I was going to bring it up. But yeah, this is a, this is a sea change because I think, you know, kind of on a little bit of a different wavelength, Jack, and I think you'd appreciate this, been a lot of consternation. We talked about the H-1B, the 600,000, you know, Chinese visa holders, student visa holders. And there's been this disconnect, it feels, with the administration.

And what you're seeing is you saw, you saw a clip today from J.D. Vance saying that we're going to be surging housing supply. And we're going to be deport. Mass deportations are going to reduce the overall demand side on housing in the United States. So you've got them messaging. now on housing and doing this gen z economic revival plan to get people to buy into the to the economy and then simultaneously there was a lot of pushback after the uc berkeley event you saw some of our friends like uh sernovich basically poking poking the admin right in the eye saying like hey are you guys going to step up or you are is this all talk and you know i think the base was saying like we want action and here you got you got the the administration coming through and and do an active

taking action to defend our students and to stand up against Antifa. And then Marco Rubio's been messaging on it. So there's good things happening. It's all I'm saying. The administration is showing the ability and the flexibility to listen to the base. Very good. So what do you guys think about Christmas lights? Jack.

Christmas lights, Christmas lights before December are unacceptable. What? Christmas lights before Advent. Advent can sometimes start. No. Yes, again. Okay, so I will say that Angela and I were... Like, for example, this year, Advent is, I think, November 27th.

So, Faz and I were talking about how there's just way more people. There's way more people this year putting up Christmas lights on... That's not talking about. Oh, no. Here we go. That's wrong, November 30. November 30. Get some spirit in here.

Yeah. There comes. Pregnant Daisy Well done No no this is good No this is good No this is completely An utterly wrong

No this is great Plug it is Reject Reject Reject You guys You are erasing You are erasing Thanksgiving

You are erasing Thanksgiving You are erasing Thanksgiving Will not stand We need Thanksgiving This is great I have a confession though

I set up for Christmas, November 1st. Oh, wow. No, this is, no, this is unacceptable. That's a disease. That's depraved. Well, that's what I'm talking about. That is a great.

This is in human than you here. They're going to see. No, it's great. 99.99.99 in Phoenix, Arizona's already playing Christmas music. Look, everybody needs a little joy in their life, especially at times like this. There's been a lot of chaos for us. And look, you mean like a Thanksgiving? I will not apologize.

If everyone needs joy in your life, why are you taking, why are you taking a joy out of my life? With this happiness that I feel. I will not apologize. This year we've seen a lot more people set up in October. Or after, after,

it's literally a marketing strategy. It's just marketing for people to buy more stuff earlier, to buy presents earlier, which of course the libertarian probably loves. We, yeah, I wonder if this is as hot of a topic as, Halloween. We should ask people to email Freedom at Charlie Kirk. When do you set up for Christmas?

Or in the chat. The standard is after Thanksgiving. I mean, is that not... Christmas was never a pagan holiday. It was always after Thanksgiving. It is not based on Saturnalia. Thanksgiving's over and then you start setting up for Christmas. Listen, I'm an American and we have an American culture and the American culture said after Thanksgiving

you set up your Christmas lights and you can do all that stuff. I'm with Andrew. Christmas is after Thanksgiving. Also, Advent is the start of the Christmas season. And our house, we keep the tree up from the first Sunday of Advent through the

through Epiphany, basically. Which is usually like early January, correct? January 6th. Jay 6. Is it a fixed? Is Epiphany fixed or is it shift year by year? It's neutered. Pretty sure it's always Gen 6.

Okay. Point is, we now have this abomination in our studio. Because it's 12 days after Christmas. So it's always January sex. This comment said Christmas is up November 1st. I'm with Mikey. Yes, you just

hate America. I mean, if you just hate America. I actually think Mikey's on to something. I think a lot of people have been just like really rocked by this year with what happened to Charlie with just all the kids. People just want something that they like and so they're throwing up the Christmas lights early. Let's get some joy.

No, no, I'm not saying, I'm not saying that Christmas is bad. I'm don't be wrong. But I am saying that like we shouldn't just give away Thanksgiving. Like, why are we doing that? Why would you just throw away one of America's greatest holidays? People like Christmas. I love Thanksgiving. Yeah.

I love Thanksgiving and I will listen to Christmas Jazz in the background as I celebrate Thanksgiving. Actually, I think I know the problem is here. I think I know what the problem is here is that you guys live in a desert where people are not supposed to live and so you don't have seasons, which are where

normal people have. So if you live in a place where there's seasons, It doesn't make sense to have Christmas stuff up when the leaves are changing colors. I agree with this 100%. It's the fall. That's a bunch of woo-woo, as Blake says. Thanksgiving is associated with the fall because it's the harvest. And then Christmas is associated with winter, which is another thing that we have in like normal parts of the world.

And that's when it's cold and there aren't a leaves in the trees. So it wouldn't make any sense for Christmas to be up at the time. But since you guys live in an art. officially created space like the Sun Valley where humanity was never supposed to live God did not intend people live there he first flooded it within ocean

he then put dinosaurs there he then turned it into a desert like he's begging you do not live in this place and you guys just don't want to listen which are based around God's nature don't make any sense when you apply them to a place like that

this person said Thanksgiving is okay but Christmas is King. Team Mikey. Way to hate America. Way to just hate America. Let me, let me actually back Jack up on this. I think there's some nostalgia, especially growing up in Pennsylvania, like it's cold for Christmas, right?

There is the winter. Exactly. There is that nostalgia of like, and I hadn't thought about that since I landed here. It's not cold right now. It's so hot here. No, I got off the plate. No. I mean, it's turning, but it's not like.

The definition for Christmas is cold. There's a lot of places that have Christmas in the U.S. right there. Yeah, but I think that's what Jack's saying I agree with is that it kind of connects in a weird way that's like, I don't know, like when I get off the plane here, how hot is it here right now? He's on fire! Yeah, exactly. I just think there's something about that. I don't know. We are agreeing, though, that the normal timeline across the country is very cold. After Thanksgiving.

It gets very cold here. At night time, it reaches, like. That is the traditional timeline. After Thanksgiving, you set up for Christmas. But you're just admitting that you're not agreeing. No, actually, I disagree. In fact, since I was like 17, my tradition in life has always been. How old are you now? October 31st, at midnight, I play all I want for Christmas. And I continue the tradition to this day.

Please stop playing that song. This is also an American just from a secular perspective because of Black Friday. so black friday is black friday because it is traditionally seen as the first day of the christmas shopping season that's why black friday exists you guys have a lot of talk of black friday but so like like mickey nomics are are in a front to reality and mikeinomics are something that we should completely oppose that be the great peacemaker here our heart body and soul because pretty pretty much everything from mike we should oppose and and it's black friday exists again, because it's the first day of the Christmas shopping season. Here's the difference. Mikey, I think what Mikey is saying is that you can still celebrate Thanksgiving while you're setting up while you're celebrating Christmas. And Jack, you're saying that, no, if you start setting up for Christmas, you're pretty much blunting out Thanksgiving and not giving it its full value. It's Thanksgiving eraser. It's totally Thanksgiving erasure.

It can't happen. I will go to Starbucks tomorrow and enjoy a peppermint mocha. Red food diet. No, see, it's still pumpkin spices. I'm just going to, all right, I'm going to, I'm going to argue with this back to the other way. This is an example. I'm taking this back to the other way. If Christmas is so great, it is pumpkin spice season.

If Christmas is so great, why don't you just have the Christmas decorations up all year? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, why not, Mike? Fun story, though, because it. So on New Year's Eve last year, Charlie and I flew straight to Florida for the transition team stuff and then straight to D.C. So I didn't even, I wasn't able to. take down my Christmas decorations outside and I didn't come back from the East Coast so I basically

was on the East Coast with Charlie for a month and a half almost two months so I didn't take down my Christmas lights until late February this year but hold on this is this is this is so you set up no that's not shameful that's not shameful because candle mess is February 2nd no give me the give me the full timeline of you have these of the piece of the presentation is So some people, like, keep it up until about February 2nd, the Feast of the Presentation of Jesus in the Temple. See, Jack's got my back. I, thank you, Jack. Hey, but I, I'm okay with you having it up for a longer time.

Yeah, Jack, you got to hear it. He's got to answer this, Jack. He's got to answer this. He had my back. What was your full timeline, Mikey of Christmas? About November 10th through February. Got him. Wait, so this is basically, wait, hold on, Mikey.

I just really something. Wait, wait, guys. Mikey's been cuffing. That's what he's doing. This is cuffing season that he's talking about. I'm married. You guys not know about cuffing season?

Are you serious? Oh, gosh. October through March? No. Yes, I do know Cuffing season, 6.7. No, Cuffing season 6.7. Wait, Mike, you know cuffing season. Yes, of course.

Yeah, these guys, the boomers don't know it again. Cuffing season is like, is because during the winter, like during the winter holidays. Mistletoe, baby. people hook up and start like a relationship just so that they can have a date for all these various holidays so they can sit together in the cold and stream stuff together stream movies or whatever TV series is and it's basically like yeah it's like October through Valentine's Day give or take and and then so it means you're handcuffed together that's the whole point you're handcuffed together through all the holidays during this time and then and then the guys who don't know that they were just being cuffed, they realized that after Valentine's Day, they get cut loose,

and they have no idea. This reminds me of baby it's cold outside, the Christmas song. So watch out boys and girls. Watch out, young kings. I really can't stay. Baby, it's cold outside.

Here's a question. My mother will worry. Thanksgiving, do you guys have Thanksgiving parades where you're from? Yeah. Was Santa in the Thanksgiving parade? That was a spell? No, that's Thanksgiving.

The day of Thanksgiving. So you can play Christmas. music on Thanksgiving, you can watch Christmas movies on Thanksgiving because it's like you're ushering in the season. No, you should watch Thanksgiving movies on Thanksgiving. It's a quarter of the year. I mean, listen, the reason you don't do it up. Hold on, Blake, I got to answer your question.

I want to flag this. Go ahead. Go ahead. Well, I was just going to say, we got another donation from a big man S-17. He says, guys, y'all don't even know how much joy. the show brings to my night. I am working almost every day until 1 a.m. It makes my week. All I can say is thank you. My name is Cade, but I can't change my name. He says. Thank you. I like Cade. Cade, you're a patriot. We appreciate you.

So here's why you don't keep Christmas decorations up all year. Even if you're going to be a weirdo like Mikey and do it like after Halloween, here's why. Because variety is the spice of life. it's special because it's a limited time offering only so to Jack's point I like to limit that when if you make yourself wait even longer it gets even more special I think you condense the specialness into a more higher octane

of Christmas specialness that's fine Mikey if you disagree I disagree do you have Christmas decorations up right now in your house yes yeah but that's from last year You're still up. That's great. But it's great.

And lights are outside, too. Oh, I forgot about that baby, it's cold outside, went through all that criticism. The rape undertones. The rape undertones. There's a stand-up. It's just cuffing season. There's a stand-up comedian that does this bit where he talks about how that song got all this,

that's this fire for the undertones. And then it was, I can't say this on air, W-A-P, W-W-A-P, W-W-W-that song. And he read the lyric. to wop and then read the lyrics to that and saying like it's hilarious that we allow wet to whatever should we do that right now i don't think we should not we should wrap before mickey gets pulls up the lyrics uh jack you want to take us home yeah yeah yeah but you dealing with something wet and bring a bucket and a mop bring bucket and a mop for this wet Disgusty.

No, no, no. Give me everything you got. Baby, it's cold outside, not baby. It's wet on the floor. It's disgusting. See, Mac truck. Mac truck reference. And actually, maybe Wap is a Thanksgiving song

because it does have the word gobbled in it. Well, that's good. This would be right about the time where Charlie would be like. Why don't you tweet that Christmas movie? Charlie would be a Thanksgiving movie. He'd be a song. Why not? Why not?

I'll tweet it right now. You think I'm scared? I'll tweet it right now. This is, I mean. Wap should be a thanksgiving song since. Gobble, gobble. Hachtagged it. No, just one gobble.

There's only one gobble. Oh, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, why lyrics imply coercion or pressure to stay, especially the line, say, what's in this drink? I forgot that line in it. I mean, it was 1940s. There

wasn't roofies in the 1940s, was it? Anyways, all right. Jack. No, it's just a guy. He's wooing her. He's wooing her. Yes. He's cooing her wop. He's just wooing her wop. He's just wooing her wop. This is where Charlie would be.

All right Just moving her wop It's all it is All right We're going to go It is Thursday At our new time I'm going to take us home

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