The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 110 — Who Killed Renee Good? OnlyFans Immigrants?

Episode Date: January 10, 2026

The five ThoughtCrime crew members and the recently deposed Nicolas Maduro (really!) discuss the dramatic showdown between ICE and the left in Minneapolis, dissect why the left deliberately sought Ren...ee Good's death, and then respond to the news that America is handing out O-1 "genius" visas to the world's most successful OnlyFans "influencers.' Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:52 The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers. Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to this week's edition of Thought Crime. It is Thought Crime Thursday. And by the way, we are live. So if you've got your Rumble Rants, please make sure to throw those up because we will be reading them. And my lovely assistant, Blake Neff, of course, will be the one reading them.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Blake, how are you? Hello, I'm great. Just remember, the worst your take. the more likely it is that we'll notice and read it. So definitely be sending in those really awful takes like Philadelphia sports fans are great or Philadelphia sports fans are human beings. We're more likely to react to those precisely because of what. We are not human at all.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We are our crushing machines. Guys, look at the top right corner. What in the world is that? Wait. It's a Blake look-a-like.
Starting point is 00:01:58 I don't have a mustache. You're talking about me? What is, is that? Oh, my God. Nicolas Maduro. Oh, Nicholas Mdorow is joining us on thought crime. Well, this is quite a surprise. How do we refer to you?
Starting point is 00:02:17 Ex-president, former president? Do you still identify as president? I'm a decent man and innocent. And the president Trump allowed me to do a one podcast, and he'll say I can do it at a talk crime. And I get taken from my house in Venezuela, and he's taken me here. And I do one podcast, a talk crime. Well, we certainly appreciate that, Mr. President.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Now, Mr. President, what do you say to these allegations that it was your own government that handed you up, that it was your own vice president and your own security forces that basically wanted to get rid of you and sold you out to the Americans. No, they're lying about me. I don't do nothing wrong. I do a number one president in South America. Trump takes me for no reason. And I give it a good oil to the wrong people.
Starting point is 00:03:25 And he gets upset at me. For what? Nobody selling me out. I have number one secret service. as Cubano. Wait, do you have the water bottle in your hands? The one they gave you on the plane? Yeah, he does.
Starting point is 00:03:39 He has that same water bottle. They only give me one. Yeah, and you got to make that stuff last. You got to milk it. Yeah. They take me in Syria for no reason. Now, Mr. President, we're also told that Delta Force was able to pretty much cut right through all of your presidential guard, like, pretty much like a hot knife through
Starting point is 00:03:58 butter. We're told something like 55 Cubans. killed, possibly 80 soldiers total in total. Why is it, Mr. President, that you didn't try to, I don't know, train your forces a little bit better or have better security? It's no my problem. It's not my fault. Cubano.
Starting point is 00:04:17 My protecting service is all Cubans. You cannot trust them. They're very bad. They're not good. And I need them to protect me, and they don't do it. good job at all. It's not good. See?
Starting point is 00:04:37 You understand? Yeah. See? See? Now, Andrew, of course, you speak Spanish. Maybe you can help me translate some of this, but, you know, being, of course, that you're Mexican. Hey, this is a good one. I like this.
Starting point is 00:04:56 And President Maduro, I just wanted to ask that, now, now we understand that your wife was also arrested the same time as you had you know we we need to know and people are asking i see the chat is lighting up while you were on the plane were you able to become members of the five-mile high club see they allow us a two minutes and uh we do it but i have to say um two minutes but that's i have to say when i arrive in the new york I was shocked to see how many illegals are in the city. Because, how do you say, it reminds me of Venezuela. I feel like I'm at home.
Starting point is 00:05:46 So many of them. But they're all Mexican. I don't know why. They're Puerto Rican. My final question, my final question, Mr. President, El Presente, is we're also told, also your prison cell seems to be in some kind of prison library. How is it like, how are your conditions, how are the facilities there in New York, and what is it like being cellmates with Diddy?
Starting point is 00:06:14 See, it's no bad. It's no bad. It's no bad at all. You remind me of me and the Celia, we do it much similar. And Didi do it much similar to the Celia do. and back home are present no good back home are prison
Starting point is 00:06:33 no water no food you work in New York I get to play chess you good I mean no food and no water in a Venezuelan prison sounds like it's also like a Venezuelan restaurant Venezuelan mall
Starting point is 00:06:46 grocery store supermarket yeah but I eat do do we have Tyler is Tyler here Yeah, we do. We have Tyler here. He seems thoroughly out.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Tyler, you have any, he came in cold. I feel like I walked in the middle of something. I don't know. You have any questions for President. Tyler's just thinking, I already got in trouble for dumb stuff. Now I'm going to get in trouble for more stuff like this segment. This is not dumb stuff. This is serious international relations.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Serious geopolitics, Blake. No, he's number one. Need a president. Warrant. Me number one, president, Trump. allow me to do a one podcast. So, Mr. President, what would you, if you were advising President Trump what to do with the oil, the Venezuelan oil, what do you think America should do with it?
Starting point is 00:07:39 Two things. One is really bad oil. It's no good. Dirty oil. That's why it is so hard. See. And number two, the Chinese pay good money. Good client.
Starting point is 00:07:55 So sell it to China. See? It's number one client. No problem. It's good. Thank you for that advice. Or would you mean perhaps no problem? No problem.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I give a speech six months ago and I say, Venna for me! La's per here, miraflores, no legal tard, go board. In the president, I think I call him coward. I don't call him coward. All I want is peace.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I want peace, no war. And he arrests me for no reason. And me and Cecilia is wrongfully put in the prison. Why? For what? Oh, boy. I think that covers the Venezuela time.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I think that covers Venezuela very capably. But we're planning to talk about that later in the show. But Jack, we were also very excited to hit our first time. topic for the day before mustache man intruded on our podcast. I guess he must have chloroformed. No, he's not to post.
Starting point is 00:09:06 He's still a president. Oh. Yeah, he's El Presente. Yeah, he's El Presidency. You know, Trump allowed him on the podcast. Well, Mr. President, I mean, you have anywhere else to go? Do you want to just sit and join us on thought crime tonight and just kind of go through the topics?
Starting point is 00:09:18 We had a whole show plan before you, before you, you know, crashed our, you know, crashed our event. So would you, would you want to just go through the show? I don't recognize. Maduro without his sash. Thank you. I will love it. Thank you for invite. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Let's do it. Maduro needs his sash. He needs his Venezuela's sash. Do they let him wear a sash in prison? Probably not a sash. No, not since Jeffrey Epstein. He's had to take his sash off. Is it true?
Starting point is 00:09:49 Mr. President, is it true? Did they put you in Jeffrey Epstein's cell? And is it true that he may have left some things behind in that cell? He did. But my next door is Dede. And I tell Didi, I say, you like oil? And he said, yeah, I like baby oil. And I say, I also like oil.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Venezuela, we have a lot of it. And he do not good things to me with that oil. E. TMI, Mr. Presidente. I, sorry. Empathy's no problem. I'm sure your wife was very upset about this. It's a bit of T.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Cilia is okay with this, right? See, Siliya did the same thing to me back in Caracas. Oh, so you're familiar with Didi then, as it is. See? Didi invite me to parties I cannot make because I get a restate if I go to America. So I stay in Caracas, and now I go to Diti Party every day. Well, you know, it's interesting because Blake, I think you were just about to say,
Starting point is 00:11:09 our first topic might actually lend itself to something that might be potentially helpful for people who are in President Maduro's situation. They're stuck inside, but they do have computer access, so this is something that might actually be useful for them. Do we want to hit that, or do we want to hit me? Minneapolis first, Jack? We have a couple options. Well, you know, we do have, so here's the situation. You know, obviously we've got people on the ground in Minneapolis. We've got assets on the ground. Human events has people there right now. Keeping an eye on it. We just saw, obviously,
Starting point is 00:11:42 Commander Bovino got into a scuffle with a couple of these agitators. His security had to get involved. It looks like he was totally okay from that perspective, but there's no question. They are starting to target him more. And we know the sun is going down there in Minneapolis. There Also, outside of this, you know, this area where the shooting took place, they've created, you know, some kind of autonomous zone or maybe perhaps the early stages of an autonomous zone similar to what we saw in Seattle five years ago with the chas. I don't know if this is the going to be called the Mazz, the Minneapolis autonomous zone. So we'll see. But we know that Mayor Fry actually did order police out of the area. And barricades are now beset up. being set up like it's the French Revolution. And it's, it's, what can I say? The Bolsheviks, the Marxist, the Jacobins, the right, here's a, here's a video of it now. So these barricades are being set up like it's the French Revolution.
Starting point is 00:12:39 The Jacobins are back. The Bolsheviks are back and they're doing the exact same things they did before. So obviously we're going to be keeping an eye on that. If something pops off, we're going to go straight to it. But did you guys, Blake, what do you think? Should we, should we get into this story now? Yeah, I think, I think so. I think it's just the biggest, it's the biggest story of today.
Starting point is 00:12:56 had going through the extremely arbitrary measure of how many tweets on X it had trending shoved in my face it was like several million and I think you know the topic we're questioning the sort of the big picture question is you could say who killed Renee good because there's really there's a lot of good candidates because everyone's decided to blame some people are blaming you know the officer but a lot of people are blaming president Trump we have people saying he needs to be impeached. He needs to be arrested. He needs to be probably who knows what they would want to say. But we were saying on the show today,
Starting point is 00:13:33 I think the person who bears the most responsibility is probably Mayor Jacob Fry and then Governor Tim Walz. And the reason they bear responsibility is they decided to pit their own people against ICE as political pawns, as human shields, and they wanted something like this to happen. They were all,
Starting point is 00:13:51 they're overjoyed. Deep down, they are overjoyed that this took place. They wanted to create a situation like this and they got their wish and they're celebrating right now. Yeah. There's no question. I mean, some of the stuff that I've been seeing, by the way, is pretty insane in terms of them going and talking about how then and Blake, you've definitely seen this before with a lot of other, you know, Kyle Rittenhouse type shootings or other police based shootings where they'll say, they'll sit there and say, oh, well, why didn't the officer just, you know, shoot the tires or, oh, why didn't the officer just, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:24 do this or why didn't he just do that? Did he have to do this? It's like, oh, yeah, yeah, he should have just shot the steering wheel out of her hand so she can't turn it into him. Why didn't he just shoot her foot so she wouldn't be able to hit the gas? This is ridiculous. These kind of statements are ridiculous. And then, of course, it came out today that the same officer had actually been hit. I forget exactly the amount of time. It was a couple of months ago, I think. In June. And it was June. So a couple, about six months ago. So he required 35, stitches in that incident where he had been drug and numerous incidents where this is going on. And I think, you know, I think we're all generally in agreement that the officer was in the
Starting point is 00:15:05 right here and the protester was not, the agitator was not. But what I would like to get into with the gang, since we are on thought crime, we're supposed to be committing thought crimes. What is going on with these NPR listener women who seem to think that they can just commit acts like this with reckless abandon and face no consequences whatsoever. Why do they seem to because there are other people. And Cassandra Fairbanks had this TikTok video that she posted earlier today where there was another woman out of Charlotte. And she was saying, oh, yeah, me and my friends were going around looking for ice agents and trying to block them as well. And we never thought that something like this could happen to us. But now I'm starting to get scared. What if that happens to me next? And it's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:15:52 If you see police officers out conducting an arrest or out, you know, dealing with a, you know, a car crash, anything, like whatever they're doing. And you drive up to them and block your car in front of what law enforcement is doing, you're going to have a bad day. All right. I don't know if this is going to happen. But if you try to ram them with your car, then yes, definitely this is going to happen. And you're definitely going to have a bad day. And what's crazy to me, though, is that these liberal, you know, the AWFLs, the awfuls, have never seemed to actually face any real consequences at all in their lives. Well, and there's this clip. I think it's 344. Did I find it?
Starting point is 00:16:37 344, I believe, yeah, this is getting, this is when he got drag, Jack, 334. Play cut 334. These images show the officer's hand in the vehicle. you can see the driver take off with the agent hanging from the car dragging him 300 feet through front yards. These graphic images show the aftermath, a bloody agent who needed 33
Starting point is 00:17:01 stitches for his significant cuts. Oh my gosh. And by the way, I hadn't seen that. Yeah, and, you know, here's the deal. It's this, let's see here, Christy Noam, you can do this $299. Christy Noam detailed yesterday
Starting point is 00:17:19 that just in recent weeks, there's been over 100 ramming incidents involving ICE agents. There was four the day of the fatal shooting, three of which happened in Minneapolis. 299. Today alone in this country, there have been four different domestic terrorist attacks on federal officers by the ramming of vehicles. Three of them happened here in Minneapolis. We've seen over 100 of these vehicle ramings happen in just recent weeks, and this must stop. ICE alone is facing a 1,300% increase in assaults against them and an 8,000% increase in death threats against all of them. In fact, the very same officer who was attacked today had previously been dragged by an anti-ice rider who had rammed him with a car and drug him back in June.
Starting point is 00:18:08 He sustained injuries at that time as well. Yeah, so what my question is, because this has been going on for months, these ramming incidents, my question is, who's training them to do this? Like what message boards, what private Discord chats, whatever, who's funding it? Because I watched a story in detail. It was probably in like,
Starting point is 00:18:28 I want to say October, November. And it was in Southern California. The guy instantly calls his lawyer, which was connected to some, you know, nonprofit that was getting funded through a nonprofit. So where does that nonprofit get its money to pay the lawyers?
Starting point is 00:18:42 How did they coordinate with the local citizen observers so that these people, know where to call and who to call when they get in trouble. And then within two hours, this guy was on with Aaron Burnett on CNN, crime victim, because he was harassing, stalking ice agents in the field. Yeah. I mean, I don't know that they need to be trained to ram someone with a car. It just, it seems pretty straightforward in how they do it. But what you will find if you float around in left wing circles online, the thing about it, I guess that the right should understand is the left is pretty good at being
Starting point is 00:19:15 decentralized about things. So you can just be in a Discord server. You can be on threads or Blue Sky or whatever. You can be just in private chat rooms. You can be in signal groups. You can be on text chains. And they're just very good at sharing knowledge.
Starting point is 00:19:34 And they're very good at organically getting all aligned on an issue. We should do that here. Yeah. But we won't do that here because that's just that's a fundamental difference between the left and right and how they would be yeah okay but and how they and how they do things hey everybody this is andrew colvette executive producer of the charlie kirk show bernah is proud
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Starting point is 00:21:18 Hey, this is where ICE is today. You need to keep an eye on them. And then you can go in the comments and you'll see people coordinating these types of activities and these types of attacks or people will post flyers about this is where we're going next week. Facebook has had this up for years. They've never done anything about it. Instagram as well, both same company, meta. Reddit has it all over the place. So again, they just do it right out in the open.
Starting point is 00:21:40 And unfortunately, you don't actually see either the social media. companies taking action against it and you definitely don't see action taken until unfortunately events like this take place and you see agents in in this case having to defend for their lives and be in this situation when they shouldn't have to be because the National Guard should be there already. In fact, it's just a thing because you mention it. I just decided to search Ice Watch Minneapolis and on Reddit's Minneapolis page there's Ice Watch orientation tonight 7 p.m. Zoom. That's probably 7 Central. That's an hour and a half from now.
Starting point is 00:22:16 And someone says, remember to join these events with a VPN. But I suspect you don't need to join it with a VPN. So by the way, it just came out. People should police these. If you go look at Post-Millennial just posted up a story that, in fact, Renee Good was a quote, ICE Watch warrior who was trained by far left activist to disrupt and resist agents. So she is someone who received this training. She is someone who possibly was working with this Reddit page or something similar where through, listen to this.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Through school and activist groups, she became involved with an ice watch group, quote, a loose collection of activists whose mission was to disrupt ice during operations. Similar groups and agitators have been forming all over the country with the goals to docks, disrupt, and block ice from carrying out lawful operations to remove illegal aliens from the city. Let's see. Where is this one? She received training. This is someone someone who knows her from school.
Starting point is 00:23:22 She received training, very thorough training, to listen to commands, to know your rights, to whistle when you see an ice agent. This is what she had done. So people who knew her say that she was actively involved in training to disrupt ICE operations. And these types of groups
Starting point is 00:23:39 are out there. They have been forming. They're doing so. I just mentioned the one in Minneapolis. It's right there in public. Anyone can go see it yet Reddit will not take action against this. We haven't seen indictments against any of the people doing this. We haven't seen the DOJ come and try to take down these Reddit pages at all the way they take down pages. Again, they just do it right in the open. And here's the article. Jack, to your point has it right there. To your point, I mean, to corroborate the fact that she was obviously trained, this was an eyewitness to this event, 281. They clearly wanted her out of there because she was the main car leading the the protest is my understanding. I talked to another guy who was driving behind her, but she was,
Starting point is 00:24:21 she was very at, she was very successful in blocking traffic. She was doing what she was, what she was set out to do, and so they wanted to get her the hell out of there. Yeah. So it looked like she was impeding ice vehicles. Yeah, that was her goal. Yeah, and this actually goes way back, though. This is almost 10 years ago. So I'll just point to 10 years ago here in Arizona. There is a group that's called Michente that's still operational.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I wasn't sure if they were operational or not. But they have been, thank you so much for that. I should have asked the president actually for a translation. Is that correct, president? President. How do you say, my gente in English? So Mi Hinté has actually been operating for well over a decade. And I actually just did a quick search of their website where they giddily talk about, you know, car blocking as a tactic.
Starting point is 00:25:16 So this has been a tactic that's been used. In Arizona, they were doing this. If you remember, 10 years ago, car blocking, using vehicles to get in the way, which was just referenced in that video, which is, again, this is what happens. I mean, what can go wrong when you take crazy people, you ignite them through. organization like mehinte you put them in a vehicle you tell them to use the vehicle to impede uh lawful conduct and then you know wouldn't you know it you know they could actually maybe hurt somebody because vehicles are one of the deadliest things that you could give a crazy person uh and so this one i'm looking at is a protester was transferred to immigration authorities
Starting point is 00:26:02 in arizona uh was but they were again doing the same exact they were blocking. This was 2016. This is March of 2016. So this is... Yeah, these guys are anti-civilizational arsonist. This is what they are. They're civilizational arsonists. Oh, the president
Starting point is 00:26:21 disappeared. The president disappeared. The last year calling ICE. Yeah, the president's gone. Mikey's back. They've spent the last year calling ICE, you know, the Gestapo, the Nazis, the fascists. And then we're supposed to be surprised when people
Starting point is 00:26:36 and Tyler brought it up. I mean, car blocking as a thing on the left. So we're supposed to be surprised when people interfering with an ice operation get the consequences of interfering with an ice operation. And so they think that nothing's going to happen to them by using their car. And you saw in that clip that lady, she was leading the way. She was obviously trying to stop this ice operation. And she found out what the consequences were. And so I don't think car blocking is going to be a big thing on the left anymore now that they've found out what the consequences are. But we can't be surprised. when you interfere with an ice operation,
Starting point is 00:27:10 that that's actually stemming from the left, constantly labeling our brave ice officers as fascists, as Gestapo, as Nazis, and they're not actually enforcing the law in our country, but they're actually just taking decent, nice, innocent families and deporting them for absolutely no reason at all, of course. Well, that's what I want to get into, though, is because you've got people that just live in this soup all the time,
Starting point is 00:27:35 and particularly it's these affluent female white women, some cases more middle class and they're just listening to NPR over and over. Fisher King had a tweet up earlier where he said NPR said that ICE shot a woman in her car just while she was sitting in it. Didn't even mention anything about the gas, didn't even mention anything about assaulting the officer or trying to run into him. And so this is still what I want to get into is how is it that we have these massive pockets and swaths of our population where there's millions of people caught up in this fried mental
Starting point is 00:28:12 model where they just think it's totally fine to go and interfere with police. It's like it's a section. I think it's kind of like larping in a sense, like live action role playing, but it's something where like they don't actually realize that this isn't a game, but they think it is. Yeah, they think they're the robin hoods of our society and that they're upholding the, you know, the social and moral law of our country when they don't actually realize that you're breaking the law by coming into our country legally. But also, I don't know if you guys have seen the clip of the car.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Its tires actually slid because it was icy out there and it was cold. And the tires didn't catch traction. But thank God that happened because if it didn't, the ice officer 100% would have been run over before he was able to take the shot. And so say what you want, but yeah, you can see it in this clip. She speeds forward and her tire does not catch the traction. So say what you want, but you cannot be the Robin Hood of society and uphold what you think is actually the law of our country
Starting point is 00:29:12 when these brave ice officers are putting their lives on the line day in and day out. It's like they actually, if you actually believe, right, if you actually believe that ICE are fascist Nazis, then you've been told your whole life that the best thing you can do is go out and fight the Nazis, go out and kill the Nazis. And look, every one of us on this program right now. And, you know, we know exactly what the consequences of something like that can be when you're told over and over that someone's a Nazi because they don't call you a Nazi because they think you're one. They call you one because they want to be able to kill you and get away with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Well, and I, so, Mikey, you were saying that perhaps we're not going to see any car ramming's. But I think it's a little more insistent, like, you know, because now somebody's effed around and found out. I think it's more insidious than that. I think that they wanted this to happen. I think that they wanted this to be their banner. It's 100% staged. Here's the problem, though, is that, again, this whole thing, the only way to stop a bus deporting a bunch of people is put a car in front of it. The only way to, you know, block a road is they're not going to do this with human change.
Starting point is 00:30:30 They've done that before. you know how easy that is to get they they they have trained people to put people in vehicles they're going to you're going to have crazier people than ever before in vehicles doing more of the but what i'm saying is but what i'm saying is they wanted somebody to die well that's what i'm saying they're 100% they want their own they want they want a few martyrs so that they can sort of now protest and do do their own chaz in minneapolis although it's freezing but they're not going to be but this isn't it there's going to be more yeah they want more people they're They have a lot more people.
Starting point is 00:31:01 They'll want to. Yeah, I think they'll do more car, certainly more car blockages. They'll, and they'll make a whole stunt out of it. Are you going to shoot me too? And, like, frankly, ice needs to plan now for what their plan should be. And I feel like the best plan for what they should do is, if you are blocking ice, we are going through your car. 100% of the time. Like, you basically, you can't mess around with this.
Starting point is 00:31:21 You can't let yourself get bossed around by people who are willful disruptors of the social contract and willful undermineres of law and order. When people try to get hooked on these memes there, they're trying to increase entropy. They're trying to obliterate the ability for ICE to do its job. And the only way you can stop that is you just say, nope, every single time, bam, your car's gone, you're off to jail, you're getting a prison sentence. I have a theory, though, is that they actually want white women being the ones driving these cars. Well, they certainly are the easiest ones to recruit to drive the cars. Well, no, I think they intentionally want white women to drive the cars. And they want because I think, because if you look at the past,
Starting point is 00:32:01 In the past, they were kind of recruiting like Hispanic leaders to be involved with this. That doesn't exist anymore. And I think it's intentional. And part of the intentionality of that is I actually think they want to influence white women to feel bad for white women who become victims of their self-created crime. Does that make sense? Yeah. Like I actually think that the insidious thing about all this is they're actually intentionally recruiting white. females to get involved with this because they know that the white female vote in America is probably
Starting point is 00:32:40 going to be more impacted by a crazy white female getting killed by ICE. The sympathy, I'm telling you, I just don't think they need to be deliberate about it. Yeah. Infinite young white. I'll also add. But they do definitely want them as the martyr.
Starting point is 00:32:56 They want them as the martyr. They're probably bad drivers. They're probably bad drivers. And they're also like most likely to do something. stupid think that they're like G.I. Joe. Like if you need to stick someone's face on a poster and like this is the martyr, you don't want to use those like Antifa mutants
Starting point is 00:33:09 that they get arrested in Portland all of the time. You want someone who has a face, ideally no tattoos, ideally no like weird disfigurements. Something like middle America, girl next door. Yeah, exactly. But they don't want it to be a minority because that's unimpactful to the vote the voter that they're trying to influence.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Yeah. Yeah. Charlie used to always talk about how we're team civilization and their team anarchy. And so if their ultimate goal is anarchy, which is to make a new chaz, to burn down Minneapolis and burn down Wendy's, well, you see two extremes here. You see George Floyd, who was arrested and died doing something wrong, which was stealing, beating women, taking fentanyl, and Derek Chauvin upholding the law, who should be out of jail, by the way.
Starting point is 00:33:59 And then on this case, you see a woman who's interfering with an ice operation and both of them get killed in the process. And so if the ultimate goal is anarchy in the world of fair and equitable, why isn't the white woman getting the exact same riots and burning in the streets and destruction of a city that the black man got? That's not very fair and equitable. If the victim is white, riots, be slight. You're not going to get the Somali community to riled up about a white woman. You're not going to get BLM riled up about a white woman. It's just not going to happen. Well, but here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Honestly, part of this, we're fortunate this didn't happen in the summer months because I'm telling you it's cold in Minneapolis. Let's see how big this, this MAZ-Chaz community grows or how big it. It's cold. And I know that some will, like most passionate will do it. But I'm telling you, the only thing that's saving Minneapolis right now from a, from a Floydo-Palooza 2.0 is the freezing temperature. I disagree. I think it, I think it does matter that it was a white victim. And so who is radicalize.
Starting point is 00:34:59 This is more radicalizing to the extremes. It greatly, here's what's more likely to happen. You're a lot more likely after this to have, like, I'll be frank, an Antifa psycho with an AR-15 goes and tries to ambush and murder ICE agents. That is a lot more likely than after the Floyd case. Or like a bombing, fire bombing or pipe bombing or something. That type of thing, sure, we do see that kind of like targeted leftist white violence. but targeted BLM violence is just wanton riots. You only get like the looting style riots, let's be frank, after a BLM coded event.
Starting point is 00:35:35 And you can look back. We had them after Floyd, but we had lesser local ones after Freddie Gray and Baltimore. You had Michael Brown and Ferguson. I guess those didn't boil over in the riots as much. Yeah, but you're right, though, because it's kind of like the CERNO, Steve Salier, like, observation that, you know, if you're going to, like, CERNA is always saying, and Jack back me up on this, that when you get a white guy, not dissimilar from a Tyler Robinson person, right? Like silent but very deadly, when they get radicalized, they actually- It's not an impulsive violence. It's a meticulous, methodical, planned out type of violence.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Versus the spray and prey, like Floydo Pallusa, rioting, you know, yeah. Yeah, yeah, which is horrific. I said on War Room earlier today that it would not surprise me if one of the things that we see next is an attempt to assassinate commander Bovino. He's walking around there all the time. He is a very well-known target. He's on TV all the time. And as horrific as it is, and as, you know, obviously, ghoulish as it is to talk about, you do have to actually point that out to say, look, you know, this guy is going to be a massive high-value target for. the left and i guarantee you and we just we just saw them assault him once so i guarantee you what
Starting point is 00:36:58 were they doing they were testing security and they're gonna they just they trainee just showed up at jd's house a couple of nights ago uh charlie of course is still no longer with us and this is what i don't get when i see so much like like infighting and like all the insanity going on in like the conservative media world right now and it's like guys they're they're literally bolsheviks at the door who are trying to kill us. They've killed one of us already. They are not stopping. They're trying to kill ICE. They've got they've got like middle America moms going behind the cars of SUV fully radicalized. Blake, you and I used to talk about this. Radicalized to the level of ISIS charging at ICE officers and we're sitting there still wondering like oh well you know let's just talk about
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Starting point is 00:39:00 Like, we'll brag about this. You know, you'll see those polls that say, liberal women are way more likely to report having, you know, a diagnosed mental illness than conservative women. And also, liberal men are more likely to report a diagnosed mental thing. And the really insane people are more likely to be on the left. And as we've pointed out, like, you know, the trans. epidemic. That correlates with every single mental illness known to man. They're vastly more likely
Starting point is 00:39:26 to have all of these. These are mentally unwell individuals. And yeah, sometimes that manifests as I post embarrassing things on the internet, but sometimes that manifests as I try to do a mass shooting. We've had at this point, while like over the holidays, we just, you know, we got additional confirmation that the Nashville shooter was actually motivated by like aggressive racial grievance, just straight up in their notebooks. It's like, oh, I should target this school. because it's white instead of black. And we saw transgender radicalism in the Minneapolis shooting.
Starting point is 00:39:55 You have all of these ingredients for lunatic people to express themselves in violence. And they're endlessly getting this media script from political leaders on the left, from Governor Walls, from members of Congress saying, yeah, let's play it.
Starting point is 00:40:10 This is May 2025, Governor Tim Walts at some, at a college, by the way. At a college at a graduation ceremony, 342. Donald Trump's, modern-day Gascoppo is scooping folks up off the streets. They're in unmarked vans wearing masks being shipped off to foreign torture dungeons.
Starting point is 00:40:29 No chance to mount a defense, not even a chance to kiss a loved one goodbye, just grabbed up by masked agents, shoved into those vans, and disappeared. To be clear, there's no way for us to know whether they were actually criminals or not. It's not hyperbole to say, we're not far from a world where anyone could get that knock at a door. And there's no guarantee you'd get your day in court, or that you'd ever make it home alive from whatever corner of the world they stick you in. Now, if Trump and his folks want to come from Minnesotans,
Starting point is 00:40:56 we need to make sure that there's a firewall that they have to come through before they get to them. It's so deranged. It's so deranged. He doesn't even know history well enough to be able to pronounce Gestapo. Yeah, Gestapo. And the specific precedents matter here. The Gestapo was declared a criminal organization
Starting point is 00:41:13 after World War II. You, just being a member of it, made you a criminal. thing they did with the SS. And he's saying, oh, masked agents are going to abduct you from your home. He's basically saying, America is ruled by a criminal terrorist gang. That is not disagreement with immigration policy. That is not, oh, I don't, I think we should have amnesty for immigrants. That is, there is a criminal gang going around terrorizing people. And what do you do against criminal terrorist gangs? You shoot them. That is what they are communicating. That is what they are saying every day.
Starting point is 00:41:45 They absolutely, they want, the thing is, is they want both outcomes. As we said on the show today, they want to stoke the lunatics who will get out a rifle and actually murder them because they think, one, it might force ICE to dial things back. It might keep people from joining ICE. It'll make their enforcement operations harder. But it also increases the risk for these Renee Good type individuals who are just trying to get in the way, block things up, get in their face. Because it's that balance. It's that every ice agent, when someone gets in their face, has to wonder. is this the lunatic with the rifle who's going to kill us?
Starting point is 00:42:21 They get more nervous. They get more jumpy. They're more likely to use force. They're way more on edge. That's why cops are more likely to shoot someone in a bad neighborhood. They're terrified. Oh, this guy in this traffic stop could kill me. They just want to get home to their families at night.
Starting point is 00:42:36 And meanwhile, they put their bodies on the line during the day. And, you know, somebody might kill them. And you're totally right. All right. Go ahead. Yep. No, breaking out of Portland, they're saying, that two people were shot in Portland by U.S. Customs and Border Patrol agents
Starting point is 00:42:56 breaking out of local ABC. We'll see how that one went down. Let's see. You know what's frustrating about this too? Is that guess what we're not talking about as soon as this happened in Minneapolis. We're not talking about Somali fraud. Well, we're still in Minneapolis.
Starting point is 00:43:13 So at least we'll have that. It's just Minneapolis is the number one content producing city in America. It really is. Yeah, exactly. And that's the thing with the Tim Walls clip that we just played, this, go ahead. Oh, as you can say, this happened like, what, like four blocks away from where George Floyd died? Yes. Like, this shooting happened within walking distance of where George Floyd died.
Starting point is 00:43:37 That is just mind-blowing me. How far away from the cheese take factory that they run? With the Tim Walls thing, like, that's what I want to know. Yeah, this is all smoke, smoke and mirrors with him. because if he can get you to spend all of your time thinking about the Gestapo and the Nazis and the fascists that are wrongfully arresting, beautiful, kind, you know, participating members of society for absolutely no reason and sending them back to their country, even though they actually broke the law, then he can get you to ignore the fact that under his administration there was billion of dollars that just disappeared through Somali fraud and daycare fraud and just fraud in general. And so I think it's really rich when this guy is talking about ice agents that are actually doing their job. And because they're doing their job, they're getting docs, they're getting their addresses leaked, they're getting bricks thrown through their windows, they're getting their families threatened for doing their job and upholding the law. And so when this guy says, you'll have your day in court, it's just so sweet, so, so sweet, such sweet justice when we can say, no, actually, Tim Walz, you'll have your day in court for actually breaking the law and in trying to get.
Starting point is 00:44:46 us to all look in the other direction, the wrong direction, to focus on things that are not the truth, to focus on people that are actually doing their jobs and upholding the law. Yeah, so FBI Portland is investigating an agent-involved shooting that happened at approximately 215 near the 10,000 block of Main Street and Portland involving customs and border patrol agents in which two individuals were wounded. This remains an active and ongoing investigation led by the FBI. Follow this. My guess, just totally guessing here, most ICE the can't introduce people most of these are going to be people they're trying to arrest and so I would guess that's probably what the case is I looked up the address that this occurred at
Starting point is 00:45:25 it's in a very bad part of Portland uh the glen fair neighborhood appears to be a frequent yeah but if you're seeing if you're if you're an illegal immigrant and you're getting trying to you know ice is trying to nab you and you've got this big story going on in minneapolis and all the left wingers are all riled up, then you might think, oh, this is the time to really, like, press it and and try and get away and flee. So it's not to say that those two stories aren't disconnected. You know, yeah, one involves a U.S. citizen who's a white lady, 37-year-old white lady, and the other one's probably, you know, let's be honest, probably Hispanics or some other minority group. But it still increases the temperature in the country that, listen, it's brazen,
Starting point is 00:46:06 anti-law enforcement activity where everybody thinks that they have a role to play and standing up to law enforcement. No, whatever happened to what my dad told me, which is like, if a cop pulls you over, you go 10 and 2, you take the keys out of the car, you turn it off, you roll down the window and you say, yes, Mr. officer, hi officer. Wait, you turn on worship music first. Yeah, you turn on worship music. It's just, no, but like this is, this is the world I was raised in. And all of a sudden, these people completely flip everything and think that they have some right to go play vigilante justice on the street. I think there's a, I think there's a different song, though, that Andrew
Starting point is 00:46:40 always make sure he's playing when he gets pulled over. Every time. It's true. Every time he walks into the office, that starts playing. And the weird thing is, it's like, it's not coming from his phone or from any audio thing. Everyone just kind of hears it. It's like, it's my DNA.
Starting point is 00:46:54 It's just ambient background. My DNA is just resonating. Yeah, that's right. Me and Maduro. Yeah. Even though Venezuela probably. But yeah, I think, I think that, my most important takeaway on this is I do think we care about actually achieving.
Starting point is 00:47:10 the administration's goal, what it was run on, which is get deportations, get mass deportations. And so they need to be thinking, they need to be strategizing now at DHS, inside the White House. What is the left likely to do in response to this? And then what are we going to do in response to that? They can't be caught flat-footed. So if they're, as we predict, there's going to be more car blockages. They try to exploit this. What's your strategy to deal with that? What I've seen some of them mentioning some of the political leaders,
Starting point is 00:47:39 city council, local DA saying, like, come at us, we're going to arrest you. Like, they're going to start trying to bend state law to be able to arrest some of these federal law enforcement. You have to be ready for that. Eventually, someone is going to try to become, make them, frankly, someone's going to try to make themselves a presidential frontrunner by being the one who pulls the stunt of trying to arrest an ICE agent while they're doing their operations. It might be Mamdani in New York. I guess he can't run, but he would still want that publicity. might be walls in Minneapolis. It could be someone in Oregon.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Let's go through that for a second. So Keith Ellison, we know, was the one who personally came in and oversaw the charges on literally Derek Chauvin himself. So not exactly known as being a bastion of support for police in Minnesota. Could the attorney general here, could the state of Minnesota bring murder charges on this officer? They absolutely could try. Well, there's nothing preventing that. We talked about that today, actually, with Eric Schmidt, who's a former AG of Missouri. He said that that would, that basically the charges would get rolled into a federal,
Starting point is 00:48:47 the federal supremacy would kick in, and it would become a federal charge, basically, because it's a federal law enforcement. That was his, that was what he said. I forget the exact term he used. We were chatting about this earlier, too, and I think I do agree that I think with A. Smith that the supremacy clause would reign here. This was a federal officer who was undergoing undertaking federal duties. There's no question. And so yeah, a federal officer could be indicted for, you know, all sorts of state crimes. Like you could you could commit a hit and run or something. Like you could break the laws and get arrested. But if you're conducting your duties as a federal
Starting point is 00:49:24 officer, then that would basically get thrown out in federal court. Like it's just it's just not something that a state can do. Well, this is this is this is. the whole thing that I'm dealing with right now is like the whole supremacy thing right this is where the left wants to use lawfare to try to invoke state law to try to go after i mean think about like what was going on with the elector stuff in Georgia they try to go down to the county level to indict Trump at the state level they're indicing political opponents at the state level because it's under away from the federal government so trump's in office obviously they're going to try to do everything we possibly can to indict
Starting point is 00:50:03 whoever using state powers, right? And again, just to your point, Jack, the law is very clear that the federal government's in charge and where it's in charge, they have no say.
Starting point is 00:50:21 But that doesn't solve the cheesecake incident from BLM, the BLM rights. Do we have that clip? The cheesecakeing? do we do we have that angela okay they're still grabbing it oh dang all right i teed that up cheesecake he actually went to cheesecake factory well we were we were last thing i don't get the cheesecake it's cut it's got we're gonna pull it up this is like one of the things that we was like hilarious
Starting point is 00:50:49 while we were going through all this back in the BLM riots so we were covering all this stuff when minneapolis was getting like ransacked and they were remember they were like ransacking every single city or every single store they shut down everything they boarded up all down to Minneapolis except and they were covering this and this clip came on on the news do we have it soon almost yeah so soon so soon they're looking now it's actually there's a long his there's a lot of legal
Starting point is 00:51:19 all right it's loaded back and forth specifically on the can they prosecute a federal agent who is doing federal actions is there's some funny ones like during prohibition or in 1898 Virginia charged a tax collector posse who shot and killed horses and cattle during a shootout who they claimed they were ambushed while trying to collect taxes
Starting point is 00:51:41 there's like prohibition related cases it would be interesting but I would say before you worry about the charges I think that won't be dramatic enough someone is going to want to try to arrest the agents while they're doing their thing and you have to be ready for how you handle that They should not allow that to occur without having a plan. I wonder what the plan would be, because that could devolve into sort of like a shootout.
Starting point is 00:52:06 I mean, it could. And I think you have to say, like, I think you have to hold firm on that sort of thing. Maybe make them have to shoot. Actually, what I would say is you probably want to make them have to shoot first, but you cannot allow them to stop you. 343 is the cheesecake clip. Yeah, let's pull this. 343. See someone actually walking away with a cheesecake there after the cheesecake.
Starting point is 00:52:27 factory was looted unclear where they may have gotten that i think it's abundantly clear where she got the cheesecake the cheesecake factory it's the greatest clip ever this i never saw this no we were laughing about it on here i don't see i was only on for 50 percent we had we literally they were robbing every store including the cheesecake factory this chicks walking out with a plated cheesecake and the first out of the news in minneapolis this is how stupid these people are they're like unclear where they got the cheesecake from the cheesecake factory they're the factory you just said the cheesecake factory was looted it's minnesota nice they didn't want to assume i don't i don't think that cheesecake factory maybe they maybe they maybe they never mind no can't so any good jokes this is what i'm saying everybody
Starting point is 00:53:14 needs to be on guard the cheesecake factory in minneapolis because that thing could get looted at any moment so wait i i want to like play this this idea that what's up jack before i get interrupted I know, no, I always do woes with the, you know, with the breaking. And there's some people, it still remains to be seen caveat, caveat, caveat, but I'm seeing some people in the chat. And then I went back over to Twitter to check it out where they're saying that the ICE CBP shooting in Portland may also have involved a vehicle assault. Stop it. See? So not confirm yet, but I'm seeing it in a couple of places right now. You're hearing it first. If you're watching live here on Thought Crime, you're hearing down to the second and for new information.
Starting point is 00:54:07 This is such a fascinating vein of thought, though, what Blake was just talking about. So if you have, let's just say Minneapolis PD or what about its National Guard. What Where does that fall into the Well, the National Guard, that's much more... That's state level. I mean, certainly if this... We have a good precedent from that from a place called Little Rock where if you muster the National Guard
Starting point is 00:54:32 to try and say, I'm going to block the execution of federal law here, that is the clear... That is the clearest precedent in the world for where the president can step in over the head of a governor. And just commandeer the National Guard. Yeah, like you could debate whether he's able to do it just in a normal riot, But that is what happened in the infamous Little Rock case was Orville Falbus called out the National Guard and said, we're going to block the integration of our school. Eisenhower says, no, you're not.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I'm federalizing the Guard and they will enforce integration. And so that is what you could certainly have here. So, Waltz has, yesterday he gave a warning, which apparently is the first step, says mobilized. Get ready. You might be mobilized. And he literally said in the clip, because I need to protect the safety of Minnesotans, including potential. from rogue ice agents, which is a direct head-to-head between state and federal officials. Now, Trump hasn't federalized the Minnesota National Guard. I'm sure he's willing to.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Blake, from a historical standpoint then, what about the Insurrection Act? People keep saying he need the Insurrection Act. Where would that play a role here? I think people just, I think that's a meme that's in people's head because it came up. Okay, okay. You don't think it's practical here. but what would it entail what happens when the president invokes it? I'm not sure. I'd have to reread it. I don't know off the top of my head. Let's look it up.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Unless you know, Jack. Do you know? About the history of the act? I mean, the act goes all the way back. Yeah. I mean, it goes back as far as George Washington used it in the Whiskey Rebellion. I mean, what happens is the president. So the L.A. riots are like the classic example of this in 1992. So George H.W. Bush at the time, federal calls in the National Guard, declares an insurrection, and calls in not just the National Guard, but also even the federal active duty military. Active duty U.S. Armed Forces, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:31 I believe it was active duty Marines from Camp Pendleton who came down, as well as National Guardsmen, many of whom who had just served in units that had just been in, like, Gulf War and Kuwait in other spots that had just rotated back. to the Los Angeles, California area, then came in, and they're ordered under the President of United States to conduct operations within the United States to put down an insurrection, put down these mass acts of lawlessness. So yes, the president can do this. We've been doing this since our very first president. And I always like to add that not only did George Washington order and use the insurrection act or, you know, a similar legal device, he actually commanded troops while sitting as president
Starting point is 00:57:19 to put down the rebellion in western Pennsylvania. So this is, so, and yeah, so you're right Jack, the act has been invoked about 30 times since the late 18th century. And it looks like, so it can happen
Starting point is 00:57:35 at the state's request or to enforce federal authority when laws are obstructed or to protect constitutional rights when unlawful combinations or conspiracies to bribe people of them. So yeah, the president can actually deploy active duty U.S. armed forces and or federalized state National Guard units. So that would be like the Little Rock incident. And then so we've got 1992 Los Angeles riots, right? H.W. Bush invoked it. California governor's request. You have the civil rights here.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Johnson used it multiple times during school desegregation. And then labor disputes with 1800s, early 1900s. That was suppressing strikes, right, when they were striking against employers. Reconstructioneer, Grant invoked it multiple times in the South. Like I said, I think don't focus on the specifics. Was he using Katrina? It might have been. I think I think people are demanding the Insurrection Act because it was brought up a lot during, frankly. Floyda Paloosa. And also after like January 6th that was in, that was in the water as a thing to discuss. So I think it's it's in people's vocabulary. So people are mad at Tim Walls. So they're saying invoke the Insurrection Act.
Starting point is 00:58:42 I think much more than, oh, do you need to invoke Insurrection Act or not? And I suspect the answer is no. There hasn't really been a riot in Minneapolis yet. Again, have that thought process of if someone is trying to, if they're going to up their lawfare efforts against ICE, against ICE agents, against ICE operations. And they just need to have a game plan for how they're going to make sure deportation ops continue.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Well, what happens if there's a standoff if they try and arrest an ICE officer? That is a super interesting, like, and scary question. Do not allow them to do it. Yeah, but I mean, just imagine if local cops are literally exchanging bullets with federal cops. That's the thing. Again, you kind of think about crises like this. Actually, you know what? People want to make the civil war comparison.
Starting point is 00:59:27 I'll get you a civil war comparison. Fort Sumter, it's actually worth reading how that crisis goes down. So the South has seceded, and what they are doing is they are claiming ownership of all the federal forts in the South, where the U.S. military is. There's several of them, and we actually evacuate most of them because we can't hold them, but Fort Sumter is off the coast of Charleston,
Starting point is 00:59:48 and Lincoln refuses to evacuate it. South Carolina says, you have to leave, we've seceded, you don't own this anymore, get out. And Lincoln refuses to do this, but what he very importantly does is he's also adamant, we are not going to shoot first,
Starting point is 01:00:02 we are not going to shoot first, we're not going to shoot first, I'm not going to send any munitions to the fort. I'm only going to send food to the fort as an example. He's only going to supply, the men so they can remain in place but without any addition. He's not going to
Starting point is 01:00:13 like fill it up with gunpowder and shot. And he's very clever about doing this because what Lincoln realizes is if I have this fort open fire on the city of Charleston, we are the aggressors, we look like the bad guys. If the
Starting point is 01:00:29 Southerners go up, fly off the handle and start shelling this fort that did not shoot at them, now they are in rebellion and that will be vastly better for us, frankly, winning the Civil War. And he's hugely correct in this. The South cannot help itself.
Starting point is 01:00:46 They open fire on this fort. There's massive rally around the flag sentiment in the north. Everything is different. So if you're going to have a showdown between Minneapolis police and ICE, the number one thing is, do not let ICE shoot a cop. Make a cop shoot one of them if it's going to happen. Well, and there was... And hopefully that doesn't happen at all. Yes, 100% hope it doesn't happen.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Check this out. But that's why they need to have that discussion now, because those lawfare attempts are going to increase. So this was actually a statement released yesterday by the, I'm just getting the graphic here, by the Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association. And they listen to this quote. So hopefully this would bode well for this scenario not happening.
Starting point is 01:01:35 The Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association stands firmly behind law enforcement officers, accountability under the law and the safety of every Minnesota community. Irresponsible, reckless rhetoric from political leaders attacking law enforcement. So they're standing with their ICE brothers, is what this says. Has real and dangerous consequences for officers on the street when officers are villainized, demonized, or used as political props. It fuels hostility and boldens bad actors and put lives directly at risk. And they ask to stop using inflammatory language and respect the legal and investigative process. Boom.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Hopefully that's a good. hopefully that means that the cops, all the, all the law enforcement guys are on the same team and they know that. So hopefully that doesn't happen. But you get that brotherhood. Yeah, it still could though. I mean, there's still going to be there could be bad actors. I bet you know what I bet is somebody like Tim Walz or Jacob Frye, they have their like, you know, Somalian, like a police force unit that would go in there and do his bidding. It's got like, hey, you know, you gave me the political kickbacks, but I protected your fraud. Now it's time to. call in the favor. I need you to go arrest an ICE. I think we've hit a lot on this topic. What if what if so, because Tim Walls, I guess he was in the National Guard I don't know if he still is or not, but
Starting point is 01:02:49 somebody was saying that they should recall Tim Walls to the National Guard and then invoke the Insurrection Act, but just for Tim Walls. That would be funny. That would be funny. I don't know if we have the power. By the way, and make him have to go and by the way, and make him have to go and guard the spot
Starting point is 01:03:05 where the ICE agent was shot. So he has to be the one who has to stand there all the whole time and if he doesn't he goes to jail by the way i did look up um the katrina response was not the insurrection act although active duty troops were used there is another act called i had to remind myself uh called the stafford act that is used for when active duty troops come in for disaster response so yes well elements of the 80 second airborne were there and they they use these for hurricanes you know routinely i i looked up the whiskey rebellion jack And that was actually the Militia Act of 1792. And it was because in those days, right after the Civil War or the Revolutionary War,
Starting point is 01:03:47 it was like all the states had militia as local militia groups. And so it was essentially the same thing, but it was, you know, for local militia groups. So if you're tired of watching this country drift away from the values that made it great, it's time to get involved. That's why I stand with Amec, the Association of Mature American Citizens. Charlie loved this country. and he loved partnering with organizations that truly stand for what makes America great. One of our most trusted partners, AMAC, the Association of Mature American Citizens,
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Starting point is 01:04:44 Guys, we have to talk about a different immigration topic. We need to talk about, this is how Jack got this. We need to talk about the horse. The horse? No, the horse, Andrew. No, only fans. Maduro's wife. So this is an unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:05:02 No. You guys are kidding me. Oh, yeah. Quick. Mikey, can you stick the mustache back on? Yeah, real quick. No, this is a headline that was in... No, Mikey wasn't here before.
Starting point is 01:05:14 That was someone else. Oh, you're right, you're right. So, this is Financial Times earlier this week. Influencers and OnlyFans models dominate U.S. extraordinary artist visas. Now, this is like a Hall of Fame, somewhat misleading headline because they don't really back that up in the substance. But it's come up. We've talked about the O1 visa on this show and on our normal show. The O-1 visa.
Starting point is 01:05:40 So that's kind of the, in short, it's like a genius visa. It's what people think the H-1B visa is. This is what it actually is. It's for supremely talented people who have world-class abilities in science, athletics, the arts, supremely talented people, and you just need to have them in your country because they are world-class at something. And it's long existed. It was created apparently in response to the Nixon administration, tried to deport John Lennon, which they should have.
Starting point is 01:06:09 but they were apparently unable to do so. But then later in 1990, Congress created this 01 visa, and it includes it's a visa you can just get if you're a top artist. But instead of giving this to, I guess, top classical musicians or, you know, Olympic caliber athletes, apparently we now give them to social media influencers and only fans models. Basically, if they have millions of followers and a lot of engagement, on social media, you can qualify for an 01 visa and come to the United States. This is insane.
Starting point is 01:06:46 So only fan models of social media. And social media influencers are claiming half of coveted U.S. visas meant for movie stars. Yeah. So what you're saying is, what you're saying is that it's no longer the O1 visa, it's now the Ho-1 visa. Okay. But to be, to be fair, what got me laughing. Or was Angelo, I could hear him in the studio cracking up like a beat ahead because it's just the audio gets them. It's bad. It's bad. The best part really, like actually, reading this article, I'll give you your flowers.
Starting point is 01:07:21 What's amazing is in the article, they have some lawyer complaining. And it's not that, oh, we shouldn't have only fans visas as a concept. It's they complain New York-based attorney Shervin Abachi, founder of Abachi Law, warns that there is a risk that artists whose work is not engineer. for online hits will be disadvantaged as the immigration officials will just narrowly focus on their number of views and subscribers when granting these. So like, what if we have the Autour-only fans whores who have a more niche, a more niche community? What if we're not having enough of these Autour-only fans' whores? And we're just getting the most popular ones and the most crass, populist way. Well, we're getting rid of DEI in just about everything. So, you know, if we're going to take them, We got to take the best.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Everything, everything should be based up there. I mean, guys, like, let me just, let me just say, like, what do we talk? I mean, look, obviously, you know, we don't want, we want to, we want to get rid of the Ho-1 visa program. There's no question about that, the H-1B, the H-1, the J-1, and the Ho-1. They all have to go. But, but, you know, when it comes down to it, like, I feel like there should be some kind of, I don't know, like a perhaps some sort of review, you know, situation, perhaps a board. and I think we should point Blake to that board to determine whether or not the hoes are allowed into the country.
Starting point is 01:08:48 There's a really simple way. There's a really simple way to solve this problem with the Ho-1 visa. It's just they have to have a recommendation letter from their dad in order to get into the country. That's a good idea. There would probably be a lot of dads though. Now, if I was on the board, I would accept my position. That's only 5% of the board.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Recommendation letter from their dad. How would you run the review board? What I would do is I would go to the Bureau of Printing and Engraving, and I would say you need to make a nice federal seal or stamp, probably a stamp. And they'll make me a nice official U.S. government stamp that says on it, be gone thought. And I will stamp every single application with that stamp. And I'll have a great day. Every day. No exceptions.
Starting point is 01:09:37 No exceptions. No exceptions. So, wait, if we talk about foreign visas, I think we should bring in our resident expert on foreign travel, President Maduro. What's your take on the Ho-One visa? No problem. I come because they take me. My wife, Celia, she come on Ho-Wan visa. And she and Didi are a good number one friend.
Starting point is 01:10:05 They like this. Celia Hoan She's definitely not making a cat Presbyia Maybe not today No Celia is Muebein She is not Muebein
Starting point is 01:10:17 I think she probably could have been Muey N Like 30 years ago Yeah 30 years ago Yeah she could have got We have some images here She could have got the Hoa visa 30 years ago
Starting point is 01:10:27 Did you know wait This brings up that topic That we talked about Not that long ago There's you know There's only Under the age of 30 there's only 43 million women under the age of 30 in America,
Starting point is 01:10:40 and there's 1.3 million on only fans. Stop it. Wait, is that all domestic? Yeah, that's America. There's 1.4 million U.S. women creators, and there's only, so I mean, obviously there could be some older, but that's like swath. That's like 3%. Literally, like, one in every 30 women that you, you, you,
Starting point is 01:11:04 walk if you come across one out of thirty are like one out of three okay that just that's that's great that's accurate that's that's a million women how many women like the media age of america there's a point to there's a point there's a point to my point guys there's a point there's a point to this which is we don't need any international he won't carry on they're taking jobs away from americans we listen no you did not go there no we have to reserve this for all the American women, okay? Like, we, we have enough. One of the, one of the things that I wanted to add to that, though, is that I did actually hear this before that, um, apparently, like, only the top one percent of the only, I don't know what
Starting point is 01:11:52 you call them, only fans creators are actually making, like, a living off of it. Like, everybody else, like, the other 99% are like very, very, they're just scraping by. They're just, So, okay, there's one point, there's one point six thousand people, one point six million, rubbing pennies together. No, I'm just looking at our live stream on Rumble right now, and obviously we'll have a lot more. But I mean, there's a good chance that we have some only fans models that are listening right now.
Starting point is 01:12:20 People really want to hear the percentage on this show. Statistically, listen, statistically. We've got one in the top right corner, which, which our argument would be is like, look, we've got plenty of jobs to go chase ballots this year. we come work for do that don't do the only fans though we do not need any HR problems with our ballot chasers no they work amongst themselves in their own community okay right so they ballot chase on only that's better than only fans no that's better than only so what's bad if you're
Starting point is 01:12:50 a beautiful if you're a beautiful person it's legal we want you going to chase ballots i'm looking at some of the images of these women that got the visas we can throw one of them up we do we i don't know if we need to blur it i'm i going to throw up i think we need this i think we need these are not They're not sending their best. They're not sending their best. Okay. So we need to say, sorry, we need to say, we need to say, let them in or be gone. You need to say let them in or be gone.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Yeah, throw that up. Go ahead, Noah. Throw that up. What do we got? What do we got? This is what we had to do to share it on this program. They're not setting their best. This is your new neighbor.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Oh, wow. Can't do it. Complicated. No, I'm not in. Be gone. Be gone. Yeah. No, we're, reject, reject, reject.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Reject. Be gone. No, it's not bien. President. President Maduro, do you have only fans in Venezuela? No, I shut down. I shut down. Oh, you shut down.
Starting point is 01:13:52 They do it for me for free. Oh, for free. I see. Interesting. Oh. I heard you allow me to. I heard that was your big selling point. Wait, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:02 gay marriage either. No problem. But why you say my Celia not beautiful? Can you show 3, 4, 8? Yes, yes. Oh, that was Celia.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Guys, I didn't realize that was a picture of his wife. Andrew, what did you tell me? Ah, Dios, Mijo. What guapo. Que gropo. What hermosa.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Hey, it's very bel. Presidente. You're out kicking your coverage. Here, look at that. You married up. You married up. See, I did.
Starting point is 01:14:36 She isn't. That's not bad at all. I'm into it. I love you. I love him. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Adoro's got, uh, she's apparently a real, like, real harsh woman. Like, she's the, the muscle behind the regime. Look at her face. She was,
Starting point is 01:14:54 she worked for Hugo Chavez, too. Mad of the Mado. Yeah. Okay. She worked for Hugo. That's how, that's how, and she's, she apparently wields quite a bit of
Starting point is 01:15:02 power wheel did that's why they arrested her she was a she's a daddy she looks she looks not like a gen z batty that's not like a gen z batty though that's a different kind of bad aye aye aye aye aye aye she a buddy oh no yeah Madero was happy to spend a night in the the cell because he didn't have to deal with Celia I don't know she spank me if I know do good communism. Well, listen, in general, I think we should get rid of the H-1B. I think we should go full. We could do 25, 50,000 genius visas.
Starting point is 01:15:44 No social media influencers, or maybe like 100. But they have to be like really good. No, no, no. I think the best way to, the best research we can do on, if you want to understand social media influences, our policy should be, there's a thing. you guys can read, we were talking about history in this episode, let's do it again. So in China, they had a thing called the Cultural Revolution,
Starting point is 01:16:04 and they took their, you know, they took people in their cities, they took their educated elites and all of that, and they trucked them into the countryside, and they made them work as agricultural laborers. And they would humiliate, they would, you know, humiliate them and berate them and beat them and treat them
Starting point is 01:16:20 like crap, and occasionally they basically get murdered and all of that. And I only cite that as an example, because that's what you want to do. do that to the influencers. Keep the hookers and the hose out of our country. I don't want any of them. There it is.
Starting point is 01:16:36 None. There's my mass struggle sessions. 1.4 million women in America on only fans is a lot. And I do think that this is a real problem. This is like a bigger problem that I've just, I've made me thinking about the monetization of influencers has created a whole new channel of a different kind of lazy. mental illness yeah mental illness
Starting point is 01:16:59 and like and again in part this is part of the media just kind of slowly destroying itself and so now people are going to individuals
Starting point is 01:17:09 and they're getting paid to say things but I think that's created a whole new situation where you have a lot of people saying just crazy stuff on the internet you have a lot of people
Starting point is 01:17:17 just posting crazy stuff on the internet and genuinely it's not healthy for society society needs people who are productive and doing things that are contributing
Starting point is 01:17:26 and we don't have a lot of that on the internet. And that's a problem. Apparently in China, the state media makes rom-coms about, like, industrialists who are trying to develop new power plants and such. Really? I guess they just,
Starting point is 01:17:42 they have the order from on high. You guys have to make it cool to be a scientist and a manufacturer. This is why we're losing. Yeah, we have a king of queens. What does he do, like, sell insurance or something like that? At least that's a real job. Insurer, like, influencer. That is, I want to be.
Starting point is 01:17:56 famous for existing. That is a bad thing to aspire to. I mean, Jerry Seinfeld kind of is the blame for all this, right? How so? His whole, I mean, he was a comedian. Yeah, he was a comedian. That's a real job. I mean, I just watched Ricky Jervais last night. That's just, that's entertainer. At least people have to pay to show up. At least he has to write jokes and like, and you know, gig out. He has to do gigs and work, refine his craft and his sets. I mean, it's not, something better. It's not assembling and powerful. Also, in the show version, even in real life, Jerry, Sianville was a rich comedian in the show he's like a failing comedian. No, he's not failing. Remember, he buys his dad the Cadillac and it was like a big deal.
Starting point is 01:18:33 I mean, he shows how much you get made, how much, how much you pay for your, but he's not big time. He's like a normal, but he's, he has money. Remember, like, Elaine looks him like all like, she gets all like hot and bothered because she finds out he's got money. He's got more money than the rest of the crew. I have a confession. I've only seen about five. Oh my goodness. What? I'm younger than you guys. Seinfeld got canceled when I was like seven. You didn't watch all of Seinfeld during, during, uh, COVID. No. I don't even see me. You're allowed to watch.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Not subscribing to social media or not subscribing to streaming services. Oh, yeah, because Netflix has all of Seinfeld. No, but I just buy them. No, so after Charlie died, I literally rewatched all of Seinfeld. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm seven season in. Seven season.
Starting point is 01:19:15 I watched it. I think while at the same time that Charlie was watching it on during COVID. Who will not wear the ribbon? But the question is, are you going to watch Kirby enthusiasm? I can't get on board. I like curb. I do. But you know what? I would watch it because RFK's wife. That's what I'll do. Yeah. And well, but also because like there's a season of Curbenthusiasm, which is kind of like the Seinfeld reunion season as well. Yeah. Oh, it is. I didn't realize that. I'm not a huge curb guy. Yeah. He brings all of the cast back and they like, it's like, it's like a show within a show. So it's like it shows how the Seinfeld reunion takes place. But because it's Larry David, it's like you're watching a show about Larry David.
Starting point is 01:19:57 trying to do a Seinfeld reunion. And then so through the course of the whole season, you see basically like one Seinfeld episode. But like, you know, whatever it is. I'm still, I'm still pretty upset that Steve Bannon figured out a way to get some money out of the Seinfeld show. That was, I mean, good for him.
Starting point is 01:20:15 It's true. I'm not upset. It's true, Benon's still got a piece of it to this day. He's got a piece of the Seinfeld rock. Yeah. Isn't that wild? Hey, we're almost about to end, but we have to read a Rumble rant before we go. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Because we got one. This is from Sam. Sandra Gebhardt. Everyone needs to read. Can you guys guess the book that everyone wants to read? It's Jack Poso's Brave Book, The Island of Free Ice Cream. Oh gosh.
Starting point is 01:20:40 My 7-year-old overheard Mam Dani promising free bus rides, and he said, that man won't give those people free bus rides. So thank you, Sandra. Let's go. Jack is super hype. Thank you very much for that. Yes, everyone go check it out.
Starting point is 01:20:56 I don't even know that book existed, but it exists. Yeah, so in 2021, I put out with Brave Books, Love Brave Books, an anti-communist children's book called The Island of Free Ice Cream. And it's sort of a way to begin to teach little kids. You know, and it's a great series in general is also the introduction of one of the main characters in the series. But this book is all about teaching you how somebody walks up and starts promising you all sorts of free stuff. like I don't know an island of free ice cream that maybe just maybe they're lying because they want something from you and they want you to give it to them sweet um that's actually really cool good for you i'm so glad that something you did a few years ago jack is bearing fruit today with the younger
Starting point is 01:21:43 generation um no my my kid loves my kid loves the series like we don't do um we don't because there's like a like a larger story to the series and this is just like one part of it you can read them individually. But my kids, like, we don't do Star Wars, Harry Potter, or any of that, like, demonic stuff. So we just do, you know, like, for them, Brave Books is like their, they're, like, Avengers, Star Wars kind of stuff. Maduro, Presidente, Maduro, thanks for vener. Where did he go? Thank you, thank you, Mike. Thank you. Thank you very much. We've been going. I think some people want to watch the, uh, college football playoff that's about to start. So our team went
Starting point is 01:22:28 in Arizona. I remember Charlie playing us all the time. They found one of, they found Charlie's favorite Sionfeld bit. So how about we just close with that? And then, let's do it. And the show. So who is everyone, who's everyone pulling for? Hang on. Miami or Ole Miss. I don't care. Ole Miss. We had that
Starting point is 01:22:44 big event there. Let's go ahead and play the Elaine Kiffinless Ole Miss. And keep committing. Thought crime. You're checked in. Here's your AIDS ribbon. Uh, no, thanks. You don't want to wear an AIDS ribbon? Uh, no, no.
Starting point is 01:22:58 But you have to wear an AIDS ribbon. I have to? Yes. Yeah, see, that's why I don't want to. But everyone wears the ribbon. You must wear the ribbon. You know what you are? You're a ribbon bully.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Hey, you come on! Hey, where's your ribbon? Oh, I don't wear them. You don't wear the ribbon? Who do you think you are? Put the ribbon on. Hey, Cedric. Bob, this guy won't wear a ribbon.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Who? Who? I don't want to wear the ribbon. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

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