The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 113 ft. Raw Egg Nationalist — Suicidal Penguins? The Death of Masculinity? Obama Loves Pit Bulls?
Episode Date: January 31, 2026X star and author Raw Egg Nationalist joins the ThoughtCrime crew to discuss the week's most indispensible topics, including: -Is masculinity dying, and if so, why? -Why is Barack Obama linking events... in Minneapolis to raising pit bulls? -Why is the Trump White House posting memes about penguins with a death wish? Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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As you can see, I'm here in my tuxedo.
No, I am not auditioning for a wedding cake.
Are you going on like the next Bond film?
Are they doing a remake of Goldfinger?
No, I'm going to the premiere of Melania,
which come, which is going to be across town here at the next Bond film.
Trump Kennedy Center in about an hour and a half.
So I'm,
I'm dressed up.
So this is,
this is,
this is my,
my attire.
But as we know,
no suits.
So you got my suspender.
What's up?
We got,
we got Blake.
What's up Blake?
Yeah,
yeah,
howdy Jack?
But who's there with you?
And we got,
well,
hold on.
We have Tyler Boyer.
And I wanted to also introduce to the audience.
I think you may know this guy.
He's someone who has been out there on the interwebs.
Someone who's also,
by the web.
by the way, with somebody who Charlie Kirk was a big fan of and was always sending me his stuff.
So I wanted to get him on the show.
You're trying to get him on.
His name is Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, but you may know him betterized by his online moniker as the raw egg nationalist.
What's up, Red?
It's absolutely a pleasure and a privilege to be here, Jack.
So I wanted to get, let's get into this because your new book is actually going to be our first thought.
crime. Tell us about your new book and what is the thesis. So I've got a new book just come out with
Skyhorse called The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity. And it's about testosterone.
So it's a follow on from the Tucker Carson documentary that I was in in 2022. So I was in a
a documentary called The End of Men about testosterone decline, about this civilizational decline in
testosterone that we're seeing. And it's implications.
for men and also the broader implications actually for politics for the political system.
You know, what happens when you have a society that's full of men who have basically been
drained of their masculine essence?
So castrated.
So what you're saying is it's sort of like a reverse of what so many people think is going
on in society.
See, we think that liberal, some people say, well, liberalism is on the rise and that's why
you're seeing these new diets.
veganism, etc. You're saying it's the opposite. It's those diets and those, not just diets,
but chemical, it's kind of maha actually, but it's like the synthesis of maha and maga, really,
like Trumpism. Yeah, well, I think for too long people have considered, before maha in particular,
people have kind of failed to consider the political implications of ill health, and they've
really failed to consider the political implications of testosterone declines.
So testosterone, various different, you know, like gold standard studies have showed that
actually testosterone is declining in the US and actually throughout the rest of the Western
world at a rate of something like 1% a year, year on year.
Now that might not sound like very much, but that's a quarter in 25 years.
It's 50% in half a century.
And yes, I mean, broadly speaking, I think that a lot of these trends that we're seeing,
today are actually downstream of this
biologic, this profound biological change that's happening to men and has
been happening for decades.
You know, among other things, you could talk about the rise of leftism.
You could talk about political polarization.
That's something I talk about in the book.
You know, actually, as men lose their testosterone, I think they're more likely to become
leftists.
They're more likely to become leftists.
So, so, Blake, what you,
You've obviously, you've heard about this.
What is your sense of this?
Is this something that actually bears out?
Well, it's funny because I'm of two minds.
It does seem, obviously, we have, if you were to just look at society-wide,
I feel like we might have reached peak soy boy or something.
Actually, in the past, like, it felt like 10 years ago, there was that hipster,
hipster aesthetic, the Reddeter aesthetic, that peaked.
Now when I think about, when I think about young,
people I always think about the like the the the lifting cult guys and it's funny
because it feels like so omnipresent that you'd assume it's all over the place
but like 50 years ago nobody was going out and lifting weights three times a
week to be strong nobody was doing a lot of this really ambitious fitness stuff
but it does seem like testosterone was higher I guess since we have the eggster here
first of all I guess a lot of people are going to ask
why raw eggs specifically, but is it, do you think it is primarily an environmental thing,
or do you think it's a lifestyle thing? Or basically, can an individual fix the testosterone crisis,
or is this a gigantic scientific public health matter?
Okay, so on the raw egg thing then, yeah. So raw eggs, raw egg nationalism became a thing,
really in 2020. It's the reason I started posting on Twitter, there was this
hashtag going around raw egg nationalism.
And it was about people knocking back large quantities slonking is the technical term, actually, slonking large quantities of raw eggs.
Do you have a slonking record?
What is your slonking record?
I think the most I ever slunked in a day was 28.
Oh, so 28, 28 raw eggs in a day.
Does they speak it out?
Is cooking them bad?
Because it just kind of sounds gross to me.
So, yeah, I didn't take them all at once.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, like, Hulk Hogan would.
Hulk Hogan would, but I mean, he was a different beast.
You can't look like, I would never tell somebody don't eat cooked eggs.
Like if you can't stomach raw eggs, then by all means scrambled, whatever, cooked, fried, boiled.
But the raw thing is largely to do with, A, the quantity that you can consume any one time.
So like, you may have seen Cool Hand Luke, the Paul Newman film, right, where he's challenged to eat 50 boiled eggs.
it nearly kills him, but you can very easily knock back 50 raw eggs, you know, just drinking them.
But then there's also the issue of preservation of the nutrients.
So you get certain nutritional benefits when you consume eggs raw rather than cooked.
It preserves the cholesterol in particular.
And now we've been told for 100 years, you know, that cholesterol is very bad for you.
But actually the opposite is the case.
And thankfully now, you know, RFK Jr. has upended the food pyramid and restored cholesterol rich foods to their rightful places, as the kind of building blocks of the American diet.
But I think this is a, it's an individual and a societal problem. So there are definitely things that you can do as an individual to improve your hormonal health.
Absolutely. And I regularly give advice on my Twitter account, on my substack, and in this book, you know, there are simple things that you know,
There are simple things that you can do, lifting weights, cleaning up your diet, learning how to cook, avoiding processed foods, sleeping better.
Sleep is a big one, actually, that people really don't pay enough attention to.
So there was a study that showed, for example, that if you double your sleep as a man from four hours to eight hours a night, you can double your testosterone levels because the vast majority of testosterone is produced at night during sleep.
So if you don't sleep properly, you're not going to produce enough.
But then there are these big, I think, societal problems, things like pesticides, herbicides in the food and water, PFSAS chemicals, plastic chemicals, microplastics, environmental pollution, all that kind of stuff.
And really, you know, that's something that government needs to be involved in.
And that's why we need Make America Health again.
That's why we need this grand health campaign that centers on cleaning up the environment.
educating people, improving herbicide and pesticide regulations, all this kind of stuff.
So that's the thought crime. I love this idea because you're combining basically Maha with
everything that we're seeing politically that's going on. The name of the book is the last man.
Why is that the name of the book if this is the subject? Yes. Well, so the book is actually
kind of based the book is kind of based on
Fukuyama's end of history thesis. It's a kind of quite a bold reappraisal or a
restating of what Francis Fukuyama is saying happens at the end of history. You know the triumph of liberal democracy
over all other alternative political systems.
Fukuyama talks about the triumph of liberal democracy as
the victory of a certain kind of Fymus and Fymus is this ancient Greek word that was used
used to describe spiritedness, the things that animate man, that give him motivation, that make
him patriotic and courageous, etc. But what Fukuyama says is that actually the triumph of liberal
democracy is, it's a victory of one kind of time or so for another. And so, you know, in a liberal
democracy, you can be recognized as equal with your fellow man, but you can't be recognized as
better, which is a fundamental aspect actually of being a man.
of masculinity, of Fymus.
Well, what does that actually mean?
It means that we've created a political system
that is potentially at odds with certain aspects
of the male character and psyche, the drives,
the things that push men to succeed.
So not only are we facing this kind of biological crisis
where we're being pumped full of pesticides and herbicides
and we're eating bad diets and we're not sleeping
and we're exposed to blue light all the time,
chronic stress, but also actually we've created a political system that is hostile to masculinity.
And so the last men is this is this idea that actually we've arrived at the end of history,
and we've created a creature, a type of man who is not fully a man.
And so I pose these quite, quite big kind of philosophical.
Wait, wait, so what you've done here, I think I figured this out, you've explained D&T for mugshots.
Maybe I have.
This entire thesis is why we have.
have why they all look that way why they all have this it's it's it's it's it's diet it's
lack of testosterone and it's it's it's it's kind of a spirit or a lack of spirit or a hateful
spirit and a resentment so this is why you get and you and I would you're on my show earlier
today and we were talking about the fact that they so Tyler did you see how they uh I think
I saw you tweeting about this how they used AI on the Alex Preti um photo to like kind of like
Make it look hotter.
Yeah.
Insane.
Totally insane.
It was funny because it was like he had slightly askew, like eyes and hair.
And then he had like a sickly pallor on his skin.
So they had to tan him up, jazz him up.
Yeah.
It was a very strange look.
It looked like legitimately like one of those really obvious face tunes that they did.
They just put them there.
It's like that ended up.
I think media outlets ran that photo and stuff.
I know.
It's great.
Totally.
That's the one they went with.
They rolled with.
Which you do wonder.
Is this sustainable because as people joked, it was like people would call him a martyr, but they still got the ick from his photo.
It does seem like the termination loop on this is just these people can't reproduce then.
And so they just disappear.
And then you you rebalance back to something that makes more sense.
But they reproduce by other means.
That's why they go after the kids.
That's why they do the grooming.
That's why they have all the stuff into education.
So they reproduce by going after your children, basically, and taking them over mentally.
So, and this guy who, and we've been doing some reading on this, that, you know, he was this Alex
Freddie.
And you look at that first picture.
And actually, you know what?
You know what?
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Dr. Tornishdale, could you describe the diet and the lifestyle of the man you see in the original
photo here?
Yeah.
The man I see in the original photo is, he's a vegan, I would imagine, or certainly he's living on some kind of plant-based diet.
He doesn't get much sun.
I don't think he exercises.
He looks like he's skinny fat.
So, you know, he's got, he's probably got man boobs.
He's probably got low testosterone or other.
I should be talking to past tense, shouldn't I?
Actually, he probably had low testosterone.
own yeah he's not he's not a model of the jaw line they've changed the jawline
they've changed his jawline they have yeah I mean they've give they've chat they've
chaddiveied him they've tried to make him into a into a gigacad I mean it's it's
funny because you know the high mark I suppose for this is Luigi Mangione right
oh wait wait and mouth breathing mouth breathing yeah he's a habitual mouth breather
too I would imagine he probably has some unpleasant habits really particularly
want to look at his internet history. Why is it that mouth breathing leads to that very tight neck
that way? Well, what it does is if you, let's say you have an undiagnosed allergy as a child,
if you habitually mouth breathe, as your skull is developing, your mouth is open, it pushes
your jaw back, it recesses the jaw so that actually what happens is it looks like you don't have
a chin, right? I mean, you do have a chin. It's just in the wrong position. It's in your neck.
That's real?
Yes, this is, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, it's absolutely real.
How bad are we talking?
That's insane.
Allergies make you have a messed up head.
They can do, yeah.
Well, you're saying if they're perpetual.
Yeah, if you're like a child and you have like an undiagnosed pet allergy
and you're constantly breathing through your mouth for like 10 years as you develop
from a 6 year old to a 16 year old, then yeah, your skull will not develop properly.
Your jaw will become recessed and you'll basically.
have no chin. I mean, you do have a chin, but it's in your neck and it's back. That is why people have,
that's why people are chinless. That's why if you see a chinless man, he probably is a habitual mouth
breather. They say the same thing about eating hard foods when you're young. Yes. Yeah, there's that
too. So I mean, you know, there's there's a lot of anthropological evidence, you know,
in traditional societies, diet is much harder. People chew more, you know, and in traditional societies as well,
people use their mouths to do leather work and, you know, make rope and stuff. So people use their
jaws and their facial muscles much more. We have a very soft diet on the whole. I mean, if you
eat a processed food diet, you're basically just swallowing your food without even chewing it,
you know, it just kind of dissolves in your mouth and passes down your gullet. And yes,
that means that the muscles of your face don't develop and the structure of your face doesn't
develop as a result. This is amazing. I love it.
I could do this topic all day.
So the book is The Last Men, Dr. Charles Cornish Dale,
the synthesis of Maha and MAGA, which I just think is really cool.
And Ova, I guess.
I think our Eggmeister will be very good on this topic, which is a very strange one.
And I think people watching are going to be a little baffled by it.
But we need to talk about the penguins, Jack.
the penguins.
And so this one,
I think I've had to explain this
four or five separate times.
You kind of just explained it with the Thumos.
Yeah, yeah. I guess I suppose he did.
But this all happened
kind of out of nowhere. I believe it began
well, it began a decade ago.
But then earlier this week
we had the Trump administration,
the White House actually,
they put out a meme, as it were.
Let's put up 480.
and it basically says like embrace the penguin or I can't see the text here but you just posted this image
and it was show it shows the Greenland flag so everyone was saying oh stupid dumb face mr. Trump thought that there are penguins on the North Pole but it is not that it's actually not about the North Pole it's about what the penguin
represents and we had an additional one uh the Department of War put out their own image saying to embrace the penguin that's 478 throw that up there
So everyone's posting about penguins wandering off towards the mountains.
And the weird thing is, is everyone's a fan of that penguin because it is committing suicide.
Yeah, that's literally what it is.
So we have this clip.
Let's still clip 487.
Let's play that.
It's from an old-
No, that's not why we like the penguin.
That's not why.
Let's let people judge for themselves.
So let's play the clip from the Werner-Hurtsog documentary.
Blake always does this, by the way.
By the way, Ren, he always does this.
He tells people what he thinks is the only reason that something's going on.
These penguins are all heading to the open water to the right.
But one of them caught our eye, the one in the center.
He would neither go towards the feeding grounds at the edge of the ice,
nor return to the colony.
Shortly afterwards, we saw him heading straight towards.
the mountains some 70 kilometers away.
Dr. Aenley explained that even if he caught him
and brought him back to the colony,
he would immediately head right back for the mountains.
But why?
One of these disoriented or deranged penguins
showed up at the New Harbor diving camp
already some 80 kilometers away from where it should be.
Rules for the humans are,
do not disturb or hold up the peasant.
penguin, stand still and let him go on his way.
And here, he's heading off into the interior of the vast continent.
With 5,000 kilometers ahead of him, he's heading towards certain death.
I could listen to Werner Herzog talk, all, narrate anything all day.
He is headed towards certain death.
No, that's, but why?
This is just another, you know, more propaganda to get people away.
from the ice walls. Don't go that direction. Oh, oh, do you think that's what this is about?
Don't go towards the ice walls. No, I'm too. No. We should do that. We should do the dot-prime voyage.
What's the reference? What's behind the ice walls? Tyler. Yeah. What's behind? I don't know.
What's behind the ice walls? What do you mean? What do you don't know what's behind the ice walls? We don't know. What's behind the ice walls? We don't know. What's behind the ice walls. We don't know. A got to tell you. You don't know. You're definitely
have to explain to other people what a Gartha is
but no it is true like there is a funny
thing like I know you guys are joking
about it but he kind of the penguin
basically is a meme because people are
saying embrace the penguin's
suicidal surge in the
unknown no it's not what they're saying it's not
it's not suicide no no so you
there are these there are like reditors
I saw who were saying like oh yeah
the the penguin represents
the kind of deranged
nihilism of capitalism where
You know, we're all just heading towards inevitable doom.
No, it's not that.
It's, it's, Oswald Spengler writes about this.
It's the Faustian spirit.
The penguin embodies the Faustian spirit, the will, the desire to know,
the desire to overcome, the desire to transcend and to achieve the transcendental.
Even at the cost of death, it's the, it's the great impulse that has motivated Western society,
Western civilization and brought it to greatness.
It's what built the Gothic cathedral.
It's what resulted in calculus.
It's what drove us to the moon and hopefully will drive us beyond.
This penguin is, this penguin is experiencing this profound drive, the Faustian spirit.
And he's prepared to die.
The way that, the way that people have said this, for years, the common phrase, the mountains beckon us.
The mountains are beckoning us.
He feels the call of the mountain.
He must go and see what is on the other side.
He must climb the mountain.
He must achieve greater.
That's why the penguin will not stop.
Because, as we all know, outside of death, all failure is psychological.
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man you're making it sound like we should just make the national we should just change the national seal and have the the suicide penguin as the
official bird of the United States.
You don't know what's a suicidal penguin.
It could be.
Because you've never climbed the mountain, Blake.
You don't know what's over there.
There could be penguin utopia on the other side.
He's in a gothah right now.
He's in Agatha right now.
Yeah, I mean, I would say we could easily make a penguin our national bird and put it on
the seal if we annexed Antarctica.
I'm going to keep flogging that hobby horse.
That's how you, that's how you square the Greenland circle.
We should just seize Antarctica.
Tyler, Tyler, what's your take on the penguin?
You know, I kind of, I think the penguin is just having a rough week.
And, you know.
What, Mrs. Penguin told him he's drinking too much or something.
We're not, we're not even going to say why.
We're not even going to say what cause.
We're not even going to say why.
We're not going to talk about the garbage he forgot to take out or, you know, the, you know, the laundry he was supposed to pick up right away or, you know, whatever it is.
Tyler, it sounds awfully personal.
No, no.
Nobody's ever been in that position.
Listen, there's just sometimes a male penguin just needs to run towards the mountains, right?
And just, well, you mentioned the schlunk.
I think there's a slonking connection to me.
I'm thinking back to fourth grade science and emperor penguins.
I don't know if other penguins do it, but definitely the emperors, they sit on the eggs, right?
They kind of just squat on those eggs to keep them more.
Yeah, they have a huge.
Yeah, yeah, that's in March of the Penguins.
The one has to sit there and the others go out to get food, I think.
Yeah, so you can't schlank their eggs and there's no other eggs.
I'm a problem with that.
Maybe that's why they went mad.
If you sit on the egg constantly, but you can't schlank the egg,
do you go, you have to flee to Agartha, as it were?
I'm pro-penguine.
I'm pro-pengen.
Me too.
Producer Angelo says,
Mrs. Penguin found those text messages on his ice phone.
Oh, he's ice phone.
Very cute.
Now, I like the idea of, you know, again, I think that there is real need, especially when you're born into a community, you spend in a community, I think there's probably just a certain percentage of people who have to break away from that. And that includes penguins too.
Penguins, there's just a certain percentage of penguins who have to just break out and just get away.
And they don't have, they don't have screamo music and, you know, I don't know.
You listen to screamo music?
And ESPN3 to lean into.
You listen to screama music?
I'm just saying that just you seem really familiar with screamo music.
That just doesn't exist for penguins.
So they got to just run towards the mountains.
But that is the spirit.
That is the Western spirit.
That's the spirit that that's the spirit of why Turning Point USA was founded.
The spirit that you can do more.
The spirit that you can, that you can do something.
You don't just have to be, you don't just have to be a penguin who's in the herd, who's in the flock.
you can go and do something different.
Turning Penguin, U.S. Antarctica?
No, no, no.
Blake, Blake, turning point Antarctica.
Turning point, Tending point, Agartha.
Turning point, Agartha.
Turning point, McMurdo.
Turning point, Agartha has been actually,
has been actually operating for some time now.
Oh, it has.
Tyler, not too great, dude, we're live.
We can't.
Yeah, don't tell them.
Don't tell them.
We must protect your,
energy crystals
at all costs.
Oh man, we're in big trouble now.
But the one thing that I wanted to get into as well,
which kind of goes back to Alex Prattie,
is Obama.
Do you guys see this Obama statement that he put out
like in the wake of all this
where he's talking about, oh, we have to like support our neighbors
and what's going on in many, you guys see this thing?
Yeah, I saw it only because you sent it to me.
me because Pozo, I don't follow Barack Obama and actively hang on every word that he says,
but I understand some people are a little different.
And we do, we do a show here, you know, and he's kind of like the leader of the opposition.
But, you know, whatever.
So, so he had this link and that he posted it up.
And he said, here's your resources that we can use to, you know, to support our neighbors.
And it's weird because I guess neighbor is like the new conference.
the new Tovarish, right Tyler Tovarish, to that they don't even refer to illegal aliens.
Because they realize that illegal aliens and undocumented and it all just got too wonky and too silly.
So they're just saying neighbors, which is the weird to say it's very communist.
But then here's what's crazy though. So it links to a Vox article where it says how to help the resistance to ice in Minnesota and
beyond and you scroll down and it's got all sorts of wild stuff yeah it's got the normal like
donate to legal funds and stand with minnesota which by the way i'm pretty sure is very similar
to the bail funds that michel obama or excuse me uh kamala harris shared back in 2020
but then if you scroll down and keep going down down down down down down down down
This is the weirdest one.
It says, there are other ways to volunteer, and my pit bull is family, has been helping vulnerable families take care of their pets, including when an owner is detained by ice.
And so I clicked on it.
I said, my pit bull is family.
What is this?
And it says, let's lick discrimination.
Let's bite discrimination's face off.
Let's let's make discrimination volunteer with us.
my pit bull is family.
What's going on with the pit bulls?
And why is it, I'm sorry, what is going,
why are pit bulls considered the pet of,
and you look at these people, they're all Antifa.
Why is pit bull like the Antifa pet?
Well, there's this long history of people claiming that actually pit bull is a euphemism
for a certain demonstration.
demographic, right? And so when people are talking...
I'm not familiar with that at all. No?
Well, so they're saying, you know, like pit bulls are only 13% of the dog population,
but they commit 60% of the savage attacks.
Is that true? I think, well, I mean, yeah, pit bulls definitely commit a disproportionate amount.
Wait, we kind of covered this before, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. Pipples are a giant, you know, killing machines out and about eating babies,
which they're eating the babies
other dogs won't eat as they might say
And in fact, I think your friend
Kremu just had a situation with this.
Yeah, Kramu, our friend down in Austin,
he was attacked by a pit bull
and we were just learning today
one of our staffers,
they had a parent who was attacked
by a pit bull in the past.
And I know our neighbor
back in South Dakota,
they had like a cousin
who was killed by a pit bull.
It's amazing how many of these you can find
if you yeah killed it that was that it was sort of they you have less somebody because they
I think were running like a breeding operation or they had some like large number of dogs and
you know despite having all those lovely dogs that wouldn't hurt a fly the dogs consumed them
as it were which is disgusting and there's there's um there's a ton of of statistics that people
can go on this so it's America's most dangerous breed um and and you can find the the data it's
It's very clear, actually, where is this from?
Dogbyte.org where it says that breeds and types of dogs involved in fatal attacks on humans in the U.S. from 2005 or 2017.
It's got given pincher, six, doctor, seven, labs, nine, Huskies, 13, across the United States, fatal attacks, American bulldogs, 15, Mick, breed, 17, German Shepherd, 20, Rotweiler, 45, hit bull, 285 attacks.
from pit bulls. And so this this has to do, and this is where people get really upset
on this because it has to do with how pit bulls were bred, which happened originally in
England. It did. So I'm going to get through it to you to explain this to us. How were pit bulls
originally bred? Well, as far as I know, I mean, they were bred as fighting dogs. I mean,
they're bred to be, I mean, I think they were literally thrown in pits and.
Well, that's where the name. So the name comes from,
them being thrown in fighting pits. Yep. So you would you breed the most over generations,
you know, constant cycles of breeding, you create the most aggressive dog that you can throw in a
pit that will rip another dog to shreds for the enjoyment of a crowd, you know, the most, it's blood sport,
you know. And that's the word bowl, that comes from the fact that they would actually have the
the dogs fighting actual cows, bulls. Yeah, yeah, they wouldn't just fight other dogs and they
would fight rats, but they would also fight bulls. They were savage enough if you threw enough of
them in a pit with a bull to kill a bull, certainly to, you know, to savage it in a very, very
nasty way. So these are dogs that have been bred that are genetically predisposed. Their whole
existence is violence. Well, I know. So this, of course, is the thought crime, because every single
time this happens, every single time we find a story like this, we get, I get flooded with comments,
I'm actually looking at the live chat right now where people are saying or people are saying,
oh, that's just a bad owner.
Oh, that's just a bad owner.
They don't know what they're doing.
They didn't train them right.
Bad owner makes it worse.
But, I mean, it's always in there waiting to get out.
And I mean, Crimea, I think he had the dog on his lap.
He was petting it.
Well, we met him at the natal con down in Austin.
Yeah, we did.
And he told me the same story.
He's a nice guy petting the dog on his lap and it just bites his face.
I mean, you know, what can you do about that other than wage a relentless war of extermination against all pit bulls?
Oh, boy.
So what's the status of pit bullies and bully breeds in the UK?
They're largely banned.
And in fact, I was going to say, my cousin in the 1990s was bitten on the eyebrow and still has a very bad scar.
Oh, wow.
They used to call them American pit bulls back then.
Oh, that's funny.
Yeah, which is funny, considering they're not.
were bred in the UK.
But yeah.
The reason I knew that the bulldogs were originally British was because of the British Bulldog
to the wrestler in WW.
Oh yeah, classic.
So good.
But yeah, I mean, I think there's, so there's been a lot of attacks in the UK as well.
So they've phased out the breed completely.
They have, yeah.
I mean, obviously you get the like here, then you get the sort of people whining and crying
and moaning and saying that it's discriminatory and that it's not the dogs, it's the owners.
And all the same stuff gets said.
But yeah, they do exactly.
They do exactly what they do here.
They attack and kill people, kill women, kill children.
So, Blake, what do we attribute this to?
Because what, what are you saying and what we're looking up to,
the statistics are very clear on this,
that this one breed is particularly violent.
And look, you can just go to daily.
Well, what's really incredible...
Headline after headlines backing it up.
Well, what's really incredible to me,
it's like, okay, this dog is clearly a dangerous one.
And what's remarkable, and what I think makes this,
relevant is the truly pathological response that clearly a lot of people simultaneously there are people
who wants to get a pit bull because they know it is a terrible dog and they like want to argue that
the pit bull is not a bad dog that it's like misunderstood or or whatever and i mean we see it with this
charity supposedly this charity my pit bull is family allegedly it's like oh it's just for people who
need support with their pets. But they didn't say my dog is family. They didn't say my pet is family.
They chose a pit bull. If they have that photo that we took of their like table that they have,
like they have a freaking pit bull mascot. And like they really lean into the pit bull imagery.
This is specifically a type of dog that there's a ton of them in shelters. Why are there a ton of
them in shelters? Because they're horrible dogs. And so people have to ditch them because they
bite their toddler, but they don't want to put it down. And it's truly, it's an insight into the
psychological state of a lot of people, not exclusively on the left, frankly, that they, they want
to go out of their way to get the dog that is more dangerous for them, to get the dog that is more
dangerous to other people as, I suppose a form of pretty aggressive virtue signaling, either
because they want to prove that it's the owner, not the dog, until, you know, they turn out to be the bad owner who's dog,
goes, goes nuts.
It's this, it's this true will towards ugliness, this will towards danger.
What ended up happy with this kid?
I think you're right though, is like, they know it's dangerous and like they want it to be,
which kid.
Like that's what they want it.
What happened?
What happened with that kid in that video?
I'm not sure.
I think we just got B-roll on it.
But yeah, there are definitely, I get, I've got into like the algorithm on Instagram.
I follow every victim of,
every pit bull attack.
I don't know why it just pops up on my stuff.
But like,
well,
I guess I'm watching it.
They're going to feed you.
I keep watching.
They have those algos.
But there's a lot.
Yeah.
There's like a lot of pit bull attacks that are completely underreported.
It's crazy.
There's probably.
So this is the question I have,
especially for thought crime.
Is there more damage done by pit bulls or by school shooters?
Wow.
Probably school shooters.
What would you find?
define damage though.
No, I know.
No, I'm like genuinely curious.
Dogs, as bad as Pitbulls are, they don't kill that many people in like a national
context. I think maybe what?
Like 10, 15 people get killed by Pitbulls a year?
Okay.
I mean, that's...
Yeah, but I mean, how many...
What I suppose you have to do is you have to do some kind of per capita analysis.
But it's like every year and then we're like across the world and like, I mean, there's
well, that's part of it. I think pit bulls are an American thing.
And like America and its cultural imperialist sphere,
I don't think you're going to find pit bulls if you visit Italy or something.
But part of my point is I think that a lot of this actually goes severely underreported.
I think there's a lot more pit bull attacks happening in America than we actually even know about because nobody ever talks.
I tell you, I see a ton of this content.
I guess it would only go if it got reported like to the hospital.
There's probably a lot of people who just get bit and just tough it out.
I mean, there's people, I mean, that I mean, again, yeah, like nobody ever gets held to it.
account either.
Like, where people, I mean, this happens a lot where dogs will attack.
And you hear obviously about people suing each other over dog attacks, but there's also
probably significantly more people who actually never sue their family member or
whoever for a dog attack.
Like, you're not going to sue your own family most of the time when you get attacked
by a dog.
It just doesn't happen.
It's not reported.
No, and it's something where, like, I think, so obviously, right, the thought
crime here is the question of the tabula rasa, right? This is the heredity, you know, heredity,
genetics, you know, is there a reason that, you know, people from certain countries are a certain way,
you know, the Somalis, the, you know, Europeans, whatever. This is the thought crime that,
that comes up, you know, can you overcome your heredity? Can you overcome? And then certainly you were
just talking about that with your book is to say that there are lots of factors. It is kind of a
hodgepodge of all these different things. However, there is still this innate nature and,
and twin studies have borne this out over and over and over again. Go read the book,
Blueprint, if you want to check that out. But also, I think maybe if we're doing a PSA, it's,
hey, guys, if your dog's not good around kids, get the dog out there before, before anything bad
happens. Just or, or, and if you do have a pit bull, then maybe just don't bring them around kids.
Also, embrace the message from Obama.
Embrace the message from Obama that pit bulls are a lib breed and a lib cause.
I say that only because two years ago, Florida banned local bans on pit bulls.
They basically said you aren't allowed to ban pit bulls from things.
I don't know why Florida did that.
They had a good run on a lot of things.
And that is a terrible law.
Wait, wait, wait.
Florida at the state level banned.
Florida at the state level banned.
local bans on pit bulls.
So you, you can't stop.
You can't stop.
You can't stop. You basically can't ban them.
You can't like locally, like a local community can't put in like a city or town ordinance against pit bull.
Yeah. Or like a public housing ordinance against it.
Yeah. Or like even like an HOA couldn't like ban pit bull.
No, no. So that was that was a big mistake by Florida in my opinion.
It's like, it's like when they get sciopped into those hair discrimination.
Yeah, but you, Pitbull, the rapper, probably would.
would be really upset with a pit bull ban in florida i'm just saying could we ban pit bull the rapper
no but i mean it's just bad for business if there's a pit bull ban i mean that's that's bad for
business if like we ban rappers that that headline pit bull ban florida like that's not great for
i mean i'm better record label was probably had a lobbyist involved with that so you might be right
just saying no send in your comments send in your questions what do you think about the pit bull
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You have a Somali brother?
I didn't know that. That's cool.
Look, all you have to do is feed him rice and bananas.
That's literally, he will work for more rice and bananas.
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It's kind of like a yurt, basically.
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