The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 113 ft. Raw Egg Nationalist — Suicidal Penguins? The Death of Masculinity? Obama Loves Pit Bulls?

Episode Date: January 31, 2026

X star and author Raw Egg Nationalist joins the ThoughtCrime crew to discuss the week's most indispensible topics, including: -Is masculinity dying, and if so, why? -Why is Barack Obama linking events... in Minneapolis to raising pit bulls? -Why is the Trump White House posting memes about penguins with a death wish?   Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:03 My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You've got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a turning point USA college chapter. Go start a turning point you would say high school chapter.
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Starting point is 00:00:52 The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers. All right, folks, welcome to today's edition of Thought Crime Thursday. As you can see, I'm here in my tuxedo. No, I am not auditioning for a wedding cake. Are you going on like the next Bond film? Are they doing a remake of Goldfinger?
Starting point is 00:01:28 No, I'm going to the premiere of Melania, which come, which is going to be across town here at the next Bond film. Trump Kennedy Center in about an hour and a half. So I'm, I'm dressed up. So this is, this is, this is my,
Starting point is 00:01:42 my attire. But as we know, no suits. So you got my suspender. What's up? We got, we got Blake. What's up Blake?
Starting point is 00:01:49 Yeah, yeah, howdy Jack? But who's there with you? And we got, well, hold on. We have Tyler Boyer.
Starting point is 00:01:54 And I wanted to also introduce to the audience. I think you may know this guy. He's someone who has been out there on the interwebs. Someone who's also, by the web. by the way, with somebody who Charlie Kirk was a big fan of and was always sending me his stuff. So I wanted to get him on the show. You're trying to get him on.
Starting point is 00:02:15 His name is Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, but you may know him betterized by his online moniker as the raw egg nationalist. What's up, Red? It's absolutely a pleasure and a privilege to be here, Jack. So I wanted to get, let's get into this because your new book is actually going to be our first thought. crime. Tell us about your new book and what is the thesis. So I've got a new book just come out with Skyhorse called The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity. And it's about testosterone. So it's a follow on from the Tucker Carson documentary that I was in in 2022. So I was in a a documentary called The End of Men about testosterone decline, about this civilizational decline in
Starting point is 00:03:00 testosterone that we're seeing. And it's implications. for men and also the broader implications actually for politics for the political system. You know, what happens when you have a society that's full of men who have basically been drained of their masculine essence? So castrated. So what you're saying is it's sort of like a reverse of what so many people think is going on in society. See, we think that liberal, some people say, well, liberalism is on the rise and that's why
Starting point is 00:03:33 you're seeing these new diets. veganism, etc. You're saying it's the opposite. It's those diets and those, not just diets, but chemical, it's kind of maha actually, but it's like the synthesis of maha and maga, really, like Trumpism. Yeah, well, I think for too long people have considered, before maha in particular, people have kind of failed to consider the political implications of ill health, and they've really failed to consider the political implications of testosterone declines. So testosterone, various different, you know, like gold standard studies have showed that actually testosterone is declining in the US and actually throughout the rest of the Western
Starting point is 00:04:12 world at a rate of something like 1% a year, year on year. Now that might not sound like very much, but that's a quarter in 25 years. It's 50% in half a century. And yes, I mean, broadly speaking, I think that a lot of these trends that we're seeing, today are actually downstream of this biologic, this profound biological change that's happening to men and has been happening for decades. You know, among other things, you could talk about the rise of leftism.
Starting point is 00:04:45 You could talk about political polarization. That's something I talk about in the book. You know, actually, as men lose their testosterone, I think they're more likely to become leftists. They're more likely to become leftists. So, so, Blake, what you, You've obviously, you've heard about this. What is your sense of this?
Starting point is 00:05:05 Is this something that actually bears out? Well, it's funny because I'm of two minds. It does seem, obviously, we have, if you were to just look at society-wide, I feel like we might have reached peak soy boy or something. Actually, in the past, like, it felt like 10 years ago, there was that hipster, hipster aesthetic, the Reddeter aesthetic, that peaked. Now when I think about, when I think about young, people I always think about the like the the the lifting cult guys and it's funny
Starting point is 00:05:36 because it feels like so omnipresent that you'd assume it's all over the place but like 50 years ago nobody was going out and lifting weights three times a week to be strong nobody was doing a lot of this really ambitious fitness stuff but it does seem like testosterone was higher I guess since we have the eggster here first of all I guess a lot of people are going to ask why raw eggs specifically, but is it, do you think it is primarily an environmental thing, or do you think it's a lifestyle thing? Or basically, can an individual fix the testosterone crisis, or is this a gigantic scientific public health matter?
Starting point is 00:06:19 Okay, so on the raw egg thing then, yeah. So raw eggs, raw egg nationalism became a thing, really in 2020. It's the reason I started posting on Twitter, there was this hashtag going around raw egg nationalism. And it was about people knocking back large quantities slonking is the technical term, actually, slonking large quantities of raw eggs. Do you have a slonking record? What is your slonking record? I think the most I ever slunked in a day was 28. Oh, so 28, 28 raw eggs in a day.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Does they speak it out? Is cooking them bad? Because it just kind of sounds gross to me. So, yeah, I didn't take them all at once. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like, Hulk Hogan would. Hulk Hogan would, but I mean, he was a different beast. You can't look like, I would never tell somebody don't eat cooked eggs.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Like if you can't stomach raw eggs, then by all means scrambled, whatever, cooked, fried, boiled. But the raw thing is largely to do with, A, the quantity that you can consume any one time. So like, you may have seen Cool Hand Luke, the Paul Newman film, right, where he's challenged to eat 50 boiled eggs. it nearly kills him, but you can very easily knock back 50 raw eggs, you know, just drinking them. But then there's also the issue of preservation of the nutrients. So you get certain nutritional benefits when you consume eggs raw rather than cooked. It preserves the cholesterol in particular. And now we've been told for 100 years, you know, that cholesterol is very bad for you.
Starting point is 00:07:56 But actually the opposite is the case. And thankfully now, you know, RFK Jr. has upended the food pyramid and restored cholesterol rich foods to their rightful places, as the kind of building blocks of the American diet. But I think this is a, it's an individual and a societal problem. So there are definitely things that you can do as an individual to improve your hormonal health. Absolutely. And I regularly give advice on my Twitter account, on my substack, and in this book, you know, there are simple things that you know, There are simple things that you can do, lifting weights, cleaning up your diet, learning how to cook, avoiding processed foods, sleeping better. Sleep is a big one, actually, that people really don't pay enough attention to. So there was a study that showed, for example, that if you double your sleep as a man from four hours to eight hours a night, you can double your testosterone levels because the vast majority of testosterone is produced at night during sleep. So if you don't sleep properly, you're not going to produce enough.
Starting point is 00:08:57 But then there are these big, I think, societal problems, things like pesticides, herbicides in the food and water, PFSAS chemicals, plastic chemicals, microplastics, environmental pollution, all that kind of stuff. And really, you know, that's something that government needs to be involved in. And that's why we need Make America Health again. That's why we need this grand health campaign that centers on cleaning up the environment. educating people, improving herbicide and pesticide regulations, all this kind of stuff. So that's the thought crime. I love this idea because you're combining basically Maha with everything that we're seeing politically that's going on. The name of the book is the last man. Why is that the name of the book if this is the subject? Yes. Well, so the book is actually
Starting point is 00:09:52 kind of based the book is kind of based on Fukuyama's end of history thesis. It's a kind of quite a bold reappraisal or a restating of what Francis Fukuyama is saying happens at the end of history. You know the triumph of liberal democracy over all other alternative political systems. Fukuyama talks about the triumph of liberal democracy as the victory of a certain kind of Fymus and Fymus is this ancient Greek word that was used used to describe spiritedness, the things that animate man, that give him motivation, that make him patriotic and courageous, etc. But what Fukuyama says is that actually the triumph of liberal
Starting point is 00:10:40 democracy is, it's a victory of one kind of time or so for another. And so, you know, in a liberal democracy, you can be recognized as equal with your fellow man, but you can't be recognized as better, which is a fundamental aspect actually of being a man. of masculinity, of Fymus. Well, what does that actually mean? It means that we've created a political system that is potentially at odds with certain aspects of the male character and psyche, the drives,
Starting point is 00:11:12 the things that push men to succeed. So not only are we facing this kind of biological crisis where we're being pumped full of pesticides and herbicides and we're eating bad diets and we're not sleeping and we're exposed to blue light all the time, chronic stress, but also actually we've created a political system that is hostile to masculinity. And so the last men is this is this idea that actually we've arrived at the end of history, and we've created a creature, a type of man who is not fully a man.
Starting point is 00:11:44 And so I pose these quite, quite big kind of philosophical. Wait, wait, so what you've done here, I think I figured this out, you've explained D&T for mugshots. Maybe I have. This entire thesis is why we have. have why they all look that way why they all have this it's it's it's it's it's diet it's lack of testosterone and it's it's it's it's kind of a spirit or a lack of spirit or a hateful spirit and a resentment so this is why you get and you and I would you're on my show earlier today and we were talking about the fact that they so Tyler did you see how they uh I think
Starting point is 00:12:20 I saw you tweeting about this how they used AI on the Alex Preti um photo to like kind of like Make it look hotter. Yeah. Insane. Totally insane. It was funny because it was like he had slightly askew, like eyes and hair. And then he had like a sickly pallor on his skin. So they had to tan him up, jazz him up.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Yeah. It was a very strange look. It looked like legitimately like one of those really obvious face tunes that they did. They just put them there. It's like that ended up. I think media outlets ran that photo and stuff. I know. It's great.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Totally. That's the one they went with. They rolled with. Which you do wonder. Is this sustainable because as people joked, it was like people would call him a martyr, but they still got the ick from his photo. It does seem like the termination loop on this is just these people can't reproduce then. And so they just disappear. And then you you rebalance back to something that makes more sense.
Starting point is 00:13:17 But they reproduce by other means. That's why they go after the kids. That's why they do the grooming. That's why they have all the stuff into education. So they reproduce by going after your children, basically, and taking them over mentally. So, and this guy who, and we've been doing some reading on this, that, you know, he was this Alex Freddie. And you look at that first picture.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And actually, you know what? You know what? Let's do it. Let's do it. Dr. Tornishdale, could you describe the diet and the lifestyle of the man you see in the original photo here? Yeah. The man I see in the original photo is, he's a vegan, I would imagine, or certainly he's living on some kind of plant-based diet.
Starting point is 00:14:06 He doesn't get much sun. I don't think he exercises. He looks like he's skinny fat. So, you know, he's got, he's probably got man boobs. He's probably got low testosterone or other. I should be talking to past tense, shouldn't I? Actually, he probably had low testosterone. own yeah he's not he's not a model of the jaw line they've changed the jawline
Starting point is 00:14:30 they've changed his jawline they have yeah I mean they've give they've chat they've chaddiveied him they've tried to make him into a into a gigacad I mean it's it's funny because you know the high mark I suppose for this is Luigi Mangione right oh wait wait and mouth breathing mouth breathing yeah he's a habitual mouth breather too I would imagine he probably has some unpleasant habits really particularly want to look at his internet history. Why is it that mouth breathing leads to that very tight neck that way? Well, what it does is if you, let's say you have an undiagnosed allergy as a child, if you habitually mouth breathe, as your skull is developing, your mouth is open, it pushes
Starting point is 00:15:11 your jaw back, it recesses the jaw so that actually what happens is it looks like you don't have a chin, right? I mean, you do have a chin. It's just in the wrong position. It's in your neck. That's real? Yes, this is, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's absolutely real. How bad are we talking? That's insane. Allergies make you have a messed up head.
Starting point is 00:15:32 They can do, yeah. Well, you're saying if they're perpetual. Yeah, if you're like a child and you have like an undiagnosed pet allergy and you're constantly breathing through your mouth for like 10 years as you develop from a 6 year old to a 16 year old, then yeah, your skull will not develop properly. Your jaw will become recessed and you'll basically. have no chin. I mean, you do have a chin, but it's in your neck and it's back. That is why people have, that's why people are chinless. That's why if you see a chinless man, he probably is a habitual mouth
Starting point is 00:16:03 breather. They say the same thing about eating hard foods when you're young. Yes. Yeah, there's that too. So I mean, you know, there's there's a lot of anthropological evidence, you know, in traditional societies, diet is much harder. People chew more, you know, and in traditional societies as well, people use their mouths to do leather work and, you know, make rope and stuff. So people use their jaws and their facial muscles much more. We have a very soft diet on the whole. I mean, if you eat a processed food diet, you're basically just swallowing your food without even chewing it, you know, it just kind of dissolves in your mouth and passes down your gullet. And yes, that means that the muscles of your face don't develop and the structure of your face doesn't
Starting point is 00:16:47 develop as a result. This is amazing. I love it. I could do this topic all day. So the book is The Last Men, Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, the synthesis of Maha and MAGA, which I just think is really cool. And Ova, I guess. I think our Eggmeister will be very good on this topic, which is a very strange one. And I think people watching are going to be a little baffled by it. But we need to talk about the penguins, Jack.
Starting point is 00:17:20 the penguins. And so this one, I think I've had to explain this four or five separate times. You kind of just explained it with the Thumos. Yeah, yeah. I guess I suppose he did. But this all happened kind of out of nowhere. I believe it began
Starting point is 00:17:37 well, it began a decade ago. But then earlier this week we had the Trump administration, the White House actually, they put out a meme, as it were. Let's put up 480. and it basically says like embrace the penguin or I can't see the text here but you just posted this image and it was show it shows the Greenland flag so everyone was saying oh stupid dumb face mr. Trump thought that there are penguins on the North Pole but it is not that it's actually not about the North Pole it's about what the penguin
Starting point is 00:18:08 represents and we had an additional one uh the Department of War put out their own image saying to embrace the penguin that's 478 throw that up there So everyone's posting about penguins wandering off towards the mountains. And the weird thing is, is everyone's a fan of that penguin because it is committing suicide. Yeah, that's literally what it is. So we have this clip. Let's still clip 487. Let's play that. It's from an old-
Starting point is 00:18:38 No, that's not why we like the penguin. That's not why. Let's let people judge for themselves. So let's play the clip from the Werner-Hurtsog documentary. Blake always does this, by the way. By the way, Ren, he always does this. He tells people what he thinks is the only reason that something's going on. These penguins are all heading to the open water to the right.
Starting point is 00:19:04 But one of them caught our eye, the one in the center. He would neither go towards the feeding grounds at the edge of the ice, nor return to the colony. Shortly afterwards, we saw him heading straight towards. the mountains some 70 kilometers away. Dr. Aenley explained that even if he caught him and brought him back to the colony, he would immediately head right back for the mountains.
Starting point is 00:19:41 But why? One of these disoriented or deranged penguins showed up at the New Harbor diving camp already some 80 kilometers away from where it should be. Rules for the humans are, do not disturb or hold up the peasant. penguin, stand still and let him go on his way. And here, he's heading off into the interior of the vast continent.
Starting point is 00:20:27 With 5,000 kilometers ahead of him, he's heading towards certain death. I could listen to Werner Herzog talk, all, narrate anything all day. He is headed towards certain death. No, that's, but why? This is just another, you know, more propaganda to get people away. from the ice walls. Don't go that direction. Oh, oh, do you think that's what this is about? Don't go towards the ice walls. No, I'm too. No. We should do that. We should do the dot-prime voyage. What's the reference? What's behind the ice walls? Tyler. Yeah. What's behind? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:04 What's behind the ice walls? What do you mean? What do you don't know what's behind the ice walls? We don't know. What's behind the ice walls? We don't know. What's behind the ice walls. We don't know. A got to tell you. You don't know. You're definitely have to explain to other people what a Gartha is but no it is true like there is a funny thing like I know you guys are joking about it but he kind of the penguin basically is a meme because people are saying embrace the penguin's suicidal surge in the
Starting point is 00:21:33 unknown no it's not what they're saying it's not it's not suicide no no so you there are these there are like reditors I saw who were saying like oh yeah the the penguin represents the kind of deranged nihilism of capitalism where You know, we're all just heading towards inevitable doom.
Starting point is 00:21:52 No, it's not that. It's, it's, Oswald Spengler writes about this. It's the Faustian spirit. The penguin embodies the Faustian spirit, the will, the desire to know, the desire to overcome, the desire to transcend and to achieve the transcendental. Even at the cost of death, it's the, it's the great impulse that has motivated Western society, Western civilization and brought it to greatness. It's what built the Gothic cathedral.
Starting point is 00:22:22 It's what resulted in calculus. It's what drove us to the moon and hopefully will drive us beyond. This penguin is, this penguin is experiencing this profound drive, the Faustian spirit. And he's prepared to die. The way that, the way that people have said this, for years, the common phrase, the mountains beckon us. The mountains are beckoning us. He feels the call of the mountain. He must go and see what is on the other side.
Starting point is 00:22:55 He must climb the mountain. He must achieve greater. That's why the penguin will not stop. Because, as we all know, outside of death, all failure is psychological. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y. Refai. You've probably been hearing me talk about Y Reefi for some time now. We are all in with these guys.
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Starting point is 00:24:06 man you're making it sound like we should just make the national we should just change the national seal and have the the suicide penguin as the official bird of the United States. You don't know what's a suicidal penguin. It could be. Because you've never climbed the mountain, Blake. You don't know what's over there. There could be penguin utopia on the other side. He's in a gothah right now.
Starting point is 00:24:26 He's in Agatha right now. Yeah, I mean, I would say we could easily make a penguin our national bird and put it on the seal if we annexed Antarctica. I'm going to keep flogging that hobby horse. That's how you, that's how you square the Greenland circle. We should just seize Antarctica. Tyler, Tyler, what's your take on the penguin? You know, I kind of, I think the penguin is just having a rough week.
Starting point is 00:24:48 And, you know. What, Mrs. Penguin told him he's drinking too much or something. We're not, we're not even going to say why. We're not even going to say what cause. We're not even going to say why. We're not going to talk about the garbage he forgot to take out or, you know, the, you know, the laundry he was supposed to pick up right away or, you know, whatever it is. Tyler, it sounds awfully personal. No, no.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Nobody's ever been in that position. Listen, there's just sometimes a male penguin just needs to run towards the mountains, right? And just, well, you mentioned the schlunk. I think there's a slonking connection to me. I'm thinking back to fourth grade science and emperor penguins. I don't know if other penguins do it, but definitely the emperors, they sit on the eggs, right? They kind of just squat on those eggs to keep them more. Yeah, they have a huge.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah, yeah, that's in March of the Penguins. The one has to sit there and the others go out to get food, I think. Yeah, so you can't schlank their eggs and there's no other eggs. I'm a problem with that. Maybe that's why they went mad. If you sit on the egg constantly, but you can't schlank the egg, do you go, you have to flee to Agartha, as it were? I'm pro-penguine.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I'm pro-pengen. Me too. Producer Angelo says, Mrs. Penguin found those text messages on his ice phone. Oh, he's ice phone. Very cute. Now, I like the idea of, you know, again, I think that there is real need, especially when you're born into a community, you spend in a community, I think there's probably just a certain percentage of people who have to break away from that. And that includes penguins too. Penguins, there's just a certain percentage of penguins who have to just break out and just get away.
Starting point is 00:26:37 And they don't have, they don't have screamo music and, you know, I don't know. You listen to screamo music? And ESPN3 to lean into. You listen to screama music? I'm just saying that just you seem really familiar with screamo music. That just doesn't exist for penguins. So they got to just run towards the mountains. But that is the spirit.
Starting point is 00:26:58 That is the Western spirit. That's the spirit that that's the spirit of why Turning Point USA was founded. The spirit that you can do more. The spirit that you can, that you can do something. You don't just have to be, you don't just have to be a penguin who's in the herd, who's in the flock. you can go and do something different. Turning Penguin, U.S. Antarctica? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Blake, Blake, turning point Antarctica. Turning point, Tending point, Agartha. Turning point, Agartha. Turning point, McMurdo. Turning point, Agartha has been actually, has been actually operating for some time now. Oh, it has. Tyler, not too great, dude, we're live.
Starting point is 00:27:38 We can't. Yeah, don't tell them. Don't tell them. We must protect your, energy crystals at all costs. Oh man, we're in big trouble now. But the one thing that I wanted to get into as well,
Starting point is 00:27:53 which kind of goes back to Alex Prattie, is Obama. Do you guys see this Obama statement that he put out like in the wake of all this where he's talking about, oh, we have to like support our neighbors and what's going on in many, you guys see this thing? Yeah, I saw it only because you sent it to me. me because Pozo, I don't follow Barack Obama and actively hang on every word that he says,
Starting point is 00:28:18 but I understand some people are a little different. And we do, we do a show here, you know, and he's kind of like the leader of the opposition. But, you know, whatever. So, so he had this link and that he posted it up. And he said, here's your resources that we can use to, you know, to support our neighbors. And it's weird because I guess neighbor is like the new conference. the new Tovarish, right Tyler Tovarish, to that they don't even refer to illegal aliens. Because they realize that illegal aliens and undocumented and it all just got too wonky and too silly.
Starting point is 00:28:58 So they're just saying neighbors, which is the weird to say it's very communist. But then here's what's crazy though. So it links to a Vox article where it says how to help the resistance to ice in Minnesota and beyond and you scroll down and it's got all sorts of wild stuff yeah it's got the normal like donate to legal funds and stand with minnesota which by the way i'm pretty sure is very similar to the bail funds that michel obama or excuse me uh kamala harris shared back in 2020 but then if you scroll down and keep going down down down down down down down down This is the weirdest one. It says, there are other ways to volunteer, and my pit bull is family, has been helping vulnerable families take care of their pets, including when an owner is detained by ice.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And so I clicked on it. I said, my pit bull is family. What is this? And it says, let's lick discrimination. Let's bite discrimination's face off. Let's let's make discrimination volunteer with us. my pit bull is family. What's going on with the pit bulls?
Starting point is 00:30:11 And why is it, I'm sorry, what is going, why are pit bulls considered the pet of, and you look at these people, they're all Antifa. Why is pit bull like the Antifa pet? Well, there's this long history of people claiming that actually pit bull is a euphemism for a certain demonstration. demographic, right? And so when people are talking... I'm not familiar with that at all. No?
Starting point is 00:30:43 Well, so they're saying, you know, like pit bulls are only 13% of the dog population, but they commit 60% of the savage attacks. Is that true? I think, well, I mean, yeah, pit bulls definitely commit a disproportionate amount. Wait, we kind of covered this before, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. Pipples are a giant, you know, killing machines out and about eating babies, which they're eating the babies other dogs won't eat as they might say And in fact, I think your friend
Starting point is 00:31:11 Kremu just had a situation with this. Yeah, Kramu, our friend down in Austin, he was attacked by a pit bull and we were just learning today one of our staffers, they had a parent who was attacked by a pit bull in the past. And I know our neighbor
Starting point is 00:31:26 back in South Dakota, they had like a cousin who was killed by a pit bull. It's amazing how many of these you can find if you yeah killed it that was that it was sort of they you have less somebody because they I think were running like a breeding operation or they had some like large number of dogs and you know despite having all those lovely dogs that wouldn't hurt a fly the dogs consumed them as it were which is disgusting and there's there's um there's a ton of of statistics that people
Starting point is 00:31:58 can go on this so it's America's most dangerous breed um and and you can find the the data it's It's very clear, actually, where is this from? Dogbyte.org where it says that breeds and types of dogs involved in fatal attacks on humans in the U.S. from 2005 or 2017. It's got given pincher, six, doctor, seven, labs, nine, Huskies, 13, across the United States, fatal attacks, American bulldogs, 15, Mick, breed, 17, German Shepherd, 20, Rotweiler, 45, hit bull, 285 attacks. from pit bulls. And so this this has to do, and this is where people get really upset on this because it has to do with how pit bulls were bred, which happened originally in England. It did. So I'm going to get through it to you to explain this to us. How were pit bulls originally bred? Well, as far as I know, I mean, they were bred as fighting dogs. I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:58 they're bred to be, I mean, I think they were literally thrown in pits and. Well, that's where the name. So the name comes from, them being thrown in fighting pits. Yep. So you would you breed the most over generations, you know, constant cycles of breeding, you create the most aggressive dog that you can throw in a pit that will rip another dog to shreds for the enjoyment of a crowd, you know, the most, it's blood sport, you know. And that's the word bowl, that comes from the fact that they would actually have the the dogs fighting actual cows, bulls. Yeah, yeah, they wouldn't just fight other dogs and they would fight rats, but they would also fight bulls. They were savage enough if you threw enough of
Starting point is 00:33:37 them in a pit with a bull to kill a bull, certainly to, you know, to savage it in a very, very nasty way. So these are dogs that have been bred that are genetically predisposed. Their whole existence is violence. Well, I know. So this, of course, is the thought crime, because every single time this happens, every single time we find a story like this, we get, I get flooded with comments, I'm actually looking at the live chat right now where people are saying or people are saying, oh, that's just a bad owner. Oh, that's just a bad owner. They don't know what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:34:12 They didn't train them right. Bad owner makes it worse. But, I mean, it's always in there waiting to get out. And I mean, Crimea, I think he had the dog on his lap. He was petting it. Well, we met him at the natal con down in Austin. Yeah, we did. And he told me the same story.
Starting point is 00:34:26 He's a nice guy petting the dog on his lap and it just bites his face. I mean, you know, what can you do about that other than wage a relentless war of extermination against all pit bulls? Oh, boy. So what's the status of pit bullies and bully breeds in the UK? They're largely banned. And in fact, I was going to say, my cousin in the 1990s was bitten on the eyebrow and still has a very bad scar. Oh, wow. They used to call them American pit bulls back then.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Oh, that's funny. Yeah, which is funny, considering they're not. were bred in the UK. But yeah. The reason I knew that the bulldogs were originally British was because of the British Bulldog to the wrestler in WW. Oh yeah, classic. So good.
Starting point is 00:35:09 But yeah, I mean, I think there's, so there's been a lot of attacks in the UK as well. So they've phased out the breed completely. They have, yeah. I mean, obviously you get the like here, then you get the sort of people whining and crying and moaning and saying that it's discriminatory and that it's not the dogs, it's the owners. And all the same stuff gets said. But yeah, they do exactly. They do exactly what they do here.
Starting point is 00:35:31 They attack and kill people, kill women, kill children. So, Blake, what do we attribute this to? Because what, what are you saying and what we're looking up to, the statistics are very clear on this, that this one breed is particularly violent. And look, you can just go to daily. Well, what's really incredible... Headline after headlines backing it up.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Well, what's really incredible to me, it's like, okay, this dog is clearly a dangerous one. And what's remarkable, and what I think makes this, relevant is the truly pathological response that clearly a lot of people simultaneously there are people who wants to get a pit bull because they know it is a terrible dog and they like want to argue that the pit bull is not a bad dog that it's like misunderstood or or whatever and i mean we see it with this charity supposedly this charity my pit bull is family allegedly it's like oh it's just for people who need support with their pets. But they didn't say my dog is family. They didn't say my pet is family.
Starting point is 00:36:34 They chose a pit bull. If they have that photo that we took of their like table that they have, like they have a freaking pit bull mascot. And like they really lean into the pit bull imagery. This is specifically a type of dog that there's a ton of them in shelters. Why are there a ton of them in shelters? Because they're horrible dogs. And so people have to ditch them because they bite their toddler, but they don't want to put it down. And it's truly, it's an insight into the psychological state of a lot of people, not exclusively on the left, frankly, that they, they want to go out of their way to get the dog that is more dangerous for them, to get the dog that is more dangerous to other people as, I suppose a form of pretty aggressive virtue signaling, either
Starting point is 00:37:19 because they want to prove that it's the owner, not the dog, until, you know, they turn out to be the bad owner who's dog, goes, goes nuts. It's this, it's this true will towards ugliness, this will towards danger. What ended up happy with this kid? I think you're right though, is like, they know it's dangerous and like they want it to be, which kid. Like that's what they want it. What happened?
Starting point is 00:37:40 What happened with that kid in that video? I'm not sure. I think we just got B-roll on it. But yeah, there are definitely, I get, I've got into like the algorithm on Instagram. I follow every victim of, every pit bull attack. I don't know why it just pops up on my stuff. But like,
Starting point is 00:37:58 well, I guess I'm watching it. They're going to feed you. I keep watching. They have those algos. But there's a lot. Yeah. There's like a lot of pit bull attacks that are completely underreported.
Starting point is 00:38:08 It's crazy. There's probably. So this is the question I have, especially for thought crime. Is there more damage done by pit bulls or by school shooters? Wow. Probably school shooters. What would you find?
Starting point is 00:38:25 define damage though. No, I know. No, I'm like genuinely curious. Dogs, as bad as Pitbulls are, they don't kill that many people in like a national context. I think maybe what? Like 10, 15 people get killed by Pitbulls a year? Okay. I mean, that's...
Starting point is 00:38:40 Yeah, but I mean, how many... What I suppose you have to do is you have to do some kind of per capita analysis. But it's like every year and then we're like across the world and like, I mean, there's well, that's part of it. I think pit bulls are an American thing. And like America and its cultural imperialist sphere, I don't think you're going to find pit bulls if you visit Italy or something. But part of my point is I think that a lot of this actually goes severely underreported. I think there's a lot more pit bull attacks happening in America than we actually even know about because nobody ever talks.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I tell you, I see a ton of this content. I guess it would only go if it got reported like to the hospital. There's probably a lot of people who just get bit and just tough it out. I mean, there's people, I mean, that I mean, again, yeah, like nobody ever gets held to it. account either. Like, where people, I mean, this happens a lot where dogs will attack. And you hear obviously about people suing each other over dog attacks, but there's also probably significantly more people who actually never sue their family member or
Starting point is 00:39:38 whoever for a dog attack. Like, you're not going to sue your own family most of the time when you get attacked by a dog. It just doesn't happen. It's not reported. No, and it's something where, like, I think, so obviously, right, the thought crime here is the question of the tabula rasa, right? This is the heredity, you know, heredity, genetics, you know, is there a reason that, you know, people from certain countries are a certain way,
Starting point is 00:40:06 you know, the Somalis, the, you know, Europeans, whatever. This is the thought crime that, that comes up, you know, can you overcome your heredity? Can you overcome? And then certainly you were just talking about that with your book is to say that there are lots of factors. It is kind of a hodgepodge of all these different things. However, there is still this innate nature and, and twin studies have borne this out over and over and over again. Go read the book, Blueprint, if you want to check that out. But also, I think maybe if we're doing a PSA, it's, hey, guys, if your dog's not good around kids, get the dog out there before, before anything bad happens. Just or, or, and if you do have a pit bull, then maybe just don't bring them around kids.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Also, embrace the message from Obama. Embrace the message from Obama that pit bulls are a lib breed and a lib cause. I say that only because two years ago, Florida banned local bans on pit bulls. They basically said you aren't allowed to ban pit bulls from things. I don't know why Florida did that. They had a good run on a lot of things. And that is a terrible law. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Florida at the state level banned. Florida at the state level banned. local bans on pit bulls. So you, you can't stop. You can't stop. You can't stop. You basically can't ban them. You can't like locally, like a local community can't put in like a city or town ordinance against pit bull. Yeah. Or like a public housing ordinance against it.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Yeah. Or like even like an HOA couldn't like ban pit bull. No, no. So that was that was a big mistake by Florida in my opinion. It's like, it's like when they get sciopped into those hair discrimination. Yeah, but you, Pitbull, the rapper, probably would. would be really upset with a pit bull ban in florida i'm just saying could we ban pit bull the rapper no but i mean it's just bad for business if there's a pit bull ban i mean that's that's bad for business if like we ban rappers that that headline pit bull ban florida like that's not great for i mean i'm better record label was probably had a lobbyist involved with that so you might be right
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