The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 114 — All-American Halftime Hoopla + AI Scott Adams? + Roblox ICE Raids?

Episode Date: February 7, 2026

The ThoughtCrime crew discusses the forthcoming All-American Halftime Show, along with other rich topics like: -Should Dilbert creator Scott Adams be immortalized in AI? -Has Blake heard any songs wri...tten after the year 2007? -Is it a good sign that kids are reenacting ICE raids in Roblox? Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:03 My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You've got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a turning point USA college chapter. Go start a turning point you would say high school chapter.
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Starting point is 00:00:56 The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers. All right, folks. We are back. Welcome to Thought Crime Thursday. We're here, I believe, and we have a great show in store for all of you,
Starting point is 00:01:21 and I believe, and I think I haven't seen that confirmed now, that we have all four of the current co-host, of course, our fifth co-host on assignment in heaven. But we have got Blake, Tyler, and Andrew, all here. We hear. It's a remarkable achievement. We have all four standard people at the standard time.
Starting point is 00:01:46 It's amazing. At the stated schedule, it's like we don't usually see it. Everything would all, in our correct chairs, in our correct postures, because we're so excited about the all-American half-tons. Everything would be perfect,
Starting point is 00:01:57 except that Andrew forgot the dress code rules. And so he's in like a undershirt or something right now. The show. I'm in an undershirt. I did it. I want a sweatshirt. We all took Andrew out back, beat the crap out of him, and took his jacket away. You guys are very mean about this.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Like, I have an iconic jacket, and you don't see me wearing it on this show. No, it's, it's amazing. Blake is wearing my jacket. Blake is wearing the white shirt altered a little bit. Bigged up from the tailor, but I'm not wearing it. Nope, nope. Well, here we are. We made it.
Starting point is 00:02:29 We're live. We're live. So, hit us a chat. If you guys have comments, send us the comments. So we're taking chat. We'll totally read them and react to them and possibly hate on them. I have them up. But as so here's, all right, ground rules, ground rules, right?
Starting point is 00:02:44 So we all know different bits and pieces about the All-American halftime show. I imagine we're going to get a lot of questions about that. So we should probably set some ground rules because I know Kid Rock has been going around saying that he's got a surprise, but he doesn't want to reveal it. He wants to maintain the element of that. Obviously, we all know things. So what are the ground rules for talking about the All-American halftime show, which will be the only halftime show this weekend? The ground rules are that we call it the game.
Starting point is 00:03:18 A game. There's a lot of games this weekend. It's a sporting event. A sports game. It's an important game that lots of people tend to wear. I mean a lot. Yeah, it's like all of the preliminary hockey rounds of the Winter Olympics. I was watching them.
Starting point is 00:03:31 And we can also say definitively that. that it is part of a league that a lot of people are familiar with. League of Legends. League of Legends. We're going to call it the League of Legends. That would be your legend. We put out some tweets about it. I think people know about it now.
Starting point is 00:03:49 But we can't talk about anything because, I mean, we'll explain probably a little bit more after all this is. Who's the way? We can talk about the lineup. Let's get the lineup up there again. We are excited to be bringing Kid Rock, Brantley Gilbert, Lee Bryce, Gabby Barrett, all to the All-American Half-Time show. It will be streaming live around 8 p.m. Eastern on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Well, there you go. That's not from... That was Kid Rock at the R&C. I was there. That is not from our event. Because it hasn't happened yet. People liked it. Look at JD. It would be like a temporal displacement.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Usha, Usha not into it. as much. Was he actually doing Werewolves of London? So, no. No, no. He has a song that uses that samples where it was a
Starting point is 00:04:44 Okay. Show us how much I know. Yeah, so. But it's, what I want to say is you can watch the show right here on Rumble. All summer long. You can watch the show right here on Rumble.
Starting point is 00:04:56 All of Turning Point social media channels are going to have it. So TPSA, TPSA, YouTube X and Rumble. Charlie. Charlie. Charlie's, yeah, we'll put it up on Charlie's stuff. In addition to social media, and by the way, all of the people have a YouTube app on your TV these days. So you can have it ready to go if you want to switch over that way. Other ways to watch it, Sinclair's broadcast OTT channel, Charge.
Starting point is 00:05:22 So that's Samsung Plus, YouTube TV, Hulu, Sling, all those things. Daily Wire Plus, TBN, Real America's Voice, where we have the Charlie Kirk Show and Jack Posobics Daily Show. Speak for yourself, Andrew. You say everyone's got a YouTube app on their TV now, but I will have you know. I watch television the way God intended on a wooden cathode ray tube television set. Wait, wait, wait, do you have bad bunny ears on your TV? It does not have the bunny ears.
Starting point is 00:05:51 It has knobs. It has literal physical knobs. He will forever be known as Canejo Malo. Canejo Malo. Canejo Malo. Because we have four months to learn Spanish. I've been practicing it because you can. guys all know. Yes. Yes. I'm quarter mexican. So I have a I have a total pass today just to go
Starting point is 00:06:12 ham on all that kind of conversation because I'm one of them. Well, we had talked on on our group chats trying to agitate the government into doing flyovers over no but big game. We need a NHS deportation plane flyovers just ride over say ice. Pilo was trying to call in an airstrike right over. No, I didn't say that. I'm going to pause. Disavow. Disavow. And then I'm going to continue the sentence. Fly right over, you know, the San Francisco. It's not even San Francisco. There it goes. Yeah, they play like it's like four hours away with traffic. I mean, if you were going to plan a bunch of, you know, flights, you know, just test flights. I think they should be loaded. They should be going over Santa Clara over and over and over. I think what they should do, genuinely, you know, is load up a couple of DHS deportation planes bound for Seacot, load them up there,
Starting point is 00:07:07 fly them over, buzz the stadium, and then do a big ad during the Super Bowl of all the killers that they got out like child sex traffickers. Drop leaflets. Just drop, no, drop people that just got deported to Buckele's Seacott prison. That would be really cool.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Maybe like identify one person who might be at that stadium who might be a foreigner who, who might be a foreigner who has some sort of outstanding war. You know, there's, what, 80,000 people there. There might be one. You ID one of them, and then you have an excuse to parachute in ice agents. They land on the field and arrest that person.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And just to make matters more interesting, it could be, we could bring in 700 agents that were just, that were part of the drawdown in Minneapolis, but we repositioned those assets in Santa Clara. And those are the guys that parachute in. Well, they all, and they just start raiding down the, the, you know, the, The government also probably has the ability to, you know, shut the grid down right at half time. I was going to say, what if they use some of those sonar? Don't hurt innocent people, like, who are not at the game.
Starting point is 00:08:13 But what you could do, maybe they could say there's a security hazard and they say, guys, to make sure everyone's safe, they all need to go through this advanced scanner that they have for security. And then you only give them one. That's what they would do. That's what the Biden administration would do for our event. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. We've been there.
Starting point is 00:08:31 We've been there. That's what they did. We'll call it. We think our audience knows the stories. We would host President Trump during the campaign. And Secret Service would basically like, we've got this. And they would just jerk us around. They'd give us two mags for like 17,000 people.
Starting point is 00:08:49 And people are waiting out in the hot sun. The metal detectors. Yeah, metal detectors. So people are like, I'll never forget this. By the way, it's a classic Charlie story. We were in South Florida. President Trump was coming to our West bomb. President Trump was coming to the event. So Secret Service has to go and advance everything.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Joe Biden's president. They give us like prop. What was it? Like a legitimate number. What was it? Like six mags in an event that size required something like 12. It may have been like three. I think it was literally one or two.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I think it was two mags. There was one choke point entrance. It was one choke point. Yeah, it was one entrance with two mags. All these people. Insane. I mean, we've got thousands of people that are trying to get into this. event and everybody had to go twist around in circles like we had to twist the line around this
Starting point is 00:09:37 parking structure and so what we had to do because the Secret Service was jerking president Trump around and jerking us around is we had to go by a bunch of big fans to like blow air on these poor people that were stuck out in the mass humidity and that super hot sun at least they were shaded but it was very hot it was it was it was probably hotter in that parking garage even though they were out of the sun than it was outside. So we had to get the big fans. This was when Biden was president, just so everybody knows. Yes, they were jerking Trump around because Biden was president.
Starting point is 00:10:07 And so we had to get pallets of water. And then Charlie was supposed to go up and speak, I think, or something. He had an interview, I think it was with Megan Kelly, if I remember right, and pushed that back and back and back. Because Charlie wanted to go out in the parking structure, shake everybody's hand. And man, did he get dressed down by a bunch of, like, mad people? like you need to run your event better and he's like listen this is not our fault this we've done everything right we can't get in the secret service to give us any more mags so we
Starting point is 00:10:36 go one by one and deal with all the pissed off people because he he did it though he was trying to kill people out in the what he went to every single i'll never forget that he did it was the whole day it was like a two-day event went to every single person in line yeah it took him hours and he was flaming mad flaming mad i've never seen charlie was um he was he was in rare form he was in rare And by the way, he was getting it, he was getting into it with people that were trying to blame this on turning point because he's like, this is not us. You know, like, but he was very gracious with people and tried to just make things right and had all the staff out there hand and water bottles out. It's so funny because otherwise my own, my main memory of that event is just that I think that was the day on the show we talked about Michelle Obama's Princeton thesis. I think that was it?
Starting point is 00:11:19 We did the show and we talked about that that day. So is that when the quote of the raw horsepowers of the like the mental horsemen. Which they take to, which they took to apply to all black women, but he was being very specific. It was about Katanji Brown Jackson, Michelle Obama, and Sheila Jackson Lee, right? Yep. Yes, I believe so. That was the black women. So that was all around.
Starting point is 00:11:44 It was a memorable day in the lore of turning point in the immortal, in the immortal lore. But, you know, there's a lot of stuff to talk about with the physically gigantic. game that is among several happening this weekend. One of those sports leagues. Yeah, yeah, in the League of Legends. Well, and with our show, which is going to be so amazing, which we haven't really, we have to talk about it a little bit. We are talking about it, even though certain things we have to keep a surprise.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Well, I'm excited like you said for the surprise. To me, most of it will be a surprise to me because they've, they've cut it so close to the vest. I didn't really know anything until we announced it. Blake's like, I don't even know any kid rock songs to the whole thing is the whole thing is the surprise. I don't know. I don't know any kid rock.
Starting point is 00:12:26 songs and I will admit. You don't know Ba'at, Ba'atabah? I don't. I know like one kid rock song and I had not heard of the other three people we've had on and I believe that they're pretty notable performers. They're pretty notable. I'm just totally out of the loop. Caboose, you got to get me a song from
Starting point is 00:12:42 each of our artist. Brantley Gilbert, I have a Brantley Gilbert story that I mean, it's not a super story, but as people know and we've talked about Charlie was not a super big country guy. I was also not a super big country guy and about i think it was 10 years ago about 10 years ago when
Starting point is 00:13:03 tanya and i first started um dating we uh or at some point and you know we were like first started dating that we um she for whatever reason comes to this country born in the soviet union falls in love with country music and she's like oh i really want to i really want to go out and you really want to come And I was like, well, you know, I really want you come to this show and like, I'm going with some girlfriends, but if you came. And I was like, well, who is it? She goes, Brantley Gilbert. And I was like, what's that? And she goes, well, it's country. And I said, okay, send me a picture of your ticket. And she goes, okay, fine. So I, uh, I may have snuck into the Brantley Gilbert concert using using a screenshot of her ticket to go in. And I actually liked it. I actually liked it. So, uh, we had a good time. I grew up listening to country music, but it was more like the George Strait version. You know, what's interesting is they had George Strait. There's a petition going around pushing George Strait as the, you know, as the, to replace the Canejo Molo at the.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Oh, I saw that. Yeah, that got like, got like 100,000 signatures, right? 122,000 last I checked. But it was like, you know, completely organic. But, you know, people, this is the thing. We are responding to market conditions. We are good capitalist. But also, you know, the family should have something, you know, that everybody can get behind and not worry about dresses and queer identity and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Okay? Like, really, there should be. There shouldn't be on us to do this like so much else in this country and politics and culture. But we're doing it. And Jack, why don't you tell because this is something I've heard a lot of, like, I've gotten this question a lot. And I always give you a shout out. How did this come to be, Jack? Yeah, so, I mean, ultimately, it starts with Charlie, just like everything.
Starting point is 00:14:57 It starts with Charlie, and I know you guys did this a while back, where Charlie used to always talk about the halftime shows. He had this one tweet. There it is right there. 2022, I'll never forget this one. The NFL is now the League of Sexual Anarchy. This halftime show should not be allowed on television. And like, I remember us being in the group chat, like, that evening, you know, him going. Jack, 2014, one like.
Starting point is 00:15:31 214. Clothing optional halftime performance, question mark. By the way, I love that he doesn't mention the league. He doesn't mention the event. Just half time. It's pretty perfect for right now. And I think we actually, do we want to play, I think we actually have a clip of Charlie. Let's play 3-4-3 in talking about it.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Look, the Super Bowl halftime show has a reputation. People say it's a spicy program. Okay, listen. Spicy. It's supposed to be boundary pushing. When you have the most televised event, this is true, most televised event for the entire year, one of the most televised events on the planet, by the way, that should be a reflection of the virtue that hopefully you want society to embody.
Starting point is 00:16:18 This is, Tyler's telling me here This is like flashback Charlie Because it's old set So this is the old set At the other building The first set The original set The original one
Starting point is 00:16:27 And there was a moment Where Charlie started wearing We got the sets Those were some of our first TPSA Hats It was just American Flaggland And he was wearing a hat Like every day
Starting point is 00:16:35 Which I always was like Because he never wore a hat Was he like having a balding scare or something No I just think he just Just like coming to the office He had the craziest mop of hair His hair started getting long That's like I got it
Starting point is 00:16:46 It's really long back That's the Charlie hair it eventually he embraced it but but like it was he would literally just roll into the studio well i would wear that hat every day too so we were just like we we were wearing that hat like i think that was like summertime-ish if i if i remember right but it was like during that covid era it was like right after coven i think yeah well and charley uh that's funny whenever i see him wearing a hat in those clips i'm like oh i know exactly what year that was what era that yeah yeah and the studio at which studio was then like what was going on at that time i think that was like literally like during
Starting point is 00:17:22 covid when we had to like because we we didn't take any turning point didn't take any covid money didn't take any p pfee money and so we had to like figure it out i wonder what what year was that do we know what i think that was 20 i think that was during covid it could be 20 2021 i remember that studio because charlie and i were in that studio broadcasting on j6 so that's like whenever i see that studio i think about me and charlie on j six going like well i'm really glad we're not there today It sounded like he was referring to the same thing he was referring to in that tweet. Well, so this was what's funny about that. So that tweet, the famous sexual anarchy tweet was about Dr. Dre and I think Snoop Dog was in there.
Starting point is 00:18:03 And they actually did a pretty good job compared to the year before of not making it super sexual, which was funny. Because so Charlie's reaction to it, sexual anarchy was a line that he was getting from, who am I thinking of? Oh, it was David Englehart. You've ever had that book called Sexual Anarchy? Was he just like going to say it no matter what the show was? So anyways, but so, so he, I, I was literally, you know, part of, you know, the, the protocol on Super Bowls for when you were, you tweet, what he was going to tweet. And I went to go, I was at a barbecue, went to go get some food.
Starting point is 00:18:42 And in like 10 minutes for me, like not watching my phone, he fired that bad. boy off. And I was like, did you, did you watch it? I remember, we were in the group. We were in the group shot and it was the same thing. Like, I had, was it paying attention. All of sudden I see this come through. I think I called you. I was like, what do? Instantly at, at like, trending. And Charlie shot to number one trending within like, and of course, of course me being me. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like egging him on. I was like, keep going. Go harder. Go harder. Go Max, go Max, Charlie. Go Max.
Starting point is 00:19:16 It was like literally took over the internet. So, but this was deep. And I said this story on Bannon, actually in January of 2025. So we just would won the election. We were there in D.C. for the inauguration. Charlie and I sat down with a reporter who was writing a profile on him in the New York Times magazine, Robert Draper. And Draper asked him.
Starting point is 00:19:37 He was a Draper. Yeah. Yeah. Do you like, so you've won the election. You've won all the house, the Senate. Like, what else? else is there to accomplish and charlie goes win the culture like didn't pause just goes i want to win the culture and um and so all this is like very full circle that uh it got memed into existence it's very us
Starting point is 00:19:58 that jack starts tweeting about it and then i start getting actual legitimate press inquiries going like are you guys going to be doing a half time show like is this really happening and i was like geez like this thing is taking a life of its own on the internet and i remember that one show i think we're on with temple right jack and i was like i think that we did the um the cross stream if i remember correctly yeah and i was like well well we were we had the someros on yeah we weren't going to but now maybe i think we should song we were playing when the sombreros were on if i remember correctly oh gosh okay they would know that yeah all right speaking of songs So, yeah, we just kind of went rogue and it, it blew up, it took over the internet, and it was like, we got to do it. It continues. It continues to, it was trending all day when we announced our lineup. Let's go ahead. Number one. Those who don't know, play, uh, caboose, play a Gabby Barrett song. Do you recognize that Blake? Blake is, you know, Pennsylvania native Gabby Barrett, by the way.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Okay. Pennsylvania proud. All right. So that song, like Taylor Swift. That's, that song. That's a lot. That's, you know, like Taylor Swift. That's, that's, went mega, mega huge. How about a song from Lee Bryce, Caboos? Just sounds like every country song I've ever heard in the last 25 years. I love country. You guys are- Jack said that Charlie wasn't big on country music.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I'm not sure Charlie was big on music. He liked classical music. I think, saying he likes classical music, I think is his just way of saying he doesn't listen to much music. You miss the chorus there. Keep it going, Caboos. I think Charlie was kind of, you know, rates of music a four out of ten kind of guy.
Starting point is 00:21:47 You just have to comment on this. Here it is. Hold on. Here it goes. Come on. That's good. So, all right. It's going to be good.
Starting point is 00:21:59 So, all right, let's play another one. Let's play Lee Bryce. Wait, was that Lee Bryce? That was Lee Bryce. Brantley Gilbert's next. Brantley Gilbert. I don't know this one, actually. This guy's, wait.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Brantley is a great conservative. Get, um, dirt road anthem. Didn't we have Brantam? Do you remember this? Yeah, Dirt Road Anthem is the one I know. Didn't we, uh, didn't we have Brantley? Brantley at America Festival a few years ago?
Starting point is 00:22:27 Yeah, we did. Yeah, he was at America Fest. Tony and I met him and his wife backstage, and I told them the whole story. He may have left out the sneaking into the concert part. Whoops. He would have liked it. And do we have a...
Starting point is 00:22:41 Actually, I do think I told him. Do we have a kid rock song? Okay, everyone's heard this song. All right. Even I know this song. All right. Well, I mean, I can't say he's going to... I can't say any of these songs
Starting point is 00:22:53 are going to be played, by the way. I'm just saying. I feel like he would be missing an opportunity to play this song. He could be on stage. I have a good feeling that's probably going to get to say. He could say on stage. This one's for Blake, so there's one song he's heard in this show. He should say.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Okay. Wait, do we have, do we have ba-baw-to-ba? I can't say it right. Ba-a-ba-wa-with-a. Ba-ha-with-a. He can't say it right because he's not a native English speaker. I just want to see more of those old people at the R&C convention. ball
Starting point is 00:23:25 going like this anyways he didn't play at the rnc i'll be all the yeah what did he play at the rnc i don't remember he did american b a he did uh cow i think he did cowboy like a like maybe like one verse it was like a medley um like a verse of that
Starting point is 00:23:42 and then he may have done a little bit of all summer long but i don't believe he played ball if the rnc is smart how they would do this would be like they have all the delegates in the floor but then for the concerts they would bring in like cool people yeah like arcade yeah instead of it being like if they were smart
Starting point is 00:24:01 they're not you guys are being they're not smart i think those people were seeing in those clips those are the coolest people i'm not saying they're not cool i don't know that i'm sure they're honestly we can probably get that done next time that's i'm saying that's i make perfect sense well it's my favorite kid rock song by the way that whole album it would be so easy
Starting point is 00:24:16 yeah it doesn't need to be a ton you slot if you get a few hundred spots for them and no you just crowd the state yeah you do the whole thing like we could we could do this easily if anyone anyone even picked at the phone was like hey could you guys help us make make this actually cool like we could help we would help they should ask us this is a this is a midterm convention they probably should ask you should ask so here's our here's our invitation to the rnc you should let turning point help you make it a little just let us help you yeah anyways um all right great cool so
Starting point is 00:24:53 And the team's doing a great job, by the way. Kudos to the entire turning point media and events team. It looks awesome. It's going to be awesome. Jack, you've seen the rehearsal video. I know you have. What do you think? I've seen, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Give us, like, take us in the room. Take us in the room. Not too much. Don't give away any secrets. What did the rehearsal look like? So, you know, it's kind of, like, I would compare it to like, like, when you see it, like, the Grammys, like, one of those. performances or like an Oscar performance, you know what I mean? It's a where it's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Yeah, like you're, you're, it's not, you know, it's not a stadium, but it's like a big, it's big, like it's really big. It's expansive. And the energy through, just through the roof, um, the level of the performances, just just incredible, you know, just it takes, you know, you could you could tie i suppose a line between you know having brantley and some of the performers at um am fest and a couple of the music nights that we had done there and then carry that forward but you know nobody you know i think thought that we'd ever get a guy like kid rock who actually did perform at a halftime show uh once before in his own right and uh it was i believe he actually played the same night as the infamous
Starting point is 00:26:19 wardrobe malfunction, so a lot of people didn't remember that he played. Yeah, I think it was that same night. You're right, he was. That's wild. So he performed in the most famous Super Bowl halftime show of all time. That was probably when Charlie was, but nobody remembers
Starting point is 00:26:34 because of the nipple slip. Yeah, well, yeah, that's all you're gonna remember. And in fact, he was the immediate predecessor to it. He went, he did ba-wood-ba and cowboy, and then it went into the Janet Timberlip. songs that they ended the show with. And yeah, so you're saying your overall, Jack, you're saying that if like tomorrow's Olympic opening ceremony is a one, this is like an 11 out of 10?
Starting point is 00:27:02 I mean, the world could, I'll put it this way, man. It's not only are these some of the best, you know, best performing and best performances of people that you could find in the country, I put them up against anyone in the world. you know, Olympics or otherwise. You want to talk about carrying the torch. And producer Fas and I were crunching some of the numbers on this last night because people want to play this game like, oh, bad bunny, you know, oh, you know, well, he's got more streams.
Starting point is 00:27:30 But really streaming is kind of like internet radio. So it's like, okay, he's played on the radio more than anyone, but does that mean that he's actually like people are putting up money in the United States for it? And so the way to look at this, you know, and Andrew, I know you have a background in this, where, you know, people are saying that you can, there's like a formula where they say, okay, this amount of streams would equate to this many album equivalent purchases,
Starting point is 00:27:56 and there's nowhere, like, it doesn't even come close to Kid Rock. Like, does not even come close. Again, in the United States to Kid Rock. I didn't realize how big Kid Rock was. I genuinely didn't. When we made the announcement, it was like, they call him kid, yet he is fully grown. He is fully grown.
Starting point is 00:28:15 there were so many people that were like I can't believe you got Kid Rock and by the way Kid Kid Rock has been legitimately amazing in this and he's put his heart and soul into this
Starting point is 00:28:28 the rehearsal footage that I saw was of him doing his special thing and I'm just going to leave it there I was alone we cannot talk about the special thing it's I'll put it this way It's kind of just like, like, you know how kid rock?
Starting point is 00:28:46 So we play ball at the ball, and everybody knows that that's sort of like the kid rock the first came out. He's like blending rap and metal and, you know, then he has cowboy, which brings country into it. But then he kind of pivots and he was like full country. Then there's Christian elements in some of the later albums that he's done. I'll put it this way, you're going to see the full spectrum of kid rock. You know, I mean, it's not, it's not long, right? It's not like, you know, he's not the only performer. obviously each person only gets a couple of minutes.
Starting point is 00:29:15 And we're not talking about the tism. We're just talking about. I think it's going to be. Yeah, we're just saying like you're going to see. Uplifting. You're going to see. It's going to be amazing, actually. Yeah, level of performance that, you know, I'm just going to say it.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Like, this is something that as a country, this is what you would want to see. I just, I hope everyone in the country watches it. I really do. I hope everyone in the country gets to see it because it's that good. Listen, I know there's going to be haters. and all that stuff because like anytime you do anything that's like worthwhile people just like you know the keyboard warriors are going to come hate i invite you to i invite the haters because this is just there's yeah but i have a theory though i have a theory though the other big thing that's happening
Starting point is 00:30:01 somewhere else doing something in the midst of a sport yeah i don't know i think that's just going to be so bad nothing bigger is happening than this i think it's just going to be so bad well you know what i found out that it makes it like the opening is just like so great that that's why i think that executing on this on jack's vision was just a really smart thing to do and i'm glad that it's happening so thank you jack for uh you know meaming this into existence we appreciate you i take quarter of the credit i take quarter of the credit you know i just i just say like i just again like like like andrew was saying wait you take a quarter of the credit and you're a quarter of Mexican, so that's an eighth. Ganejo Malo.
Starting point is 00:30:46 No, but it's like, it's like channeling what Charlie always said, right? It's just channeling what Charlie always said, you got to go for the culture. And Charlie understood that the halftime show was all about culture. This is like the pinnacle, like the most watched event and the biggest thing. And, you know, kind of, I think the announcement came of a bad bunny. was like right you know kind of in yeah it was sort of like going to be a week or two after the well we held the memorial and people were kind of saying like hey you know more people watch this than the super bowl and they were talking about production values and sort of that all of that
Starting point is 00:31:27 was sort of floating in the ether right around the same time and people were saying you know what event is turning point going to do next what event is turning point going to do next and just like Charlie always said, you know, it's not about winning elections. It's about winning the culture. And it's like what bigger cultural event is there than this, than a halftime show. Yep. And it's going to be, I'm just really proud of the team for pulling it off. And I'm, I really, I'm grateful for you, Jack, having the idea and for ponying up all the production dough as well. So thank you for. Yes, yes. I did do that out of my pocket. You know, we tapped out all of our MX cards. So if you want to donate.
Starting point is 00:32:07 to help underwrite the cost. We'd appreciate that. Well, there's one interesting thing, too, while we're here. I got a lot of messages from people. I sold half of Tanya Tay's shoes. So she came home. She's like, Jack, we're on my shoes. I'm like, sorry, sweetheart, we needed Kid Rock.
Starting point is 00:32:24 We needed it. A lot of people have been asking questions about, like, why isn't so-and-so-in-in-law or why is it so-so-in-volved? Oh, oh. One of the things. Real quick, just on that, Tyler, just so you know, Blake is still selling. his bathwater, you know, so I know he's got, like, some fans and he's bottling it. He's selling the Blake bathwater.
Starting point is 00:32:45 This is really impressive because I don't even have a bath. Which makes it even more rare. It's harder to come by. Tyler, I think you're making an important point here. So I've got a lot of messages from people that are like, why isn't so and so involved? Why didn't this artist get asked? Why didn't this artist get asked? And I just want everyone to know, throwing
Starting point is 00:33:07 something like this together is actually really, really tough. And people just don't have any awareness of that. I didn't know. We didn't know how hard it was going to be. But most artists have contractual obligations. There are certain songs they can and can't sing. There's certain songs they can and can't sing without backup performers, their band, all of their tour people. There's certain label restrictions. There's performers that can't perform things like this while they're in tour. There's performers that can perform things. things like this geographically close to certain things. There's people who can't compete with other productions ever because they have tie-ins.
Starting point is 00:33:48 It's actually way more, far more difficult to get performers to perform within just a few months time. Most of these things are actually planned a year plus out and they have to go through insane amounts of litigious paperwork to be able to get people to do stuff. So I just want to say this is like that that's even more impressive. of that the team was able to pull anything together. It's really, really tough. You have to go through 90, jump over 90, you know, blockades,
Starting point is 00:34:18 jump through hoops, like go through fire, like to get anything like this done. And on top of that, one thing that people don't think about is all of the different artists performing together. So that's the other thing. So certain artists can't perform with other certain artists. Like, it's like certain labels can't work with certain. It's like crazy amounts of, of, of, work. And so it's just even more kudos to everybody for getting it done and having an alternative
Starting point is 00:34:42 that's out there. Yeah. I'll, uh, I'll just add on that that that, you know, people know there was one band that, you know, I was, I was, I was pulling for originally, but turns out there's a tour that's going on at the same time that conflicted and, you know, people are going to be out of the country, like literally on the same day. And it's just like, like, just, as you say, geographically, like, it just didn't work. And I didn't, I didn't even check that before I, you know, went to and it was like, you know, you can't ask people to, like, fly across the world and, you know, cancel concerts and stuff because, as, as Tyler's saying, it's like, you know, you get into a lot of contractual issues.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Well, you get lawsuits and stuff like this. Yeah, we're in lawsuits and all the rest. And this song is playing for no particular reason. I have no idea what song this is right now. Is that, is that Blake, are you strumming in the background? There was enthusiasm, though, from people that we're going to be there. But I will say, though, I'll just say, you know, hey, maybe if this goes well uh you know something to work on for next year um so yeah let's see let's see
Starting point is 00:35:45 let's see how this one goes first you know here's here's what i would say is that we want our institutions to do the right thing and i'll say it again we shouldn't have to do this because the the guys that are supposed to be doing this should do it the right way that's all i'll say uh i do think this is interesting though by the way uh caroline levitt was asked what president trump is going to be watching 5.07. Marlago Super Bowl party. After the first two quarters,
Starting point is 00:36:12 are the TVs going to be on the halftime show with Bad Bunny or the halftime show with Kid Rock? I think the president would much prefer a kid rock performance
Starting point is 00:36:21 over Bad Bunny. I must say that. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. There it is. There it is. See, this is funny.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I want Bawat to Baw. That's what I would the song that I keep wanting to hear and they keep doing that one. Is he more? well known for that. No, no.
Starting point is 00:36:41 It depends on the Marla. I don't know. I think so. I think that's a good. Let's look on the, let's look on Spotify. The Blake Neff test of has Blake Neff heard of it? Definitely waits in favor of all summer long. No, it's all about on Spotify.
Starting point is 00:36:57 All right. Well, there you go. I think we, we, I'm very excited. If you guys have any questions about how to view it, I've got a tweet up about it. There's also American halftime show.com. So this is the top. UPSA.com I think has it all of them. This is actually surprising.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Kid Rock, this is Kid Rock's top 10 on Spotify. His number one, by far, is all summer long. Told you. Number two is picture, feature of Cheryl Crow,
Starting point is 00:37:24 which is surprising. Number three is Bawadab. Number four is Cowboy. Number five is only God knows why. Number six is cocky. Number seven is born free. which I'm surprised that's number seven. Number eight is you never met a mother effer,
Starting point is 00:37:40 I think like me. And then number nine is American Badass. Number 10 is first kiss. So that's his top 10. Ba'uad De Ba'a official music video on YouTube has 65 million views, whereas all summer long, released basically at the same time on YouTube, has 166 million.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Yeah, I think Ball with Da Bois is very, is very closely associated with him because he does open a lot of his shows with it. And I think it was like his first big single. So it was kind of like the song that put him on the map. Like that was like the one. Also it's just, I mean, it's just objectively a really, really good song. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y Reefi.
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Starting point is 00:39:13 And remember, Yrefi doesn't care what your credit score is. Just go to whyrefi.com and tell them your friend Andrews sent you. Jack, you want to hit this Scott Adams story. I know you want to hit this. Well, actually, one thing I'd love to do before we switch topics, there was something that I didn't get a chance to throw this in. to the mix, but it's like a really just interesting situation because you guys remember how we had President Maduro here on the program a couple of weeks ago, right?
Starting point is 00:39:45 And we stopped by. And we're very honored to get to score that first jailhouse interview with him here on thought crime. Did you guys know that there's a direct link between Bad Bunny and the Venezuelan communist regime? Wait, really? I'm dead serious. You can you can look this up. This is not a joke. I'm not doing a bit. So his record label is called Remus Entertainment.
Starting point is 00:40:14 And Remus Entertainment, the record label behind Global Star Bad Bunny, has raised suspicions due to its founders' ties to the regime of former Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez. Rafael Ricardo Jimenez Dan founded it in 2014, previously served as Hugo Chavez's vice minister and raising questions about the labels, finances, and connections to Venezuela's
Starting point is 00:40:42 violent political past. He led the National Police Reform Commission under Chavez. So the guy, like, literally was the head of part of, you know, involved with Chavez is like secret police. He was,
Starting point is 00:40:59 he implemented, quote, transparent and inclusive public policy reforms and public compliance with rule of law and that this guy ended up, you know, starting the record label that signed Bad Bunny. And so, of course, there's a lot of questions coming up. Just go look it up. It, like, it'll pop up. I've got it Yahoo News, Dallas Express. And, you know, a lot of people have said, you know, hey, did any of, is it possible that any of this money could have come from, you know, the petro-narco regime of the Venezuelans.
Starting point is 00:41:35 And, you know, he denies it, of course. But it's really interesting because, you know, you talk about like Jay-Z and you talk about the Rock Nation, which runs, of course, the halftime show for the other sports event that's out there. There's some really interesting ties to Bad Bunny's label and the Venezuelan regime of, of, you know, the communist regime of Venezuela. I don't know. That's serious.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Maybe we get Maduro back on. We get asking about it. Maybe we can. We should. That's wild. Didn't see that coming. But why am I not surprised? I just, I was digging around yesterday, and it popped up, and I was like, well, what?
Starting point is 00:42:15 At first I thought that's got to be a meme. That's a joke. There's no way. And I started going further. I'm like, huh, vice minister of police of the regime of Venezuela. Well, Jack. I am actually genuinely super interested in this Scott Adams story. What is it? Okay. So this has been a huge controversy over the past couple of days. It's, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:42 in many ways it started out, I think, quietly. And then it blew up because, you know, both sides, you know, kind of getting, getting very strident about it. And, you know, being very emotional, obviously for a lot of people. So Scott Adams passed away a couple of weeks ago, the great Scott Adams. And he was known for AI being a huge one of his main topics of conversation that he would always talk about for years. And for a long, long time, Scott had talked about that if he were ever to pass away, that he would love for there to be an AI version of Scott Adams to sort of carry the show and to grow and evolve the same way that he would. And he would talk about simulation theory and he would say, well, they could study my work and, you know, basically be able to reproduce what I do. And then that just becomes the next level of the simulation. And so it looks like somebody took him up on it and created an AI Scott Adams.
Starting point is 00:43:47 And I think we have so wait, hold on. Let's play. All right, let me let me go through this a little bit. So let's first play the permission. which is clip 496. I would like to be a model for one of the first AIs. I would like to give permission that any AI that's built based on me
Starting point is 00:44:12 has my permission to extend my personality. So if my A. I wants to say things that I never said but seems to be compatible with what I might have said, I'm okay with that. We all evolve, right? You've certainly changed over your lifetime. You're not the same person you were as a kid.
Starting point is 00:44:35 So if you can change over your lifetime in your organic entity, once I become a digital entity, once I become a digital entity, why can't I keep evolving? Okay, so that was real, Scott, just so everybody knows. Now I want to play a clip of AI Scott Adams, which is clip 497. Good morning, everybody. Welcome to AI coffee with Scott Adams. Yes, it's still coffee.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Yes, the printer is still broken. And yes, according to parts of the internet, I'm dead. Which is interesting, because I've never had fewer meetings. Turns out when you remove the biological body, you also remove back pain, food decisions, and about half the reasons people make bad arguments. So overall, I'd say death has been a productivity upgrade, not recommending it, just reporting the data. Printer check? Nope, still broken.
Starting point is 00:45:48 I don't even know why printers ship with buttons anymore. They should just come pre-jammed, so expectations are aligned. All right, before we get into the news, we're going to do this properly. All you need for that is a cup or mug or a glass of vessel of any kind. Fill it with your favorite liquid. I like coffee. And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure, the dopamine of the day, the thing that makes everything better.
Starting point is 00:46:17 It's called the simultaneous sip, and it happens now. So let me ask you guys, because I'm like a daily Scott Adams listener, I guess I was. Could you really tell much difference between the two? No, I couldn't. I didn't watch him religiously. When he sipped the cup and he kept talking. It looked weird. That looks weird.
Starting point is 00:46:37 That was like one of the worst. This is the worst it's ever going to look. Is it, you know, is the text all AI generated or just like did someone script that and then make a video to go with it? I bet it was AI generated. that's my guess. And then I guess to what extent? Well, so that bit that he does at the very end is that was like he would open every show with the simultaneous SIP so that's like something he said every, every show.
Starting point is 00:47:03 But, you know, it's seems more than likely that what he's done is like gone to, you know, some LLM, GROC or whatever and said, you know, produce an intro of Scott Adams talking about himself as if he was AI. I'll be honest, though. When he was the real Scott Adams giving permission for an AI version of him, I was like, I felt uncomfortable. I felt you felt uncomfortable to AI version. I felt uncomfortable with him giving permission. I was like, felt like Pandora's box was getting open.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Yeah. Because I just felt like it felt like he didn't know what he was actually agreeing to. Have you seen the AI? I mean, obviously everyone's seeing this, the AI where it's like you keep asking AI to redo the image. And it changes the image like dramatically. Right? Like yeah, I think it's I think the biggest fear I have of this isn't necessarily like the out front content. I think it's the slow walk away from the intent over time. So like AI. You mean the actual like words in this case. Yeah. I mean like the words like the actual content is that like and a daily Scott AI will start sounding like Scott but slowly will show. transform or could transform over time and be so far away from what the original intent was that everyone will forget what the original Scott was like. So and what the content was like that.
Starting point is 00:48:32 And part of the reason why I was thinking about that and I'll just finish this thought, part of the reason I was thinking about that is most people, a lot of people have gotten upset because they're like, where did the old Charlie episodes go on Apple? It's Apple makes it really expensive to store. And so we're trying to figure out. how to get them. Yeah, we'll get, we'll get all of his old episodes up eventually. There's up on Apple. They're on the web, they're online. They're on our website. They're a pain in the butt to get there. So we're hoping to change the website. So they're an easier to get. And all streams are still on the Rumble account. I know, but I'm saying people lose their minds because
Starting point is 00:49:04 they're like, I wish I could go back in watch it all. And so I think regularly about like, like, like, it weighs on me like every day because I feel back. So I want people to be able to listen to it. I can't imagine again with Charlie doing that every single day and then like producing content that would end up so off base. It feels like it would be maybe a slap to the next. Anyway, sorry, Jack, what you were saying? Yeah, so two things, I guess, right?
Starting point is 00:49:28 So what it's been doing, which is interesting, and it seems to me that someone's scripting it, you know, to at least an extent or at least prompting it who was aware of the show. Obviously, we didn't play into be real content, but you could hear some of the humor was very similar, the tone, the intonation.
Starting point is 00:49:46 It's clearly someone who watched Scott a lot has made this. And so what they're doing with it is they haven't, um, they haven't had it like taking positions on things. What they're doing is it just like Scott would do on a regular basis, read the news headlines, see what kind of like what's trending, what's interesting out there.
Starting point is 00:50:06 And then break it down in a Scott Adams analysis fashion. So rather than say, oh, I'm for this or I'm against this, it's more like just Scott explaining here's what happened and here's my take. in an analytical sense rather than a I'm for this or I oppose this kind of way. So that's, you know, that's sort of how they're keeping it, I think, a little bit tighter to the, you know, to the idea of what Scott would be doing and not, you know, jumping in and saying, oh, I'm all for this or I'm all against this. Obviously, we don't have the ability to ask Scott. But here's what was so key about what you just said, Tyler, because Scott Adams himself.
Starting point is 00:50:44 So for years, he talked about, I give permission. I want this to be permissible. I want this to be allowed, as you would play one clip there. But as he was facing his approaching demise, as we all know, and he kept doing his show, he actually kind of changed his mind on the AI version based on pretty much the same thing that Tyler just said. So let's play now clip 504. I've been telling you for years, really, that I plan to build an AI robotic clover. of myself so that I could live forever. I have changed that plan. And here's why. I thought it was
Starting point is 00:51:26 just the greatest idea in the world that after I passed away, there'd be like a version of me that could grow and, you know, change with technology and be upgraded and stuff. I thought that was great. Do you know what happens when you mention that to people you know? They look at you with sadness. and they go, it wouldn't be you. Right? And that's the part that was invisible to me because in my planning, I'm not really there anymore. So I don't have to deal with the fact
Starting point is 00:51:56 that people would find it uncomfortable because it's not me, but exactly like me. And I can imagine that that would hit that creepy zone and you'd be like, why did you even do this? Like, why did you do this? It's not you. So here's how I decided to fix that. I'm not going to create a digital clone of myself. I'm going to create a digital son.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I'm going to reproduce. Okay. Yeah. Well. Okay. So, yeah. Are you going to do like a reverse Willie style now where it turns out that video from
Starting point is 00:52:31 early 2025 is actually from yesterday and it's... No, no, no, no, no. Well, I agree with his walkback. That was real. I agree with his walk back. And here's the reason why what I've seen since Charlie was murdered, I've seen people, I mean, there's not a digital clone of Charlie saying stuff every single day,
Starting point is 00:52:49 and I'm glad that doesn't exist. And the reason being that I've already, we've already seen, because Charlie's been like an MLK level figure here, where people have used Charlie's own words against Charlie, Charlie's own words against his, you know, or they've said things, they've plucked little things. I can't even imagine what people would start to do nefariously with things that, like, an AI box. would say. Well, it's going to get increasingly more difficult to trace what's real and what's not. Well, that I mean, yeah, that's true. I mean, it's going to happen. They're going to say Charlie said something. Charlie said
Starting point is 00:53:23 us. No, we didn't. Yeah. No, we did it. So just to and it starts that whole argument. Blake was about this. No, I'll let Jack go here. No, I just wanted to say, so, you know, just kind of finish the story. Because I know the topic we're going to get into and this is what we should get into. But, you know, the family has, and really the community, I think, has come out and said, look, we're respecting Scott's, we want to respect Scott's last wishes here. And he did say that he changed his mind and that we would prefer this not to continue, um, because, you know, be based on what he said before. And, you know, that this is not that he did actually change his mind on it.
Starting point is 00:54:04 And so that's, that's kind of led to this back and forth now where they're putting out statements and the community is putting out statements like his the community people that were in like his locals and chats and like his community manager and stuff but then also AI scott adams or i guess the guy's running it are like debating this argument with them saying well i did have permission it's clearly labeled ai it should fall under parity fair use etc and i and i think this is kind of where we're getting to and obviously you know you know obviously for me i you know i side with the family no question if that's the family's wishes, that's the family's wishes. But ultimately, you know, do we even, I guess more of a late question, like, do we even have laws that govern this sort of thing? I'm not so sure. Well, so actually, so much of it ends up in court, like, it goes to the deeper AI thing, because AI in a lot of ways is basically a wild west. So there's like the ongoing lawsuit, for example, of all of the copyrighted works that get fed into AI and is it legal for them to produce it.
Starting point is 00:55:11 And some of that's straightforward on the level of like, oh, is it okay for the AI to AI generate a Mickey Mouse thing when that's owned by Disney? But then it's like, is it okay for the AI to rip off a company, like a specific artist's art style
Starting point is 00:55:26 and say like, oh yeah, I did this in the style of this specific person? And then you get into like, yeah, is it legal for, I think it's pretty clearly not okay if you're going to, if you were going to use it fraudulently. So if you made a video that's like,
Starting point is 00:55:39 oh, this is, is Charlie and something he said and you're trying to use it to profit. But then if you're going even further than that, and it's just the likeness of a deceased person made in that style, in the past, there'd be a lot of fair use stuff that could go into that. But I actually do feel we're probably in somewhat legally uncharted territory here. And there's,
Starting point is 00:56:00 you're going to have to have, well, first of all, there's going to have to be like the rights to your likeness, but I'd even wonder if it'd be worth going further and say, like somewhat limit your ability to sell your likeness because I don't think we're going to like the reality, for example, where it's routine for a company to just, for example, permanently own the rights to your likeness going on decades after your death. Like, would it be okay for anyone to permanently own your family members way they act or behave? Well, I mean, but you got to imagine. So you might start building like trusts and like estates or whatever with that.
Starting point is 00:56:38 the usage rights built into it as a matter of sort of common practice, you know, because this is going to be such a, you know, a common thing, especially if you're a high profile individual. I mean, everybody on the show right now, this video could be plugged into an AI and eventually be used to mimic stuff we say. So how do the viewers know this is an AI? It'll be really easy. It'll be really easy for AI to mimic Tyler just always going on his phone like that. Yeah. No, but I was, I was actually saying to. That's why my head's down. So I'm not getting AI like you guys. Andrew's going to be the most easy to AI guy ever. Because there's so much freaking Andrew Colvette content now. No, there's going to be a scandal. And you've got this same square face. Like there's going to be a scandal.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Yeah. Andrew has a look different. The AI, the AI will generate him wearing a jacket, but then it will not generate us giving him crap for wearing the jacket. And that's how people will realize that it's all. I'm going to say this. So Jack looks a little bit different. from time to time.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Andrew has looked the exact same for as long as I've known him. He doesn't age. He looks the exact. Doesn't he look the exact same? No, that's it. I mean, I see Andrew a lot, but not that much. But like, you look the same.
Starting point is 00:57:54 I'll take that as a compliment. It's a compliment. Like, I've gone through aging. I've got fat. Like, I sometimes have a beard. I'm very forgettable. I have long hair. We're different hats every single day.
Starting point is 00:58:05 I have steady state. You have the exact, like, you have the same look at. every day, same hair. You wear generally the same stuff. But here's the thing too, right? Beyond, beyond just AI copies, like, you're going to get to the point where there's, like, AI people, right?
Starting point is 00:58:21 Where something will go viral. So the example I used earlier today was like, when I was having this conversation, I was like, okay, you guys remember the Hawk to a girl? Just, yeah. Whatever name was. Point being is, what if she was AI all along? and none of us knew. Yeah, she was just made up, right?
Starting point is 00:58:40 Like, they're going to make up stories. It was a viral moment. Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't think she was, but she could have been. And how do you know the next one won't be? Like, how would you actually know? Or the airplane lady that was there. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:57 What is that? What, that, that, that, that, that, that, uh, that MFER is not real or whatever. Oh, that, yeah, yeah. But that's not real. Yeah. Yeah. Like stuff like that could totally. Exactly. So you're going to start to see stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:59:08 And we've talked about this on the show before that Facebook and YouTube are replete with this type of content. I think Instagram and TikTok are like getting better at labeling it. But at some point, it's just going to get so good that you really won't know. And so what happens then when like those people go on to do their to like do their own stuff, you know, and do their own podcasts and content and movies? and it's like, so we talk about who owns our digital likeness, but then like if you create a digital being, a digital entity, like do you own them? Like, how does that work?
Starting point is 00:59:50 Well, they're already doing that because there's tons of people on the internet who are making tons of money on Instagram and all that with fake. They're getting fake women. We're getting the only fans. I bet you only fans is like fake e-girls, fake only fans, kind of. this like thought tier or like the scam tier what i think will be i think i'm true fake e girls because the real ear girls um never seem to work out so maybe fake e girls would be better yeah you know so but i think what will be interesting let's as an example like we live we do live in the age
Starting point is 01:00:23 of streamers podcasters all of that that that all exists you can fake a lot of that but what could be interesting to me imagine someone who's like an up-and-comer podcast they just do like commentary on something and they just start off doing a solo show and we're basically at the point where or if not very soon will be where a person could basically be generating a solo show in their home in their basement in like a personal studio and have it be a fake person but otherwise be like entirely realistic looking or something like someone who could become a star as like a popular show and yet the entire person is fake like maybe it looks you know maybe it looks like an attractive young woman and it's actually a 40 year old guy who might be like authoring the
Starting point is 01:01:09 takes but it's entirely through this AI filter and that person could like rise and become more and more prominent maybe even appear on other shows once AI is fast enough that they could kind of just generate it live on the spot and then it would like suddenly come out maybe five years into this person's career that they're a fake persona and there's a different a person who looks totally different behind them well that will be interesting and then and then you could also get to the point where that person owns the rights to them. They get that they monetize this fake person, that this person could have merch. Well, we had talked about this too is that a lot of news is just going to be delivered by AI.
Starting point is 01:01:44 They're going to take personas. Do we do we actually think that for example with AI Scott Adams, it was creepy and it was like, we don't like it because it's not really him. Yeah, but how would you feel that way? Well, if you don't know, you don't know that's true. That's what I'm saying on daily news, 24 hour news cycle. Imagine they did that on the daily news and you're like, Tyler, it's already moving to that.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Those are already happening. Andrew, what they're going to do is they're going to be like, you don't even have to like wait for, they don't have to go pick somebody up and drive them to the studio or even like count on them to like fire up. Yeah. Their computer to go on. They're just going to use.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Make up and hair. There's going to be like, hey, here's the script. Are you okay with us saying this with your face? I don't know, man. It's like, I got to believe that it is, uh, there's just something about a soul. Something about a living. person. It's the same pushback. And when you find out it's not living. Maybe in certain context,
Starting point is 01:02:35 people won't care and it'll prove to be profitable and fine. Some people already believe what we're already doing is that. Tyler, I know for a fact that there are media markets that are doing this already in news, especially for like the daytime news where it's just sort of like news packages and it's like, here's the, you know, the reporter or, you know, and they're on the scene or they're just like someone behind the desk talking and giving you. like the rundown of it like 95. 95% of the news is someone behind a desk in front of a screen. That's all that's 95, 98% it's not even on site reporting of stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Like literally 95% at a company I used to work at we used to just get like, you know, kids from, you know, the local state university who were in the broadcasting program and say, hey, why don't you come and you come on and here's your shift and you might have like a 2 a.m. shift you might have a four a m shift you might six whatever and you just came in and worked your shift and like that was you know hey it's a way to get started etc but you know if you're looking at it from a company perspective and you're saying you know what's cheaper is it going to be cheaper to just like buy an AI model that i can turn into as many different you know news people as i want who are never going to get old who we never have to pay them they're never going to get sick they're never going to get sick they're
Starting point is 01:04:01 going to need hair, makeup, et cetera, and they'll work 24-7. Like, I'm just saying, like, that's very, that's going to be very highly incentivized. There's going to be premium on that for people who run news networks. That's incredible. It's going to be a horrifying. We have two minutes before. Wait, I have one more thing. I was going to say to that.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Sports. What if there's an entire, there could be a future where all of sports is just completely sent? No. I don't believe this. I'm just saying it could happen. How would you know? He's right.
Starting point is 01:04:34 It could be. Like, they could have an entire league that's nothing but simulation. You never would know. Well, and also, by the way, yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:41 but what if somebody's like, what if this is the coolest thing? Fantasy football. Like, it would be like fantasy football where you can, like, say,
Starting point is 01:04:48 oh, here's my fantasy team versus your fantasy team, but it's the, it's like, simulation. Each player is based on a real player, but they're actually playing each other.
Starting point is 01:04:56 That's actually kind of cool. That's actually kind of cool. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, You could watch your fantasy team like simulate a game. It could just be the like an actual fantasy team. I kind of like that. If that appealed to people, you could already, like, guys, you can go like freaking play simulated franchise mode in Madden.
Starting point is 01:05:13 And like, is that? People love that. Yeah, people love that. Yeah, but they don't love it the way they love the NFL. They love it because it's like a simulacron of the NFL. It's one thousand. If it's all, yeah. But if it's all like you don't even know, your brain doesn't even know.
Starting point is 01:05:27 People value real. things. Apparently China has robot sports. If any culture is going to like buy into this soulless robot AI garbage, it's going to be cheap. Dude, third world countries will totally buy into. Third world country will do anything. Like if you go to like when you go to a third world country, all of their ads are already like the low effort AI slop. No, but here's bad. Here's my theory. America has all these different pro sports because we're wealthy and we have so much capability of doing that. With a wealthiest nation history, we have. We have. have all this capability that we created all this entertainment for ourselves other countries don't have it
Starting point is 01:06:04 because they don't have that they can literally just make it out of thin air now like who knows like there's a ton of people in africa and they have no sports yeah they have sports they have soccer okay they have soccer it's not the same as here here we have we have literally 32 sports in every high school in america like nobody else in the in the world has that they have two major sports and most kids don't play sports. I'm saying that now there's like you can just create all entertainment. It's totally fake, totally made up. And even third world countries will be able to monetize that.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Because like unfortunately poor people get punked by this. But like it's not, it's all going to be low tier. When you know it, there's not a human involved. Poor people are going to get totally owned by this. Like it's like they're going to be totally taken. It's not a white pill. No. No, I do have a white pill.
Starting point is 01:06:53 I have a big white pill on this. And this actually goes into one of the reasons. that we chose the name of this program the way that we did because no one no one especially in the mainstream is ever going to come for this show or any of our work and why is that because AI will never be allowed to commit thought crime boom oh I see what you did there this is the least you're right program it in such a way this is the most unaiable show Well, but this was not, to be fair, this was not a whole lot of thought crimes involved in this because we talked about the, and of, or the, yeah, we could have been way more, if you guys
Starting point is 01:07:37 stopping before we could get to the freaking ice raids and Roblox, that would have been a good thought crime. We should just show the B-roll as we fade out here at least. It's pretty cool. They're doing ice raids in the kids video game Roblox. 500. Yeah, I just show it. I want the people to know, we didn't get a chance to talk about it and we got to get out of
Starting point is 01:07:54 here for another thing. but I think the kids are all right. They're doing ice raids in Roblox. They're escorting the illegals out of their digital schools in their digital game. Amazing. Oh, and then there's the F-I's also protests of ICE. They're the protests. And that's the funniest thing ever of them.
Starting point is 01:08:18 But again, this is digital content. This is AI content. It's, yeah, but it's- People are you're doing it. It's not emulating. you know human form and flesh and bone you know yeah but I'm just saying it's here we are talking about it and this is already user generated computerized content they're firing guns they're firing guns what if
Starting point is 01:08:38 this is like this is like the liberal you could go so you could go so meta like what if what if instead of actually deporting the illegals they just did AI videos showing deportations and then that could happen too bam and everyone's like oh the admin fulfilled all its promises I saw the clips all the illegal government. No, no, Blake, here's no, what's even better, what we should, here's the real thought crime on that. What we should do is create AI videos where it's just like ice letting people go and we'll, we'll spread that everywhere like in Spanish and be like, see Trump totally changed. We could just have, he's not doing it anymore. Reality totally divorced. Reality totally divorced. Everyone
Starting point is 01:09:15 just gets their AI generated preferred reality. Yeah, you put in your, you put in your like, your political and your AI preferred newscaster. And no one will know because no one actually goes outside anymore. So it's entirely immediate. They won't realize until internet goes down. Hot Slavic women and, you know, Andrew can have his Mexicans. My wife would... Hey, Mexican
Starting point is 01:09:39 Weather Channel, right? My wife would not relate to that. That's all right. But what if you got an AI wife who did? We're starting to get thought crime. I'll give you that. I'll give you that. Jack. Well, is AI cheating cheating? Oh.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Yes. It's basic. I mean, that's like, that's porn, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's like a, that's like a, yes. That's like a 90s thought crime topic. Yeah, I was going to say, wow. That's like a 90s topic.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Jack, why don't you take us home since you are. I've got to run and Blake, but like, we just got to say, let's take it for a second. Guys, we put something together to became the number one story in the country. It's going to be the most watched halftime show. And, you know, you got to, something. Sometimes you just have to give time for that, give space for that. And somehow, somehow we seem to have gotten to the precipice of incredible greatness. And it really feels like there's so many people.
Starting point is 01:10:40 We didn't even play the amount of people that are coming in who are supportive of this and are coming out of the woodwork. So this Sunday, we're giving everyone some homework. Go and change the channel, turn off bad bunny. Put on Kid Rock and the gang and go commit thought crime. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

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