The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 119 — Canceling Cesar Chavez? Downvote Buttons? Venezuelan Statehood?

Episode Date: March 21, 2026

The Thoughtcrime team hits a whole sequence of important topics, including: -Is Cesar Chavez now a dastardly villain? -Should we add a downvote button to X? -Is the murder conviction of a Utah mom a hopeful preview of the coming Tyler Robinson trial?   Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!  Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You know, true story, the oldest memory I have of Phoenix. I don't try to do it all week. The oldest memory I have of Phoenix is that I came here when I was like nine or so. Illegal. Because my dad had a work trip here, and I was at the Phoenician. And I was watching the Are You Afraid of the Dark movie on the hotel TV? There was a movie? There was a made-for-tiv-movie that was like two hours long.

And it wasn't a story. Like the kids had to fight evil in real life. So the Are You Afraid of the Dark that literally I think about all the time is the one where I think the kids turn into like dolls or something. And they're there. Do you remember it? Does anyone remember this one? I don't remember that one. There's a doll house.

And the kids turn into dolls. and their skin becomes porcelain. Whoa. Wait, no, I remember that. Yeah. Or something. I do remember that. I think about it all the time.

I remember. I don't know why. Like, it just, like, it just stuck with me, though, was, like, a really eerie. And it was, like, a- Wasn't there, like, a Ryan Gosling episode? It was, like, 4 p.m. You're, like, in a dark house. You know, you're eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich after school, and you're

watching, are you afraid of the dark by yourself? Like, that was, that was America. in like the 90s and early 2000. Yeah, he was. Ryan Gosling was in the season 5 episode, The Tale of Station 109.1, which I am not familiar with. Speaking in Ryan Gosling,

the team has said that this new movie that he's in is pretty good. The sci-fi one? Yeah. I don't know. I can't really get into that because it's like the original, the first movie that guy made,

The Martian, same author, is like one of the most Reddit books. ever written. It's like he names his base, like base ninja pirate monkey or something like that. Yeah, so I've, yeah, so I read the book for Project Hail Mary. I thought it was a good book.

I'm definitely excited to see the movie. The books, it's sort of like, there's, what does it say? Like, he's like the last person who has the chance to save the world, and it's this mission, and it's

like the stars are going out. So it's, it is kind of like an environmental thing, but then he goes into outer space and he, he needs this, um, was it racism that made the stars go out? And like the whole thing is about like their relationship, like, like, like figuring out how to like save the world basically to see if the aliens can figure out how to save everything. That's pretty cool. Are the stars going out because of racism? Because that's kind of what modern sci-fi is usually about. That's right. All right. That's good. Yeah. We wouldn't want them to like avoid, avoid confronting systemic racism as the cause of all problems in the world. We

have a, I think noteworthy, it's noteworthy. Our first story has nothing to do with racism. Really? That's a big deal on that. But it is sexism. Well, depends how you look at it.

Well, that's what they claimed. That's what this person's supporters claimed. Well, let's get into it. Blake, what's the story? All right. Well, we have, we're very interested in this one. If you're wondering why despite having no women on here, we're going in a true crime direction. It's because there's a very direct involvement with another case. We're all very interested in.

The case we are talking about is Corey Richens. This is a true crime saga that's been unfolding in the state to our north in Utah. And it's pretty fascinating. It's got all that stuff that will make a great podcast later. In fact, I assume it's already made several good podcasts. It's huge in the podcast. Yeah, absolutely massive in the 2X chromosome podcast world. Because Cory Richens, she is a mom, I believe a Mormon mom in Utah.

And years ago, I think like in 2022, her husband in 40s abruptly died. And she wrote a children's book about the death and, you know, about, oh, you know, overcoming this trauma with her children. She got interviews in the press. She was interviewed by an NPR station. Like this was not even a throw. way. This was people saw this story. People read this book. And then mere weeks after the book, yeah, are you with me? That's the book there. And then mere weeks after this book came out, the police came forward. They'd been investigating it for a year. And they say,

Corey actually murdered her husband. She poisoned him. Apparently, she was deep in debt. She'd piled up a lot of debts. And she thought if she murdered her husband, who was from a quite wealthy family, that she would inherit his estate. She also took out a lot of life insurance policies on him. And so she murdered him to get access to that and pay off her debts. And thankfully, that failed. She finally went to trial. It took three years to go to trial.

And after about three hours, I believe a jury was able to convict her. And I think, Jack, you're probably chomping at the bit to reveal why this is of particular interest to us. Let's not do that yet. Let's walk through the story first. Okay, all right. Because that takes it in a different direction. All right, okay.

But she, so a couple things I just want to add. So I'm just kind of pulling this up. She, she, the family was Mormon. The family she married into was Mormon, but they claimed, her defense claimed at trial that she herself was not. Oh, okay. Is that an important thing? Tyler, tell me, are Mormon wives, like allowed to kill their husband?

So her not being Mormon? So this is secret lives of non- Mormon wives is what you're saying. wives and non-Mormon-Wy. Secret lives. What is the Mormon church's position on Spouse Old Burger? It's pretty strong. You should do it. Okay. Unless reasoning is involved. I like it when churches hold firm on that.

So yeah. And then and the other thing I want to add is that she also she had an affair, which was a big part of this. I think it was like the handyman and he actually testified at the trial about, you know, about the affair.

And they're sort of like she had this real estate firm like a like a house flipping kind of deal and that's where they had the affair but then also the husband from this wealthier family had a construction firm that was very successful and what came out was that she had been stealing money from his construction firm to try to shore up her company because of course you know she's got to be girl boss and that you know Eventually it was caught and when it was caught, he didn't leave her, the husband, Eric, that he instead, you know, sort of did what he could to get the money back, wrote her out. And then he wrote her out of the will. So he like, like wrote her out of this trust that they had a bunch of things in. So that's what prompted her to then take this next level of taking out these life insurance policies and then making herself the beneficiary. But I just want to add that that she forged his signature and that came out at court as well, that she forged. his signature and basically committed identity fraud of her own spouse. Yeah, well, instead of just us joining on about it, we actually, our team did find several

clips of Cory Richens on the book tour circuit. Just like, shamelessly, I guess we got to take a look at this. Let's do clip one. You know, we kind of, my kids and I kind of wrote this book on the different emotions and grieving processes that we've experienced last year and, you know, hoping that it can kind of help other kids. I'm new to all of this, so kind of doing, you know, research and reading books and things to try and understand, you know, not only how to grieve as a widow as a wife, but also, you know, with my kids, how to help them, how to help them understand what just happened. And the three

sees is how I has visualized it. And it's connection, continuity, and care. Making sure connection is the one, major one, and making sure that their spirit is always alive in your home. You know, and memories are always brought up and doing things that your loved ones love to do, whether it's riding bikes or their favorite dinner, and just constantly, you know, talking about them. Explaining to my kid just because he's not present here with us physically,

that doesn't mean his presence isn't here with us. He's, you know, here for birthdays, and he's here for Christmas, and, you know, and it's just comforting. to them to know that, you know, they're not living this life alone. So do you guys convict just off that? Pretty much, yeah. Yeah. Did something, did that, I'm trying to actually think in my head, did something seem off

there, or do I just think something seems off because I know what came out later? Yeah. I just don't, I don't understand how you think you get away with something like that. So, so she, I definitely went down the rabbit hole on this one, uh, a couple nights ago. and she what she was doing was she I guess he her husband would make these trips in Mexico and I think it was like a hunting trip and different things and she was trying to say that he had picked up a like a like a drug habit while he was down in Mexico and so the way she was trying to get away with it was to say oh he had this drug habit but actually he you know it got the better of them it turned into an addiction and then he accidentally overdosed and so she was trying to say that it was an accident and my gosh because they started pulling up her like Google searches just regular Google search like not even anything hidden yet and I mean she had been using Google to search all this stuff when you read food labels today it's

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And so she gets the fentanyl from, she gets the fentanyl from her housekeeper, and she called it the Michael Jackson drugs. And she told the housekeeper, who also testified against her, was like, look, I didn't know that. She was like, I didn't know that I was getting this for murder. I thought it was getting for her.

And she tried it the first time with this like sandwich, this bagel sandwich, and I guess he got sick, he got a rash. And he, you know, had a very strong reaction, but didn't die. and detectives later found that he told, like his sister, that he thought his wife was trying to kill him. And they brought that up,

that he had actually suspected that. So, you know, maybe that should be one of the questions here is that, you know, if you think your wife is trying to kill you, are you really going to continue accepting food from her? Because, unfortunately, that I don't mean laugh, but it's,

it's because it's disgusting that he continued to, so she then got more drugs, put it in a Moscow mule, and that was the one that eventually. You know what's like more concerning than anything about this story is the fact that like the housekeeper, who I'm assuming is Hispanic, just was like, yeah, I can of course get fentanyl. Like what? Like in Utah. You know, a little Maria over there that doesn't speak a word English. Utah, you can't get a drink at the bar, but you can apparently find fentanyl all pretty quickly.

that's an interesting that's an interesting factoid in Utah yeah is this so what's it what's going on with so the scout so she's cheating on him she did identity theft and it didn't take long for the jury to like come back of the ruling right it was like pretty immediate three hours a capital case three hours after a not and so this is you know kind of it gets at since we'll be talking a lot about the Utah court system the way some of these things can really drag out. So the death occurred in 22. She publishes her book in 23. She gets indicted around then as well. It takes three years for this case to actually go to trial. Once it's actually on trial, the defense does not actually offer, it calls no witnesses. They rest immediately. So there's only the prosecution case. Defense just instant rests. And then a few hours of deliberation and the verdict is delivered. And I'll admit, I find myself, wondering, did they really need three years to get to this point? No.

And I kind of suspect no. And that gets at, as we know, why a lot of people get really frustrated with our legal system. I don't think three-year murder trial processes were a common thing that we had 100 years ago. No. I totally agree. But on the other hand, I do find myself impressed when you lay out all the evidence the way they're getting, oh, well, the housekeeper said this.

and actually we know everything her husband was telling people and why he thought he was getting sick and all of her web searches. I am happy. Wait, did he suspect? Well, as Tyler said, I think he must not have suspected too much or he probably would have avoided continuing to consume things

unless he had a death wish too. I mean, imagine that. You're married to a wife who keeps trying to kill you. The detective said that he told his sister that he thought it was from his wife because I guess she made him the sandwich. So, I mean, there had to be some level of that, you know? Maybe, maybe, like, did he think maybe his wife just oopsa-dazy drugged him?

Like, maybe she, maybe he thought she had a drug problem. Maybe. There was a really weird. So I'll just say this, that I saw a video after this, where I guess it was from the day of his celebration of life where, and they have three little boys. I don't know if we said that, but they have three little boys at home. where it's the wife, the widow at this point, the murderess, and a bunch of his friends, and they're like shotgunning beers in the kitchen and the kids are around. And the, you know, there just doesn't seem to be any, you know,

certainly no remorse on her part, but also just it seems like it was a very party atmosphere kind of thing. It seems that drinking was something that was extremely, prevalent in the household. And so, you know, to say that, oh, maybe she's trying to kill me. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. It's just a little too, you know, a little too on the nose, I guess. But at the same time, I don't know if we have that video.

It's just absolutely wild. And I would like, I know we have a little bit. Maybe we can, guys, what do you want to do? I'd love to play the body cam because we have footage of this. We have to play the whole thing. We have like two minutes of it. But we can leave the mics open. and maybe and just comment because

we have the body cam of the police arriving and we now know in retrospect that she's you know acting for the cameras and I think this is just just very very interesting what do you say? It's a clip six

he's had two epis in their can no shock a lot sugar is 4502 What's your first name? What's your first name? Yeah, let me talk to you about that at first time. Let them do their work in there.

So what happened today? When you say we were fine, what time did you see him when he was alert? We had a drink together at night to celebrate something at work tomorrow. Okay. What time did you guys go to bed? 930. Okay. 945.

And then what, what allured you to him today right now? Yeah, when I, I just woke up, I know when I sleep with my kids, I was, wake up and I go back in my own bed. Mm-hmm. I just crawled over on his side. And he was laying in bed? Okay. He was on his back on the bed and I knew. Okay.

And he was on, you said he was on his back? Okay. Where are your children now? I don't you sleep and that room two are awake with their air to the door. Yakes. Ugh. That's what, I mean, and you hear the police officer. He's, he's professional.

He's asking questions. I mean, obviously he's dealing with something horrible, but. So she said that they had a drink the night before and then he didn't wake up. And that drink was the one she poisoned. Yeah? Yes. And she also, at one point in the trial, they introduced a journal. So I guess she was, she did journaling.

And this was also written in the journal that we had had a drink tonight. I guess you wrote the journal after they had the drinks. And then, and then we went to bed. So, you know, thinking that and then it's the next day that they, or I guess, you know, later that night where they, where they have this scene. So, I mean, it's just, the fact of the matter is, and here's the reason this case matters, I guess, because there's so much evidence of guilt. not only the Google searches but also there was a letter

that she wrote from jail Blake did you see this part the letter she wrote from jail there's like so many weird layers to this it's like this entire case was invented to be a podcast for like Daisy to listen Yeah literally so she wrote a letter from jail to her mother and I think her mother has actually

retained counsel now because this is just so ridiculous where she was instructing her mother on what to say to police or you know and and to officials if they ever respond you know if they ever came up to her and the mother apparently like went along with it like it's it's it's it's the

craziest thing that you you cannot get away with crime and then leave all this evidence of your crime laying around for prosecutors to find and that's the key here is that we're very lucky we're genuinely very this obviously like this behavior is disgusting and evil and like it makes you lose your right to live

honestly like your right to exist. Wait, we should probably, we should probably, this is something we should mention is, oh, do we found, do we have that video? Yeah, so I want to, I want to hit this video. But there was like no defense. Like they didn't even put up any defense. We'll talk more about that in a second. But there was like, they, when you get to the point in the trial, usually, so you have the, you have the prosecution side, then you have the defense side, then the prosecution rests, then the defense goes and kind of presents their counter case and they call some witnesses and they, you know, do what they can to present their, you know, walk you through their version of events. Their defense never even did that. They just said, no witnesses and we're not

presenting a defense. Yeah, yeah, we mentioned that. Jack, we mentioned that. Yeah, but I do think. And they said, they said, yeah, prosecution didn't make their case. So we're good to go. Before he ever stepped behind a microphone, Charlie understood something important. Leadership begins with learning. He didn't chase a diploma or a title. He chased truth. Through Hillsdale College's free online courses, he studied the great works of the classics,

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Oh You're an Afghanistan Warrior watching there. So yeah, so I don't drink personally. So I like I don't know what like normie. Like I don't understand normie culture at all. But like take the case out of it even regardless of, you know, what the context is here. I just think that kind of behavior around children is a little bit, a little bit, a little bit off. Like I don't think that's appropriate around kids. I really don't. Um, like, like if you're drinking a beer around a kid,

and you're in a cup or a bottle or something, like that's one thing, but this, like, yeah, binging, binge drinking in front of children is not. This whole story is gross. Thought crime, binge drinking in front of children is not okay. No, no, the thought, no. Ultimately, the reason we had to talk about this is because she was having an affair in addition to all her other reasons for this crime.

So it is quite literally a thought crime. Is the guy she's having an affair with in that video? That I don't know. That I don't know. What were you going to say, Tyler? He's the handyman. No, I think you bring up a good point. Jack is that the idea of, I think that American culture in general was far more covert, I guess,

in family settings of like not, like I've noticed this especially in like group settings is that you'll have parties or like, you know, type like block party type things and they'll have like kind of a table that just has a bunch of alcohol at it. And I feel like that isn't the way that things used to operate. I feel like like early earlier in American culture, even when we were growing up, it was you never saw anything like that. It was like, oh, you know, of course a dad or our mom would be, you know, might have have a beer or something, but they would pour into a cup. And like that was the concept of the Red Solo Cup. So it's like you would pour it and like you would, you would drink it and just kind of be on your own, not just kind of like out there, you know, hard liquor, things like that.

especially with all of the different types of, you know, alcohol and and different things that are out there now. It's just, I think there's just like a looseness around that. And then you add on top of that, again, just weed culture. And I think this is part of the thing, you know, that we talk about with weed culture is that it just is so open. It's where people are kind of like, they make it their persona. And it's a big deal to their life. And drinking to a certain extent, like people kind of feel that way too. And I just don't think that that, I think that's escalated dramatically over the last number of years.

And it's not healthy, but it's particularly around kids. Well, and you know why that is? It's the extended adolescence. It's because you have so many, you know, millennials, elder millennials are having kids now, but they haven't matured themselves to the point where they assume that, you know, the responsibilities of adulthood. And they were like, oh, I'm friends with my kids. And I want to be the cool dad and the cool mom.

and you know, like those are going to be the ones that allow their kids to have alcohol, allow them have access to alcohol and all the rest. And it's this extent that adolescents that's killing everybody. I think it's, I think it's leading to a lot of problems. I think it's horrible. I think it's killing our country. And it's something that I see with so many, you know, so many guys, 30s and 40s right now,

where they're still just running around acting like children all the time. And as far as that video, I'm looking at the picture of the guy who, So the guy who testified against her does kind of look like one of the guys in the video because he's got a red beard. He's thinner now than the one in the video. So I can't tell for sure if that's him. Drinking culture makes you fat. Because he's got that. I want to get to.

I want to get to Cesar Chavez. That's what I want to get to because Cesar Chavez is super based on immigration. Well, we don't want to be bragging about that. We can't be doing that. Hold on. I mean, I have mixed opinions about Cesar Chavez, obviously. Before we get to that, we have to end with the final. We need the final plot twist judo flip here.

No, no, no. I'm a fan of his immigration, anti-illegal immigration, anti-flooding the country with Hispanic illegals because he didn't want them to undercut the wages of the union workers. Now, some of his other extracurriculars, obviously, Blake, take it away. I mean, that's... Hold on. We have to get the final judo flip on this topic here.

Okay, fine. Jack, we have to get the final... the final note of note in this case. Real quick. So the reason that the case hits home for a lot of us, not just because it was in Utah, but because of one of, so I mentioned the defense in this case, which didn't exist. I mentioned how the evidence was completely stacked against this woman, Corey Richens, and I just feel so terrible for those children, by the way, have to grow up without really a mom and a dad now at this point. And the fact that the lawyer for the defense in this was Kathy Nestor and is Kathy Nestor. And Kathy Nestor is also one of the

lead state appointed defense attorneys for Tyler Robinson. And I'll just say this, that Kathy Nestor did not garner a strong reputation for herself when she was in court during this. And I think a lot of people have pointed that out. And it could be something that we're going to preview pretty soon here. I'm actually glad you did that. That's fascinating. Yeah, I know. That's the big thing.

So what we're seeing here is potentially. the start now it could be different totally totally could be different you know so this is the you know the public uh defender utah's a small state and you know the fact is that you know when you have these these capital cases um you know there's only so many people that are available to be able to handle one of these cases and kathy nestor happens to be the same one in these two extremely high profile cases one of which obviously we don't have any connection to but one of which we all have this connection to and so just to understand that this is what we're going to see. So the same, you know, not to go into all of it, the same type of delay tactics that we've seen so far, trying to get rid of the prosecutor,

trying to do all this other stuff, rather than actually discuss the evidence, trying to get cameras out of the courtroom, try to block evidence or discussions of evidence in the courtroom. That's all coming from the same Kathy Nestor who ran the defense for Boree Richens. All righty. So now we can talk about how you think Caesar Chavez is really based, Andrew, which you got to be careful. You got to be careful. I'm not endorsing Cesar Chavez as based, Andrew, because I'm not endorsing Cesar Chavez. I'm just saying he was, I think it's a, I get a crack up every time the left lifts up this guy like he was some civil rights icon.

And then you find out, oh, he was beating the crap out of illegal immigrants so that they would get the hell out of America. Andrew, Andrew, we just, we just got to pause ourselves here. We should not, we don't need to highlight the reasons that seizure Chavez is based. If we can highlight the reasons that Caesar Chavez, left wing hero, is a rapist, which is what the big news is today. I mean, I'm not laughing at that, but I still think leftists are done. We should explain what we're getting that here. Then, uh, it's been coming out over the last few days. What are you talking about?

But the New York Times has a mammoth story this morning. Caesar Chavez civil rights icon is accused of abusing girls for years. This feels like a blast from the past. I feel like we got... This isn't the same Caesar Chavez that like Barack Obama has been constantly holding up that like every single Democrat, like major Democrat talks about for all these years. Yeah, or the same Caesar Chavez that has a holiday here in Phoenix government offices will be closed on March 31st for Caesar Chavez Day. Some schools will get a day off.

Tucson schools will have a day off. Actually, I have no idea if that's a weekend date or not. it is a Tuesday. Yeah, they'll be closed in Tucson to honor this guy. And I mean, we've got it right here in the New York Times. The New York Times has covered extensive evidence to support accusations from a whole bunch of women. And this is that Caesar Chavez was reportedly grooming and abusing girls as young as age 12. The story opens with a very lured account. The man, Caesar Chavez, was one of the most revered figures in the Latino civil rights movement. He was 45. She, Anna Margulia, was 13. She says she was summoned for sexual encounters with him

dozens of times over the next four years. And, yeah. Wait, when she turns 18, he stopped. Yeah, well, yeah, it's like, it's like ascended Leonardo DiCaprio syndrome. Well, hold on. Yeah, actually, I feel unfair saying that because Leo deCaprio, he just dates 20-something women. But like, literally, yeah, cutting them.

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promo code Charlie. Yeah, so I mean, I've been looking, we've got right here in Arizona. So here's everything in Arizona named after Caesar Chavez. We have Cesar Chavez. We have Cesar Chavez. Community Center in Levine. We have Caesar Chavez Plaza in downtown Phoenix. It's an elementary school.

Caesar Chavez Community School. Caesar Chavez Elementary School. Caesar Chavez Building on the University of Arizona campus, Tucson. Caesar Chavez Boulevard, a ceremonial street sign in South Phoenix. Caesar Chavez Cultural Center in San Luis. Caesar Chavez Drive in El Mirage. Hardin, Cesar Chavez in Tucson and a bunch of others. And, I mean, infinity of those in California, I think there's a very major street they named after Cesar Chavez in Ler

Los Angeles. I know there's been serious push in the past to have Caesar Chavez make it a literal national holiday so that they can have the Latino holiday in addition to MLK Day. So that's what I think's driving a lot of this is I think there's like a need because you had like MLK for the black community. You have like a bunch of MLK, black, you know, heroes. There's not a ton of Hispanic ones. And so I think that's like the drive here is actually just to appoint somebody from this. Hispanic community. And is, listen, I can say this without being racist because I'm quarter Mexican. Okay? Wait, I was going to say, like, what do you mean we have no heroes from the Hispanic community? Andrew, you're sitting right there. Yeah. Andrew, how much do you look up to Caesar Chavez? Like, growing up, did you write essays for school about how you wanted? His immigration hardline position, although I don't advocate for beating up illegals, was very big. And that's all I'm going to say. No, no beating up illegals unless they attack cops. But he did not want him.

And I always find that that hypocritical position with the modern left that's like open borders to just be so laughable. Every time they celebrate Caesar Chavez and lift him up, I'm always like, you know, he'd just like beat the crap out of illegals, right? He didn't want them lowering the wages for American. And you kind of think about this with Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders used to be really tough on the border. And that kind of changed. But we see that from Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton, like Normies. So Caesar Chavez is a great reminder of the hypocrisy of the modern Democrat Party.

So for that, he's useful. So, Blake, can you walk us through? Because before we just laugh at the left, can you walk us through a little bit of just how is it that this story broke? I mean, this is obviously something for a long time ago. What's the, you know, what's the story of the story here? Well, so I think I'd have to revisit because I know this is bubble. up in a few places, but the New York Times story dropped this morning, but I know people were already complaining about him a few days ago. So I think what's really been going on is there have

been women who have been starting to talk more. And so I think the word was getting around that a lot was going to drop. And the New York Times was pretty disciplined about it. They, they cite two women, Ms. Margua and another woman, Debrot-Rojas, and they're talking about getting abused in the 70s when he was in his 40s and they were teens. teenagers. An investigation by the New York Times has uncovered extensive evidence for their stuff. I believe they literally say, they say somewhere in this article how many it was, but it's like a very large number and it just seems like a lot of people knew about it. And like they just started talking about it. I think honestly, because of the ramping up in efforts to officially memorialize Chavez, that seems to have driven a lot of them to finally say something. Great. Which is good.

Wow. So I'm looking at it right now. It says one of them actually was Dollar Eswerta. And she was like his, that was like his public partner in United Farm Workers in UFW. So I mean, this is not someone who's who is just sort of a random, you know, random person that this is exactly, you know, like his public co-founder of the of UFW. she's 96 and she's saying yes she is publicly stating that he raped her multiple times in the 1960s claims that both resulted in pregnancies she kept them secret she arranged for the children to be raised by under other families and she claimed that they were force acts then there's another

there's other women who came out and said that um the abuse began around age 12 or 13 and included a rape at age 15 in the 1970s. So, so yeah, it's, it's to your point that these women are now, because it's been so many years later, that, you know, some of them, I think, like for Dollar Suerta, that she's, you know, she's 96. She's probably thinking that probably doesn't have that much time left and wanted to, you know, wanted to come public with this to really correct the record. Yeah, it's like, so lured here. All the left-wing stars have fallen. First, it was Harvey Milk. now it's Cesar Chavez

I mean you know he was in his 40s by the way groomed and repeatedly molested Anna Maguia Murgwai Murguea Can't even say it

Starting age 13 Continued to 17 And molested then raped Deborah Rojas Groped at 12 Rapeed at 15 Walla Virgin at UFW sites

That's crazy Yeah like He's literally like he's doing One of his marches Like I guess he would have He had a week long march across California and he was having this 15 year old stay in his motel room during the march. He just has his side chicks.

They're literally underage teenagers. Even at the time, like often, you know, the excuse you'll always get, oh, it was an earlier time. But like, no, everyone would think this was incredibly disturbing, even in the 70s when this was taking place. And it seems, okay, yeah, the New York Times, they interviewed more than 60 people, including his top aides, to get to the bottom of this story.

Yeah, this is a very widely corroborated story. Over 60 plus interviews, union documents, photos, prompted immediate cancellation of Chavez Day events and honors. So the dudes falling from, you know what's interesting, though, is like once you get to the saint level within the Democrat sort of progressive hierarchy of heroes, even allegations of sexual misconduct. are not necessarily enough to bring you down, right? So like MLK, there's allegations that he raped women

and the FBI wiretapped him. He had a different woman in every city he would go to for all these marches. He had women in Vegas. He had women in L.A. He had women in Boston, women in Florida. And at least on one occasion, right, the allegation was a rape allegation, I believe,

forced sexual assault. I think it was that he was in the room. Yeah, the claim. The claim is the claim from the FBI It's an FBI write-up because they were recording King. And the claim was that he was in a room with a bunch of pastors and some women

and that one of the pastors sexually assaults a woman in the room and King is like watching and laughing. That's such an odd description that I do wonder what literally would have been happening. Supposedly, this stuff still could be released. They keep delaying the release of it. But I don't know.

I'm in face. of transparency on public figures. But man, we really dodged a bullet on this one. I'm looking now, I remember this story from a decade ago. There was an NPR story, Caesar Chavez, the next Catholic saint. I'm really glad they didn't go down that route. You and Jack would have been stuck with him. Oh, that's an interesting question.

Okay. So what if they make a saint out of Caesar Chavez, right? But then they find out, like, a few years later that he was actually a rapist and a pedophile too. What happens then? Can you like des sanctify or does the church never get it wrong? I don't really think you can undo it.

Like it's supposed to be due to me. So Andrew, that that process So like take a look at Fulton Sheen right now. So Fulton Sheen is someone who's up for Sainthood even though he passed away, I don't know, gosh, 50, 60 years ago. That is all stuff that would come out during the canonization process.

Not if these women hadn't have come out with it. It, no, but I'm saying that it, it is not something that is quick, is what I'm trying to say. For the vast majority of people, Carlo Acutis, you know, some people, it has moved, jump all the second, obviously has moved a little faster. But for the vast majority of people who become canonized, it is an extremely laborious process where they do investigate all sorts of things like this or whether or not they were. associated with anything I'm just saying

what if they wouldn't have known they really dialed that back that was a that was a criticism of I believe John Paul II he got they used to have a position called I think literally the devil's advocate and he would argue against the sainthood of somebody for that reason

that's that's part of the process but I believe John Paul the second got rid of it and so we have a lot more saints getting made now and like that's why that's one reason you now get like the one point to make is that pan and he'll just have like here's 40,

new saints because they've streamlined the process and like Mother Teresa became a saint faster than usual. Francis changed a lot. All right. Francis changed a lot to say the least. But one of the reasons that the traditional process is what I'm speaking of is so laborious. Just one example of that is that there's currently only one male saint from for the entire history of the United States of America. There's one. If you've been listening for a while, you may have noticed something new. Andrew and Todd.com is now part of union home mortgage. The parent company changed, but Andrew Delray and Tadavakian didn't. I have known these guys for years, literally, and they're amazing, amazing, amazing patriots, great Christian men, same people, same values, and the same honest advice, now backed by a national lender.

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and you'd already made him a saint? Is there a process for rolling it back? Communicated in the past. So, I mean, I'm sure, I'm certain there'd be a process. I'm just saying that it would be. Has it ever happened before? Have they been sanctified? There have sort of been saints where they have been saints where they have kind of stopped encouraging

the celebration of them. Yes. As an example, there used to be medieval saints who would be child saints, and the reason they were a saint was, this is awkward to say, but I'm not making this up,

is they were children who were allegedly abducted and murdered by Jews. And so those were saints that they had in the Middle Ages. Unfortunately, there was a lot of anti-semitism in the past. Martin of Tours?

I think Martin of Tours is like that. There's definitely, I think there was one from the UK. I think like in Lincoln. Yeah, Little St. Hugh of Lincoln. That was from the 1200s. So like, you know, alleged martyrs where today we would say they were probably not martyred for their faith. And I think if you wanted to take an edge case, you could say, we could still say they're a saint, because a saint really is just anyone who's in heaven and an innocent child who dies and we have every reason to believe they were innocent and, you know, pious.

No, wait. No, it's not Martin of Chores. I had that wrong. There's a Martin. Yeah, St. Hugh of Lincoln is definitely one. But there's a lot of these. And so, like, you could still say, you know, they're still presumably a saint. There is no reason to believe that they would be damned.

But they're probably not, we probably don't want to memorialize them because the reason for them being memorialized as a martyr was mistaken. But we should be honest. Like, it is a real concern. There was, I forget his name. There was kind of a Mexican. Simon of Trent. Simon of Trent. I was totally.

There was a Mexican founder of a religious order. I think was it Legionaries of Christ, I think. where the founder of that group after he died, there was a lot of agitation, oh, he should be a saint. And then it also quickly came out that he had like a mistress of some kind, and I believe he was a priest. And so that is a reason to be careful with these things.

That is why we are very lucky they did not rush down the Caesar Chavez route or the sainthood route for a lot of other people. And as for the rest, we put our trust in the Holy Spirit, I suppose. So according to Grogh, according to Grogh. that the Catholic Church has never formally decanonized a saint. I was going to say, I haven't heard it, but... The Russian Orthodox Church has, though. And then it mentions, I could check, I don't know.

No, it is. I looked it up. And it says that, yeah, it's talking about how different feast days and different individuals have been, you know, downgraded and sort of the celebration of that saint has been downgraded. But, you know, and it's, it's... And in those cases, it's really more to do to things like, you know, not being able to verify certain things about their life. Like St. Valentine is a classic example of this where we all know Valentine's Day, St. Valentine's Day, but, you know, details of the actual Valentine's life are very, very spotty. It's just not very well documented the way that the church would normally like for a saint. So obviously we all celebrate St. Valentine's Day, you know, sort of in in the culture, but it's not really emphasized in the church.

So yeah. Be careful who you canonize Catholics. Yeah. I mean, but will have got stuck with Caesar Chavez, the rapist? We should remind everyone. Remember, yes, we can. The Obama line? Well, if you're young, you don't.

But anyone who's my age or older, they remember yes, we can. That is from Cesar Chavez. Cise Puede. That was kind of a loose translation of it. And, oh, wait, no, I was, I was a little bit right, by the way, because. St. Martin of Tours was considered for removal of his feast day, but ultimately did remain his, maintain his fees.

I knew there was something about Martin Tours, but he wasn't a child saint. But I don't know. So, okay, maybe there's, whether they can get rid of a saint? Can the left get rid of a saint? Well, they definitely tear down people while alive. Actually, can we get,

yeah, the left can get rid of saints? Here's the easier thing. Can we get his name peeled off of elementary school and a high school, public high school? We should demand that people, we should ask, we're literally in Phoenix. We should just demand that people go into the next city, council meeting to demand this.

Yeah, this should be easy. Wait, so I was doing this on a turning point action. New cause to sure. Love it. Like what was, Blake, who was the, wasn't there a whole like Ivy League thing where they were trying to, it was, oh, they were trying to get rid of Columbus's name from different things. And there was like that whole, we have to remove the name Columbus from everything. And then, you know, anyone was a slaveholder.

So we had to get rid of like anything that says, you know, named her Stonewall Jackson or Robert Lee. but then I was pointing out that Yale University is named for Elehu Yale, who was himself a slave owner. So I was saying that anyone who has a Yale degree or like I was looking up CNN reporters who had like Yale in their Twitter profiles and saying that, you know, how dare, because they were saying you benefited from slavery, right? So anyone who has a Yale degree benefited from slavery.

I think actually we have a commenter here. Ray Dev points out and I think it's actually worth citing. I got someone to take it out of her bio. What's going on is he no longer fits their narrative and like why is this only coming out now? Come on. So I think this actually, sorry, Andrew, I think this gets back to what you were trying to point out. So when Caesar Chavez was feeling the need of, oh, we've got oppressed laborers in the U.S. And so we need more socialism or whatever for them.

And also, you know, they're Hispanic. So we need another reason. Yeah, that's right. To, like, elevate new heroes in that way. Then Caesar Chavez was useful to them. But as more people are aware of, oh, he also didn't like immigration. There were other ways where you could say he was not in step with modern live narratives of open borders and so on. Okay, now we can chuck this guy as part of our great process of getting rid of everyone before the year 2020.

But I don't know that we want to race to pick up Caesar Chavez. The story looks pretty bad. I'm not picking them up. If they pick them up, I'm going to smack them for it because... I think you were kind of picking them up a little bit there. I think you were considering it. No, definitely not. A little bit, but maybe 25%.

Yeah, maybe 25%. I'm okay with that. I'm all right with that. All right. We have 10 minutes to go, guys. I have a question for you. I have a question for you. If on X, they included a down vote, would you support it?

Would you give a thumbs up to a... thumbs down. I think it's already being rolled out, isn't it? They teased it. That's what we're talking about. They can't tell whether it's a good thing. They haven't hit it yet. I think my favorite take is like, we should have a dislike button, but it should be just like voting. It should be restricted to mail, to property owning males and then their wives who have had children. Yep. Didn't they get rid of the YouTube video? Yeah, about five years ago. They got rid of dislikes. So the question. Yeah, but then like all the, the all the pepés went in and were like that's stupid so the anons made up their made up like a script to be able to bring it back yeah but it's not the same i mean the reason they got rid of dislikes was actually that was like a great element of the backlash to peak woke was it started happening because you'd get these incredibly horrible film trailers tv trailers game trailers and they or a really awful political ad and they would just get annihilated 90 to 10 or 99 to 1 that level of ratio like it's the true ratio as a opposed to the fake Twitter ratio of like comments to retweets or or whatever people go for. And so I think it'd be good to have that.

Like you can just get a direct measure of how much people are liking it. But on admittedly, on X, like X is full of bots. So everything's going to get botted really hard. It's going to get botted. But here's the problem. Wait, wait. But there's another potential upgrade to this where that they're looking at where you can set, and I like this, region filters. So you could potentially set it up so that your tweet could only go to certain regions

And that you could only interact with certain people from certain parts of the world. So like America would be a region? Correct. Nice. Yeah, I think it's like goes by continent maybe or, you know, I don't exactly how it's going to happen yet. But I'm all in. See, here's my big thing. And I've said this public a few times because that's due with the payouts because people are totally gaming the payouts.

system on X. What you should have to do is that it said the payouts are not by impressions. A lot of people get this wrong. Payouts are by replies. Elon said this. Everyone said this early on. So, but then I see people complaining and saying, oh, well, I got this many impressions, but it's not about that. It's about replies. And by the way, verified replies. So if you've just got like, if you're just a slop merchant that's just like, you know, churning out the, uh, purveying of the sloppaganda all day long that you're not necessarily going to get that unless you get the, verified replies. However, comma, what I would say is that you should set it so that the companies that are advertising, that those ad dollars should only be able to go to regions that they want

them to go to. So if you're, you know, if you're an American-based company, you want that, you want those ad dollars going to American accounts that are reaching an American audience, right? like that's how basic advertising works. So is that the way that it works? Because if you've got an account that's on another part of the world, that's affecting people in another part of the world, China's got 1.8 billion people, India's got 1.8 billion, whatever it is. But that is just a waste of money then.

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Just go to whyrefi.com and tell them your friend Andrews sent you. Tyler, you were going to say something and Jack cut you up. No, I can't remember what I was going to say. I think I was going to say something along the lines of the dislikes. I think you're going to have these scenarios too where, I mean, we've seen this where, you know, certain content is targeted by people. So it's by bots, but also there's, you know, meat puppetry that happens what they call meat puppetry online, where someone will go to, so if you're targeting Blake, for example.

A lot of people are. what happens. They'll go to like a telegram channel and they'll say, Blake just posted this. Everyone go dislike it. And that's, that's a, you know,

that's a sometimes a meat puppetry type scenario. A lot of the big streamers will do that. They'll just say like, oh, just posted this on X. Everyone go like it. Yeah, go like it or dislike somebody else's stuff.

I think the problem on X is if it's, I think it's actually, I think it's actually a positive not to see everyone that likes something. I think it should be. public who dislikes it. So as long as... Ooh. Interesting. So as long as... So I totally understand all the arguments for not being visible who likes it because that, you know, but I do think it should be public if you dislike it.

I do actually find that kind of interesting when you post something spicy on X and only you get to see who liked it. And you're like, oh, so-and-so like that. It's like very telling. Gives you a little lay of the land. But I think it's impactful. Like if they do do the dislike button, I think it's important to see who's disliking it because if you say something that's positive and people are just disliking it's sake to try to make you look bad. So like a bad political like so someone on the right. So let's say like this oftentimes will happen, right, is I'll post something that's super generic. And then like a bunch of trolls will just, you know, comment on my stuff about something that's totally like unrelated on my, on my feet has nothing to do with what I'm actually talking about. probably agree with what I'm saying.

Yeah. So if you have a dislike button, that's secret, though, a bunch of those trolls will just dislike it to try to make you look bad, even though they actually might agree with it. But if it's public, then they have to live with that they disagree. I haven't had been on Facebook for six years at this point, and I don't really miss it. But I will say what I did like about Facebook when I was still on it is they had, they were up to what, like six different reacts. You could have like, like, dislike, kind of heart eyes. react and like I don't know I'm kind of a sucker for like a wide range of emote reacts like yeah if you've ever been in a if you've ever been in like a slack group for work or whatever you've got a million different emotes discord's got a million i am like an emote response maximizer so I think we should go all in on on this for x and x should have dozens if not hundreds perhaps thousands millions of potential emote reacts maybe even have AI you could ask the AI to generate a custom emote response yep you

using Grock, you could say, I can only react to this with an image of like a gigantic bald eagle, uh, eating out the heart of Caesar Chavez. Like, and then it just generates that for you as an emo and then you, you post that and other people can react to the same way. Well, that's, I mean, you have like, uh, that's like a sticker pack. Like you go on, like, Telegram has sticker packs and Signal has sticker packs. Like, like, that's, that's kind of already used on social media, just not Twitter. I don't want stickers.

I want AI generated art. I demand this. In fact, if Elon Musk doesn't do this, I am going to, I'm going to be slightly annoyed and then probably forget I ever made this request. Amazing. Well, Jack is going to be upset because we didn't get to his Val Kilmer thing, but Val Kilmer is being resurrected by AI. It's such a good story. It's, no, we, we got the, we got the, we got the Kathy, or I'm sorry, Corey Richon's story in with, again, that's Tyler Robinson's defense lawyer.

So just putting that out for everybody, that potential preview of things to come. I dislike. I'm putting the downvote. The Val Kilmer coming up as AI. This was limited. It's limited to just this show. What's that? Now, her client was found not guilty. Excuse me, her client was found guilty in three hours. Yeah. Well, I'm. I will upvote that. But wait, Valcomer, what we, oh, Venezuela beat Team America.

That was the other topic we were going to get to. Well, I think we're out of time on it. So you just have to go up or down. President Trump truth after they won 51st state or statehood, something like that. Do you want? Oh, you're going, you're going thumbs down. Yeah. I can see the humor of it.

But no, just to warn everyone. Same with Cuba. He's wanting to make a state out of countries that have 30 million people. people who elected a socialist president. No. No. I don't want to get in 28 million people. Like, we've seen the problems from the people who have moved from Venezuela to the U.S.

Now imagine the 28 million diehards who are like, no, I'm not going to leave Venezuela for the U.S. No. No, they cannot come in. This is one of the reasons that Greenland is such a good idea because the population is so low. So, yes, is like, for example, is Cuba strategic territory, obviously. But the population is too high. cause too many problems. Same with Canada. Populations too high, too many migrants

cause too many problems. So vassalage, you know, there's certain things we could look at. Greenland, on the other hand, 100% statehood. Yeah, also, Greenland's bigger. Like, if we got Greenland, we'd be bigger than Canada. We'd be, like, approaching the size of Russia. I think there's a lot of... Yeah, I think there's a lot of conservatives

that are up in that part of the world that might move in. Guys, have you seen a Mercator projection? Think about how huge we'd be on a Mercator projection. Yeah, Venezuela's way too... Can you imagine the illegal I'm in a greener? into Venezuela. Illegal immigration into Venezuela? It would be insane.

I think it would be insane. Every Colombian. I know Alaska and Hawaii kind of break this rule, but I do think you should have to be connected to the lower 48, generally speaking. No, no. Alaska fine, whatever. I'm actually the exact opposite in that America's shape, the 48 state shape is actually a very good shape. Like it's very iconic looking. It's got the right amount of smooth and jagged edges and all of that.

Like, it's a good shape. So, like, when we see those maps where if we added Alberta, America would look stupid in silhouette if we added Alberta. We'd have this big dongle on the end of it. It would be awful. I would like, we really have to think about these things, guys. Wait, but Tyler, what about the, well, we already have Florida. What about the, you know, what about our plan for Arizona to get its beach?

Yeah, see that little strip. See, that wouldn't add that much onto the map. So it really wouldn't change. You could actually just drop. You could call that the Tete. That's the Arizona Tete. It goes. Just a T's just a T.

If you went straight across the southern border of Arizona all the way to the water, you could pretty much get it straight across the water. So you really wouldn't notice that much. And I actually think that Baja. When we extend Arizona's border, we'll have to extend all of the borders down more. No, but it doesn't extend. The southern border of Arizona already is flat. the way across that can go straight to water.

It goes up just slightly to dodge the water. It's stupid. Oh, you're right. It makes no sense. Yeah, you're right. No, it makes no sense. You know that we were, it makes no sense why we even. I'm so altistically upset about this. Did you know that President Polk's original demand was for all of Baja almost like a few more states?

Polk's demand was all the way down to like past like, uh, was it Durango? It was, yeah, it was basically like you would have gotten like Chihuahua, Sonora, like those states, which are totally empty. And then you get all of And Baja And all of Baja and No, but then you would also get What's the place where Ted Cruz went on vacation

And everyone got upset about? Cancun. Cancun. You get Cancun. I don't want the other side. Yeah, no, but Polk won the Yucatan. No, but Polk won the Yucatan. No, we don't need any of that nonsense.

No, Polk, but Polk like just wanted the desert And we should have got the desert. No, Polk wanted the Yucatan. But the Yucatan is late. He wanted the jungle. I don't want the jungle. He wanted the jungle. He wanted the jungle.

little jungle fear. Yeah, there's some, there's some interesting, no, it's not just jungle, though. That's the thing. This would totally derail this, but they've used, like, new LiDar sensors to, you know, do some,

some, like, almost infrared-style mapping of the jungle, and there's, like, all these ancient Mayan cities in there and stuff. Okay, but here's the problem. If we absorbed the ancient Mayan temples, we would inherit the ancient Mayan curse, and that would curse the United States.

We also would inherit, The modern minds that would vote against us. Like Cesar Chavez. Yes. And there we are full circle. We've done it, folks. We always know that out. All right, Jack, take us home.

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