The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 122 — Would You Rather? Musical IQ? 40-Year Single Parties?

Episode Date: April 11, 2026

The Thoughtcrime team fields a series of oddball hypotheticals from Blake, and also discusses important questions such as:   -Does your favorite band show your IQ? -Why are women throwing big fake weddings for turning 40? -Is the "Paul is Dead" Beatles theory real?   Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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because there might be a thought crime creeping up behind you yes so who we got on deck today I am of course in studio but it looks like we got AK 47 himself Andrew Colvat what's up Andrew what's up Jack has the weather back east yeah and we're waiting on Tyler and Tyler Tyler is joining Tyler's coming he's party as usual he he he he Claims he's coming. He's on what we call Mormon time. Okay. And it's a little,

a little bit different than, you know, regular time. The same reason that, you know, they don't go for daylight savings. They have different numerology. It's,

it's one of those things, right, Blake? Pretty much, yeah. He always, he always leaves us on our toes. You never know when he'll,

he'll surface. Yeah, well, like Jesus. I could be right behind me right now. He's like a thought crime. the team is ready for him when he enters let me just assure you know they say you know they say that 13% of thought crimes cause 50% of all the thought crimes what you know it's funny 13% of the

time they work every time so jack you know it's funny that you actually are onto something probably about 13% of the thought crimes that we do on this show end up going viral in one way shape or another but more than 50% of that involve lord of the rings Jack He's still right about that Still pagan She's still pagan Overtly pagan

Not gonna know Wait don't we have the line Overtly Overtly pagan See there it is Overtly pagan That's becoming like a meme now Every time I post something

They're like Oh Jack is that overtly pagan too Because I was like I went to see like the Actually I have it here This isn't branded but I went to see the Super Mario Galaxy with my kids. Was that pagan?

The thing, they're like, they're like Super Mario Galaxy, overtly pagan. I mean, is it? Is Super Mario Galaxy? Is it pagan? I feel like it's got to be, right? Yes. Yeah, no, absolutely.

Obviously, I mean, it's got, it's got wizards, turtle wizards. I'm on a set with two Catholics right now. You guys have me beat on the identifying of pagan things. Mario is Italian, and I feel like him being. Italian implicitly means Well so actually

Here we go Wait so this is wait no There's actually a great line about this Because the legend of Zelda So you know Link the main character in the legend of Zelda Everyone thinks his name of Zelda It's not actually Link that if you go back I think in the Japanese versions of like

The original Legend of Zelda He is like explicitly Catholic And they've got like crosses and On his shield and there's like Bibles But it's like the Japanese version of the Middle Ages. So it's like, it's like,

he has actual magical powers and abilities as well. And then in the American version, they changed it up. Yeah, they do. Oh, they definitely have,

there's, did you ever play Castlevania back in the day? Do you know that one? It's where you have a whip and you fight Dracula and stuff. And in the manual, it is canonical in the manual

that the Pope called a crusade against Dracula. And that's why you have to go kill Dracula. Wow. Because the Pope's ordered you to do it. You know, we really didn't talk. enough on this show about, because I think we covered in the daily show,

but the Japanese-American connection, how strong it is. Oh, it's great. We love it. Gave us the, like, the Twitter purge we all needed.

We love our Japanese. Yeah, I, so good. I have a, I need to go to Japan. You've been to Japan. Yes,

I have. You went with Charlie, but I have not gone to Japan. Oh, you're very go-to-able place. Wow. I feel like I, like,

really want to, though, no, actually. I bet, I, so when I was in, when I was in,

when I was in, you know, Japan obviously was like our headquarters to anything that was, you know, like conference wise or that I had to go to for whatever reason would be in Yucco. So, you know, you're coming up. You're flying through Tokyo. And I mean, it's just the, I'll never forget, you know, just riding around on the metro in Japan and seeing how kids, it's so safe that they let their kids just ride mass transit to like go to school by themselves. They're like, there you go. and it's like, and it's kind of jarring at first.

You're like, where are the parents for these children? And they're just like, you know, dressed for school and they're going, like, little kids. And they're just like dressed for school and with their uniforms, then off they go. And it's, it's very, it's just very neat and orderly. I remember that with some of Charlie's selfie videos and, like, social media videos. But that was actually, I remember him saying that about South Korea, actually. South Korea was the one where he was walking. I mean, that was where he walked through the park and the people are on like the bubble chairs.

And those would obviously be, like, covered with. graffiti and graffiti in America, which is sad. We don't have to live this way, but we've decided to import a permanent underclass. Though what I will say, Korea is the place. Korea is the dirty version of Japan. So if Korea is clean,

Japan is hyper clean. But you guys went to South Korea first. And China is like 10 times like 10,000 times worse than Korea. Japan is incredible. So also Blake, you remember the trash can thing in Japan? Yes.

the fact that they don't exist. Exactly. Oh, hold on. Do we have a musical cue? We have music playing. Is this Japanese? Someone is arriving. No, it's Tyler.

It's the Tyler Bowyer late arrival theme song. This is Mormon music. Mormon theme song. Is this Mormon music? Yes. I think it is. It must be. He wouldn't listen to it if it wasn't.

Oh, this is... Not allowed to. Is it, like, mandated? This is, uh, new shoes. New shoes. This is one of my favorite. If I was, if I was... going to have a podcast this would be my intro well if I was making your if I was

making your theme song for you arriving late it would probably be I'd probably go I feel like Charlie would be like we would like find out like a few minutes before like the podcast he's like it's like I'm not gonna be there or I'll be late and then we would have to like stall that's you you're the new you're the next four last four weeks I feel like all right well since there's so we were well no I want to want to hit on this more so so Tyler we were just kind of like I don't remember how we got there, but we were sort of loving on Japan and talking about how Japan and America really need to like be allies now. And that was like a big trend on Twitter.

Trump met with the prime minister, the new prime minister of Japan in the White House and, you know, that kind of just. And then, but at the same time, Twitter, like, they sort of did this bot purge. I don't know if it was a full bot purge or something, but it just made it so that Americans could see Japanese accounts more. And for people don't know that for a long time, Japan has been the largest country on Twitter. That has the largest daily active users, DAUs, for any country, even more than America. It's just sort of like their main social media there in Japan. And, you know, people didn't realize that the Japanese had so much affection for the United States of America. And, you know, that led to this kind of, you know, rekindling of the bromance or perhaps like,

Perhaps you could even say like a, like a, you know, blessing of the bromance between America and Japan. And of course, that I came out and said on human events that we need to go a step further and we need to remilitarize Japan. We need to allow them to have their full Navy back. Let him get nuclear weapons. Like, let's go all in. The memes have been so good, though. For the record, it wouldn't be the first time that we gave Japan news. Ooh.

just in a different way. It's not too soon. It's not too soon. It's not too soon. Trump made the joke about Pearl Harbor, remember? Because that's kind of what started all this. All right. Now,

where he goes, wait, do we have it? No, we don't. We should have. Oh, because he goes, just for anyone who hasn't heard it, he goes, they said, well, you know, why didn't you tell us about the, I guess it was like a Japanese reporter or something. Like, why didn't you tell us about the surprise attack on Iran? Why didn't you tell us about Pearl Harper?

Yeah, no, we saw it. We saw it. No, but we, speaking of a country that used to be a U.S. ally. Excuse me. We have another country. So now people are saying Japan is our best ally or our best friend. Hold on. Now they finally got us video.

Perhaps our greatest ally. Yeah, no. Should we play a video since we're talking about? No, no, no, I want to, we have, we have, we saw that before. We've got to get to, we've got to get to the ex-U.S. ally, the decaying U.S. ally. It was a special relationship. Now it's more of just very special in. in that special way, which is the UK.

The UK is banning travel from America to Japan, at least if you are one specific person. I, yes, and that person would be, well, he has multiple names. He does have many names. Kanye, Kanye West. What do we call? Is it Yee now?

Is that what you're supposed to do? I don't care. I call him Kanye West because when they change the name too much, it's not my obligation to know what it is. Yeez-is. Yis-is. there it is did you like

yeah i gotta say though wait do we have the video do we have the video of that um what do they call it the world stage that he was using with the with the fog because we can you know that that was him standing on it but dude look at this

is this not the coolest stage you've ever seen it really is I'm sorry it's the coolest stage I've ever seen I've also never seen that is a cool stage I also think that that was the widest crowd that Kanye's ever had it. Look at this. Where was this?

Look at this. I think that was in California at the, at the Intuit, yeah. That's sick. Was it? Oh, I thought that was sphere. I thought that was one of those sphere things. Oh, was it? I thought he did his concert at the Intuit, though.

That was amazing. But I saw a video of it. I just found out that, oh, wait, I don't want to say this. Shoot. Okay, never mind. Blame my last. I'm not going to say that because it might be a surprise for Tanya. And she watches this.

I saw, like, people taking videos from the crowd. And I was just, like, interested, like, who showed up. And it was a very white crowd. At this thing? At Kanye's concert. Well, and again, I think I think Kanye's appealed to a lot of people, a lot of people of different diverse backgrounds. But it was definitely, there was definitely, he's definitely gained a lot of new,

wider fans probably probably is that just a way of saying that he's because he's embraced certain controversial political views about world war two anti-semitic that he no I'm not saying anything I'm just I would expect him to have a less white audience if he does that yeah exactly

that's yeah I think I think that that's more popular what's interesting about this though is he's been on this like apology tour trying to say hey I'm you know he's going with the like Jewish rabbi saying sorry and then he gets blocked. This is very, I, I don't understand how this even happened. Like, why would the

UK go out of their way to block Kanye? What's the explanation they're giving? Just because of, they want us to be stuck with him. No, they've blocked people before. They blocked Michael Savage. Yeah. Michael Savage. Michael Savage can go. Yeah. Oh, the, he's banned Lauren Southern as well. Conservative commentator. I'm sort of a two minds on this. One, I don't know why we're supposed to care that much about what Kanye West says. And I thought it was weird. when we had that episode, especially a couple years ago. Is that the real thought crime? Like, why do you?

Like, why do people care what Kanye West has to say? Like, as far as I'm concerned, rap is not really music. He has to say. Rap is not really music. And on top of that, like, when they say insane things, it's really just barely a step above a crazy guy on the subway saying insane things.

And I don't feel that Kanye is that far away from that. Caboose, could we get some, can we get some Kanye tracks that you actually like? Or are you against Kanye? Well, here's what's the most crazy part of this. One of the most popular, again, I don't like the song, but one of those popular songs ever was his collaboration that he did for American Boy. I don't even know it.

Does anybody know this song? American. I don't know that one. No. No, I proudly don't. It's a British song. Yeah. It's about.

Wait, no, Tyler. What was that song? It's about a British. Last year, though, it went pretty viral. It's about a British girl being into an American guy. Yeah. And Kanye is, is, did the, did the collab on that. And now he can't go to the UK.

My, my favorite thing, that is full circle. My favorite thing that Kanye sort of had a hand in doing was, you remember when he did that music video with Kim Kardashian on the motorcycle? No. You don't? No. I don't really know Kanye. Okay. Until, until he started running for president, I couldn't have told you a Kanye song.

That's the video. uh so bound to so it's just super weird the whole music video is like them on a motorcycle and it's like gyrating like i don't know and kim kardashian is not wearing a whole lot or anything at all and then anyways but the point is seth rogan and james franco did a whole mock like parody of it where where set rogan's writing on we should get this we should get this um oh i think Estelle that did that song with Kanye was at that concert I think she showed up as one of this

because he had a bunch of guest appearances I think she was I think she came out and sang with it I don't know well anyways we don't seem that passion about Kanye nobody seems to care well I care I just I kind of treat I fold Kanye in with all other rappers which is

I just aggressively want to dump on them why do people like this stuff I think it is a setback for the right that people on the right are fans of rap music. That's not Kanye, though. This is Kanye. This is Estelle with Kanye.

This is his version of it? Stelle sings a song. Is he just the guy mumbling? She sings this song and then he wraps. Oh. I didn't realize. Here we go. Wait, no.

Speed up. It's further up. It's further. Do we have to listen to this whole song? Oh, that's Kanye? Yeah. I remember this. I was still

more plugged in. Was that song really enhanced by having a guy like jabbering in it? Yeah, he's the American boy in the song. I mean, that's not who she wrote the song for,

but in this, in that version. Here's more Kanye. But that was a very, it's a very popular song. But that's, isn't that? This is a big hit.

Okay, it was a big hit. So what? So was the Barbie girl song. Here's my question. What if a, America banned popular British people from coming to America? It would be like World War II.

Are there any popular British? Yeah, imagine. Who would we lose if we banned? That's a question. How is British media doing with this? Imagine if we banned, I don't know, I can't even think of it. The Beatles? Well, yeah, the Beatles.

I mean, I don't know if you could compare Kanye now to like, keep Beatles. Well, I mean, there was that time that George Harrison wrote. song titled Heil Hitler. So the summer's wireless festival. It was John Lennon who had the Hitler stuff. Yeah, yeah. I mean, John Lennon, I guess that's a good point. Like, you could probably compare Kanye West and John Lennon. Yeah, you could. And like, if we, if we would have banned John stuff. If we would have banned John Lennon, yeah, he said tons of controversial political stuff. To be fair, I think Nixon did try to ban John Lennon. Yeah, but if he would have done that,

it would have been World War III. no but i mean i think he did actually try to do it like they were trying to pull his um his immigration or something oh yeah yeah nixon wanted to also john lennon once proposed putting hitler on the cover of sergeant peppers oh see yeah so okay again like like he's there's a lot of like provocative people on the sergeant peppers album if you if you look closely so here's here's the thought card it's like a whole array of you know dead celebrity famous people etc here Which includes Paul McCartney who died in between the filming or the recording of Revolver and Sergeant Pepper and was secretly replaced by a guy by the name of Billy Shears.

And because, as we know, Paul McCartney actually died and in a car crash and there's like secrets hidden in the lyrics. I wasn't expecting this. I have to say. But death of recess, it stopped me in my tracks. This isn't about dodge balls and jungle gyms. It's about control. modern American classroom didn't just happen. It was intentionally designed. It was standardized and centralized. And once you see who built it and who protects it, everything clicks. Billions of dollars are

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If you're a parent or plan to be, you need to see this. That's angel.com slash Charlie and watch death of recess. Okay, so, but here's the thought. I hadn't even heard this. Here's the thought cramp. You didn't know that Paul McCartney died in 1966 and was replaced? I've never heard of the Paul's Dead conspiracy. No.

No, it's real. You're even behind Mike Huckabee on that one. I remember Huckabee once did a whole Paul is dead thing while running for president. And you think it's real? Paul is dead. You actually believe it, Jay? That Paul is dead. I mean, it's, you just, you have to believe the, the songs. It's all there. It's all there.

It's so, which song do they say, which song do they say reveals this? That has the hidden. Well, there's a song in, uh, like all of them. There's a song in the white album that is titled Paul McCartney is dead, but don't talk about the song and don't tell anyone about it and just pretend this doesn't exist, but it's on this album. He's dead and he was replaced by this guy. So the track list. I'm so tired. It's the song I'm so tired, Ellen, on Revolver

has that at the end of it. It's where it's like, if you play it backwards, you hear, you hear, miss him, miss him, Paul is dead. And, and there's a bunch of like hidden clues within the Sergeant Pepper album. For example,

on the cover of Sergeant Pepper, someone has like an open hand over Paul McCartney's head. And they say that that in like Eastern religions, like Hinduism, that we know that the Beatles were like heavily into around this time. They'd gone and hung out in India. And they were like tight with Robbie Shankar, George Harrison was.

And whose daughter is Nora Jones, funny enough. You know so much about this. So I guess it's really convenient in this version of the story. And so that's like a sign of death, basically. Okay. So is it really convenient in this story then that they found a guy who not only looked like Paul McCartney, but was also a transcendently good songwriter because Paul McCartney or his imposter has continued to write songs and they've been well received.

Maybe they just went through some of the recorded tracks that were never released and he just started releasing. Yeah, but if you have to explain why they're still a talented songwriter, what if John Lennon was actually still alive secretly? And he was writing the music attributed to Paul McCartney even after his thoughts. Yeah, he was. So John was alive for a decade after the Beatles. So yeah, you can see like Cartney looks a lot. like young McCartney. So you see the hand over the head.

There's stuff, you know, over Paul. You can see there's, what is it like with the doll on the far right? You know, there's supposed, it's like a Freddie Kruger kind of like like shears, like scissors. I think there's something, what is the one thing? Where's the, there's like a car on the kids knee and that's supposed to be a reference to the, you know, the death of Paul McCartney and a car crash. And there's that song on the on the white album that Ringo sings where it talks about you, you know, I'm so, you know, you. Wait, hold on. It's flying.

It's, um, you were in a car crash and you lost your hair. And you're forgetting the big one, Jack. You're forgetting the big one, which is the cover of Abbey Road, which is Paul McCartney is one. He has his right foot in front of him instead of his left. Yeah. So I can walk through that. I'm secretly dead. So he's barefoot.

And he's barefoot. So, so the cover of Abby Road. is actually a funeral possession. And so you have John Lennon is there as the, you know, like the angel. Then that's why he's all white. Then Ringo Star is in all black. So he's like the priest. Then Paul is the one being buried.

And then George, of course, is the grave digger. So him being barefoot while he's on on asphalt on a sunny day when it's hot, that signifies death. The fact that he has a cigarette. his right hand, even though everybody knows that Paul McCartney was left-handed, you know, shows that it's an imposter. Man, there was something with the license plate as well that I forget of the beetle that you can see in the back there.

No. You've never heard of this? But honestly, I have, no, but I'm like, are you faking that you don't know because the Mormon church was involved? No, the Beatles, the Beatles are so disinteresting to me. Like, I'm so disinterested in that time period. Did the Mormon Church condemn the Beatles all the time? the most innovative bands,

clearly the most popular band. There will never be a band at more popular than the Beatles. I actually agree with that. And I hate that. Hold on. I hate that about the Beatles. So these are Paul McCartney's

post-Beedles career spanning solo work and wings produced numerous hits, critically acclaimed tracks. Check this out. Band on the run. The Beatles? Maybe I'm amazed.

That's a huge song. But here's the deal. The Beatles were... Live and let die. Jet coming up. The Beatles did so much damage to... American, the American youth.

How so? I just think their influence was so negative at a time that that was an outlet for people that were turning away from like basic American principles and they were a, oh, so you'll say that about the Beatles, but you won't say that about Lord of the Rings, who those people were also into. Oh, gosh. I don't want to cause you more problems than you already have with Lord of the Rings fans, Jack. overtly

and I will cause it him more problems The same group of people in the 1960s loved Lord of the Rings Lord of the Rings was like the hippie Bible Hold on

I don't talk about Zeppelin We're going to talk about the effects Like we have to We have to be fair about this Okay Listen I'm back to the Beatles The Beatles

Were like Like subverting American culture At the time They turned hearts Young hearts and minds away from pro-American values, and you can't change my mind.

So you're saying that you know that there was a plot against Paul. Could be. Yeah, he's kind of playing into your stereotype here. Yeah. That very well could be. So what's interesting is I heard this one time. It was a cultural critic about the Beatles, and he was saying, you know, everybody wanted to hear what the Beatles had to say.

the only problem with the Beatles is they said nothing. And I think that's kind of interesting. It was sort of, they said stuff, obviously, but they didn't really have like something they were. We're complaining that the Beatles don't have a hard-hitting political message. I feel we've got plenty of hard-hitting political messages. Well, nowadays we do. Yeah, now we have.

Tyler's point, maybe like if you have this whole sort of malaise with the youth, then turning away from traditional values. And they're kind of emblematic of that, this like ethereal nothingness that they were leading everybody into yeah i would agree with that i actually think the beatles entire vibe was like uh you know it's almost like don't care about things except for your own emotions like like very self-centered think about they don't they don't really have like you think back some of their lyrics they don't really have anything to say they didn't and i remember thinking that that like some of their biggest tracks i mean like i want

to hold your hand okay that was like one of the originals like okay it's a love song But, like, you keep going down as they got more, like, eclectic and more experimental. I don't really know what the message was. I think, well, I think there needs to be a message for songs. Well, I think it's like in the cultural context of the time, yeah, it kind of makes sense that they were leading everybody nowhere. So you're saying we should have banned the Beatles from America. A thousand percent. Yeah.

No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't think that art needs to have a message like that. I think it's just can just stand on its own. I think they're great artists. I mean, I don't think that strong of thoughts about any of those stuff, to be honest. But I mean, listen, I think they're very talented. I think to who said it, whose point, there will never be another Beatles that has that sort of like cultural dominance and, you know, beetle mania and all of this stuff.

And just the, the songs that they have, there's so many huge hits. Like, I just don't think we'll ever see anything like it again. I just, I don't know. It just does, I kind of resonate with what Tyler's saying on some level because it was, as was a time when kids were turning their backs on traditional values and going to nowhere. It was a road to nowhere. Reading Lord of the Rings. Because Lord of the Rings was their favorite novel. I think most importantly was that any... Yes, it is.

Go look it up. The hippies loved Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings was they viewed the hobbits as like the pot smokers. They viewed the hobbits as like the Shire was like a commune that was like communistic. They viewed the Mordor was like the military industrial complex and corporate society and they had to fight against that. And it was always seen up until the movies came out as a vehicle of the left. It was totally embraced by the hippie counterculture movement. Yeah, but then they made the movie and it was awesome.

So now it's straight and right wing and awesome. Zuzu's pedals donated $1 and says, sadly the Beatles became dirty hippies. That's true. Also, Zuzu pedal earlier, she said she would, she should, we would ban a. Adele from the U.S. is what she said. I think that the... I like Adele. I'm pointing out everyone's hypocrisy here that if we're going to talk about the Beatles

impact on culture, we should talk about Lord of the Rings impact on the 60s. Hold on. Hold on. Can you name me, Jack, the drummer before... Pete Best. Ringo. Ringo. Who? Pete Best. Yeah, you got it. Did you know that? No. Ringo ended up being...

There was also Stu Sutcliffe. Huh. Wow. I didn't know that you were such a fan. Yeah. Did you know that the Beatles, like, performed all over Europe for like years just being a kind of a journey. Yeah. The cavern in Hamburg, Germany. They played in Hamburg for lunch. And that's how they got good. That's how they got good. They just played every night in Hamburg. Every night, like for hours. At least that's the theory from Malcolm Blackwell.

There's actually a couple versions of like, I want to hold your hand in German. Come give me that game der hand. Come keep me guy in their hand. that you can actually get with the Beatles singing it. Much about the Beatles. Did you engineer this Kanye topic just so we could talk about the Beatles? What is it? What was the one? She loves you is like she leap dick or something.

Like she leap dick, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay, we're going to something like that. My German sucks. As a clip too. I should leap. All right. Well, hold on.

Just to put a final, like, you know, I guess point, fine point on this. Topics. See, yeah, see, Leap. Yeah, I was right. We have a related topic off of this. I think we should do that next. All right, fine. Which is the bigger picture thing. We got it.

We got it, Jack. The big picture idea is, does the music you like show your IQ? And the answer is the science is settled 150% yes, your favorite band reveals how smart you are. Really? Yes. What if your favorite band is not on you? Let's throw up, throw up number 12. This is the chart.

that was made uh it's now it's going to be able to read it i suppose but it's someone like did a big i think they compared what your SAT score your SAT score average versus the band you list as your favorite so where the Beatles at oh let's go check this one uh it's i don't think they're there here you can see some of the dumb ones wait so you the most the most famous most impactful band in in the history was not it's not on this no the Beatles are on that right they have Yeah, the Beatles. The Beatles are definitely on here. There's a lot of bands on this list. The highest IQ, the highest SAT score by a mile, actually, is Beethoven.

Some other bands that finish high is Counting Crows. I don't even know who that is. You don't know who the counting crows? I mean, I've heard of them, but I can tell you the genre. Round here. The dumbest one, the dumbest. Oh, gosh. The dumbest artist is Lil Wayne.

Something radiance. That wasn't their, like, big hit. Their biggest hit was... Was a... Shal La la la la la. La da da da da da da. What? Is that the...

Miss... The girl from the little mermaid? That's what I heard. That was the little mermaid. Yeah. Oh, I see it. The Beatles. The Beatles are probably about...

The Beatles are pretty high. The Beatles look like they're about, like, 75th, 80th percentile. They're an SAT of about 11th. Yeah, there they are. 1140. No, but round here by the County Crows is one of the best songs ever read. Wait, why is you too so high?

Because if you're listening to them, you... Irish. You apparently have more refined tastes. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, why would you to be that high? When I looked at this list, I was like, my, most of my bands that I probably listen to are not on this.

Keep the B-roll scrolling so the listeners can see it and identify where. their bands are on there. Argumemnon, which is an amazing username, I must say. Argue Memnon. That's awesome. Says that Counting Crows equals complaining rock. It is complaining rock. That's great. Mr. Jones and me was great.

Long December is definitely more of a... Counting Crows and that 90s vibe, like that early 90s, that was the mother of all emo music. Yeah, the bands just so you're looking at the screen, the bands on the left are dumb. And the bands

on the right. So if you're a taking back Sunday fan, you're kind of done here. I look Switchfoot. I do not agree that if you like Switchfoot, you're as dumb as a Maroon 5 fan.

Well, deal with it. This is science. Yellow card. So anyway. I don't like either. We actually had all of us send in. We had all of us look at this list

and submit their top five so we can finally determine. This is much clearer than the thing I was looking at. I couldn't even read half the... Why is Aerosmith so low? That's weird. Well, it's not low.

I think it's just like, Like it matters on the left to right axis. The y axis here does not mean anything. That's what I'm saying. Like why is it so left? Look at Beyonce. Beyonce is for dumb. It's confirmed.

But anyway, we did have everyone sign off their list. So let's go through it. How about we do? Let's do Tyler first because he was last getting in. And you know, they say the last Shelby first. So we've got Tyler's list.

What are his top five? Let me see here. Something corporate. Jimmy Eat World. System of a down. That's not mine. That's not mine. it's not no that that wasn't those are the ones i i didn't have what are the ones you circled it was

something corporate jimmy world yellow yellow card counting crows and i can't remember oh we have an inaccurate tyler top five that's not going to cut it yeah it's it was that was it might have been my circle all right on to the next one all right let's go to jacks what's jack's top five we have radio head the beetles okay so he loves this hippie pagan band let it be noted It's an overtly pagan. Overtly pagan band. David Bowie definitely. We've seen Labyrinth.

That's a pagan movie. David Bowie, I'm into these. We have Nirvana. I like your list, Jay. I like your list. Nirvana.

This is my list out of like what's on here. Yeah, exactly. I'm a huge, I'm a huge smashing pumpkins fan. And I don't see the pump. I didn't see the pumpkins anywhere on there. So that would be my. It was so far to the left, Jack,

that you must have missed it. No, actually, they were so far to the right. Right. They're off the chart. They just blew the bell curve. Yeah. I,

okay, so I like Radiohead. I like some of the Beatles song. I'm not like a Beatles, like fanatic. David Bowie, I like his movies better than his music. Nirvana,

like them, Metallica, like them. Bowie's phenomenal. Bowie's, I got to see him a ton of times in concert. I never really, I never really have absorbed David Bowie,

but maybe I'll have to go back and. I'm sure. That's pretty high score. I've heard it. I've heard, I've heard, I've heard, David Bowie song.

All right. Do we have, do we have an Andrew Rebel, rebel? Did Andrew make one? All right, Andrew, we've got

Bob Dylan, do you just love band like singers who are out of key? Oh, wow. I, um, how does it feel?

So here, I like Bob Dylan for a lot of reasons. Actually, the guy who married me is a guy named Don Williams, me and my wife. A guy married you? Sorry,

that did come out wrong. The, the pastor who married my wife and I, um, wrote a book about Bob Dylan in his Christian faith. And so that sent me down a whole rabbit trail where I started listening to Bob Dylan's song. So I became a really big Bob Dylan song just lyrically.

Obviously, his voice was, you know. Trouble in. It was not perfect. By the way, and then I ended up dating a girl when I was, I don't know, like 25, I think. And her family house was right next to where Bob Dylan's house was in Point Doom in, in, in Malbu. And so I, it's very, anyway, I just got into Bob Dylan.

It's a long story. Pearl Jam, love them. Seattle band. You love, so you love Bob Dylan, so you like singers who are out of key. I went to university Washington up in Seattle.

Yeah, Pearl Jam is like the most left wing band in the planet. Jimmy E. World and then George Strait because I was like, give me some country in there because I listen to country. And I know, which I, everything on the list, country was low IQ. So what are you to do?

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Check them out, please. Well, I guess I can't escape from having my list. Although mine is definitely the toughest. I was the one who, like, bit the bullet and just circled, like, the genre ones, which, yeah, like classic rock. Wait, I don't think I saw a queen.

Wait a minute. I don't think I actually saw a queen on the list. I might want to revise my. Probably because your musical choices are so dumb, you can't read. Techno? No, not tech. So I listen to an absolute crap load of synthwave music.

You literally have like that. That's all that same bands as me. Fantasy, like fake 80s music that they made. And I listen to tons of that. You can just like circle classic rock. But I did just circle classic rock. That's fake and. And then I had Metallica there.

I mean, overall my choices are dumb. But luckily. You like Green Day? I didn't really like a lot. I really don't listen to a lot of these bands, which is why it's a good thing. Because I came out with, you know, frankly, let's just say, the lowest IQ average.

I like pretty dumb music. But luckily, hold on, hold on, the thing is, is they did just do an updated version of the study today that added one band, throw it up. We have the number one actual list. And come on, throw it up. Throw it up. You don't have it. I sent it to you guys. Uh-oh.

You guys are killing me. Well, I'm going to have to hold you guys in suspense and filibuster until they have it ready to go. Like, top five are the lowest IQ of all. They are, but there's a new number. one IQ spot. Isn't that weird though that you are you are kind of viewed as the smartest person here and you have the lowest IQ I actually do genuinely kind of like slightly dumb music I must say. You like you like Beyonce. Like you probably do have the highest IQ out of all of us. That's probably true. Okay finally. All right. They got it. So breaking new science came in and actually the highest IQ band by a long shot is Megadeth.

featuring Dave Mustaine. We have songs like, he sells, but who's buying? We have Rust and Peace. Can we get some Megadeth? Yeah, do do like Symphony of Destruction or Tornado of Souls or something.

Those are both good ones. Do you stain, baby. This is shocking stuff. Yeah, so that's like by far, all the way to the right, it's to the right of Beethoven, even. The highest IQ band. By a mile is thrash metal

pioneers. Who did this? study. Okay. Blake is now doing air guitar. Well, it's like there was a classic article in The Onion, which pointed out, humanity is still producing new art as though Megadeth's Rust and Peace doesn't already exist. Really, we could have stopped music.

You guys are liking all these 90s bands. Ooh, I love Radiohead. I love Pearl Jam. Here's what happened. In 1990, Megadeth released Rust in Peace. It had Rust and Peace. Polaris, Holy Wars, The Punishment Do, Hanger 18, tornado

of souls, it had all of those on one album. We really didn't need any more music after that. No, but Andrew. It's fairly self-indulgent. Did you know that, so Dave Mustaine was, from Megadeth, was the original guitarist of Metallica. I didn't know that. Yes. That's cool. That is actually cool.

Specifically, if you listen to their first album, Killem All, a lot of those, like, songs, the rips, the solos, even though it's Kirk Hammett, I believe, who actually plays on the album, a lot of that was written by Dave Mustaine. So, like, the early Metallica stuff and Megadeth, kind of have the same origin, basically.

But he was fired by Metallica. Why? Because he was kind of crazy. Drinking. A lot of drinking. I guess why do bands break apart? It's also why he's this... When Yoko Ono, I bet you know all the Yoko Ono lore.

Let's see, we've got a... I do, but... You know, I think a lot of it's highly exaggerated, honestly. I really do. I think they were just burned out, man. They went hard for, like, what was it? What was their, what was the Beatles years? 10 years, 1960 to 1970.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like a, that's a heck of a decade. X, Y guy. X, Y guy is responding, Beethoven, Bach Handel, put all of these lists to shame. That's true. And then he says, lead singer from Rush ain't no dummy. But if he was a proper Rush fan, X, Y, guy, should be named Y Y, YZ guy.

So you should change your monitor, bro. Did we have the update in my list? I want to see what my numbers were compared to Blitz. Your average is probably somewhere around 10. Counting Crows brings me up high because counting crows is 1214. A love rush. Something, so I've never heard. Blink and yellow card really pull me down.

I have never heard of something corporate in my life. Is this some. Oh my gosh. Something corporate's incredible. I've heard the name, but I couldn't tell you anything they do. No, you know You probably know That song

Oh, I'm thinking Jack's Mannequin Because it turned into Jack's Mannequin I've never heard of Jack's Manikin either It was something corporate Chances are if I've heard any of these bands I'll only have heard them because they were on a Tony Hawk's pro skater soundtrack Were any of these guys on Tony Hawk's Pro Skater soundtrack I don't know if any of these were

I know someone who was Yellow Card, Myel Primus Jerry was a race car driver Yeah Well done I don't know But this is all like punk.

This is all punk emo. Postal service is very... Where's Primus? How come Primus isn't on the list? Primus sucks. And it really... I picked... Punk rock princess?

I picked... Yeah, punk rock. Oh, geez. Uh-oh. Oh. Just blast a... There'll be a punk rock princess. Wait a minute.

Garage ban king. I'm getting hit by ads. I'm just trying to... It's getting wrecked by ads. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Uh-oh. I woke up in a car.

I woke up in a car I woke up in a car I don't recognize it All right You don't recognize that It's like California It's like California rock I didn't grow up in California

Yeah I didn't grow up in California either More to the point I have avoided California my entire life Yeah This is something corporate Yeah something corporate This is great This is great music by the other

All of these bands All of these bands Sound the same It's like I'm gonna play on this guitar It is a little emo. Actually, something corporate was, is actually what my wife and I danced to as our song.

It's called a song called Herkin. Jack's a little playing guitar right now. This is the first. It's actually my fretless acoustic bass. Oh, fretless acoustic bass. Fretless acoustic bass. It's kind of like out of tune though. Is that like a guitar hero controller?

So I have a theory about all these all these IQs. I actually think it's more based off of the time time. So the more popular someone was in a certain era probably made you more smart. Go on. So some of that 90s.

So some of that 90s music, like Pearl Jam was pretty up there, wasn't it? Pearl Jam. I would say it's the opposite. I think that's a lagging indicator. I think that a smarter population likes smarter music. So the popularity of dumb music getting better means you have more dumb people.

I think it could be a combination of bull. So you have errors of smarter people. Like people were really stupid in the 60s. I will say like people were stupid, but actually the population was still like closer to the traditional values, the things that made America great. They had like remnant smarts. So if you listen to the lyrics of like classic rock or, rock in the 60s. I mean, it was elevated.

More so. It was more musically complex, do you know, about that? They had more key changes, more time signature changes. There's more musical variety. There's more dynamic range. You'll have music that is quiet and then loud. It'll have a wider range. For some reason,

they compress all their music. Music is very refined and simplified. It's almost like, it's actually kind of like what they do with drugs or fast food. They figure out how to make it more addictive and catchy, yet as a result, it's extremely simplified and you don't get truly transcend. You're talking about now. Yes, now. Yeah. Yeah, well, it's because it's the Walmartification. Yeah. It's the big boxification of American music. And it's going to be even worse because now we can write catchy pop beats with

AI. And there's already hit AI music on Spotify and all of that. But I think eventually we're just going to, it's just going to be a matter of course that the pop star is just maybe going to be a brand. have a lot of AI generated fluff for the songs on their albums. Because who cares? I bet there's tons of AI going into K-pop music right now. But if you like, Caboose, to Blake's point, play the chain by Fleetwood Mac. 1977, there's the dynamic range that you're talking about all over the place. I think there's, I do think there is like sort of timing changes in it as well.

like if you compare the chain by Fleetwood Mac 1977 yeah but I mean we're not going to have time to listen to this like eight minutes great song it's such a good song it is a good song I mean like it's like but like okay

so but like and then you go to you had that quick by the way he's very good okay so but then there's a different parts of the song is what I'm saying the complexity of that song will be anything

modern music. Well, that's like Bob Dylan, right? That's why I picked Bob. Yeah. That's like, I mean, but that, that actually, that actually supports the Bob Dylan theory on the. I think Bob Dylan's like really smart music. You know, what I would say is interesting. What I would say is interesting.

If you think of, I feel like tower, you think of the standard song. So many songs are basically verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, and then like the chorus again or something. when you think of the songs that are most likely to top a list of the absolute best songs in rock history or musical history, have you ever noticed almost none of them seem to actually follow that format? So I remember going up. Like queen. Well, so yeah, exactly. Bohemian Rhapsody doesn't follow that.

Yeah, I was just going to say that. Don't stop believing. Doesn't follow that. Stairway to heaven doesn't follow that. All three of those are irregular progressive songs. Progressive in terms of they just change throughout. I find that interesting. You can't just say that like, just because something breaks.

the mold like means it's going to be good or it's going to be popular because like go go look at like tool for example like nothing nothing the tool puts out you know fits that and has tons of time changes Danny Carey you know on drums like it's known for time changes but it you know that's not like quote unquote super popular but but blake's point is actually a really good one because I and I've never really thought about it this some of my favorite songs of my favorite artists it's a good one I haven't thought about this, but it's a really like... Like Jimmy World, one of my favorite songs ever is Good by Sky Harbor,

and it follows, it's that same thing. Well, think about... My favorite Guns and Rosen, Rose songs, November rain has an irregular structure. Hammers and Strings. Sweet Child of Mine has an irregular structure. No, my favorite's on thinking about it right now. American Pie is still verse chorus. It's just really long.

Some of my favorite songs ever have been totally around. I mean, the fact that it's really long, though, breaks sort of like... So speaking of music... Well, like, I think at least... to longer songs do follow that. So the irregularity creates longer songs because they have different. Yeah, we've got a good flow to this.

So to get into our third topic, so you mentioned, was something corporate your dance song at your wedding or what was your first dance song? Okay, so that was that. What was your first dance song at your wedding? Something corporate hurricane. Don't get me in trouble.

You don't, oh no. Oh, no. No, like I think it was something like, so we had a great musical, like wedding. I mean, we had great music. We had a live band and all the stuff, but I think our first dance song was like pretty savvy. That's fine. Sappy's great. Jason Maras. How about, you, Jack? What was your first dance song? So you didn't pick it. So we did like two. Um, we did like a slow song and a fast song. Um, so we did, uh, and, uh, the slow song was oh my love by

John Lennon. Uh, and then the fast song was, um, wait, what's it actually called? Like, wake me up. by Wham. Oh, that's a great one. Jude a bug. I love that song. That's what it's called. It's called Wake Me Up, right? Yeah, wake me up before you go. I don't, of course, have one. I do know my parents. My parents was, may I have this stance for the rest of my life by whoever did that song. So now that you're talking about weddings, we have to talk about the dirty underbelly.

We're going to the dirty underbelly of this, which is a story in the New York Times where the New York Times loves to write about trends that are. Oh, wait, actually it was people mag. Never mind. I just like to be up in the New York Times. Anyway, so what it is is there is a new trend that they're profiling because they want it to happen, just like polyamory. And it's women throwing

wedding parties for themselves when they turn 40 when they are not actually getting married. So it's a fake wedding level blowout for turning 40 and this trend is, if not sweeping America, it's at least sweeping the pages of People

Magazine and sweeping your timeline on X to propagandize you. To prove you don't need a partner to celebrate yourself. Man. You know, so they're throwing like 40th birthday parties that are that are made to look like weddings? Is that what you're saying? Yes.

It's like a fake wedding. These women devoted themselves to like corporate ladder climbing. And so they may not have a partner, but they probably have enough money to throw a very extravagant, expensive party like a wedding. I can't even picture this. Can I see a video of this? Do we have?

Every day we have, we have, yes. I think we have, we have, we have video of this apparently. Can I please see this? Yes, spiritual soul rot on display. We actually have a lot, but I think, you know, people, people get on me for saying that we need, you know, I've never actually said that we need a new Franco, but man, you see stuff like this and it's like. This is overtly pagan. Yeah, all right. So we're told to start.

We have several clips. Overtly pagan. To let Tyler understand this, let's play clip five. I can't even picture this. This weekend, I'm throwing myself a wedding birthday. It's my own wedding, Sons husband. Had a manor in the British countryside for my 40th. You know, I never had a wedding, so I was like,

how do I celebrate the biggest way possible? A princess shut up! Here's the itinerary. Black pie first night. Everyone's wearing black, and then I will be in a white gown. People escape very saltburn. moody, red lights, think dripping candles, figs, grapes. Then we'll party in the living room like an aristocrat.

Next morning is Princess Diana-themed British countryside shooting day. Don't worry, we're just using clay. Very rough Lauren. Plus, it just rains all the time here. So finally the birthday night. Studio 54 vibe, glitter, sequins, just over the top, everything. Sweet dreams are made of the years. I really...

Wait, why did it end with like a gay dance part? at the end. I got, like, for all of her gay friends who show up out of, I guess. Wouldn't happen in a normal wedding. I really genuinely don't know what to make of that. Like, if you got invited to a party like that, do you go? No. No, I would like that.

I mean, listen. I mean, it just shows where we're at culturally. It just shows the, you know, the lack of, I mean, this, I think we all know what Charlie would say about this. You know, I mean, it just, it just shows where we're at as a society. And you, you, you. you would wish and that people have this fulfillment that is being unmet, this desire that's being unmet because of their own choices, because they eschewed family and marriage and child

rearing and yet they still want those feelings. And so they've created for themselves this false reality of it's like the participation trophy, right? like you didn't actually achieve or commit to a wedding which is supposed to be you know a union between two individuals in the sight of man and in the sight of god and instead you are just two individuals to be specific oh yeah yeah obviously yes but you know two souls is what i'm trying to say and the idea here is that it's like there's no unity there's no union at the part of this other than like you and yourself right like that's what this is you notice there's no like

There isn't even a boyfriend. There isn't even a stand-in for a husband here. There's no sign of God at all. It's all just a celebration of the self. Well, that headline from People magazine where it says, you don't need a partner to celebrate yourself. Yeah,

and it turns out there was a New York Times one. We had both. The New York Times one is a wedding party, no husband required. Yeah, that is a... So is it just this gal or is this a trend? It's like that movie. What's the housemaid, right?

where it's just, it's anti-marriage, it's anti-husband, it's all this like hyper-feminist, you know, Gaga that's just everywhere today. And, you know, it's like, you don't need a man. You could, like I said, you know, going back, where do we hear that? You don't need a man. Frozen. It was a Disney movie. It was a lesbian propaganda.

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I don't have to achieve this to still wear white and be the center of attention and everybody's there for me. It's really narcissistic, but it's in itself serving, but it's also just disrespectful to the institution of marriage. It's everyone gets a trophy type stuff. Well, it's sort of like, it's just anti-tradition. It's like, we feel so bad for you or for ourselves that we're just going to give ourselves the things that we feel like.

And again, it feels very similar to also like the Disney adult thing where it's like people like living out. Yeah, yeah, it does. That's exactly right. People like, like I don't know why that like this like triggered that for me, but it's like people. No, yeah, that's 100%. It's the same wavelength. Like like they didn't get to do it when they were kids or whatever. And so like now they're fulfilling out this like fantasy of like being a kid.

Because what is that right? That's the millennials with disposable income who haven't achieved those life wickets, those life benchmarks and milestones that you're supposed to hit by certain ages. So by that age, you typically do have like children and you are then starting to want to bring your kids to do family stuff. And yet you don't have that. So it's this infantilization, which of course Charlie also talked about the extended adolescence, where where people don't. leave it and so it's like we're going to infantilize ourselves and act like we're children and go to

Disney by ourselves we have a great so this so this 40th birthday party is very similar where it's like you're doing something right and it's this fantasy of something that you should have probably done at an earlier time period in your life but we've got we've got we've got a great and you're still omitting just like Disney like you don't have the kids with you you you're doing it it makes you feel good stroking something in your ego I I haven't seen this clip but I can tell it's going to be great. It's a broken generation. Let's do number eight. Okay, I'm about to walk down the aisle. And this moment is for every little girl and every 20-something and every 30-something that waited their whole lives to get married. And maybe it didn't work out. And they still wanted to have this

moment. So it's my 40th birthday tonight. And I decided to throw a wedding birthday in the British countryside, in a manner. It's this huge estate. It's straight out of downtown abbey. And I had this moment where I thought, I am the first woman in 300 years that has rented this house for herself and celebrated herself.

I'm going to object in general. One, probably not. Two, you just shouldn't do a party to celebrate yourself. I think in general, I think it's self-indul. I would say, even if, even if she was married, everything. I think it would be incredibly self-indulgent to just throw a party for yourself turning

40 or 50. I think ideally you'd have a spouse and they would organize it and throw it for you. Or it could be your friends would do it. There's ways to do it. But in general, you should not throw parties that are just, I am awesome. I just like, I miss like an ethic, a value system in which people just get old and they don't make it about themselves. Like old people acting old. Yeah. Like just do something. more conventional and it's so refreshing now when you just see like old people becoming adults and then they

think about the image we have of grannies you know loving grannies and you know still live on a farm they're making I was thinking about this thing about how that's all going to vanish when your 75 year old grandma has tattoos and like fake boobs and like social media posts that are still out there of her being a bad girl at 22

I was thinking about this the other day so when I was a kid when we were all kids think about your grandma they had like bobbed hair like some of them died them some of it was just gray and like those women that are now that age now they've got like long hair it's dyed they're they've got work done they're like trying to look as young as possible our grand our grannies like like literally just look like old old ladies and it's like that's like that's like the golden girls thing is like they were like in their 40s and they look like literally like just like they look like

this is that i'm really like i am noticing the golden girls are like literally in their late 40s and some of those those ladies they're like we thought they were like like that is that true yeah okay so okay the characters were in their 50s and 80s blanche was roughly 53 Dorothy and rose were 55 and sophia was 79 oh wow which one was sophia oh was sophia the like really really old one yeah yeah man it was like the mom but she wasn't that old but you know what i was thinking about with this whole thing is like how how offensive it also is to the women who don't do this right like they have enough self-respect that's like wait wait wait speaking of golden girls you have to

we have to say the great connection that so you know who do you know who the son of the creator of the golden girls is scott adams close actually it's not scott adam no it's like sam harris oh really okay interesting wait so wait i want to finish my thought i want to finish my thought of this though the women who who look at this and it actually i think this is part of the mental illness that makes women feel bad on social media so you have one woman throwing herself a birthday party that is meant to replicate a wedding. There's plenty of women out there that are unmarried for maybe it's not their own choice. Maybe they just, I mean, I know lots of people, good people.

Yeah, couldn't find the right guy. Couldn't find the right guy, whatever. I feel really bad for them. But that person's seeing another person do something like this. I feel like makes it worse for all those people. Like to me, it's like, and this is like, this is the same thing with the social media generation this is like the disney adult thing this is about like people who do the you know perfect perfection vacation thing that they put on social media even though you know that's probably not true

or the perfect house thing or whatever like do you remember do you remember hanksgiving remember we did that a while back was the hanksgiving that they all had together it was like thanksgiving oh yeah the same same thing but it's just like it just like to me it's It's like, I don't think it helps society in general, like, doing these things. And again, it's a free country, like, do whatever you want. But like, like, there's a bunch of women who follow this woman. She's probably got friends. She probably has a social media following.

That's part of the reason why she's doing this. And it's like, it's this whole, like, it's this whole trend. You see it with like, shout your abortion, right? Where there's actually shame over something and they're trying to reclaim something that makes them feel shameful to like, be like, I'm just going to buck the trend and screw the tradition. And, and I'm going to, I'm going to be loud and proud even. even in my shame. That's a perfect transition to our accident.

What if one of them does a like wedding level $80,000 party for their abortion? That's pretty sick. I bet it's happened actually. Because they, you got to understand like the human condition. We have we sin and therefore we have shame. And if you don't, if you're not a Christian, there's no, there's no mechanism to get rid of that shame. And so you try and invent human celebrations or institutions to remove that shame from yourself. So that's all this is, actually. It was interesting. I was having this back and forth.

Jack, you know Lisa Booth, right? She's, yeah, Fox News. She was kind of, she went on this whole thing about saying that the problem with the right is that we make marriage and family feel like obligatory. So if you are not that, you, you, you feel ashamed or you feel like you're out of the club. And if on the left, they demonize marriage and abortion. So they don't, she, her point was that there's a bunch of women that don't feel like they belong to either camp when it comes to this issue. And then, but, but like, I think that there's a lot of people that have kids that feel like by the liberal progressive society, they have to feel ashamed or they have to hide their joy or hide their kids or hide all the good things about their family because there's so many women

in culture that aren't experiencing this. And so I, it's just, I don't know what the answer is exactly, but to me, it's like, if we don't lift up the ideal, you're going to have a bunch of people like this 40-year-old crazy lady that goes flies over and spends a hundred thousand dollars on a fake wedding for herself because that's no that's exactly right and and it's like again i mean this i'll like defer to to to the man himself but ck used to talk about this a lot he said it's it's it's not about like forcing anyone to make any one decision or or another it's just talking about what is the greater societal good and we see through study after study that marriage, two-parent households, that with the mom and a dad are always the best outcomes for society.

And so if our government or our political movements are going to push for certain things, we should always push for the things that we know are the most beneficial pro-social things. And that is a general goal. I have a Catholic question for you. I have a Catholic question for you on that kind of same thought. does the Catholic Church have a strong position on surrogacy? They don't like it.

I mean, I can't imagine they're for it. I would have to check. No, it's not okay. Catholics don't even like, they don't like IVF either. Do they have a position? Yeah, Catholics are against IVF to begin with. So they would have a strong position on like a gay couple adopting a kid too. Oh, 100% against.

Because they're against. Well, they're against every level. Yeah, just double check. I didn't want to like speak out of turn. But yes, the Catholic Church strictly opposes all forms of surrogacy. viewing it as a grave violation of human dignity, the integrity of marriage, and the procreation process.

I feel the same. I get really weirded out with surrogacy and I can't like, and it's like one of those things where you're like, because it's like buying a child. Yeah, it's weird. There's something weird about like renting a womb. I just find it.

It's weird. I mean, with IVF, the biggest objection is that you basically make 10 human lives and throw nine of them away. A bunch of them. The church would still dislike it in 2024. The church would still dislike it.

it if you could just make one and because they don't like the means. What if you were like, hey, we're going to implant 10 embryos, fertilized embryos, and if you have 10, you have to keep all of 10. They still what if you commit as a good Catholic

to saying, I'm going to take all of them? It's less bad because you're not throwing lives away intentionally. They still don't like it. The church's position is quite trad where basically you should only have kids by like the proper natural method. The old school way. Yes. they're still okay with adoption, but, you know, I think part of the, the theory with that is that there's so much, isn't it just like the holiness of the system that God gave us and playing God with these things? It's kind of viewed as playing God.

Well, and it's also, so that's part of it too, but it's also about how the church has always positioned that the procreative act should take place within the confound. of marriage, that the point of marriage is procreation and children and that act of the bringing together of the mother and the father through marriage and through procreation. And so whenever you're, you know, abrogating that process somehow or, or, you know, sidestepping it or whatever it may be. So you're telling me, Jack, you could have a 40th birthday party pretend to get married and then have a kid without ever having sex. Wow. that is the liberal way that is the sex in the city way

before we own nothing before we abandon this topic I'm looking at the New York Times article and there's something very funny I see which they talk to some woman who does consulting for these wedding style 40th birthday parties oh so this is a trend it's not just her yes yes there's a consultant who does this and

she says the planning process is more streamlined than a wedding and such events generally cost just 10 to 30% of a typical wedding budget it. So hear me out. Here's an idea. You're planning to get married, but you tell them it's either a 40th birthday fake wedding or a divorce party. Get all the stuff for wedding related things, but you get it cheaper because you didn't say the W word that doubles the price of everything.

And then bam, oh, switcheroo. You have a clergyman there and you get married. You bring a guy? You bring a guy? Yeah. You bring a guy. Do you want to know what's weird? You want to know, I don't know why. this didn't make it to thought crime. What did you accidentally? Wait, wait, wait. No, like, can I, you know, funny? No, I was just going to say, it would be funny is, is what if you're having one of these, like, fake marriage parties, but you hire the guy, right? Who's, but it turns out the guys, like, actually ordained in the state that you're having the party in, and you're like, like, the fake marriage party. And you're like, wait a minute.

That sounds like a terrible 90s. I was going to say, it sounds like a rom-com. Sounds like, yeah. Now, like Jason Bateman in this. Like, it would get recently convoluted and for like some dumb reason they are required to also live together for a while. Okay, hold on. I have to take this. It's going to. Oh, you have something. I have a really important point.

I'm sure. And I'm sorry to offend all the women that are saying right now. But no man would ever do this. No, of course not. Oh, wait. A gay man would. Okay. Okay.

Well, no, no stream. It would be a different type of party. Yeah. Speaking of which, did you know this? But this is like, but that's also, it's like, it's like, like what's feeding the egos of women in America today? Feminism. It's the feminism.

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You really wanted to get into this. No, I mean, well, it kind of made me think about it when we started talking about gay couples doing adoption. Okay, so just to put this like in perspective, they believe in like unlimited Muslims, Unlimited Somali fraud pirate people Bathhouses And Bathhouses Like Minneapolis

And it's like George Floyd They really are our most Canadian city They are the most Canadian city In the country Ugh There's a lot going on Adult bathhouses were a component of nightlife Prior to the advent of the AIDS crisis

In the 1980s Which led to the passage of numerous ordinances Banning them Among virtually all U.S. urban areas Imagine that. Yeah. In 1988, Minneapolis passed an ordinance to ban bathhouses. There were three bathhouses that existed in the city,

Hennepin baths, locker room baths, and Big Daddy's Bathhouse. Big Daddy's Bathhouse. All of them closed prior to the band. Locker room baths was known as the 315 Health Club at the time of closure. Why were they banned? After the first positive HIV test in Minneapolis in 1982, concerned grew about the spread of the virus. So, um, wait, so, so let me, let me get this straight. So bathhouses were pretty much the only place you could go because it was so, it was, you, it was, you, it was, men just had sexual encounters at the bathhouse, but get, but overately pagan in those days was like, it was very taboo, like, by culture, cultural standards. Part of the reason why bathhouses existed was because it was so taboo within the community. So like, just like go, like, be gay in public. Well, this is, yeah.

I don't know. That's why they had those. Well, I think it's part of it. I mean, I think it's a, I think they also have them. Yeah, well, like men, met men. And then also they would have those parties and they would have sucks with them five minutes after meeting them. Sure. Yeah, of course. Yeah, it's all right.

Well, that's true. But that's also, like, pretty common in the gay community. But like, like, they just meet and hook up and it's a big hookah culture. But here's my question is because they have so many immigrants coming to Minneapolis, is that the reason why they're reintroducing bathhouses because it's so it's it's so taboo within these immigrant cultures to be gay that they need the bathhouses i don't know i think it's just they're going so far left and like HIV is not the fear that it once was right although you know then it's going to be uh monkey

pox yeah so just to just to make sure people get angry did you know that the a lot of doctors so do you guys know about antibiotic resistance yeah Like we're not supposed to just take antibiotics all the time. It's a really serious thing. Resistant to them and then we're going to get new superbugs. And that's why we have TB that resists it. Did you know that a lot of doctors will just kind of put gay men on antibiotics, just a regular dose of them?

Like it's, you know, taking a daily aspirin. Seriously? Yeah, because, you know, they're prone to getting a lot of diseases. And, you know, we wouldn't want them to get diseases. So we'll just chip away at our antibiotic resistance so they can keep going to clubs. Another thing, did you know that the federal government will find. blind, like, gay prostitute drug addicts and stuff who are at high risk of contracting HIV, and we'll give them free prep, which is the AIDS kind of HIV prophylactic keeps it from developing it to AIDS,

which costs many thousands of dollars a year to take. I think a few years ago it was like $35,000 a year or so, but it's probably less by now. Does it make it so you don't contract it? I think it makes it harder to contract it, but it also, even if you have it, it kind of keeps it. It makes it a manageable chronic condition instead of a death sentence. But they will just find people vulnerable to this, and the federal government will pay that many thousands of dollars to give it to them for free. The federal government is still doing this?

Yes. Wild. It's like that California law. It's like that California law where it's like no longer a crime or something that's downgraded if you knowingly spread HIV. There's so many, so many. So many analogies to things that happen of Laura of the Rings with that.

Ready set prep is a federal program that provides pre-exposure prophylaxis medication at no cost to individuals without prescription drug coverage. So these guys are just like manhors. Taking advantage. And they get paid by the federal government. Yes. Jeez, always.

Does President Trump know about this? Actually, he's like, he's like weirdly pro-gay. The government and the frogs. He's a New York state. guy. I love this article I was reading, by the way, it says adult bathhouses are community spaces, historically frequented by gay men, where people could also engage in sexual activity or relax after going out to the bars. Or relax. Do you guys have ever been to a bathhouse? Just chill with the bros. Thank God. I mean, I think is there like a difference, Jack?

In Eastern Europe. Was it in Eastern Europe? Bathhouse. Was it in Eastern Europe, Jack? Who is in Hungary? Yeah. Yeah. It's different though, right? I guess like Central Europe. So I've been a, I've been bath house in Budapest. Yeah, but isn't it different in the culture surrounding it is different, or is it the same? It depends. Some are gay stuff and some are. I mean, this is like, when you go to Budapest, like bathhouses and, you know, it's like, it's like a hot spring. Yeah.

It's like a hot spring thing. So like you go in and it's, you know, it's co-ed. So like I went with Tanya and it's, I don't know, it was kind of like going to like a community pool, but it was in like a. you know it's like a hot springs kind of deal so like they have that they have it Idaho as well they have like hot springs you can just go to the coolest one you know the phrase in Russian Jack that they say for the bathhouses no slochim padam

what is it it basically translates to like have an easy steam or have a nice steam okay it's getting weird there's a dog crime so you say that to people when they're there going to the bathhouse and you stay slowly and upon

I'm considered having a good Yeah The coolest thing Since he does mention it In Budapest they do have a giant bathhouse It's the Sessionia bathhouses

And it's like looks It's from the 1800s So it's this big palace You know Bell epoch architecture You should bring it Get a picture And

What's cool about it especially I went to Budapest In February So it was cold out But it is a Mineral Bath And so Is that the one that's like

The out Blake It has a big outdoor pool And so if it's cold. It's still open. It's still 105 degrees or whatever the temperature is of a hot spring. And it's just steaming like crazy the whole time

because it's cold out and just spraying it out everywhere. This looks like a resort in the Bahamas or something. It's more of like a again that that culture of Eastern Europe is it's more of like a public pool. Yeah, this is not, this doesn't seem It's more like public pools and like and it's almost like, it's almost like

a hot spring type. We have to transition even though this has been weird. We want to be Gellert. This has been weird, but we have to try something. This can be awful, so we apologize in advance, but we're going to try something new here because we want to bring you guys into the culture of the office, actually. And Blake often comes up with random, bizarre, obscene, would you rathers.

Oh, dear. He does. It's true. I don't even know what it is. I'm deeply concerned. I'm deeply concerned. All right. So would you rather,

would you rather, Blake? Give us some would you rather. You know, I have one of them just making up off the fly. Would you rather go to one of those newly opened Minneapolis bathhouses

and you don't have to do anything? You can just kind of sit there, but you have to sit there for the whole evening. Or go to one of these 40-year-old single-woman weddings. I'm going to go to the 40-year-old single wedding.

What if it's really, sad. What if she's like insanely unwell and desks? Going to the wedding. I'm going to the way. I like anything to avoid. There's probably free food at the wedding. So that is a good Yeah, that's a good. Blake's a weak spot. All right. All right. So yeah, that was that was that was a good point. That was not that good. That was a week one. So we actually had

there's kind of that there's that classic one people have asked that's like, would you rather have a gay son or like a kind of thought daughter? But I thought of a kind of, we developed that into a more interesting one, I think. Would you rather have a sort of loose daughter or a loser son? Like they're a big time loser. Don't have a job. Can't. Does my daughter grow out of it eventually?

We can't. We can't speak to that. I would say that's a loser behavior for both, by the way. 100% is. So would you rather? I would say, gosh, that is hard, actually. I would say probably the daughter because I'm going to take her to church and try and help her. she never gets better though

she starts she gets she starts influencing now there's a church she doesn't have a daughter she leads the people at church astray she has an affair with the pastor so he's going to pick the daughter because it's like no I would actually say

loser son I would actually say loser son because I feel like I feel like that'd be easier to fix than having a thought daughter it never gets better though Jack you just have to live with a loser son or no you didn't say that you didn't stipulate it never gets better I said I couldn't speak to that

Would you rather have a Canadian daughter Or a I don't know where I'm going with this after I just wanted to make fun of Canada I'm just thinking about the What was it? The WWI GGBB Oh yeah yeah yeah You know we can't worry about that one later

No so we got to split the chat One someone in the chat says they would take the loser's son Someone says I was the loser's son Okay so that's a good point towards getting better See you can get better but Tyler looked at me and goes, they never gets scared. All right.

Look, the loser's son, the fail son can be fixed. I mean, look at Tyler. Like, he's, he's come so far. Totally.

A related one. And this one I think is really interesting. Would you rather have your daughter marry a Muslim, but it's like a totally normal marriage. They have their kids in wedlock, all of that, but she is married to a Muslim man.

Or pump and dump trashy single mom, you know, three kids, three different dads. what your daughter is the yeah this is your daughter in both of them and one of them we don't even we don't even need to say three it could just be what it's like she's just she gets knocked up and abandoned by the dad baby dadies or even just one she gets knocked up and abandoned by the dad and she's a single mom or marries a guy and has kids normally but is a Muslim practicing Muslim yes yeah avid Muslim goes to mosque all of this one

oh man uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh Is she a good advantage? I'll say in this, in my case, because I feel like the gender doesn't matter on this one. You could say like son and then, you know, multiple women or, you know, Muslim girl. It definitely makes it worse if it's like a woman. I mean, it makes it worse, obviously. So wait, in this sense, are the single, are they all Christian, the single relationships or whatever? I would say

I would say if she's the single mom you can assume she is either yeah she's either Christian but not following the rule as well or maybe non-religious but the other she's she's converting to Islam and the oh she's converting to Islam oh then I'll do the single every time single all right or at least or would it make a difference

if she wasn't Muslim but he did raise the kids Muslim that's still single yeah I think I definitely got to go for that one and didn't you have a pirate I had a couple I had a couple I had a one Oh man, what was that? Oh, I guess

Is that, is that not? I can't remember what the Brian Gnome one was. It was a good one. Anyways, this is, I don't know if you guys want us to keep doing. Would you rather? I can do a weirder one. I can do a weirder one. No, would you rather is a good.

In fact, what we should do is we should open the would you rather's up to like the rumble rants. And so what we should do going forward is have people like when we start the, send your best would you rather. Yes. You know, send us your would you rather. and then in the last segment, we'll, you know, we'll do them. We've done a lot of musical themed ones. So I do want to do one on that front because we talked about this.

Would you rather... See how he does this? Would you rather get a new album from your all-time favorite band? And just for the hypothetical, it comes out, it's at their peak of their quality from your point of view. And it's a 10 out of 10 album. So it's new content. Yeah, so, yeah, it's new. So like, let's say your favorite band was Guns and Roses.

It comes out 1989, and it's 10 out of 10. and it's 12 new songs that are as good as any Guns and Rose songs ever. Or just get rid of your least favorite genre of music completely. So like rap disappears forever. I would definitely get rid of the worst genre. You would get rid of the worst genre. You don't need to listen to the worst genre. Yeah, but it's terrible for culture.

There's so many bad genres, though, that's like just getting rid of one doesn't really. Yeah, like you might get rid of rap and then we just get the, you know, it's all R&B everywhere or something. R&B is actually great. I'll take R&B over rap. R&B is. phenomenal. I would take rap over

any day of the week. No way. Yeah. Well, I'm thinking like gangster rap. I'm thinking like

thug culture. Drill rap. What if it was only like subgenre so you could not get rid of all rap but maybe only gangster rap or drill

rap or something. Canadian MMI 2 LGBTQI plus or whatever it is, daughter or AOC daughter. That's the same thing. That is the same thing.

A. A.C. daughter. It's not even hard. I mean, she's a congressman. woman. She's a Congresswoman. Yeah. So, I mean, it's not like, oh, you'd get over it if your

lib daughter became the president. I mean, that's, that is, you'd be like, oh, this is so great. I'm so proud of my daughter who joined Congress and ran for president to pursue evil. Dang. Ludacrishness, one. That is, it's a deeper question than you probably intended. Yeah, I don't, I don't know. Wait, actually, actually, you know, actually, you know, It would be funny. It would be funny to say, what about, like, what do you switch it up and you say, um, okay, this doesn't really make sense, but like what a conservative child who is not successful, but a liberal child who is successful at like liberal politics?

I'm going to go conservative child not successful. That kind of took me to like, I was actually right before you said that, I thought you were going to say this, was would you rather have. gay child who's conservative or a straight child who is like ultra ultra ultra lib how many yeah grandchildren do they give me they both give you the same amount wait we gay you said gay conservative no i was asking how many of the gay child who's ultra conservative or straight child who is ultra lib and they never change but i could get their grandkids i could convince the grandkids they both have grandkids no no i mean i'm saying i could even if you have a lib child you

You could get the grandkids if they're married and have kids and stuff like that. You could get them to be conservative. All their kids are exactly what they are. Ugh. Wait, so the gay guy has kids? They're gay and they're all gay. They're all gay. They're all gay.

I'll take the lib. And then the lib, the lib kids are all the super lique. Scott Pressler's done a lot of good things, you know. That's what I'm saying. Like, there's a lot of people who love like the gay conservatives. I don't know. I don't know. That's tricky.

This has been fun. Do you guys like it? Do you want us to keep doing it? That's the question. I can come up with infinity hypoes. So like there's something weird about Blake's autistic like, Hey. Like Dartmouth brain that he just like, this is what he does. Would you rather get every single quarter anywhere in the world that's put into a teenage mutant Ninja Turtles arcade game machine? Of which there are several. Or would you rather have the teenage mutant ninja turtles be real?

Real. Autism alert. Yeah, I feel like you don't have a soul if you don't want the turtles to be real. I want to be real. Fighting evildoers in New York City. Listen, what is it profit of man to gain the whole world but to lose the Ninja Turtles being real? Exactly. Yeah, a lot of people I know, they just pick the money. I love Ninja Turtles because they're the only real legitimate superheroes that aren't from a major company like comic wing that have survived in America. Oh, that's interesting. She hadn't even thought about that.

They're like the only ones that actually like are like celebrated and look. You understand the Ninja Turtles, like, Jack understands the Beatles. Oh, Ninja Turtles were my thing. Ninja Turtles were my thing. However, though, isn't that, weren't the turtles technically supposedly based off of Daredevil? Yeah, I know. Who cares? It was the same mutagen that gave Matt Murdoch his powers was also the accident that led to them, you know, converting into turtles.

Yeah, I mean, there were a parody. It started as a parody. So that would make sense. But listen, we got to wrap. Jack, this has been fun. You guys, has been fun. Jack, take us home. Ladies and gentlemen, go out there and commit more thought crime.

That was a nice long episode. Went to a lot of places with that one. That was a good time. That went all over the place. I feel like there's like clips from these things that are like far going to when did I say that? For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.