The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 133 — The Male Ick? Naming 100 Women?

Episode Date: June 27, 2026

The Thoughtcrime crew dives into the gripping cultural stories of the moment, including: -What behaviors from women generate a "male Ick"?-Is Citizen Vigilante a movie for our times? Is it a GOOD movi...e?-Can Russ successfully name 100 women?   Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:03 My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You've got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a turning point USA college chapter. Go start a turning point you would say high school chapter.
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Starting point is 00:01:37 some of us may be a little bit more remote than others. What's up guys in your little studio in your little state called Arizona that doesn't have a beach? Doesn't have one of these right here? Are you at one of those kind of beaches, you know, with all the teens running around? If it's
Starting point is 00:01:53 be, yeah, are you? Are you used? No. You're talking about beach crime. That's what makes me think. No, we don't, we don't, we don't, no, our beach crime is their the the problem youths are not allowed in yeah this these are ideological crimes yes of course but not like the mom-doney ideological crimes hey jack you look like you're having fun though and i don't i don't you don't look that much more tan though i got to be honest with you i'm not sure do you have pretty skin pretty tan out here i don't know it must be the lighting jack yeah you must
Starting point is 00:02:25 no yeah i'm like i got the sun like right over me as we're taping this but like i am you're not swarthy like like us mexican like like us mexican I'm looking like beat red. No, that's because I'm not Mexican like you. Yep. Oh, they got a new Mexico sound effect. Taco Taco Taco. Oh, that was the Taco Bell.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I was like, what is that? I'm quarter Mexican, but according to 23 and me, it's mostly Iberian. Oh, okay. All right, we're going to need to see this. We're going to need to release this. I don't even know how to log into it. Once I found out they're going to use it to, like, biohack me someday, I was pretty upset that my mom made me do it. But true story.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I'm mostly Iberian. if one person your family does it then they got you oh yeah my mom did it my brother did it my dad it we it was like early days early days of 23 and me yeah now they all have now they have the unalterable rights to all our genetic code thinking creatively enough at that point so i can't spell anyways what are we talking about what are we just what if we just what if we just what if we just what if we just what if we just do a chill stream you know we're not allowed to do that though, Jack. We have a job to do,
Starting point is 00:03:34 chill crime. We have thought crimes. Chill crime. We're not allowed to chill because our first topic, Jack. Our first topic is about the ick and everyone knows that women get the ick the most from men just chilling out and relaxing. It drives them absolutely unhinged. And so you decided to turn the tables, Jack. I did.
Starting point is 00:03:54 What did you say? What is a male ick? Yeah, so Jack asks. Just like listening to liberal women wine about. Well, no. So, I mean, that could be an example of one, right? So we, women came up with this thing called the ick recently, you know, a couple of years ago. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:11 And they said, oh, you know, this gives me the ick or this about this guy gives me the ick. And it's been this phrase, you know, that comes along. And so I wanted to say, okay, you know, I've been listening to this for years now. And it's time for the fellas to have a turn, have a run, if you will, a run. run for the ring or run for the trophy. And I said, gentlemen, what about women gives you the male ick? What produces the ick in men? I got one.
Starting point is 00:04:42 That women do behavior or physical accoutrements, if you will. And let me just say, this thing went viral, viral, literally just one tweet and popped off. I love, by the way, how, could I just say real quick before we get into it, that none of the guys required any explanation on my behalf of about like what exactly I was talking about they were all just like they immediately just popped in and started answering all right who wants to go first I feel like I would be irresponsible going first so I've got one when they have a penis okay I mean that's that goes to that's egg okay but have you encountered that in real life actually no okay this is a true story this didn't happen to me it was my roommate at the time
Starting point is 00:05:30 I was living in California, and we went out to a bar in Santa Monica. And we're all hanging out. And actually, my wife was with me. So I was, I was married at this point. So it was post- roommate, but he was my roommate one time. And anyways, so we go to this bar and he comes to me, he looks at me directly, goes, that woman right there is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen. Oh, no. And this is where it gets really weird.
Starting point is 00:05:57 It was a tranny just to get ahead of it. And it turns out that the tranny was engaged to a dude, and they were both Canadian. And he thought that the transgeny person was the most beautiful woman he'd ever seen. It was a very female-looking man at that point. I don't know how long they were on hormone therapy. But once you knew, once you knew, you were like, oh, okay, I see it. Okay, but then if you could see it. It was dark, admittedly.
Starting point is 00:06:28 And that was the most beautiful woman he'd ever seen. I remember looking at him going like, bro. And he was just, he went ghost white. He went ghost white. And, uh, yeah, I, I'm not going to mention. Is there something that gives you the ick from something that doesn't have a Y chromosome? Okay. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:46 What gives me the ick actually is, uh, women shouting their abortions. That's not good. That's definitely, that's definitely pretty good. That's pretty good. All right. Russ. You, you've recently. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:57 My ick was definitely. in my past relationship. Anytime she lost her vape, she started, like, freaking out. And it's just, so at that point, I was just like, anybody who's, like, who was just, like, connected to the fruity pacifier, that was like, it was a, it was a.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Vapes in general kind of give me the ick with women. Yeah. Yeah, vaps. Any, anything, I'll throw out, I mean, I'll throw out a couple that came out in my sort of impromptu poll. So, So big one with septum piercing, nose piercings in general, that came out a lot. That's a big one.
Starting point is 00:07:33 They're saying they're saying women with like women have just gotten like gone overboard with tattoos was a big one. But one thread or I should say a common theme that I encountered was and this wasn't trans necessarily, but more of like a learned behavior was sort of the theme of like women acting like men. women acting masculine. So cursing, binge drinking, dropping their voices to a lower register when they speak, vocal fry. All of these different things
Starting point is 00:08:08 that women have been doing lately. A higher register gives me a dick too, actually. You know what I mean? And it just, it gives the ick. It's like, why are they? Why are female athletes, you know, and other people and they, when they talk, you know, they just really,
Starting point is 00:08:24 you know, let's really put it out there and put it out along the field you know and it's like why are you doing that like why are you talking like that i don't know many women like that i'm not sure i've encountered that was very interesting uh blake you have dated yeah i have dated definitely definitely i would endorse all the septum piercing ones that one's always really bothered me um i always just think of the the intrusive thought i always have with septum piercing is i imagine it getting caught on something and then you're hooked on it like that and that's it really Rips the roof out.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I think about that and it really bothers me And I can't get that visual out of my head. So it like always viscerally upsets me to see that. I don't even like the ones on the side that those are really common now. Like they'll get the really thin ring on the side of their nose. I really don't care for those either. And those are really common now. Calf tattoos.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I'm in general. We've had the tattoo debate. We've had the tattoo debate before. You don't have to get specific. No, but like specifically. I don't say what I haven't heard yet. Usually the women that get those have the really like muscular calves. One I will say for sure.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Ooh, too many muscles. Too many muscles. Like too muscular. Like if they're obviously inebriated. That's what I'm saying. Dude, they've been drinking. Or not even pukey,
Starting point is 00:09:40 just like when they're really out of it. Like it's actually, it's not pleasant to see. I totally. In general, that's unpleasant, but it actually goes to that masculine behavior. When they swear too much.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Swearing too much. Right. Being nasty to someone I see mentioning here being nasty to waitstaff. That's something that's really off-putting. That's big. Something weird that I've encountered. Most of these are not stuff that I've actually encountered dating, but one that I have is where they'll like brag about doing manipulative or Machiavellian behavior. I've encountered this and I didn't understand what it was trying to communicate because it kind of just sent the message like I did something evil.
Starting point is 00:10:23 got away with it and I could not understand why that would be appealing and you think that's just a female trait? I don't know that it's a female trait but it's a trait that a woman did that gave me the I can a big way. That's that's just that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's pretty I think men, that's pretty baseline that men are equally. A Machiavelliian behavior?
Starting point is 00:10:42 No, women are much better at that sort of thing, I think. Women, no, women are better at, that's totally a woman thing. Men, men, men are confrontational in terms of their, you know, their, their, their interaction, and disagreements, men are confrontational, whereas women who lack the physical strength of men become less confrontational and they become more subversive. Right. So subversion, manipulation, like these are all, you know, using, there's even a term
Starting point is 00:11:08 for it, feminine wilds, right? These are, these are the female strategies for, you know, for success or destroying their enemies. You know, that's, it's kind of like the old adage, you know, when they say like, you know, if women were president we'd have no wars and i'm like you're right because they would have like nuke the entire planet and there would be no wars to fight women don't like you there there were studies on that where um because we have a good we've a good case study in the sense of the of the united kingdom where obviously there's been many kings and queens that goes back hundreds of years over a thousand years and
Starting point is 00:11:47 um when i forget the exact number but uh presented but it did actually come come out, and I wouldn't say it was a Cambridge study, something like that, where when England had a queen, they were more predisposed to go to war than when they had a king. This is actually borne out if you look at British history. I could believe that. Queens more likely to go to war than kings. A kind of creepier one. You know, we've covered like FGM, female genital mutilation, which they do in fundamentalist
Starting point is 00:12:16 societies. And they've actually studied basically how enthusiastic people are about that. And it's like old women doing it to younger women who are like the most aggressive in like mutilating them and like messing them up. Okay. So all that gives the ick. Caboose. Yeah, Caboos. It was the same.
Starting point is 00:12:37 It was the same. Now I've definitely got the ick. Yeah, my ick is sorority girls because they get sort of that mob mentality where it's they just don't think rationally when they're together. That's basically based on my experience from working on a college campus. so just girls when they're in groups girls in groups Kibuice is endorsing Islamic principles they should be in their
Starting point is 00:13:00 hijab in their home not allowed to congregate in groups no no I did not say that so I saw a really good one there was a great interaction lower down the thread and I had to retweet it because somebody just
Starting point is 00:13:15 one follower of mine that said constantly dragging any conversation to be about them to which someone to which a woman replied and said woman here a man using the phrase gives you the ick gives me the ick and he just wrote case in point case and point we're not talking about you for five seconds well that gives me the it hold on again i just want to say i just want to say you know i do think there is kind of like a theme right now with like woman bashing within the conservative movement and it's probably not okay some of it is very much deserved but i want to bring the the sexes back together i want i want us to find harmony uh you know in god's design i don't want us to always be this
Starting point is 00:14:05 gender war thing if you jack you've experienced this too i'm sure like with like turning point students they all like the men hate the women and the women hate the men and they're just like at each other's throats it's not good it's not good how do we fix this there's the way you fix it is ultimately, ultimately, the enemy is, the enemy here is modern feminism. The enemy is actually modern feminism, which is completely not conservative. It is not trad. It is not Lindy. It is this idea that pushes women into male roles and completely distorts the traditional
Starting point is 00:14:43 gender roles of society. And a lot of the stuff that we talk about is like this. And a lot of the issues that we have described here, even on this program for years at this point, all come back from this. And we are surrounded and we are inundated with feminist propaganda from any time you walk into a library as a little kid to when you go to school, to when you go to Hollywood. So you're just constantly surrounded by, you know, women can do anything. Women are, you know, yes she can and all of this stuff. Whereas young men, and as someone who has two boys, that, you know, you don't see any of these types of programs for, oh, we're going to help young boys get into STEM or we're going to help young boys have a track up. So, you know, we do have to acknowledge, I think, that we live in a society that is governed very much by girl boss, longhouse, feminism.
Starting point is 00:15:39 And until we deal with that and be able to wrestle that down into a place where women are told, once again, that actually that's not good for you and it's not going to give you the outcomes that you want. You're going to continue to see these conflicts, but also go to men and say, look, just because you're upset with women and just because you're upset with women the way they are, you also have to understand that doesn't mean that we should go and bash women and, you know, trash them and all the rest of it. It just means that you have to be good men as well or else, you know, you're just going to have the separation of the sexes and you're going to have it turn into a situation that we, call the end of society.
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Starting point is 00:17:42 Really fascinating guy. His wife too, actually does a lot of stuff. What's that? his wife Rachel Wilson has been like yeah no exactly no they're like they're like the power couple anti-feminist power couple they both have done Rogan and stuff like that so anyways uh he was you know he was kind of like grilling down on like what i thought uh about different things it was it was interesting i was doing the same to him but you know basically what it comes down to is probably the most important issue is fertility and making sure americans can like achieve the american dream affordability all this stuff but like fertility like we got to get fertility rates up like Hungary's tried this everyone's trying to everybody's trying to I mean do you know South Korea is under one now
Starting point is 00:18:22 they're like under 0.9 they're like under 0.8 they're like at 0.7 or so it's really bad is actually under North Korea North Korea has a higher birth rate than South Korea which is nuts anyways basically the whole darn thing the whole citizen or you know civilizational project comes down
Starting point is 00:18:39 to like can we create enough babies but Blake has been white pilling me on this no racial kind of at all, but it actually is kind of like a white pill, right? Like white Americans, our fertility rates are bouncing back. What's interesting is when you look at who's holding together, what's actually crashing is kind of the third world is crashing because they're getting basically fried by smartphones and TikTok. But what's holding up is kind of who we most want to have kids, like married couples who are upper middle class. They're like ideologically more pro.
Starting point is 00:19:15 having kids, they're telling their kids to get married and to have kids. And like, they're continuing to do so. And some of them, it's even rising. And so I'm kind of, my optimistic long-term take is basically Midwest nationalism that we're just going to have people like my siblings who are all married off, all having kids now. And like, they're going to have kids and they're going to have, you know, my cousins are all having kids. I think they're the future of America is going to be these like middle class just pumping out four or five kids. Let's go. Well, I was just hanging out in Colorado with four couples and over the last weekend and there was 12 kids and a 13th on the way pretty dang good you know we're not I mean it was just like everybody's having a lot of kids that's
Starting point is 00:19:56 exactly it was absolute pandemonia okay so jack you know how our women's leadership summit always like draws controversy you know like every year no never women's leadership never it was like I remember charlie talked about this he's like we've been doing this event for like nine 10 years and like nobody ever it was never like a big deal. Everybody's like, I'm so glad you're getting the women together. And then all of a sudden, it got like controversial. Like something about women and leadership in the same sentence. It was like, it just like triggered online dudes. I'm, I'm going to play a clip that CNN did about the women's leadership summit. And let's, I want to hear from all the dudes here, including you, caboose. Did these women pass the test? Did they pass the test? The man test. Sot 16. feminism is the biggest lie we have ever been sold as women. But the attendees have had a little more nuance in their analysis. Some have even said you can have it all.
Starting point is 00:20:52 From what I see, like society has co-opted the word feminism, which should just be the equality of the sexes, which I really do believe in, to be something of pushing the other sex down, which I really don't believe in. I run three companies and have a nonprofit and adopted children. So I feel like the messages to me were that women, can do it all. And how do you see that as different from feminism? Good question. That is a great question. I feel like feminism is the pursuit of I need nobody and I don't need a man. I don't need others. I feel like the left is so focused on feminism equals abortion and that's like not at
Starting point is 00:21:31 all what feminism should be for. It should just be like how can we empower women to fulfill what they feel like their calling is. A lot of the left say that they don't need men. We do. We do. Did they pass? I was pretty good. That was pretty good, right? Because ultimately, like Brigitte Bardot, right? When, you know, the great French actress, rest in peace, that when she was asked once,
Starting point is 00:21:57 are you a feminist? She replied, no, because I like men too much. And that really is at the heart of it. She had one child and hated it and was estranged from her own child. And that would definitely give me bigot. There's another clip here. I'm not scared here to say she's a great mother or something.
Starting point is 00:22:11 What I'm saying is she understood that at the root of feminism is the hatred of men. And that that's that all of this like equality of the sexes and empowerment stuff that they talk about is actually just window dressing in the same way that like most social justice programs are in that it's actually a thinly veiled patina on resentment and envy. Whereas like, yeah, you can have empowered women and you can have successful women. but without the misandry. Let's try one more clip. It goes on. I want to see, do the turning point women at Women's Leadership Summit pass the man test? SOT 17.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Speaker Savannah Stone is a married 21-year-old who's built an audience advocating for traditional gender roles in a sometimes provocative way. Submission gets a bad rep because it's seen in slavery for whatever reason. but submission is a trust in its teamwork it means the woman serves the husband and the husband lays down his life for the wife because women are controlled by their emotions and men are controlled by logic she goes viral a lot on ticot for talking about women submitting to their husbands being submissive what do you think of that i mean that's what the bible calls us to do so that's what i think is true the words sound kind of crazy and a little controversial but i mean i believe what the bible says and i think what's true and I think she said it great in there. Did these women pass the Ix test?
Starting point is 00:23:42 Did CNN pass the X-E-Test? They made it sound like a crime, like a true crime document. I know. Like, did you hear the music in the background? It was like, do-da-dun-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-. Like trying to make it sound. Or like, like, who wants to be a millionaire? And it's like, is that your final ending?
Starting point is 00:23:56 It's like, is that your final answer? And they're like, yeah, the Bible says submit, so we should submit. I thought it was pretty dang good. Thought it was pretty dang good. I was proud of these women. They did, they did well. Do we have another one? Oh wow, we have another.
Starting point is 00:24:09 I don't know if we need to play it or not, but it's up to you guys. Are people liking this? Caboose. Should we play another one? Gofer, I'd say these women pass the egg test just by being at a turning point USA event. Oh, good point. I love that. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Sod 18 last one, Jeff. Certainly past the egg tech. No quack. Noick. Noick. Obviously, if we didn't think women should be able to vote, we wouldn't be standing here trying to work in politics. Why do you think it's good interaction right now? Honestly, I would say from a liberal perspective of we don't mean men has made men so angry.
Starting point is 00:24:42 It's harder for men to get a girlfriend. It's hard for them to get married. Women don't want to get married now. And I think that's why a conservative movement has put so much back on the word feminism is because they feel like women are, quote, unquote, ruining everything, which we're not. That's not true. So a feminist might say, hey, you guys are dealing with these really angry young men online, like in cells, the Andrew Tates, the whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:04 You guys need feminists right now to do. defend you and to defend your dignity as a person. What would you say to that? I would say it's all about how we approach it, though. I think by screw me back at them isn't going to help. Oh my gosh, knocked it out of the park. That last answer right there. She's trying to, she's trying to, she's getting, she's loading up everything.
Starting point is 00:25:24 She's like, what about Andrew Tate? What about this? We're about the internet. What about insels? What other? And she just goes like, well, why if we're just nasty back, then isn't that just going to make the situation worse? Amazing.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Yeah. I genuinely, like, I was floored by this. And I mean, the music is makes it sound so ominous. I'll let me tell you something. Look at these crazy women at this conservative. Wait, by the way, one insight that I have, though, is we should all point out that this as, as it's a turning point event, you have to imagine that this is a room full of women that have watched hours upon hours of Charlie Kirk on campus. And there was no one better ever at turning around a gotcha question than Charlie Kirk. Kirk. And so now you're seeing the Charlie effect that when you try gotcha questions on
Starting point is 00:26:11 turning point kids don't work. It don't work. It's kind of like racism when they would hurl racism. Yeah, yeah. Everyone's just like, yeah, they'll say like, that's racist. Doesn't work anymore. Yeah, we had to like build up antibodies. I'm telling you, you could track the political discourse in the Overton window in this country just based on like what antibodies have we developed recently to the liberal malaise and the accusations they hurled it. And it's funny because you'll see other ones fade. So we've got very good, we've gotten, very good at suppressing the, you know, racism label. But now we need antibodies, I think, against old-fashioned socialism.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Yeah. That now everyone's like, oh, what if we team up about the socialists against wokeness? No, don't do it. It is funny. We have kind of come full circle. You brought up Charlie, Jack, and it's like, how did a turning point start? It was socialism sucks. And now we got to like, we got to deal with it again.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Got to remind everyone. And by the way, who are the most likely to be socialist? Crazy women with septimates. Pearson. Young women were always the most enthusiastic members of the party. Yep. And it's not working out so well for New York. They're going to drive away all the productive people.
Starting point is 00:27:19 If you are a business, if you are an entrepreneurial person right now and you just happen to be coming up, let's say, in Queens, you're coming up through the ranks. You're like, I got this great idea. You're not going to do it in New York if you can help yourself. You're going to get the hell out. You're going to go to Florida or whatever. I don't know. You'd go somewhere.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Go like this, this happens in California all the time, by the way. It's just like people have these businesses. They might grow them a little bit. But once they get to any size that they're making any money and they're paying any kind of taxes, they'll move to Arizona, Texas. Anyways, that's kind of not our topic. We have another female topic. We have, we have multiple women topics.
Starting point is 00:27:55 So we could talk about artificial wounds or we could talk about 100 women. I mean, we did make you take the test. 100 women. We're making us take the test right now. Faw says 100 women. 100 women. All right. This is a fun challenge we've made everyone do over the past couple of days,
Starting point is 00:28:10 and Russ is doing it right now. It was not a challenge. This was stupid. This is an amazing challenge. It was great. There was a challenge. Someone said online, basically, like, they're daring everyone. Can you name 100 real women, living or historical?
Starting point is 00:28:25 And then some hero made a literal app you can go to. If you search like 100 women game, you'll probably find it. It was so hard. It's stressing me out. My palms are sweaty. You're at, how far are you? We're at 28 minutes and 50 seconds on Russ. 41 out of 100.
Starting point is 00:28:41 How many minutes? I got 28 minutes. Who have you been naming here? I started it as this, as we started the podcast. It took me. Where does it take me? 18 minutes? I'm trying.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I don't know why I'm blanking on that. Let's bring up the different results here. And I're also sending it to caboose. He's got to start taking it. But do we have, let's see, Andrew's list in here. I've got to look at yours. course. So the whole premise of this is that it's easier to name 100 men than 100 women, which is a...
Starting point is 00:29:11 Now, hold on, hold on. Now, now, remember one of the rules was that it... It yes, it has to be real women, but it also has to be, like, notable women. And I believe the rubric that they used was they have a Wikipedia page. So, right there's a pretty reasonable standard. There's a lot of Wikipedia pages. Andrew, you took 18 minutes and 10 seconds. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:32 So it's not like... It's not like your... you're naming just like you can't just name women you know right like we don't my mom they have to be notable women right so like actresses yeah has women of history you know has a wikipedia page kind of women i'm actually like i'm actually good with mine i just so i started off with sarah palin woppy goldberg Hillary clinton jasmine jockett i c and then i just i got so stuck that eventually i just started doing all the conservative women I could think of. That's a fair way to do it.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Yeah, I did. Elise Stefonic, Helen Andrews, Ann Cruz, Ann Coulter, Caroline Levitt, Anna Polina Luna, Marjorie, Lauren Bobert, Dana Perino, Dana Laughanelette, Phyllis, Schlaffley, Martha McCallum. I mean, I just, I think I hit them all, basically. No, please, continue. Keep going. Oh,
Starting point is 00:30:18 you're still working. I didn't have that. I didn't have that. Who do you have here? Evang, Eva, Lily. I don't know who that is. Courtney Cox. Zendaya. Yeah, I got Laura Bush. Lynn Cheney.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Just one name. Jeannie Karana. Okay, whatever. Chloe Cole. I got Erica Kirk at number 11. I got her number 11. Just after Tulsi and Joan of Arc. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I'm looking at mine. I did mine in about seven minutes. I did the Supreme Court justices. Like I did all the females on the Supreme Court. But then I forgot. Atlantic Hagan, Son and Sona Sotomayor. Yeah. Tony Brown Jackson.
Starting point is 00:30:55 You start doing this and you literally space like, who's the woman on the. Supreme Court. Yeah. Trump pick. Like, you just, you totally forget.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I did mine in about seven minutes. My first woman was Caitlin Jenner, which I'm pretty proud of. They accept Caitlin Jenner as a woman. And then 100% organically, I'm not making this up. You can't do that. My 99th and 100th.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I was like, okay, going through history, I had a bunch of historical ones. And I was like, World War II women and Frank. And then 100 was Eva Braun, which was Hitler's life.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Oh, gosh. Oh, gosh. My hundredth was Kim Reynolds. Oh, gosh. I had, but yeah, you'd go, I would go like,
Starting point is 00:31:28 Okay, first lady, so it was just you could see him here. Abigail Adams, Laura Bush, Barbara Bush, Melania Trump, Nancy Reagan, Pat Nixon. You did George in like seven minutes, though. Yeah. And I would just go through a bunch of topics. I would do athletes. So I have like Mia Hamm, Hope Solo, Brandy Chastain.
Starting point is 00:31:41 She's the one who made that shootout goal and took her jersey off. I was seven. I was seven. I was seven something. I had all six of Henry the Eighth's wives. Catherine of Aragon and Berlin, Anne of Cleves, Jane Seymour, Catherine Howard. Yeah, but did you get Dolly Park?
Starting point is 00:31:56 I didn't. I actually got. I got Dolly Madison, but not Dolly Parton, which is pretty funny. I got Nikki Minaj and Cardi B. They accept Saints, by the way. So you can just be like St. Lucy, St. Agatha, St. Mary, Mary Magdalene, Salomey. Like, biblical women is a good way to go.
Starting point is 00:32:12 I didn't think of Saints. Saints would have been great. Yeah, tons of saints. What actresses did you get? Let me see here. I think I had Nicole Kidman. I got her. I had Natalie Portman, Merrill Streep, Nicole Kidman, Beyonce, Ella Langley. And then I started, oh, he got Sandra Bullock.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Angelina Jolie, Jennifer Lawrence I hope all of you have Erica Kirk, she's accepted She was number 11 for me She was 63 for me I got to the politics once a bit later So I am insane enough that after Caitlin Jenner which was funny
Starting point is 00:32:43 I literally went historical So I thought who's the most ancient woman I can think of So I had Hatshepsuit Who was the first female Pharaoh of Egypt And then I did Cleopatra Alliance defending freedom knows that freedom belongs to those
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Starting point is 00:34:19 So my hundreds was Melania. I didn't do like actresses. I stuck with more like politics. So I was doing like a bunch of like those you know how like in the EU there's a bunch of like You know You know So yeah I did ursula von der Leiden I did Kayakalas
Starting point is 00:34:37 I did Sondamaner Did you get Lus Trice? I don't know why What was your most obscure? What was your most obscure name? Most obscure I wish they gave us that name
Starting point is 00:34:51 I did like I mean I have a few like like Diane Feinstein, Madeline Albright. I think my most obscure eyeballing this list, I think my most obscure one has to be Pulcheria, who was a virgin empress of the Roman Empire in the 400s. See, I was doing like Masey
Starting point is 00:35:09 Herono and like K. Ivey and I was just going through like governors and senators and stuff. I got all three Bronte sisters. That's a good one. That's a good one. Three Pete, if you know all of them. Charlotte Bronte. If I was thinking about it, Emily Bronte did Wuthering Heights.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And then you got to have Anne Bronte. who did, I'm sure something really nice if you're into that sort of thing. Blake, do you know the, do you know Charlie Soong and the Soonings sisters? I know the Thune sisters. I don't, I couldn't remember their names off the top of my head.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Yeah, yeah. So it's like one is married to Sun Yatsin, one was married to Shankai Shek. I, okay, I did Carly Fiorina. Suck on that. Carly Fiorina. Wow. All righty.
Starting point is 00:35:47 I don't know why it popped into my head. I had, uh, I had Madahari, the only famous female spy in history. It took Mada Harri. Wasn't Mata Hari her? code name? Yeah, they take if it's their Wikipedia name, which I think she's there as Monta-Hari. So it's whatever the Wikipedia name is.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Okay. What about Usha Vance? I didn't get Ushahvance. I got Usha. I didn't put Ushahvance. I got Ousha. I didn't put that. I did later did a bonus list just to see if I could do. My first name was Caitlin Jenner. What was your first name, Jack? Erica.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Oh, suck up. I did Sarah Palin for some reason. Why Sarah Palin? I don't know. Sarah Palin was yours. Because when I was like for some reason when I thought like okay notable women who have a Wikipedia and I was just like okay Erica like because I was I was starting it with like I'm like a concentric circles guy like I start with people that I know. So like well I know her and then because then I went to the cabinet right. I had like I had like Pam Bondi even though she's not technically in the cabinet right now. It's Holsey, etc. Like I went with Caroline Levitt like I went with people who are like in that concentric circle of like people I friends with people I work with people I know from like politics. and then I just move my way out from there. See, that's what I really like. That's your impulse, and I think that's what a lot of people would do.
Starting point is 00:37:00 You went to, like, heavily in conservative media, and then I'm like, I must go back to, I must go back to 5,000 BC and work a way forwards and think of who comes to mind. So I had Egyptians, then I had Romans, then I had Saints, then I jumped to First Ladies, then I jumped to Henry the 8th's lives. Saints is a great idea.
Starting point is 00:37:18 I wonder if you could almost hit, I wonder how many you could get with Just Saints. Would you have to write the word, you could easily probably hit 100? but I got about 15 and then I did from number 65 to 100 to all conservative women Janine Piroe Joni Ernst Alveda King Megan McCain Kaylee McInanatee Mary Miller Katrina Pearson What? Oh sorry no I'm just thinking of Saints now oh man I did it took I did a second list Where my first one was actually Charlotte Corday who was a right wing assassin in revolutionary France
Starting point is 00:37:52 You're just so obscure yeah I go through it's and then the last two I got because they both have their own pages, Malia Obama and Sasha Obama. Malia. Whatever. Malia. I should have done like, I should have done like more communist women. I did Kamala Harris. I did get common. Like Madam Mao,
Starting point is 00:38:08 Jiang Qing, and then like Ulrich Meinhoff and like from the Mindhoff Bader group and just like gone down the list. I will know what everyone, by the way, is that he is at 37 minutes and you have 64 names. So you're remembering about two women a minute.
Starting point is 00:38:25 He's just writing down what we're saying. Wait, And trying to remember how to spell. Did you do the mail version, Jack? Did you do the mail version? You do it to spell. You do it. Yeah, you have to spell right, which is annoying.
Starting point is 00:38:37 I did the mail version. That was pretty forgiving. The mail version I could just do, it was literally as fast as I could type and it took me a little under six minutes. I did. No, like, there were a couple where like I missed like one, like I got an A instead of an E, like I got the vowel mixed up and they wouldn't take it. I just had to re-spell Caroline Levitt like four different times.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Yeah, I found this one was pretty generous. Like I, like, I misspelled. I did, like, Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother. And, like, I misspelled Mother and it still gave it to me. I did the male version of 15 minutes. Could you just do, like, Queen Victoria 1, Queen Victoria 2, Queen Victoria 3? You can little cheat. So I did notice someone I knew did it.
Starting point is 00:39:09 And they just, you know, there's actually many Cleopatra's in ancient Egypt. So you could do, like, eight Cleopatra in a row. And I felt that would be a little long sports. Yeah, because wasn't the Cleopatra that ended up with Mark Antony as like Cleopatra the eighth? Yeah, yeah. She's a late one because it's the end of the dynasty. Or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:23 That all had that stupid name. Angela's like, I did 30 female wrestlers. You can totally do that for the 100 men, by the way. You can literally just go, well, there were 17 louis in France. Louis 1, 2, 3, 4. There's 47 presidents, well, 46. Yeah, but they at least have different names. They're not just Louis and a Roman numeral like a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, fair enough. You could have done a second, Louis, third, and fours. All of you should look up the name 100 women game, and if you send a screenshot to freedom at charliecirk.com, I will look at them at least. I don't know if we'll ever look at this again, but I'll look at them. No, is it harder to name famous notable women than it is famous notable men? Is that the patriarchy? Is that systemic oppression?
Starting point is 00:39:59 Or is that just the way the cookie crumbles? I don't see it as, just speaking for myself, like I don't see there being any difference between the naming men or naming women. I think I think you will pretty quickly discover, at least if you're a guy. I mean, maybe for women it's different. And I'd be interested. I wonder, like, could Daisy name 100 men before she could name 100 women, for example? because Daisy did fill it out, and she had a lot of authors and actresses and singers that I did. Now, can women? Can women do this? Oh.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Genuinely, as soon as we started doing this, I was like, this does not suit my name. It does not suit my brain. My brain is. It's a fun challenge. It's a fun challenge. Everyone should take it. You can get a screenshot of your results. There's like a link to click it, although Jack didn't. So we can't look at us full list. Shame, Jack. All right. No, I got mad because I put my wife in and it wouldn't take Tanya Posobic. and I got mad, so I shut it down. And then I didn't realize that we were supposed to screenshot.
Starting point is 00:40:55 So I really want to get to this next topic, Jack, because you just interviewed the director of this. And that is, of course, Yeah. Citizen Vigilera movie on the planet. So, I mean, as far as how good the movie is, Jack says it doesn't matter. We've got to tell people what it is if they're out of the loop on this.
Starting point is 00:41:12 We should play the trailer. Okay, all right. So I have a take on this where, like, I would say for what it was going for, It was perfect. That's a bold take. Wait, what's the trailer? I believe clip number two is the trailer.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Let's show. The truth is this. You are all being used. The vigilante citizen is delivering a brand of justice that some believe the authorities have felt to provide. Targeting both criminals and those in power accused of allowing crime to flourish unchecked. It's been a lot said about me,
Starting point is 00:41:54 so I thought you should hear it directly. from me. I'm here to help you take that control back. The state, court, police. See, you think that they've failed you, but they haven't. Now, they only exist to control you. Do you want justice? Let's get some fresh blood. You walk down the street and you get stabbed or robbed.
Starting point is 00:42:27 You need more guys like this. what does your country do nothing our current system is failing to protect our citizens he's like the real deal he's playing with us what if everything they ever taught me it's utter nonsense we can change history
Starting point is 00:43:00 okay okay oh yeah so Blake give the premise well wait wait wait before we review before we review we should explain that like what this is just for folks, if you haven't heard anything yet. That's what I was about to do, Jack.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Oh, sorry, sorry, I thought you're doing the review. Go ahead. No, no, the premise. So the premise of this film is, it's basically, it's set in Europe. Uve-Bull's German, although someone says, we need this guy in Germany, so it might be set in a different country.
Starting point is 00:43:33 It's Croatia. Croatia, okay, it's Croatia explicitly. But it's filmed in such a way that, like, it kind of doesn't matter. It's a European every place, sort of. Like, they have their monies in euros, all of that. But anyway, the idea. we know Europe has had these grooming
Starting point is 00:43:46 gangs, they have random migrant stabbing attacks, they have these migrants housed in hotels, they have a real migrant crisis, a migrant crime crisis, and the premise of this movie is that Army Hammer is citizen vigilante, he's a guy who he is identifying
Starting point is 00:44:02 some of these migrant criminals who've been in grooming gangs or have done other crimes and he is being a vigilante, he is getting revenge on them, taking justice into his own hands, and also not just the criminals themselves, but judges who are doing it.
Starting point is 00:44:18 And it is now, it's so controversial that it's, for all intents and purposes, banned in Germany. They refuse to give it a rating. It can't be released in theaters. You could watch it on your home computer. But so by the way, I went to show it. I went and
Starting point is 00:44:33 which is quite the way crazy to say illegal to possess, which is actually a thing in Germany. That I went and so I interviewed the director this week on human events. And during that interview, I actually went and just pulled up like, okay, like, let's pull up a random movie theater in Germany and see which films are being shown, Uve-Bull.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And it was like obsession, which, of course, we talked about last week, which is incredibly violent. The Odyssey, which again is a war movie, like all war movies are very, very violent. Django Unchained was doing some kind of remake or not remake, like a re-release, you know, a replay of that, re-showing and which again one of the most violent films ever made which is something to be said for the fact that it's quentin tarrantino and all of his movies are famously ultra-violent and so you can imagine just all of those films perfectly fine to be shown in germany and of course by the way the punisher is also available on disney plus germany right now which is literally a vigilante film about a guy who kills criminals all right so here i think is one of the reasons it's getting band in Germany. This is a pretty viral clip from the film.
Starting point is 00:45:48 This is when Army Hammer who has been canceled himself they call him a cannibal. I'm told that that's reliably untrue. He was just a... Just talk. He was... Locker room talk. He was... He was a famous, rich Hollywood actor that
Starting point is 00:46:05 enjoyed women. Let's just be honest. Locker room talk. Yeah, anyways. I'm not here to defend Army Hammer, but he is the lead here. So let's play this clip. SOT 6. So I guess you're wondering why I'm here. Are here because of my son, because of the court. The court free him.
Starting point is 00:46:29 And it's the court from your country. Of course. Because your son and his friends had to rape that 14-year-old girl. So traumatized from their childhood that they couldn't keep their dicks in their pants. He's young. I don't know nothing. Huh. Is that why you did it, Yusuf?
Starting point is 00:46:48 I'm sorry. I'm sorry we did that. We thought she wanted it. Now she lives every single day afraid of what you and your friends might do since you were acquitted. It was very good work by your attorney, by the way, painting them as the victim. What was it? Traumatic integration. We're really getting mental help now and support.
Starting point is 00:47:12 We will be able to be. Better in the future, I promise that. It's the right answer. The only problem is that on your social media, since the event, I have not seen any regret or empathy. In fact, I think you said that she deserved to be raped. What I mean is that they dress wrong and just make boys horny with their mini skirts.
Starting point is 00:47:39 They show their legs and breasts. You wrote that she deserved it. I will delete it. Are these the values you're teaching your children? I teach him the values from Koran and these values from our family. Well, if these are your values, that women in America and Europe deserve to be raped because of a dress code, why did you come here? You know that we have several war in our country and we have a dangerous life. That's why we are here.
Starting point is 00:48:15 And I think you know that. what I think. I don't think it was the good ones that got out of your country. I think it was the bad ones. And I think you brought with you your archaic value system and your commitment
Starting point is 00:48:31 to religion over democracy and over anything else, including the rule of law. And how does that scene end, Jack? They do, they get better. As he said, he's like, you'll get better. They get better? They are all made better.
Starting point is 00:48:47 They're all one happy family. So I think in that scene, right, they lure. He goes, he goes full vigilante. Yeah, he goes, they, they, they, he was luring that family and then some of the other friends that took part in. No, no, it's the other, it's the other rapists. The other rapists. Yeah, the other rapists. It lures them in there and then.
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Starting point is 00:50:11 that opportunity is just a phone call or click away. call 833850229 or click on the preborn banner at charliekirk.com today that's 833 830229 or click on the preborn banner at charliekirk.com today. You know, watching it back, I'm like, wow, he really went. And that's what it takes to, I mean, that's why the movie's going viral right now because it's like going to the Quran. They go into like, you sent the bad ones. I mean, like this is. It speaks to a, a, a, a. primal it. And I guess this is now where Jack and I debate it because I think, have all of us seen the movie at this point? Yeah. So all of us have watched the movie, Jack, possibly at three times speed. And I did watch it at three times speed. As much as I'd love to like it, this is Uve-Bull, who famously makes bad movies. Most of the movie's not very good. That's probably the best scene in the movie right there. Yeah. The last 30s is literally the best part of it. It's like a B-movie action, you know.
Starting point is 00:51:15 ride on the seedier pants, um, kind of thriller. It's not meant to be like war in peace, right? It's not a Tolstoy. It's literally like, we're going to go in. We're going to throw some stuff at you that comes straight from the headlines. And by the way, he told me that in his interview that we did that these crimes, um, they're not just similar to certain crimes that you've seen. Obviously this, this gang rape.
Starting point is 00:51:41 He's referring to actual crimes and basing it on. actual crimes that have happened across Europe. So he brought up the mass rape of a 15-year-old in Hamburg that in, and in that instance, the judge let everyone off. They actually did not face jail time. And Ted said, oh, well, they were victims too, victims of society because they were not they were not allowed to fully assimilate and therefore they were lashing out at a society that would not assimilate them. He brought up Arenasarutska. He brought up a number of things that have happened in the U.S. and Europe that just literally straight from the headlines that we talk about every day. And he said, let me put that all into a video because I feel like, and he was totally
Starting point is 00:52:25 right in saying this, that there's so many people out there that if you're not a news junkie like all of us, if you're not doing this every day, if you're not focused on it, you may not even know that all of this is going on. So an incredible way to present that and the most effective way to present that, of course, is through a story, through a film. I found it legitimately jarring to watch. I have many of the same... It's a gory movie. I have many of the same critiques.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's not a movie for kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess, so the bigger picture, of course, is this is a film that presents vigilanteism as either a solution or at least an appealing way to go about things. And we understand that. Death Wish was popular for a reason as well. So I guess what would stand out to? me is if we're going to have a viral movie that's presenting vigilanteism as a
Starting point is 00:53:17 understandable response to what's going on with migration, I guess I wish the person was more sympathetic because the way the character Hammers playing is basically kind of a psychopath. Like he actually, he himself murders random people in the film, which I thought was very strange. He does merit, he does deal with the judges too. Not just the judges, but But like, while he's, there's a scene where he's driving with a judge and he's kind of saying, like, most people, they just, you know, they're, their sheep who follow the rules no matter what. And so he drives into the wrong side of the road and makes someone else swerve off the road and crash and their car explodes. Like, that person's probably dead because they wanted to follow the rules. So he just killed a random innocent person as a flex.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Yeah, it's like an anarchist. It's almost a nihilistic film in some ways. Let's go ahead and play one more clip. Well, maybe the character is, but I mean, I'll just say having talked to him, you know, know, he, he wasn't, I didn't get the sense that he was advocating for vigilantism. That's not something that he said to me. It was just more that he was thinking, what would the type of person be like if they were to become a citizen vigilante?
Starting point is 00:54:29 And the opening scene is of a, of a migrant, stabbing a mother in front of her young son. And it's sort of left unspoken. I didn't actually ask him, but it sort of left unspoken as to whether or not. that was the origin story of the main character. And it could sort of be read both ways. He does sort of talk about how his mother had been killed and his father sent him off to boarding school in America. And so it's, I didn't take it as advocating for vigilantism, just more of like a vehicle for these types of issues to be talked about in public. except for the fact that part of the film was literally that they shot was they shot scenes of people on social media being like this guy is so cool so that does read as it's it's promoting advocating for vigilantism which again if the if the director wasn't quote unquote advocating for vigilantism his art was sure as
Starting point is 00:55:32 advocating for vigilantism. That should be fair. We should play Sop 5. This is him going after the judges. Judge Reinhold. Who are you? I'm here from the chief inspector's office. We have new information that's come to light.
Starting point is 00:55:56 It's going to be very suspicious when that turns up in your blood, isn't it? Let's hope they don't run a toxicology report on your body. Who knows? Maybe you have a bit of a tolerance for heroin. It seemed to like heroin dealers anyway. How many of them have you let back onto the street? The laws are meant to protect the victims, right? It's not the perpetrators.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Maybe that's when you lost your North Star. When you started using the laws to help people, hurt people. You know, it's not just the perpetrators. You cause collateral damage, you judge. It's people like you, letting people get away with rape and murder. excusing their behavior, letting people get away with rape and murder. Six boys raped a 14-year-old girl. I saw your interview in front of the courthouse.
Starting point is 00:57:04 I saw you say that these boys just had an adjustment issue, that they didn't know how to fit into society. What you don't understand is the society that you think they don't fit into. is falling apart and dying. And you are the cancer that is killing it. Our politics failed to integrate teenage migrants into our society. I also didn't give them the help to function by our rules and our laws. The gang rape was in a way a cry for help and structure.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Not only the young girl is the victim. They are also victims. You really believe that? Not only the victim, pretenders are getting in trauma with the voice. It doesn't help the young girl if they're getting locked up now. And getting their normal life for a long time denied. That's all, gentlemen. That was you after letting a gang of rapists free.
Starting point is 00:58:17 It is crazy. You know, Sarah Rogers has a bunch of these, like, crazy stories. Oh, yeah. She has them all memorized, them all, just the insane, like, actual true stories. If you think that's, like, not actually. Is she happening in Europe? It's actually happening. I mean,
Starting point is 00:58:30 she's all based on true. Our friend, she lives in New York City, and they'll have cases where a mugging is happening. Mugging, someone sees a mugging, and they just think, do I want to intrude on this where I would have to basically, like, if it's, for example, if it's a black person, mugging a white person, do I want to come in
Starting point is 00:58:47 and like be the person who is fighting this person? We know how they can, if there's a video of it, spirals out of control. And yeah, Daniel Penny, perfect example. I mean, he was vindicated, and yet he had to go through the heroin experience of you've got to count on 12 people you had the state of new york try to destroy your life because you the person that you were choking was the wrong color i hate to say it so this is this is a european story citizen vigilante
Starting point is 00:59:14 but we should throw this graph up this is the foreign born number and share of people living in the united states and what's really troubling about this is the number got really high as a percentage of the total population like 1910, 1920, and then it dropped down in between 1940 and 1970, down to 4.7% of the population. When we hit our bicentennial, that was about as, at least four in America had ever been. And then, if you see the graph, we are at our highest percentage than at any time since 19, it's since 1850 to 2025. We're at almost 16% foreign born. And I bet that number is No one never voted for.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Never voted for it. Nope. Just. No, and they say that in the film, actually, but, you know, nobody, these people didn't vote for this. And we should mention, by the way, you know, speaking about authors, the directors in 10 here, that he does say at the end,
Starting point is 01:00:12 and the very first thing he said to me, he said, I made this film for the victims. I made this film. And it says at the end, this film is dedicated to the victims of rape and murder that have been let down by the legal system. And he specifically said, that this is about them, this is about their experiences.
Starting point is 01:00:32 This is about, he pointed out in that, in that case in Hamburg, which, you know, similar to the movie, as it shows that that girl still lived in the same neighborhood as her rapists. And then when they were let out of jail, that they were basically just sent back to the same neighborhood. So she still has to live with them right around the corner every single day. And, you know, I, again, I still don't think it reads as advocacy. I think it's more just like an exploration of like a what if scenario. Kind of like Joker was a what if scenario. It's not really a what if scenario. It's literally happening.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Well, actually, I think the what if scenarios in terms of the vigilantism. That's a worthwhile question. Let's suppose one of these grooming gangs got like a vigilante went and they actually like killed three members of a confirmed grooming gang. Chasing the song over here. How do we think people would respond to what do we think would happen?
Starting point is 01:01:26 In America? Well, it hasn't happened in America. Well, let's say in Britain There were... You mean like a migrant gang? Yeah, like, I am Genuinely, I'm surprised that some parent hasn't...
Starting point is 01:01:38 Maybe they have, I don't know. But I don't know of a story up the top of my head of some dad that took matters into his own hands. I mean, there is a famous story in the U.S. I think Jack might remember the name, but a guy whose son was like abducted, kind of abducted by a man. He shot him in the airport. Yeah, he shot him in the airport.
Starting point is 01:01:52 He was convicted, but he got a very light sentence. Gary Pachet? Gary have a lot she. Yeah, so he, he, his son was abducted by a karate instructor who was like, oh, you know, he had like wormed his way into the family and it was a family that I believe was just, you know, I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to get in all the details, but like he was a trusted member of their like circle was taking the son to a karate tournament in California. They had lived in Louisiana and basically just abducted him, obsconded with the son by the time they found. him. He had dyed the boy's hair. It spent like, I want to say like a week.
Starting point is 01:02:33 And they did find him. They brought his son back. But when they were bringing the perpetrator back, the karate instructor, which is a young guy. I think he was like in his 30s. That the father went around all throughout town and kind of like was able to find out just like going to bars
Starting point is 01:02:50 and talking to local cops what the specific logistics would be, like what flight he was on, like when it was going to land and all of this. And he wore like a stupid like costume, like his, his, uh, his, uh, actually, uh, that was not a costume. I, I've, I found out because I followed this on on Twitter, um, that he actually said, like, no, my dad just dresses like that. Like my dad just always dressed like that. Uh, wow. It, it looked like he was trying to like, you know, go in high and plain sight. Yeah. Yeah. And so it goes in, and they have on video, which just goes, pop. And they're like,
Starting point is 01:03:26 Why? And he just, he waits for him to walk by and he just walks up with a snubbedoze revolver and just gives him one of the head, run it right to the temple. And it's on film. And that's it. That's it. But like, my thought is. And what was great, oh, by the way, the reaction to it was, they got him, they got him,
Starting point is 01:03:48 they gave, it was like temporary insanity. And basically, I think one of the prosecutors later went on, this is back in the 80s, but one of the prosecutors went on to say that we don't think there's a jury anywhere in Louisiana that would convict him. He was sentenced to, he was originally charged second degree of murder, took a plea deal of no contest to manslaughter,
Starting point is 01:04:09 was given a seven years suspended sentence, five years probation, 300 hours of community service. That's pretty light. And I think of other things, have you ever heard of the in broad daylight killing? This was in rural Missouri, like northwest Missouri.
Starting point is 01:04:25 of the century, by the way. Father of the century. And this was a guy who was like a local menace. Like he kind of would do a lot of petty crime in the area. He was a bit of a sex predator. He kind of, I guess we would call it grooming today. Like he had a wife who he basically started a relationship when she was 14 or something. Terrorized her family.
Starting point is 01:04:42 When they tried to get her back, he would mess up their house and he like assaulted people. But could never get put away long term. This was a soft on crime era. And finally, locals in the community in broad daylight. This is a small town in Missouri. So people went up to his car. and they just shot him to death. Dozens of likely eyewitnesses
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Starting point is 01:05:58 in court, I believe. Yeah, she shot her rapist, I believe. Or no, her child's rapist. Oh, yes. I think he killed her child, yes. And the video of it's like haunting. She just like goes up there and just, you can tell she's like probably never even shot a weapon before she like tried probably practiced just for this moment.
Starting point is 01:06:15 But she's, you know, the hands like all over the place. It just shoots him like five times. Yeah, Marian, I think it's Marianne Bachmeier is, yes. So she killed Klaus Gavrovsky, who was on trial for the rape and murder of her daughter, Anna. And she was convicted of manslaughter and unlawful possession of a firearm and was sentenced to six years released on probation after serving three. So he's given her a medal. She'd have given her a medal. Yeah. In that instance, it wasn't like a migrant, but like there's that crazy video that goes viral like every so often on X or whatever
Starting point is 01:06:51 where it's like this migrant dude who comes in with like, I think it looked like a French scene where the mom is trying to protect the daughter. Have you seen that video? the mom's trying to protect the daughter and the guy's like trying to grab them out of the house but then he he gets scared off by some noise down the street and it's caught on a ring camera oh oh yeah yeah no i know what you're talking about yeah yeah yeah in france yeah yeah that that video is like exactly what uver ball is talking about he just grabs it's from like a doorstep yes we should yeah he just walks up and grabs her and tries to like those videos in fact do you you guys remember yeah this is the story this is the story kind of peak woke Biden era i want to say
Starting point is 01:07:28 early 21 in South Carolina, the army guy who was caught on video and he was kind of confronting the black guy in the neighborhood. He like slaps the phone out of his hand. I remember that. Yeah. He got prosecuted for this. He got like a minor assault charge. And the full background of that was that this was guy was like, he seemed mentally unwell and he was basically a local menace. And he had among other things he'd been caught like picking up a baby and trying to walk away with it and got caught in this case. And he was just constantly causing problems. Nobody would arrest him. Nobody would get him out of the neighborhood. People had complained to this army guy, he confronts this guy,
Starting point is 01:08:01 becomes a national villain. It's denounced by the Biden administration. They let a mob gather outside his home. He has to flee his home because there's a local mob there. He actually got convicted of assault, and I'll never forget that he said he said, I regret absolutely nothing about what I did. Faze.
Starting point is 01:08:17 And so I do wonder if this were to happen. I feel like they would, I feel like if it happened in America today, if we had an equivalent version of Marianne Bachmeyer or, or Gary Plechay and maybe it was a migrant who injured or killed or raped their kid or whatever I think they would crack down it harder
Starting point is 01:08:36 I think that the government would certainly a European government would say we need to send a message for this and it would be very I don't want to bring this about but it would be interesting to see how that would unfold I think it would depend on the state like if we do it in like California
Starting point is 01:08:51 New York versus like Louisiana Utah. But, you know, Rusty your point about Mangione, like, in that case where he takes like left-wing vigilantism, which is just literally assassination,
Starting point is 01:09:08 that he, that if you look at what they're doing on the state level and the federal level with those judges, they've been like, they already took the death penalty off the table. They've been like dropping charges left and right in the Maggione case. I mean, it's like this blue jurisdiction.
Starting point is 01:09:24 It's exactly what this movie is all about that you can see it happening right now. We're a guy who clearly committed a political assassination. He just walks up and shoots a guy in the back on the street, right? This is obvious murder. Obby's done for political purposes. And yet the judges in both of the trials, the federal level and the state level, are like jumping through hoops to try to get Mangione off.
Starting point is 01:09:49 I have that video from Bordeaux, uh, 22 B-year-old. This just like freaks me out watching it. Good. So just some migrant goes, tries to grab, oh, look it, mother and daughter. What in the flipping world? Like, yep, look at this. Second Amendment, man. Yeah, this is.
Starting point is 01:10:12 And I think that bus scared him off. Look at that. He tries to just break down the door and grabs them both, pulls them out. Ladies and gentlemen, situational awareness. It's why. We need it. Everybody needs it. You need robust law enforcement because you're either going to have the tyranny of criminals.
Starting point is 01:10:29 you're going to, and like overall we don't like, the reason vigilanteism is bad is you get, overall, is you get, sometimes innocent people are killed, sometimes the punishment, sometimes the punishment would vastly exceed the crime. But by the way, then you get the rise of left-wing vigilanteism.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Yeah, and you get left-wing vigilanteism. You get, I mean, you get blood feuds. Those are bad. I mean, there's a lot of vigilanceism in, for example, in Chicago, where one gang is in a war with another gang. Those are all effectively, you know, you kill someone over a beef and they kill one of your friends, over the same beef goes back and forth forever.
Starting point is 01:11:01 That is why you need law enforcement. That's why you need firm law enforcement. By the way, you do a crime. You will go to jail for life. You will be executed for this. By the way, you know what it says here? The African migrant who attempted child kidnapping was released on bail after two years. Probably right back into France.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Well, and this is also why not only do you need robust policing and police. But you also need, you know, to be able to carry a firearm. You need to be able to protect yourself. Like, don't work. Like, yes, absolutely hope that the cops and police and all of that is going to be there. But situational awareness and protect yourself. Like, everybody, everybody needs it. That's why it's in the Bill of Rights.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Well, and yeah, and I want to be super clear that none of us are advocating. We don't want to live in a world where things like this happen. We don't want to get to this point. We don't want to have people saying, oh, I want to take up arms to defend my family and my neighborhood, right? That's why we have always called for one tier of justice, not the two tier. Kirstarmer, of course, by the way, just thrown out of office. You know, he would have been tossed out by his party if he hadn't resigned over a number
Starting point is 01:12:24 of things, but a lot of which included migrant violence and migrant sexual assault that he was directly involved with looking the other way on that there's no question that played a huge role in his ouster as the like the government of england just fell over this and yet the movie is banned in germany so no we don't want this two-tier policing we want serious policing want people to go away and and by the way you know it's like the whole uh you know is is you know people were talking about prison abolition too recently they're saying like oh what the right wing case for prison abolition i'm like i can make a right wing case for prison abolition but you're not going to like it.
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Starting point is 01:14:00 Well, check this out. So this was Elon Musk retweeting or quote tweeting naive Buckele. And you see the, we're talking about policing. I thought of this. There you go. It's a very simple concept, really. And it's basically a graph that shows the murder rate in El Salvador, right? It hits a peak in about 2015.
Starting point is 01:14:19 And then it just drops like a rock. And you see the incarceration rate, which is the blue line, shoot through the roof. And that's really the, I mean, the truth is it's like, yeah, it's good to be armed, it's good to be vigilant, it's good to be, you know, head on a swivel. But if you would just lock up the bad guys, there's like a very small percentage of the population causes most of the damage. Especially for random mayhem violence on innocent people. Like, you know, most murders, it's often pointed out, it's a criminal kills another criminal. And that's bad and we don't like it. But it's not as likely to make someone feel terror when they go outside. But they really don't
Starting point is 01:14:56 like it. They don't love the disorder of they see shoplifters, they see vandalism. Like Arunizurutska. Yeah, they're so random. It was so horrific because of how random it was. Anyone who's like stabbing a random person? This is why the UK though is so it's such a terrible case because you
Starting point is 01:15:12 mentioned Kier Starmor Jack. Kier Starmor apparently in his previous role before he was, uh, prime minister. I figured what the name of the role was. He sent 13,000 letters, you know, strongly worded letters instead of prosecution, for these Pakistani rape gangs.
Starting point is 01:15:29 So yeah, it's really offensive when random criminals, you know, commit random acts of violence. It's really offensive when you refuse to prosecute them because they're migrants. That's what's absolutely infuriating about that case. And yeah, we get it here in the States too, but less under Trump, thankfully. But it's just, yeah, we make our point in multiple. Consequences. Like, not that I want to go much longer, but there is a really cool. scene that we should mention as well where the, you know, it's definitely the director speaking
Starting point is 01:16:01 through the character, as, you know, most of the scenes are where he's monologuing. But there's a scene where he also confronts a couple of fare jumpers on the bus, too, which I really liked. And he's like explaining to them the concept that if you don't pay for your bus ticket, if you're, you're running around stealing, then that's going to make the cost of everything go up. And then eventually, maybe we won't have those things anymore. And he's like, all of society will fall apart if we don't abide by these basic rules. I feel like that's way too
Starting point is 01:16:32 much abstract thinking for the typical fair jumper. I thought you were going to say the weird scene, as I call it, the autistic landlord scene. I really don't want to say more. If you guys watch the movie, you know exactly where I thought it was great that he was a landlord. There's like a whole subplot
Starting point is 01:16:48 kind of thing there. And they, and yeah, some of his tenants are prostitutes. So again, like they don't portray this guy as like some, you know, white knight. He's very much not. No, it wasn't the original title, Dark Night, but then they made him take it off because they didn't want to get sued by Warner Brothers or something?
Starting point is 01:17:06 Yeah, I think so. It's a little bit too close to Batman. Yeah. And, like, there's a lot of Batman, you know, elements here because he, like, inherited a lot of wealth from his father as well. And that, that, that, he, you know, he's a building owner. And at one point, he's, you know, he's in one of the rooms with a prostitute and is utilizing her services. and then immediately afterwards
Starting point is 01:17:28 he's like, is that mold? Is that mold on the wall? It's just like... Jack, how would you know you watched it at 3X? Yeah, yeah, hold on. Jack, you got to... Jack, you got to watch... Look, I can understand a little bit of like, you know,
Starting point is 01:17:44 got to book it. If you got to go at 1.25 speed or something, 1.5. But three times speed, I might as well just read the screenplay at that point. To be fair. My mind is so powerful. it's three times faster than the average normie out there.
Starting point is 01:17:58 So me watching something at 3x is like you guys watching something at 1x. I will say for this movie specifically, I'll give it to a lot of 3x because it was. I literally went and cut a 38 minute version of this film that cuts out like a lot of the middle and it's much better. There's a lot of slow monologuing. There's a lot of like extended sequence of just people. walking or like for example when the SWAT team is coming they're just like let's have 45 seconds of them running around i think i actually think people should support the film actually buy it and if you whatever speech you want to watch it as well yeah yeah so you can get it on amazon right and get like
Starting point is 01:18:41 pay for it and you know we should reemphasize there's uh there's like signed copies that you can get so i i i went uh i went and i bought like i bought five of like the special packages or whatever so You get like Blu-ray signed lobby cards and a couple of other things. I'm not sure exactly like what you get in the package. And I was thinking about maybe doing like a giveaway, like you show me that you paid for it. And like I'll send some like, you know, listeners, a, you know, the set or something like that. Just just to do what I could to like, you know, support the cause. You see something like that.
Starting point is 01:19:17 We talk about economic warfare all the time. Something like this comes out. And, you know, we had Sound of Freedom a couple years ago. That did really, really well in the U.S. And I think this would do well as well. Good. Jack, you want to take us home? Ladies and gentlemen, as always, go out there and commit more thought crime.
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