The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 134 — Batman Goes Shopping? He-Man and the Masters of the Culture War?
Episode Date: July 4, 2026For the 4th of July the Thoughtcrime gang confronts the nation’s most important topics, including: -Do girls just want to take Batman shopping? -Will the new He-Man movie save Western civ...ilization? -Why do Europeans hate air conditioning? Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Another thought crime Thursday is upon us. What's up, gang? What's up? What's up?
What's up? What's up? It's up, Jack. Crimes are flitting through my mind all the time.
All right. We got, we got Russ, we got Andrew, we got Blake, we got Poso here. I've got my,
my Philadelphia background.
Also with my Wawa-2-50 shirt,
look at this.
We got Philly Skyline.
We got Wawa-2-50.
Just pick this up.
It's going to be a hot commodity.
I'm going to pass this on to my children at one point.
You know what's interesting?
They steal it from me probably a week from now.
You know what's interesting, Jack,
is that we've got the Buckees fan,
you know, all this Europeans coming over,
discovering Buckees.
We've got Bass Pro Shops.
I have seen zero.
foreign love for Wawa.
What's that about?
Are they playing any games in Philadelphia?
They did, actually.
They just had a game in Philadelphia last week.
Shoot, what was it?
I think it was like Brazil or something.
And I think it's because there weren't any European teams that were playing in Philadelphia, though.
So Freddie came across Pennsylvania, but he was like going across the northern tier to get to New York.
So he wasn't anywhere in like what I referred to as the Wawa Republic.
if you will, which begins in actually in North Jersey and then goes all the way down to about Richmond,
although Philadelphia is, of course, the capital.
Yeah, I think in general, even if the Europeans haven't discovered Wawa,
the fact that you've got your 250 Wawa shirt, it does get me thinking about the share of American patriotic pride
that is being generated by high-quality gas stations at this point, because Buckees is a thing that we're genuinely celebrating and bragging about as Europeans and
counter it. And I know a lot of people were getting a kick. The Japanese got here and they went to
7-Eleven in America. And they were thinking, oh, it's so amazing to have this authentic product of
Japan here in America, the 7-Eleven. And then we've got that, we've got the cult following of
Kirkland, the Costco brand. Oh, is that? Are they discovering Kirkland now? Which is just like,
Kirkland is the whole thing now. Yeah, which is also really funny. Is that one of those things where
we just think of Costco as normal decent products and then there's probably Europeans or Chinese people who get Kirkland exported to their country and they charge it out a three times markup.
They used to do that with Papp's blue ribbon.
I just, I literally just pulled this up to fact check and I found I did find a TikTok that is that that loves the Wawa.
I just found it.
Oh, there you go.
You got one, Jack.
You got one.
Although that's got decent engagement, admittedly.
No, it does.
It does.
This, of course, because we're not really big on, on the, dude, this one on TikTok, I just,
it's 500,000 views.
Yeah, no, it's not bad.
They love the TikTok.
But wait, hold on.
The whole point of this is that you get Philly cheese steak at a Wawa.
Do you agree with, I mean, I don't know.
Do you agree with that, Jack?
Yeah.
So that's, that's kind of like, look, you know, I appreciate it, but, but, but here, so
this is a French guy who went, I guess, to, to Philadelphia, who,
said they were recommended
he got a little mixed up
he got a little mixed up right
he's French you know we're not going to hold to him
but he said that he wanted
the cheese steak and then someone said
mentioned Wawa so he got mixed up
and thought that he meant that he should get a
cheese steak at Wawa which
I mean guys like let's let's be
serious you could do a whole lot better
that's like getting sushi at the gas station
at that point don't even
interrupt that kind of is let him
believe he got the famous Sand
He can tell us kids.
He seemed very happy.
I got the Wawa cheese steak.
And also, he seemed, this is going to be a controversial take of mine.
Cheese steaks are a basic enough sandwich.
I don't think it matters too much where you get one.
Dude, I got, actually, no, no, I actually agree that, I think, like, for a lot of, like,
the overweight foodies out there, they do this whole, like, oh, you've got to go to what a
North Philly that's in like a hole in the wall that's served out of a bucket, but that's the
perfect one.
And they're like, no, no, that's the red bucket.
You have to go to South Philly for the one out of the blue bucket.
And you're like, if you're getting an authentic Philly cheesecake anywhere in the city or
like South Jersey or there's a lot of Philly crossover, you're going to be fine.
You're going to be absolutely fine.
They're all good.
What you don't want to get is something where people call it a Philly cheese steak and it's
not, it's just very obviously not a filly cheese steak where they like layer like road.
I've seen people say that they're going to give me a filthy cheese steak and I get something
that has like roast beef on it. And I'm like, what is this? Like this is not a cheese steak in any way,
shape, or form. So it's like as long as you actually understand what you're supposed to be making,
you're fine. You know, speaking, I think this is a total out of left field, but it's a thought
crime that just came to me because you said that. I have a real thought crime for you that is very
culinary. When it comes to roast beef, I prefer fast food roast beef, like Arby's style roast beef,
over what you'd likely get at a nice restaurant with like the thicker pieces of beef.
I actually really like the weird thin slices of beef that are standard and fast food sandwiches,
so much so that when I was most recently in South Dakota for a blast from the past,
I went to the Hardees that I went to as a kid and I got one of them. And it was delicious.
You know what? There you go.
It's way better than restaurant roast.
Jack, I have a, I have a, I have a bigger question for the group here.
It's off the topic list.
But say Mexico won the World Cup, do you think that they would riot and burn down our cities in celebration?
You mean the Mexicans that live here illegally?
And legally.
The Moroccans in the Netherlands, I think some of them were like third generation.
And they're still rioting.
They're still burning down.
that country.
All of California would be engulfed.
Mexico shall not win the World Cup.
I don't think have they done that?
Do Mexicans really like riot or Hispanic areas riot over sports stuff?
No, they know.
They're not animals.
I don't know.
I think they'll be fine.
It will be interesting.
I think Mexico is underrated here because this game that they're playing today
and if they win it, their next one.
They're both played in Mexico City.
and Mexico City is higher up than Denver.
It's like 7,500 feet in the air.
That is, you have like one third less oxygen in every breath than you would normally.
I just think a lot of these players, they're going to go to Mexico City,
and they're going to be super tired, and then Mexico will slip one goal past them and get the win.
It's Ecuador that's playing against Mexico.
True.
So it's, they're pretty high.
Ecuador is also high, but their players are not from the high part of Ecuador.
All the players for Ecuador are from, this is the same.
crazy. I've been reading Steve Saylor posts about this.
Almost all are
a lot of the Ecuador players, over half of them,
are from one small part
of Ecuador that only has 3% of the people.
So it would be like if all of America's players
came from like Alabama or something.
And because it's the only part of Ecuador
that has like a high black population.
So they're all really athletic there.
But they're not from the highlands.
So and they play in Europe.
So other than when they play national team games
in Kito, they're not actually playing
at a high altitude the way Mexico is.
Kido.
I'm trying to think of something.
Wasn't there another, like, some kind of sport
where it's, like, all the Olympians that have won
or from, like, a certain, you know, one square of Europe or something like that?
Do you know what I'm talking about at all?
I'm not sure about that.
I do know that...
I want to say it's, like, ice skating or something.
Kenya has great long-distance runners,
but it's even more specific than that.
It's from, like, one tribe in one small part of Kenya.
Oh, gosh.
Oh, gosh.
runners. I'm being assaulted.
I'm getting assaulted by a Phillies fan
here. Hey, Jack, Jack. It's an
reales riot going on.
What's up? Oh, we got an Eagles fan
over here too. We got an Eagles fan over here too.
All right, well, well, guys, guys,
if I can, if I can, you know,
I know this is on our subject list and these guys were not
planning to be here today, but they got in.
I have a question. What, did you
You guys, we guys, we watched the Toy Story and He-Man this weekend, right?
Right.
Right.
And which movie did you guys like better?
He-Man.
He-Man.
Why?
Because it's better.
Because it's man-style.
Because it's man-style?
Yes.
And what does He-Man say?
I have the power.
Oh, I have the power.
And AJ, are you grabbing stuff that's like,
like swords and saying I have the power?
Yes.
Yes.
You like that?
Yes.
Like sticks or anything?
Yes.
All right.
Get out of here.
Okay.
Thank you.
Good work, guys.
He's got the power.
Oh, I get out too.
Oh, all right.
I will soon.
Wait.
The question, though, is, Jack,
does Europe have enough power to run its AC?
Oh.
Oh.
All right.
I don't know if you wanted to switch to the...
That was the most aggressive picture I ever heard,
Andrew Polo.
See, I was going to jump ahead to the heat man because the kids ran in.
I'm just depressed.
But if you want to do it back to the AC thing, we can do that as well.
Because I want to know, guys, I mean, we know we're going to hit with a heat wave.
I don't know.
Russ, I feel like we should hit the heat man thing because they just said it.
Yeah, let's hit the game.
Yeah, all right.
Yeah, we'll have to do Heeman first.
We'll get to the AC question.
He just said it.
He just said it.
So the kids, which.
That was an all-timer pivot.
It was an excellent.
That was a good try.
of the power of grace.
But we'll get there.
We will get there.
Did I say that right?
I never watched He-Man as a kid.
That full confession.
I think this is one of those things where tiny differences in age make a huge difference.
True.
So, Jack, I know that you're, what, a couple years older than me, and I guess this much to mean you're a vastly bigger He-Man fan than I am.
I never saw He-Man on anything.
I would honestly say, I would honestly say, like, you're right on the age question.
That being said, though, I was, you know, I was.
I was familiar with the He-Man toys as a kid.
I did not really watch the He-Man show as a kid.
I was quite familiar with the toys.
I actually think you have to be older than Jack and I to have appreciated He-Man.
It's like, it's Gen X was the core.
My brother's-H-Man was Gen-X, and I am not Gen-X.
Yeah, my brother is like five years older than me, and he watched He-Man.
So that's kind of like, if you're, like, placing it.
But I had the toys.
I had the toys.
I had the toys.
I never saw the toys either.
I think they were like leftover toys.
I think the only...
Anyway I heard of He-Man was I would read...
I went through that phase as a kid where I read Dave Barry books, like Dave Barry humor books.
And he has columns he wrote about his son playing with He-Man toys and explaining, this is He-Man, this is men-at-arms, this is these other guys.
And I remember reading that and not being sure if this was real or just something Dave Barry was making up.
Actually, funny enough is Tom Wolfe also brings up He-Man a lot.
in Bonfire of the Vanities.
Like,
because he's referring to himself as,
yeah,
yeah,
it's,
because, well,
the phrase master of the universe,
and it's like the main character,
the guy who's like,
he's like,
a bond trader,
he's like,
I'm a master of the universe,
like he man,
like my kids toys,
I'm a master of the universe.
That's what,
that's literally what it actually comes from.
That's funny.
That's what masters the universe comes from.
Yes,
it's a he man reference.
And he says something about,
like,
we should play some of the clips.
Because I feel like,
yeah,
you should explain what we're talking about.
I'm not what he man is.
Yeah,
clip six is probably
a good place to start.
It's a new movie.
Oh no,
there's the old one.
There's the old one, okay.
And the masters of the universe.
I am Adam,
Prince of Eternia,
and defender of the secrets
of Castle Grey Scum.
This is Cringer,
my fearless friend.
Fabulous secret powers
were revealed to me
the day I held aloft
my magic sword and said,
By the power of gray skull.
And I became
He-Man, the most powerful
man in the universe.
Only three others
share this secret.
Our friends, the sorceress,
Senate of Arms and Orko.
Together we defend Castle
Gray-Sull from the evil
forces of Skeletor.
Yeah, I'm looking, I
literally dug out the PDF
of Bonfire with the Vanities while we
that clip and it says the masters of the universe were a set of lurid rapacious
plastic dolls that Sherman McCoy's otherwise perfect daughter liked to play with
they looked like noahs god who lifted weights and they had names such as
Draikon Ahor Mangal Red and Blue Tong they were unusually vulgar even for plastic
toys and yet one day in a bit of euphoria he had picked up the telephone and
taken an order for zero coupon bonds that had brought him a 50,000
and dollar commission and just like that
the phrase bubbled into his head
I am a master of the universe
yeah and so like McCoy
is saying that like throughout the novel
yeah it does but I
just love that description of the choice are those actually
even He-Man characters Dracon
Blue Tong are those? I think
no I think that might be like
you know and this is
like classic Tom Wolfe that might be like
what McCoy's daughter called them
but that's not what they're actually called
apparently Blue Tongue is a viral
disease that ruminant species can get.
Uh-oh.
Let's dig in.
Let's see it.
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July 7. All right. Well, let's let's let's dig in. Let's see again. So that was the original
Hey Man. All right. That was the original Hey Man. Everybody, you know, you might you probably more familiar
with that. And then there's the new movie, which just came out like a week or two ago.
I'm going to try to get this back on track here.
And do we want to play that trailer as well?
Yeah, let's do it.
All right, let's do it.
So that was the 80, what, the 1980s show.
And this is the new film, which just dropped,
1903, or it just dropped a month ago, give a take.
I know most of you don't remember me.
But I know all of you.
Even though I was stuck, light years away on Earth.
Notice Battle Cat replaces the lion.
Never stop trying to get back home.
Everything changed since you left.
So I call.
Skeletorote of my family.
And he destroyed our world.
When you fall, it's to stand home.
It is my home.
I'm going to fight for it.
But I can't do it without you.
Somebody wants to bra.
I need every man.
Woman, or whatever that is.
Trust me.
You know that you're from another planet.
It just makes you sound a little very crazy.
Okay, Jack.
I'm going to say a few things being brutally honest here.
First of all, I saw that trailer in theaters a few months ago,
and it is the first time I ever saw a movie
and immediately Google on my phone.
Yes, I pulled up my phone in Google during the previews.
Did they make this movie using AI?
Because it looks very AI.
The trailers did not do this movie any help.
Also, it's a little weird to me because it seems like they're saying
this is the rise of He-Man, so it's his origin story, but it seems like...
Yeah, it's like a prequel.
like it's an origin story like a reboot
of the whole turn. But at the start he's already
like he's like ex-heeman, he has amnesia
and he's working as an accountant in New York
or something? He gets teleported
from
gray skull to earth
and then he grows up on earth
what's the thought crime here?
So here's the thought crime.
This is why I wanted to bring up as the thought crime
and I've written and I'm not even going to like
get into reviewing like whether it's a good movie or
like it the movie's got
issues. Like, I'm not even going to say that it's like the perfect movie or something.
Music is actually really cool. If you hear that guitar, the reason that it actually sounds like
Queen is because it's literally Brian May. They got him back to do the soundtrack and he has new
original songs for the film. But the thought crime here is that my kids loved this thing.
You saw them just running in and talking about it. They've been obsessed with it ever since they
watch it, especially the little one. And what struck me was,
was this is a film, and more specifically the character of He-Man, where it's a depiction of masculinity in such a way that you just don't find anywhere else in the mainstream of entertainment, in children's entertainment.
You don't find anything anywhere where you've just got a big muscle-bound guy who, in a very positive way, is just whaling on, on, back.
guys and there's something about that where you just put a sword in a young boy's hand and
have him hold it up and say i have the power that actually speaks to something that's very very
positive for young kids and so i at first i like wasn't super into it but then when i saw the
reaction that they had to it it it made me appreciate it more because i you know was kind of thinking
about it in contrast of all the other things that are out there in media today that
that this is something for young boys that they could look to and say, you know what?
I want to be a hero just like He-Man.
I can be just like He-Man.
And look, if you're, you know, someone who's got a young girl right now, there's everything.
Everything is all-female-coded or feminine-coded, whereas He-Man is like the one thing where it's just like, yeah, I'm a dude who's got the power of the cosmos, the power of the sword.
and you know what, I'm going to use it.
And by the way, the fact that it's a white guy doing that,
they didn't like, you know, they did re-swap man-at-arms,
but they did not, but it's interesting.
I mean, and they did not gender swap or race swap
or do any of that nonsense.
It's something where I said, you know what,
this is actually good for young boys to see
and that we should take them to see it.
And Blake, if you want to tie this in,
there's something in the psychology of specifically
the toys of the series,
which I'm sure they're going to try to sell a lot of toys,
kids like mine, that actually is at play here.
Yeah, so that's what we were thinking of linking it to here,
because He-Man infamously was originally created
to basically sell toys.
In fact, I think the toys existed, and then they made the show,
and then now the show, it all loops around.
But it turned into a thing that I guess is pretty old,
but I only learned of it yesterday.
And it's the, we were debating what to call this,
the Batman to Barbie pipeline,
the Batman shopping idea.
But it's literally how kids engage with toys,
which is pretty funny because I was reading that Batman versus Barbie.
It's like two separate psychologies.
Yeah.
Well, it's reading the excerpt here from that book where it's his daughter playing with the toys.
And we should wonder, how is she playing with the toys?
So it's this take that someone had.
Let me bring it up here.
Just a second.
Classic green text.
Classic 4chan green text, by the way.
Yes.
So what happens is.
this is all someone else brought it up, but it's the Batman shopping idea.
I can't believe you never saw this before, by the way.
Yeah.
So here's what someone alleged on 4chan ages ago.
Lego did a study when they created the Lego Friends line for girls where they discovered that when a boy plays with a toy of a character, it's totally different from how it is with a girl.
The boy tries to become the character.
The girl wants the character to become her.
So the example he gives, you give a boy a Batman toy.
He wants to know what is Batman's origin?
What is Batman's idea?
How does Batman act and behave?
And he'll play with Batman with Batman doing Batman things.
So he'll be motivated.
I have to get revenge for my parents.
But I can't kill anybody because Batman's not allowed to do that.
He's going to talk like this all the time.
All of that.
The girl, on the other hand, is going to take Batman and she's going to make Batman do girl stuff.
Batman will go shopping.
He will bake cookies.
He will go to the prom.
And there's exceptions, he says.
but the data says this is what's going on there.
And then this leads into,
this is arguably the reason that Star Wars
and so many other things have gone downhill
after Kathleen Kennedy and similar people have taken over
because when they're hands at a property,
they think,
how can I make this property more like me?
As opposed to how do I steward this property
in a way that makes sense with it?
So does Star Wars do stuff that makes sense in Star Wars terms?
Or are they just,
turning Star Wars into Ray has to go to the prom.
That's what they're doing.
That's what they're doing.
It's actually kind of funny.
I can vouch for this, by the way.
My children, my son specifically with Star Wars, ever since I took him to go see Mandelorian,
which Jack is still upset at me about, but like he's obsessed with Mando.
Yeah, it's called it when we tell the audience to do something.
We should hold ourselves to the same standard.
I didn't actually, you know, call anybody to do anything.
So there's that.
Somebody isn't watching the episodes.
I digress.
No, no, no.
I saw the chat.
I knew exactly, but I just, you know, listen, my son wanted to go.
I had a great time with him.
Anyways, he is doing all the Mando things.
He's not making Mando do whatever, you know, he thinks he should do.
It just seems like he's, and the other part that really resonates here is where you learn everything about him.
He knows like Mando facts, like about the character, about his weapons that are pretty obscure.
and he's kind of done that all on his own.
Like I haven't been leading him down any path or anything.
So I can say lived experience totally matches this description.
So actually that's exactly what my boys are doing.
Just real quick, with He-Man.
They're doing the exact same thing.
It's like, you know, okay, who is mom and dad?
Okay, got it.
And what's the deal with the cat?
The tiger changes to Battle Cat when he has the power.
Got, okay, cool.
And they want to learn all those things about him.
But then it's also that I think the deeper thing.
though they were talking about here is like so it's it's like a role playing in the sense that hey
i can be he man i can be uh whatever you know star wars character you just made up um i can be
um batman in this situation and it's sort of like giving that actual empowerment whereas
with lego when they did because uh blake in the the thing you read they talked about the lego friends
line and the lego friends line this is very similar to barby where it's like
like they make personalized characters that you can go in and then customize,
which is totally separate from like every other Lego set that's ever been made before.
And this was how, this was the psychology that allowed Lego to finally open up the,
the, uh, the female market, the, the, the, to market to young girls that, you know, that
they found that girls wanted that kind of toy more, whereas boys wanted to do role playing.
And so rather than, we, I mean, you know, we've, you know, we've all seen this trope with like
the girls will have like the, like the.
you know, every toy story they talk about it,
where like the girl will have the toys go,
the action toys go to like a tea party, right?
You know, that's because that's what girls do.
Whereas boys want to fight and play with the toys
and view themselves as the toys.
There was actually that cool series,
The Toies That Make Us?
Do you guys ever see that on Netflix?
No, I have.
Or I think it was YouTube maybe.
That talks about how the toys were made.
And one piece, I wrote this up for human events,
that when the toys were first made, to Blake's point,
that they let them play with,
they just let kids play with the toys.
And some of the boys were going back and forth saying,
I have the power.
No, I have the power back.
And that's where they got the line from,
was just actual kids playing in, like, a focus group.
And one of the things that they dug through and realized
was that when you're a young boy like that,
you're constantly surrounded in areas
where women have, like, total authority, right?
you're at home and mom's the boss, you know, for most of the day, you go to school,
then, and, you know, the teaching staff is mostly female.
And so they feel powerless.
But now, now when I have this, I get to be He-Man.
And He-Man has all of the power.
So it's actually, it was a repudiation of the Longhouse back then,
whereas, like, today, this system has only gotten worse.
The situation has only gotten worse because the Longhouse of the female-run
consensus-driven world is like literally everywhere you go.
And, you know, we might disagree on this, but I actually took the first part of the movie
as actually sort of showing that.
Because in the film, when it starts out, that's kind of the joke, is that He-Man actually
works in an HR department.
And he has this like, he has this like feminist girl boss director.
And he gets fired.
It doesn't go very well.
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So speaking of how girls play with toys, I think there's kind of funny old proof of this,
which is clearly based on probably what an early Pixar animators' own kids were doing.
But the original toy story, back before there was four and five and all these other,
and the gay Buzz Light Your movie.
We had the original toy story, which is amazing.
And you may remember there's a scene where Buzz ends up in the hands of Sid's little sister.
And Woody goes to rescue him.
and let's show how they portrayed her playing with them.
Let's do clip 16.
Buzz, hey, Buzz, are you okay?
It's all God.
Oh, it's gone.
Bye-bye.
Who's here?
What happened to you?
When minute you're defending the whole galaxy.
And suddenly you find yourself.
Sucking down Darjeeling with
Maria Twenthalette and her little sister.
I think you've had enough T4 today.
Let's get you out of here.
Don't you get it?
You see the hat?
I am Mrs. Nesbett.
Snap out of it, Buzz.
I'm sorry.
You're right.
I am just a little depressed.
That's all.
I can get through this.
Oh, I understand.
Shh.
Look at me.
I can't even fly out of a window.
But the hat looked good.
Tell me the hat looked good.
The apron is a bit much.
Out the window.
By your a jeez.
Come on.
This way.
Years of Academy
training waste.
Oh, I love the original
twist story.
I love, I love story.
I am Mrs. Nesbett.
Telling me the hat looks good.
Yeah, that's exactly the point, right?
That's the point that like the little girl made Buzz Lightyear, who's a, you know,
an action, space man, uh, secret agent kind of character into...
She put him in the long house.
She put him in the long house.
No, wait.
There's a natural...
The count.
The counterpoint here, though, that I'm saying.
So, okay, girls will do this with boy toys.
Do you see the opposite?
Like, will boys, if put into this situation, like, where they only have Barbies to interact with?
Will they play house or will they make her the girlfriend of Batman?
I don't know.
Do your boys ever play with girl-coated toys in any capacity, Jack?
No.
No.
See, I feel that might be the issue.
There have been times where, like, we're like, they've gone over, like,
you'll have girlfriends or something who have daughters.
And if we're like a range of play date, like they will just march right past the girl toys and pick up like a ball or something else.
Like they just, it's like they don't even exist.
Yeah, which is good.
But it does strike me if we're going to engage with the thought crime here.
There might be an issue there.
If they're saying boys will get into the headspace of the toy.
Well, yeah, if the toy is awesome, but if the toy is domestic.
So my parents actually took it a step further.
use essentially this thought process as why
growing up we weren't allowed to watch Star Wars we weren't allowed to watch
Batman or Superman which is hilarious because I'm a giant nerd now
there was we essentially we would watch Animal Planet Discovery Channel the
History Channel but then there was this animated show called Rescue Heroes
which is essentially they just made
police officers, firemen,
lifeguards, doctors, like all these heroes.
And so the whole show is literally just them like,
oh, we have the wildfire.
We have to go save the people.
And literally you had like essentially a he-man style toys,
but it was Billy Blazes the fireman.
And he had like a mustache and everything.
And would they like all team up with each other?
So the paramedic just shows up to help with the fire.
It was literally like Avengers or Justice League,
but like for like first responders.
Did they have one guy who had like a really niche skill?
Like they'd have they'd have the Coast Guard guy who's good at water just tagging along in the desert rescue or something?
The Coast Guard guide actually had a pet dolphin that helped him on rescue.
That's a that's actually pretty awesome.
Yeah.
And literally you had these toys where you would have like a ship or there was like a big aircraft carrier.
It was literally the Avengers and Justice League but for first responders.
I feel like the real fantasy here is various public.
safety departments envisioning
what they would do with an unlimited budget,
like have a giant aircraft carrier for water rescues.
Angelo, I'm glad we have dads weighing in.
Angelo does point out that boys do
exactly one thing if they get their hands
on our Barbie doll. I think
saying that, you can imagine.
It's dredging up childhood memories of myself
at this point. Yeah, yeah, we all know what that is.
Yeah.
Don't give Barbies to your boys.
We've all got childhood memories of doing the exact.
Don't get Barbies to your boys.
And yeah, positive depictions of masculinity are good for young boys.
And I think that we should support those.
And that's why I'm saying just, you know, put a sword in your young kids' hand.
I mean, if you're a boy or if you have boys or, you know, grandsons, that you'll see that kids, young boys will automatically, they be walking down the street and they pick up a stick.
And suddenly that stick turns into a stored and they're on and a day.
adventure and teach them that they have the power, and this is key, do not ever let anyone tell
them they don't.
Exactly.
I'd say even a bigger picture thing there, a thing that bothers me, you'll have these adults
who will say this is a great kid show because it engages with more nuance or whatever.
We made a character and their parents are divorced and they have a messed up home life.
And I'm really wondering if that should be basically considered very bad behavior for
anyone who's under the age of 11 or 12 or something.
Because I feel like we actually benefit if you give kids zero irony, be an awesome superhero,
and they're on a team of other awesome superheroes who do heroic good stuff and they beat the bad guys.
You don't want all these weird moral layers and ambiguities going on because then they'll just be messed up in the head and you want them to be superheroes.
Yeah.
Oh, by the way, I should also add, and since I appreciate you guys indulging this topic, because I do think it's important for parenting.
It's not just about he-man.
Where did the original He-Man kind of fall off?
Like, why was something that was so popular that controlled, like, the entire, you know, kid-space, kiddom until, you know, the late 80s?
And I argue that it was when they introduced He-Man's sister, Shira.
And they went all in on Shira, and Shira became the twin sister of He-Man.
And then suddenly it wasn't just he has the power.
It's that she has the power too.
And were there some girls that bought it, I'm sure.
But, you know, what did it do?
I think it turned off a lot of the boys.
And it was something that kind of like, you know, made it so that the franchise just did not continue through the 90s.
And it never really took off again in the way that it had before.
and I think it was because they messed up to psychology.
The deep programming of feminism in our culture is something that's worth thinking about and studying.
You know, I recently became aware of the fact that, you know, when the original suffragettes were kind of pushing their propaganda, guess who their main opponent was?
It was actually women.
Women, so they would do these votes across the country.
And, you know, in Massachusetts, for example, they did some vote on, you know,
women suffrage and it was like 94 to 6 the women were against it so uh it's very interesting
when you think about this was like a 150 year project maybe even longer really back to the 1840s
it has been so long in the making so deeply ingrained in the psyche of the culture that you
kind of can't really you it's hard to understand for each person where the programming begins and
So we've all been totally propagandized about this stuff. And it is a weird phenomenon when it comes to the male psyche. And I totally agree with you on this, Jack. Men, if you celebrate them and push them and champion them, they will go from boys to men. They will become fully formed human adults with strength, power, and authority. If you don't, if women swarm, they will shrink back. I don't know if you want to call that. That is a weakness of the sex. I don't know. But there is a
thing that if you if you cut off a man's development early he will not fully form he will become a weak
man he will become a shrinking violet he will do all the things that we don't want men to do but if you
champion him and it gets fully formed he's unstoppable and so i you see this in the workplace one of the things
that i keep thinking about and blake was the one who actually brought this to my attention was the
helen andrews piece we're just talking about the great awokening that the the females are starting to
overpopulate in corporate spaces they're becoming the majority in
corporate spaces. I think we can't underestimate how disastrous this can be because there is something
about men. You see this at the university. Now it's what, 62% of degrees go to women now at this point,
which is obscene when men used to dominate. It used to be like 80-20. It's like invading locusts.
I mean, no disrespect to the women, but you got to champion men or they will shrink back.
But once they become fully formed, once they become powerful, they'll become the protected
of civilization. So I totally agree, Jack, we need to encourage young men to,
to watch He-Man. I think it's great. It's great programming. It's great for the development of
young boys' minds. But there is something about women. They'll just keep coming. They'll just keep
coming and men will shrink back. And maybe it is a weakness of the male sex, but you got to
promote them. You've got to champion them. Totally agree. Yeah. No thought. I think that's all.
I think the biggest picture thing of all is it illustrates the importance of dudes specifically really need
implicitly all male spaces.
And some of that is actual organizations.
I think the Boy Scouts clearly went into a tailspin
when they started letting girls in.
I don't think that's surprising.
But it's even with things,
it's like you said with the He-Man thing.
Guys are going to want a thing that is just the guy thing.
I think it's really messed with the military
that we've let women into it.
I think in an existential way,
it's just guys.
This probably goes back to the step
when the original proto-Indo-Europeans
we're expanding with their horse warrior legions to conquer the entirety of Europe and India and the Middle East and all of that.
But they got to have their group of dudes.
You got to have a dudes rock club.
This is why I think it's I think it's diabolical that women always want to invade male spaces.
It's completely diabolical because we so fundamentally need those spaces.
We need those shows.
We need those programs.
We need those experiences as young people.
And so they all get attacked.
That's what they're doing.
Every single one gets attacked.
there, women have the biological
need to push against this, and they are
testing if we have the resolve
to say no. And deep down,
I think they want us to say no.
But are we going to be strong enough to do it?
Are we going to be strong enough to say no, but we're not going to
green light the Shira movie.
Women are crying out.
Women are crying out across America.
Don't make a Shira movie.
Don't let it happen, but they're
saying the opposite. And we have to be strong enough to know what they really want.
Remember when they did that?
that Ghostbusters with all women?
Oh, that was terrible.
Yeah, see, they didn't actually want to make the Chick Ghostbusters.
They were saying, I want to make Chick a Ghostbusters,
crying out for a man to say, no, that's not necessary.
Kind of like the new Supergirl movie, which we haven't been talked about,
but just, again, crashed and burn.
We're not even going to dignify that with an extended discussion.
I will say, having watched both,
I'm glad that He-Man is out there that they can go,
that there is an op like how did it do it's already been out for like a month uh how did it do jett
it didn't do great unfortunately not do well no heman did not do well and i it definitely did better
the supergirl to be fair it did better the supergirl but i it did not do that well and i would argue that's
because they didn't lean into this type of marketing and doing it this way you know saying hey this is a
movie for boys and it's unapologetically a movie for boys because in the marketing they kind of played
up, you know, some of these other aspects. And I think that, I think that people maybe got the wrong
take on it or they saw him sitting at a desk with pronouns and they didn't think that it was like a,
like a satire. It was making fun of the pronouns. The first hour is pretty, uh, female coded. And well,
and they do this. I think that I didn't care for looking at that trailer. They throw in the,
you know, they throw the little, I know how to use it joke and a few similar things. Like they
actually, they dilute what could be a boy adventure.
with a handful of bits of,
call it Joss Whedon-esque humor,
you know, to make it flip it
and light, and this is totally, it appeals
to millennials.
Look at this.
I think it's a big misfire.
It reminds me when they made,
when they made the Power Rangers movie
about a decade ago, and I saw it,
and I just thought,
I saw it because I was a huge Power Rangers
not as a kid.
And I thought the way to do that movie
would have been you go 10 out of 10,
it's cartoonish.
Everyone's making weird Japanese hand gestures
as they talk,
just like in the show,
and they're all super earnest.
All the kids are do-gooders,
just like they are in the show,
and you just give it a bigger budget,
and it'd be really entertaining.
And instead they did that,
where they made it,
oh, the kids are,
they're now like bad boys and girls.
They meet in detention.
And one of them,
like,
she feels,
she's,
like,
disgraced because she shared,
I think,
nude photos of a friend,
like,
to hurt her,
and then that friend killed herself or something.
They added all this darkness,
and I'm like,
this is a power ranger.
That was in power range.
Yeah, they had this in Power Rangers and it just totally messed up the same time. It was the same time that we had revenge porn and Power Rangers.
Yeah, yeah.
Where it was like every superhero movie. Darker and edgier. It was so bad. It was. It was that. It was that.
So here's a lot of that. Yeah, we need to, we have too much irony in society. We need to take the irony out and tell kids they should be awesome because awesome people. Yeah, we need corny is okay. Yeah. It's okay to be.
Horny.
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It reminds me of what my pastor used to say.
He would just like, because we always like present those like, oh, he was a drug dealer.
and he went to prison and now he gave his life to Jesus.
And he's like, I want to make a church.
I want to like support and preach to a church that has a lot of boring testimonies.
Like, you know, like we don't need everybody to be, their life story to be, you know, something you could turn into a novel.
Okay.
So like, let's just keep it straight.
Here's what's interesting, though, Blake, you are right about this.
Demographic failure is what they say.
Audience Data from Variety revealed the movie heavily relied on nostalgia, attracting an audience that was 66% male.
Not a bad thing, actually.
but here's the bad thing
and 40% over the age of 45
it completely failed to capture younger crowds
with children under 12
making up only 4% of the audience
so something to Jack's point
that could have been so good for young people
didn't get to any young people
but anyways what's interesting is to
they're really they're just dragging
it's like hey well this
well I mean what is it the first trailer
they kept bouncing between
the 1983 He-Man and the new
like they kept kind of interspersing
the scenes. So that was, it was very much, yeah, they were going after the nostalgia. But get this,
MGM studios may still green light a sequel because it is a considered a core IP asset and can
drive prime video streaming subscriptions and long-term ecosystem engagement. Is MGM owned by Amazon?
I can see this, I could see this movie becoming a streaming hit. I can absolutely see this movie
becoming a streaming hit because especially if you have the ability to forward and rewind, you can
forward through the first hour of this film
and just, and kids will just literally
just enjoy the action part. Yeah, my
my, uh, my five year old
to your point, he'll be like, he'll be like
Daddy, I don't want to watch the talking parts.
Yeah, exactly. Well, and that's, and
that's the biggest thing is like, give me the, I just
want to watch the He Man parts. That first
hour is very like, it's two different
movies for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And Amazon does own
if they turn into a stream. Yeah. Yeah, so Amazon
owns MGM. So something to be said and, you know,
Obviously, Disney has been, you know, Andrew, this is more your lane of country, but something I know Disney has been experimenting with this as well is sort of like the in the theater plus on streaming, either simultaneous release or you do like a couple, you know, a couple weeks in theater and then you go to streaming because if you have a streaming service that's owned by the studio, which used to be separate, so it used to be separate income streams, now it's the same company owns both.
And so you can make your money back or you can do other things that make your money back with the streaming service.
So that overall piece there of, you know, the box office isn't always going to be the end-all, be-all.
And of course, Warner Brothers with D.C., they just got bought out.
You know, they're tied up in the big Paramount merger.
So it's not totally, you know, it's not totally, the ink is not dried on that.
I'm actually told by a guy who I know on the HBO side that they haven't fully vested, et cetera, whatever.
But, you know, it's, we're just changing the marketplace is basically what I'm saying.
There is an extra credit scene for He-Man that shows Shira.
And it's heavily implied that it's going to be Sidney-Sweeney.
So if they're going to actually make money off of a movie, that would be the best way to do it is to have her be the be-she-Raw.
why not?
We go
Michael.
Oh my gosh.
We've now got full circle
with Barbie dolls.
Which will,
you know,
while our mind is in the gutter,
we may as well keep it there.
Because we need to have a debate
over ID verification
because Congress is,
they're not lurching into action
on birthright citizenship.
They're not lurching into action
on a lot of things.
But Democrats and Republicans
have finally come together
to say that we should restrict
the interest.
internet more. And we were actually having a big debate about this in our pre-show chat. So we thought, why not bring it on air?
The segue here, I guess, is that this is, it's also about kids in a sense.
True. Because there's an act that is going through Congress right now talking about, you know, and when you look at the headline of it, you know, you'd think this would be something that, that everyone would support, that a lot of parents would support about banning children.
from accessing pornography online.
This is obviously something that we can all agree is good.
This is something that Charlie talked about at length,
including, I believe, on this program,
and certainly obviously on the main show.
And this is something that we all want to do.
A lot of states have been adding these age verifications
at the state level for these websites.
However, what this new bill is doing,
and, oh gosh, that just passed the House, I believe.
and Blake, if you have the name of it, you could help me with that.
It has just that lovely name.
The Kids Internet and Digital Safety Act, which I've been around the block of us to say like, that's a name to run away from very quickly.
Think of the children.
Think of the children.
So that all sounds good.
You got to look who's sponsoring this stuff.
What are the problems with it?
And yeah, let's see if it's pushed by meta.
I don't know.
I think the main, the person they bothered to name.
name in this write-up about it is Senator Marsha Blackburn, who is a Republican, but I mean,
it actually passed with bipartisan support. I just, you know, if you look at the details,
it says that companies have to have ways to limit addictive features in their apps for kids.
You need to have policies in place to protect children from sexual exploitation.
A Senate version, which would be even tougher, would add a duty of care on social media
companies for young people, which that strikes me as something that would be really dangerous
because you're essentially creating this unlimited ambit for the government to come in and say,
oh, this company, it wasn't following its duty of care towards children, we can blow it to smithereens.
And all I can think of is that would be so easy to blow up Twitter, for example, X, and say,
oh, you were allowing kids to get access to inappropriate content because it was racist,
because it was pornographic because it was any number of things,
better blow it to smithereens.
And that's why I'm always wary of any online safety bill personally.
I don't understand why the, why we don't just do something.
I don't, but, well, okay, go ahead.
So, so you're asking why is meta behind it?
It says meta, just real quick,
meta is behind it because this puts the onus on the app store and the play store
and gives immunity to what they refer to as like the social media providers.
So Facebook, et cetera, those guys would have protections, whereas they're saying the onus is now on the, it's like it's at the phone level, basically.
Well, and that's, a lot of that also has to be because, like, Facebook has already done a bunch to, to limit access to, to, like, Facebook and to Instagram with kids.
Like you've got, you now have parental controls.
You now have time controls.
Well, they're limiting liability.
It's all about limiting liability, right?
And I don't understand why.
So I would love the option.
So I sign up for internet at my house, right?
I pay the internet service provider a monthly fee.
I would love the option to opt in to a,
any of these porn websites are disallowed in your house.
And if you want to like go in the back end and like they get one of them wrong or something,
but if somebody created like a database that, hey, these websites are unavailable at your house,
I would opt into that for the sake of my family, for the sake of the internet, for the sake of the
country. I think a lot of families would. That seems to be, if you're just dealing with porn,
that's one thing. This thing is too broad sweeping. And I think it opens the Pandora's box
of censorship and, you know, potentially creating criminal liability or civil liability
on stuff that should be the parents' domain. That's my first instinct.
here. Yeah. So, I mean, I'm sure there's, I'm sure there's like apps or VPNs that already do that. And
and you're absolutely right. There should be something that is done at the service provider level.
The, the issue that I see with it, of course, though, from a privacy standpoint, though, and this is
what I've seen a lot of pushback online, is people are saying, well, wait a minute, you know,
is this going to create some giant government database where you, where the government can then see
every single person who's associated with a certain username online.
And I'm a huge support.
So if that's true, I'm totally opposed to something like that because I think, look,
the MAGA movement would not exist without internet anonymity.
We have all lived in a world where we have seen people canceled over anonymous writings
that have later than been, you know, attributed to them or just, you know,
regular writings that have attributed to them that are totally, just totally normal opinions,
you know, or as a, we really keep me in to cover it, but like the opinions of a normal person 30 years ago.
And I think that we live in a time that where we're totally controlled by the Longhouse,
we're totally controlled by our institutions are controlled by our enemies.
We had debanking going on up until like five minutes ago of conservatives.
And so, you know, giving away internet anonymity would be a very, very, very,
foolish move to do and like the grand chessboard i don't think i don't think we are so i don't think
you need anonymity all the time though like i don't i don't think that there is a reason to like yeah
sure is it nice to sometimes be able to like not like be able to kind of cover your thing yourself
but i don't think anonymity especially on the internet is anything more than
a smokescreen because everybody has an iPhone. Everybody uses their face ID. Everybody or not just
Russ. Not just an iPhone. But think about it. So listen, I think your heart's in the right place,
but think about it in terms of politics, right? How many amazing conservative right wing MAGA accounts
existed simply because they were able to be anonymous and tell the truth online. If they would have,
their identities would have been docs, then they would have lost their jobs. They would have been,
you know, we're in this unique position where we're,
we're able to be, say and do and think what we, what we want freely and not be fired for it,
not be sent to the HR team.
Where that's just not the case for a lot of people.
They have, they have to protect their identities.
I remember when this debate became front and center.
It was like, it was like Jordan Peterson versus Cerno is the way I remember it.
Do you remember this, uh, Pozo where Jordan Peterson was raging against the Annan accounts?
And it was like, you know, and I, I, you know, I respect to where it's in 1.0.
I'm going to hold him to this.
Jordan Peterson 1.0 in 2017
went on Joe Rogan and
was celebrating
Anon's online
and was saying that like these
accounts are great, I love it, they're so
good, they say things that no one else can
say, you need to be anonymous in a time like
this, like the guy literally was like preaching
Solzhen who obviously, you know,
lived in the Soviet Union, so at a place
where the anonymity was necessary
or you could die.
And then all of a sudden,
Jordan Peterson like totally flipped on that during like COVID.
Okay.
I will say what totally happens is there are people who are broadly in favor of anonymity or they turn against it and crash out over it because anonymous people pick fights with them online and they can't handle it, which I think is kind of little lame and pathetic.
I think there's also just 100%.
I've seen people who think, oh, people who are anonymous basically shouldn't be allowed to have takes.
I've seen that.
I think Richard Hanani has argued that.
And then there's also just, how to put it?
Like, some people just can't handle anonymous people existing.
And I think it's actually a very important right
that if you have the ability to say something,
you should be able to say it anonymously, period.
And another thing I would add is if you've been around online enough,
you've seen sometimes journalists or activists will be feuding with someone,
And they're clearly trying to goad somebody into giving them their identity just so they can go and mess with their life and mess around with them.
I mean, it's happened with all of the lunatic conspiracy theorists around Charlie.
They want to probe into everyone's personal life.
I've seen them do this to random people pushing back against them online.
You have to have their ability to be anonymous because it is one of the fundamental tools that an ordinary person has to resist those who want to act tyrannically against them.
Sometimes that's government.
sometimes that's just organizations and companies.
Sometimes it's just people who have more social power than you.
But are we really saying that the government doesn't already have a list of people with their handles
and they can't find out.
They have a lot.
They have a lot, but it's a pain in the butt for them.
And there's weird bureaucratic obstacles that if you tear them down will make it a lot easier for them to weaponize.
But look at prison.
So this is where.
Prism was a thing and was taking all of our, taking all of our,
data for years before it ever got whistleblown.
So saying that the government doesn't already have a list of people and their handles is
kind of ludicrous when you think about it.
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I will say though, it's like this is where I get really torn up on the Palantir debate, you know,
because they're trying to build databases and get the different agencies to talk to each other
so that the government is, you know, know, like for example,
the Social Security Administration knows what the welfare and Medicaid know, et cetera,
I support that because I want to get rid of illegals off the rolls.
I want to get them off the, I want to detect fraud.
But yeah, there is a point where you're kind of like,
I do want to be able to be left alone and not surveilled all the time if I want to be.
You know, and there needs to be, there needs to be a line.
So, yeah, I mean, I guess I'm arguing this from a pragmatic perspective,
whereas obviously I want to protect internet anonymity online as much as possible,
having been a guy who had Palantir access
and not prison access but access to other things.
It's like the user in the intelligence community
doesn't have the ability to just like look up anything like that.
Like there are still, as Blake says,
there are all these like hoops you have to jump through.
There are bureaucratic protections, et cetera.
You can't just like blanket go after people
the way that you could potentially
if you were like, say, a bad actor at Apple or Google.
And we certainly know that there are lots of bad actors at Google,
probably Apple as well. And when, certainly if you look at their, their founder's ex and the way that she spends her money, the widow, and when you, you don't want to make it easy for these companies to be able to do that, number one. But number two, to Andrew's point, that this is where libertarianism fails. And I think we've talked about this a number of times is that they keep saying like, oh, we shouldn't give the government this power. We shouldn't give the government this power. And then a lot of the
long come someone who just gives the government that power and then suddenly they have it,
and now you're stuck in a corner arguing that they shouldn't have it, but they're never going to
give up said power. So the only actual viable option left to you is to take over the government
because you have to control the sword, right? You must, it's going back to He-Man, right? You have to
be the one who picks up the sword and says, this is mine now, and then you must defend it.
Because just because power can be wielded in an abusive way doesn't mean that you should just like sit in the corner and argue like, oh, well, we shouldn't do anything that's going to give ourselves power.
Because eventually they will find a way to get power and come after you.
And we've certainly all experienced that.
We've all seen that throughout the Biden era.
No question.
Merrick Garland.
And it is where you just need to fight back.
You just need to be able to fight back.
Well, isn't this law, though, Jack?
Isn't this law, like, if you're trying to look at porn or something like that, you have to put in, like, an ID?
Isn't that part of this law?
I think that's the state law.
That's currently where the state law is like that, I know.
Yeah.
This is a law that says if you, I guess, want to download apps, you have to put in government ID.
See, that's very uncomfortable for me.
I kind of, I think there's eccentric ways to go about this that would make it better.
to, so for example, one of the ideas I've liked for adult websites for pornographic ones is you'd have the requirement that you have to pay for it, even if it's 10 cents.
You have to actually go and input a credit card into it.
Maybe you go and get one of those prepaid ones if you want to get around it.
But I think one, a lot of people will finally be attacked with shame when they're realizing I am paying for this dirty product.
And two, it's just it's a hurdle that's annoying to get over.
So you're increasing the commitment needed to get it.
And that's essentially what the states are relying on by having you put in your government ID.
Because you have to essentially take a picture of your ID.
Again, so it is that.
Yeah.
Listen, I'm all for good ideas to like reduce porn consumption, especially amongst young people.
But like when you get into the point where you have to put an idea in, there's just something about that that feels, again, like counter, I don't know, you know, the freedom.
that we should have as Americans.
Again, I think there should be massive, massive tools to fight back against this stuff,
but having to put your idea in to download an app, I don't know.
Like, that just, it just feels like against the spirit of the Internet.
Well, one of the arguments, I was just pulling up some stuff about it,
was they were pointing out that one of the reasons that meta may be for this so much
is that this actually, to your point earlier, takes the liability away from meta,
and takes the liability away in the way that the state laws are actually much stricter.
So the state laws are stricter, but obviously a state law couldn't countermand a national law.
So that's why meta and probably a bunch of the other tech companies are sitting there saying,
hey, the way that we can beat these state laws is by passing this national law,
which is actually just going to be like a thin veneer of regulation that isn't going to really prevent anyone from seeing this kind of
But it gets a liability off our back.
Yeah, but here's the thing.
Like tech savvy kids are going to find a way around that, by the way.
And the other thing that comes to mind is like, where are they going to go to get this stuff if they're not going, you know, the normal internet?
Are they going to like 4chan chats?
Are they going to read it chats?
Like, where are they going to go some sort of dark web corners where maybe they're, you know, I don't know.
There's just like a thousand bad things that can happen.
happen if you do if you if you start doing this um but again i i support it in in spirit but i just
think like so many other things that conservatives end up doing from a legislative standpoint
the law of unintended consequences and that they're betraying certain principles that we shouldn't
betray um i don't know you're here whatever blake thinks i mean my big take generally it's you know
we think of ways to negotiate this and my big take is basically that an
almost fully anonymous internet had essentially zero downsides.
Everything we've done to curtail that has been because of panic attacks people had.
That was the internet bad in 2014?
Because that's how long you go, you have to go back to basically totally unfettered,
super anonymous, super free internet.
That's when Reddit still had subreddits that were.
And why did they take it away?
They took it away because Trump won.
Because they thought it was, oh, we got Trump won because of the Anons in 2016.
Because Gamergate and then, you know, sort of the online sphere in 2016 that it morphed into, that became the MAGA supporters, that eventually, you know, and it's like those people kept getting unmasked.
And it's like, oh, it turns out that they were actually like people who were quite professional or quite intelligent that for whatever reason had been, you know, pushed out of their companies or pushed out of the academy or whatever it was, that that's why it became such a threat.
And so we all praise Elon for returning us to some semblance of that and allowing that to happen again, not that there aren't issues with X, one of which, by the way, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that I think it's a huge mistake that pornography is allowed on X.
I continue to say that that's a huge mistake.
I think that Elon should take steps to correct that.
I don't think that it should be something that's allowed to be shared at all on X.
I think it's bad, although I will note it was allowed on their back again during the super liberal free speech.
times as well. And I will say, bizarrely,
that's where how much
smut is injected everywhere
in life, I will say, I never
ever accidentally run into
smut on X as part of being there.
I don't ever see it on X.
So they're pretty good. I've never
problems with X. No, I'll just say it.
One of the big problems is if you're using the
advanced search tools that
where you're searching like every tweet
that a lot of these pornographers
then will target like
trending topics or
like city names that are trending
and then put that in the description
of the tweet so if you're using an advanced
Twitter search tool which I use all the time
that then those tweets will start
coming up
so you won't see them
typically on like your actual algorithm
but if you're using advanced search
or if you're just typed in like
you know if you're searching for something like boom
you're just hit with it and you're like what the heck is this
I just on balance
think that the ultra
you know the liberalized internet
in the classical sense was basically a great thing
and it's only been downhill
when it's been restricted in any way
and it's just annoyingly easy
for the left to say this is for the kids
and they get the right on board
with stuff that inevitably doesn't really protect kids much
and does open the door to a bunch of other things
and even it's just how often does this happen
where they say okay we're worried about kids
getting groomed on the internet I know that's a reasonable fear
to think about, but actually how often does that happen versus, let's say, the most mundane thing in the world?
What would save more kids if we said we're going to have this strict internet control regime to stop groomers,
or actually you're not allowed to raise a kid with like your mom's boyfriend?
He's not allowed to live in the same house as you.
I bet that would stop a lot more child abuse than any of this.
Yeah, I just want to, I just want to say it again.
I would love if they just dealt with it at the internet service provider level.
Like every house, like here's your Cox or here's your whatever internet service.
And they just said, do you want to opt in for your children to ban these certain website?
Yeah, it's great.
That's still going to take something from Congress because no company is going to actually do that.
Like, like, to be fair, I mean, there's already probably like third party groups that that have it.
Yeah, but it doesn't have to be mandated.
Parental controls aren't like a new thing.
Like parental controls exist for, like I have it for Roku for example.
We have like a Roku house and, you know, I have it set up that, like, my kids can't download and purchase and certain things.
You get it at the source. You get it at the source because, like, right now it's like if I want to put parental controls, I got to deal with like this streamer, this streamer, this like laptop, whatever.
Like, we're not really at that phase yet.
But it, it sort of makes you wonder, like, other, it's like whackamol right now as opposed to just like, hey, you can, you know, opt into something simple.
I think that would be a simpler solution.
I think what, you know, how decentralized it is and how different each platform is,
you also have to learn each new thing that your kid can get and get access to in order to do it.
I think it's a huge, huge problem.
And I think most parents are confused.
How do you like-
But if I'm feeling like that, Russ, then like how many other parents are feeling?
I'm not offering my services.
I'm already my parents' tech guy.
I don't need to be so else.
I'm just, hey, whoa, whoa, this opportunity, man, like, like pitch, shoot your shot, man.
This is, it shouldn't be this hard.
It shouldn't be this hard as a parent.
That's all I'm saying.
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I want to make sure we've been going a while.
We said we double back to this, and I think we need to double back to it.
We've got to double back to the AC question.
Should Europeans have rights given that they have been granted freedom and they use it to deny themselves air conditioning?
Like absolute psychopaths.
No, we need to shut down
European governments
until we can understand
what the hell is going on.
Because apparently
in some countries,
they are actually, I think it was the UK,
where they were shutting down.
There's a massive heat wave going on in Europe.
Temperatures are like over 100 degrees
Fahrenheit because that's
God's temperature
system. We're not going to use anything else.
It's more granular. It is more granular.
And we are going to use it, which is based off of water, which is the source of all life.
And as opposed to any other systems that...
They're all dying, Jack. They're all dying.
They're all dying because they're refusing to allow people to use air conditioning because they all believe in climate change.
Blake, is this actually true?
Yes. It seems that the Europeans who have largely abandoned Christian,
and abandoned their great civilizing mission that uplifted the entire planet.
They have now embraced the culture of decay, the culture of assisted suicide, and the culture
of just overheating yourself to death.
He headed the way of the heath.
I actually think this is a really, this is actually a profoundly important thing because
the left itself is allowing the world to split into a political axis of pro-air conditioning
and anti-air conditioning.
And there are fewer, there are very few issues I think we can get a 90-10 advantage on.
And I think we can get that on air conditioning should exist and is awesome and we should put it in everything.
Now here, I got to ask a question. Jack, what do you keep your thermostat at?
Taylor-Lorin's level?
You know, as a guy who has a European wife, this is constantly an issue in my household because, of course, Tanya
is, you know, not super, you know, not a super big fan of air conditioning to begin with.
So we, we currently ride around like 71, 72.
Okay.
Andrew.
So that's, which represents a compromise, to be sure.
74.
Okay.
Blake.
You answer first.
No, no, no.
No.
I'm asking the question.
This is going to make me sound truly demented.
Most of the time when I am at home,
If I'm not trying to go to sleep, I keep it at like 79.
Gee, any Christmas.
Wow.
We float between 73 and 75.
What's weird, what I will say is when my air conditioner is running in my apartment,
it like, wherever I am for whatever reason, I can feel it actively blowing on me, it seems.
And it always makes it feel way too cold such that even in, like if I'm in a t-shirt,
I keep a longer sleeve kind of like a wool.
thing that I had from when I lived in D.C.
And I just keep it on my computer because sometimes if the AC starts running colder
late at night before I go to bed, I will just put that on because it is uncomfortably cold
to be in a T-shirt.
So I just, I don't want that during the afternoon.
I say, screw this.
I'm just setting it to 79 so it's not running that often.
I would rather put a sweatshirt on than turn the heat up, like turn the AC up any higher.
Or especially with the winter here in Arizona.
I'll open windows and just turn the AC off or like the air off.
But I would rather put a sweatshirt on, put a beanie on, put sweats on, put sweats on, then I would turn that thing up.
So this is, I don't want to be a European way.
Russ, that was me when I was at, when I was at Gitmo.
So we had these barracks that were basically like corrugated steel, you know, kind of like temporary barracks that people were living in.
And so you're in Cuba, right?
So the middle of the summer, that's exactly what I did, man.
I just crank that AC like as low as it would go and I put like all my sweats on like all my PT sweats.
And then when I would go out to like, you know, it's like a Saturday, so I'm not on duty or whatever.
And I would go out to the defact to go get to go get food.
I would forget that it's hot outside.
So I'd feel like have all my sweats on.
And then I'd take one step outside.
Like, oh no, I've been a horrible decision.
That's like run.
Yeah.
That's change.
That's how it happens like in Arizona.
It'll be like 100 to 10 outside.
It's like frigid cold.
Then all of a sudden you walk outside, you go, oh, crap, never mind.
Yeah.
This is why I feel like I've adapted to the desert here, which is, yeah, 79 is kind of warm,
but it's also about 25 to 35 degrees cooler than it is outside.
And I think that's what you need is you need that element of distinction.
But I'll be honest.
I find it a little annoying when it's hyper aced.
So if I go to a store and it's 115 degrees outside and then they're acing it down to 61 degrees or something, it's annoying because among other things, it means I have to wear long sleeves outside because I'm going to be going into the deep freeze anytime I go to a store.
It just the contrast gets a little annoying.
I can't stand that about Arizona.
Arizona, it's like you're too hot outside and you're too cold inside because everybody runs the AC at like 65 in Arizona.
It's obscene.
74 that's comfortable you don't have to wear sweatshirts and all the stuff inside and then outside you get well acclimated
I mean hey here's the thing over a scene is crazy but at least we're not dying in mass like that's true like there in europe that's true
well could I before we close out because I know we're getting to time I've got to read this take from uh Sarah salviander on X it's so perfect
where she just she writes about the heat wave she talks about in Europe she talks about how in
France apparently already a thousand people, like a thousand people have died because of excess heat.
And she writes, and yet they're still not allowing AC.
And she writes, you can't squash the religious impulse.
If you remove God, it will just manifest in other ways.
In secular religion, there is an abundant guilt and atonement, but little love and forgiveness.
The rituals of atonement are harsh, sometimes to the point of death.
mercy, you deserve no mercy.
The earth will not take the punishment for your sins as Christ did.
You will.
You are the human sacrifice for the sins of humankind.
So that gets me thinking a funny thing, which would be we're used to, in Christianity, we'll have Lenton fast.
So, Jack, you know, we can't have meat on Fridays.
Actually, I'm a fan of the total meat fast during Lent, because that's what it traditionally was.
We're used to fasting from certain foods or a certain conduct.
would it actually be a sound religious fast
to just fast from a sea for a period of time?
Not in Arizona.
What if we did anyway?
I mean, the desert,
the earliest Christian monks,
they went and they lived in the desert.
They were just chilling out there.
John the Baptist,
he went and lived in the desert.
That would be like,
because Ramat on the East Coast is,
like, it's cold during Lent.
So would I have to fast from heating?
I think that would be a very traditional.
That would be a very traditional way of...
I would do it.
I wouldn't do it for my kids, but I would do it.
I kind of want to try this now.
Turn off.
I could turn off the AC in my apartment.
That's actually a really good.
This could be a fun experiment.
This could be a fun experiment.
Yeah.
I turn off my AC in my apartment and I see if I die.
That is on live stream.
You have to live stream.
Oh, I don't sure I want to live stream.
The stream just ends because his whole.
Yeah, because Andrew would be like, hey, does anyone check on Blake today?
He didn't show up for work.
Honestly, the scariest thing I'm thinking of is how much, like, horrifying, like, bacterial growth would happen if it was like, if I was in a place that was 110 degrees and also reasonably humid.
Wait, well, you could still have circulation.
No one saying you can't have circulation.
Yeah, you can still have deodorant, Blake.
And deodorant, yes.
Sorry.
Oh, my gosh.
On that note, he's got me thinking of it.
bacteria.
Yeah.
Deodorant fats.
Take us home, Jack.
That's actually a sacrifice for everyone around Blake.
Yeah, exactly.
That would be a heck of a punishment.
A.
You guys could just keep telling you about your dreams.
You guys are all dreaming of this to happen.
The AC-less full man-musk, Blake unleashed on the world.
Oh, gosh, that's is really weird to say.
The sacrifice.
See, yeah.
See, Jack's kids are on board with it now.
There are a side.
Jack-Jack.
All right, Jack, what do you think about this?
So Mr. Blake, he's still here, he's half listening.
Mr. Blake says, what if we do for Lent next year?
Now, he's saying air conditioning because he lives in Arizona, it's very hot.
But for us during Lent, it's cold.
What if we did no heat in our house for all of Lent?
Do you want to try that?
Yeah.
Yeah, you think Mama would like that?
Yes.
Yeah, that'll work really well.
All right, good.
You can be the one to tell her.
We're going to build our job.
spiritual discipline. We're going to get closer to God and the Holy Spirit. We're going to,
we're going to sacrifice for spiritual discipline. All right, Jack. Fair enough. Take us home,
brother. Ladies and gentlemen, go out there and commit more thought crime.
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