The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 137 — $20 Burritos? South Park, One Year Later?

Episode Date: August 8, 2026

The Thoughtcrime team assembles for a long and dramatic discussion about $20 burritos, and then takes a fond look back at Charlie getting parodied on South Park exactly one year ago. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard. Tonight's edition of Thought Crime. And we're here in our normally stated wonderfully capitalist, wonderfully flowing with milk and honey confines here to do the show. And of course, we haven't had any trouble at all lately causing freakouts all over the internet, whether it be Saturday night, the number one streaming for the entire weekend,

then then a massive war going all over social media. All heck has broken loose. Let's see what's going on. Dios, me, Jack, Psoviak! Taco, Taco Barrizzo, Arriva, Pinto. I wear this against my will. I was just given this. What are you guys talking about?

We are wearing glorious sombreros. I feel like you're making fun of my people. Every week on this show. It's so funny. The internet thinks I'm Jewish. I'm just quarter Mexican. He is in fact a quarter Mexican. Nope, they're not.

But we are talking about barrito. Barito. Why are we talking about burritos? Also, why are three of us wearing sombreros and Mikey is... I have one. It's got a little big. You have to wear it. Okay, fine.

You have to wear that. You can't even tell that this is, because I have yellow behind. I'm taking mine out. Didn't we have more than two of the big ones from before? I think this is a perfectly reasonable distribution of sombrero. We have equal distribution. That is, you know, it's not the size of a sombrero. It's how you wear it.

That's what you do with it. Equal distribution. So for those that are going to listen to this, eventually we are wearing sombreros. Anyway, just that. Well, all of us, except Mikey, who only has, like, a tiny little baby sombrero on. I have a one-fifth of a sombrero. Again, I need sombrero reparations. You guys are too obsessed with size-maxing on your sombrero.

This is the socialist sombrero. You will be happy with less. You will love it. Sombrero maxing. All right. So why are we talking? I don't know what we're talking about this for. Nobody's talking about it.

Well, we should probably talk about. burritos. Yes. I did a thing by accident. I accidentally caused a cover. You know, Jack, you're the Twitter expert. Why did this, why did this go viral? Well, so it's funny.

So, right? So like all last week, I made the comment attacking like crony capitalism last week on the show. And we were going up for Kevin O'Leary. And that became that like people freaked out. And that became like this huge trend. And then, Andrew, you kind of waded in. I would say, like, in a very similar vein with this tweet about a burrito shouldn't cost $20.

And, yes, the very same people who were losing their minds at me, largely neocons, were all starting to attack you. And what, you know, because. I didn't feel very intense. I felt like, how saying, like, you're just saying, like, a breeder shouldn't cost $20. And this is something. And just to, again, just to say right from the very start that people need to remember that the original co-host of this show, Charlie Kirk, was some, this was a topic that he talked about at great length throughout all of 2025 did his sit down interview with Tucker and was walking through all the problems that young Americans are facing. and specifically outlined it by saying that if we want to prevent the rise of Mondami-style candidates, then we need to actually address the economic concerns of young Americans.

And from my perspective, that's all that I was saying. From your perspective, it seems to be in line with what you were saying about burritos, obviously, because Charlie would listen to those same turning point students and college students that would come up at events and different things. and he was hearing their concerns and bringing it forward. That's where Charlie got it from. So when you're saying one of our college students at Turning Point said that to me, it's like, well, yeah, that's exactly what Charlie was talking about, this type of stuff,

or the buy now, pay later, et cetera, that, you know, I learned that from trial, BNPL. You know, I learned that from listening to Charlie. And so just meeting people where they are. And boy, oh, boy, did the neocons freak out. Yeah, so I just want to make one thing really clear. I did not actually feel very attacked. I mean, Mark Theson came after me. I guess, Cry me a River.

Do we have that tweet? He did attack you. Your burritos are included in the meal plan. And I'm like, are they? Like, I was like, guys, I just want to note, we're getting criticism from the chat that Andrew and Mikey are not showing commitment to the bit. I don't even have a timura. The hat on.

Listen, I don't understand what's so hard about wearing a hat. ever have in your head. Andrew, shouldn't you're, don't you, a quarter of, Andrew, a quarter of you is fighting against the other three quarters of you.

I am for most, English and Irish. I will have the world, though. Wow, English, Irish, Mexican. You're like, but my one arm is, is drawn to the sombrero. There we go. And all is right in the world.

I just need. I look so much better than you guys in it. It's crazy. I know. It fits. Yes, because you're so, melts to my head. It's like Arthur in the sword.

Exactly. It just meant me. Okay. So I just want to say, I did not feel that attacked. There were people that made valid points. Joel Berry was like actually the first who I think incidentally made it go viral. So Joel Barry used to work at the Babylon B. I think now he's working with Jeremy Boring on his show. He quote tweeted me basically saying that his wife paid for all of dinner, made dinner for what, like a family of eight or something like that? Like they have a big family, I think, with 20 bucks. And I was like, well, first of all, that's great.

Love cooking for home, often much cheaper and much healthier. But now when you tell me you cooked for a family of eight or 20 bucks, I'm wondering how, like, healthy that was. Anyways. So, I mean, I think it was all like, here's my point. And we could throw up. Look at this. Look at how many headlines have come out of this, by the way. 30.

Show up image 30. Like, this is like, I had prop, Jack, I probably had 20 people. 25 people just text me being like, only thing on my scroll is burritos. And I was like, dang, what happened? It's a very important. Literally all, the only point I was making.

We should, we should probably say that it was what really took this into the stratosphere. And I think got a lot of the news involved was that our great vice president who's kind of been like, he's been taking a little bit of a, of a Twitter break, at least from his spiciness, if you will.

Yeah, he got into this. He came after. He waited right in, and he said, so Mark Deeson, who is, shall we say, horizontally challenged, he would say, I'm surprised to hear. He's not horizontally challenged. Well, no, no, he's, no, you're right. He's horizontally gifted. He's horizontally gifted. Yes, he's horizontally gifted.

Horizontally gifted. And he said, I'm surprised to hear Mark say this. If you've ever met him in person, it's quite obvious the man has never missed a burrito. We can talk about the viral thing. Guys, we need to dive into like the true deeper thought crime element, which is how much should one spend for a burrito? And I was very appalled today to discover that for all this discussion on how much a barita should cost, Andrew, Andrew apparently tips at Chipotle, guys. We need to, we need to confront this fact. Listen, I have a hard for young Americans.

What's the problem? They're not even, some of them aren't even young. Well, I will tell you, that does impact my tip. When I see a young person working hard at a fast food restaurant. Other way around for me. Oh, I'm like, I'm like, no. Are you saying you don't tip if they're not American? No, he only tips Mexicans because he only takes care of his own race.

If I could ask for their cards, their papers. If I could ask for their papers, I would, I'd be like, Save America X. Sorry, no citizenship, no tip. He says he only tips la Raza. I actually only like tip old people that I see. Oh my gosh. Old people working at faster restaurants because I feel bad that they're not like retired or like no.

Some of them like to work. Here's the deal. Yeah. Hey, by the way, Jack, Mikey says I was not attacked. I was praised. I thought you, I didn't see you really get attacked. I had so much back. I mean, I got like.

No, no, no, no. No, no. It's not that you weren't. Obviously, there were a lot of people who had your back, myself included, and many others in the comments. But you were attacked by the needs. i'm saying is they launched an attack on you for saying this and then people came to the for irons burritos became a proxy for iran burritos became a proxy for the iran war because everybody who

pushed the iran war was like pressures aren't that bad it's going to be just fine yeah and i'm like that's not even what i'm talking about i'm talking about covid era inflation printing trillions of dollars and biden biden era inflation okay that's what i was talking about because when you have 30% inflation stack up over like four years. I'm sorry, you're not going to turn that Titanic around in like on a dime. It's going to take some time. Yeah, the Iran war has not probably helped inflation. It's caused a supply side shock on the energy side, which is inflated energy prices, of course. But those, I believe those are temporary and we can get out from under those, especially if we get a peace deal, which I guess people like Mark Tieson don't want a peace deal.

they want full regime change or something. But like the point is, the fact that it became a proxy jack for Iran is absolutely stunning. I actually think, and I haven't thought about this enough until this moment, that the fact that they were so invested in that side of the argument that they were like, oh, just get a meal plan and oh,

you guys are a bunch of babies. You need to cook from home and eat $3.99 burritos filled with fake meat. Like, actually is a tell of how insecure they are about Iran. Yeah, it is. because they know it's unpopular. They know that people are, you know, are, you know, kind of are up in arms about it. Look, I was down in Chattanooga last week at this conference with Barnes and Viva Fry, Rich Barris. And people were, and there's like a just a grassroots conference, people from all over the country came in, and people were coming up to me saying, what,

what is going on with this? Why are we doing this? Why are we in Iran? Where are the mass deportations? That's what we thought we voted for. Where's the golden age? Why are prices on everything up? and and burritos just kind of became this convenient shorthand, I think, for a lot of that frustration. And particularly, you know, you could say it's anti-elite. And for sure, Mark is obviously an elite. And it's, it's, you know, it's, and the memes, yes. I may have made a few. Did you see 28?

Did you see 28? I didn't see this until he did show prep. But this is, which one? Mark, this is Mark, this is Mark, Mark, uh, Mark, uh, Mark, Mark, uh, Mark. Mark Antoinette, 28? Marcia Antoinette's. Yeah, I'm not sure exactly who made this. I did appear on my Twitter profile, though.

You know, so, and it said, let them make burritos. Let them cook their own burritos. Which, by the way, and it does need to be said that every time I bring this up, that Marie Antoinette actually never said that. And in fact, she was actually known as a woman of great charity at the time. and the communists have really just be smirched her good name. And, you know, she actually doesn't deserve that. But Mark Teeson does. So that's why it's there.

All right. Yeah, J.D.'s tweet. And then, you know, I was actually reacting. Okay. So here, and you should chime in on this, Mikey. And Blake, actually. My whole point was that it is political malfeasance not to acknowledge the real lived experience of your voters. So you might think that everybody is a bunch of.

of whiny babies that just need to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, which in general, there is a place for that kind of correction. But Blake and I, we spoke to these kids. These are good kids. They're mostly Christian kids that we were talking to. And a lot of them are economically illiterate. Like, we've got to work on economic literacy in this country. But like, second of all, like, they're really trying hard. They're doing all the right things. And it was a simple throwaway comment. Like, I don't know. It's still expensive because, like, you know, it feels weird that a burrito cost 20 bucks. And then, like, you know, everybody's freaking out.

But I think it's, we got to address the needs, wants, and concerns, anxieties of younger voters if we have any hope of recapturing them in the coalition. Well, we do, but I go back and forth on this in truth because even if it's really obnoxious when Dan Crenshaw, like, there's a sort of male-to-male transsexual aspect of us that manifests where they have to be like, I'm such a man and you're writing baby. kids can't you need your avocado toast and your burrito and like they do this very performative thing and it's very annoying but it is also true that in fact if you want to get ahead in life one of the fastest things you can do is spend less on fast food and a huge reason that young people actually are not getting ahead economically is they objectively compared to prior generations blow more of their money on stupid stuff so they blow more of their money on fast food and especially delivery just if you want you know use DoorDash and

Instacart and all of that you can easily bleed yourself to death just too much delivery and then they do sports gambling if you're running that at a negative which you almost certainly are because you get banned from the apps if you make money off them if you're doing that if you're doing other if you're doing much of crypto speculation on stupid coins like that go to zero and then you blow money on drinking with your friends you blow money on infinity other things you can buy online, you run out of money.

And then you say, oh, I ran out of money and I'm poor and, like, we need socialism as a solution. I do think we need the ability to confront that and say, like,

this is a fixable problem that a lot of people refuse to fix. And we should reject demagogue politics that say otherwise. I can, so I guess my response to that is, like,

I can remember when burritos were a dollar. And I remember being, being in college and, like, a burrito, We're like not a big fancy burrito, but like one of those, like the value menu was a thing. And I definitely remember when burritos or, you know, something McDonald's have the dollar menu.

So you remember it was the dollar venue, but then the dollar menu became the value menu. And then the value and I even know if they have that anymore. So this idea that, you know, our country has become more expensive and some of these goods have become more expensive. It's just true. It's just obviously true that this isn't something you can just kind of buy with like pocket change anymore and you could just grab like a quick I'm not saying it's healthy I'm not saying it's like you know anything that that you should be doing and yes you know you you do have to do that sometime

but people also forget I think a lot that when you cook at home you know there's a time cost involved with that and when you're if you're young if you're working and you're going to school at the same time or if you have internships that you're you know how much time do you have left for cooking I'm not saying it takes a long time to do that I'm just saying that it's much easier to grab and go some food and go do that. On the flip side, you know, a lot of people were pointing out, I saw as well, they're like, oh, just have your wife cook. And it's like, well, a lot of young people aren't getting married either.

And they have problems with that as well. So you have all of these compound problems, you know, or should I say multi-layered problems, kind of stacked together, almost like a five-layer problem that they're dealing with. and a three cheese solution right around the corner and it just exploded the burrito exploded and that's why the burrito beef the burrito beef has taken over i will know i've been calling it the great burrito debate of 2026 i will know i will know credit where it's due i got that from trace galliger when he came on today people are saying i remember when a burrito was a dollar or two dollars and i would just note that we have had culinary inflation in the u.s and so the burrito you have when you were a kid was at Taco Bell and it was crap. And I decided to check. And the cheapest burrito at Taco Bell is still a buck 50. And it's a basic

cheesy bean and rice burrito and I bet it is nasty. Is that a barrito? Is that a soft taco? Taco Bell is nasty. I'm just going to say. It's a burrito. Wait, does that have zero protein in it? It is a cheese bean and rice burrito. You can get a regular bean burrito for a buck 99. I think the cheapest one you can get

that has some form of meat. They have the cheesy double beef burrito for $2.99. 299 is not bad So we had to actually do some research and see if $20 burritos were actually a thing I'm going to say affirmatively they are I don't think that they are because you tip 40% on all of your Chipotle orders So this was interesting we have the video right

I don't know which number it is but we actually took the team For a burrito trip to Chapotle today but I have to say this is what was very fascinated about this experiment. And I think, Jack, you went and got your own burrito, correct? I did, but I did not go to Chapo Alto. I went to Kidobel. Yeah, which both had a salmonella. So much better.

Okay, so clip six is, you can follow, follow some of the team down to Chapo'et. We did an experiment and wanted to see what the price. I hadn't eaten in a Chipotle in a long time. I know you could do it like all the time. You had your double rod. I eat it. I ate it yesterday. Yeah.

Well, the way to... And today. And the day before that, actually. SOTS-S-S. Let's play. Richard Potley. We're about to run an experiment. Can you narrate this, please?

There we go. That's got Sam. That's Blake looking at his phone. We just said. We've got a bunch of hungry boys. Recently in college. They had to get blocked. Did you get Glocked in the way?

All right. So the menu... All right. It's a reveal. Like 11 blocks. I think we have a receipt for here. Yeah, we do. Now I,

as a lot. I didn't know. They charge you extra for the tortilla now. Yeah, but still. All right, 12 bucks. That's probably going to be the cheapest one. 1162. That's the cheapest one so far.

It's like a chicken burrito. They have a special. They have like honey and chicken brittal. See, there's like 16, 17 bucks. Yeah. So here's a. So for people at home, can you guys read the various prices off here? Yeah.

It's like 11, 11, 11, 16, 15. And I think the most expensive one was 17, but that somebody got like a double protein, like a double chicken. And then there was a chips and guac order on one of them. Anyway, so here's what I would say. It was interesting about this. So it came to around 20. It came to less than 20. If you got chips and guac and extra meat and guack and guack and quack.

your burrito. Okay, so here's, here was the order. So somebody got guac in their order and that jacks it up like $2.50 when you add guac. And then somebody got extra protein. So that jacked it up. And then somebody got chips and guac on the side. So if you did any of those things, you're at about 16, 17 bucks. Now, what's interesting about this. So our little Chipotle here is not in a bad part of town, but it's also not a high rent part of town. And Danny was saying that he, just hit Chippole up in Scottsdale and they automate the tip at the end. So you know when you swipe your card and it goes, how much would you like to tip? And it gives you the options, according to Danny are like 20 is the lowest, 20, 25, 30 percent tip, which we can get into. But if I, at this particular Chipotle, they don't even offer a tip option. So you can't, I ask the guy, said, can I tip. And he goes, nope, we don't, you can tip online. If you order online, you can tip, but you can't tip if you buy in the store. I'm just baffled.

But had you tipped at 20%, we would have multiple orders over $20. Okay, but I don't feel that's very... I just don't think that's a compelling argument. It's too excessive to buy burritos if I voluntarily give more money to this person who is not in a normally tipped field. Tax and tip added on, you will easily get over $20. I'll say that, so I took a...

Checked it out with key doble. and at Kidoba, which is so much better than Chipotle, that, so mine came to my normal, yeah, it's obviously better, that it, just my normal burrito order without any extras, any drink, no combo, anything like that, was 1685, and then if you, yeah, if you had,

if it's with a 20% tip, because I think we agreed we were going to look at 20% tip, it would, it would just be over $20. Yep, yep. And that's without delivery fee. And by the way, by the way, What's crazy is, so we've got a bunch of people sending us images of like different Chipotle menus. They are actually pricing it based on like if they're in a high rent district or whatever.

So like, so where we were at, the most expensive steak burrito was like $11.95. And that's just that's before tax and tip and all that stuff. But in San Francisco, L.A., Scottsdale, those are $14.95. Yeah. No, that's about right. And they offer the tip option just to like make you feel bad. All right, I'm so excited to share with you guys C-15 from Fadi-15, the first emerging essential fatty acid to be discovered in more than 90 years. It's an incredible scientific breakthrough to support our long-term health and wellness. And you guessed it, healthy aging. Fattie 15 co-founder Dr. Stephanie Van Watson discovered the benefits of C-15 while working with the U.S. Navy to continually improve the health and welfare of older dolphins, believe it or not, based on over 100.

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by going to fatty 15.com slash Kirk and using code Kirk at checkout. I saw this Reddit online of a guy that found a receipt from like 2015 from Chipotle. And he was like, this is how much my burrito cost. So like 11 years ago at this point. And for a chicken burrito is 695. So I do think we're at this point. And I think both Jack and Blake are right. think young people need to manage their spending better, right? Yeah. We do love to spend money.

I'll be the first to say it. But also, like, prices have gone up on things, and the quality has gone down. And so you will get a more expensive product at Taco Bell, and it's even worse ingredients than it was, like 10 years ago. And so not only is it bad financially for young people, it's bad, you know, just for their health. It's almost like two things are happening. But also like, name more and things are getting, so, you know, so two things are exacerbating this one. Yeah, Jack, you brought this up earlier, like BNPL.

Name another generation that's had to like start relying on basically splitting their pizza order into 12 different payments. This was a huge deal with credit cards. When I was going to college, they were just handing out credit cards to everybody. Yeah, credit card. It is torsious. Huge. It was the biggest thing. I actually, Scott Besson was here today, Andrew, interviewed him and Blake.

And I actually, last time I saw him, I brought up BNPL. And I was like, I think the administration should ban BNPL for multiple reasons. Based. Like one, it's awful. I was like, and two, a lot of the companies that are operating after PAY, Klarna, like, one's an Australian company, one's a Swedish company. I was like, these are foreign governments prying on young people. Like, this is totally tortuous.

And he was like, that's a good point. I think we need to do that. And it's totally like the administration. should do that. I think there needs to be some steps towards figuring out how to make an economic reality and a future for young people. But I mean, I think you're both right.

Like, I don't think there's any... Here's the bigger thing. So, Jack will agree with this. This all became a proxy for Iran. Like, so the... Oh, yeah. But then it also became sort of a proxy for the DSA rise of DSA and socialism

and Mamdaniism versus like capitalism as well. Right? And so what I was not doing was suggesting that somehow, thank you. That's beautiful. It's worth throwing up. The chat, people in the chat are now making memes of Mexican Andrew. Yeah. I don't get the joke. It kind of like you in that, actually.

It just looks like regular Andrew. That's just a photo of you from last week. I don't get the joke here. Just Andrew from last week. Wow. Okay. You really are Mexican. Wow.

When you add the mustache on, you totally, you got the Sanchez on there that you can definitely see it. All right. So here's the point, though. I'm not making an argument that any of this is. Friendly, Sanchez. Is for an argument in favor of socialist policies and like government controls and price fixing, none of that. What I am saying, though, is if you do not talk to the voters where they are at and if you are distracted with form. policy abstractions and adventurism, then people that voted for you to deliver them better economic

conditions are going to be frustrated. They are not going to either vote for you. They will opt out of voting or they might, some of them, vote for the socialist. And so we as a conservative movement have to have a message of hope, optimism, and that our ideas are actually working. Because I actually think they are working, but we're not talking about them enough and we're not focusing on it enough. And if everybody just tells Gen Z that they're a bunch of entitled little brats and they need to like eat crap, you know, horse meat passed off as burrito meat, then that's not going to work. It's not going to cut it. And you can do both at the same time. You can tell them they've got it. It won't cut it. But what we do 100% see, people do react to the broader zeitgeist. And so if we're

going to say we need to listen to voters, a lot of voters are essentially regurgitating a thing. They are already hearing from influencers. And that includes influencers on the right. So one of the reasons people would just say grocery prices are way up is because they hear people on X all exclaiming that grocery prices are way up and like that doesn't mean there's no reality to it like beef definitely got a lot more expensive in the last year. Walsh is claiming that groceries are up 30% okay what's overall inflation since 2020 it's probably about that yeah and what's wage increased since then probably similar to that like what what are the numbers pull it I can go check yeah no it it I listen

I'm not in the same financial boat as a college student gladly, happily. But even I am experiencing the squeeze. And that everything is expensive. Dude, it cost a hundred and something dollars to fill up our gas tank the other day. I was like, what? What is going on? By the way, everybody has their own threshold at which point they go, hold on a second. Yeah.

You know what I mean? So depending on where you are on the ladder, economic ladder. And Cerno put that, I think, on social media. is that as soon as gas hits over $100 to fill up my tank, I notice. And I go, oh, come on. So, like, $100 is his threshold. So young people's threshold is going to be far, far lower and far more acute than somebody who's 30 or 40 and has a career.

Well, it's, again, you're talking about a decision. This is the system I was talking about the five, the five-layer burrito that young Americans find themselves in because it's not just the price of burritos, right? It's the price of rent. it is the being kept out of the workforce because of migrants and particularly anti-white anti-male policies that are in there. It is the feeling that they're kept out of the dating market or starting a family. Yeah, the housing market. Again, just so many various things.

And so we wrote about this in because we talk about like why are we in a socialist revolution. It's like all of this is why we're in a socialist revolution right now. And it's why socialist candidates keep winning. And what's really interesting is you go back and we go back and we go. the book, The Unhumans about communist history. And in the Bolshevik, excuse me, in the Bolshevik revolution, what did they campaign on? Well, they campaigned against an unpopular foreign war, which is World War I. They campaigned on land reform because of the price of housing. And they campaigned on the price of food. And so Lenin's slogan, which he said again and again,

was peace, land bread. Peace land bread. And it's like, aren't we seeing the exact, same things play out right now. It sounds like El Cayette, what is his like money out of politics? He's got a three point plan, money in your wallet, and Medicare for all. So all I can remember that he said was that,

was that he's like, these Republicans, they can't say my name right. So let me tell you something. You keep my damn name out of your mouth if you can't say, oh, oh,

off. Is that, it. Oh, oh, The answer is, I don't care. All right, hold on. We've got Zuzu's Pettel says there's nothing more budget friendly than the $5

rotissory chicken at Costco. So true. Can we take a moment to appreciate? If you can afford a Costco membership. Costco's still a cost of membership, though. But, I mean, honestly, I never. Here's what everybody kept saying, you got to cook, you got to cook, you got to cook. And I was like, thinking back to my high school or my college life, I cannot for the

life of me remember cooking. Like, not once, I don't think. But that's just part of it. Part of what is pushing back here is like how to some extent this is fake that actually these are all easily fixable problems. And this is why I do get a little worried if we just say we have to listen to this and have no pushback whatsoever. Is that like, nobody's saying that. Well, but no, but it kind of is. Like there's definitely like there's certainly a take where when some people just pointed out actually like a lot of places you can get breritos are not that expensive.

And they'll just kind of blow up and it to be like, oh, really great message you're going. have there for young people. And like, then the tone basically is just you have to let people complain about anything. And if the truth is, is that you can actually go to a grocery store and get very affordable items, actually cooking is very easy to do. Easier than ever to learn at this point because there's YouTube guides, there's a million ways to figure it out online. And people just prefer, and you actually have more free time than your parents did 30 years ago. Like, there's actually, like, it's really easy to do. And people just choose not to do it because they like to complain.

And there's something to be said that we should push back on the fact that people like to complain. Totally wrong. Okay, but I'm right. No. No. Yeah, because I mean, I mean, I certainly agree that people do spend too much time scrolling, but it's like, I don't think people, I think that if you go around telling people that

they should just suck it up and that their concerns don't matter, like that's why Syed wins. and Mondami and Francesca, I hate Thanksgiving in Wisconsin. That's what allows those type of candidates to win. Yeah, I mean, that's my big concern. And, you know, here's what I would say. I believe the free market is the way out of this, but we've also got to confront that do we live in a free market?

contributed to the problem with foreign adventurism, runaway spending, not getting serious about the debt. If you want to know what really drives inflation, it's printing money. It's more dollars in the system than there are goods. So more dollars chasing fewer goods in the interest in terms of COVID. Also war. And war, you got to print money for war.

By the way, war causes issues like we're seeing in the Strait of Hormuz, where you got an energy shock. So these things are policy-based, but bigger than anything. And when you're riding a $40 trillion debt and you have a $2 trillion deficit every year, you're printing money, you're borrowing money, you're putting dollars into circulation. that's not matched by increased productivity. This is why Milton Friedman was like, set it and forget it. You should increase the money supply every year by 3% and get the economist out of the money supply

because that's what ultimately causes inflation. But I mean, the fastest way to get inflation down right now is energy costs. And the fastest way to get rid of that is to end this war. And if we didn't start this war to begin with, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in right now. So is this a reason to debate really just about the Iran war? Probably. It's about that and arguing about affordability.

No, but the reason it's so intense. The reason it's so intense is the Iran war. Well, I would also add, like, don't forget, like, Charlie went on Tucker's show last year, like almost a year to the day. And he was like, there are radical problems facing the younger generation. And if solutions aren't given soon, they will look to radical solutions for their radical problems. And so that's where you see on the left, like Mom Donnie immediately won because he was offering radical solutions. And on the right, you can see radical solutions as well. well. But it like if you do not offer a solution, they will look elsewhere and they'll look for

a speedy solution. And oftentimes that's a radical one. But it was like, yeah, it's, well, so it's important to play back the tape here and remember that moment because you bring up the, a year ago with Charlie, right? We have to remember that the Democrats did this in 2024. They were like, the economy's fine, everybody. It's fine. It's just the media is talking about it too much. Well, no, we had four years of inflation that was, to your point, so that 30% inflation. People were reeling from the sticker price of everything. And the market in 2020. And so Charlie was saying, hey, we won in 24, but this is wet cement.

It's not, we don't get these votes guaranteed for the rest of these people's lives. We have to deliver on our promises, which is we've got to bring affordability back. We've got to bring growth back because, I mean, candidly on some of these stuff, whether it's, if it's like beef, dropping beef prices is one thing, dropping egg prices. But you don't want deflation. in the economy. That's a disaster. So what you have to do is you have to grow your way out of a previous inflationary period. So you have to unshackle the economy and growth. It felt like we were on that path for a while. And then it felt like we got distracted and sidetracked with Iran and other things. So the point of making this argument is not that we want socialism. We don't want price fixing. We

don't want 30% off at the grocery store in Momdani's case. It's going to drive bodegas out of business and cause, you know, it's going to cause shortages. And, all kinds of other disruptions and they're going to seize more and more power in that in that city. We don't want that because that ends in disasters. We want to unshackle the economy and I think we've got to start educating young people on basic economic principles because right now I think they think the solution is taking the minimum wage 20 bucks an hour. They think the solution is for giving student loans. They think the solution is all kinds of government fixes, which is just going to further distort the economy. Well, and there are things the government can do, by the way, like mass deportations.

That will actually help phenomenally with the labor market. That'll help with the housing market, housing prices, rent prices. So now that those pressures, right, the, the light, now you're peeling away layers of the burrito because, hey, we are opening up the job market. Hey, we're opening up the dating market, too, by the way. We're opening this up. Now, perhaps mass deportations would lead to more, you know, higher prices for like DoorDash or Uber Eats or something like that because there's so many illegals that use that. and if there's lower, you know, if there's lower availability of labor for that, then you would perhaps get higher prices on delivery, right?

So that could certainly be something that I could see. But at the same time, you're also opening up jobs. If people want to do that as a side hustle, then you could take advantage of that too. If you're someone who's, you know, who wants to make an extra buck while you're driving around, then you could go do that as well. Yeah. Well, can self driving cars pick up a door dash order? I guess you'd have to like, you'd have to bring it out and like,

no, they'll be able to. I mean, I imagine they will. They just roll up. The window comes down. The employee goes out, drops it in. Like there's a million ways to do that. In the next like five years,

DoorDash as it's, as it exists right now, will not even be a thing. Like the food will not be picked up at restaurants. It's going to be made in these massive warehouses that are like data centers by robots. And then a car will come to the warehouse, pick up the order. And so these restaurants will white label and white list basically these warehouse in these machines to make.

This is already how a huge number of the DoorDash restaurants are. They're just in a random room. They're not a place you can go other than for Dorash. They don't have like a retail store. No. So the machines have the recipe. Yeah, they have the recipe for like the burger from Red Robin. And so they will make it right there on the spot.

And then they'll box it, bag it. And then it's waiting to be picked up by a by a DoorDash driver. and the only employee that would be needed is to transfer it from point A into the car. Now here's the black pill. We're going to have robot Ubers. We're going to have robot door dash. We're going to probably have robot making the food in these kitchens.

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So for the time being, we're attacking them, releasing them back to the wild. I'm so on track with what Blake just said, though. I am, I think I posted about this this morning that why is there no serious political concerted effort being made to fix legal immigration? Think about it. Even the Save America Act. Everybody's like, we need the Save America Act. I agree because we let in all these foreigners. But we really need to stop letting in all these foreigners.

I mean, it's really, the really sad thing is it sometimes pointed out, I think this was pointed out during Lindsay Graham's funeral where he said, you know, he kept going, getting higher and higher and thinking like, who's really in charge of things? And then you discover no one's in charge. And I think immigration is a lot like that. Like, you think there's someone deep in the system who's thought about, okay, yeah, we're letting all of these immigrants, but this is going to have demographic effects and wage effects. And, you know, it's going to have this impact on the country, but it's worth it for this cynical or manipulative reason. And then actually the truth is, they're all dumb. and they don't understand what they're doing. So what you literally have is you have business people who think, I need people to fill these jobs. They don't think, well, what's the long-term effect on this country? They don't think, are we importing a bunch of people who will vote for socialism and take my business away? Don't even think about it.

They just, it's truly, it is truly mindless and retarded. I went to this dinner in D.C. a couple weeks back. And it was like a month ago, I guess. It was right after CLS. So, and I met this. this congressman and he's actually one of the sponsors of the Digni Dodd act and play the music play music Digny Dodd They don't have it Mexican

Come on guys You got a nod So Dignity Dignidad I got it yeah We're not getting the human capital we used to in this country Tell us about this dinner in D.C. Tell us about this dinner in D.C. The guy just was like We need labor

we can't find white kids literally this is said we can't find white kids to man the farms in indiana and i said well okay but like you've been saying that for you know since 1965 like you've got literally there's a hundred million more people in the country now with if you count immigrants their kids their grandkids then they're otherwise would have been we have a hundred million more people on our population list because of 1965 and because of 1990 and you still It's not like there's more farms. As a matter of fact, there's fewer. And as a matter of fact, there are more like Hispanics working them.

There's more automation. There is more tractors. There is more everything that should make the labor needs that you think you need less. And you still can't find workers. When is it going to stop? Nothing blackpills me. Like just seeing that the Chinese now have boring office cubicle environments where the Chinese guys are driving their agricultural machines in an air-conditioned room. Like a robot.

And then meanwhile in the U.S., you can find videos of guys driving tractors that don't even have a cab on the top still. That's too black pilly. That's too black pilly. I know. It's going to. Too much black pill, Blake, there's a, okay. My point is that labor, and then you had Senator Curtis. Freaking Senator Curtis.

This guy is such a piece of work. I cannot for the light, Black, or Jack, did you cover this story this week? Senator Curtis. So the states, the state, I haven't talked about it on air, but. I've got tweeted about it. The states get to determine how many visas they get and specialty visits. So you're taking it away from the federal government. Imagine how many visas you think like Blue California when they get to count all those people in the census for apportionment and for federal grants are going to let in.

And then you got the Supreme Court that gives them all birthright citizenship if they drop a baby off here. The whole thing is so ridiculous. But do you think AI is going to make it better or worse? Yeah, we're going to have a permanent underclass. of like these cheap foreign labor that we just let in. I think it's scarier than that. I think it's scarier than that. We might get in a reality,

I think there's a lot of people who will say, we just need to ban the AI stuff to make sure we have jobs for our imported underclass. So we'll reverse it. Yeah. I mean, this is the take of a lot of people is basically like we need to have these bottom wrong jobs.

And our lives will be worse as a result. Tucker's take is that he wants to ban self-driving semi-trucks, right? Isn't that like, he hates self-driving trucks? That's not even going to be a thing. Okay. So I'm okay with that. I mean, I'm not because we're literally going to have hundreds of people die in here to make sure that it's going to end up being a net good. I do genuinely think it's going to be a neck good.

And it's not that actually. There's where do those people? I have to, I mean, I think it's not as a. There's going to be massive drones. Very, very careful with anything when it comes to trucking. It's not going to be a truck. They do the same thing at the ports. It's not going to be a truck.

There's literally going to be, there's going to be a massive drone that will fly. to the ports of Long Beach and it'll pick up a storage container that has to be delivered to Scottsdale, Arizona, and it will fly adjacent to the freeway, and it will just go, and it'll be one-tenth of the cost, it'll be much faster, and they're going to be flying. It's not going to be on the road. Isn't that going to take a huge amount of energy? No. Really? No. It's all going to be nuclear energy. This is really getting ambitious. No, dude. There's a company right now that's doing this. They're building these massive drones. Can you imagine though just like over your head all the time? No, it's nuclear powered for their like the batteries inside of it. Okay.

Operate it or the machine. Whatever. So I mean, if you're going to pick up like a giant cargo container, that's like a. Jack, make your point though. Why are you against, why are you against? For example, the Longshoremen are, they fought this too. Remember automation at the ports? They, and Trump agreed with them.

He ended up back in their play to make sure it's still manned and it's not all robotic and stuff like that. That so here's yeah so so number one we we have enough problems with trucks on the road right now because of all the migrants that have been given these these trucking contracts and trucking licenses who obviously shouldn't have them. They're getting them from like diploma mills and it's killing people. You know, self-driving semis that you know can it get there eventually? Sure. But I think it's something you got to be very, very careful with in terms of technology. And at the same time, we. We know that if you don't have a college degree that driving a truck is one of the fastest ways that you can get on your feet. And we tell people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Driving a truck is a great way to actually do that. And then when you turn around and say, oh, but also we should allow that industry to be destroyed, it's like, what are we doing, guys? Well, okay. But then we could do it far more easily. And we could say we could have unlimited jobs for them. We should just ban, like, construction machinery. and make everyone do it with shovels. You have a Tesla, right?

I have a Tesla. The self-driving is so cool. It's so cool and also incredibly safe. Yeah. Like, it is so safe. I can, I will trust myself texting and driving. So, I shouldn't say this. Fod's, not supposed to do that.

I know, but like, it's so, and this is what the technology is now. Like, imagine the technology five years from. But that's driving it, that is totally different from driving a semi, plus, by the way, making the deliveries in every place that you have to pull up to. You've got, you've got parking, you've got a regular, you know, it parks. Loading docks and all sorts of things. I just think that that's cool.

And I know a lot of people who have Teslas that do it as well, and I'm not knocking it. I'm just saying that a semi is like, it's like an entirely different category. How many road accident deaths do you think the U.S. has in a given year? Isn't it like 25,000? 45,000 or 50,000. It's almost 50,000. But that's not just. just, I mean, yeah, okay, fair enough. Which country is the most? So Faz is saying

semis are a generation away, too much money, no one will insure it too precision based. I don't know. Tesla has a semi. They have a semi that is like, they do have a semi. Yeah, and they've been shown it off. And they're working on perfecting it so that it can do deliveries. So I don't know, man. And then their robot's supposed to come out this year too, or next year. Faz says, oh, the optimist to mess up and drop off at a loading dock and lose a payload. I don't know. set up a cascade of issue. I'm incredibly optimistic about it.

I think it's going to, I think it'll end up being fine. But also, like, there's going to, you're going to have, like, you're not going to buy a robot that can, like, cooking clean for you in your house. Oh, you got to show these pictures. I totally think you will. And then also, like, I know a guy who owns one of the companies that I was just talking about earlier. That makes the, it makes the food in these massive warehouses. And then door dashers will come pick up. I know a guy that.

owns and operates like a massive company like that he told me he's like by the time your kid is like 13 years old he every single one of his meals will come from a warehouse and it'll be healthier cheaper and better and i was like i don't know if i like that i'm not sure i like it either i what i do worry about here is just it's the flattening of everything so i was actually just reading a book review that was pretty interesting it talked about how if you're like if you're a mom today, like you still do basically the same things the mom, your mom did for you. So you put on music for the kid, you like look up things if they ask questions. You, uh, you make food, like, you do all the stuff or, you know, you, you send, you know, you send, you send photos. So like,

let's say you wanted to send, like, let's say you wanted to put on music for your kid. Even 25, 30 years ago, that means you pull out the CD or you pull out of the cassette tape. You put it into this machine. You make sure the machine is working right. And it starts playing. Now it's, you hit a button on your phone. You want to send photos of your kid to family members 30 years ago. You literally print out a photo, which you probably had to go to a shop to get, and then you put it in an envelope, and you pull out a pen, and you write on that envelope, and you mail it to somebody. Now you push some buttons on your smartphone. And now all, that's how all things are. You do everything through your smartphone, everything through a computer. And I feel like we're doing that with the robots.

It's going to be, you want to get food of the robot warehouse and stuff. You want to order a delivery of anything. You go on to Amazon on your phone. and you bring in something from the robot warehouse. And it's like everything is just from a robot warehouse. There's something dark about that. There is something dark about it. But I agree. I completely agree.

This is where you get socialist. I was just going to say, I completely agree with you, Blake. And that's why I think we need to be careful about all these things. And also, this is where socialist revolutions come from. Just like I was talking about before, the Industrial Revolution led to the Bolshevik Revolution, because it was the Industrial Revolution. And on the back of that, so much economic upheaval, which is kind of what we're talking about now. And what, Mikey, what your friend, I think our mutual friend was chatting about.

Future vision. That about the future is that people are going to be freaked out. And yes, there have been times in the past where that level of freak out has led to some very, very dark outcomes. Well, I would just say that architecturally speaking, not seeing a bunch of fast food all over the place, I'm not super mad about it. that's just me personally and you're still going to have sit down restaurants where you go and sit down and eat so you're this is this is pure what if that's also robot food what if it's just robots in the kitchen i i'm not i don't think it's gonna i mean okay it could be robot like line chefs but i think there will still be like a chef chef at like i think it'll be fine for a very long time and i think that we're going to figure out how to live with it and like i think that our economy is going to reward what works and it's not going to reward what doesn't work i think successful families instead of having a robot made will want to actually hire a person

because they want like interpersonal relationship. I'm not so sure about that. I think about how reasonably people accept things that I think are actually not great, like the degree where they 100% outsource parenting to a screen. You see people so eager to do that and...

So here's where... Just turn on Miss Rachel. Just turn on Miss Rachel. I know. I just think there's a whole movement against that because I at least with my friend group with my that have kids i mean everybody's trying to limit screen time as much as possible and trying to keep kids active i mean maybe maybe we're the exception not the rule i don't know but where this is really going which is the question uh is that is that there you know Elon musk is talking about ubi and he's talking about you be everybody

the only people that will work in the future are people that want to work and everybody else will be living on a universal basic thing the hot take is we already have that yeah Charlie talked about the UBI stuff too, very early on. This was like end of 24, beginning of 25 too. He brought up, we were literally going by the Long Beach, you know, shipping yards. And he was like, and in five to ten years time, those cranes are going to be operated by AI and computers. Those trucks are going to be operated by AI and computers. He's like, all of the unions are going to be out of job because they just cause headaches.

And he's like, it's going to be epic. And he goes, but it's going to be awful at the same time. He's like, it will lead to a revolution. It's going to be awful. And I was like, well, how do you fix it? He's like, honestly, like, UBI is the simplest, quickest fix. But then you just have a bunch of people suckling off the teat of the, you know, private companies and government that laid them off. They have it in Alaska, though, was the closest example with like oil.

Revolutionary stuff is not coming from people who are in blue collar jobs who are, like, worried about AI replacing them. The biggest source of like true, like, Democratic, like DSA, radicalism, that stuff, it's coming from people who actually have, like, normal jobs in a lot of places, but they kind of wish they had, like, $120,000 a year email jobs or something. Look at who's voting for guys like El Sayed. Yeah. It's affluent white people and third worlders. Yeah, well, affluent is they sell affluent, but often the windows are, like,

a group that really predicts voting for DSA, like 95% level. is like people who have PhDs and then they make between 30 and $60,000 a year, which two people making $60,000 a year if you're a couple, it's actually a perfectly livable income. But it feels like, especially if you have a PhD, they often aspire to hire. And there's a lot of anger that comes from that, a lot of resentment from that.

Those people are usually not at risk of long-term unemployment, but they do feel, like, they feel lower status than they should be. And that drives a lot of rage. And you saw that, I mean, with the Bolshevik revolution, the people leading the Bolshevik revolution were not literal laborers. It was like extremely angry lower elites, like the sons of clergymen, the sons of professors, in some case, the sons of mobility. I love that.

Yeah. And so the leaders, the leaders, which this is what, of course, London referred to as the vanguard of the proletariat. So he's like, the working class are not rising. We need to teach them how to rise, right? And so that's where that's where Lenin comes from. course, it's parodied very well in Animal Farm is the original version, not the new version. And, you know, but at the same time, it does grab purchase and all of these things do end up

finding their ways into their homes. And by the way, this is why, you know, the Midwest, which has been a heavily unionized area, heavily blue-collar unionized area, is now being the testbed for so many of these things. It's why so much of this has come. out of there, whether it's Michigan, whether it's Minnesota, whether it's Wisconsin, you're going to see more. You are absolutely going to see more. Well, I don't know that we got anywhere here, other than the fact that I'm right, it's dumb to ignore the problems of young people. We are going, I still think you're a lunatic for tipping at Chipotle. You tip at a sit-down restaurant, you can tip at a bar,

but if you are just going up to a cash register and giving them money and receiving food, in return, it is weird to tip for that. I am a, I'm a sucker. But I'll say, I'll combine the two, I'll combine the two weeks, man. If you've got a guy like Kevin O'Leary who, you know, made all of his money by destroying Oregon Trail and Carmen San Diego, not through like, you know, war crime against Gen Y, by the way. And not, you know, not actually being productive in society. And he's running, you got him on TV weeping over a golden Rolex that cost $2 million.

And then you've got then like his buddies turn around the next week and they're like, screw you if you don't want to pay $20 for a burrito. Just make one at home. And like you wonder why people are upset and you wonder why young people are turning to a socialist revolution. You are why. Just look in the mirror. You are why.

And that's why we as a movement actually need to be talking about things in terms of the national good. I don't like to phrase the common good. I don't think we should use that. but I think the national good. Like all of these things that we support, they stop at the border. Wait, so it's Kevin O'Leary's fault why somebody can't afford a $20 burrito? This is not what I said.

It's literally not what I said. You know, I didn't. No, he's saying that guys like Kevin O'Leary, when you go and you kind of talk about your $2 million Rolex, it kind of gives it all like a bad look, right? If you're, okay, imagine if you're struggling. You got like $20 bucks in the account. You voted for Trump and you're like, hey, the goal. is coming and you're still struggling. The price are still high. You can't afford burritos. Yeah, you can't afford a burrito. And then Kevin O'Leary is talking about his $2 million

Rolex. I can see why the optics on that are bad. I still want to be a guy that very much celebrate success. Like I celebrate Elon Musk being the first trillionaire. I totally do. I have no problem with billionaires. You know, Zoran, Mom Donnie talking about the, you know, should billionaires exist? No. Absolutely not. We should not become that, that grievance-based culture, that jealousy-based culture, that's what fuels this stuff. But what we need to do is we need to be messaging to young people and saying, you know, to quote Bill Clinton, I feel your pain and I want to help. And we're going to be unleashing all this stuff. We're going to be working with first-time homebuyers. We're going to be unleashing the free market to go build a lot of new homes for young people.

We're going to be deporting illegals that are stealing your homes. We're going to police the streets. So there's more safe neighborhoods you want to live. Like these are the solutions that we actually need to be bring into bear. And we need to have our own message. But I think national is right that when you have when you have people gloating over their wealth at a time of a case shaped economy, which is a lot more rich people are getting rich and a lot more poor people in the middle are getting poor. That the timing is potentially problematic. So I actually think both can be right. And I just I just want to say that we already do put limits on corporations as conservatives. If you if corporations had their way,

They would import millions of foreign illegals and they would just never end, right? Because they want cheap slave labor. And we've already said as a conservative movement, we reject this excess of capital and we want to protect American labor. So there are reasonable things that we can do, right, that are still pro market, pro freedom of capital moving. We also, and by the way, Charlie used to talk about this all the time. It's like, what did we do? What did we get in exchange for hollowing out our industrial base in the Midwest? We got a bunch of cheap crap from China that ends up in a trash heap.

At some point, these are totally fair questions to ask. And we can still celebrate the capital markets. We can still celebrate entrepreneurs and make that happen. But there are things that I think are good to rain in. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. And, yeah, sorry. No, you go out.

I was just going to say, I want to separate, like, morally and politically, like morally, I do think, you know, spending $1.8 million on a watch that money should not be used that way. Like, you can use that money way better. As Christians. As Christians. Like, morally, that is my take. Politically, I just, I'm not really in the business of telling people who have earned their money how to spend their money.

And I also am like, I always want to be careful blaming like a socialist revolution on somebody who's just spending their money the way they want to spend their money. But again, like morally, I, of course. course. Like I have that line in the sand with, with, does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I actually think I would. I would say, though, it's, it's, so I'm sure Elon spends more money than Kevin O'Leary, but also Elon is famous for being facidious, right? So he's, he's, he's famous for like having a, you know, like a one-bedroom apartment and he sold all of his houses and, you know, he's a trillionaire, but he doesn't live like, no, he does have his private jet, which he uses to

go around and conduct his operations, but he doesn't, he's not like on TV. talking about weeping over a two million dollar gold watch right right because you know and and and he makes things he also bought twitter now x that was he did it for i mean charlie would always talk about how we need better it's a national good you're always going to have elites you're always going to have the matthew principle where you know some people just really accelerate and they do a lot of really good things and their wealth is going to accelerate behind them what we want to do is we want to do is want to make sure that they're in, we, I think of it in terms of investments in incentives. And maybe that's taxes, maybe that's grants, whatever. But you want to incentivize capital. You,

you don't want to outlaw people doing free market stuff, but you want to incentivize good movements. So I love this. When Trump was like, okay, car companies, you're going to move your manufacturing facility to Mexico and we're going to lose all these jobs out of Detroit. Well, up yours. I'm going to tear a few 50, 100 percent if you try and sell those cars back to America. And that's the difference That's incentivizing capital. That's national populism. This is globalism versus nationalism. This goes all the way back to 2016, how we used to always talk about this. And so it's this idea of like an international capital system versus I, you know, you asked me the other day on the show, you know, like, well, do you believe in capitalism? Like what do you stand for? I'm like, I'm like, well, national populism. And I guess I guess the way you would you would combine it is just say like a national capitalism, right? So the idea where you support the free market, But you also have borders, you have an identity, you have heritage, you have a country at the same time, and that we're not, we're not pushing these things at the, you know, at the dearth or at the, you know, to the, to the damage of our country, right?

And you look at, listen, Joshua Lysick sitting there with like 15,000 Haitians over in, in Ohio right now, you know. Yeah, totally. I, and by the way, Reagan famously used tariffs to protect national industries. Didn't Nixon do it as well? I know the founders did it. I wouldn't say that Nixon's protectionism was very successful. Nixon went a little overboard on price controls. I would, I would even say that. But what other presidents famously used protection,

use tariffs or whatever to protect? Lincoln Lincoln? Lincoln? Okay. The founders did. The founding generation. Well, the founders did a lot of, they did a lot of tariffs just for revenue. Like, protectionism to cultivate native industry,

definitely a late 1800s thing because you had Britain super dominant, and then the U.S. wants to grow their own manufacturing rather than just, not mercantilism. Sorry, but. It's mostly like cotton and clothing and, yeah. Well, no, I mean, it was just early manufacturing. So, uh, textile, spinning jenny's and all of that stuff. Uh, yeah, you know, it's, and there's other countries that have made that work.

I'm curious on your take. Historically speaking, looking back, has protectionist policies mostly been, have you seen it deployed well? And do you, in general supporter or your general don't support it it can be done well but I would say it the default is it doesn't work great there's a lot of well there's a lot of truck industry there's a lot of political pressure to just turn it into pure rent seeking so you protect a failing business from its own failures and that and there it's so easy to do that examples where it's been successful I mean this is dark to say examples where it's been successful it's often worked in authoritarian countries where you have an authoritarian who can like for who can basically like sabotage any attempt to make it a political racket so

if you're korea south korea did pretty successful protectionism and what they had to do is for example they say we want to develop a car industry in korea and one of the things that they do under their autocracy is they say we're making we're training you so that you can be an export market to other countries so we're not we're basically not going to let you kate just cater to the korean market you have to be able to export and if you're not good at it we're going to like cut this off. And like, you basically have to really, you use it to protect your industry, but if you're using it to just protect it from its own failures, as opposed to just protect it enough to grow and become competitive and like it can't be, you know, sabotaged or dumped or overwhelmed by a richer

foreign competitor, it's not going to work. Okay, but what about like US steel, for example? We have to make our own steel. We got to make our own vitamin C. We got to make our own cars and rockets and military good. Once again, the national good. It's, you have to be, what I would say is you have to be careful because it's very easy for that, again, to just turn into really expensive rent seeking. Protecting failing businesses. Yeah, you're protecting an obsolete business that shouldn't be getting by anymore. But that's why you want a lot of competition domestically as well. So like basically, you want dodge. If you're doing protectionism, it should be for the sake of allowing you to build up an industry that is then globally competitive. And that is what China has been successful at. That is what

Korea has been successful at. But if you want, I mean, there are plenty of countries where they just do that protectionism to protect their local company that is useless and the product is garbage and you're forced to buy this garbage product. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, I'll tell you guys, speaking to China right now, one thing I noticed in Europe, dude, there's Chinese cars everywhere. And I'll tell you what else.

The technology, so we were doing like Uber and sometimes we get picked up in them. And I was like, oh, let's let's try it out. the B-YD and different, Gile is another one that's out there. And they're nice. The technology looks remarkably similar to that of a Tesla. Gee, I wonder why. And I was talking to some of the drivers,

and they were saying, like, yeah, these cars are really cheap. So they're nice cars. They're cheap. China's bringing their A-game when it comes to the car industry. And they're going to come to the U.S. very quickly. The scariest thing about Chinese car industry is they didn't have a car industry at all basically in 2012. Yeah, well, Elon China.

Yeah, no. That's that to me, it's, it's bizarre because when I lived in China, I don't remember any Chinese cars. And now I go to Europe and I see Chinese like car brands. This didn't exist. Europe should probably engage in some protectionism against Chinese cars, maybe, because they have a huge car industry in Europe. Anyways, Zuzuz's pedal says they are upset. They can't afford a burrito. People are under communism. We'll never, ever have a burrito, So ever explain our, are us to Gen Z. I explain this to Gen Z. Yeah, fair enough.

I mean, you don't get a lot of options in a communist society, okay? Hold on. We, I want this. I don't mean to pivot. Can I respond to that? Oh, sure. Just real quick. Here's the problem is a lot of this is emotional and it's fear-based, right?

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And I want to make sure that we have some time to address that this is the one-year anniversary. You tip me off to this. I tip you off because Noah tipped me off to it. So full credit there. Of charge. Why don't you say it then? One-year anniversary. We are, it is today, specifically today, is the one year anniversary of, I think one of our fondness memories, all of us, which is Charlie got a South Park episode about him.

Yes. And we were all very excited. This is the one year of that. One year mark. Dude. Of the Charlie South Park episode that was so funny. He was so excited. It was very funny because he was, I remember him being very tentative.

Like, is this a good thing? Is this a good thing? We all watched it together on Thorpe. And we're like, yes, it's a good thing. I remember the first thing. So we put it in our group chat. and it was in our thought grab chat and he goes like what do I do? And it was like Jack me, Blake, everybody was just like, it's awesome.

Charlie was not a South Park guy. No, because he was like, yeah, how bad is this? And we're like, dude, just ride the way. Just be happy about it. It's awesome. And he was like, okay, I can do that. Let's show some of the highlights for him. So the way it worked was there was the trailer that came out first where you can see like the clip of.

That's what I'm talking about. I think it was even just a screenshot first. But my point is, yeah, it was a screenshot. But my point is he didn't know how bad he was going to be, you know, lampooned or whatever, you know, in the, in the episode. So he was saying the danger, and I guess we all kind of were talking about it. The danger was, you know, what if he leans in on it and they, like, destroy him in the episode. And it's just, it's just really bad.

And I remember we were all just kind of like, doesn't matter, dude, just embrace it. Just go all the way in. Go literally all the way in. And no matter what they say, just laugh. And that's exactly what he did. It was genius. Okay, 25 is the setup. I'm going to trust Fawz on this.

I don't know what this is. 25. And now, watch as Clyde Donovan totally destroyed. He won't live out of suits. Welcome to the channel, guys. Looks like a lot of whiny babies have a problem with what I say, so prove me wrong. Hey, hey, clad. Um, well, you said nothing that good ever came from the Jews, but if that's true, why are bagels so yummy?

Yeah. Yeah. Well, you've obviously been taught by the Jews to have a problem with this school and with America, so let me ask you this. your definition of a woman. What is my what? What is a woman? It's a very simple question.

Well, a woman is a lady friend who, you know, gives you kisses. You see, you can't answer the question, but something is male or it is female. Both sides and scripture agree to that, and that's just the truth. Next. Enough folks to totally destroyed! Oh, geez! Did you call the girls soccer team a Marxist indoctrination factory? That is correct.

We actually beat the boys four to nothing, you know? You can whine about American oppression all you want, but you're using a not. iPhone made by the free market to complain about a system that gave it to you. Girls have it way easy in America, and that's just the truth. Wost you're totally told. Women having good in America, just like black people do. Black people have everything handed to them. Mother f***!

If anyone around here is going to be a master debater, it's me. So let's go. Who wants to debate the master debater? Let's go. You're right there. That's the stupidest haircut I've ever seen. You are round. Livida Kitch 317 says it'll be a perpetual statute for your generations throughout all your dwellings.

So you can shut up, baby. You just hate America and you love abortions. Oh, so great. You just hate America and love abortions. You just hate America and you love abortions. Yeah, this is the reaction on thought crime after that. It's not 17th. It's the stupidest haircut I've ever seen.

First of all, I just think it's hilarious. And secondly, the whole thing is like, wait, so a campus thing I've been doing for 13 years to debate random college kids has now been so. important that it gets prominent prime time placement on comedy central i think i think the whole thing is just awesome and hilarious there's so much more i want to say about this but the whole stick by the way comedy central you south park you crushed the water i compulsively drink water on campus it's like okay boom we guys they hydrated now the lozenges you got to work a little i by the way the holy bible right next to it i even said on this campus tour i was going to bring a holy bible with me to every single campus stop.

Oh. I never noticed, I actually genuinely never noticed the water thing until South Park made fun of it. Oh, I did. And then I started to see it. The tea and the lozenges.

But he would always, like, set down the mic and then drink his water. Okay, so we have some more. Do we want to play some more? Yeah, let's do another one. Let's do, uh, this is the master debating part. Let's do, uh, 26.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but a body growing inside a woman's body is not her body. It's a completely separate beat. Eric, what are you doing? I'm sorry, Mom. You told me to go to sleep, but I started master debating again.

This is really getting to be a problem, Eric. Mom, you don't understand. I'm getting really good at this. I have my arguments down rock solid. These young college girls are totally unprepared so I can just destroy them and also edit out all the ones that actually argue back well. It just feels so good. I understand it feels good, but that doesn't mean you do it all the time. I'm sorry, Mommy.

Put the computer away and leave those poor college girls alone. Okay, I won't master debate in Northenette. Look, no, you can call it reproductive rights, but be honest, if the baby could speak, it would fight for its right to live. Eric Cartman. I'm telling him, man. Oh, I want more CK reacting to stuff. So good. How about, it's like 18?

Okay, Fazza is saying 18. We'll play that. I was cracking up, Charlie. At one point in another clip, we'll show it. He literally starts taking the lid off. and before he can get a drink and he sets it back down and grabs the mic and shuts down the person he's debated, which you do all the time where you're almost going to take a drink, but then you set it down to get your pointed. That's it. Put it back. Putting down the mic in between the question, that is like, that is pure art South Park.

Like that is a 10 out of 10. Look at that. Putting the mic down, that is pure. And the girl reading off the phone, by the way, with like the angry, like, live face. Like, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm reading so it's it's it's it's just perfect. Oh, he was so happy.

It's hard. Like, we, okay. What about like 22 or 23? Let's do 23. I think that's a good one. Okay.

I have never in my time working with you, Charlie, been so blown up with congratulatory text. It's like everybody was like, that's amazing. That's the coolest thing ever. And meanwhile, the libs are like, Charlie, they're making fun of you.

You don't get it. Anyways. Why aren't you mad? Yeah. I'm mad that you're not mad. We're supposed to be mocking you. You can't enjoy it. And then you made it your profile picture.

Like you just, you totally, so you, they tried to own you and you actually owned them owning you. And you turned it into something that's even more powerful. And I, I love the reaction here because, of course, it's great. This is the great. Eric Cartman. This is Cartman who, and this is, this is Cartman's thing, right? He might be mean, but he's never wrong. Right. He's always right. And I love the catchphrase right there. You know, you hate America and you love abortion. It's like, he's got the Holy Bible next to him. And so a couple bottles of water. I'm like, man, if you want to just distill like all of Charlie Kirk down in the one sentence, it's like, you hate America. I love it. It's so good. It was the funniest line. Shut up, baby. because you hate America and love abortions. Happier times. Special.

Can we, we should mention so that we did the T-shirts. Didn't we do them? And then we ended up not using them. But I think there's like a box somewhere of those t-shirts with, with like that. Oh, the artwork that Caboos did? Was it Caboos? Yeah, Caboom. I know it was Master Debater.

And cut 22 if we want to play it. We did that, yeah. Let's do that. Yeah, 22. I want to give kudos to Michael. He's one of our technical producers. He actually did a custom turning point drawing 4-11. Throw it up.

We got a short. Look at that. The 47 hat. The 47 hat. The 47 hat start a chapter. That's very good, Michael. That's very good. And it's even got like the rumble thing in the background and the microphone.

It's so good. That's great. Did he use AI or did he do that himself? That's very good. I don't know. Construction paper, Charlie. Construction paper. And?

Michael, no, he said by hand in my ear, Michael, you are an artist. And I have to play this clip before we end, though, because this is CK just kind of just taking in what he had accomplished on a cultural level. We didn't play 24, right, Faz? We still have 24? It goes to show, though, and I mean, this needless to say, that what we have done has really has permeated the culture, I think more so than we even realize at times, right, as the actual, I mean, we know it's big,

I know it's broad, we know it's impactful, but I will, this is, I will join you in that, Charlie. I have, I wish I would have shut up there and not cut them off. Sorry, my, sorry, sorry, it's okay. I, uh, beautiful. I, do you remember, I forget what happened, but we, we were going to wear the shirts all at one point, and we never did, um, with like the regular Cartman shirts. And so I still have that t-shirt, like in my, like my, uh, uh, the closet where I kind of keep like the show, the shirts and stuff that I wear on air. And like, I just, I don't know, just every time I see it, I'm like, that was what you were talking about. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's the shirt. And I was like, we were going to do, it was going to be a whole thing. It's going to be a whole thing. We miss these.

Every time I look at it. I'm just like, it's, it's, it's, it's, yeah, it hits me about how much you miss him. But it's also like all of the plans that we, were like in motion you know like all the different narratives and and operations and and memes and just it all just stops yeah well mike you remember those days well i know i miss those days man these videos are really special that are watching back i'm glad we have so much of them on tape let me yeah i'll i'll put it that way it's i'm at a point with it now where where it's like I'm glad we have stuff like that on video, you know? Because that, I mean, that's, that reaction.

I mean, that's one of the, one of the most genuine moments of Charlie I've ever seen on air. That is just his genuine true reaction. He's not, you know, performing. He's not, you know, playing for the crowd or, you know, speaking to a, you know, this, this huge arena. It's just Charlie. It's Charlie being a dude. He's just being a bro. and watching a show that is, you know, obviously targeting him and he's being a good sport about it.

And he's having a laugh with his friends. And that's that's cool to have. It's just really cool to have. Mikey, why don't you take us home? Burritos are great. Not a question of Michael Null. No. They're overrated.

No, no, no said he didn't like him, I think. Jack Pacific's actually a communist. No, he's just kidding. I'm just kidding. He's a national capitalist. Which I love. like that. It's not bad. It's a good, I like the national capitalism. I kind of wish you were able to break it down last time. Yeah. Everybody clipped you out of contact. Ever is going to go viral.

No, because they, they flipped it without any of the stuff that I said after it. I had no idea that the burrito debate was going to go viral. Yeah. You never know. I think the consensus is, though, just as we're closing out, that Cholet is much better than Kudova. No, that's so completely wrong. I'm going to, we're going to, no, we're going to run that on. They are the same thing. I'm tweeting it. I'm tweeting it right now, and we're going to find out Mikey McCoy. Do a poll.

That would be great. Do an actual poll. Because my polls keep getting hijacked, so we're just going to do it like a comments. We should just get two burritos made, like one at a Kudoba and one of the Chupotland. Oh, do like a blind taste test? Do a Pepsi challenge with it. And a price test. Who's doing it cheaper?

It's got to be the same. I like the blind taste test idea. I think you get free guac or did they get rid of that? so it was like a decade ago. Anything free is gone. They've gotten rid of that. Actually, when I was at Kidova, when I put in the order, I noticed that when I chose Guac, it did not charge me extra.

All right, Mikey. Take us home. All right. Well, how do you want me to take this out? I've never seen. Okay, I'll close with this. Okay. I am really thankful for this last year.

And I miss Charlie like so much in watching those videos. made me really miss him. And like entering, you know, this episode, it was really fun to, like, joke about burritos and stuff and talk about all this stuff and make jokes and wear these hats and everything. But, like, it is crazy to sit in this studio and, like, just how much I miss him

and, like, just seeing his smile and his laugh in those videos is, like, you know, the best we can do is just continue to, like, move on as best we can. I'm really proud of us, actually. We've had a lot thrown at us. And we should say, Blake, thank you for reminding us that it was the one year because, you know, that we have to remember the good stuff. I'm really grateful. I've mentioned I was really grateful Charlie got to see Japan, walk around Korea that last weekend.

And I'm really grateful he got to see the South Park. Yeah. So you take it out, take it home with go out there and commit more thought cry. Go out there and commit more thought crime. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust. Go to charliekirk.com.