The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 138 — The Lindsay Clancy Case

Episode Date: August 15, 2026

The Thoughtcrime team assembles for a full hour-long blowout on just a single topic: The Lindsay Clancy case that has transfixed millions across the country, while inspiring a wave of new conspiracy theories as well. Who is guilty, who is innocent, and what should we all think of it? Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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news. It's number one online. And we are going to dig into it. And yes, this is the case of Lindsay Clancy, the woman who has, and admits, by the way, does not deny that she strangled her own children. So I'm going to tell you that right now that if you don't want to listen to this episode, if this is something that, you know, it's a little too heavy for you. It's just not your style. It's not your speed. Hey, that's what we're going to be talking about. And we're not going to get graphic about it.

We're not going to talk about those things. What we're going to talk about is the fact that she is getting people online who are supportive of her. And I don't just being supportive in terms of saying, like, oh, big pharma played a role. I mean, they're actually saying she didn't do it or even that she may have done the right thing, which is insane. Let's see who all we have tonight. I believe we have Blake Neff. What about Blake? I am locked and loaded and ready to go.

And I am amped up to discuss this extremely horrifying case. Yeah, indeed. And we've got Tyler, Tyler back from sabbatical. What's up, Tyler? Hey, it's good to see everybody. What's that shirt you have? Sorry, I missed you guys last week. I walked in a few minutes late.

What? What's your shirt, your hat that you have? This is a Phoenix Suns, the Valley Hat. Schedule was just released today. Okay. Does the Valley represent kind of? of like your hopes at the start of the season. The valley.

And then you go into the valley of despair during the season and then you come out after the season's over. The valley is where all of us Arizona sports fans always live every year, which is deep in the valley of. We call it the also known as the uncanny valley. Not winning. Yeah. The deep valley of not winning. High hopes. The valley of high hopes.

Well, someone else who knows about sports fans and sports teams not winning. We got Cliff Maloney. what up cliff good to be here jans thanks for having me Philadelphia has been far more successful in the last 50 years than Arizona so yes we have and in fact we and we've got LeBron now so we'll have to have to see I mean I haven't really made a comment on it yet I'm just sort of wait and see which is a media a media out that it's an immediate Al you're going to have to live with that forever and the embarrassment I know I know

Speaking of embarrassment, I thought, I'm looking at the Sun's history, I thought you guys at least won a conference championship during the Nash days, but no. No, they have not. They went to the finals in 21 and then 93, I guess. That's it. Was that a Jordan one? That's it. Yeah, that was lost to Michael Jordan. Okay.

That's at least an honorable guy to lose to. Yeah, I mean, that is what it is. Jordan and Janus. All right. Gentlemen, should we dive right into it? So let's, let's dive in. And so, you know, I kind of speaking of, speaking of LeBron James, horrible situations. Yeah, seriously.

Bad takes, bad internet takes. Yeah, no. This, this, this, this, all we do here is about all we have are bad takes on this show. That's why we have Tyler on that. Exactly. And. I was talking, I was talking about the Clancy. Yeah, yeah, I know. So, so, so I threw out kind of a little bit at the beginning.

This is what we're going to talk about tonight. It might be the entire show. I don't know. But, you know, for anyone who's been living under Iraq, it is obviously the saddest and most horrific murder trial in America that's going on right now. And a, if you didn't know this in the Boston area, a mother, young mother, three beautiful little kids, father comes home, finds the mother has jumped out the window, is injured. He calls 911, tries to get her help, goes inside, and finds the children's bodies strangle to death in the basement with exercise bans. Lindsay Clancy herself is now paralyzed permanently from the, I guess, the waist down, I believe.

And she survived her fall, which was a suicide attempt. And the big crux of this story is the fact that she was on an extremely large amount of pharmaceuticals. And just an entire big pharma cocktail. And she is essentially declaring, she's not disputing that she killed the children, her to her own children. But what she's saying is that it was sort of a temporary psychosis induced by big pharmaceuticals. Blake, anything else you want to add to that? Yeah. So there's so many layers to this.

So yeah, the defense claimed no contest that she did it. But the idea is she was totally, she was like completely not sensible to the world due to her level, like the amount of drugs she was on. In fact, I want to, I want to rattle off the list here because I think she. I figured you would have it.

Yes. Let me see here. Where are they, okay, the reported list of 13 different psychiatric medications that she was prescribed over a period of just four months, over four months she got put on these. Ambien,

Clona Zepam. diazepam, Prozac, uh, uh, i amatrogen. I can't even read, I can't even read all these.

Adavan, Remeran, Seroquel, Zoloft, Trasidone, hydroxazine, um, amitriipidiline,

and bussoprone. I guess it's good that I don't know all of these off the top of my head. I recognize several of those. You can see there, there's anti-anxiety meds in there. There's antidepressants in there. These shows the, idea is she was failed by the system, put on all of these drugs way too quickly, drove her mental

state into a total disarray and caused her to commit this heinous crime. I will note, her husband seen, as far as I know, they did divorce. Her husband has remarried to someone else, but I believe he has taken her side in this case. I should also note, they are both suing the pharmaceutical companies and I think the hospital that she went to for all of this, so they do have incentives here. but what's really wild about this and by the way, and I don't want to say that and I don't want to say

that they necessarily don't have a point either and I want to talk about that but yes, yes, they are. I think they have a point. On the other hand, what I would say is, let's say, let's imagine a different situation. I think that if a 19 year old male

was put on a similar amount of drugs and snapped and went and did a school shooting, for example, and tried to say, I should be found not guilty because it was just caused by those drugs. I don't think anyone would remotely entertain that for a second. We would say, even if those contributed heavily, that is such a monstrous act. You're going away for life. I think there is a bit of a double standard in play here that would not apply to anything,

except sickeningly enough, a mother killing her own children. And that's how I feel about this. I'd say, even if this contributed, you're getting convicted. but what's wild about this is, and this is what we really want to dive into, is the number of people who just, they're conjuring up an entire alternate reality about this. So, well, hey, Blake, before we,

before we get into that, let's go around. And I know the case is still ongoing, but just, you know, first glance, you know, when you look at something like this, you know, what do, let's say what we all think would be the, you know, the requisite punishment for this. And I would say, look, I would say if there weren't these medications involved, I would say death penalty.

But because they are involved, I would call that a mitigating factor. And I would say, you know, she should be locked up for life. She should be committed for life. But I think in this case, I would not support the death penalty. You would not? I could understand that. I could say as a mitigating circumstance, yeah, that you might be spared the death penalty. But I think, and I don't think that's on the table in Massachusetts anyway.

I would consider this still murder. You should go to prison for a murder suitable length of time in 25 years. Yeah, for life, for life. Most I would entertain is like, I don't know, 25 years or something where it's like a significant chunk of your life. Tyler, how do you fall on this one? Well, I'm like, I saw so many questions around this whole thing because I'm just reading through the hellscape that is Reddit. and just seeing some of these crazy people face to face, which... Well, I don't want to go to the crazy yet.

I don't want to go to the crazy yet. I just want to kind of get our general take on the case before we go to the crazy. Yes, yeah. See, I like jumping straight to the crazy because... No, I know. We'll get into the crazy. Believe me, I love poking crazy with a stick. Suitable sentence.

What sentence would you pick, Tyler? I agree with you where it's like one of those scenarios where it's like, she needs to go away for a long time. you know, the premeditation element of trying to kill your kids, no matter what influence of drugs and what cocktail, what you're going through, how much severe depression you're going through, everything else.

It's that's beside the point you killed. Like to me, like to me, insanity defense should be reserved for, in my opinion, when you are totally out of touch with reality. So like if a mentally handicapped person, kill someone because they don't even understand that they're hurting them or that they're killing a person.

I get that there. But a person who has enough, frankly, presence of mind to be able to kill one child, then another, then the other, and to wait until someone left the home to do it because otherwise they would be stopped. That is a person with enough presence of mind to be punished for this crime. Yeah, her faculties were clear. All right. Let's get, let's get Cliff in before we go all the way down. Yeah, look, when I first read the headline,

to understand, like you guys said, that she told her husband to leave the house, right? It's about as premeditated as it gets, to plan, to conjure, to have him leave the house and to have a woman strangle, three of her own children, immediately, you know, not even knowing what state it was, I'm thinking, yes, death penalty 100%, maximum sentence in a state like Massachusetts, maybe it's life in prison. I think the one pause I have is, Blake, when you read off that list of medications that she's on, I mean, there's no world where a doctor's, or any type of medical system should be prescribing. And from what I know, I mean, she's taking all of these at once.

I think it was multiple doctors, too, by the way. I think it was its case where, like, one doctor prescribed some stuff, but they maybe didn't know that the other doctor, you know what I mean, how they can do that sometimes. Yeah, but to have any argument against at least life in prison, I just think I'm with you guys. She made these decisions. She was not out of her mind.

she might have been medicated, but to tell your husband to leave the house, strangle your three kids, you belong locked up in prison forever. That's where I'm at. That's where I'm at with it. Prison or some kind of, you know, mental, so I've talked about this before. My dad worked at Cliff, you know, the Narsdown State Hospital in Narstown, PA and, you know, his entire career just under 30 years, which was a psychiatric hospital, still his psychiatric hospital.

It was much larger when the, you know, the asylums were more well funded. And he did work in one of the buildings where the criminally insane did take up residence. And, you know, folks who were deemed unfit to stand trial, John DePont was there, for example, my dad was there. So a guy who just went completely nuts and was like killing the Olympic team and there's a whole movie about it. I think it's called Foxcatcher. It's a pretty good movie, actually. And just kind of lining up those. whole story and, you know, and has worked with that. So it's, it's something I've always been aware of.

And it's, you know, as a society, I do think that you need a place for people like that, whether or not it's, you know, in this case, chemically induced or whatever. I think that every society throughout history is always going to have a certain quotient of people that for whatever reason have a break with reality. And it's clearly what this was. And, And as such, you need a place to stick those people to keep them away from everybody else and their own kids, by the way. Indeed. Yeah, let me make the plug here that I feel like so many politicians are scared to say, which is we need to bring back these insane asylum. I mean, I just feel like.

I was saying. Yeah, exactly. There's got to be a, I mean, if you guys walk down the street of any major city, right, the amount of mentally disturbed people that are not just homeless, they're not just drug addicts, they're not just alcoholics. We've seen it on subways. We've seen so many cases. These people are mentally disturbed. And so, you know, these politicians want to always have compassion, and especially the cities with these Democrat leaders,

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And when you bring that up, what always then follows up is like liberals will come out and they'll say, that was Reagan's fault. Reagan's the one who emptied out the asylums. I don't know if that's true or not. I think it's false, but even if that's the reason, okay, Ronald Reagan has been dead for 22 years. Ronald Reagan has not been in office since I've been alive. You could refund them.

There's been Democrat monocontrol of Congress at the federal level. There's been Republican mono party control at the federal level. There are individual states that are red or blue. why doesn't somebody just do this? Just go and say, we're going to try to do it. Yeah, funny enough, Blake, it's actually Jack Nicholson's fault.

Cuckoo's Nest, maybe. It's right. One floor of the cuckus nest. Yeah, the whole defund, the metal institutions push, goes back to one floor of the cuckus nest. And this, by the way, the same way that the anti-nuclear trend

in the 1970s goes back to the the film, the China Syndrome, which is also the name of my first band. And in, you know, it just became this like, you know, this like, oh my gosh, we can't have nuclear power. Everyone's going to die. Same way, one floor of the cuckers nest. It came out in that era. And suddenly it was like, oh, we have to shut down all the asylums, nurse ratchet. They're so bad.

They're so terrible. You're going to have an Indian throwing a water fountain through the window. You know, it's so bad. And they just, they just started doing it. And so you can, yeah, like Reagan was part of it, but there are lots of Democrats part of it, too. It's like, whatever, right? We can point out that there are things that Republicans and Democrats likewise have done that we disagree with. Nixon also had price controls, by the way, we disagree with that.

And so, you know, the idea that we're going to sit here and play this partisan game with it, it's like you're just kicking the can down the road rather than actually doing what we need to do. Exactly. But, guys, I think we've, speaking of kicking the can down the road, We need to engage with who really belongs in the asylums, which is basically all of the true crime podcast obsessives. I don't know what else to describe it as. But this is the insanity around the case.

Jack or Tyler, whichever of you has the better, maybe you can one up each other. What's the most insane thing you're seeing people do? They're not even going with, they're not even debating the question of, okay, does this qualify as a sort of murder where someone should go away? They're embracing a truly alternate version of reality on this case. Right. Yeah, Tyler, well, let's see, what are you seeing on Reddit? I know, I know you're a big reddner. Side rail, right?

Side, uh, sideline you before. I'm just scrolling through all of the debates that are being had about, and again, it just is, it's kind of reminiscent of some of the things that we've seen in recent months. It's like people just like, kind of making up facts. Look, you go to Reddit, you go to Reddit, you're basically going to the cancer factory to begin with. So, you know, like, you know what you're getting into. But I would like to hear what's going on over there down at the old cancer plant. Well, I think some of these things are pretty obvious. So there's the baseline argument about, you know, the, what was prescribed. And there's

a clear confusion about the facts, right? And it looks like a big debate exists out there. And And so a lot of this is a misunderstanding that all of the drugs that are on the list were prescribed to her at the same time. And that's from what I'm reading, that's the argument and the debate that that's not true, that the facts of the case that have been coming out. And again, I haven't been watching this closely. I know like very little about this. I'm just reading, you know, third party documentation of this on the worst platform in America. Well, let's get into a few of the other ones. ones. So like some of the specific stuff people are alleging.

Wait, but, but hold on, hold on. Like, and I'll just, I'll even, I'll respond to that, though, that these types of drugs, just because they're, first of all, you know, mommy brain is real. So when you have a child, now I think her youngest was eight months. She didn't just have the child, but she was in that, in that, you know, one year window. And that mommy brain is 100% real, that all sorts of things happen with hormonally with women, spiritually, biologically, all that when they have a child, that also doesn't mean that, you know, it's okay to kill your kids. But the idea that you're taking those drugs at the same time you're experiencing all of that, you know, hormonal activity is going on is it, even if you took it one time.

And so, you know, to the point of, oh, we'll she take them exactly at the same time or together, they stay in your system. This isn't like, you know, like an aspirin or something. Like these are very serious antipsychotic drugs. You said cerrochal, I think lemitil, you said, colazepam. These are very serious mind-altering drugs. So some of the arguments there are being made is that she kept going in, seeing a specialist, and then rejecting the drugs that were prescribed or saying that the drugs weren't working on her

within just days after getting prescribed the drugs. And then she was being put on other drugs. and then was she still just taking the other drugs still or from what i understand and again i don't know i'm not watching this closely but the answer to that is no but some people think that she was and and and therefore the the evaluators were doing her and doing a severe injustice by just piling on more drugs when she had already been prescribed other drugs yeah there's a bit of that well by the way guys this is This, I just, I just happen to click over. This is now the lead story on Daily Mail.

Like, that's how big this case. Yeah, no, yeah. If you're not paying attention, this is just like a gigantic thing. Like, this is, there are people that this is all they've been watching all week, or all the past two weeks, because I think we're on day 11 of the trial or so as we record this. And, okay, I'll explain that article when we get to that point. But there's, yeah, there's, the crazy has explored. Well, let's get it.

Let's, let's dive into the crazy. We've been beating around the bush on this. So, guys, here's what's going on with the true crime piece. So we've said they're not like the defense is not contesting that she killed her kids. The prosecution is there's there's agreement on just okay. This is basically a medical case, a pharma case. Yes. But people online on TikTok, there are diehard Lindsey Clancy supporters who believe that she is, has been framed from the start by her husband. And their main arguments for this are, well, let's let's read one of these for example.

Well, actually, Blake, I don't even know if you're looking at it, but that's literally what the lead story on Daily Mail is right now. Yeah, let's just get into it. heinous lures about Lindsay Clancy's ex-husband. Patrick Explode. Now his family is peeking out as murder trial grips America. So there you go. Yeah. Well, so as an example, a lot of this is on TikTok.

It's like really, really intense TikTok things. And they just come up with various things. So here's an example. Throw up the midnight scroller comment. The police pulled up to a house with. three dead babies, a critically injured woman, and an unscathed man. And they believed

the man. They believed the man, is what she says. Another one, Christine on TikTok, she says, her theory, and this is something we just heard about today from one of the girls in the office. So when she was found, the

mom, because she jumped out of a window, into the snow and was found, kind of knocked out and nearly died because she was freezing, she says, my theory, he killed. He killed. her, meaning the mom, so attempted to kill her, much earlier in the day. And all the crap on the phone and the picks and the searches on her phone was him using her phone for the alibi he needed. And that's why her body temp was 82. People saying, has anyone thought maybe he, the husband, was the sociopath. And they're conjuring up all of this. One I saw the other day, and I can't

find it now. But a lot of people, they're just straight up bringing astrological reasoning into this. and they're saying Lindsay is a Leo and I'm a Leo and so they're saying a Leo would never voluntarily kill her kids ever. But I think the husband is a Gemini or something. And I guess it's a total Gemini move to do evil stuff. And so in addition to in addition to this, so here, let me go back to the Daily Mail piece because I don't want to change that. So let's see. So some critics have accused Patrick of missing warning, and failing to protect his own children, which I, you know, I would certainly agree with.

But some have some cruel viral posts have suggested without evidence that Patrick was somehow involved in the murders. Let's see, let's see, let's see. They're supporting that Patrick and his new wife, Rachel, have been targeted by online trolls and hit with death threats. They've been doxed. They've had their personal information posted publicly in a campaign of digital harassment. A colleague noted that Rachel, as a Rachel is the new, his new wife. This happened several years ago. This happened in 2023.

And the relentless online scrutiny had clearly worn her down in recent months, even as she continued pushing forward with her life and career as a fertility doctor at a New York clinic. It's been tough. She's hanging in there. He relocated from the Boston suburbs to Manhattan. four months after May 23 when his children were killed. It also says, yeah, it just says they've been doxing them. They've been going out after them.

They've been trying to claim that his relationship was some kind of, you know, some kind of motivator. Others have accused him as a form of a form of neglect for leaving Lindsay home alone with the children that night in January, 2023. even though her own treating doctors had assured him that she was no danger. That it's, you know, it's going completely nuts. People are saying, let's see, let's see. Well, it's one of those.

Wait, wait, wait, hold on a second. This, this happened at night? Is that with it? I don't believe so. I think it happened. He like, or maybe he went out to run an errand at CBS or something, and that's when she did it, basically. I would like to know a time of day here. I think, I think that actually, I think that makes it.

a big difference. Wait, are you going, Jack, are you becoming open to this? No, no. I'm saying it's actually worse. You know, was it like, because it says, oh, she was up at night.

Well, she was up at night. Part of the argument for why she was going nuts, basically. No, no, no, no, okay, no. Between five and, no, no, but sorry. That article is, no, that comment was incorrect because I, I, no, this is between five and six p.m. So that's like normal dinner time, you know, kind of time.

Okay, right. That comment was incorrect. So there you go. Daily mail, even the Daily Mail gets things a little bit, a little bit off. Or maybe it's just out of context. Yeah, but just to get the scale of it, like throw up the TMZ screenshot that I showed. So this is a TMZ gossip rag article about it. All the names blocked out. These are the top comments on it with the most thumbs. I just want to know when the husband is going on trial. And then we have a person in the medical field, a nurse doesn't know to cut down the street, not across.

I guess that's some, you know, they're trying to find something suspicious about it. She's innocent. When is Patrick getting indicted? And then another, he's guilty. And people are, they're just posting his like, his face and saying, oh, he kind of does look a bit like Sam Altman, basically. So I guess they're just deciding he has an evil face. And this is, this is consuming hundreds, thousands, dare I say, millions of people are building these castles in the clouds. Again, no one on the defense team is alleging this.

Lindsay herself has never alleged this. Like a lot of them are basically saying he, he would be such a narcissistic psychopath that he did it. And then he gaslit her into thinking that she'd done it. They're dreaming up realities like that in this case. Well, the crappy part about this whole thing, and as you read this and read these people making up these random things, is now shifted from as the facts come out and as the trial is happening.

Yeah. And we see some of this, right? now they're shifting from uh oh okay well he didn't do and now we're seeing like ripples where like um okay maybe he didn't do it but he is now sketchy and look at like like you said like they're like cluing in on his face and saying how he's a terrible person and the reality is you know for whatever you know for all it's worth like other people have come in and been like he's always he's always been a good he's always been a good dad he was always but that's how they That's how they would trick you.

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And we actually have this like vocabulary chapter where we were like describing the vocabulary of the toxic left. And one of the entries is actually the word narcissist. And it says, narcissist. definition. Any non-left-wing individual who says no to a left-wing individual narcissists. Yeah, how many chapters? How many more chapters you guys got? Any new ones? We're doing 10 new chapters. So it's 10 full new chapters for all the things that happened in the last couple of years. And actually, so here's our, and so each there's a definition. Producer Fas came

with the idea. It was genius. And then there's always an example sentence after that. So it says, example, her conservative husband told her he didn't want to donate $5,000 to plan parenthood. He must be a toxic, narcissistic abuser. Anyway. It's like what they mean when they use these. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, I think we've got, we have a clip. We have all these clips. I don't think we've played any of them,

so I feel bad. We have 11. So this is a conspiracy theorist explaining their version of the case. And I have no idea what they're going to say, actually. I haven't seen this clip. Let's cue it up. Clip 11. Lindsay was charged with the murder of Cora, Dawson, and Callan. The accusation is that they were murdered with

three exercise bands wrapped around their necks. First Dawson, then Cora, then Cal. Lindsay pled not guilty. Lindsay, to me, looks scared and confused. Lindsay is already silently sobbing in her chair when prosecution is going into the day of January 24th, 20203. It was a snowy day. Cora and Dawson were in preschool, but they didn't go on Tuesdays. Lindsay took Cora to a checkup that morning where the doctors suggested Pedialax because Cora was having trouble going to the bathroom. Patrick was home with the boys. The two of them texted like normal. When Lindsay got back with Cora, Patrick returned to the basement to work. Lindsay put down Callen for a nap and then takes the older two outside to play. That afternoon, Lindsay searched for

both Pedialax online as well as Takeout 3V. Prosecution claims that she was searching for how far it was to figure out how much time she had to find the phone number for the closest CBS, which she did and calls and ask about the kids pedialax, which they say they do have in stock. Patrick claims to have made the call to Lindsay from CVS saying they didn't have the on brand. They only had the generic version, but the evidence shows that he purchased the Pediolax. So then she looks up the restaurant 3V, right? She texts Patrick and asks if he's okay with takeout. He says yes.

He claims to leave at 515. He claims Dawson was eating chicken nuggets on the couch, but in the evidence photos, there is not a crumb on the kids' plates on the counter. So apparently during this triple murder, suicide crunch time, Lindsay also stopped to do the dishes. Patrick leaves for CVS and 3V and Shannon the DA says that's when the clock starts. She then takes the children to the basement. Shannon said that Lindsay takes the children to the basement.

She separates Dawson from Cora and Callan. Okay, so we heard a little bit of the weird stuff there. Like, oh, there's no crumbs on plates in the photos and that, you know, that proves something. This is what they do. Yeah. This is what they, these. And we've talked about the cancer. that is the true crime community, uh, on this show for years, even, uh, even when

Charlie was still here and co-hosting because it's, it's, what they do is they take these cases of obviously guilty people. And in this case, keep in mind, in this case, Lindsay Clancy's lawyers are not contesting the facts. They are not contesting what the state alleges she did. They are saying, yes, she did it. They're using a. different type of defense, basically insanity play. In this case, it's a medically induced insanity pharmaceutical induced. And yet you will get these people who say, ah, but they're, you know, the plate was, didn't have any crumbs. And he said he was eating the, the chicken. What does it matter? Why does that matter? What if, even if there were, if the chicken nuggets were somewhere else,

does that change anything? Does that actually change anything? No, it doesn't. But what they do is they stick into something that they claim is an inconsistency to then try to paint this bigger, broader picture fitting what they believe is, you know, their, my truth, quote unquote, that somehow ipso facto the husband did it when that's not how a chain of logic works. That's not evidence of anything. It is simply the normal type of thing that comes up in an invent. investigation where perhaps one person says something, perhaps they misremembered, perhaps they, perhaps that, you know, in recollections, especially when you're dealing with an emotional

situation, maybe the ticket nuggets were for breakfast or, you know, for lunch or whatever. You know, the point of the matter is that doesn't change any of the salient points of the case, but you've got this guy, which by the way, anyone who's a trained investigator would know because that, because guess what percentage of cases have, you know, have something like that? 100%. But what you have to do is just focus on the material evidence. Well, let me make one comment that I think that, you know, anyone who's saying, well, why were the plates not full of these chicken nugget crumbs? If you're insane enough to strangle three of your children and then the argument is that, oh, well, then who would then go and do the dishes? A crazy person would go and do

anything that seems out of the ordinary because you just strangled your three children. So Jack, you're exactly right. People laser focus on some of these points, but it's like you're missing the whole point of her strangling her children and then acting like she's going to have coherent thoughts and make decisions that are in tune with reality. It just doesn't add up. And by the way, like you said, she's making this not guilty plea, but she's not saying that her husband did it. And look, this has been years. And if you have any leverage on her, if you have any threat on her, what could you even have? She lost her three children. The most important thing that pretty much any person on the planet, if you're a parent, so it's like, of course they would come out and make that argument. They're not. They're not accusing him of anything. This is just online gobbly gook because people are bored. That's what it is. But is it that I guess it's their board. And by the way, Jack will appreciate this. We got Zuzu's pedals donated. And she pointed out that this is, they're getting their crackpot theories from the movie, The House Made. Remember when we talked about that, Tyler? It's a housemaid movie I told you about that I told you about house me And that movie

To remind people what goes on in that movie What reminds people that goes on in that movie Is I believe Sidney Sweeney is a housemaid and she goes into Some superficially idyllic Family and then it turns out The husband is secretly abusive And I believe they murder she murders him

No reason Yeah they murder the husband And then she gets away with it like they murder the husband together, I should say. And then so at Sidney Sweeney and Amanda Safered, St. Amanda Safe Red is the wife. Sydney Sweetie is the eponymous housemaid. And, you know, she gets away with it.

And then that sets up the rest of the series where she then gets hired out by other women who are in similar situations. And then she goes and then kills their husbands as well. And I said when this came out that if you guys remember, you can go back and Blake, thank you for reminding. us of this, that I was spurging out that this is turning feminists and female brains into absolute mush. And it is weaponizing women. It's what did I call? I think I called it Radio Rwanda for women when they're listening to this stuff because it was completely insane. And I had

so many people pushing back on me saying, oh, Jack, I watched it. I just thought it was a thorough. I don't think you don't understand what's going on on a subliminal level here. And this is really, really, really bad. And let's see, this, yeah, I see someone in the, in the chat is actually saying, you know, a bunch of them are on Apple podcast. There's another guy, or maybe there's a podcast, I don't know, but I slower books down. And it's just, it's horrific. It's just, it's horrible stuff.

It's disgusting stuff. And it's turning women against men. And here you go, for the example. So what can we do about that? I feel like, We can joke about this, but this feels like it's something of like a wider menace. Like, for example, we have jury trials in this country. 12 people is the norm.

You need unanimity to convict. And when you are, this feels like it's happening at scale, that there are millions, tens of millions possibly even women who are marinating in true crime stuff, who are marinating in stuff like the house made. Like they love using, they love talking about gaslighting and narcissistic personality disorder and all these things. And they love to dream up these scenarios. They love to embrace these scenarios. They love people turn these into their full-time job.

This feels like some sort of threats to the Republic, dare I say. It's something where, you know, do you, I mean, what do we think? What do we think is the reason behind this? Do we think that it's just like these are mine moms who are bored? I personally think that they kind of get a thrill about it. It's like I know something that nobody else knows. And I'm uncovering the truth that, you know, the establishment. I don't know exactly know who the establishment is here in this case, you know,

that they don't want us to know and that they're, it's, you know, the heart of, you know, hardcore feminism is, of course, rebellion. And so it's like this rebellion against the established order. And in female media, this is every single story is the same story these days, whether it's housemaid or whether it's Bridgeton or whether it is The Handmaid's Tale. They're literally all the same story. It's just like this like women's and not just liberation like in terms of go to the workplace. It's like anti-male propaganda.

All right, Cliff, what are you saying? Yeah, this infatuation with the true crime and like you said, Jack, is, hey, I know something you don't know and I want to be creative and I want to uncover the truth. It's kind of pulling from the major conversation that not only are we not having it, but like the mainstream is not having it, which is like maybe these SSRIs and these drugs and all these things are not the way to cure some of these mental illnesses or these people that are having. you know, mild depression and we just throw them on all these medications. I mean, not to tie everything back to the 2024 election, but one of the greatest things about Maha was this idea of maybe the medical institutions aren't correct, right? Maybe the mainstream people that we've listened to for the last decades are getting this wrong. And we shouldn't be overmedicating every single person that walks into a doctor's office and says, hey, I feel sad. Well, great. Let's try to concoct the perfect

medication line up so that you don't feel sad anymore. And really what we do is, you know, we numb people out and we put everybody in this category that they need medication. And so I don't know how we get the conversation back there. But for me, there are so many people, even growing up, I feel like, you know, in the late 90s and the early 2000s, even the riddling boom and this idea that like kids that had too much energy, especially young boys, had to be medicated out of that. And we had to figure out a way to calm people down.

I just wish that that was more of the conversation. Wow, guys. Guys, we got a comment in here. I love this. On Rumble, someone, Aful 1019 says, the fact that not a single person giving commentary here does not have a uterus, nor can or will ever experience childbirth should exclude your opinion, grow and birth a child, and then talk to me.

Are the foids okay, boys? The foyd's okay. Yeah, the majority of us are fathers, actually, and we have children. So actually, no, we do have kids. And this is about maintaining your household. This is about understanding how relationships work, understanding how our world works. And we're talking about common sense. This is literally common sense stuff.

And, yeah, by the way, I'll even go to that level and say that I do think that the father I don't know if he has criminal liability. I don't know if I'd go so far as to say that, but just on a on a pure you know, just I don't know, just real talk that, you know, if you know

that your wife has, is on all those drugs and you know that she's going down this rabbit hole, then you do actually have a duty to your children to get them away from her. And whether that's for a period of time and say like, hey, I'm going to, you know, we're going to go visit the grandparents or something, whatever it is, right?

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Mention the Charlie Kirk Show. That's all you got to do. And they'll do the rest. I like this comment we got from generic Mexican mama who says, I have a uterus. I've had two natural births. And you young ladies are nuts. Also, we got a donation from Sandra who says to them, we aren't supposed to love our husbands and kids.

They look at us as victims already. So when you have a case like this, they are fighting for us, in quotes. It's very sad. You know, I have a thought, Cliff. I feel we mentioned the desire always putting kids on pills my big brain take is I feel like America would have better mental health

if we basically never talked about mental health ever and I think we have a few things one we have a constant desire and this spans all manner of illness I think America even relative to other first world countries has a sort of attitude that anything should be curable through the medical system And so they want a pill for anything, even a problem where it's really just you should toughen up.

You should change your behavior. I think we talk a lot, like we over, we use overly therapeutic language for things. Like get therapy is an insanely common piece of advice for people on everything. And I just think a lot of problems would be, whether you could actually describe them in pharmacological terms or not, it might be more useful for the person if the common response was. you just need to behave better. You need to act better. It's actually just morally wrong what you're doing, as opposed to, oh, you actually have this disorder

that we've classified in the DSM in these eight different ways. It's just a suspicion I have. And I feel like America, for example, whenever we have that, you know, a mass shooting and we'll say America needs to be talking more about mental health. Well, we didn't have mass shootings 50 years ago, and we were never talking.

about mental health then in comparison. Something about this all just seems off to me. It feels like misdirected focus. You know what I Googled? I googled this just because I was interested what would come up on the AI platforms. All right, I guess I AIed this. But my question was because this is really

the entire focus on self, the craziness is really vaulted, I think, since the advent of social media, since women have stopped watching because for about almost, I don't know, 60, 70 years, women were really into soap operas.

So they filled up their time when life became a little bit easier in the modern era in the post-industrial revolution, women turned to soap operas and then soap operas really existed for a long time. a long, long time, like, from, like, the 40s until, like, we were basically, like, teenagers.

And so most of us on, because we're all about, we're very similar in age. And so it's been since that time when, like, soap operas took a nosedive. And now they're into the true crime stuff. The true crimes are back. And they all vampire fiction. Yeah, I'm sure there was some kind of bridge there that I'm missing to that got to the true crime piece. but I googled what did women do before soap operas and it says heavy domestic labor, local social visits, and reading magazines and newspapers,

which sounds like a really much more simple time. This does get to something bigger, which is there's, I guess, two constants. One, women getting distracted by things like that. So, I mean, before you had soap operas, you had moral panics that women were reading too many novels that were firing their imagination, like old 1800s. novels. Yeah. And then you've also had different iterations of women, like concerns with like women's

specific mental illness, we should say. So in the 50s, during the soap opera era, the, you know, they had like, women were on a lot of, oh, what were they taking? Like, benzos, for example, was like a drug they would take more at that time. And, like, they would take tranquilizers. And then if they were going really loopy, you know, husband would have them hauled off to the asylum. And a lot of cases that might just be wanted to replace the wife with a new wife. Classic point in like old 50s movies and stuff.

And then before that, you had like the hysteria panic. So women were having fainting spells. They were developing these hysterical issues. And that was constantly talked about in the 1800s. And then by 1920 or so, it's almost never talked about. And we get different cycles of what mental illnesses are manifesting for people. And I think that's very interesting. And I think it points towards stuff that we're inclined to describe as like a highly clinical, technical mental illness are often social.

They're manifestations of social trends that people hear, oh, this is what a person does when they're a little loopy. This is what a person does when they're depressed, when they're in distress after they have a baby. And that manifests. So to put it another way, for example, is a lot of postpartum? depression caused by the fact that people talk about postpartum depression a lot, I think that's worth considering. Let me give you guys one. It does seem.

I was just going to say it does, it does seem like it's used as an excuse. Yeah, go ahead, Cliff. Yeah, this is one of my favorite quotes. Dana White, they grilled him in some interview because he's made some anti, you know, men going to therapy quotes. And he says, I'm going to paraphrase this. There's some language here, not good for the stream. But Dana White says, quote, I believe that as a man, there's all this.

talk about men's mental health. I can't stand that crap. Yes, guess what? Life is hard. It's a nasty, ugly world out there. It's not perfect. And you can't afford to be a man and talk publicly about, oh, my mental health. We all have bad days and good days. And I believe that as a man, you suck that crap up. Usually if you're a man, you have a lot of people relying on you to deliver. Your wife, your kids, possibly other family members. If you run a business, every one of your employees, yeah, there's no time for men's mental health. You're an effing man. Get up. up, put your effing shoes on, and get out there and be a man. And I just think that narrative has kind of been lost, but I agree with Dana White. I mean, sometimes you just got to tough

it up and deal with it. You don't have to sit across my therapist. You don't have to just manifest in it. You got to figure out solutions and times have to be tough to create those solutions. Well, and that goes back to my point I originally kind of brought up, which is, you know, men and for sure men are having way more psychotic breaks today than they were you know 20 30 50 years ago right so this is not just it's some of this is an application problem of you know modern conveniences and that like to that point is and i totally agree with you cliff is that you you usually can get over and work through most problems in life by like actually like committing yourself to work and doing the right things and keeping yourself busy enough where these things don't become

you know a mental mental anguish in your head and that's the point with with women was that women had a lot more of that right like I mean some of the question here is like are women doing things that they really aren't built to do which is you know high performance jobs that they're thrown into that they you know have like we're seeing all the tic talks and things like that that they are clearly communicating that they don't really want and they wish they didn't have like those those tic talks that the show of like women like arguing for you know full-time work weeks and things like that but you know even at home when they were at home women pre the 40s or 30s when soap operas began and they were named soap operas because they advertised soap because of the listeners to the soap operas

because they were cleaning out they were straight up like spot like the show was brought to you by soap. They were all sponsored by soap. That's why they're called soap offers. And so because they were they were washing floors by hand and they were scrubbing baseboards every day and they were boiling hot water so they could wash their clothes because they didn't have modern conveniences of modern washing machines. And they were cooking meals from scratch because there was no preparation convenience that existed. And so there's all these things that it's like the same, it's the same issue though, right? Whether you're a man or you're a woman and you have, you know, mental ineptitude, you have mental breaks, you have crazy things that are kind of coming at, because people aren't working as hard as they once were. And again, that's some beauty of modern convenience. People aren't working as hard and they're on their phones all the time. And they're on their phones all the time, which means, like, I do think social media psychosis is absolutely central to this as well.

100%. And I completely. Ban TikTok. Ban, well, not not ban TikTok. ban Instagram. Well, I think that adds, too. I mean, I think social media and modern technology exists because of our ability to, like, some of this goes back to, like, some of those things wouldn't have got developed if we were forced to spend all our days and hours in the field, right? Like, how much time would you actually have for a cell phone and content on a cell phone if you were trapped in a field every single day?

Or again, on your hands and knees, scrubbing with water that you have to boil yourself over. a flame, right? Like, you wouldn't have as much time. We, the reality of most of our problems is they're self-created, they're self-induced because you have so much time to be able to do those things. Well, Tyler, two things on that. First of all, that's an absolutely brilliant point. I was going to make a different response when you said they were not working as much, but when you pointed out that you're talking about like manual labor, that's 100% true because, um, many of the things that you're describing there are also linked with increases in testosterone. And so when when Roag Nationalist was here and he was talking about his book, that's exactly what he was saying

that, you know, we used to do these things so much more in society. And as a, and testosterone is a regulator. It's also a strength there, but it's a regulator. So it's regulating that behavior so much more particularly in men, but not just men, in women as well. Obviously, we don't want to go full, you know, WMBA with the testosterone here. But, you know, one of the things that I was going to point out is, and I had a long conversation with Mike Chernovich about this the other day because, you know, talking about this case, but then also talking about how you see a lot more of these, what men do, unfortunately, which is even worse, is family destructions.

And you probably see more men do family destruction rather than just straight up child killing, where it's particularly associated with losing their jobs. and you see a lot of high net worth, high net worth men will lose their job or they get caught having an affair. And you see a headline this, you know, like a couple times a week lately, where suddenly they, because all of their status is wrapped up in their job. And that's kind of what I was saying a couple weeks ago when I was saying that you, you know, we shouldn't center our entire lives around capital and the accumulation of material

wealth and status in that, then they will go and like kill their children. killed themselves, killed her wife. And I think that that's a big part of it. I think that it's people putting their, you know, wrapping their entire lives around that material item. I'm not saying that's the Lindsay Clancy case. I'm saying this is what you see when men commit these family destructions because they think, oh, my life is over.

And all of these people, you know, the wife, the children, they all exist because of me. And if my life is over, then their lives. have to be over too. And that's what creates this mental snap. Because I'm like, you know, I would just, you know, I would, I would be totally fine losing every single, they could zero out my bank accounts, you could zero out my social media, as long as I have my wife and kids, I'll be fine, I'll go get a job to gas station, I'll go work at Wawa. I really would not care in the least. But for me, the reason I work and that I have anything is for my family, not the opposite.

Yeah, and I think that's where everybody is, is where it's like the lack of priorities within society. And again, you can blame social media for a lot of this where it's like constantly the confusion of what's most important. You know, what's going to give you solace? What's going to bring you home? What's most important, right? Like whatever, whatever's get each individual is being bombarded with right now. whether you're a man or you're a woman, but, you know, in particular, women are getting bombarded, I think, way more.

And I say this feeling bad for women because I think women are far more bombarded by this stuff. You know, even in just conversations, you know, I'll have, you know, with women in my life and with, like, friends of, you know, and spouses of people, it's like, it's like, there's like a total lack of priorities sometimes with someone. some people where they're they're not focused on those things that are most important which is again their family their kids their relationship right they're focused on a billion other things you know feeling depressed because of the vacation that wasn't as good as the neighbors or you know not having the dress or the

home or the flooring or the whatever right that's like that's getting being thrown at them on Instagram. You know, the TikToks have been just horrible because it's, it's not just the short content that's just like silly, goofy stuff, but it's the commentary on, again, that soap opera type stuff, which is commentary on what's happening online and, and wanting to know, like, what's going on online all the time with all these different things. And it's just brain rot. And again, it's just this misprioritization that's again disproportionately

affecting women and because they have more time on their hands and I think the only answer and they just invest more time in it I do think the only answer though is like to this point is like to me is like is that manual labor like

the only answer for Tyler force women into manual labor there we go all right we've solved society's problems we're going to take women we're going to delete their Instagram

and we're going to make them do that old-timey washing on the washboards. I think men are falling in, yeah, kind of for this too, right? Because we don't do, men don't do, I don't do nearly enough with my hand. Like, I'm not picking up a shovel every, like, once or twice a week and digging something. I'm not doing project. And again, this is part of why I'm like so anti, you know, this whole just like depend on cheap labor to do a bunch of stuff is like, I think in America we're not teaching young people, particularly young men, to do stuff early that they should know how to do. Like, just basics.

And I think men actually yearn for this, by the way. I have had conversations with many men who are like, man, if I could just learn how to frame, I would learn how to frame. If I could just learn masonry, I would do masonry. If I could just learn how to. Which I will know you can do these things. In fact, it's easier than ever to learn basic electrical or like, you know, you know, think. plumbing like men like actually kind of want to do that stuff and the question is is like for me because I'm not a woman but like do women want to do those things and kind of the answer I get the vibe from

is that like actually I think men are like probably more interested in doing those things the manual labor stuff that they're supposed to be doing than women are wanting to do in today's society that might be kind of controversial but hi folks Andrew Colvette here I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y-ReFi. You've probably been hearing me talk about Y-ReFi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call.

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But I do just want to add before we leave. even and clip i know you got to run to just the other element that there there are females out there who have now uh turned lindsay into a feminist icon they're holding her up and they are holding a rally a rally for uh lindsay uh next week at the plymouth county superior court uh organize us in your city they're trying to turn that wear pink uh the peaceful support she deserved I'm like, so you're saying I should go and maybe, you know, maybe I'll find a wife there. The most damning thing that was done here was they made this on AI. And whatever platform, whatever AI platform enabled this deserves to be hit with tariffs.

Yeah, the only comment I was going to make is Tyler, the entire realignment away from, you know, society has pushed. And you can push with tyranny as long as you want to push people away from manual labor. But I think eventually the realignment, I mean, we're seeing. it now. You know, these welders, these plumbers, any of these trades, you know, you can go to a 10-month apprenticeship and come out making six figures. And so you look at the cost of a college degree skyrocketing, the value of the college degree after you get out plummeting. And so I just think you're going to see a natural realignment because there's going to be a demand for this. So whether men want to do it or not, I think they do. I agree with you. You know, I think I'd love to learn some things.

I'd love, you know, how to work on my car at a much higher level than I'm able to. But I feel like society has pushed us into so many of these things that looking down on manual labor because we've been told not to be the person stuck doing it, but eventually these jobs are going to need to be filled. And no, I don't want cheap labor. I want Americans to take those jobs, but that realignment is coming. Well, and it's going to get worse with robots and, you know, AI. And it's like this problem is not going to get better.

And it's even scarier when you think about. I did never thought of that dystopia. Like I don't think Isaac Asimov ever had a book where it's the future robots are doing all the manual labor. And what happens is everyone is in pods watching true crime podcasts all the time? And what will even the crimes be? Because everyone will be so inert in their pods. Like who's going to even have the energy to get out and commit a heinous murder? No, but just like this, self-crime, self-harm.

Self-harm. No, this is the whole point, right? Like Lindsay's crime is the crime of the future, which is it's going to be self-harm. And the discussions and the deliberation will be over people's capability of being able to commit self-harm. I just feel like people are going to be so cooked. Like, we won't even have like, people are going to barely be able to like get married and have kids sufficient to supply insane crimes for people to obsess over. This is part of the problem. We might need AI generated true crime.

This is the problem is that, yeah, I mean, there probably will be. that might help society we just AI generate fake crimes for people to fixate on and they'll just be debating whether whether this AI person should be convicted and we just won't tell them that it's all fake. We already have fake crimes

that people are debating it's called Reddit that's true and Reddit's filled with robots everything is going to be robots all boosted by bots it's going to be robots all the way down Tyler AI generated crimes AI generated conspiracy theories

AI generated podcasts. We may be AI generated ourselves soon. That's what they want. That is what they want. That's what the people want. That's what the... All comes back to Reddit. The overlords want us...

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Reddit thread going on forever. Cliff, what were you saying? No, I just said it all comes back to Reddit. That's the full circle moment. Yeah. Cancer, it's brain rod, cancer, the internet. it's it's uh it is the cancer palace it is the cancer palace of the internet the cancer factory um guys i

think is that our is that our hard break folks i think so we've got a whole hour on this and as as you predicted blake uh clif anything you want to shout out uh nope on twitter at maloney appreciate you guys we got a great partnership right now at citizens lines with turning point big thanks to tyler working in our four states pennsylvania nevada arizona and new hampshire trying to build that red wall. Appreciate you guys having me. Next week we'll have some major announcements with Cliff and others where we're going to be launching our get out the vote strategy and inviting people into those states, particularly Arizona. We're going to be encouraging people to come to Arizona so you can kind of pre-register

and look out for this at TPaction.com slash 100. It's tpaction.com slash 100. We want to get as many people here, plan your vacation to come spend a week in Arizona in October. We'd love to have you. Cliff would love to have you. We're going to be out. We're going to be out. We're going to be putting a lot of splinters in our knuckles. Any shout out? Shout out?

Do you want to promote anything? Oh, no. No, I'm not much of a self-promoter. We should turn into next week's thought crime. We can talk about all the things that we skipped this week, which will be the things that we skipped last week. I mean, we should do like thought crime after hours, and it's like every topic that we included in the title of an episode but then never got to. So we could finally debate, like, is vacation overrated? Is everyone faking disabilities?

We could watch a meme video from eight months ago that we've all forgotten existed, that we were totally going to debate. Vacation isn't overrated? Just people... Jack, don't weigh in on it. We have to do the thought-crime of the extra credit episode. Okay, okay, fair. I mean, Blake, you could promote people doing physical labor from now until October.

I would be a huge hypocrite if I promoted physical labor. I don't... I haven't done physical labor since I left places where it knows. That's not true. You're doing door. knocking. Oh, that's true. Does that count as physical late?

I feel like walking. Oh, yeah. Of course it does. People don't want to go knock on doors and talk to neighbors. Wait, guys, did we just solve? I think we literally just solved the problem of TikTok feminism right there. If you just get your woman to be a door knocker, then it'll all match. Are we sure we want, are we sure we want the true believers of the people who say that this guy, that this woman's husband murdered their kids and gas litter?

Are we sure we want those people knocking doors? Time out. The feminist, we don't want knocking doors. The great conservative women that are out there that have their heads screwed on straight. We do want to knock doors. But men, we want to talk her. Any Biggs is, is, tell her any Biggs is on their side. No, it's, and, and we need less feminists on doors.

We need less of those people on doors, all right? Let's make this super clear. We need to persuade them to sit at home. No, the whole thing is completely. I guess it's a catch-22, you know, it's one of those situations. It's like sit at home, go crazy. Yeah, I guess if they're out knocking, it does mitigate their ability to go more crazy. It's an interesting balance here.

Maybe we could have them knock on AI-generated doors. I'm getting layers than layers of my brilliance. We could put them in VR headsets to make them think they're knocking on doors. Yes. And then they knock on the door and they're just like, if you elect Andy Biggs, he will get to the bottom of the Lindsay Clancy case and get justice. and they'll be like, yes. I mean, this brings us to the,

when the robots look so much like humans and they start knocking on doors, like that's like, we're going to have a whole debate. Dude, I just watched, uh, robot door knockers.

I just watched that, that movie, you know, that movie series, Megan, um, there's like a spin-off called, uh,

called Soulmate. And I just watched that last night, and that's crazy. I mean, it's, it's, you know, similar kind of movie.

It's probably even crazier when you watch it at three times speed like Jack does. No, no, that one was at, I watched that one at two. That one was at 2x. But then I tried to do another movie at, it was just really bad. It was Aaron Eckhart and it was awful.

He had like a dog. I watched everything at 0.5X and then I have to keep rewinded it because I'm so distracted. He really wants to marinate in Lord of the Rings. Like all the scenes that he thinks are maximally gay. Imagine how long Lord of the Rings is at 0.5 X. Oh my God. I don't wonder he thinks it's good. All right.

The gay in slow mo is like not what we want to see. Tyler's an expert. on that sort of thing. Yeah, totally. Jack, send us home, will you? Jack, let's go. We've got to get out of here. So what we learned tonight or we learned tonight is there is a cure for feminism.

It is hard labor. It might be door knocking. We're not sure if Tyler is ready to co-sign that. But one thing we certainly have learned, young men, if you are in the dating scene, if you run the dating pool, a really quick way to know whether or not you're talking to a crazy person, ask her her her opinion on Lindsay. Plancy. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, go out there.

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