The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 139 — Lindsay Clancy Lunacy, Week 2?

Episode Date: August 22, 2026

The Thoughtcrime team reassembles to figure out why the Lindsay Clancy lunacy has reached such a fever pitch since the last episode. Can America survive this titanic battle of the sexes? Can America’s toddlers survive fifth-wave feminism? Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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feminists. We need to break all this down, break down all the insanity, all the thought crime. We've got the core group is here today, the original gang. It is Andrew, Blake, and Tyler. What's up, guys? What's up? I'm glad we're doing it. this again because I missed last week and there's a lot of craziness that has emerged in the aftermath. I look really after. This thing's still going. I mean, I know you were watching. So people don't realize that, you know, a lot of the time when one of us is off, we usually watch live. And I remember you were watching live and commenting, Andrew, like in the chat. And, and yeah, so this was one where we, you know, we're like, we've become predictive, right? It's like,

what's that minority report we're in like minority report of thought crime here when it came to lindsay because this one it got worse it it's actually in a weird way like it's hard to explain i i find all of this very troubling it's not good but some of the like conspiracy theories that we've lived through it's like one to one overlap like ven diagram of it and it's like okay people are starting to finally like realize the craziness that we've lived through because this in some ways is even more clear cut because it's like a woman who murdered her three children and somehow she's become the sympathetic figure she's become the victim i don't know how much money have they raised now like a million bucks it's a million bucks like that's insane

it's totally insane actually and and so i've been diving deeper into the story and it looks like this woman was basically like pill shopping you know she i don't know if she got addicted i mean certainly the system probably provided her with too much too much too many pills but like this narrative that the system failed her maybe it failed her because it like did what it's supposed to do too well i guess in this instance but she had all the medical help she could want a caring husband who was working from home trying to make it easier on her trying to give her she had caring family and yeah man i there's there's so many wrinkles here that it's it's hard to for me to fully wrap my my brain around it but at the same time the fact that the actual victims

these poor babies got strangled by an exercise band by their mother a couple of minutes at a time that the people cannot like one try to get away how is that not the center of this story one try to get away they're not no one's even talking about the facts of the case to you of like Like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the little boy that tried to run away, probably looking for his dad in his office. Yeah. By the way, which is like the most horrifying thing, dude, of the whole thing. I can't imagine what was going through their poor little mind.

She, she, she killed the other two kids in the basement. And then the one boy, the boy got away somehow because they found his body in the office and the dad's office. Oh, I didn't even know that detail. That's how I understood. I mean, I'm hearing third party. I'm trying to catch up with all these details. I'm just listening to other people, their commentary on it.

And that's like been the one thing that stuck with me the most is that the dad was out running an errand. Yeah. That was probably, my guess is because she's crazy and like going through these episodes, right, that she's been going. Hearing voices. Hearing voices is that the dad's been probably far more present leading up to this moment, steps out to go run this errand seemingly thinking that everything was fine and the dad's probably at home in the office a lot the boy goes up to work from home yeah the boys the boy goes to look for the dad in the office the dad's not there she tracks him down and kills him because she what did you

Tyler speaking of the horrifying speaking of details did you see did you see the part about the um the phone call no what what it no so so this to me this I mean in addition to what you've said the one piece that sticks with me. So dad, he's, he's at CVS because he's trying to get pediolite because one of the kids was, I don't know exactly which one. One of the kids was sick. Yep. And so he went out to pick it up, but he was like, oh, they're out of the name brand

Pediolite and they only had the generic. So he calls his wife, right? And we've all been there as guys, right? You know, or you're like, is this the one? It's a, it's a meme. It's okay if we get the different one. It's a meme that guys can't. go to the grocery store without calling their wife like 50 times.

And that's me. I can't. Because you know you're going to get in trouble. I know you're going to get in trouble. Especially if you're preparing dinner. I can't pick up one thing to the grocery store without turning to a 45 minute thing at least. And I call my wife 15 times. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. But so we calls her and then she has an answer. And so they don't know the exact time frame of obviously the killings. Like they have they have an estimate. But they know the time frame.

of the phone call because obviously there's a timestamp, but also he's on camera at the CBS. So there's a timestamp there. And then she calls him back. So she called him back while he's at the CVS and they have a conversation about the pediolite. And she's like, you know, he asked her, if it's okay, it's okay because of generic,

she says that's okay. And then he said what was her demeanor while she was on the call? And he said she felt, distracted or it felt distracted as if she was doing something he said i thought she was giving the kids a bath or something my goodness she's probably in the midst of me in the midst so this there's a yeah there's a possibility that she called him like while she was doing the middle or or even right after well look at this b-roll i saw uh and wokeness posted this it's number one on the b-roll it's

and he put it as like she smirked i don't know that i see a smirk but it does freak me out watching this image. It looks like a woman possessed or something. I don't know. There was, so there was another video. I don't see the smirk, but her eyes look all the way to the left at some point before she turns her head.

You can see her eyes. Well, let's get, wait, let's get the image there. That even looked worse than this. It wasn't, it wasn't the one that Wokeness posted, but there was another one that I saw that was even, like, it almost looked like she was smiling. Oh, I don't know why that gives me the heby-jeebies, man. And here's probably because she killed her kids and she's smiling in court.

Well, I don't know. I didn't see necessarily a clear smile. I don't know if I even saw a smirk, but still, whatever that was. There was another one I saw that was like weird. And he also posted one where she's like smiling with her lawyer. Yeah. From like a day of the trial. I just threw this up, guys, because look at the physiognomy there.

An unreliable mother. So what is this? 1980s. What is this? It's like a physiognomy, man. manual or like for back from like they've measured bumps on people's heads or whatever don't don't marry a woman that has that that that way this this isn't like a meme that is a real illustration from uh vaught's practical character reader so here's what's interesting is our frontlines

team tpso frontlines has gone out to the courthouse to cover some of this stuff this stuff is bananas what they're covering and these some of these clips have gone like pretty viral millions of and stuff like this. So hat tip to the TPSA Frontlines team. Let's play cut two. Thank you. Go see a high. Show a high to Lindsay is a mental health. If you'll ever have

this many women in one place at one time who may understand all of us on a level that others don't. It's got a baby throwing their hands up in hearts. Yeah, so let's keep going.

Clip three. They're cheering on, by the way, Lindsay Clancy's defense attorney at that point. as he's entering the courthouse. Which, whatever, she has a right to her defense attorney. Nobody's arguing that, but the fact that all these women are out there that have, by the way, I don't think it's just whatever.

I think it's the fact that they're celebrating her is a huge problem. This is what's crazy. These women either took time off their jobs or they have husbands that do the work and they stay at home moms. Whatever the heck is going on here. They're retired. They're going out of their way. Taking times out of their life to go.

and cheer on a triple homicide, I guess, murderer. Yeah. Yeah, I was about to say suspect. She's confessed to it. So more clips. This is Clancy's supporters cheering as Clancy drives by, apparently. Clip four. The Frontlines team, the TPSA Frontlines team has actually had a ton of great clips of that.

Yeah. Of those celebratory lines of women. Actually, I just lives a TikTok reposted the TPSA Frontline. lines team who's doing an incredible work by the way the front lines team is incredible at tpsa but i thought it i thought it was really funny what you guys post i think jack you put in the chat that uh lindsay clancy is is white women's oj which i i object to only on the sense that is it actually even the case are white women worse than this i feel like i've seen tons of the tons of the Tons of the true crime brain.

It's true crime brain. It's TikTok brain. It's brain rot. It's brain rot. I don't know. I just don't want to go where it's like, oh, it's, this is like white women's problem. Yeah, but white women is like, oh, J today.

Well, wait, go look at the crowds, Blake. Look at the crowds. Less than any other race of women. This is my problem. This is my problem. People love to say like white women. Well, people want to crap on white women because it's like the safe target. How many of those are white women?

I'm not a lib. So I'm not going to go like, oh. These are all white women in this video. Yeah, because they'll probably have the time to go do it. Are you telling me to deny what my eyes are seeing? That's not. There's like a browner one there I saw. There's one with a tan.

The demographics do not reflect the United States of America. Now who's, now who's the truther. I think that's like a brown one right there at the start. Like, okay. Guys, I'm not afraid to say it on thought crime because this is thought crime. We have a college educated, Caucasian, female problem in the United States.

Yes. Obviously. They have such, and we've seen it. Every major problem where society is essentially massively wrong on an issue from COVID to castrating children to Lindsay Clancy now to other things that we've seen. This is the least lib race is whites. That's right. It is it is this.

I'm actually freaked out too, and I don't want to transition away from this, right, at all. But like last night, I was standing at, I was at the Noah Khan concert. I put this in the chat. And, you know, who's a Hicklib, you know, we, I don't want to, again, we, I know Jack, the Jack really loves this topic so we could turn this into something else. But I was surrounded by women that were showing up to this. One wrong move. And no, my question that I was asking myself throughout the entire thing, because this guy's lib, he's progressive, super, progressive from Vermont and he sings folksy type music. I was wondering to myself how many of these

people coming here subscribe to this. Well, totally. You know what the whole thing is and it's concerning. It's been interesting to watch because their whole like hook where they're like, you guys are just being a bunch of chauvinist men and you don't understand postpartum depression is real. Guys, nobody's saying postpartum depression is not real. A few people are saying that. We're simply saying it. It's not an express. It's not an excuse to go murder your kids. What are we even talking about here? We got a comment. Pencurt 13 said,

in our comment thread on Rumble, her husband did it. Oh. The weird thing is, I think that's totally delusional and crazy. At the same time, that offends me less than the takes

that are basically, she did it, but should not face any guilt for it. Like, okay, if you delusionally believe her husband committed the murder, that's dumb. Why does it offend you less?

Yeah, I'm equally offended. I mean, both are bad, but it really creeps me out where people are saying she killed her children and I just don't think she's a murderer. I think she should get, I think she should be released back to the public, which is what these people are effectively saying. I think I'm equally offended by both. Microplastics are becoming too much of a problem to ignore. They're in 94% of U.S. drinking water, 94% 90% of our meat and seafood and the average American inhales, get this, 68,000 microplastic particles each and every single day.

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I actually think this is a church. There's the church essentially of white women, right? And so they subscribe to one thing. They go to church every single day on social media. Yeah. They subscribe to the exact same podcast. They listen to the same. They're following the same TikToks.

They follow the same TikToks. They're in the same. Believe it or not. And this is everybody on social media. So it's not just women. It's like really siloed in your thinking. Totally. You're in your own algorithm. And so this is algorithmic church, white women church.

And what's happening is we're seeing, you can disagree, Blake, but you can see in people that go to churches that subscribe to different cultural groups, they have group think. This is mass group thing. Mass psychosis is a thing. Like this whole thing. And I don't even go to psychosis. I just think it's mass group think because there's different layers.

is insane. Well, there's insane people that are leaders of the, of the, the PACs, so to speak, right?

And we've seen that even with people who have, like, been evil, which Charlie's name or Eric. C.K. Truthers and the Lindsay Clancy. And you and me

and Blake and whoever else, right? So we have some, like, we kind of have PhDs a little bit of this now at this point. But again,

there's layers to it, right? There's people who are like, oh, yeah, I mean, I kind of like you, but I have questions. Oh, yeah.

I don't like you. you, but I have questions. Oh, yeah, I'm just going to make up like crazy stuff. Oh, yeah, I'm just going to make up even crazier stuff. And there's like layers to it. Again, I, I, and there's different, there's different, like, chiefs in different camps and all those different layers. But the point is, is that it's all spawning from the same algorithm.

I'm actually curious. Are you guys seeing more that Patrick Clancy killed her is actually the one who killed the kids? Or are you seeing more women just saying she had postpartum psychosis? That's real and you're a terrible person for judging. You're a man. You're not allowed to judge it. Yeah.

I've seen more of the postpartum stuff than the Patrick. People getting confused between depression and psychosis. I'm seeing both. Yeah. I think that's the majority of it. But there is a very large contingent that says it was Patrick and including very large TikTok followers, which are people with large TikTok followers, I should say, which I think is driving a lot of this because, you know, people are, you know, it's the algorithm rewards, whatever the most outlandish thing you have to say.

So whoever says the most outlandish thing, oh, it was the husband. And now, by the way, they're currently trying to say that the husband was secretly on a trip in Costa Rica with the new wife, like the week after the murders and all this. And they're going through like social media pages and stuff.

And so I wanted to play if I could because, Russ says, Russ says I'm seeing more of the husband. So that's interesting. word. I think it also depends on where you're looking. Like on on on on X, I think it's more Post part of the DVD, but I do think

Russ is right that if you look on TikTok and stuff, it's it's more the husband. But but before you go to that clip, Jack, and this is what I've noticed from our stuff, right? And like the people that make up crazy conspiracies around Charlie or whatever, right? And this is what I've learned from it

is that the blocking and tackling that essentially happens from what people would largely call like the fair game arguments right or the like the debate right or debating things that are more fair right like it's it's a fair debate to have a debate over how america treats depression and causes depression and all that stuff right that's that's really at the heart of i think most good people's points that are trying to wait into this discussion but not really thinking about you know oh well at the end of the day i'm like actually i look like i'm defending a murder

i think there's there's a contingency a large contingency of people but the blocking attack that comes from that debate is it enables the people who are making up yeah the natural outflow is it gives cover to the other people what i don't think these people realize is that you by by accidentally by accidentally defending a murderer by starting a live debate on postpartum psychosis or depression or whatever you actually are creating a world in which all these crazy people can make up this lie about the dad murdering and then nobody goes after that person because it hurts your argument when a crazy this is politics 101 right when the craziest person in your camp comes out

and makes your entire argument look bad you're never going to attack the most vile and in this part of politics and people get mad in left versus right politics for this because they're like, well, why aren't you constantly going after Nick Fuentes or constantly going after whoever, right, is like the most hated person on the internet today, right? Or people are saying that about Tucker or whoever else right now. It's like, guys, we're focused on building and all that stuff, right? And those people naturally exist because they have their own opinions or whatever. But you're right, the algorithm rewards the craziest stuff.

But it creates that, right? Yeah, it creates because when you're focused on your debate and your argument, if it's 90%, it allows for those things to exist. And we've seen that, that's been largely the situation when we've had to do it. And I've had a ton of time to reflect upon this, which is like,

how do these people exist? Well, it's the people that are, like, started at least in a genuine spot that were like, I don't trust the government and da-da-da, and I don't trust, you know, police or I don't trust the FBI. Like there's a lot of players here that, like,

people just naturally don't trust, right? Politicians, da-da-da, all this things. And like, I actually, agree with that, but it's created this world in which the craziest and these people are never going to handle those people because they never want to cede any ground on their debate.

Yeah. By the way, Zuzu's Pettles says every mom supporting Lindsay Clancy needs to have CPS check on their kids. I don't disagree. She also just pointed out, yeah, the good facts. Like, she was a maternity ward nurse. She knew about postpartum depression and

she was still medication shopping. She was doctor, shopping. And she points out, I've seen this take a few times with different, you know, puppies with kittens. She says, if she murdered kittens, people would be flipping out more. And I think that's right. I think her puppies. If she is, if she murdered, if she'd murdered a bunch of family, if she's murdered another family's dog instead, like one, people would want life in prison and they would not make it. I'm telling you. This is like abortion culture that's bleeding in. It's, affected the way that we think about the sanctity of life, especially with women where they're

like, shout my abortion and like, oh, this pregnancy and this being a mom. mom is so heavy upon me and I have compassion on the mental load that this has been put upon her, all this stuff. A take I saw that's interesting. This is from Paul on X, but his ex account is woman definer. And he says, fifth wave feminism is pivoting from men being the problem to men and kids being the problem. It's true.

And there's something to that. So it gets out a bigger picture thing that I find really interesting. There was a chart I saw highlighted by the Institute for Family Studies, I think. And the percentage of 12th graders who want kids, if they're conservative, it's 90% and it's been 90% forever. For independence, pretty similar. For like Democrat or liberal identified 12th graders, it was 90% in the past, same as everyone else. And around 2011 or maybe 2014, one of those years, it started to drop. And now it's only at about 70% and it keeps going down.

We are getting a political. political alignment of basically the left actively viewing kids as bad. Slightly salty in the chat is saying, hey, you should inform more people about postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis. We're actually not qualified even to like inform people about those things. I mean, I'm not. And so isn't it like one in ten women get postpartum depression? Yeah, but here's what I do know. Here's what I do know is that postpartum depression is is something that many people get and is treated.

and doesn't lead to killing your kids. Postpartner psychosis is you are going, you are a, you are an enemy to yourself. You have a lot of things, and very few people get it. It's like, I think I looked it up, I can't remember. I'm looking it up right now. It was, it's, I think it was one in, I can't remember. I'll wait for you to pull it up. Yeah, I'm pulling it.

But it's, it's, it's extraordinarily rare in. comparison to postpartum depression they both just lead with a prefix can depression lead to psychosis there's arguments about all those things again that we don't we're not qualified to talk about the point of our conversation is that we're not talking about the effects we're not even debating the the impact that postpartum depression or postpartum psychosis has on a society we know it exists it's 10 20% of women people shouldn't be celebrating a woman that murdered three children That's all we care about. 10 to 20% of women giving birth get postpartum depression.

So 10 to 20% depending on the stat that you look at. Postpartum psychosis is much rare, approximately one or two per 1,000 birth. So 0.1 or 0.2% incident rate. And then basically postpartum depression is a mood disorder, similar to major depression. Postpartum psychosis is a psychiatric emergency involving a break from reality, including hallucinations, delusions, severe confusion rapid mood swings mania uh anyways jack you were trying to chime in there yeah well not even that i just there was a clip that johnny st p pulled up this morning

where um do you guys remember the susan smith case in 1994 she uh she murdered i watched these clips and i couldn't understand them it was the wildest thing like there's like black gals in there yeah black gals from like i don't know like urban wherever this was do you remember Is this Philly? Let's play it first. Let's play it first. It's South Carolina. So this was, this took, if you remember the 1990s, this was like the big thing, huge story.

It was kind of in between, I guess, O.J. And but then Pre-Columbine, I mean, this story was everywhere. Blimeon wrote a song about it. And it was about a mother who she strapped her kids into a car. And she let the car drive into a lake and they both drowned. and here was how mothers reacted when she arrived at that courthouse in 1994. I mean, it's terrible to take two in them from the baby life. They don't even know what the world is about.

They don't even know the beginning of school. They don't know nothing. And I feel she don't deserve a death of me. She deserved the same thing that she needs to know. It's sad. I mean, don't sense in it. And me won't know. I would never forget what for that.

All right, I'm going to need someone to translate that. I actually caught at that time. Like, there's no experience. excuse for that. She deserves the same thing. Those women, those kids got, yeah, they were calling her a baby killer. They're screaming at her. Murderer. It shows how much, a lot of this is whipped up because by default, there are crime, you know, most murders even do not get tons of public attention.

And it shows kind of the mob element of it, that it wouldn't shock me if a lot of, like, the same people who decided to show up at that courthouse to, like, scream at the criminal dependent to call her a baby killer could be have their buttons pressed in a different way to show up and scream in support of lindsay today yeah i don't know i just i think that i i give what you're saying that like people people get emotional and then they react but but i would also just say that in the 1990s right the the only acceptable public reaction was was shock and horror and vehement outrage at the killing of these children and that's why they were you can go back can look and there's like blind melon which is like a pre-known well-known like alt rock band

from the 90s wrote a song about this there's other songs you can look up it was just something that there's a character in that HBO show Oz that's based off of this disgusting person and i found this video of uh so she was up for parole and uh in 2024 and the husband her ex-husband so the father went up and actually spoke and was just it's one of the saddest things I've ever watched and I haven't clipped it yet but I'm going to and you know he's saying that you know she robbed she robbed our future from us

she robbed their future and she's never one shown remorse in all these years she's next up for parole in November 19th 2026 it's crazy yeah so it's like it's like every two years now yeah so he actually argued against her getting out which good she was

unanimous and he's got the way yeah and he's got other so he's had you know remarried and had other kids who are now older and then those kids went up and said you know these would have been our big brothers yeah it's just awful i just i i i think where we started this thing is like it's horrible is the truth it's like i a couple of times during this news cycle i've i've thought about those kids in a really like deep personal way and just imagine the terror the terror the terror that they experience in their final moments. It's just, it's so excruciating to think about.

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this was uh, Bo Diddle who was yeah, Bo was interviewing them and he's out front. So let's go to 27. To the people that are upset and believe that she killed her three children and she should be convicted, what would be your message to them? grateful for you that you never experienced even remotely what women experience in postpartum. Yeah. And admittedly, she did admit to killing them, but the woman you see now is completely different from the woman who did that to her kids. And I think it's really difficult for people to hold two truths that may seem opposite simultaneously. She can be a wonderful, loving mother. she did this horrible thing that she was so sick.

I mean, I've seen the testimony every day. I can see how devastated she is. And I believe her. I believe her. I just say the same thing. My response to this is always to just go back to no one would ever in a million years say this about a person who did a mass shooting and they could have the exact same life history otherwise. Of shopping to doctors, getting on pills. Oh, you know, normally.

He was just a great guy. And then, you know, unfortunately, he woke up one day and assembled an AR-15 and went and shot a bunch of people. I can't imagine sitting next to a person like this on an airplane or something. Like, I can't believe that people like this sit next to me on airplanes. We have more guys. There's the Bose out there. More clips. Sot 28.

Does anyone have a message for Lindsay? You support you, Lindsay. We are all here for you. And we hope for a change. What would be your message to the people that's, say she murdered her children. I think there's more to this story that people don't understand. If you watch a trial, you'll see that.

And I think we all need to educate ourselves in postpartum. I certainly have been educating myself. And my heart goes to her. And I just hope for the very best for her. Gosh, it's hard for me to watch, man. There's all these other, like, videos, too, of these women going around, like holding their baby, like throwing ice and, like, raging and it like all i get i get like very witchy vibes like i do i is something about it man

it's like oh yeah that woman all real that that original woman on there like the the the immediate justification for a murderer and be like basically i mean she was basically saying just let her go i'm worried that there's like this like kind of mass break with reality happening right now all i can legitimate yeah here here's the oh here's the gal she's and she is she a mom she's a mom right guys She says she is. I haven't followed the rest of her account. But yeah, she's screaming. So she's throwing this ice into her tub saying that when I go in here and let out my rage,

also while filming herself for social media cloud, by the way, that that allows me to, quote, feel angry without being destructive. And I get that there's a level of performativeness to all of this stuff, like I said before. But I think there's people who do this, even when it's not on social media, or they do it in earnest and don't even realize that they are just doing it for the clout and the, look, she's got edits in this, right? Like, it's like she's making a video. You know, but she's training herself. She's training herself. Like, she believes it. Get the, get the pats on the back for this.

Right. Which again, which again, this is the scary part. This is the scary part in the same way that like. It's incentivization. Yeah, this is the scary part with the same with like mass murderers and people like copycats is all of these women. Again, again, even if they feel this way, which is not acceptable, totally unacceptable, totally broken society. But they are incentivizing copycats. They are telling, we are going to see dozens of women hurt their children probably.

and I mean, who knows? Who knows how this? Because they're going to watch. I think we said this last week, right? We said that that someone will do this again because they want to be the new the new Lindsay Clancy.

I don't think it'll be because they want to be. I don't think it's quite as simple as that, but it is the high profileness of it. No, that's the final boss. What it is more is like, it's seeding the meme in people's brains as like a thing you might do if you're crazy. The same way,

Like the same way school shootings work actually. That like why do, why does America have school shootings? Partly it is that it is in like the script that if you're an extremely anti-social screwed up young guy, that that's like a thing an extremely screwed up young guy does is to specifically shoot up his school. And so similarly, we're kind of getting the script set that if you're really depressed and you're on a bunch of pills and not going well, this is a thing that you're. your brain can pull out of the symptom jar in kind of the same way that if you're a girl in the 90s, the scripts might say, oh, a girl who's depressed and unhappy might become anorexic. And that comes and goes away. Or a girl who's depressed today might have gender. That's still the point, though. The point is, if these are the scripts that we're allowing to run in our society, then they can destroy our society, right? Whether or not it's like a script or a deliberate decision. Like, that's kind of, I get what you're saying totally. But that's kind of metaphysical from the point of like, Women are going to go kill their kids because of this. And that's the reality that we have to deal with.

Well, and what freaks, yeah, and what freaks me out about this whole thing is that they're going to a person that's crazy, that's actually crazy, which is the same definition as being in psychosis. You're crazy. You're a crazy person. You've lost your mind. You need to be, you know, take, you need to be taken care of at that point. Like, if you're having. And you need to be removed from your children. You need to be removed from your children from society.

You should be in a padded cell in most cases, right? That's what we used to do. And the fact is those that we're not. We're never going to do that. America's not going to go back. It's never going to do stuff like that. We're going to continue to prop up these people. And what they're going to say to themselves is, you know,

when they're in that final moment of making a decision to do something like that that they've been thinking about. Clearly, I think, obviously, Lindsay Clancy was thinking about how she was going to kill our kids. numerous times, which is how she, in a premeditated way, figured out what she would use to kill him. And she intentionally sent her husband to the store to do this because she knew she would have enough time because husbands take 50 minutes to buy one thing. Yeah. And so in the same way that, you know, that you now have women that are going to do that. And when they're in that break in that moment where they make the decision of like, I just can't do this.

is why they're going to say well at least if i do it at least i know i'm going to have fans this is why the moral clarity on this is so important she she belongs in prison or the death penalty like obviously it's massachusetts it's not going to happen but point is that is why that messaging is so critical that you cannot see it an inch on this because it could end up becoming a thing right we were talking about this this um what they call um genetic psychosis or something like that out of ancient Greece. So there's a whole... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, this is just Myelitis. So the story, this is a story that... I wonder if you know about this story.

It's just a story. It gets posted a few times. No, I think it got posted originally about the trans stuff. But there was a suicide epidemic in the city of Miletus in Greece. It's a big city. And these like young teenage women, like one killed their self. It got a lot of attention. And then it became an epidemic. Young women kept committing suicide. And finally, the arc on of the city or whatever their title was announces the next next woman who does this, we are going to strip her body naked and we are going to hang it from the city wall and let the birds eat it. And there were no more suicides in my latest after that.

Isn't that wild? Yeah, I mean, there's something about female sisterhood hive brain, I think. Yeah, but also shame works really well in here. So, you know, we write about this in, we have a fifth wave feminism chapter in the new book. And we, we, we have a fifth wave feminism chapter in the new book. and we write that shame is a great way to fight back against this. And so that's why, and as a message, to any women out there who do things like this, we will shame you. We will post your videos, which you've already posted online, by the way. So these are public videos that you posted for the whole world to see.

Your kids are going to see them, especially you freaks that are posting these images with your kids. Can you imagine someday growing up? We're going to find in the TikTok of your mom Like finding these Ticktok Like basically saying that like you You sympathize with a murderer And like

You want me dead mom? Or even just the posts that are like I hate being a mom And I'm like posing like sobbing I have to give a shout out to still boneless by the way Who's a friend of ours on X So he posts this rage video I think it's 31 B roll

But his caption is amazing He goes when feminist with Instagram accounts have to change diapers instead of go to brunch with endless mimosas. This is how they react. I mean, I, I mean, that's, that's a good point, though. Like, how much of this. So, like, we talk about how there's this, this mass psychosis, but also how much of the depression is driven from Instagram brain to begin with, where it's like, you've got your baby and

your, you know, babies are a lot of work, right? So, you know, there's feeding and, and, and. and, you know, bathing and cleaning and caring and putting them down. It's like a 24-7 operation. And meanwhile, while you're with the baby, what do you have in your hand is your phone and you're scrolling Instagram and to his point, there's all your friends having mimosis, there's all your friends at brunch, and you're not there. And it's all because of the baby.

So suddenly it's like the baby is your oppressor. Is your enemy. And that's where the abortion debate starts, right? that nobody hones in on, which is just like, how many people, how many of these women are not, are seeing it without saying it is that they wish they had gotten an abortion. I'm sure a lot of them. But this is my, this is the point is that their defense, in my opinion, their defense of Clancy in many ways is that the, the admittance of not wanting to be a mom in general,

wishing that they had done the easy thing, which is an easy access to abortion, which is terrible, and this is the abortion culture. I think this is downstream of abortion culture. It's child sacrifice, man. Child sacrifice is oldest time. It's all Moloch. But this is some of the honest thought process that's going through

is, you know, do you think Lindsay Clancy had wished that she had aborted her children and that came into her head at some point? She never wanted me to be a mom. She was willing to kill them. I don't get the indication that she was mad about being a mom after the first two. Is that fair? I think she had it was much worse on the third one.

Well, obviously, to say at least. I have a thought-provoking question. At least, I don't know if you guys talked about this last week or not. But if Lindsay Clancy was like a one or a 10, because like, I don't know, people describe her as mid. Oh, oh. she's just attractive. I talk to a friend and her tape. She's attractive enough. She's like the girl you'd be

next to it. She's six. She has the exact look as like a woman. She is the exact appearance of a woman who would be the unjustly like accused woman in a made for TV movie. Like that would not be a 10 out of 10 and it would not be a zero out of 10. It is a woman who is attractive enough. That is who would be cast in that role. She's not five. She's not. She's not five.

So she's mid, right? She's not five. No, she's Taylor Swift. Because a five is not attractive enough. That's average. She's a six. So she's just a little bit more. Oh, Tyler's picking an old scab there.

I'm going to, I'm going to get hammered. She's like the same as Taylor Swift. You remember that thought crime where Tyler just went off on how Taylor's, Taylor Swift was like a four. Yeah. Well, people still get mad at me for saying that Taylor Swift was overweight on her tour, but she was and she lost a lot of weight before her wedding.

So I said Taylor Swift was a four. I have not received more hate. Taylor Swift was never overweight. And she is objectively. I'm not an attractive on her tour. I remember that I'm going to give a popular pain. Why did she lose all that way for a wedding, Andrew? Why did she lose all that way?

Come on. Andrew Cole vet. Andrew Cole vet posting Cole. Andrew Cole vet. No, no way. You guys are crazy. Anyways. The younger picture.

Here's my question. If she was a 10, would she be getting all of this sympathy? No. No. If she was a zero, would she be getting all of this sympathy? No. No. She has to be exactly this.

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and they'll send you a free 10 ounce silver bar when you open a new qualified account. Mention the Charlie Kirk Show, that's all you got to do, and they'll do the rest. Yeah, I guess that's a good point. You have to be exactly relatedly mid. I'm telling you, this is... And by the way, and by the way, again,

I'm not pointing to the video that was taken by TPSA, or by front lines, the front lines crew, but a lot of these people that we've seen are really unhappy mids. I'm just telling you. There's the whole lot of thought crime that we were saying. I don't care. We need to do a whole thought crime on the psychology of a mid.

I'm a mid, dad bought. I don't care. I get admitted. I'm not like thinking like I'm some kind of like hot, you know, commodity in my age. But I'm saying a lot of the women, I'm happy.

A lot of these women that I've seen that come up with these conspiracies and like all varying different conspiracies, but specifically around like this this Lindsay Clancy thing almost all of them they're they're usually like they used to be maybe attractive and they've lost the step and they really hate themselves maybe their husbands maybe they're single I don't know but like they have this like deep profound self-loathing or just like resentment or unhappiness like in general I think we have an epidemic of women being very unhappy just unhappy

Yeah. No, just unhappy. It's like, just be happy. I think that's Instagram brain, though. I think, and Blake has talked about this a lot. 100% where you compare yourself. So if you go back to the ancient, ancient world, right? You'd be in a village. You would, as a woman, you would be comparing yourself to approximately 23 other women that were maybe your same age. And that was your whole world. That was all you could compare yourself. So you just wouldn't have probably such standouts. But now on Instagram, you're comparing yourself to the whole world. It's pretty funny. This is actually having like macro effects. For example, for example, fertility rates have fallen really hard in the third world in last six, seven years, much faster than in the first world. And this is one, not even Bollywood.

They're just comparing themselves to the first world. They watch, they can get the same TikToks. So they can see a TikTok of the West. They can see a TikTok of people partying in Los Angeles, even if they live in Hyderabad. And so they, it's a flattening of standards. across the world when it's a standard almost nobody in your entire country can meet. There's a lot of interesting stuff. I wonder how much like Instagram is like driving mass migration.

But this is the point with all of the point that you're making. And TikTok. Which is that most most things in life are pretty mid, right? Like go to the DMV. Like the life is like you'll see a lot of lows to mids. Most people, you know. This is the famous Seinfeld scene where he goes, he goes, most people are ugly. Like they have this whole conversation.

And it's not like ugly, ugly, right? Like, life is beautiful. Everyone has their own beauty and uniqueness. And everyone's a, you know, a constellation or a snowflake or whatever. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. But, like, the point is it's like... Qualifier, qualify.

But, like, we're all pretty similar to each other. We're all pretty... There's the standout, like, most beautiful model-esque people in this world. There's the standout, most beautiful, you know, expensive vacations in this world. But most vacations are mid. But it's not even... Everyone's experience... Yeah, I was going to say, but that's what Instagram does, right, Jack?

Instagram. If you've got your family trip, you're comparing your family trip to the Instagram model family trip who everything's perfect and they get the free rooms and everything's beautiful. It's also it's also re-get mimicking behavior. So this is why there's a lot of places like Santerini Greece, right? This is like become this big place on Instagram because they're like, oh my gosh, where is that? Oh my gosh, where is that? I'm like, I got to go. I got to go. And it's like it's cool. Like we actually went, right? We kind of allow, I enabled, right? and that it's just one of those things that like it wouldn't exist or uh i think zion is a big one as well in yeah yeah but jack jack but maybe you can confirm this like santorini right what happens

is that people show it and it's like you see the picture you see the top five star hotel but you see the five star hotel but there's no one there and it's like the white buildings and everything and then you get there and this is why i've heard about greece i haven't been and it's like crowded it's crowded. It's fact. That was my experience. Yeah. Yeah. So it depends. If you go, if you go on a cruise, because then you're getting there like when all the cruises arrive.

So like you're with the throngs of people. Greece itself, Athens, I thought was kind of dirty. Sorry. It's just true. And but yeah, so if you stay there, you can have, you can have a good time. Actually, what I thought was fun and I'll just shout it out because I had been, I was doing this speaking engagement

in Serbia and then I realized how close Greece was and we figured it out. That I realized that you can get like four-wheelers on Santorini. So at first I was like, I was like, I so don't want to be here. But then I was like, wait, I can get a four-wheeler and just tool around the island. So once I got that, I was like, this is great. My wife and I did our baby moon for our first kid in Mekanos. And that was super cool.

Oh, yeah. That was the last time I was actually in Europe, believe it or not. I'm just like such a homer. I love being in America. So that was like my last real internet. I mean, I probably went to Mexico or something in the. in the midst of it. But anyways, my point is that women are comparing themselves to a lot of really, like, beautiful things online. And it's like home. It's like, I'm not, it's not even just how hot you are. It's like how put together your family comes across. How happy their family is. How beautiful their vacation was. How nice their home decor is. Like, constantly at every single stage of their life, they're comparing stuff. Every single thing. The home thing is like, yeah, I'm telling, I'm telling you right now. I know Jack wants to get to.

Yeah, go ahead. So this is, yeah, no, you're 100% right. Instagram brain. It's constant comparisons and it's, it's wrecking relationships. It's wrecking women's brands more. It's escalating. Yes. So it was, it was, it's getting worse.

It was looks. It was, it was, it was cooking. It's, it's, it was vacations. It was makeup. It was wardrobe. It was vacation. It's everything. And it's bad on so many levels.

It's bad. I'm getting to it. But it's, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's it. It's escalated now to homes. Yeah. And beyond that, right? Like, and again, there's always been a sense of keeping up with the Joneses across the country and at church and things like that, right?

But again, to this point, you have unlimited keeping up with the Joneses and you will never keep up and you will die trying to keep up. And I think that's what we're seeing. We're seeing the death of the modern American woman and trying to keep up with the Internet Joneses. Well, that in a weird way, Would you believe me if I told you that that feels like it's kind of a white pill in that the selection this is causing? No. What I mean is this is absolutely vaporizing a ton of people, but it's vaporizing them so hard that we're like deleting the people who are vulnerable to this from existence.

Yeah. So, I mean, it's just like it's becoming a political issue whether you even want children. Not even how many you have. It's not political like, oh, conservatives will have two kids and liberals will have one. one. It's becoming like intense conservatives are having three or four kids and liberals are having zero. Yeah. Liberals don't even want to get married. Liberals don't want to date. I'll never forget. So guys guys. And so no no, sorry. And so it's happening here. Like we're selecting so hard against this and we're selecting against all these bad Instagram trends of the keeping up with the Jones thing.

Being addicted to it generally the way and then it's bad on somebody else because it's bad because it's bad because it makes you compare. It's bad because you watch tons of short videos and that makes your brain kind of melt and you become stupid. We're selecting against this turbo hard. And in 30, 35 years, the only survivors are going to be the people who are, were not destroyed by this and had kids. And that's somewhat positive. Yeah. What were you saying, Jack? Jack was going to get to chime in. Yeah. So if we want to do a other thought crime, just, I know, you know, we're getting close to the hour mark here. And, and here's, here's the other piece of it. Like, there's a reason why a lot of women do not like the man here. And a lot of conservative women have reached out to me.

I'm not going to name names, but have said, you know, I agree that she did it, but I feel like there's something wrong with the man. And they'll keep saying over and over to feel like there's something wrong or feel that there's something wrong. And it just has to be said, guys, Patrick Clancy was a beta, okay? And you look at all of his behavior. It's all beta behavior. It's all enabling behavior. It's all, oh, we can make Lindsay better. I can fix her.

it's okay that she treats me like this like you really think that this was like she'd been committed before she'd been committed she's on Sarah Quillian anti-psychotic she's on all these things and he's still keeps the kids there and didn't take the kids away and separate the kids that's a fair point but if your if your wife

gets committed and you love her and you're like trying what what is the right well it feels weird it does feel like I think there is an element with some of these mental illnesses, which are real, where they do gain strength,

the more they are able to draw people in to accommodate them. It's called codependency. Sort of, yeah. Like, what's weird to say is I feel like Lindsay Clancy's kids would be alive if her husband was like a coal miner or something. And like he just, or if he was like a sailor on, like if he was in the Navy and just straight up was gone for eight months. Go.

Oh, you're depressed? Sorry, I cannot come back. I am physically on a ship and cannot be with you. You need to hold this down. And it might have sucked. She might have been miserable or she might have even been less miserable. But it would not have unfolded this way. There's like a modern approach to this stuff.

And I said this on our daily show. But, you know, I remember I was in the traveling through the UK years and years ago. And I met this like old-timey, like old school Brit, you know. And he was like, I don't do therapy. I just have a beer with my mates down at the pub. and that's what we do. And like, I know that's kind of tongue and cheek,

but there is something to it where we, where you go so hard on like, we need help. The system failed her. She needed all these meds. And we needed health care professionals around her 20, like, no,

the system didn't, like, what more would the system do for her? She needed like old school, like, we're in the greatest generation for systems. Like, we have the most systems,

the greatest system, the biggest system, the biggest system, that's ever existed in the history of the world, arguably. Like, and it's, you're, you're trying to, we've created our own problems, obviously. It's like, it's so obvious. But it's just an enabling. I think the modern culture is enabling.

So, right. So maybe the system is the problem because, think about it. What kind of woman is going to respect her man if you just had a baby and the mother is, excuse me, and the man is, what kind of woman is ever going to respect a man where you just had a baby and the man is acting in the role of your own mother, right? The man is not supposed to act like a grandmother. A man is not supposed to act. That's your, that's your mom's role, all right, to help out around the house and in traditional cultures, that's what mom does when a baby is born. Mom comes by, they move in, they hang out. Families used to live closer together. Tyler, you know what I'm

talking about. And that's where the family support network used to come in because moms didn't have to, quote, unquote, do it all by yourself and also have a career, right? That's where modern world and modern feminism comes in. And then, of course, you go to the doctor and you say, doctor, I'm feeling depressed. What is the doctor say, oh, here's your SSRIs and your Cerequil and your Lomicto and all these other things. And meanwhile, it's just like, no, you're upset because you feel like you don't have the support you need. And then you look at a husband operating in a female role and suddenly you think, oh my gosh, I don't know if he was. or not. I mean, I don't know if we know that or not.

Look at the facts. Just look at the facts. Was he operating in a female? I mean, stay home, stay home work, right? He's working from home, yeah, yeah. But like, doesn't mean he's operating a female role. I don't know. Look at the facts. He might have been. I just, I just don't know. But I'm saying that it used to be that was the role of grandmoms. Grandmoms used to be the ones that came in and did those things. Grandmoms helped out with the diapers.

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I saw a person ever seen. Yeah, but like, so a person smiled in a camera thing, I think we are over that, right? Come on. I don't know, man. Something about this. Here's what, here's what I believe about it. I'm not, I'm not pointing to think of her. No, it's Luigi Mangione stuff, which is just like, again,

the drilling into culture, I mean, the reality is, is that her support base has grown dramatically over this past week and it will continue to grow. I just pulled up a poll on Luigi Mangione, which was scary and we talked about this a lot at the time was that at the time, a poll of young people, over 45% of young people said they support what he did, a murder, right? And we talked about this and we debated this. I don't think she's going to get to like Luigi Mangione levels. However, the outward expression of support for her, again, similar to some of the stuff that we've dealt with and the conspiracy theorists around Charlie is that it's a, it's a minority of a super minority of people.

Maybe. But it's culty. Three percent, five percent. Super enthusiastic. But it has the effect of feeling like a 45 percent. They're like true believers, man. Yeah. So different from Luigi Mangione, I don't think there was, I mean, there was a ton of vocal people who were supportive.

It never felt like 45% of the world was like, it was like a half and half debate. It felt like a 10% maybe was like supportive of him. My concern is that when you have a super minority of people that feels like a 40%, which that's what this feels like right now. I'll be honest with you. Like, you go to the internet, like it feels like more people support this woman than support of Luigi Angie and Geode. Like that's how I felt this week. And, and that's where it, like, for me, it, like, it actually turns into a linen type

thing where it's like, do we have a society? Again, and coming out of COVID, this is probably a real thing where it's like a super minority of people can influence a majority of people. And this is where the Lindsay Clancy thing. That's Rachel Maddow's take. She thinks she can lead a revolution in America if she gets three percent. true believers out in the streets right i mean that's kind of how the left and the commies do things right so like you have that's exactly what they do so so you have a situation that and this is the underlying

effect and in tone of this whole thing that's really that's really freaking me out is that this is a super marxist driven and then you look at other people who are saying yeah okay you just inspired me on something though because i have thought a long time about this that if you are a foreign actor and you mean ill for the United States, you hate America, what do you do? You take really straightforward cases like Lindsay Clancy or even honestly Tyler Robinson. And then you create an online ecosystem where everybody that's like looking at the facts going like, well, she admitted she killed her kids. She, like the defense says that the prosecutor, everybody agrees she killed them. Like this is horrific. This is crazy. But then you nudge all these people and you

amplify the crazy voices so that everybody who's saying is looking online going like am i taking crazy pills here and i i i just happen to believe that like they're if i'm if i'm a foreign actor and i want to destroy america from the inside out and whittle away at the core character of the country i would just amplify all these crazy stories because it drives us crazy andrew i completely co-design it and and i completely agree and i was just having a phone call with somebody earlier today where, and I'll just say it, right? I've been thinking about this all week. And it just got to the point where I was like, you know what?

When we first heard about TikTok, what was the one thing that we were all saying? The Chinese Communist Party is driving these narratives. The Chinese Communist Party is a foreign actor that wants us to hate ourselves and obviously is communist and wants to divide Americans. And a lot of people were like, oh, it's kind of boomer. It's like a boomer take, et cetera, et cetera. And then you kind of look at the sort of things that have been driven lately, the Lindsay Clancy stuff, the Tyler Robinson stuff,

which is obviously meant to divide Americans and make Americans crazy. Then you look at, and I'm just going to say it, you look at the flock cameras where nobody was talking about that a couple of weeks ago. Nobody. And suddenly it's like a number one issue. Same with the data centers. You're like, wait, nobody was talking about this. And now all of a sudden all these people are talking about it.

And I'm just saying, I'm not even making it like a problem. pro data center argument here. I'm just saying that it's very obvious that a lot of these narratives are being driven. If you're trying to want America to hate data centers. I mean, you sure do. You sure do.

But by the way, I co-sponsor your idea to take over the Chinese Communist Party. I co-sponsor your idea, I co-sign it, to take over the old malls and the dilapidated urban core and the underuse that lives free. You remember that, right? You know, like, by the way, I don't want you to like rip up Virgin land.

And I feel that way about Amazon, but like I brought this up with somebody because it was like there was some poll that came out that was like Amazon fulfillment centers had like a really high approval rating and I was like these things are gross looking. They're huge. And the answer to me was yeah but they create jobs and I was like. Okay.

I don't create that many. I mean an Amazon fulfillment center will be like 100% robot in five or 10 years probably. That's what I'm saying. That is exactly my point. I mean I don't mind either way. The reason people like Amazon fulfillment centers is because they all order things off Amazon. And so they like

the idea of getting a thing for Amazon faster. A big gross box might as well be America's national building. Who are we kidding? I mean at some point. You live in Phoenix, Arizona. At some point these things will all be underground and they'll all just like pop up and it will feel good about it because the landscape will just go right over the top of these things. I think we're wrapping up here because we've reached our hour mark and I will take this. Me and Blake can take this

this, but I have to just say the Venn diagram of the CK. truthers and a certain other type of truther the Lindsay Clancy and the Charlie truthers it's almost one to one sought 35 Corinne writes I know you're busy but I'd love to know your thoughts I'm a Lindsay Clancy case in Massachusetts I made my thoughts clear on this the moment that she was arrested the moment that it made the news Lindsay Clancy is obviously not guilty there are a fleet of doctors who should be imprisoned so she actually man it's too bad they cut it down because And she also says it was intentional psychosis. She says the doctors,

the doctors intentionally gave her psychosis to, like, murder her kids, probably because, probably because, like, the Jews ordered them to or something. But you basically filled in the blanks there. Yeah. She goes on. But that's what I'm saying. We got a whole, in like in the weirdest way, I hate the story.

It makes me sad. But given what we've lived through, it's also kind of like one of those things where it's like, okay, now do you see what we've been living through? now do you get it Blake tweets at them every single day fighting in the trenches there's wild people man there's a lot of

incentive to believe insane things I mean I don't even think we can I know we were just blaming the CCP I don't think you need the CCP for it I think I think sadly all you need sadly all you need is an algorithm

that rewards people getting emotionally like emotionally worked up over things saying crazy crap and getting rewarded for it. Mental. Sorry, Blake. Yeah, but then it's, it's really what got it.

It was the Lindsay, I was thinking about it with the flock cameras, and I was definitely thinking about with the data centers. And then just because those were not narratives that anyone was talking about at all in the country. And then suddenly they're like hyper viral on TikTok. And it's like, wait, where is this coming from? And then you see those same with Lindsay Clancy. Because remember that the Lindsay Clancy case had happened, you know, forever ago. And suddenly just because it's on TV, now it's getting broadcast everywhere.

There are other cases that are on TV, too, by the way, that are not getting the same amount of traction at all right now. And look, you know, obviously we talked about last week and, you know, people can go back and see last week's episode that, yeah, I wish that we were having more of a conversation about Big Pharma because I think that's where we should be talking about, the Syracual, the Mictal, was she, you know, doctor shopping? I totally agree. That's a legit part of this conversation. because of all this insanity. We didn't even get into how SIDS might be fake and that. Oh, man. That's the darkest thought crime right now.

The 60s of the 70s where that woman had like five babies that all died from SIDS and then they found out she actually just murdered them. Shocker. I mean, I'm sure there's a bunch. But yeah, I mean, there's been some real studies that's like probably 10 to 20% of all SIDS cases were actual murder. That's dark. That's super. And that's... I know people that have...

Well, I don't know them personally, but I knew the grandparents that had a kid that just got a super massive fever in the middle of the night. No, for sure. For sure, there's like... So, yeah, I don't want to... If you're listening out there and you've experienced that trauma, I'd like, please, like, hear us. But you have our compassion. Like everything else, there's people. I mean, there could be...

But what you said is 10 to 20% maybe as some estimate it could be that high, which is crazy. That are claiming... Yeah. sudden death when it was actual murder. I hope that's wrong. All right. Jack. Actually, I do want to throw out one thing before we go since someone did mention it. Look, like we're not we're not psychologists here. You know, we talk for a living.

We're, you know, political analysts and activists, I guess. And we knock doors. If you feel like you are about to do something to harm yourself or others and you feel that you are down a bad path and you're in a bad place. Call 911. Call 911 immediately. Do not go to these other places

and apparently she tried to call some hotlines and it didn't go well. She spoke to her husband and didn't tell them the truth. Just call 911. The police will come and they could prevent possibly an emergency from taking place or they can get you where you need to go. Just call 911 and prevent it from happening

in the first place. On that note, I do. believe that Lindsay Clancy is living through a particular kind of hell that, you know, yeah, she needs to be found guilty and she needs to be held accountable. But like, man, the hell she's living through right now, it's got to be just, you know, I think. I mean, that's assuming she has rational thoughts and normal human emotions, which maybe she's just a psychopath. Maybe she's just, I don't know, completely out of touch. I mean, all people who, I mean, it goes all different directions right with people who have done these these things and where they end up and how they

how they recover i to me i just honestly don't care i don't care about her as i that's why we have to keep the moral clarity here yeah the moral clarity like you said like the moral clarity is that that people observing need to know that if you do this you are going to be you are going to be banished from society to the point of like again i believe in capital murder capital um punishment execution is that you should be executed and that young children people should realize like hey I better start working with my hands and get back to work so that my mind stays clear and I don't end up in the crazy house at some point and I think that that's honestly the thing because again of course these things weren't evaluated we talked about this last week at the same level

they are today but I do believe that when people were working Americans were working harder and they were working harder with their hands and doing more. They, they were, we had a better society. Well, that's like Churchill,

when he would struggle with depression, would just go like, didn't he like move bricks around or something like that? Wasn't what he did? Go dig, ditches. Yeah,

he, like, built a cabin outside of house. He would make himself do physical manual activities to clear his mind. There's a final question and then we take it away.

It's like, grog, grog, grog, grog, lift rock, make sad thoughts go away. Yeah, like for real. All right,

final question. And then we're going to have Jack take us home. Is the proper punishment, since Massachusetts doesn't have capital punishment, is the proper punishment asylum for life or prison for life? Prison? Even her own claim is not

that she's like, oh, an insane person. Like her gambit here, people will say, oh, she's found not guilty by reason of insanity. She has to be institutionalized. But she's such an obvious case where they basically say, well, we have no reason to hold her because she's not like a constant threat to murder

people and then they let her go. And like, no. she needs to go to prison. She murdered her children. The proper fate for those who do that is death, but failing that prison. Dr. Chloe Carmichael, shout out to her because she totally changed my mind on this. She pointed out, she said, look, it doesn't matter the medications. She made a choice. She conducted that behavior.

She premeditated. She made these phone calls. Dr. Chloe is a clinical psychologist, by the way. So someone who abs, she could prescribe those things. and has dealt with patients. He said, look, personal responsibility is real. None of those medications made her do that. She did that.

And so if she is, and by the way, she was found fit to stand trial already. I want to point that out. So she was found fit to stand trial. That's why she's on trial. So I'm saying prison for life. I'm a prison for life guy too. All right, Jack. Take us home.

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