The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 145 — Crime at Cornell? Top TV Shows?

Episode Date: October 3, 2026

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but also by other people. We're going to get into a lot of that. Who we have right now? We've got everyone. Tyler came in mid-opening. Oh, my gosh. Wait, wait a minute. He arrived exactly on time.

How did you manifest? Did you manifest him somehow? Landing the plane. And then I just helicoptered right in. Andrew is off doing something cool with families or whatever the heck you people have. And that means. That means. That means.

That means. Yeah, exactly. Colvette is off coaling with the vets or something. And so we have Mikey, Mikey McCoy, rejoins the squad, which is great because I think he's going to have very strong opinions on an exciting first topic. Very powerful stuff. I'm the deep bench recruit. Exactly. I'm the, oh, we're missing four or five people. The deep state. The deep state, yeah, something like that. Deep state, Mikey. Deep, deep bench Mikey. Deep knowledge of television, Mikey. because I think we want to start with something a little bit lighter. We were debating between this and an extremely heavy topic.

So I think we're going to ease people in. And that is the classic discussion topic of the New York Times made a list. So everyone argues about whether the list was correct. And this time, the list of New York Times made was the top television shows of the entire millennium. Wow. I haven't seen this at all. So I'm really interested in what horrible video. What's cool about the New York Times when they do it, I know they're annoying, but the New York Times has enough gravitas, enough prestige. They can get pretty serious people and like they can get a lot of them to respond. And so they got about 500 television professionals to vote on what they think the best 100 TV shows of this, basically of this century. So the past 26 years. And in the least surprising development ever, they said that number one was, that's right. It's not the Sopranos because the Sopranos, because the Sopranos,

debuted in 1999. It doesn't qualify. So we said number one what's that wait wait wait like let's let's set parameters real quick here because like like typically the sopranos is seen as you know the the start of the golden age of television so are the parameters from from like January 1st 2000 on is that we're saying yes exactly the sopranos actually debuted in January 1999 so even though by far the better part of its run occurred this century it has to do this millennium and so got cut out and instead the number one show actually

since you haven't seen it Tyler can you guess what the number one show was I just cheated I saw Oh you cheated Mikey have you cheated and looked at the list I'm looking at it right now you guys are all It probably would have been one of my top guesses though All righty well and I appreciate it because Charlie actually loved this show Oh did Charlie I never thought of Charlie as a guy who'd watch TV so the fact he watched it at all

It's probably pretty remarkable yeah he didn't watch a ton of this stuff, but I always thought it was really interesting how often he talked about how great this show was. Okay, well, we haven't said it actually. The number one show unsurprisingly, since it wasn't Sopranos, it was Breaking Bad. The

chemistry teacher with lung cancer becomes meth dealer show. Set in Albuquerque, our kind of crumier version of Phoenix to the east. No offense to Albuquerqueans, but it is true. And number two was the wire. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

before you go on did you know about this so a guy did a super cut of breaking bads all its seasons into a two and a half hour long movie what did you know how do you seen this wait oh yeah super cut what so i i never got to see because it gets knocked off the internet as fast as it gets i'm sure if you like have access to the the dark web like blake does like you could probably find this so you can't i don't know how to do it you but you There was a guy, a fan movie, he spliced all of it together. And apparently it makes perfect sense. So he took all the subplots and all the stuff he took out.

But like all the main themes for two, two and a half hours are squished into that. And it's just the whole show as one movie. And it's supposedly like an incredible movie. That feels like it would be really disorienting. Like a lot goes on in Breaking Bad. Do they just cut out season three or something? Again, I haven't watched it. I've just seen the commentary on it.

This guy, and you can pull up on IMDB. It's Breaking Bad Stitch into one, two-hour super cut. There's a link. I don't know, but it's been kicked off the internet. It was on the internet for years. I'll find it. I'll find it. I've always wanted to watch it.

So if you find it and you get access to it somehow into a box, I really want to watch it because people, people at the time, I think this was like 2017, 2018, people were raving about it. Huh. And it's, it's, I've heard about this. You've heard, you've heard, you've heard, you've heard, you've heard, you guys watch it. Because I have a confession.

I watched the first two episodes of Breaking Bad, and it wasn't really for me. I kind of stopped after that. Yeah. The only thing I remember is them dissolving that guy's body, and he didn't, he used the bathtub instead of the plastic thing. And so it eats through. That's the only thing I remember. I really got into it.

And here's the reason why I got into it. I, oh, that was great. There's not a ton of shows that are set in the Southwest. Like, there's just not a lot. and new mexico is like new me but it's kind of like i have some family in new mexico it's like such a weird place it's such an interesting place and i actually think find it like the entire setting got it of a show in that's intriguing to me that's like it's like it's set in albuquerque i feel like we i feel like america as well you found it already oh nice send it over to him i feel like as does i put in the

I want to see it. Like, guys, ask, like, if you ever need anything on the internet, just ask, I never even knew this existed. I found it before you finished commenting on it. So, yeah, I just put it in the chat. It probably wasn't even that hard to find, right? I feel like, by the way, all of you who are watching live should comment on what your number one show would be. And we have a one skills. You just have to have this.

Yeah, it's this. Tyler, they're called the skills that pay the bills. All right. I'm just saying. Send me that link, too, because I know we're going to watch this show. It's in our podcast. All right. It's this, I can't wait, I'm going to watch this tonight.

This is, it's incredible. I got, in honor and Charlie. Two hours, two hours and seven minutes. Two hours and seven minutes. That's, but people, if this is the one that people were talking about years ago, people raved about this cut. They said it was like, it released, uh, 2017, it says. People said, people like highly rated it.

They were like, yeah, this actually does a huge amount of justice. Obviously, like the super fans and all the subplots, like those are all cut out. But like, you get. the gist of the entire. So if you haven't watched the entire series, you know, it might be worth it. It might be worth to watch it because you might be interesting. The fact that it was in Albuquerque does get me think, I feel like as diverse as America is in terms of cultures and landscapes, it is a little underutilized. Yeah.

Like, I think it'd be cool if we had shows set in Phoenix, shows set in, you get a lot of shows sort of set in the South, but they don't really lean into the Southern thing other than a handful. True Detective did it a bit with those seasons in the bayou. Fargo got a bit of it. They have those seasons up in the northern Midwest. But America's got a pretty strong range. No, Fargo is definitely an example of that. It seems like 40% of TV shows take place in New York City. There's a show that took place in the Florida Keys that was good.

What was that called? It has What's His Face from Friday Night Lights? I don't know any of these things. But I will say apparently the fifth best show of this millennium. is one I have never heard of. Bloodline. To me, like,

it matters a whole lot. I, I'm kind of piggyback in what you were saying. Blake, I always find it boring whenever a show is set in like a generic place.

Like, it's always like Chicago. Yeah. Like, whatever. It's like a bear's hat or like, whatever,

like Boston. It's like super generic. It's like an overly nice house in the suburbs of like pretty generic city. Like always like pisses me off. I love it when it's like,

wow that house kind of looks like a real house and it's like in a city that's like not that's a real American wait can I so can we guys can we just read the top 10 because I'm looking at the top 10 and there's numbers there's there's shows in here that I've never even heard of well yeah so the top 10 overall was breaking bad was number one number two is the wire that's the HBO show Baltimore gangs crime that always used to be everyone's number one until breaking bad came along and by everyone I mean all the nerds who are TV critics never watched the wire number three Three Mad Men. That's the ad show, advertising show, 60s

timepiece. Succession, that's basically the Fox News show. That's great. I have not seen Succession. I've heard many of my friends watched it and said it was amazing. Number five is Fleabag.

I have never heard of that show in my life. I have no idea what that is. No idea what that is. It's British, something. I saw someone else's list that had Fleabag like number two. It must have been a response to this. Yeah.

It must be a really good show. It's apparently a comedy drama British series. Oh, out. I will never support British television. Yeah, absolutely. And then number six. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

You don't like Monty Python? I mean, Monty Python's like so old and it's like it's kind of made itself in a pop culture that it's just... I talk about modern British television. Yeah, like modern British television. Like I just can't support it. I'll do it. I'll throw a thought crime on you. I liked the UK office better than the American office.

So you know what's really interesting? And again, you have to give the UK office credit because of this. It was the original. But did you know that, and you probably know this, Jack, but does everyone else know that every first episode of every office spinoff in every country is the exact same script as the original UK's first episode of the office? Wow. So if you, it's a really fun.

It's line by line. same. Yeah. Exactly line by line the same. And every language, every country. So it's really a fun activity. Sometimes just watch the UK first episode and then watch the American first episode side by side. It's really funny.

Yeah. I was so into the UK version. So in the, this list sucks, by the way. I'm looking at other stuff. Yeah. But I think other fun ones on the list, freaking Game of Thrones at number six. It'd be really funny thing. No, that should be up.

No, Thrones, but only the first four seasons. That should be up. That should be number two. Game of Thrones should be number two. Number two, even with season seven and eight. Objectively awful. Even with season eight, Mikey? Season eight was fine.

Season eight was fine. Charlie actually really liked the ending of season eight. Charlie watched Game of Thrones. The ending was good. Yeah, Charlie watched all the Game of Thrones. Charlie was such a big Game of Thrones fan that in his, he would watch it with his family, in his house. Each of their doors had like a little cutout image of who they were from the show.

Charlie was John Snow. But I remember talking to Charlie about the finale and I was like, this is this, it was horrible. He's like, no, she did what was necessary to take power. And I was like, wait, wait, he was. That's a take. That's a take. That's an interesting take. Yes, he did.

I'll never, I'll never, I'll never, I was like she did what was necessary. What's funny about this is, I feel like that shows how bad Game of Thrones. fell out of the cultural zeit guys because the finale was bad. Because I worked here for three years and I don't think Charlie ever brought up Game of Thrones. I remember. We were with our full staff. We were actually doing directors training. It was our first ever real director training for Turning Point USA.

And we had rented a house in San Diego. And that happened to be the same weekend that the final, whatever the day was, I think it was a weekend because it must have been, maybe it was during the week, middle of the week, that the final, the finale for, Game of Thrones was on. So we everybody got together in the family room watched it and it was unanimously like anger like animosity like that everybody just like all right I'm going to bed. Everyone like just went to sleep like immediately afterwards like nobody was upset angry. I've never seen anything like it that was like so unanimously hated. So that's crazy.

I didn't know that Charlie liked it. That's crazy. So I can explain that by the way as I'll just mention again, Folks who don't know, like I got my whole start on the internet, like doing Game of Thrones Blog, and I called the Angry GOT fan and ran that thing. We had like hundreds of thousands of viewers, you know, the clicks back. This was Blogosphere Days, like, kind of like Gamergate, nerdgate kind of timeframe. And so I was just like railing against the HBO show, but from the perspective of a guy who loved the books.

And the reason that people hated the TV show ending so much is because they kind of, you used like a book style ending on a show that had stopped following the books for years. So it was a complete mismatch. But if you had read the books, you would know that DeNaris was obviously always evil. She was always like, it was the backstory of the evil dragon queen, like how you become an evil dragon queen. She was always just like this crazy toxic feminist, femme boss. I can do whatever I want because I'm a girl. And I can just kill people with impunity, which she's. does with like the when she goes to to the giskari and the slave traders and like just just starts murdering people for no reason who haven't even crossed her by the way um by the way she kills her

brother like people people seem to forget that about denaries he had it coming he had it coming uh well she kind of killed him again like she set up she she set it up that he would be murdered so that she would then become the targaryan heir but like everybody just like misses all this she manipulates the situation. And, and, like, she's clearly evil from the very start. And this is what I always argued from the beginning. And P.N. like, Denarius fans, you'd be like, no, that's not true. She's a good boss.

You know, all these, like, like, stupid, you know, filthy show-only casuals were naming their daughters, like, Calisi and stuff. Kelly C. Kelly C. Kelly C is a totally acceptable name for a girl. Yeah. But then like, but then she turns out, like, Kelly C. They do the full reveal of her as evil, and then she gets murked by John Snow. Oh, yeah. No.

I mean, I'm sorry. It's very funny that Charlie took that point of view. I don't know. What's funny is, I thought it was pretty bad, but not for the reason everyone else did. Like, what was clearly terrible was kind of everything leading up to the final episode. But I do feel like her going on, you know, a massive bender and destroying King's Landing was one of the few upsides to it. Spoilers for a show that ended seven years ago. The Battle of Winterfell was epic.

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faking the hate crime against himself oh that's what that I was like I have no idea what that is number 10 apparently it was they think it was really good unbelievable like it is I don't I don't know what fleabag is I can see everyone making an argument for a lot of these and of course 30 30 rocket number eight is really

interesting I've always really enjoyed that show but people people suck up on 30 rock because of like it's all the libs like just like this is like they this is like they're you know i will say every time i've watched no no you know you're exactly right that's so that show is so liberal the 30 rock is like the lib like fan girl show that's like that's big time big time this is like a very millennial this list is like millennial emails no 30 rock was the pre parks and rec i think they on at the same time. No, but 30 Rock is like, again, it's the whole...

The 30 Rock started before. Yeah. Tina Faye is funny. I think Tina Faye is funny. There's a whole like lib suck up culture around Tina Faye and it's like... Big time. If Tina Faye likes you, then you're okay by like Lib standards and like NBC.

That's right. They have arrested development at 12. That is what I would have put us the number one comedy. I would have put arrested development. The rest of development was like bar nut before they screwed it up by bringing it back was was looked at as top three. That's why you always got to end early rather than lay it. I think it would be a top five.

I am overall kind of a TV hater. There are very few shows I've watched more than one season's worth of. And so I think it stands out that the three seasons of Rested Development is one of the only ones I've actually watched every episode in a show. And then they released new episodes and those were terrible. So it became a show I haven't seen every episode of up. The Inside Jokes with your friends. The Rested Development to me was the last show on TV. Maybe because I think that was after the office.

Yeah, it was after the office. Arrested development, that was before. No. Arrested development was 2003 to like 2006. But it got popular later. Yeah, because it was on Netflix. Yeah, it got popular. Okay, whatever.

That's why they brought it back and that was terrible. To me, Arrested Development, you could say the Office too, was one of those, but the arrest of development was a last show that I can remember that was a TV show that had like inside jokes that people still shared before like between friends that watch this stuff since then i don't even know if i can like really tell you a show like a comedy on tv that like people quote regularly and they people just know like quotes like inside funny jokes from that like like you would with movies and i said this all the time we talked about this with my wife like kids like when i was in high school and jack will agree with this when we were

in high school we used the non-stop quote movies like non-stop that's like that was how you talked with people was like basically just like conversing with lines from movies kids today don't even they can't even quote one line from any movie they've seen in the last five years I that said I have asked about this and they will do the same thing

with the same movies that we watched so apparently well if you're 13 it is still the funniest thing in the world to quote Monty Python and the Holy Grail to each other but but like for our generation was like you could quote Zoolander. You could quote old school. You could quote anchor man. You could quote like there was like Adam Sandler will every Adam Sandler movie. Yeah. They don't have like I'm telling you kids teenage boys today can't even tell you a funny moment from a movie less much less they don't go around quoting lines and it actually to me like I think about all the time like how does this impact American culture because American culture was a lot

different when people are rolling around quoting. So I mean there's there's different like the the me people do still have they do still have quotes like they have six seven they have skibbity like memes are so but those are like words but those are like those are like ticot trends but go up on this that like shared meme culture does kind of exist but it's outside of movies now because that sort of writing has left movies and movies aren't a shared culture anymore but what is shared is memes so you'll see this on ticot you'll see this on reels you'll see this in just, you know, like regular music people share and the way people talk, but you don't actually see it in movies anymore because the writing has gotten number one so bad. And the number two,

and like Ben Affleck and Matt Damon talked about this, that when they make movies now for streaming services that Netflix straight up told them that we know that the audience doesn't watch the movie as they're actually like having it on because they're just sitting on their phones the whole time. So we just make sure that like every 20 minutes or so someone explains the plot. yet again to people and then we just throw an action scene in so people keep watching and so the idea that like you're going to have a well-written show isn't going to be you know isn't going to be something that's marketable anymore so funny enough tanya and i just went back and watched because i i've said before that uh so tanya didn't grow up in the u.s so she doesn't have that same

background like we did like you mentioned the 90s 2000s where you know we had that shared culture of like will feral movies that before she met me tanya had never seen a will feral movie she was like i showed her anchorman she's like wow this guy's really funny i was like yeah i know he's kind of a big deal um and so we're going through some of the adam sandler movies right now and she'd never seen him before so we watched um 50 first dates and the wedding singer and specifically with the wedding singer i forgot how well absolutely well written that movie was just so many quotable lines over and over so many quotable scenes you know you you you ran over two cones this could have been people this could have been guests at her wedding they were cones like over and over and over just these quotable moments

that again like you don't find them in movies today plus tie and tile i love to get your your thought on this that i don't think people rewatch movies as much anymore either in in the era of streaming only i think people like watch a movie and then they dispose of it i don't think there's movies where people watch multiple times anymore. And that was a huge part of the culture. It was like you watch a movie, then you watch again with your friends, then you're all at a party, put a movie on. I'm kind of okay with that change.

I'm kind of okay with that change. I have a theory on that. I have a theory that clipping has actually ruined movies. That has. That is true. Have you seen the way to shoot the movies now? Clipping has ruined movies because now. Yeah, they shoot the movies with everything like centered so that you can clip it just

like that. So they, so yeah. Everything's like down the center. So everything is directed towards clipping, which, again, proves your point of what you're saying is like TikTok has kind of killed trends and themes and all that stuff. But movies now, think about it. Think about how many movies don't get watched because the best parts are already clipped and they're on like TikTok, reels, whatever. So it's actually killing the movie. If the movie industry was very smart, they would get, they would like really be hardcore about this and like trying to eliminate it.

but they're not because they don't want to look like jerks probably. But it's probably killed things. And then after the fact, instead of going, think about if you wanted to go back and catch a line again, you had to go watch the movie again, memorize it to a tee, go in the parking lot, reiterate it with your friends 50 times. Yes. I remember so many times, and I don't know if you did this, Jack, but like we would go watch a movie, like you said, be like, that was awesome.

And we like, we have to go watch the movie again. we would go back and watch the movie again. I remember doing this with like Zoolander or something. I can't remember what it was. Go watch the movie again. And then we sat in the parking lot afterwards. Like rehearsing all the lines with each other. Like remember this part.

Remember this part. And then it's like you and your friends then bonded. And like we said it and you go to school and you say the line. Can I get in a class to a teacher and everyone laughs. Right. Like but again, that's not happening. So that interpersonal communication part piece, this is the thing is like okay it's getting replaced but now you're getting fed it from a third

party source on the internet instead of repeating it with your friends or like like punking a teacher with it or doing whatever right right and it's just to me that's the reinforcement element is now happening from a device to your brain over and over and that's the only place that you're actually sharing that funny enough i i'm very sad when that movie uh when that movie stepbrothers came out the will for all movie i watched it by myself and And I didn't like it at all the first time I watched it. And I was like, I don't get this movie. I don't think it's funny.

I don't like it even a little bit. And then I was, and I'll never forget this. I watched it in a setting where I had like four or five my buddies around. And I was like, this is the best movie ever because we were doing all that. It's very true. So because you're like Barking. It's like mystery science theater kind of in those situations. I mean that I would add guys that the only movies that perform like 20,

has been a comeback year for cinema, and there's been a ton of movies that have performed. But they have to be, like, unrealistic, fantasy, sci-fi, massive budget for, like, you know, marketing it. It's like Project Hail Mary, Odyssey, Spider-Man, you know, Avengers Doomsday. Like, a lot of these have broken the billion-dollar box office records,

and they will. Like, Dune 3 is coming out. That's the only movie that can be successful in theaters. I watched Goodwill Hunting last night, And I was literally sitting there just the entire movie is just about having a conversation. And I was like, there's no way this would come out in theaters today. And anybody would watch this movie. Like there's just no way.

Yeah, it's a total flattening. And it actually matches pretty close with this list starting in 2000. Because if you look at the top films in 99 or 2000, the top 10 movies of the year include stuff like the perfect storm, which is about fishermen getting into a storm and sinking. it has what lies beneath which is this sort of horror drama thriller Harrison Ford of it's Supernatural

has a rom-com on it. Michelle Fifer. Yeah I think that was the year like what women want came out something in that period and then you get into 2001, 2002 and suddenly it's Spider-Man, X-Men, Harry Potter everything is a big tent pole franchise film, lots of special effects

and that's kind of been what's run the day and as you said 2026 feels different in that we have random horror movies doing really well again and hopefully that leads to some creativity. That would be great but on the TV thing before we move on I feel like we should ask everyone

what their number one show actually is and is it even on the list? Can I add something to that just to what Mikey's saying and it backs up? In the last week I watched the new Resident Evil movie twice. I thought it was phenomenal. It's doing really

really well at the box office. It's totally different. practical effects are back. Did you watch it twice? It's super cool. In an hour because you use your accelerated speed? No. No, it took two hours. Okay.

Whoa. Wait, you watch movies on accelerated speed, Jack? Do you even watch the show, bro? Wait, wait, no, hold on. I know that you watch things on accelerated speed, but not movies. Yeah. Of course. Dude, that's crazy.

Why would I want to give my time to Hollywood like that? Why would I let Hollywood? control my life. I'm going to waste my time. I want to be honest. Watching that much Hollywood. I'm so ADHD. I'm typically working while I watch every movie.

I don't know if you can watch a horror movie at accelerated speed. The point of a horror movie is there's tension to it. Let me finish. And then you're watching it at accelerated speed. It's like da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. I would, I have to watch things as slowly as possible. Stop it and miss scenes. And I go back and re-watch it.

I probably watch a movie four times. So you have to actually be high IQ to be able to do this. So that's why you guys are able to. I'm perfectly fine saying that I'm low IQ. I just, I've never seen. I can't even imagine. I'd have to watch a movie like 15 times if I was watching on T.O.C. I'm sad, by the way, I want to say I want to shout out one of our regulars who's not here today.

Dylan, I'm sad you're not here because we're talking about TV and you could be touting all of your favorite anime's, which I believe none of which are on the list. But that's okay. And I'll even add to that that since I've been, I've got my whole family on it now. So even when I'm with Tanya, who again, as I mentioned before, she is English at, she's in ESL. Like, English is not her first language. Even when I'm with her, we watch movies at 1.75. And when I'm with my kids, it's 2X. Everything's at 2X.

And they ask for it. So bizarre. So what would your number one show be, Tyler? And is it on this list? Yeah. I'm going to be real with you. I'm I and this is you can call me lame whatever people make fun of it all the time whatever I'm an office fan I just I just the American office number one American office I could watch so good I can I can for me I if there's like a comfort food in TV like it's the office like I could turn on the office in the background and it just like kind of like equalizes like makes you happy type of a thing like that's like I would say that's if I want if I'm going to fight with my like with my like with my house, like put on the office in the background and like everything's better.

One of my favorite facts, and then I'll throw to Jack for his favorite, one of my favorite facts about the office when it was on Netflix still. It was the most popular show on Netflix. Netflix, of course, was the biggest consumer of internet bandwidth in the U.S. because of all the streaming video. And so there was a given year where Netflix was about, I want to say, 15% of all internet traffic. And then on top of that, something like about, about, 20% of all Netflix show watches were people putting on an episode of the office. That's how big it was. Yep. So it was basically, if you ran the numbers, about 2% of all internet traffic in the United States was people specifically watching episodes of the office. That's crazy. And good for these people too, because like some of those guys are making so much money still annually.

Yeah. From all the streaming, like all of those actors, like that they probably didn't. At the time, I mean, they'll even tell you you you listen to them on the podcast and stuff like that they tell you like how they thought they were going to get fired like after they were going to get they were done after just a few episodes like it's pretty it's a pretty cool thing that they have made an entire career off of that okay um k brem by the way asked if charlie's favorite show would be sainfield it would be on this list because it's not from this century yes but that was his overall favorite i don't know what his favorite would be from this century he like breaking bad i'm talking about breaking about all the time yeah all right all right yeah your favorite show from this century yeah yeah well I was just going to say funny enough about Seinfeld similar to what you were saying about Sopranos did you know Seinfeld actually started in the 1980s if you actually look I think season

one was 1989 it was only like it was only five episodes or something right wow yeah yeah I didn't know it was like a five it was like a mini pilot kind of like mini series and you know the lore is that Steve Bannon was actually like involved with the financing of it and still

has a piece of it to this day he was and oh 100% and uh you know it's and it's the first five episodes are really not that good um but yeah it basically set up what became the Seinfeld empire um so so charles so while we're on the topic before you yeah charlie always talked about ozark too in a weird way huh which is really this is number 68 yeah i forgot about that but he did watch ozart he clearly he watched ozark and he talked about ozark all the time i i i wasn't like that because of a fan of Ozark. I thought the first couple seasons were pretty good, but anyways. By the end of the year, more than 60,000 babies will have been saved by pre-born centers.

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they should know. So one of my favorites, House of Cards, obviously. Like those first couple of seasons, too. Like, we repetitively nonstop talked about House of Cards of Charlie when those I hated that show. It was dumb. I thought it was pretty spot on and how people interacted in the D.C. No, that's the thing about it.

It's like, it's fake. House of Cards screws it up because it's based on a British show. And in Britain, it actually makes sense. for this mid-powered backbench to the House whip to maneuver and destroy the people ahead of him in the party, become prime minister. It makes no sense at all in America for the House whip to like connive to bring down the vice president and then he makes himself vice president. Then he takes out the president. That makes no sense. Everything in that show is so stupid.

That doesn't make sense. And then the first lady takes him out. How that happens doesn't make sense. But how the people interact with one another is like so spot on. like all these these people that think that they're so special that work at the capital and everything else how they act and react is like it's pretty it's pretty funny i don't know anyway sorry if you watch that if you watch i'm intentionally trying to cut off jack every time he's about to say it's the serial there's an episode in uh in a fun fun fact about house cards

uh as well as vip that if you watch an episode i think it's season three um of House of Cards where he's the president and he's sending the troops off to like some valley, like some valley on a peacekeeping mission. And he's sending these UN troops. If you go and look at the front row of those troops that are standing directly behind Kevin Spacey, like the very first guy in the Navy uniform is actually me. No way. You're in.

No way. Uncredited. I was. Wait, what? They filmed it. They filmed it when I was stationed at Navy Intelligence. and they reached out to a bunch of guys in the military saying, hey,

we want to find people for, you know, who can like take off, take leave and, you know, just film in his background. And I was like, I was like,

yeah, that sounds cool. So a bunch of us took leave. We went and filmed with that one day. So yeah, got to get to work with the whole team on the show. And Robert Wright, she was super cool.

It was cool. And I did an episode of VEP as well when he goes to, when he go to that, like, fake Google company. My show, which I will say I'll just I just easy

shut off the show that I'll add that I'm actually like I like Breaking Bad I love the Wire Game of Thrones we talked about that Mad Men I think is great as well

the show that I'm glad to see the Americans is pretty high up on the list I think that's awesome Chernobyl is pretty high up which I think is awesome and I will say that I'm

really, I was really excited and I'm really pleased to see that one of the highest shows is one that I absolutely love that hardly anybody talks about and it doesn't get as much credit. But the fact that it's number 37 on this list is Battlestar Galactica. Wow. Which I argue is like, it's, I think it's that specific show, the 2004 Battlestar Galactica is the best made sci-fi show of all time. and it's a show that like even if you don't like sci-fi you can sit down and watch it and be like this is a great show i mean it's got incredible cast it's got mary mcdonnell it's got um ever james almost plays uh admiral adama katie sackoff it's just again an incredible cast great writing

it's a really good show and uh prescient because it talks about ai when we're living in a time where that's like you know one of the biggest topics that we're talking about all righty all right Mikey, what is your favorite show of this millennium? Objectively, the greatest show of this, you know, 21st century is the summer I turned pretty. It just is. What? What is that show? Okay.

I only know about the show because Daisy would talk about it. Did Daisy put you up to saying that? No, bro. This is the greatest show of our lifetime. Okay. It's fantastic. It has nothing to do with love. That's just kind of like that gets in the way of the story. It has to do with this house. And they grow up in this house. And there's all these traditions around the house. And it's about like, you know, keeping the family together. It's about the nuclear family. It's about true love. It's about, it's like the most conservative valued show out there. It really is the greatest show of all time. Okay. All right. That's a pretty strong sell. Blake, what's your...

All right. Let me... We should guess Blake's favorite show. Is it on this list? No. It's not on this list. And I don't watch that much... What's your favorite show on this list?

My favorite show on this list would probably be a rest of development. On the list would be the rest of development, I think. And then other than that, like I said, I watched very few shows. I did watch all of Game of Thrones. The last couple seasons are really bad. But I was a book super fan. I was kind of in no matter what it was going to be. And, you know, it does a lot of good stuff.

And I love Arrested Development, but then they kept making seasons for it. And that was a mistake. I watched a few episodes of Breaking Bad, whatever. A lot of these I watched a couple episodes. Were you attracted to Portia Dara? So I don't even know who that is. And Interested Development? I don't remember anyone's names other than, like, the core people.

I don't know any of the actors' names. And that is because, that is because we're going to go deep into the recesses of my mind. and I see Dylan has actually joined. He's going to probably semi like this. I think my favorite show of the 21st century is going to be Nickelodeon 2005 Avatar The Last Airbender. Yeah.

All right. Oh, yeah. Heck yeah. I'm taking mine back. I agree with Blake. It was so good. It was so good. We got three or four different terrible attempts

to continue it. Nerds. Because Legend of Cora was bad. Live action version. bad live action movie bad they're making some new cartoon version that's going to be bad too but that one that was lightning in a bottle everyone thought it was going to be terrible and it came out and it was awesome okay and 14 year old me was here for it there's there's some uh there's some uh there's some uh you know things to mention here three shows that are on here back to back 56 nathan for you that's a great

show i cannot watch nathan for you it's too awkward it was too painful i love watching Really awkward stuff in television causes me physical distress. I can't believe that's 56 on this list, to be honest with you. It's a little crazy that's like that high. But another one, it's 57. I think you should leave. Like, I actually, I laugh every day at clips. That's a show.

That's a good example of a show that gets clipped up that basically is just a clipped up show. That is a hilarious show. And then Chappelle's show. Chappelle's show was probably one of the most transformative. informative shows, I think, for... That was a very important one, yeah. For, like, people my age and Jack's age, like, where people, like, actually, like, quoted, talked about it all the time.

Like, that legitimately, like, deserves... That deserves a higher ranking, in my opinion, without how influenced American people. Well, I thought... I thought, like, if we were... No, it's not. It's all over. They even have a reality. Survivors on here.

I think you should leave is, like, a ridiculous show. It's, like, is a show about nothing. Have you watched it? It's a... Tim Robinson. We don't like Tim Robinson because he's a lib. But he's not funny. I think Tim Robinson's hilarious.

I think the most interesting thing on here is like where they put the like the reality TV shows or like long running shows that don't really fit in. I don't know. Modern family is really low on this. It's kind of shocking because that was a pretty well like show. Well, some stuff that's not on here at all. Silicon Valley's not on here. And I thought that was great. I like Silicon Valley.

I love Silicon Valley. Well, the one season of it I watched. Silicon Valley is is really well written man I feel like we'd talk about this all day really quick though caboose the masses demand what is your favorite television show so my favorite currently I would say is a night of the seven kingdoms even though we only got one season right now my favorite show that's on the list is number 73 it's Barry if anyone hasn't seen that they should definitely check that out it's a dark comedy with Bill Hater oh yeah oh I heard that my friends liked that show I remember Also, Generation Kill is an incredible show.

That's the HBO Iraq movie or show? Yeah. So it's based on the book by Evan Wright when we first went into Iraq. He traveled with a group of recon Marines when we first entered Iraq. Read the book. The book's incredible. The show Just As Incredible. And also The Terminalist is a good one.

Excellent. One of the shows I've heard about Beef. Have you watched Beef? They've got a second season that's out? dude i i have heard but i heard it swears this is like the best show i've heard i i haven't watched it yet but i've like i've had multiple people be like you've got to watch beef you have to watch beef it's all about it like i guess an interaction of someone like getting into like road rage or something and it's like a continuation of like yeah an entire season of people like

getting into like a fight i don't know it's crazy i'm i'm deeply interested if we are uh two things uh If we're doing comedies, you've got to add tires with Shane Gillis. I mean, that's just absolutely hilarious show. It's not even on here. That's shocking. Yes, not even on there. It's so good. And also, Caboos, if you like 907 Kingdoms that much,

highly recommend the other short stories slash novellas by George R. Martin in that series, The Sworn Sword and the Mystery Night. We're getting TV versions of them soon, so. Well, the first, yeah, and the first one was almost one-to-one. And so the guys who are adapting the Dunkin Egg series are not the ones who made the Game of Thrones proper show. Apparently, we're also getting a Game of Thrones prequel movie, I think, with Robert Pattinson playing Agon, the Conqueror, which is like way back in the like 300 years ago of West Roecey history. And, and, Night of the Seven Kingdoms is just great because it kind of like, it pulls you out of the, you know, Civil War political aspect. There is

there, you know, there is a good amount of politics. But it's just sort of like a knight and his squire sort of going about the land and, you know, getting into hijinks. Yeah, yeah. It's really, really cool. All right. I have some issues with this list because it looks like they like intentionally left out like a bunch of shows. Well, you're looking at a bunch of shows from the 90s.

No, no, no. No, no. MTV Jackass was like a really culturally influential show. That was after 2000. Was it? Yeah. Are you sure? Oh, it did. It released October 2000.

Wow. Jersey Shore. Okay. We are not putting Jersey Shore on this list. I don't care if it's influential. I don't care if it's influential. Okay. Yeah.

So is like the Black Death. The Black Death is influential. There's a few others. It seems like all the MTV shows were left off. Like getting kidney stones is. influential on your life. You wouldn't rank that as a top thing. No, Jack, was punked like really an influential show? More than some of these, like, crappy shows that were on here. No, punked, punk, there was, like, a 18 month to 24 month period where punked was like everything.

Robin Big. Robin Big was like a big deal, like, without all, all that. I'm just, I'm just saying there's some shows here. It looks like, it looks like intentionally, like a lot of MTV shows were left off this list. Rob and Big or Rob Deerex Fantasy Factory was like a big deal for that was like the biggest show for like two years too. Like like the like and and I'm and again I'm not saying I'm not a Jersey short guy. I'm not from Jersey but that was legitimately one of the top rated shows on television. Man and the Kardashians is on here.

Oh no. You're shilling for the Kardashians. I'm not saying. You want Kardashians. I'm just saying. I'm just saying that these are like so these were. some of the most watches. No, the O.C. Laguna Beach.

What about the Hill? I've never heard of having to have you watched. The Hill. There's a difference though between what was like culturally relevant and had the highest ratings and what was objectively a good quality show. Okay. I think we should give the distinction there. Yeah, but if it wasn't good, then why did they get such high rating?

Because we're a fallen society. Because we are sinners. But if we are sinners and God will, extract his judgment from many of us. Again, I'm going through some of these... That's actually the same answer for the Cornell story. Yeah. Teen mom. Yeah, actually, should we get into that?

We've really extracted a lot. This is a very fun discussion. We probably should. But I think we should dive into the Cornell thing because it is mega viral and we have to follow it. We have to chase the clicks. We have to chase the hits. So we talked about this on the show today as well. Have you been following this, Tyler? The Cornell drama? I've caught it.

I caught wind of it. And I was like, kind of reading it. I was like, this is unbelievable. It is very unbelievable. It's very disgusting. Mikey, have you been following this? Yeah, I have. Oh, unfortunate. Unfortunate. I only really started to pay real attention to it yesterday, but it's absolutely everywhere.

I was pointing out, if you go to the New York Times page, the lead is not AI, it's not Iran, it's not anything else. The lead on the New York Times today was developments in the Cornell saga. This, of course, is a lawsuit that has been filed, a girl who was at Cornell. she took ketamine, she drank a bunch of alcohol, she went to a frat party, she apparently engaged in carnal activities with up to seven different guys. Afterwards, it seems she realized

that this was a very humiliating thing to do, and because in our modern society, we don't have a way of verbalizing why you'd be able to do something like that and feel terrible about it and regret it without converting it into, I must not have consented to it, Because if you consent to anything, it's good.

So now we circle around back. She's suing everybody. And we have the AG of New York coming in and opening a criminal investigation. Jack, it's like they're trying to revive, you remember 2014, 2015, the campus assault hysteria frenzy. It's like they're trying to do a refect of that. Dude, Matt, Mattress Girl, the UVA story. I mean, these were, these are, people have to remember, too, that these were stories. that particularly started, coincided with like Gamergate, the nerd gate stuff I was talking about with Game of Thrones and then the rise of Trump.

That these were these super just hyper politicized, but like in a cultural Marxist kind of sense, stories that took over our media. We were being told that all men are bad. every male is a potential rapist, that campuses and fraternities were these hotbeds of this activity, and it all fell apart. And funny enough, you know, the original one of these, like the err, you know, campus rape story, of course, you know, fake rape hoax story was the Duke lacrosse team. And famously, one of the students at Duke University at the time who became very well known on media for speaking out against this was Stephen Miller. I think he was like a college Republican back then, and I know he was in students for academic

freedom with David Horowitz, of which I was also a member at the time at Temple University and also called out the Duke Respond, Duke La Crosse case at the time, that it seems like another one of those. So, you know, as we dig into this Cornell thing, Blake, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this something that she filed a lawsuit first and then like the lawsuit didn't go anywhere and she just but she didn't actually claim that it was non-consensual two years ago

and now she's claiming it was non-consensual like she's oh I've thought more about like do I have that correct that's an angle to this well yeah no so I think the lawsuit is new but she originally filed a criminal complaint with police okay that's the narrative of everyone's digested that The New York Times reported on this today that she goes to the party, does all that stuff, a multiple threesomes. And then afterwards, it seemed, they actually, the New York Times, they seem very aware of what's really going on.

They charted it out that originally she describes it to her friends, like it's this extreme thing she's done. Like, she's so adventurous. And instead, people react, they kind of find it disgusting. They find it upsetting. And then she realizes, oh, this is bad. and then she was actually interested in one of the guys, like, more seriously. And so she was sending him friendly stuff, like, oh, you know, it was kind of, that was kind of wild, but, you know, nothing illegal happened. And she's literally the twist that the New York Times highlights today is she was looking forward to a Halloween party at this fraternity after this all happened.

And then the fraternity realized this is getting a lot of heat. People are all talking about this. They un-invite her from this party. And then as the New York Times puts it, by about November 3rd, she had concluded that what had happened to her in October was an assault. She goes to police. And then it seems, I think what happened is her friends were giving her a lot of shocked reactions. So she dialed back. She tried to kind of hide accountability, hide responsibility for this by downplaying her level of consent.

Her friends understandably go, wait, what? Then you got raped. You got assaulted. You need to go to the police. she goes to the police and then I think the police they start asking her the questions you need to ask well did you voluntarily drink alcohol

did you deliberately take drugs did you consent did you ever refuse consent when someone tried to do something and did they ever not listen and so on she wasn't going to lie to the police so they look at this and they go well this is kind of gross but it's not a crime and now we have this entire dramatic aftermath

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situation right yes you shouldn't be you know young men shouldn't be putting themselves in these these situations and you know because there's there's scenarios that's part of the conversation right which is there's scenarios where like young women get into this embarrassment situation which this may totally fit that that same bill right but it's like it's completely unfair to the young man and they drag them through and then we find out later like this is this is this is is a hoax or you know it was obvious it was a consensual relationship whatever right because that's at the end of the day that's that's that's what's most meaningful is that you know was their consent was there you know doing all of that but in the framework of like a semi-normal relationship and again where it's like

this is clearly not that right this is clearly a situation where society is so broken right you have a abnormal relationship, which I'll tell you, I think is the epitome of, again, society really. I mean, they're men, young men, the numbers that they were just released this year are getting worse and worse on young men and young women wanting to be in relationship, particularly young women. It's interesting to me that this blew up when we've seen polls that say, yeah, what, 66% of women say their problems are caused by men? So problems are caused by men.

And again, this situation reinforces it. 100%. Right? Like, because this is like, this is one of the situations where clearly, you know, this could be a, out, the outcome could be is that, okay, this was all, you know, consensual or consented or whatever. I don't know. We don't know. Like, we don't, we don't know what the situation is, right? You know, God forbid, heaven forbid that it's a situation where it's not.

But regardless, the situation is that now you have, these things are polarizing to the fact to the fact that, you know, to the fact that. men and women, young men and young women, get even more freaked out, right? And it's because they're putting themselves in environments that are not normal or healthy or, you know, that are going to take them to closer to marriage or like a relationship. Any young man that engages in this, even if this wasn't reported, because 99% of these things don't turn into this, right? 99% of these things turn into videos getting passed around, right, and ruining people's lives on both sides because it's not just the young woman who's embarrassed.

It's also a young man later on that's embarrassed because there's a video of him engaging in something that's like it's totally immoral, demoralizing everything. And they wish they hadn't done it. And then that makes it harder to date. It makes it harder to get closer to a marriage or it makes it harder to forgive yourself for the type of person you become. And that's really what takes you down roads that are really negative and national. So, you know, I, the thing that bothers me, and sorry, I'll just finish on this is, like, the thing that bothers me about this situation is that I think people get off on the wrong stop on this thing, which is like, the first stop is the anger, animosity, I'm with her, the type, like, you know, stand with the young woman who was clearly taken advantage of or whatever, right?

And that may be the outcome of this, right? And that's a piece of this. But the bigger picture element of this that's completely ignored, that never gets discussed, and the. The media for sure never discusses is like, these are all things that, that society should be fixing, like trying to fix. Yeah,

practically. And we're, and we're right. Like, in fact, people are saying like, oh, like there's a,

there's a whole element of this of people responding to this, be like, well, it would have been okay if she should. Yeah, no. And the answer is, like,

this is okay on Holy Fan. Yeah. It just wouldn't be. I think I want to flag this. We got a donation message. And it's like, no, none of this,

none of this is, okay and none of this behavior is okay in any kind of context. Yeah, I think Zuzu's pedals, she donated, thank you, Zuzu, and she asked, are you even allowed to say what appendage, this girl snorted ketamine on? I think the question kind of answers itself, what that was. And then

also, did this happen because all these people mistook porn for reality? I think that's part of it. Everyone's, like, very detached from actual normal relationships. Everything is mediated through fake things, which is TV, all those TV shows, notably, I think we didn't

talk about. Television got a lot more graphic and kind of porny in the last 25 years compared to anything that came before due to HBO subscription prestige channels. They would all have a lot of sex and nudity in them. And then actual just pornography is everywhere now. And I think this is frying people's brains. It's making them think, oh, this could be a fun thing to try. And they're all getting one shot by this because actually this stuff is depraved. It messes you up for life. Mikey, we have haven't heard from you. Just what do you make of this? You're also younger. You've seen you're someone who's

actually married has a normal family life. We thankfully have a lot of people like that in the turning point world. But I feel what's happening to a lot of people is they've been fed this line of basically feminism. Like anything is good as long as you consent to it. And there's no dangers to this. And people are getting absolutely cooked when they see the, when they encounter the actual consequences of this. Yeah, I mean, you know, hookup culture and like having sex just normally kind of draws this line in the sand where rape is bad. Like you don't cross that line. But then secular culture, when it views this like sexual culture as, you know, it becomes more sexy the closer you get to the line. But with like Christian moral behavior, like Christians never

define human behavior as how close can you get to the line. line. We have like the guardrails of where sex should be. It should be in the confines of marriage. It should be loving your partner, respecting them. But in this case, it's everything that's the opposite of that. It's how close can you get to the line. I mean, the girl in this case, you know, it's cited that she snorted ketamine off of one of the guys' genitalia. And involved in this case is there's marijuana, ketamine, alcohol, multiple sexual partners. It's everything that's like how close can I get to the line without actually crossing the line. And in a Christian society, none of that is acceptable.

We would never be in a situation like this because we ask ourselves the wrong question. You know, oftentimes in situations like this, the question is, was there consent? And like that is an important question. It's a moral one. It's a legal question. But the Christian question, it's, you know, was there love? is there self-control? Am I treating my partner, you know, with respect? And that's why it's important in the confines of marriage. And like there's the legal side of this where, you know, there's going to be

evidence and hearings and a jury. But none of this would have happened if these young people were living in a moral and Christian society that asked itself not the wrong questions, but the right questions and didn't put themselves in really dirty positions to begin with. It's just, it's a difficult case. It's also a disgusting case, and I'm sad that we're even having this conversation as a culture. To me, this is all, it's a great exhibit for Chesterton's fence. That's the idea that before you tear down a tradition, a norm, you have to ask why it was that created. And we had this norm built up. It took centuries, millennia, to build up that norm of Christian approach to relationships, dating, marriage, sexuality.

and then in a matter of basically a couple decades, people said, oh, that must have just been done to control people. And there's no reason to do any of that stuff. Get rid of all of it. And now we're just seeing this absolute cascade of psychological destruction. And it kind of makes me angry that a lot of people, they're going to throw the school, the police, the prosecutors. These boys who made bad decisions, I think, it's like pretty gross what they did.

But they're going to try to pulverize them a lot more. I don't think they're criminals basically. And it's like they're basically going to turn them into scapegoats for a giant society-wide lie that they feel the need to perpetuate. I want to play this clip because it does intrigue me. This is Camille, is it Paglia? Palia, I can never remember if you pronounce the G in that one. I think it's Paglia. Paglia?

Like archfeminist, left-wing feminist theorist, but she had a pretty interesting response to this that I kind of want to play. Let's do clip nine. You don't think there's a problem, a sexual assault? Because a lot of women are coming forward now. No. In cases of real rape, of course should be prosecuted. Of course, real rape is a crime. But this is not real rape. We've been arguing about dating encounters with miscommunications now for decades.

It's absolutely infantilizing to women. It must stop. But you know that a lot of women are afraid of sexual assault or have been sexually assaulted. Should they not be able to go and drink and play? play beer pong and get drunk like the guys do. They live in fear. If you go to a fraternity house party with a chaos going on in the living room area and a young man says to you, would you like to go up to my room? I'm sorry, okay, you are consenting to sex. He is right to think you have consented, okay? To go up there and so let's change your mind and so on, right?

It's not right, of course, for anyone to impose themselves sexually on another person, naturally, But women must realize they are now free. The sexual revolution has been won. Why are we coddling young women, to say, go on being children, because mommy and daddy will be there to pick up the pieces for you afterward? We're going to go on like this, making endless excuses for middle-class girls, confused, unsure of what they want. Perhaps the sexual revolution should be reversed,

because what we're showing, that perhaps co-education is a bad idea, Okay, maybe today's young women, okay, are not prepared for co-education. You think, wait, I liked that end bit. Co-education was a mistake. Bring it back. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

Female schools. Bring it all back. We've got to bring it back, guys. Can I, can I bring up my favorite all-time Camille Paglia tweet or saying since we're, since we're in here? She was talking about, she was talking about serial killers. and she said, why are there no female Jack the Rippers

because the same reason that there's no female Mozart's. Whoa. Wow. Oh, man. She's a Mozart of words, though. I will give her that. She's a really talented person.

She's absolutely phenomenal. By the way, Jack the Ripper, most likely Polish. Just saying. Oh, okay. Wait, are you bragging about that one? Or? I have this guy named Jack.

I have this theory, and I'm not really sure if it's true or not, it might be a thought crime, but I have this theory that for some reason we polls have like a higher preponderance of others of serial killers. And I've been trying to figure out why that is boredom. And also, and also it's not random that like Wisconsin is home to like the highest amount of serial killers and they're all Polish people. Are they? There was also Polish. It was also a Polish guy that shop. Yeah, Wisconsin has like one of the highest. Yeah, but I only know the one guy, the guy that they based the sign.

Amazon. That guy wasn't, that guy wasn't Polish. I'm not saying they're Polish. I'm just saying like Wisconsin's like the highest density of like American polls. Fair enough. Like Wisconsin and like the Chicago land too though. Yeah, it's the whole Chicago land area. And that and where there's a lot. The highest per capita number of serial killers is Wisconsin. Okay.

If you look at Poland in in the communist era when it was like the People's Republic of Poland, there were there was like a pretty high number of serial killers. Yeah, man. Whatever. That's like, that's more of it. Okay, the point is, guys, we need to undo. No, I know. I'm just saying, though. We need to undo.

I don't know we need to do it. But the point, I think it's just a strong point that they're going to have this, it's ridiculous, that we're going to have this gigantic freak out, this gigantic tizzy over this event at Cornell. And really, it's just screaming at us in our face that the sexual revolution was a mistake, that people actually do. deep down, they don't even want this. I think that's actually the most interesting thing about this entire gross story. If you read the details, which I don't really recommend unless you have the stomach for it, because a lot of it is very gross. But like, the entire thing is like

not even like arousing. It actually is like, it's off putting and gross. And that's what stands out to me about this, that there's actually no romance involved in this, no real desire involved it's people robotically acting out as zuzu said this like porn inflected view of reality it's cooking people's brains it's making them miserable it's creating all these casualties and that goes back to like what i was saying was that you know you're engaging in this because you're not when you're not interested in trying to seek like actual really and again i'm not blaming this situation totally on this i'm just saying in general society when you have young men and young women who have zero interest whatsoever and actually being in a relationship for years, if not decades,

or maybe ever, you engage in more of this activity, right? So what you're saying, we can take it all back to the beginning. People are cooked because they haven't formed relationships and they've spent too much time watching TV. If you're not trying to, if you're not seeking after those types of activities, like the good activities, you're going to fall, you're going to fall prey to the bad ones, right? you're going to try to reenact the things that you consume to your point, which is like a highly pornographic society.

Like we've said this many times on this show. We've talked about this. It is shocking what percentage of American young females are on OnlyFans. It is shocking the percentage of young women who engage in even just clickbait type Instagram content that they're just seeking attention and not really syncing relationships. Again, you can only do so much with the 24 hours that you have every day. And if you're spending all of your time for years, like, getting paid now. And I actually think, I totally think that it's one of the worst things that could ever happen to society is the monetization on social media. Like, it's very democratizing. And I, and like, people have lauded it because

they're like, this is great. Like, you can be a small business owner. Yeah, well, your small business ownership now in America, predominantly with young women, is getting clicks for posting bikini picks. Like, that is an absolutely terrible, a terrible situation that's happened for American, young Americans. And it's going to cause further delays in building families, which means further delays in maturation, which means that America is going to get sicker mentally, physically, like, as a society.

like it just it is like in this type of activity again if you're in the mindset's like oh well I'm basically just like a click you know person I'm not worried about getting married for a decade I might dabble in this activity that's going to be like it's going to get you know whatever 10 years from now no one's going to care I think I think well 10 years from now you should probably already have two kids in a you know a long term career and focused on like where your life's going to go and like that's just not where young Americans brains are at unfortunately as an right now. I think it's terrible. I mean, I'll just I'll just throw it out there like you know how to solve this stuff. I've been saying it for eight years now. Be a rebel start of family. Right. Just just go

into this with the basic Christian view of marriage and say this is what I'm married. I'm I'm dating for. Date to marry obviously. And you're looking for a partner for the rest of your life and start those young. Start those young because the younger you have kids, shout out to Mikey McCoy on that one, the more time you get to spend with them. It's as simple as that. Yep. Being a young dad's fun. Being a dad at all is fun. And that's like, again, it's best.

I mean, there's nothing, there's nothing more gratifying and I'm more grateful for. It's like, I think about this all the time, especially as a dad that's raising a, I have a teenager now where it's like, I'm so glad. that my teenager when he's busy doing things that are positive, right? Like he has a girlfriend right now. Like he's doing positive things that versus negative things. And if you have like if your idle, what they say about idle hands, you know, actually lead to really bad things. It's the same thing for adults.

If you're not, if you're not like looking after kids and are busying yourself with, you know, your, your kids, your activities and doing these like you can easily. slip into and fall into, you know, bad habits, bad activities and things that just aren't going to make your life better. And so that starts at the moment you turn 18 and you get out of the house and it can continue till the day that you, that you leave this earth at an old age. And we've seen stories of all of the above. You know, we have friends that have had family members that have fallen prey. Because again, how many times have we seen where the kids leave the house or something and, you know, they end up, you know, in severe alcoholism or whatever, right?

Like drug addictions at an old age and a very old age. Again, happen, idle hands. Like, you have nothing going on. And it's like all of a sudden you can slip into these things. Any person can fall prey to it. All righty. Before we wrap. I think we basically approach the end point.

I think the main takeaway here is, yeah, go out, start a family, which means watch less TV, actually, even though we just spent 45 minutes discussing it. No, no, no, no. Find someone you can watch TV with, right? Like, that's a cool part of a relationship. Find someone, you know. Jack's right. Because you TV watching.

Face take. Absolutely. But before we do, before we go, I do what I did want to throw this up, guys. It was real quick. I did get to spend a little time with our favorite vice president yesterday aboard Air Force 2. And in fact, I got him to comment on something that was a huge topic here on thought crime, a couple of weeks ago, guys, play clip 14.

Shoring jobs, importing cheap porn labor. Like, I just think you have to level with people that if you're trying to undo 40 years of bad policy, of globalization, of shipping American jobs overseas, it's going to take a little bit of time to fix that. Now, do I think we've made incredible progress? Absolutely. But I think we just have to be honest with people. Look, we're trying to fix what was broken over 40 years.

Everything was not going to be fixed in 18 months. But you can't ignore people's concerns. And so, you know, on the one hand, you have the president talking about all the great building that's happening. You have me sort of acknowledging that it's going to take a long time to rebuild the American middle class. And on the other hand, you have a few toned-de-f Republicans who say, shut up if you're pissed off about a $22 garido. Well, my response to those people is, no, listen to people who are upset with the state of the economy. If we don't listen to people, we will turn into the very thing that we hate, the very thing that we ran against, the very thing. Man, you're dropping that without Andrew around.

No, Andrew around to react to the burrito. That was a sick shot, too. The way the window, like, you're just, it's so, I think, bro. It's great. Isn't it cool? And we actually, we didn't play it in that clip, but we actually land in the interview. So, like, the plane actually lands at Andrews. So, like, we're talking, and he goes, he goes, oh, yeah, we're about to land.

So tell your camera guy to, like, brace. And, like, his staff just grabs. our camera guy for RAV, and he's like, they're holding on him, and we just sort of hit, and it's like, boom. And he just keeps talking. I'm like, I don't know if that's ever happened in an interview before, but it was just, it was cool. Man. And when you landed, did you go and get a $23 burrito? We split it, actually.

Times are tough. Oh, man. That's, that's, we'll get by. All right. Jack, take us home. You know, there are ways to get cheaper burritos, just so everybody's aware. So support your local. support your local

hole in the wall. Actually, I'll say this as a thought crime for maybe next week, but I'm getting sick of those people who buy a 3D printer and make absolute 3D printed slop and call themselves a small business. I'm not supporting you. It's not good.

3D printed slop is not supporting local businesses and I'm sick of it and someone had to say it. Someone had to say it. It's gone too far. Ladies and gentlemen, on that note, as always, go out there, commit more. crime. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.