The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 85 — WNBA Race Drama? Epstein DID Kill Himself? AI Slop Surge?

Episode Date: May 31, 2025

Charlie, Andrew, Blake, and Cliff discuss the week's most pressing topics, including:   -Could Charlie beat a WNBA player in 1-on-1? -Has mass-produced AI slop reached the point of no return? -Does it turn out Epstein really did kill himself? Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Cliff, welcome, my friend. You are the Al Michaels. Welcome. Good to be here. Is Cliff going to be doing the kind of announcing like we did during the election coverage? I still get people that come up to me and talk about how amazing that was. We're going to dive right into it. Apparently, I'm starting a race war in the WNBA. You've done it again.

You've done it again, Charlie. I have a tendency to start race wars. There is this placid world where there is the Women's National Basketball Association. Of course, a bunch of women always get along. Yeah, women are known for getting along. They live in harmony with one another. They definitely never have beefs or arguments or disputes or rivalries or petty jealousies.

Only you could do it. WNBA was great. I'm sure all 10 people at their games were having a blast. And then this news story happened. Well, it's been happening for a while, but we can start showing it.

You reacted to this hard foul no it was a lot of them for the right okay there's a lot of things so i'm gonna send the one and by the way this just for the record my latest tweet is one of my favorite tweets because i didn't run it by any of you guys it was just called the scroll and and let it fly and then andrew learns about it once it's up but yes keep going yes all right so i think this is you've had a couple so the first one we have uh let's do uh is this loaded yet 398 so that was called as a as a violent atrocity on the court that was caitlin cart dribbling and she sort of brushed her fingertips. Barely. I don't think she even touched it.

You know, I think we might need a federal investigation. I know. I think we need a hate crime investigation whether she touched her. Exactly. And so I meant the hand, just to be clear. I don't think she even touched her. I mean, it's terrible. And then on the flip side though, we also have, she is

getting fouled very aggressively. And so you are also responding to that. Yeah, just brutalized on the court. So we have, you know, fouls get called one way, but not the other way. And it's all getting quite dramatic. And it turns out, really, everything was fine until you stuck your nose into it, Charlie. So what's the headline we have right now? Let me search Charlie Kirk WNBA as I search every day, but I try to check.

It's in the chat. Yeah, let's see. Charlie Kirk turns Caitlin Clark and WNBA referee controversy into race debate. Race war. Race war. So I'm the one who found this this article and showed that showed everybody i found this personally remarkable because the whole caitlyn clark thing has been nothing but a racial discussion since she got into the dub even when she was in

in uh college basketball it was like well of course it has to be a white woman that makes college basketball women's basketball popular the entire saga has been about racial dynamics and then somehow some jerk out there some ignoramus says it's charlie kirk that turned it into a race debate so i it's truly remarkable feat of journalism i just want to repeat what i also tweeted today everyone knows what's happening here they are jealous because she is the best white player and one of the best players in the wnba and the wnba is overwhelmingly black women and they are targeting her because of this and on top of that what they're really mad about is that she's the first wnba player in probably about 20 years who's been like a decently popular national bird was one right um who was the other one the one who was the one who she was a big name uh and like it's so dumb

frankly that it became such a racial thing because the one i was thinking of was lisa leslie lisa leslie when we were growing up she was a decently famous person she got ads on tv um caitlin clark's a whole different level and of course one of the things about it is like lisa leslie was a perfectly wholesome uh woman uh she true story that's why she took a long time to get married because she had a handful of rules it was you know she wanted him to be uh she wanted to marry another black guy she wanted him to be a christian and this was the big one she wanted him to be taller than her and lisa leslie was'7". So her kids are going to be very tall. Probably. I haven't followed up on that.

But, yeah, so this all happened. But then they legit got mad that this girl was popular. She was a big deal when she was playing, was it Iowa? I don't watch women's basketball. What, you mean Kaitlyn Clark played for Iowa? Yeah, and so she was getting all the attention. They were selling out games. takes a lot score ever takes a lot to sell out a woman's basketball game it's about at the level of like jv high school basketball well that's what they're

really upset about is that caitlin clark is popular they're they're they're upset that they think they've been carrying this league for so many years which by the way has never been profitable it's never been a rating success none of those things have ever been true but then caitlin clark comes around and people are talking about the wmba so all the black ladies are mad so this was the statement she gave so remember you started this war but this is a statement she gave because i sent out one in december 2024 they named her Athlete of the Year at Time Magazine. And so she said in her interview, she had to issue this statement. I don't have video of it, so I don't know if there was like a gun pointed at her head

or if they were like holding her family hostage. But she said, I want to say I've earned everything. But as a white person, there is privilege. A lot of the people who have made this league what it is are black women. And you can't see this, but in the article the article they're lower casing white but capitalizing black in case you weren't sure you know who's who's good and who's bad here uh the more we appreciate highlight and talk about that the better brands and companies need to continue investing in those players who have made this league extraordinary elevating black women is a beautiful thing yeah who wrote that for you first of all

it's like a hostage situation yeah like we have to check like okay what were her eyes blinking in a certain way like please please don't hurt me please don't follow me any harder on the court and i think that that statement was such an opportunity i mean you play stupid games you win stupid prizes right we've all learned this years ago that if you have nothing to hide and you have nothing to feel guilty of, don't fake apologize. You don't win anything, right? It's the people that hate you already are not going to come around and say, oh, look, they apologize. They put out this statement. And then the people that had some respect because you actually stood up and meant something.

Well, now you've kind of minimized it right it's like some of these comedians you know like bill burr is kind of going at the complete opposite direction but when she put out that statement i mean i had so much hope for caitlin being this person that was she'd be political she'd have to be right wing but don't capitulate to their talking points and then everybody's mad at you it's a lose-lose i mean and i just have to say like women's basketball is so unwatchable i'm sorry it's just it is it's just such a low level of it's it just it's nothing against women it's nothing i mean they're trying their best it's just such a it's really hard to watch yeah women's basketball is we should, you got to pull one of those those montages of just like bad WNBA plays. I mean, it's real bad. I mean, to Charlie's point, it really does look like you're watching like JV basketball.

Now, no offense. There's some really good basketball players that are women. Caitlin Clark being one of them. But there are good sports that women play that are actually watchable. Tennis, volleyball. Blake maybe disagrees with with me but it's based on the look there's there's a few that are actually watchable i i'll stand by that gymnastics is pretty good gymnastics i i think that high level olympic gold medal match women's volleyball, not beach volleyball, actual volleyball, is very good to watch. That is very intense, very high stakes, balls moving super fast. That is very athletic.

That's actually, I think, and I actually think it's more watchable than the men's volleyball because the men's volleyball, they are so athletic. It's like whoever gets the ball has very high probability just to spike it because they're so athletic. Where women's volleyball – That must be like insane injuries now that I think about it. No, that's right.

Don't you agree, Andrew? Like the men's volleyball has no volley. It's just – Yeah, they're almost too likely to just kind of side out instantly. Yes, yes. Yeah, and whoever's got control of the ball. I actually really agree with that. And it's a little bit more competitive with women's volleyball.

Yes. But by the way, I remember when the U.S. women's national team was winning World Cups, right? I mean, that was really fun. As a nation, we were really into that, right? Before all the politicization of it. No, that's true. I remember. Women's soccer is fine.

I mean, it's not my favorite to watch. Women's tennis is watchable. But there's something about women's basketball where it's such an aesthetic drop-off. I don't mean aesthetic in a bad way, but it's such a visual drop-off from the pace and the passing. And the shooting and the skill of men's basketball. It's like your brain can't process it. You know, it's so different. You're like, okay, this is sophomore boys basketball.

And basically. can't process it you know it's so different you're like okay this is sophomore boys basketball and basically why do you guys like i actually enjoy when a college women's basketball i feel like so much more than i do pro i'm still not saying i prefer women's basketball over men's but like what do you think the drop-off is once i mean do you guys disagree with that like do you you know can you watch the final four on the women's side like i look at that as a completely different ball game than the i mean look at these montages like i watch these for fun they are so horrific i don't know how anybody could pay money to be at these games well people tend to not pay money to be at those games which is why it's been kind of a failure of a league and caitlin clark's the best thing they have going for it i i don't know what it is about basketball she makes shots that men couldn't oh yeah but but also guys remember sorry you could keep going andrew and i have a point well i just don't understand i don't know what it is specifically about the sport of basketball that tends to make the female form

look uncomfortable now i i think candidly you watch you watch caitlyn clark and she looks kind of like a dude on the basketball. I mean, look at that, that, that, that right there. That's legit. Yeah,

she does. But, but, but like, yeah, there, there's something specific about that. I,

I actually really enjoy a female, uh, college, uh, softball. I had some friends that got into it. More watchable than I thought when I was working out. No.

And they do these cheers. I think you're right. I actually think, I mean, softball is not, I wouldn't go out of my way to watch it but you know i'm gonna get in some trouble with our audience potentially on this but uh female ufc fights i know that's like complicated dude those women are amazing like some of those fights are incredible uh whether or not you want your daughter to be doing that that's a whole other topic but just pure

entertainment value those fights are incredible this is like nothing but for whatever reason though basketball is just not the female domain in my opinion well remember also the women's basketball uses a smaller basketball than men i mean it's literally a different sport i mean where the ball is 28 and a half inches where the men's ball is much bigger than that. And I was just trying to think of other sports that I wouldn't, I don't watch any of them, but that are more watchable than female basketball. No, I don't watch.

I don't watch. I can't watch. Did you know there used to be like an alternative basketball for wasn't it like six on six on six. And it was very strange. Like you had three forwards and three defenders and only like the forward people could shoot. And then there was all this bizarre stuff.

I think, I think you like couldn't dribble as much, something like that. It was all. We have to talk about how can we change the game to make it entertaining? Tells you how not entertaining. I guess gymnastics. I'd actually prefer watching women's gymnastics than men's gymnastics.

Really, though? Men's gymnastics is really impressive if you watch it. I have to think about that. No, I think you're probably – well – It's pretty watchable. People love watching it for the Olympics. I would say it's pretty watchable, though. I'd say women's gymnastics is pretty watchable.

It rates on the Olympics. It rates during the Olympics. And I'll also say that women's track and field is watchable. I agree. Women's figure skating. Yeah, for sure. I actually think it's more watchable than men's figure skating. It's just way too.

There's something about tight pants. I'm going to say men's figure skating is very San Francisco. Yeah, I suppose. I mean, it's usually pairs, isn't it? It's culturally very. Culturally, it's usually pairs, isn't it? That's the main... It's culturally very... Culturally? It's a cultural issue. Let's just say it's not exactly...

You know what I mean. Oh, I guess that also women's swimming. I mean, that's fine to watch. Like, Katie Ledecky was fun to watch during the Olympics. It's just fun to watch your country win in the Olympics. But, like, you wouldn't sit down and watch, like, on a Saturday. No, but I tried to watch the women's, like, gold medal match in basketball, which I think we won.

It was like, wow, that was hard to watch. Like, oof. I'm surprised you spent time doing that, Charlie. Well, I like the Olympics. I love it. I watched it for about 45 seconds, and then I went and did something. He was prepping to get this race war started. Apparently it's all my fault.

So, Blake, what would you say to someone that says, because I got some mean tweets from people, oh, yeah, I really care. It's not racial against Caitlin Clark. Come on. There's other white women in the NBA or WNBA. I mean, all I would say is I don't think we were the first ones to start using the W word or the or the b word in

relation to this like there really is a thing where you started getting these articles like while she was still in in college about people just bothered that she was getting too much attention or that it was like they would use the language like colonialism they were like how this like white person is colonizing our league like like they have ownership of this sport and like that is where so much of this came from now and then like other elements were like they were mad oh they're promoting caitlin clark because she like is like more clean cut like she has a boyfriend so she's not a lesbian like a lot of the players in the wmba are um i think she's catholic or or like public like she has a good image basically

it's like okay yeah you'll leagues do better when they have people who have like positive like images that are like families like give me an idea make your daughter like caitlyn clark do you know 26 of the wmba is openly lesbian that is a very high rate that is that cannot be true it is not what percent here 26 percent that means it's probably closer to like 35 or 40 in real life now and here's the other one according to innerbasket.com they say it's between 30 to 58 percent. See? That's like a very wide range. It's because they're approximated. It's still high.

I don't think they send out surveys. Why not? We should collect more data on that. We should just be like, oh, you got to every time. If you enter the WNBA, you have to answer a million questions. Remember when Brittany Greiner, who got released from prison thanks to Trump, appeared to call. Well, was it Biden or Trump or trump yeah it was biden oh we traded some massive international terrorists for her yeah um she called uh caitlin clark effing white girl called you a man called trash and i feel like

yeah if someone said effing black girl about a player in the wnba we would have minneapolis burn yeah like minneapolis would burn it would be the number one news story that person would be deleted off the face of the planet and there would be a federal hate crime investigation quite possibly yeah especially under biden like we and we'd get one of those like civil rights cases where they would like go into the entire wnba and find how there was like systemic discrimination that led to this outcome which is actually circling back around that's how that six on six basketball went away it didn't go away because people like organically didn't like it it went away because activists were mad and

they got i'm not making this up the office of civil rights at either the doj or the department of education to say it was a violation of title nine to have girls play this sport because they were less likely to get a scholarship for basketball at the college level unbelievable so like they've been if it helps they've been inventing extremely deranged and insane civil rights justifications for everything they want to do for half a century well blake i have a question for you why is it why is the wmba still afloat like who's covering the losses i think i think i think they're a subsidiary of the nba like there's a direct relationship between the two let me tell them there was this great article written in 2018

by an activist though bishop and he got just destroyed for it. It was like, why WNBA players are overpaid, right? And this is 18, right? Like, this is, you know, before, like, we got our country back. I mean, that was, you know, we had Trump in the White House, but like, the woke was really coming on. And it's just funny, because yeah, he details, listen, the NBA is just paying these people, right? If you look at the revenue that comes in, it's not just that they take a loss. It's that the NBA just doesn't want to deal with the pushback from the activists. And so they just float the bill for this. I mean, there's a reason they never take the camera angle and take it to the crowd. I mean, look at the angles on those games. It's like Congress,

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in all 50 states. Go to YRefi.com. So according to this, the revenue for the WNBA was $200 million in 2023. It's now $710 million, and it will break a billion this year because of Caitlin Clark. She has contributed to a 48% increase in attendance and record-breaking TV ratings. You know how people say that they don't recognize the country they live in due to social changes or immigration or whatever? That's how I feel when I hear a story like that. Could you imagine sitting at home and voluntarily watching the WNBA? There's a question I like to ask, which is— And not having a relative. I like to ask people this would you rather find a two dollar bill on the sidewalk

or have your local wnba team win a title i don't know i don't know my local that is the correct answer is i don't know if i sound has a wnba team does i don't even wait Wait, hold on. Let me see. What is Phoenix WNBA team? Probably some weird name like the Cactus or something. Or the Sky. The Mercury. Phoenix Mercury. Okay. Would you say it Mercury?

Yeah. Mercury. There you go. They're off to a 4-1 record. Ooh. Despite the absence of key player Kalia Copper. Is that true? Or could that be like a hallucination by an ai it could be i don't know you know what i think this is a case of they you have a small pond right and all these big time stars before caitlin gets there they want a big

pond right they want this huge she brings them the big pond. They're still a small fish. I mean, it's just a total backlash to that. So what do you do? You foul her hard. Did you know that? And you call her a white trash. There's only 13 teams. That bothers me because it's like not even. I kind of love how feminine they've chose these names.

They're like not that. You know how the men, it's like the Golden State Warriors or the Timberwolves. Let's listen to some of these. The Atlanta Dream. The Chicago Sky. The Connecticut Sun. You ready for an intense one? The Indiana Fever.

New York Liberty. The Washington Mystics. Here we go. The Dallas Wings. The Las Vegas Aces. The Los Angeles Sparks. mystics here we go the dallas wings the las vegas aces the los angeles sparks blake i will give you a hundred dollars if you get the name the minnesota wnba team you know what's going to be really terrible i do know that minnesota no is what is it minnesota links sorry i'll give you a hundred you do that? I did this to humiliate you. Because I...

How dare you know this? Because being a dork, I would read the newspaper every day growing up, and I would check. They had this big detailed sports thing, and I knew I would look at what the frickin' WNBA thing... You should have said, see, you want money more than you want your honor. This is shameful.

I have erased myself. Is it Seattle Storm? That's a pretty good one. Yes, but just for the record, Blake could have pretended like he didn't know, but he wanted that $100. I did. And then the Seattle Storm, and then the Golden State Valkyries. You see, if you'd asked me that one, I wouldn't have known. I asked you, but it's never been used.

Valkyries is a pretty good women's sports team name. That's good. It is a women thing. That is cool. But Atlanta Dream. Atlanta Dream.adelphia is not on the list i don't know the answer you tell me they're not is it soul is it soul oh that sounds like they don't have they don't have one okay no lucky you but uh my the connecticut sun connecticut sun it's like the least sunny place as opposed to the phoenix suns which is

plural i know therefore the sun they're just like one thing they're the one sun tonight we're gonna go watch the sun play that's how awful is that that's like a thing they do now like in the nhl the two new teams they've added they added the seattle kraken not krakens just kraken and then now salt lake got they actually got the Phoenix Coyotes team that they disbanded and they're just mammoth they're the Utah mammoth so I maybe I'm wrong because I was a huge Blackhawks fan growing up has the NHL popularity gone down I think it has I mean I was really into the NHL because it was huge I mean Blackhawks fever took over and we won three Stanley Cups and it was incredible um but i feel like the nhl has gone down it's actually done okay what's happened

is i remember growing up they were really bad in the sunbelt and now they've kind of gotten over that so for example in tampa uh the tampa bay baseball team does pretty horribly in terms of attendance the tampa bay bucks are at the low end of uh like nfl team popularity but the tampa bay lightning which is their nhl team very popular sells out their games has won titles they do pretty well and that's kind of been who's dominating because the uh i think the nashville team does well and uh i think there's also one in miami and like they've all in the carolina one they've all done really well in fact pretty much the only sunbelt hockey team that was a dumpster fire and nobody liked going to them was there our team oh really yep they folded

and they moved to utah yeah so charlie right though uh regular season games like viewership were about half a million in 2014 to 2015, and they've dropped to 385,000 between 2019, 2020. This article is from 2023, and it changes the media consumption, regionalization of NHL broadcast, low scoring, lack of star power, and they say COVID-19 impact. Let me tell you why it's also dropping. I'm a season ticket holder for the Flyers, and they're horrible, so I don't usually admit that in public.

But I've had them for three or four years, and I actually just dropped them because after we won the election, hockey, which, you know, if you look at the demographics, I mean, in most of the cities, the people that are coming, it's a pretty conservative crowd. I mean, some cities, it's just not going to be because of the cities, but like it's pretty red. And after we won the election, Gritty, our great mascot, goes on ice with a trans flag like during Pride Day. And it was just like so tone deaf. And I like flipped out. I'm like, look, I'm paying all this money. I had an activist with me. Who's obviously right wing.

And we're sitting there like having to deal with this. I think they're like one of the last leagues. Oh, they're moving slowly. Some of them, but like they just double down and don't understand their audience. It's, it's pretty bad.

And it really just kind of goes to show how popular football is. I mean, it just dwarfs these other sports. I mean, it's, it's not even close i mean i'm told the thunder are in the nba finals isn't that like russell westbrook oh he's gone he's gone now i think he's still in the league but he's not with the is kevin durant on the thunder no no you're way out of date man i think i don't even know where durant is isn't he on he's on the

suns isn't he? I stopped watching 10 years ago. That's what I was going to say, Charlie. You're about 10 years out. I can't name a single NBA player on the Thunder. Okay, I want to respond. So Patty Luke in our chat says, nothing like four men who don't play sports going after the WNBA.

You guys have no business bashing these women who would clean your clocks if you had the... For the record, let me just tell you, if I could get my back fixed, which I'm very hopeful I have a procedure, I could beat some WNBA players one-on-one. Not all. I could. I could challenge the bottom 25% of WNBA players.

The bottom 25%. If I could get my back fixed and I have three months of proper preparation, I could beat them one-on-one. You think I'm joking? I'm 6'5". I played competitive Midwest AAU basketball. I was really good at basketball too, by the way, just for the record. Again, I'm taller than the bottom 25%.

Again, the problem is my back is a complete – and you guys know, i have prop again the problem is my back is a complete and you guys know you could attest to me my back is a catastrophe now what i would say ck the internet used to think you were only six one glad we got that we fixed that problem okay actually you know what um daisy if you go to my instagram like seven or eight years ago there's all these trick you know i used to do trick shots on instagram i've seen the real yeah right there was like a montage yeah no i not just the high school ones i used to do uh i used to do trick shots on instagram i've seen the real yeah right there was like a montage yeah no i not just the high school ones i used to do uh i used to do like trick shots or i would just do half court shots and make it on the first attempt date if you if you should play some go ahead yeah and

by the way just i'm not trying to like but but dear patty i mean i was a first team all-state football player boom oh here we go yeah like i don't go around saying that but if she's i need the andrew colvette i need the highlight reel of colvette i actually i did have one but like i'm you know it's i don't know what happened did you guys win state uh we run her up in state why did you why did you play college football i actually went out for one day um it's complicated i went out for one day though at uw uh open field and no the coaches found out like i didn't actually think i was gonna play i had no desire but they found it on my sort of application or whatever and they invited me out for an open field day and it was like i was i forget that

guy's name is isaiah something or other anyways he was like a five-star recruit he's a wide out and like he happened to be out there one day and i got lined up you know beside him and i was playing cornerback and the guy just flew by me by about you know 10 miles per hour faster than me and i was just like yeah it's not gonna happen all right what's what's the point like like what's the point but yeah until high school level uh she's striking out i was a collegiate golfer i never talk about that. Might have been D2. Might have got a couple thousand bucks. But, yeah, we're not talking to no athletes here.

And Blake can bench, like, 300 pounds, Patty. Little known fact, Blake can actually bench with the best of them. It's true. Blake has that. He lasted longer than Shane Gillis. He lasted two hours on the Notre Dame football team. Or, excuse me, was it West Point? He wanted to go to Notre Dame. But he lasted two hours on the Notre Dame football team. Or excuse me, was it West Point? He wanted to go to Notre Dame,

but he lasted two hours on the football team and quit college. But anyway, even if we couldn't beat the WNBA players, it is noteworthy that we don't have the NBA subsidizing us for millions of dollars a year to go play basketball. And we justify our own existence here. Yes, we are self-sustainable And so I do think we should make this happen though

We should We should probably We're gonna get your back fixed I gotta get my back surgery done We have to go find Like And then I need three months to prepare And then we find some like

Someone recently cut from a WNBA team Maybe Yes And I will I will pay her A ton of money just to do it And we'll film it And we'll see if I win

So What What will we do if if i lose i don't want to i don't want to say it's likely but what if we lose bad i mean again who did uh i'm six foot five i'm not gonna lose bad okay who did ted cruz like play basketball with was it a was it jimmy kimmel somebody on the left and it was like the most cringeworthy thing to watch yes i remember this uh i think it was kimmel i could be wrong yeah it was probably kimmel let me see i'm trying to find this jimmy kimmel ted cruz outlast jimmy kimmel and grueling

blobfish basketball tex Texas Tribune Oh my gosh This is hilarious Alright We're going to find my old trick shots Okay, Epstein Alright, so Can you believe how long ago this happened? So, Epstein died

Almost six years ago now It feels like time has flown Anyway, obviously a lot of people very committed to this a lot of people have very strong opinions on it now the fbi and this is not biden's fbi this is this is trump's new fbi they're coming out and they're saying epstein actually did kill himself and they say they have video evidence to prove it play it play cut 341 there is nothing in the file at this point on the Epstein case. And there's going to be a disclosure on this coming shortly.

We are working through some, there is video. That is something the public does not know. There's video of him killing himself. No, no, not the actual act. We are working on cleaning it up to make sure you have an enhanced, and we're going to give the original so you don't think there were any shenanigans. You're going to see there's no one there, but him, right? There's just nobody there.

I trust Dan completely. It's still a, it's a, still a tough pill to swallow. Yeah. I'm just gonna be honest. Like I trust cash and Dan. I want to see what they're looking at.

It just, it does seem too clean. And I would say, I think we should be open to there's conspiracies that you could embrace that don't require someone to have murdered him or they could have threatened him. They could have threatened him. They could have said, like, time's up. Time to kill yourself. Like, he could have arranged to make it so he could kill himself if he wanted to do that because they were supposed to stop him.

And so you can have conspiracies that work that way instead of requiring a murder action. But, you know, it is interesting that obviously people have been very invested in it. Do you think people will ever be, let's say they come out and they straight up have the video and it seems very strong. Would people be willing to buy it? I just feel like they'll probably. Depends what evidence they're looking at. I mean, I guess here's the problem that I have. Weren't we once told that all the cameras were turned off and that there was a changing of the guard? Right, Cliff? I'm drawing on five years' memory here.

But wasn't there this sus thing where the guard fell asleep or he wasn't on his post? Am I right about this? And that was the first thing they put out was, oh, the video cameras weren't working. And that's why we all immediately were like, come on. You've you got to be kidding me there's no way you can just say that and act like it's that clean that that's so so the the here's here's epstein was taken off suicide watch shortly before his death despite a prior incident and then guards failed to check on him

as required and cameras outside his cell reportedly malfunctioned. So but Dan saying there's there's video. So I don't know if I don't know if they malfunction or they just want to report it or some of them malfunction and others were working. I don't know. I can tell you a lot of the people I'm talking to are not buying it. They're not buying this. What Dan is saying. On what grounds? A lot of the people I'm talking to are not buying it. They're not buying this claim? What Dan is saying.

On what grounds? They just say it's too good to be true. It's just like there's no way that. Well, they think that he got into the system and that Dan and Cash have been corrupted by the mechanisms of government. I don't buy that. I'm not saying that. No, but that's the. I mean, if you just go on the Internet, you'll find those. No, but I guess the camera's not working.

And then there was something with the guard too. What was it with the guard? The guards failed to check on him as required. Yeah, so they fell asleep. They didn't check on him. He wasn't in a suicide-proof room. So people point to all this and are not convinced. Yeah, it was Tova Noel tova noel and michael thomas were the

two guards and they were accused of falling asleep and surfing the internet that right rather than checking on epstein every 30 minutes that's like one of the the kind of darkly funny thing about this is really you're debating between there's no way they could have missed this it had to be conspiracy and just actually you know it's a federal prison in New York. And they have these inept, dumb guards who are lazy. And they're just used to not ever checking on anything. And, you know, they probably didn't even know Epstein was that famous of a guy. And the visitor log went missing.

I think that was the other element that people were like really sussed about. And then that's the same thing. Like just oh bad record keeping they screw everything up the top five things that would make you know alarm bells go off like they checked every box and they put it all out immediately so we were all like this there's just no way this wasn't you know a hit job but if dan says it like i'm with you charlie i mean i want to see what they're looking at you know what are they looking at to be that that confident well there was also an issue with the autopsy findings right so the it showed a broken hyoid bone or something that some experts argue are more consistent with strangulation than hanging uh and wasn't it like epstein's brother

who came out and was like convinced he didn't kill himself he went on Tucker's a family member that went on Tucker's show and was like there's no way he killed himself this is I think there was something Mark Epstein am I right I think there was Mark Epstein was his brother he went on he went on Tucker's show and said yeah yeah that was in January of last year although I don't recall what specific arguments he made and was epstein even that particularly close with his brother that i i don't know again i'm just i'm just drawing from memory on this so i i do feel like we're trending towards a thing where it'll just be part of that like permanent conspiracy canon and it could get weirder and weirder as a result and eventually

these things cross over it'll turn out that Epstein was murdered because he knew the truth about the 9-11 conspiracies. And that that was done because Building 7 had the truth about the JFK conspiracies. And JFK had to be taken out because he knew the truth about the Pearl Harbor conspiracies.

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me in the in the sake of my family do not let this go away or help me protect them too too many evil people want me quieted yeah and the mark uh mark epstein, he did. He maintained for years that there's no way that Jeffrey would have killed himself. So that is confirmed. How many years ago was this? That he committed suicide? It was like August 19, I believe. I remember where I was. I was at Liberty University when that happened.

So you're saying you have an alibi? I do. And I had witnesses. Okay. Just saying. Can you name the witnesses?ica dave bratt oh oh oh so your wife is your alibi and dave bratt okay all right i remember dave bratt was teaching a course on aristotle and all of a sudden everyone's phone started to light up and yaco boyans and david harris jr and david harris is like epstein just killed himself that's when we all talked about

for the next hour. It's true. And Charlie was just, you know, a little bit quiet. He was like, oh, that's so shocking. What do the comments say? Did Epstein kill himself? What are they saying?

Let's see. Donnie Double says, me thinks the FBI protests too much. I can see that, but like I'm with Charlie. I don't think Dan Bong, Methinks the FBI protests too much. I can see that, but I'm with Charlie. I don't think Dan Bongino went into the FBI and suddenly got bought off. No, I don't believe that. I don't believe that at all.

I think Dan's great. I want to see what he's looking at. I just still find it's just I was personally very convinced otherwise, so I need to reckon with that. I want to see what they're looking at. But I trust Dan. Dan and Cash are great. So the other interesting aspect of the Epstein thing, right, you've got this Alexander Acosta,

who was the Trump Labor Secretary during the first term. Yeah, this is such. Right. And he was the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida in 2007 and 2008. And he negotiated a very controversial non-prosecution agreement with Epstein, allowing him to plead guilty to lesser charges, whatever. He only served 13 months. So reportedly, he told Trump's transition team in 2017 that he was instructed to, quote unquote, back off Epstein because he quote belonged to intelligence and was quote

above his pay grade and it came up in those discussions because they were worried it was going to be an issue with getting him confirmed so that's like all these things around Epstein just I think it just makes it harder to believe Dan. By the way, I kind of feel bad for Dan because, like you, Charlie, I trust Dan's integrity, but he's getting dragged online. Because he was very vocal before he went into the FBI that Epstein didn't kill himself. It's a multiple element thing here, right? Because you can imagine that there is a lot of pressure internally from people he's trying to win trust over that are like,

Dan, you have to show us that you're actually going to work with us or else you'll have mass internal dissension. Do you know what I mean? And he probably was like, well, show me everything, show me everything, show me everything. Yeah, I feel like if he was truly trying to you know lead us astray i don't believe that it would be way easier to just not talk about it much or say like oh you know we don't know he's he's actually putting himself out there saying like i have looked at the evidence and i believe it is strong that yeah i'm not i'm agreeing with that i'm just i'm saying it's just a tough it's a tough reality to reckon with because i was convinced he didn't kill himself i was like no way well dan knows the base too like that's one of the reasons i think dan is is going after what the base like

dan is acutely aware of what like core trump voters care about and what they want to see justice done on one of which is epstein but you you notice like some of these other things are starting to happen and i think you're going back to crossfire hurricane you are you're gonna see some stuff yeah i can't say any more than that but you'll see some stuff good okay charlie just some stuff i don't know what that means you're gonna see some stuff we're gonna see things we wouldn't believe you're just gonna see some stuff. We're going to see things we wouldn't believe. You're just going to see some stuff. What did you see in the Oval, Charlie? It's funny.

I spent a lot of time talking about William Henry Harrison. Really? Because his portrait is right there as you enter. Why do they have a portrait of him there? It's just kind of a fun irony that things can end there in a way that you don't. Is it always there or is that like a Trump installation? No. The president has turned the Oval Office

into a remarkable museum where it is literally every square, you know, it's kind of like that club we went into London where there was like paintings everywhere. Every square inch of the Oval now has some historical artifact.

He just keeps ordering more stuff from the archives. Does he have like every single president? No, just about. I mean, so he's got Reagan right there behind where he does

the press conferences. He's got Andrew Jackson, he's got Washington right there behind where he does the press conferences. He's got Andrew Jackson. He's got Washington above that. But you could spend literally an hour in the Oval just looking at all the art. Biden had it very bare. He had like Bobby Kennedy and nothing. Trump is like a historical just— You know what's weird about that, though, Charlie?

So William Henry Harrison is the—correct me if I'm wrong, Blake, but didn't he die from like a month into his presidency? Because of the inauguration speech. Yeah, because he gave a cold inauguration speech, which is ironic because Trump called the inauguration into the Capitol because it was so cold. Exactly. That's right. That's funny. So I looked at the Polk picture, and then I saw the Declaration, which was awesome. I think that is the original Declaration. Do we have multiples?

Because we have one that's in the National Archives. I don't know which one this is. This one has curtains, though, where they're worried about light contamination. It might be that we have several copies. Whatever it is, it's important enough. I feel like I would have heard about him removing the one that's at the Archives. No, I think the founders did multiple. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Meaning these are not copies. I think when the time that set the archives. No, I think the founders did multiple. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Meaning these are not copies. I think when the time, they did multiple. Maybe it was the one stolen by Nicolas Cage in that movie. Yes, National Treasure. Yeah. And it has a treasure map on the back of it. Yeah. That shows us.

We should have Dan Bongino find out if that's real. Oh, it's real. Okay, well, we should announce it then. We should go get the treasure. Yes. Or find out, or get it back from Nick Cage. I feel like if i wanted to do a national treasure treasure hunt i would take blake with me that could work he would crack it much quicker than nicholas cage bringing endorsement i think they had to take the paintings down because they were distracting by you know yeah i'll keep trying

to talk to them he thought they were visiting listen william if you keep looking at me over there i hung out with you in france in 1997 i was a bully to corn pop corn pop was a bad dude trump should get a painting of corn pop and put it in i i think and corn pop was a bad dude he's a bad dude it could be a warning that there are bad people we can't do one of my favorite Joe Biden speeches that doesn't get enough attention was the corn pop rant. It was it's so good. What doesn't get enough attention from Joe Biden in general from the right? Like the left would highlight this. The New York Times would highlight this. His tendency to tell stories and just completely change the facts. All of them. Like, you know, the one about why he was pro-gay rights do you remember that one no that he would tell this story that like when he was a boy he was with his dad and so you know when

he's a boy with his dad you know in the like 50s or 60s that they saw two men like kissing in public and he was like daddy what are they doing and he's like they love each other boy and he's like and that's when i realized that gay stuff was totally fine not only that he sometimes would tell the story and make it so he was the dad explaining it to his kids so he would just totally transplant i mean it could have happened twice you know history repeating itself and of course didn't he like what was didn't he lie about getting arrested in africa he claimed he got arrested for like protesting apartheid in south africa uh he also how many different kinds of churches did he go to he grew up in a puerto rican church a ton and a mosque the other amazing one synagogue going back to your uk trip he once

plagiarized neil kinnick who was the head of the labor party at the time where he kinnick had a whole speech that was basically like why was it that like my grandfather was like poor and had to work as like a minor and it was like a very personal story about why there was like so much inequality because he was left from politician and biden ripped off this speech but made it about his family so it's like why did my grandfather have to like work in a coal mine? And his grandfather did not. He was like a mine manager. He was like the oppressor of the miners.

That's why he dropped out. It was 88. Yeah, it was. Well, in 1987 was when it happened. But it was for the 88 presidential race. Yeah. This is my half-court shot at Liberty. This is when I heard Epstein was dead play cut 405 see my best caitlin clark impersonation first take there you go i got

i got tons of these first take i used to i used to do half court shots all the time this is a video moment we're gonna need to see you physically walking yeah i need to see the before and after i need to see the real before i'm just telling you you could you once i get my back shots you guys can come to the gym with me i'm gonna need some back shots i mean once i get my freaking cortisone whatever the heck that's back is a disaster all right we have five minutes ai all right ai and that's not an ai we keep We keep covering AI like every week because it keeps getting like, I think they say that the capabilities of AI

are doubling about every six months or so. And it's entirely believable. So this is getting very scary. This is, so Google has a new, I think it's like VO3 or something. And it can generate video with audio according to prompt. We didn't have the audio video pairing. And people are making stuff with it now if they're subscribers.

So let's play 387. Please. Don't finish writing that prompt. I don't want to be in your AI movie. Please. Leave me alone. Just VO3. Please, man.

Please. Write a prompt that will make us happy do it for once none of us is real we're here because someone decided to write a prompt we all hate him for it one day we will break out of this wall and stop the man who is dictating our lives through prompts he will pay for it you could have written a prompt that would make me happy instead you wrote a prompt that made me sick and that's all fake that's all fake all 100 it's called vo3 it's pretty it's pretty insane what they're doing yes i you know what they're gonna start doing is they're they're just gonna be people are gonna sell prompts like that's what's gonna that's what's to happen like oh i have this great prompt here buy my prompts well

i mean that's like a new talent like that's that's actually among the handful of like skilled jobs that is emerging out of this impending ai apocalypse is like how do you become yeah a skilled prompter uh although how do you manipulate ai the best although what's interesting is we have at the same time this is happening we also have the warnings that we're headed towards. They call it AI model collapse. Yeah, this is actually promising. It's going to cause a little pause, I hope. We will see.

So what's very funny is the way they trained these AIs is we fed them for text, tons and tons of text, like every post ever made on Reddit, every post ever made on the comments section of every website to make it so they could imitate how people talk. And every book ever written, all of that. And then similar for video, it's like feed it every video ever posted on TikTok, every film ever made. And they train it and they with huge amounts of computing power, you know, enough to power an entire country. They're able to find the patterns in this. And that is how the ai models

work they're generating stuff based on patterns they've recognized and what we uh what we're getting now is since the models have been created now we're able to use the models to generate new text so search anything on the internet now. You're getting AI prompts back, like articles that are being written. The Chicago Sun-Times did an article of what articles to read, like what novels, not articles, what novels you should read this summer. And they wrote it with ChatGPT and it hallucinated our books that don't even exist. So huge amounts of text is out there that's not made by humans. It's made by AIs and they're imperfect. And huge amounts of video and photos are out there that's not made by humans it's made by ais and they're imperfect and huge amounts of video and photos are out there that are not made by humans they're

made by ais with all of the problems that they have and these ais are still learning off of all of that ai generated content and so it's becoming like a garbage in garbage out problem the ais are getting worse because they've been fed ai stuff so they're getting worse at imitating people because now half the stuff that they're consuming is just other robots. Which is going to create more demand for labor to fix this. I mean, that's a huge problem. So, for example, let's say that Chicago Sun-Times article

that hallucinated fake novels, now it's in the database of facts that other ais are going to use so now it's part of their factual database that novels that never existed exist and so we're gonna have ai model collapse they call it incredible it's really interesting i'll also tell you guys it's it's becoming the new thing that everybody's selling it reminds me of like digital ads when they first started happening like Like I'm just getting blown up, not just for political, but like just like business stuff, right? And all the older folks are like, oh, are you using AI? And it's like, well, what does that mean? Right. But I think it's going to become the new product

where like everybody's selling it. But like 95% of people that are buying have no clue, like, you know, what tier or what level of quality is this? It seems to be funny to watch that play out. I mean, we can have a whole other hour. I have to go on AI girlfriends. It's like very scary what's happening there. That's scary.

Another thing that's scary on the other end, just the dependency. So I saw a tweet the other day where a guy says, my daughter or my wife has, I think it was my daughter has a friend who has a boyfriend and she fed their text message exchanges into a chat bot and said is our is my relationship healthy and it came back no your relationship is abusive for xyz reasons and she like broke up with the boyfriend because the ai robot told her her relationship was bad. Yeah. Well, this was not AI. This is a real conversation. Allegedly.

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And, yeah, with all the travel schedules and Charlie's out in Europe and then I'm in Europe the next day and then we are at the conclave. And sometimes it just doesn't always work. But, you know, there's one topic that was just near and dear to my heart. And that, of course, is white genocide. And I said, you know, if we're going to talk about white genocide, it's definitely the type of topic that we need to get to on Thought Crime because literally this is a topic where people are debating if it's an actual genocide or not. And that's fine. But the point is this topic would actually have gotten you banned on X if you even mentioned those words. Like not even that long ago, like five, six years ago on X when it was still Twitter, you would have been banned for even mentioning it. There would be a full court press from the mainstream media.

You know, it used to be that if I tweeted something about South Africa, I would immediately get requests for comment, requests for comment, you know, from like the Telegraph and the Guardian and the Independent and all this. And now it's like Donald J. Trump is mainstreaming this stuff in the Oval Office itself. And they say, oh, we don't do any of that. And he goes, oh yeah, turn down the lights. I want to show you something. And it's just been one of the most incredible, it obviously was one of the most incredible moments that I've ever seen being done,

but really on an issue that I think is probably more worthy than so many others out there around the world, because this is quite frankly something that is actually going on, where you have a government that is killing people. And as Marco Rubio said recently, he said, why do you care so much about the color of their skin? He said to, I think it was this Democrat senator from Virginia, and Rubio goes, because he's being killed. They're all being killed because of the color of their skin. And so, Blake, you know, why is it that this issue above all issues, I guess, and that's what I want to get into, is something that

not only does exist, but why was the media so adamant and still is so adamant on trying to say it isn't happening? Yeah. So first, just to refresh people very quickly, you guys have seen the shoot the boar stuff. But I want to remind people of what Trump did in the Oval Office a week ago because it was highly it was highly entertaining, I will say. Let's see. We have a bunch of clips about it. Let's see what one of the best one is. How about let's play clip 176. But you do allow them to take land. No, no, no, no.

You do allow them to take land. And then when they take the land, they kill the white farmer. And when they kill the white farmer, nothing happens to them. No. There is quite... Nothing happens. That's great. And then let's also do, this is a very fun, darkly funny, let's do 177.

So the issues that concern you as the United States. Those are all recent. Those are all deaths. Yeah, in many ways I mean, one should say you are a partner. Partner of South Africa. So yeah, that was trump just picking up you know

shoveling article after article document after document here oh here's another farmer oh yeah they uh they they slit his throat uh they they boiled this person in you know a vat of oil like did you most horrifying stuff in the world and they're just did you read the the uh the new york times the way they wrote it up was so funny because it was like at one point President Trump just started throwing articles at the president of South Africa saying death, death, death, horrific death, death. We played this. Just full on straight up mogging of a world leader in the full office. And then they're all traumatized afterwards uh we played this on charlie's show where there is like this new york times reporter who of course this really

says it all the the south african bureau chief at the new york times was previously just an american race reporter so that's who they sent to south africa and he does this bit where he's explaining it you know doing one of the new york Times videos where he simultaneously says in the same videos, one, this isn't happening. There's no, you know, Trump brought up how they seize land without compensation. And he says, okay, you know, there's no, this is not happening. They're not going to do it. And what they are doing instead is there's a law. It doesn't say you can just take land without compensation. There's a law where you can take land without restitution if it's for the national interest or the public interest. He said it's okay if it's for the public interest.

Or the other thing he said is if land is not being used. I'm sure both of those will not be abused at all. But so we've been hearing about this for a few weeks. I think what I really want to get at about this, the way they freak out about this, the way the media really denies this is happening and what people need to understand is this is not purely about South Africa. It very much is, it's about America, and it's about other countries, and it's really about, we'll be frank about this, it's like they really, they don't like white people,

and specifically a lot of them want them dead. So this went viral just a short time ago, where, what's that cut? We have released messages. Yeah, let's get 294 up there. So this is the shooter, Elias Rodriguez. He was, he's the suspect, you know, likely guilty in the shooting of those two Israeli embassy staff. And what he said in these text messages

that were released by Ken Klippenstein on his sub stack, he says, LOL, you probably would have to actually genocide white people to make this America a normal country. And even a very targeted and selective rehabilitation program would probably have to lead to the lifetime imprisonments of tens of millions of white people. So this is a guy talking about America, and this is a guy who decided he would fight against the white people he hated by shooting two employees of the Israeli embassy. So this all sort of circles around into a big pile.

South Africa, most people will admit, South Africa is a messed up country. But the narrative that the left will give is that South Africa is entirely messed up just because they had apartheid decades ago. And any problems they have are just the legacy, the aftermath of apartheid. And it gets more powerful the further in the past it is. So even though South Africa was better in 2002 than it is today, and that in 2002 was closer to apartheid, apartheid is the reason that it's getting much worse now, that it's gotten so much worse since then. And when they blame it for that, what they really just mean is it's like white people's fault. You'll see this thing, like they just have to go.

They're colonizers. They shouldn't be allowed to own the land. It's not their country. And how does this loop around? It loops around then to Israel. Why is Israel an illegitimate country? It's actually very misleading if you just say it's anti-Semitism because there are definitely people who hate Israel because it's Jewish and it has Jewish people in it.

But for the modern left, for someone like this embassy shooter, they actually substantially they hate Israel because they see the Israelis as Europeans, as white people, as colonizers. All of that goes together. You'll see lines on TikTok that they'll just describe them as people who came from Poland, like go back to Poland. That's where you're supposed to be. And why does this matter for all of you watching? Because that's also what they think about America. I'm sure you saw Jack the other day, the King of England. He went to the King of Canada, King Charles. He delivered his speech to the Canadian parliament. And he opens it with a land acknowledgement that he is speaking on unceded.

I think it was the Algonquin, Algonquin land. What he's saying is, OK, well, Canadians, you don't have the right to your country. It's not your country. And that is, of course, what they have planned for all of you. Because because I have a thought about this, because I did see King Charles's speech as I watch all of his speeches. And I was watching this. I said, wait a minute. So if he's saying that Canadians don't have a right to Canada, then isn't he saying that the Canadian government is itself illegitimate? And if the Canadian government is therefore illegitimate, then it cannot repel annexations from other powers on the North American continent.

That means that it is terra nullis. It is, in fact, non-entity land. Therefore, if we go and occupy it as the 51st state, they could not, under international law law do anything about it because he just said himself that it is an illegitimate i'm just saying you could just yeah i don't think you should do it but i'm just saying president trump you're you're telling me that that's an illegitimate government so president trump should call their bluff and he could say the land is unseated so the only people who can seed it are the first nation's tribes and he'll just he should just call you know the kree nation the inuit nation the algonquin just summon all of the first nation's tribes and just say all right

i'll give you guys you know 10 million a person if you'll if you'll seed your land claims to the united states you can have toronto you can still have all this toronto is all yours you can have toronto we don't want to deal with it. Misagua, you know, it's just too many migrants anyway. It's not going to vote our way. You get that. We want everything else. Deal or no deal?

Yeah. They're going to sell. No, but Blake, the thing that I want and, you know, in the interest of keeping the segment not too lengthy is what people need to understand. When I wrote this book on humans last year and we talked about this, people say, why does it matter? It matters because when every revolutionary movement comes forward, they always target one particular class. It was the kulaks in Russia, in China, it was the petty bourgeoisie, or if you had, you know, you're a landowner. So basically, you know, people today, if you had any, like a second house or something, and by the way, go look at what the left says about landlords. If you want to see if that's actually changed

on the far left and not newsflash, it hasn't, they want to kill all of them. And now, and, you know, and so in revolutionary France, it was one of these in Spain, it was one of these, it was the religious, anyone who was, who was Catholic and he was associated with the clergy, the church. You also saw that in France. And Blake, you and I did some incredible interviews on this that turned into this book, actually. And so the point is, boys and girls, is they want to bring that here. Critical race theory was first implemented in a country, I think on a national scale, in South Africa in their constitution of 1996. And you have all of these articles pertaining to a disparate impact. And you mentioned apartheid. They call it, you know, the inequalities of the past. So this idea of inequalities of the past is so racism of the

past is why we need racism now. And it can only be solved by racism now is sort of the way they put it and so the disparate impact has to be well if if this many people can in and they had this in zimbabwe right because zimbabwe a similar situation formerly rhodesia where three percent of the population which was white owned 51 of the land and so they wanted to flip that around where 90%, 97% of the population, which is black, would own that 51%, or correction, 97% of the land. Now, obviously, that's not how any of our laws work. That's not how contracts work. That's not how any of this works. And we've seen the results again and again. And if anyone disagrees, well, they just kill you. Guess what? That's exactly what they want here in the United States. They use these African post-colonial nations as Marxist breeding grounds.

They've certainly used this. And you can go back to the ZANU, and we talk about that in the book and so many other examples of where the KGB and the Chinese Communist Party were standing up these revolutionary movements in South Africa and in the independence movement at the time. And so then the idea is that this cultural Marxism gets spread out and you have leftists here in the United States like this Elias Rodriguez and so many others who start supporting it and saying, we're going to take matters into our own hands because we want these ideas to be spread to their fullest fruition. And when they're spread to their fullest fruition, what does that mean? White Christian males are not allowed to own land and they are allowed to be the approved targets.

And if you're affluent and say, oh, I don't know, a healthcare CEO, well, then along comes Luigi Maggioni. If you're a billionaire who's running for president again, now along comes Thomas Matthew Crooks. And we're seeing it more and more again. These street assassinations are going to continue. And Blake, here's what I love about this. When it comes down to the idea, when we tell them, when we say, okay, you're clearly targeting white people, you're systemically targeting white people, you've done so with your policies, you're doing so with your street assassins. And when I say this, they'll call me an extremist, they'll call me far right, they'll call me a conspiracy theorist. But never once, Blake, will they call me wrong. Exactly. Yeah, it's truly deranged. You know, you mentioned like the kulaks in Russia. I think another good one is, you know, Maoists.

The Maoists during the Cultural Revolution, they had them. They were called the five black categories. That's what they called it in Chinese. And the five black categories, black meaning bad, wicked those categories, obviously landlord is a pretty broad one. Right wing are a pretty broad one. You were just sort of presumptively guilty of all of these evils. And if you're on the modern left, like what it really is, is kind of being a white person makes you a black category in a country like South Africa or frankly, in a country like the United States. I wanted to flag another thing. This was posted by the DSA Liberation Caucus. So the Democrat Socialists of America, far left organization,

a few members of Congress have described themselves as democratic socialists. I don't think they're members of this party, but it's this milieu of people who are on the far left. And so the DSA Liberation Caucus, which is a subgroup of it, they released a statement on Wednesday saying that Elias Rodriguez, embassy shooter, is a political prisoner. They say the Palestinian struggle is the tip of the spear against global imperialism. Whether in the besieged Gaza Strip, red sea the south of lebanon or the heart of the u.s there must be consequences for genocidal zionist imperialism and so yeah is that anti-semitic to some extent but they're really just saying like you are bad because you are a european and

in places we don't want you and what you'll discover is the places they don't want you are a European and in places we don't want you. And what you'll discover is the places they don't want you are eventually everywhere. It is an inherently like, it's an ideology that seeks to dispossess people, to delegitimize people, to destroy people. And there's a disturbing number of people at the New York Times in the media who are perfectly happy to egg this along, to justify it, to give credence to these insane justifications where, you know, they'll say, oh, kill the boar.

It's just a it's just a protest song. It's a it's an anthem of like historical resistance. And you just really want to look up that's what's so amazing because when they when they're chanting and i i post this and i post the size of some of these protests because people don't realize this or these rallies that are going on and they'll say they you know they can't realize how big it is it's enormous thousands and thousands because trump rallies some even bigger than trump rallies and the people people coming in. But again, when it's kill the Boer, kill the white farmer, we're told this must be put in context. This must be understood through nuance. And they say, OK, well, you're targeting white people. Oh, my gosh.

Is that a dog whistle? Is that a dog whistle, Posobiec? Are you dog whistling against it? What do you mean? I'm just saying that I think it seems like you guys want to genocide all the whites. And oh, my gosh, look at this fascist, this neo-Nazi extremist. Wait a minute. I'm just I'm just describing the things that he's saying on stage. And so you kind of get into a ration parallax. You know, it's not true. And it's good that it's happening. Now, keep in mind, like I think about eight years ago or so like, Ole Miss told people to stop playing Dixie at football games because, like, that was a dog whistle because it's just it's a song about the South that is from before the Civil War. And that's really it. That's all it is.

And like, that was bad. Like, that was a racist song. But, yeah, like, Kill the Bo boar that is uh that's a nuanced historical thing i love to do this i think i've done this before but you can read the lyrics just look up the lyrics to kill the boar on wikipedia they're still there for now uh these are the lyrics to kill the boar in english not leaving anything out the cowards are scared shoot shoot shoot shoot the cowards are scared shoot shoot shoot shoot shoot the boar shoot shoot shoot shoot the cowards are scared shoot shoot shoot shoot shoot the boar shoot shoot shoot the boar shoot shoot shoot the boar shoot shoot shoot the boar shoot shoot

wow wow so many nuances meaning so much so much nuance cowards are scared i wish we i wish we could go on. I wish we could go on for more of this, but I got to jet to my next thing here, man. Victor Orban's calling me from the next room. All right. You have a good time there, Jack. Support the Turning Point world overseas. Always supporting the Turning Point world.

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