The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 95 — Female Umps? Liberal Charlie Kirk? To Weed or Not to Weed?

Episode Date: August 16, 2025

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Hey, everybody, tan, thought, crime. We talk a little bit of Trump, Russia, and Alaska. We talk about South Park, and we talk about should men be cheerleaders and should women be umpires. Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Get involved with the most important organization in America at tpUSA.com. That is tpUSA.com. Buckle up, everybody here. We go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank, Charlie, he's an incredible guy, his spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job, building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, turning point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Okay, everybody, it is Thought Crime Thursday. We have a really fun lineup of topics for you. We have Tyler. We have Blake. We have Jack. First, Jack, I know we have what could be called. You have a good term for it. It could be the Anchorage Accords, Jack. I know that they're trying to downplay some expectations here. But just before we even get into the South Park episode, Jack, I want you're just some news of the day because this could be listened to at any time. But set the table for the stakes of Alaska and then we'll get into South Park stuff.

Well, it's huge. I mean, look, you got the first time that President Trump and Vladimir Putin have ever met together on U.S. soil. This will be the first time that a Russian leader has ever visited Alaska at all, which of course, given the history, Alaska used to be part of the Russian Empire. It was discovered by Russian explorers back in the 1700s. But the stakes couldn't be higher because this is a meeting of the two most powerful men in the world. the world's two largest nuclear powers. There's a huge war that's been raging basically since Joe Biden took office. And President Trump made it one of his key points, key policy points in 2024 to work to end that war from day one. And he's been working to end that war from day one.

So I don't think anyone else could have done this other than President Trump. He's got an incredible team that's going up there with him. And the Anchorage Accords, look, the stakes couldn't be higher in terms of what this could mean for world peace, what it could mean for the United States, and what it could mean for all of us going forward. And I also think, you know, just looking at it, it's interesting the way that President Trump's strategy and Secretary Rubio has talked about this a little bit as well. If you look at Bricks, it's all about Bricks, as far as I'm concerned. He's systematically gone through the list. Like you got the B, you got the I, you got the S, So Brazil, India, South Africa, and then Russia, because the very last one on that list is who, China.

This is all about getting to China. So he's working his way through the various BRICS nations and the very last one will be China. That is actually the biggest piece of the table right now, even beyond the Ukraine War. Do you have a thought on this, Tyler? Well, I was just going to say I'm really offended that no one from the Trump administration invited any of Jack's extended family or myself as the only Russian speakers. as the in-blocketers. I'm the only American-Russian speaker within the orbit, and I'm not there, and I'm upset about it.

So we're going to be covering this. You're like, you're like the only one who like can speak Russian, who's not, we're like going to like look up and it's like, oh, Tyler's literally the Ukrainian military at some point. Remember the point where like in the Ukraine war started and it's like, and our ambassador like was previously with like the Ukraine? I just think I could go and be useful and just like, you know, like talk, yeah, talk shop with like the outsider.

guys yeah put in this thing so well it's interesting so I don't know how much of this stuff is public what am I allowed to say um jack we can let me ask jack the question jack how many people are the russians bringing uh they've got a full delegation in terms of a couple of flights I know that remember what's public and not but once it's all I know for a fact that um I know I know for a fact that Russian diplomats from the from Washington have been heading up to Anchorage all week And, of course, we've seen a few flights now coming across from the U.S. to, you know, from, excuse me, from Moscow to Anchorage already this week. So, you know, what we're, but and then, of course, he's bringing a lot of the top Kremlin leaders. He's going to be bringing Sergei Lavrov. He's going to be bringing his special envoy as well as a couple of other top leaders. Interestingly enough, though, I believe that the Russian Minister of Defense, as well as the Secretary of Defense in the U.S. side, Pete Hagseth, are. both not coming to the meeting. And that obviously is a huge piece of sort of signaling that this is a peace summit rather than a, you know, a war summit or rather than go to war with each other.

Both sides really sending a huge signal with that. So there'll be, there'll be a lot of fun stories afterwards. But, you know, it's just let's just let's just let. I really have enjoyed the freak out where they're like, like the implication of us just meeting them in. I think it's wonderful. They're like, is he going to return Alaska to Russia? Only if they can keep Lisa Murkowski. That's what I'll say. She did vote for the big beautiful bill. He would say something like that. I will say, though, that from what I'm hearing,

I'm hearing some reports on the Russian side that there's a lot of, there's a lot of cynicism in Moscow. Like, they're bringing a massive security detail because there's a lot of people who actually are worried that in Moscow, again, this is if you go read like what people are saying on Russian social media, that people are worried that, you know, Trump will betray Putin and, you know, launch an attack on Russia while Putin's in the United States. I'm telling you, like, the whole thing is, is wild in terms of what they're saying.

So I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians come in with a really, really big footprint. Yeah, it's going to be fun. I'm going to say is just watching on TV, it's going to be quite the spectacle. I mean, it's going to be great. So, and we're going to be, so the whole show tomorrow we're going to talk about on the Charlie Kirk show we're going to go through the stakes the land NATO membership and I just I cannot compliment the president enough on this and Blake I know you would agree especially on this just meeting is like an act of courage like there's people mad that he's sitting down and talking to Putin it's it's so deranged to me it is it is head of state and frankly it seems like that's where he's usually been at his best that there's been some noticing of

this where like the leaders who bother to talk to Trump end up having good relationships with him and it often transcends politics. The funniest one to me was he was buds with Amlo during his first term, the left-wing Mexican president, but they talked to each other and like Amlo had thought he kind of had his election stolen the first time he ran for president in like 2008 in Mexico. So he was really understanding, you know, Trump was like, everyone's out to get me, you know, those deep state people. He's like, oh yeah, Trump, they're very terrible. And like, so they like made their remain in Mexico deal. He had a great relationship with the president of Mexico. That's why the border got so good towards the.

end of his first term. And that's a left-wing guy. And then similarly, trade deals, like we're having a lot of this, you know, trade friction. A good example is he's kind of been being pretty combative with Narendra Modi in India right now, who's also a conservative. But then Kier Starrmer, who we otherwise have basically no reason to like Kier Starrmer, but Starrmer bit the bullet and he's like, I'm going to call Trump and we're just going to like be buds. And now they have a trade deal. The whole thing's wild. All right. So we're all eyes on this. Credit, credit, credit to President Trump for meeting. And by the way, the optics of it are just going to be amazing.

It's on a U.S. Air Force base in Alaska. Alaska used to be Russians. So I would speculate that Trump's like, oh, we got, you know, what part of your land kind of like, you know, we want to talk about land. This land was your land. Now it's our land. And like you want Zelensky's like, you know what I mean, Jack?

Like there's a little bit of like, oh, you want to talk about the land thing. He's going to totally try to bridge this. Well, and also there is like a deep, there is a faction of Russian policy. Celtics, it's like, you should have never given up Russia, Alaska, right? I shouldn't have. It was a very good deal for us. It was an amazing deal.

It was so good for us. Yeah. There's actually a really cool, just historical fact that I saw, and I was reading what the Russian side was announcing about the trip to try to get a sense of, because they were putting some stuff out before because they're ahead of U.S. time this morning. And they mentioned, someone from one of the Kremlin spokesmen was saying that there's actually a site on, or at least near the base, with the, they're going to be meeting. One of the cemeteries actually has Russian soldiers that were pilots

that are buried in a U.S. Air Force base right there, they're a guest army installation on Elmendorf. And the question is, well, why would, you know, why would Russian soldiers be buried in Alaska? Well, during World War II, these were actually pilots that when the U.S. was running the Len Lees program, and so when we were sending tanks and planes, et cetera, and equipment to the Russian army, to the Red Army in the U.S.S. that one of the routes was to fly them from Alaska to Siberia. So the Russians would take a plane, fill it full of pilots, fly that to Alaska, then have the Alaskan pilots or have the pilots in Alaska go into the American fighters and bombers, et cetera, and then fly them across the Bering Strait over to Siberia.

But just given the situation, given the weather, there were a number of people who died. So it wouldn't surprise me if, you know, perhaps there's some ceremonial, you know, visit to the site and it's it's really this area where you don't see too many of it where it's this this linkage of the u.s and russia from this this world war two operation have you guys ever been to i've been to sitka why would you go to sitka it's a historically russian island town in alaska they have some if the craziest one all the places to go you get to they have the craziest church there it's like i've been a frito bay up in the north there's a town in Alaska.

There's a town in Alaska that's Russian old believers and they moved back there. Really? Yeah. I've heard about this. Yeah, Blake, I've heard about this. So old believer, long story, but there was like the Russian Orthodox Church and then they reformed it. And some people were like, that's not cool.

That's lame. And they've been this like dissident religious group in Russia and around the world. And I don't even think they've always been in Alaska. I think they lived in America. And then they're like, we should make our own old believers town. So they just moved to Alaska and bought land. And because you get free, you get all the free of lumber too. Yeah.

So you can literally build anything you want in Alaska if you move there. You know, it really is kind of the case. Like if you're, if you're complaining that you lack community, you don't really lack community. You just lack will because you could move to Alaska. And lumber. I think Alaska is one of the great treasures on the planet. It is unbelievable. It's so wild.

It's so, like it makes Colorado look like just like JV. It's so overwhelmingly wild. Jack, have you been there? Yeah. I've been to, I've been all over like the. southern part and i actually did a trip up to prudeau bay once got to uh got to put my hand in the arctic ocean that's a tough one to get but i've got to go that's a big one so so jack i think you would agree and tyler would agree there's like colorado montana wild yes where you like you know pull

you know you go to glacier you're like wow you know that's wild and then there's like alaska wild and you're like whoa and you take like 10 you go 10 steps off the highway yeah and all of a sudden it just meets your being and like there's the nothingness it's the nothingness it's the It's like a vast abyss of untouched. Vast is the only word I can use, right, Jack? It's like anti-similar. And it's not simple. It's the frontier that just comes.

That's the nickname of the state. The last frontier. It still is, I mean, it is so big. It's a frontier state, 100%. It is so wild. Now think of what Siberia is like. And the ocean is crazy. I know, exactly.

I mean, so kind of like the connective tissue here. Last thing about Alaska, by far the most plane accidents and crashes. Got to fly everywhere. I think it's the highest. highest private plane ownership per capita is Alaska. Hold on. Hold on. Their private planes are like pontoon boats. Yeah. Okay. Yes. These things are

a joke. They look like, they look like park them out in their yard sometimes. I mean, these things are a single prop, like not exactly what we would call it would be so unsafe. You would look at it. I mean, I think they have like 400 a year or something? It's insane. Happens all the time. It's everybody

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and apparently in terms of ratings it was the most viewed south park episode since 2018 now i think we probably have to give that a lot of the credit of course to just the wider context they could have had huge views if they made fun of biden and kamala i mean they decided not to be popular let's just be honest it's very funny to me because South Park they wouldn't really make fun of Bush much whenever one was and they didn't really do it for Obama or

they did a bit for Trump first and then yeah Biden as you said they've kind of generally avoided making fun of U.S. presidents and I thought their reasoning for a long time was good which was everyone talks about U.S. presidential stuff forever there's no new jokes to be made about it it'll usually it's like it's low effort

you often make yourself look dumb and they're sort of proving themselves right Because I thought the stuff with you was really good. I thought it was hilarious. It was legitimately hilarious. Yeah, the stuff with Trump has like not been as good. At least stuff I've seen. No, the Trump stuff's like whatever.

I mean, so Tyler, you made an interesting point that no one's made. So the whole kind of like master debater thing, they were also getting it something that like young men are spending more time watching politics than like going through porn hub. That was like a buried lead of that. This is producer Angelo actually. Producer Angela was a very smart point. It made this point, which is like how. cool is the undertone that they were basically that's a deep pull it was a hugely deep pole that young men were more interested in getting the charlie kirk award than the porn hub award now right

is that no is that an award well i mean you know what i mean like the hey the uh the debate of master divation yeah the but they they were they were very like leaning in on this which is just more young men i think this whole thing's hilarious young men are competing to be more conservative like and it's true like every single person I talked to I just had a contractor in my house the other day and he's like well what do you do and I explained what I did he's like oh my gosh my kids on ticot all day my 14 year olds on ticot all day long watching nothing but charlie it actually is really funny like and then yeah the competition every single person the most extreme guys so like you'll get guys online and they'll just be like well actually like so-and-so's a cuck because he doesn't want to like deport

the family members of everyone you know like they get like completely unhinged and that that's where young men are now and that's why we're winning the debate it's they're living there and they're they're taking this and there's every day we're seeing headlines who's going to be the left charlie kirk who's going to be the left charlie kirk and there's nobody and they basically like south park had to identify that and then the second piece is is that all of south park is dependent upon young men and what they care about this is what they care about it's great they do actually charlie did go ahead did you see um what scott adams had actually said about you the other day. It was very kind. I want to load the, I mean, if we want it. I mean, it doesn't have to all. I meant to I meant, yeah, I meant to mention it to you. I was very kind. I caught it. Yeah. I caught it. It was so nice. I mean, he just said, he said, look, the, the reason, I don't know if you guys have the clip or not, but he said the reason the left can't have a Charlie Kirk is because Charlie Kirk, all he does is, is say common sense. He states common sensical things.

And he looks at complex issues and puts them out given common sense. So the left can't do that because it's completely against their entire nature. And if you were going to have someone who did that, they would just be another Charlie Kirk. Yes. And he also was very complimentary of how we did our campus interactions. And it's really, really good. He loved it.

It was a Charlie Kirk love fest. He was loving on you, Charlie. He follows all of our stuff very closely. Scott is, how is his health, by the way, Jack? So he has a new regimen now that I hear. Scott and I share, you know, we're friends. And we have a, you know, a chair, Joshua Lysak co-author slash editor. And he's working on a new, a new treatment.

And I don't know quite all the details with it, but it basically heard that it was like a hormone blocker. And so, but like a really, really expensive brand new one. And he actually said it had something to do with blocking his testosterone. And if I remember correctly. And for some reason, that took away like all of his pain. So, you know, talk about thought crimes. He had already scheduled, I think it was the end of June. He was going to do the doctor-assisted procedure at the end of June, and he was going to punch out.

But now he's still going strong, and he says he thinks he's got at least a couple of years left. And, you know, obviously looking for a larger solution to the issue to his pancreatic cancer. But same one that Joe Biden has, as a matter of fact. But pain-wise, he's doing okay, apparently. And so the Just go back to the ratings themselves The numbers were very good And so maybe we'll make another appearance

Maybe we won't And by the way Do we have like the contemplation The other subtext is Which I should have loved Is how mad liberal TikTok Is that I'm not mad about it Yeah

That has been hilarious There's even been like meta-analysis There like some people responded Like trying to signal That they could take a joke And like oh like we have to war game this I don't It was actually

the whole thing's hilarious. I've watched some of those clips like three or four times. It's funny. It's like well written. It's smart. It's hilarious. Every single one of them was like, they're making fun of you, bro. Don't you know it? The joke is about you. You're not in on the joke. Laugh! Laugh!

No, it's so fun. Why are you laughing? Well, that's the funny part too. It's like you look at this, you watch the whole thing. It's like, there's no part of this that was actually like hardcore making fun of you, even like they weren't going at you that hard they it was a like a level of respect that if you get that from south park that's like the top tier respect that it's awesome it's wild it's crazy it's good stuff um so then they they they the hasan piker who i'm actually going to be debating at

dartmouth coming up uh in about a month round two so i'm i'm gonna i'm gonna save all of my commentator and hasan piker for that specific moment but he didn't interview a gq oh yeah yeah just I was saying just because of the whole They're talking so much they need No, hold on Did he really do the bed picture? It appears so, yes. Oh my gosh.

I will, you guys have to do all the commentary for me here. I'm going to say nothing. Yeah, so I was, I just found this just because we were talking about, you know, they're saying, oh, they need their left wing, Charlie Kirk and like, who would it be? And so yeah, and then just by happenstance yesterday. Do we have the photo of this? Do we have the photo of, uh, let's, let's get this up so people can see it.

Yes, there we do. So they did a profile of Hassan Piker, who says America might be cooked. We agree with him on that one. We might be cooked. We're hoping for the best, though. We think we have the guy in charge who can help this. But he's going to try to turn the tide by wearing a palace, what looks like a Palestine soccer jersey while on some sort of bed somewhere. Or is that a couch?

They also have this bathtub one. Really? Are you seeing this from this? This is his profile picture now. How is this not made its way on Twitter yet? I can't. I'm staying out of this one. I haven't seen this at all, but he posted himself in a bathtub with bubbles.

It's a GQ and Hassan Piker shared this. I thought GQ was trying to be more conservative lately. I thought after, but it is similar to the, have you seen the GQ Travis Kelsey photo shoot? Because it's very similar to this. I just sent it in the chat that, you know, it's this sort of like we're liberal, but we're masculine, but we're also like, it's like an aggressive. form of hyper masculinity that you usually see in like like marvel movies or something yeah there's the Travis Kelsey like he's he's a working man he's he's blue collar and it's just like aggressively over masculine and it's and it's just I'm sorry like it's just it just comes across as really gay

and that you know go go back to one with the boots with Travis Kelsey I mean he's he's on top of like a shipping container he looks like a boss in like a the 2000s Konami video game. This is gay and questionable. GQ was supposed to get more conservative after Trump got elected. I thought they had turned a new leaf. This is like the Tim Walz thing

where it's like, where it's kind of like, remember the Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs? And he's like, he's like thinks he can become a woman by, you know, like wrapping himself in this literal skin suit of women. I mean, that's basically what this is. Your skin suiting masculinity, your skin suing masculinity, your skin suiting, the working class.

I mean, this is just, it's like, he's got like a frayed pea coat, but it's like fake frayed. I don't know, man. This is one of the weirdest things I've ever seen. Also, are those like riding boots? Hassan Piker's feet is him in a bathtub, and then him and Rashida Taleb

and him promoting Democratic Socialists of America their convention for 2025. And this is their answer for Turning Point, Charlie Kirk. Like, this is, I feel like they, they're doing our work for us. And when they talk about this, they always make the mistake of thinking like, Charlie's just a guy with a podcast or just does tables on universities. And like, they're really missing the point.

Like the full spectrum Charlie Kirk experience is like he's doing the table. And then he's like also off to do like his entire get out the vote effort. And then he's also off to like, oh, we have to found all of our chapters and all the campuses. And raise the money. Now I'm going to go speak at this church and that church. And now I'm going to appear. And like, it's just like the relentless stuff. He has more pictures

He's not posting any photos I have never seen a photo of Charlie Kirk in a bathtub That will be the day We we all Call on 6th That'll be yeah Wait but Charlie would you do

You do your cold plunges So would you ever do a cold plunge? That's different than Hassan Piker in a bubble bath Okay like I know it's different But I'm just What if we did a bubble bath Cold plunge?

I don't know if would it would Charlie are there bubbles in your cold plunge There's no bubbles in the pool of Do you bring your rubber ducky? No, apparently he does, apparently. No, he's, all his posts are just like, Is that a scented candle? Is that a pumpkin spice?

Everything he does is commie and femme. I like this. We have to read this quote. We have to read this quote because it's amazing. This is from the GQ article about the man who's going to be the left wing Charlie Kirk. As Piker burns through his 70 minute workout, exhausting himself in the process, he strips his shirt. An army of girls and gays, not to mention admiring looksmaxers, would kill to be where I am now, next to Piker, as he pants in a pair of neon shorts with black Calvin Klein boxers poking out and sunlight glinting off the sweat beaded on his chest stairs.

Goodness. This author, who wrote this article? But this goes back to the point of everybody's looking for answers. and the people that they're picking for answers are the reason why we exist. The reason why Charlie Kirk exists is because Hassan Piker, this isn't new.

There's been gay, commy stuff out there forever. That's what literally spawned turning point. That's what gave credence to all this stuff is because nobody, no dude wants this ever. And so they're just pushing, they're actually helping us. They're just making it even deeper than it is. it's great

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and Todd.com. Do you want to talk about weed? Yes. All right. Weed. The demon weed. I think we all agree on this. I think we do, but we should still talk about it anyway. So for context, for those who didn't see Charlie's show earlier today, there's discussion

within the Trump administration, because there's some divisions within the conservative movement on should we loosen the legal restrictions on weed. Right now, marijuana is a Schedule 3 drug. I believe that's the most severe category. Or one of the most severe where it's like basically almost no or no medically valid

usage. It's other ones that are scheduled three are heroin, LSD, stuff like that. Generally carries the most punitive federal oversight and penalties. And there's discussion in moving it to Schedule 1, which is there's some risk of addiction and harm, but it's you know less bad overall and so they would move it from schedule three to schedule one and

trump has said he said at a press conference that they're looking at they'll probably decide next week but they haven't finalized the decision yet and so we've been weighing in ourselves do we think it would be a good idea uh it's a terrible idea we said that today we disagree with it and uh it's funny we did our show live in real america's voice the emails were super positive and then you put their youtube the comments are super negative this is like boomer redemption arc. I think I have to give boomers a ton of credit. Their greatest take is their anti-weed stance. I'm sorry. We just got to call shots out of this. Demon weed. We're very unfair to the booms a lot. Not unfair, but I just like, you know, a little critical sometimes. I'm sorry, Gen Z's totally

wrong on this. They have no idea what they're engaging into, I think. And I did a ton of talking, so I want you guys to talk on this. We did a whole episode on it today. It's being very well, It's being well received by the older audience, loves it, and the younger audience is like, I'm super productive. And then it's very funny. This is my favorite thing. I'm super productive because I smoke weed.

I scroll down there other tweets. I can't afford a home and I can't afford my. Oh, okay. So, which is it exactly? Yeah. So wait, like weed is, I'm so amazing. I get so much done thanks to weed and I can't afford my groceries. It really does.

I feel like weed is like the first step on the path of like someone who's like, I am a better person and so I can do drugs with no ill effects. And I'll be frank. I think there probably are some people who have like done drugs and have not had super bad things happen to them. But one, you don't necessarily know for sure. Like I think a lot of the damages on the margins. We looked at the numbers.

If you take a bunch of marijuana when you're a teenager, it'll probably lower your IQ by two points. that's not always super noticeable on an individual to individual basis but that matters a lot on a country level like if your country has an average of like 102 versus 100 that's like $10,000

and what your country's average incomes are if you look at it you know because that stuff they measure that stuff by country and it's just I really do think it's worth asking ourselves like do we want to be a country where a bunch of people where it's like normal to take tons of drugs and a bunch of people are on them

and you can like frame it from this libertarian perspective of like should people just be allowed to harm their bodies if they want but at the same time like has there ever been a great country where a ton of people are on a ton of different types of dope i don't really think so no i i did a huge summary on it i'll try to do my best to summarize it number one we talk about the enormous amount of data that it's way worse for young people than we ever imagined lowering IQ points making people um less likely to show up on work on time I mean, the data is just overwhelming. I have some of it here that I can, I can reread.

And I think all of us know people who they got into weed, and they just became a weed person. I actually have a theory. It eats their, it eats their person. You know what? This reminds me so much in some ways of, like, the trans debate. It was like, we know it's wrong. And everyone says, no, no, it's fine.

Like, we need more studies. And, like, we could just see it's bad for people. We could, like, we don't need a blue ribbon commission to tell us that, like, gender mutilation is wrong. And again, I'm not compared, like, of course, some people, I guess, can be fine and functioning, but the people who say, like the cope, oh, I'm super functioning on weed all the time. And they get, they get so angry at the prospect of losing it and their sensitivity towards it. Anyway, Tyler, I think there's actually a hugely that we have millennials who are actually

converting over to be anti-weed, who are big pro-wheat. And there's, again, Jack's about my age. A bunch of us are about the same age. I don't know if you've seen this, Jack, but a lot of friends that I've had acquaintances I know that we're really into weed in high school and early college age now have completely just gotten rid of it got it out of their lives and part of it is the cost that you brought up it's it's on average I look it up it's it's 300 400 bucks a month that people are spending I mean we're talking to like high in car payments five thousand bucks a year yeah high in car payments that people are spending on weed per month and then you double that with alcohol so people are spending as much on alcohol and weed as you would on

on a mortgage or rent payment. And that's a pretty common thing. That happens a lot with a lot of people. So I think as people age and get older, they're starting to realize, oh my gosh, this has been not good for my life. This hasn't made me more productive. They've realized they're not as productive.

They're spending money that they really shouldn't be spending and they don't have. And now they're growing up. And I try to, and I want Jacks to get into this, but I try to synthesize these things down to a series of questions. We do the same thing for crime or whatever. Will this make,

make America a stronger and better country 50 years from now. Increasing drug use. So there are four major lies when it comes to this. I did this on the show. We were told it was going to bring down crime. It hasn't done that. Number two, we were told that kid usage rates are going to go on. You call this the worst of the lies, right?

Yeah, yeah. We were say, hey, if you legalize it, less kids will do it because it will be harder to access. The opposite has happened. Weed usage amongst kids. And people say, oh, it's not using weed. It's spoken. No, you don't understand it. And like when I say people, it's not just smoking, there's edibles, there's cookies, there's gummy bears, there's brownies. There's a lot more ways. Which are marketed to kids, by the way.

And this is the best argument that Blake made today. And I want Blake to take it in a second. But is it going to make America better? That is the most operative question. Because people, we have been lied to by the libertarians to be so narcissistic in our politics. Well, I want it. So therefore it must be good. Okay, got it. Great. You're super responsible. That's actually not the question that we're dealing with right now. The question that we're dealing with is a societal one, a quality of life one. When you walk the streets, do you want to smell it? Do you want your kids to be raised in that way?

Will it make us more aspirational? What make us work harder? It will make us grittier. Will it make us more ethical? We'll make us more virtuous. Will it make our street safer. Blake, true or false, there are more DUIs now for weed consumption than for alcohol. I don't know in terms of arrests, but they looked at the CDC.

What they did is they looked at people. Because the CDC said it's tough to easily track this across states and everything, but they just looked at people who ended up in the hospital from like severe accidents in seven different trauma centers. And a higher percentage of them had marijuana in their systems than had alcohol in their systems when they tested these people who've been in accidents. No question. And then also we were told the cartels would be weaker. The cartels are richer and more powerful since we've done legalization. And again, some people say, well, what about reclassification? All reclassification would do would be yet another win. for a lying marijuana industry that does not benefit the well-being of the United States of America, period. Now, again, if you want to get it for some medical card, okay, I guess, I'm sure there's some veteran that's been a good.

Even that's always bothered me. I know, I just, I don't, I don't think that's the hill I want to die on. It's not the hell you want to die on, but it was, it was so, from the beginning, it was so nakedly intended to just be their beachhead for full legalization. because there's always been ways that they could like provide the like painkiller benefits in like a much more muted low amount of marijuana way

but people just want to smoke weed and again I just I worry that it's and then the other argument that I don't like which is then that this is how you know you're winning the argument but Charlie it's going to be politically bad for us wait so doing nothing is politically bad for us

I'm sorry wait what you could just do nothing so that that's it's not a matter of an action. But who cares if it's politically? It's the more, it's not the right thing to do. Jack, are you with us on this? And I think, I don't think the vast majority of Americans are. However, I want to just give everyone some hope. Florida defeated the ballot measure that would have legalized marijuana. Now, again, boomers, boomers strike back, baby. It's because Florida has a bunch of Midwestern boomers that don't like marijuana. So God bless the boomers. It's, it's the best thing that

that they've done politically recently. Jack. Yeah, Charlie, a million percent. And you're right that this is one of those issues where it's like when you call somebody on the phone, they're almost like because the weed lobby, I call them Big Leaf, because Big Leaf is so aggressive and people like run up at you and yell at you in public or I tweeted about this the other day. And it just went, you know, avalanche of virality. you retweeted that which i think led to it of course and you know so many people responding very

angry i mean almost like like theologically upset at what i had said and that just said please no because it's like we're in dc and it's disgusting uh they don't enforce these laws there's weed smoke everywhere the stench is all over the place in public i can't take my kids anywhere without smelling it and it it sticks to you it permeates every thing and it it makes our cities dirty and it makes our cities nasty and i'm sorry but it's it is different and by the people know that and by like people always say like what about alcohol jack like yeah okay i i everybody knows like i say it all the time alcohol is poison i don't drink um i know what the laws are but i've never once advocated for drinking and so it's like you want to do

that but the difference with drinking other than drinking and driving if you're drinking your own home, then other people aren't going to be affected by that. But when you're smoking weed, it just permeates every single space you're in. And people are like, you can't even tell. Like, dude, we can all tell, bro. We can all tell. We can all smell it. You could smell it from a block away. And it makes our cities absolutely disgusting. And the blue city cops, or at least, you know, I'm not going to put it in the cops, but the blue cities will not enforce this. They don't enforce any of the laws. So anytime when big leaf comes up and says, oh, we're going to do this, we're going to do that. No, it's never going to be enforced. And here's the big thing.

I don't know if you guys covered this earlier today. I've been running around, but it's the descheduling or rescheduling, whatever you want to call it, that's coming down. This is a massive tax break for the for big leaf. So it allows these cannabis corporations to be able to take billions upon billions of dollars of deductions from the IRS that they currently can't take because federal law and a lot of state laws are kind of mismatched here. So what they're wanting to do is to be able to take massive deductions, which is going to increase the sales of weed in the country. It's going to increase the dispensaries. It's going to be all over the place for kids. They're going to be coming in contact with it everywhere. We're already seeing it being marketed towards children.

And I couldn't be more against it. Just totally against it. Yeah. And I just as a parent, I could tell you, Tyler, it's not made the Phoenix metro area better. It hasn't made the Valley better. It just period. No, Phoenix is a great test case, right? And it hasn't made us stronger, healthier, happier. And these weed dispensaries, I want you to try them in. They're kind of like slums that you could, you could, it's very interesting. There's one near where I live. When you kind of pull up, the people that are going in there are not people you would want to marry your daughter. No. They're not people that this it brings down the quality of life in the neighborhood it's these are not people that oh let's go to church and go get an edible on the way no it is it is people that should be challenged

to become better but we're allowing them to go uh more shallower Tyler I want to go first than Phoenix well there's a reason and that actually blends right into the commentary that there's a culture around potheads right yeah when you can think it whenever you can think of a person that comes out of an activity, then there's a culture that's around it. And if it's a positive culture that you're like, wow, I want to be like that person, then that's a good thing. If it's a negative culture, then it's like, oh, that's probably a bad thing. It's like the simplest way to put it.

The problem with weed to me that has always existed and since it got kind of peak popularity from the time I was in high school to now where it's been, now it's kind of losing popularity and we're seeing trends that people are actually shunning it, even though consumption is probably at its highest ever because it's legalized. You have people who it's kind of like alcoholism. When you think of an alcoholic is similar in bad negative culture that comes to a pothead. The problem is that almost everybody that ingests weed that actually subscribes or smokes or consumes weed is more likely to become part of that pothead culture than a person who drinks that becomes alcohol. That's just my opinion. I don't think...

Yeah, and Matt Walsh made an argument, which is a good one. It's not... I wouldn't say it's great, but it's good. That generally alcohol, I guess, could be used as like a social lubricant, have a drink, relaxes you. It's... There's a more social component to alcohol. I think that's how culturally got introduced to the American populace out of prohibition. Yeah, I mean, I actually think one of the... I have like a bunch of books I want to write through my career and Blake, you can help me with this one after our next project, wait to be the next one, is honestly, Prohibition was way more successful

than people realized, I'm sorry. People used to drink like, like, three gallons of like grain alcohol in here, basically. Serosis, which was vital, cirrhosis is where your liver dies. Yeah, but that was super common before prohibition. And like, you had, like, every social problem we get from drugs was coming from

just alcohol in terms of domestic violence, abandonment, you know, vagrancy. And alcohol use has never gone up to where it was before the prohibition. Yes, it was. It was, it worked. But, you know, there was a good point. I think Ross Douth at the New York Times made this like a decade ago where he pointed out. He pointed out that, you know, maybe even if you just say alcohol is poison and it's totally bad, well, it has a long history and civilization. We're probably not going to root it out. Fremented drinks are there forever. It's used. It's used in religious rituals, including in the West and all of that. You're not going to take it out. So maybe you just have to concede. You know what? Maybe it's even worse than marijuana, but we shouldn't stack a bunch of vices on top of it. That thing with impaired driving, a thing that's become really common in a huge number of crashes

is they're drunk and they're high on weed. And every vice in America is stacking at the bottom. So you have people who, if you're an alcoholic, you're also more likely to do weed and you're also more likely to abuse all these other drugs.

You're more likely to do opioids and heroin. You're more likely to be addicted to gambling. Every single one of these vices stacks and it's just nuking the people at the bottom. Yeah, and Angel makes a good point. I think the tightest turning with Gen Z leading this religious revival, I think it's just becoming less and less cool to be a degenerate. Yep.

And if you, again, I don't think you're a bad person. It's not an indictment of your character, but I will say, Jack, what, Jack, can you expand on this? Some people can't tolerate weed usage. The vast majority people can't, but they think they can't. That's the key is that they think they're all fine. Like, oh, I could keep myself. No, we can tell.

That's why you're flatlining. Yeah. Like, just, it's not good for you. stop doing it, Jack. Yeah, no, and Charlie, I'm sure you, you've had your share of experiences of meeting people. You mean, like California people, I call them, right, or like West Coast people. And they'll say, hey, man, oh, I'm a founder or I'm this, I'm that, you know, and they're in Silicon Valley or wherever they are. And they say, well, I, you know, I smoke up every day and look how successful I am.

So clearly this must be, this must be okay. And it's like, maybe, right? Imagine what you would do without weed is my answer always, though. That's a good one. that's going. But what I'm saying is like you, it's to your point, right? You're if those type of people, it's also self-selecting, right? There's a self-selection bias there because you're already successful, but how many people are also doing this and are not successful and are reaping or, you know, the bad benefits of, you know, the detriments of having used it. And so it's like it's one of those

things where as a society, look, we should have a very strong public policy regarding these things. And it's to your point, Charlie, you know, people want to make these arguments. Well, it's great for me. So I think it should be fine. And it's like, that's cool. But public policy is for everybody. And you got to look at people up and down the ladder, too. That's what MAGA is supposed to be all about, actually looking at the homeland, figuring out what's good.

And by the way, our cities should be incredible. We're trying to clean up the cities, right? That's the whole point of what President Trump's doing with the, you know, with the law enforcement, federalizing D.C. So cleaning up the cities and go, and by the way, going after drug dealers is something that President Trump talked about for a long, long time. during the campaign, I don't really see how making drugs more accessible cleans up our cities. Yeah. I just, again, we have the before and after. And the before and after, again, Phoenix is

resisting a little bit. But not really. I mean, there are parts of Phoenix that have gotten worse since the legalization of weed. Well, look at the homelessness. Look at the crime rates that have risen. Like, and I go, it's like, oh, it's a big jump to it. But this is all, it's all connected. It's interconnected when you look at this. And you go, when you make this stuff. accessible, productivity goes down. When productivity goes down, homelessness and those that are in the workforce goes up, working Americans goes down. Everything costs more because also, by the way, this is something that's like I've been reading and we say that. I mean, we have a ton of employees that are here. The rent has gone up dramatically. You know, one of the big number one things that

landlords are saying that that's happening is they can't get the smell of weed out of the walls. They are charging everybody up. So what that does automatically is rents get raised because of stuff like this. It's silly, stupid stuff like this that all of a sudden changes things. Smoking is at an all-time low. Now weed usage has actually gone up, the amount of weed that's actually being smoked. And it only happens in certain neighborhoods, in certain contexts. And it's with young people in depressed areas where, you know, landlords are high and crime is higher.

and homelessness peaks. And we're seeing all of this happen in places that people are going like, I don't even recognize the downtown portion of our moderate size or small town anymore because this is what's taken over. Yeah. And I just, again, the other part of it

is that when you legalize something and Blake, you can attest to it, it is a endorsement for usage. Yeah. And so that is the key. It is a, it is kind of a blessing. There are a lot of people who cannot really, in their head, divide, like, legality from morality. That's just how a lot of people... Every law has a moral root to it.

Every law has a moral point. Look, Blake, that's an IQ test. Yeah. That's an IQ test because for a lot of people, legality is morality. So the idea that, okay, like, you understand the difference. It's like saying we're all created equal versus we're all equal in the declaration. All right. Most, like, you should say most people, you would hope that most people can understand that.

but a ton of people don't and so to a ton of people they're going to say that legality is morality if it's legal means it's good and you can't say anything about it so if you're a mom or dad out there and your kid comes up to you and says hey i've got all these edibles and i've got all these gummies and i've got this and i've got that and this oil and that oil and i've got oh whatever in my geek bar that i'm going to be vaping later today and you say well i don't think you should do that then they're going to say well what are you going to do stop me because it's legal it's legal in the city of Phoenix. It's legal in the city of Washington. It's legal wherever, you know, wherever you might be that it's legal already, Colorado, et cetera. And mom and dad are going to lose that every time. And

over time, it's going to lead to more increased drug use. And that's exactly what the cannabis companies want. It's very simple. There's a very obvious corporate interest here. But one of the other pieces that I haven't, we haven't really touched on, but you go and look at some of these ice raids out in California, the cartels are heavily, heavily involved in the supply chain here. We were told that that legalization would get them out. No, it's been the exact opposite. The cartels are expanding operations now into legal wheat grows, and they're bringing illegal aliens in, including children, as Gavin Newsom found out.

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All right, so I want to do one final topic here, which is I want an answer to this. And maybe it's not as deep as I think, but as the country seems to be stripping away from D-E-I, CRT, and Woke, is um weirdly sports are moving in the opposite direction it and it makes it is woke dead or is woke just on vacation and it's happening in multiple different sectors so the first of which i don't know jack i jack because no because i've never loved the w nba more than i do right now well that's been so good these last couple weeks yeah i i know because sex toys are being thrown on the court But we'll get to that. So I'm watching a lot of money.

Yeah, I've been watching a fair amount of baseball this summer. The Cubs are good. Now they're on a losing streak. It's not great. Anyway, the whole point is this, is that MLB, I don't know what they're thinking. So the backbone of American sports are men, mostly conservative, center-right, Midwestern and Southern, very, like mostly conservative, It would be like, you know, 55, 60 percent, just normal guys.

They want to watch sports. They don't want to see progress in sports. And so there was a big fanfare about Major League Baseball having the first ever female empire. This made the front page of the Wall Street Journal. And you have to always ask yourself the question, why is this a good thing? Why does this matter? Why is this good? For what reason are we saying this is good?

Progress for what? Is it going to be better? Will it be more enjoyable? Well, so this woman became an umpire. And you could play it. It's cut 471. This was the first call of the game. Her name is Jen Powell.

Let's just watch Jen Powell. We hope you're ready. And here we go. Joey Witts likes that first call from Jim Powell. It's a bit inside. The pitcher's faces. Yeah, the best was the pitcher. He was like, okay.

For those who can't see. For those who can't see, the pitcher threw it inside for about a foot. And just so we are clear, she was ranked 13th to 15th on umpires on the entire day, graded terribly. And in her major league debut, she missed the first call. And she missed 14 calls and had only a correct call right of 90.3%. So... Which is baseball. You want a pretty high success rate on balls and strikes. Again, so did she earn it? Is she good? No, of course not. She's not there because she's good or she earned it. Everybody was saying on online that they're introducing her so that we will get to get computerized uh strike calling

oh is that right it's a forcing function if you want a thought crime there i am rigidly opposed to that i'm very much opposed to i'm very opposed to i'm for if half the half the ums are so i'm going to if you want the real thought crime it's like one woman um and it's not like this is a woman playing baseball like i feel like women probably can call balls and strikes in baseball like maybe men have better sight than average too but it's the point is that you need male only spaces there there should be no female umpires or referees period whatsoever okay and by way she's not even she's not even good do you know how close umpires have to be on the catcher uh i mean it's pretty close i'm just saying it would be very odd it's not about that it's just the fact that

Like some husky woman is right behind you breathing down your neck the entire time. They've spent their entire lives. Check the zoom in. I mean, come on, guys. I mean, this is. They spent their entire lives. What are we doing here? With a dude there.

And now a woman, it just, it throws your train of thought. As a catcher, I would be upset. I feel like a woman umpire in baseball is probably like the least intrusive, like, all right, Blake, then let's defend this one. Wait, wait, wait, the least intrusive referee. She's sitting right on top of the head. Hold on a second. Like,

let me challenge that. Which, if you are a manager of the twins and you want to go bark at an umpire, and you've got to go like face to face with the ump and you're like spinning like, oh, right,

that was a strike. What are you talking about? If that's a woman, are you more or less like to go do that? That's like an ancient baseball practice to get right up in the, you know I'm right, to bark in the face and all of a sudden it's a woman like, well, excuse me,

ma'am, I don't think that, no, like baseball is like gets raw, it's primal, it's real. Right? And they get a job.

No, you stupid son of the That guy was safe What are you talking about? You're not talking like It's thrown out of head It's almost battery Like you can't do that with a woman No you can't

It takes the whole culture of baseball Exactly It said it's like Instead it would be the headline It would be general You know it would be The Yankees manager Otherrises

Otherrises or Berets woman That baseball game The problem is you're picking the twins here And one Because you like the twins Yeah but I'm feeling down Well I'm very lucky That I'm only a twins fan

And not a Vikings fan because that's the other dimension that well no hold on it's not just the vikings it's the saints it's the saints and also the panthers they did it with the saints have a record amount of male dancers so hold on hold on like we need to get like they can't balance a salary we're not allowed to have a lot of dudes we're we're not allowed to have teams named like the redskins or the fighting sue or whatever or the whatever because like the tribes need to give their approval because it's like hurtful can we have like the vatican step in and be like no male dancers on on the saints

I suppose technically they probably shouldn't like female cheerleaders either. There would be no solidarity there. But so, Charlie, yes. You remember this as well as I do, that Rush Limbaugh used to always talk about this. He would call it the feminization of America. And he would talk about it again and again. And he saw it. He saw it happening through the 90s.

He saw it happening through the 2000s where. And so what you're talking about, this is masculine, right? Of course, it's in Philly, right? that there you go look at that that's the best I mean there is nothing more American that we're getting too feminized and all of a sudden you have a female umpire

are you going to see that this is male confrontation direct confrontation it's almost like that happens a lot that type of altercation is it's very intense it's like I will say look at the big I feel like she could probably fit in

in one of those screen no but honestly if you're a male going up you do not you should not yell at a woman that way Period. End of story. It's different. But if it's a man-on-man thing, by the way,

male-female differences matter. It does. And so, like, if that's a woman, all of a sudden you're like, okay, excuse me, ma'am,

I think it was a bad call there. And can you reconsider? And I know you're having a tough day. And thank you so much. Thank you. You know, he's like, do you to call you a new movie?

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but more importantly, they call each of their names, Charlie. Like, if you read their lips,

it's, it's profane stuff. It's good stuff. It's one of the ancient baseball. Also, in baseball, they you know, they do chewing tobacco and sunflower seeds and women are really grossed out by that stuff. You can't do it politely

around. The whole thing is women should not be referees. I don't care if they're blind judges. Women should not be umpires. Women should not be assistant coaches. Women should not exist in male sport. Like that should not happen. Period. End of story. It shouldn't male only spaces and female

only spaces matter. No different than women should not be on submarines. obvious reasons okay no it's true it's true and men but if you pull this every time every attendee at sports games it's like 95% will agree with you

with that this isn't even like controversial and by the way it's this so why are they doing this also why does ESPN feel the need to have color commentators that are women on football I'm sorry if it's sideline reporters that's fine okay XYZ's injured great if there is a woman that is color

commentating a game that she has obviously never played and she never could play. Stop it. That is not progress. No one I actively, and again, it's not about the individual woman. Whenever I'm watching like an SEC game and it's like a woman, you notice they always try to lower her voice. Oh, you know, what are you doing? Stop it. We don't need that. We didn't ask. Now, if it's a WNBA. I hate this. If it's a WMBA game, fine. All the women commentators all day long. Fine, whatever. But if I'm watching, like, Texas, Ohio State, and there's like a woman color, you're giving color commentary on a sport you've never suited up on, Jack. No, the thing you mentioned, though, just a second ago, about women lowering their voices, particularly when they're, um, around sports.

You see it with like, uh, I do see it with WMBA players. I see it with, uh, just, just anyone who's, you know, a lot of women in TV, there's this like, I call it jaw speak, but it's also like, like this lower. register speak that, you know, we're really excited to be out here today. I really can't believe it's going on. And it's like, so what you're doing is you're speaking with like your lower jaw only and all from the lower part of your throat, which is just not natural for women to speak like that at all. That is not the natural speaking voice of women. Why are you trying to sound like men? So it's, you know, going back to what we said before, they're trying to turn men into women and women into men, literally. Yeah. And it's just so why, why is an F, then let's go to the NFL.

really quick. So the NFL, this is a video of their new dancer for the Vikings. Now look, let's all just take a moment and count how many times the Vikings have won a Super Bowl. I don't want to watch this. I don't want to see this.

You see, the studio thought I was calling for a clip. I was merely counting how many Super Bowl victories the Vikings have won. It's not a lot. Which requires absorbed amounts of silence. Now, that was the new Vikings dancer. Why is the NFL doing, like, Blake, from a purely business standpoint, this is dumb. It doesn't do anything. Like, what are they doing here?

You know, I just think. They're doing what Vikings have to do, which is they're failing. They're failing at things. So this is a good question. Do you think that if the Packers did this would be put up with, like they would put up with it? Packers don't have cheerleaders. Do you know that? Why?

That's too cold. Well, there's too cold. They've never done it. I think them and the Steelers have never done it. The Panthers have a trans dancer for the third year straight. Like, why are the people in? I don't think straight's the term I would use to describe them having a trans dancer. Third year straight.

Oh, third year in a row. but why are the people of North Carolina putting up with this? I don't, I mean, the Panthers are a lot laughing stock of the NFL, obviously. But I just, and children are going there and they have to go watch male dancers. Oh, I know I'm getting to Jack. They have to go watch some trans dude dance with the women. So why is the NFL, like, again, I thought woke is dead. Why is the NFL actively at war with its fans?

because this is this is still some of the vestiges that have gone on since remember that when BLM got started it was even prior to George Floyd one of the biggest early early sort of public protests that BLM did was of course Kaepernick and Travis Kelsey again was a huge part of it as well and kneeling for the kneeling for the national anthem and you know expressing hatred towards your country and degrading your country and saying that America is bad in the name of Black Lives or something, some way connecting that to the national anthem. And they've been targeting the NFL for this since the Obama administration. When they use the NFL, I believe there was a Baltimore Ravens, to push Obamacare.

And these operations have been going on because they are social conditioning experiments. This is what the left does. They say, where can we get the most normies? Where can we get the most children? Where can we get the most eyeballs? Okay. So if this is the institution that we need to control. to push our various social contagions, then we are going to take control of it from the inside,

and we are going to push all of this across those channels. So you can literally see the culture war being fought out at an NFL game when you look at the players dealing for the anthem, which is stopped. But then the veterans come out, but then the trainee, you know, cheerleaders come out and the male cheerleaders. And it's all sort of mixed together because the NFL, is just this sort of, you know, hyper, just hyper compartmented, hyper-pressurized version of all of America fighting together at once from a cultural perspective.

Final thoughts, Blake. I'm just very glad it was the Minnesota Vikings getting the male cheerleaders because my friend John is a Vikings fan, and I now have another thing I can make fun of him for. And I'm sure I'll have a lot because I'll also have their inevitable playoff defeat at the end of this season. where they'll get all their hopes up, they'll think it's finally our year, and then they'll implode in catastrophic fashion. And then I will feel really good and happy

until my Packers lose the following week to the 49ers. Tyler, final thoughts? Man, if I see trans cheerleaders in college football, that's going to be, I think we're going to have a cultural meltdown in America. So I hope this doesn't bleed over from corporatized NFL to the NCAA, but I guess we'll see. I guess we'll see. I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon had trans cheerleaders.

And they'll have really sleek Nike outfits. They'll lead the way in that crap. They will. They will. All right. Everybody, until next week, keep committing thought crimes. And maybe you'll tune to the South Park. See you soon.

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