The Charlie Kirk Show - Trump's Big Election Fraud Speech + AMA 272

Episode Date: July 17, 2026

President Trump's speech to the nation included big claims about the 2020 election, Chinese hacking, and even the perfidy of his own intelligence services. The Federalist's Brianna Lyman helps dissect what he said and the impact it could have. Tyler Bowyer previews Arizona's imminent primary and also gives a detailed analysis of Iowa, where TP Action hopes to turn Zach Lahn into a national star. Plus, AMAs return after a two-week break with questions about how to stop birth tourism, the threat of democratic socialism, and whether President Trump should declare a "national emergency" over our elections. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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obviously not covered by the fake news media that caused to stir NBC, ABC, CNN, all refused to cover it. In it, he alleged that the Chinese had been meddling in our elections, pointing back to 2020, that they have secured voter files for over 220 million Americans, including a revelation that almost 300,000 non-citizens are registered to vote and that the intel community has intentionally subverted the president, not informing him. They were massaging intel reports, burying the lead, and much, much more. I figured rather than just go through it clip by clip, I wanted to bring in somebody that's been studying this very closely, and that's Brianna Lyman, elections correspondent for the federalist. Brianna, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

thank you for making some time for us this morning. This is what you cover. This is this is your beat. Boil it down here. Distill it for us. What were to you the biggest takeaways of last night that our audience needs to know? Yeah. And thank you so much for having me. I think the overall takeaway is that despite what the left may say, the 2020 election is not beyond reproach and concern. And I go back to John Radcliffe when he was at the DNI back in January of 2021. He put out a statement And he had said that he had concerns that the intelligence community was essentially downplaying or politicizing their investigations into whether China influenced the 2020 election. And I think everything we're seeing in the past 24 hours actually validates what John Ratcliffe had said five years ago.

So we did see that apparently the intelligence community was trying to hide from the sitting president intelligence indicating that China did have some attempt to influence the election vis-a-vis social media campaigns. There was also a report suggesting China may have looked at the 2016 election, identified states and sectors that supported President Trump, and would then use their own leverage to try and basically cripple those entities so that they couldn't help President Trump in the 2020 election. Those are all things that are extremely, you know, cause for concern. We saw other to classify material indicating that the same items that the intelligence community said in the 2021 report didn't show China trying to influence elections, mainly social media operations,

are the same things that the intelligence community then said in 2023 did contribute to China influencing the 2022 midterms. So there's that politicization that we're talking about. Yeah. And the politicization is a huge issue here. And the fact that China seems to be intentionally poking at vulnerabilities in the American cultural and political system, including trying to stoke racial animus and discord and also working with journalists that were anti-Trump journalists to write additional anti-Trump stories. So it's sort of an attack for multiple vectors. Now, I've seen there's some controversy or disagreement about their access to these 220 million voter files. Some are saying,

you could pay a small fee and get these files at the state level in some states. Break that part down for us, Brianna, is how worried should we be that they have these voter files? I know that there's some concern about troops and where they're stationed and where they're voting. That, that to me is very relevant, but how accessible are these voter files and how nefarious should we consider it that China has access to 220 million of them? Yeah, well, one of the reports talked about just how China, Russia, Iran, and even North Korea had access or could possibly gain access to our election systems themselves, right? That they are vulnerable to some kind of nefarious action. So I don't think it's beyond the pale to say how secure our election systems, the machines we use,

and also how secure our registrations and our voter files. And remember, these can't be too hard to get to because you have to have local and state officials who can access them because they are the once conducting and carrying out elections on the day-to-day basis during election season, right? So it's not unreasonable that China or another foreign actor could possibly gain access to these. And you would think that this would be a watershed moment, right? This is something that should be very apolitical and objective. There is a chance for foreign election interference. They can possibly access very important data.

What can Republicans and Democrats do to stop it? And instead, the response you're seeing to the clips you guys played in the beginning from Newsom and Cory Booker is Donald Trump is a conspiracy theorist. And so it's concerning because these are the same people who told us that foreign election interference was so bad that we had to impeach Donald Trump. And yet now when they're given actual evidence of foreign election interference or the potential for it, they're pretending like it doesn't exist. Well, this is a great point you're making, Brianna. The fact of the matter is all of these people are on record having expressed concerns about the vulnerabilities in our own electoral system. And I can play clips of this, right?

You have, here's Obama in 2018, as a matter of fact, talking about hacking elections. So, okay, so 20. Cosing up to Russia, what happened to the Republican Party? The threat to our democracy doesn't just come from Donald Trump or the current batch of Republicans in Congress or the Koch brothers and their lobbyists or too much compromise from Democrats or Russian hacking. The biggest threat to our democracy is indifference. So he mentions it. Here's Nancy Pelosi, as a matter of fact, peddling the idea that Republicans are going to be the ones that hack voting machines. SOT 19.

We always have concerns. But with this president and these Republicans who have no commitment to the rule of law and doing things the appropriate way. We're ready. There's so many things that you can do to protect the election and they are being done, whether it's litigation or legislation or just mobilization, communication, all that. But in addition to that, we have to be on guard as to what they may try to do to the technology. They may try to creep into the technology and create a false case.

Oh, create a false count through the technology. So this seems to be something that they're very aware of. I've seen clips in the past of Kamala Harris going through, walking through election facilities, talking about hacking vulnerabilities from foreign actors. So, but all of a sudden, this is disinformation and President Trump is trying to undermine the confidence in our electoral system. Please explain that to me. Yeah, well, I think the reason they're running with that line that Trump is trying to undermine our, you know, trust in the election system, is because they want to try and cast a shadow of doubt on any legitimate things that one President Trump may bring up. Also, let's remember there were legitimate concerns in 2020, specifically in places like Georgia.

And if President Trump is able to prove with the declassifications that there is evidence that there may have been, you know, some problems in the 2020 election that we should absolutely rectify going forward, it would lead people to say, maybe we should take a look back at some other things that had been dismissed by the Democrats and by the propaganda press. So I do think they're concerned about that. I also think that they have to realize that the intelligence community lost any shred of credibility it had back in 2020 when they're the same people who said that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation. And now apparently they're the same people that were actually trying to hide information from the president in 2020 about China influence. I want to talk to you about an issue so many Americans face. And that's health insurance. an organization I really, really appreciate called Christian Healthcare Ministries.

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so we want to of course keep this facing forward president trump is very concerned with 2020 understandably but he is the president now we are in 2026 and i think you and i all would agree what matters most is where do we go from here? And so I think first of all, we should just highlight President Trump passed the ball to Mark Wayne Mullen. We associate him, of course, with deportations, but he's also been giving a portfolio for the homeland security aspect of our elections.

And he was describing this morning the number of non-citizens who have gotten onto our voting rolls in just a handful of states. Let's play clip 29. We've identified 250,000 non-citizens registered to vote in just four states. We also worked with proactive states

to identify 28,000 non-citizens on their voter rolls, plus 400,000 individuals that are still registered to vote that are deceased. That's just in four states. Just in four states, and even if those are large states, you calculate that out. That's almost certainly going to mean

several million people illegally registered to vote. If they vote, it's not going to automatically flag anything as improper. What's the takeaway from this, Brianna? What does this mean for our country that this is possible to have happened? Yeah, I mean, if this isn't enough to convince some of those Republicans who refuse to get on board with the Save America Act to get on board, I don't know what will. And I think what people have to remember with non-citizen voting, it's very easy for a non-citizen to, register to vote intentionally or even accidentally, right? The only thing standing between a non-citizen and our free and fair elections is a little square box like this big, really this big that says you attest

under penalty of perjury that you are telling the truth about your citizenship status. So it's a very toothless law. And I just did a report in New Jersey a few weeks ago where there are non-citizens writing into their county election clerk saying, I didn't even know I was registered. I would like to be removed because otherwise I won't be able to apply for citizenship. And so one of the problems is because of the way Congress works, people can get registered at the DMV, and people who may not speak English proficiently may accidentally register to vote. And because they're not prompted to prove that they are a citizen, they may just very well not know that they can't register to vote. Of course, you could have nefarious actors as well. And so this should be that impetus that

Republicans and even Democrats need to see that our elections are not secure from foreign election interference. Non-citizens register to vote and possibly voting is foreign election experience. Yeah, that's such a great point. So you've got nefarious actions of China and others meddling directly in our election. They're sending fake IDs to people trying to get them registered. But we have a more central, fixable problem, which is that non-citizens may, whether or not they know that they're doing so or not, are registered to vote in this country. Now we have proof in four states, four states of at least 250,000 foreigners that are registered to vote. Okay, let's, that's one aspect. Of course, let's say, let's pass the Save America Act. But there's a whole other aspect,

which is this deep state, which seems to be intentionally, uh, obfuscating or concealing this intel from the president. Let's play SOT 17. Another official inside the FBI wrote that she was running, quote, a shadow government, unquote, to keep intelligence about China's election meddling from becoming known and to keep it. away from the honorable press. Other officials who witness such efforts perceive the motivations to be blatantly

political. I mean, this seems like treason, Brianna. I think he said elsewhere in the speech, too, that they have the CIA presidential daily briefings and they're keeping information away from the president about China trying to influence the election. I think specifically because

their research said they're trying to move the election towards Joe Biden. And I guess we compare that with what we saw in 2016, where they allegedly had evidence that Russia was moving it towards Trump. And so they just started a massive investigation of the Trump campaign. I just feel there's a huge divergence there that's very revealing about how they behave in the permanent part of Washington. Yeah. And the fact that they said they were massaging those daily presidential briefings, again, to water down the information they gave to the president is concerning. And for some reason,

people still want Americans to believe that they should have full trust in our intelligence community, but they have shredded any ounce of credibility starting in 2016 with the Russia collusion hoax to the Hunter Biden laptop and now to all of this declassified information. And so I think that when President Trump says that he wants to kind of clean out house and you have all those leftist detractors say that Donald Trump is upending society as we know it, Donald Trump is doing something that the founders probably would have really respected, which is taking power away from unelected officials who are actively working against the president, right? If you're concealing information about foreign threats from the president, you're working against the president and the

country. So I hope to see that President Trump has its administration cracked down on people who did take these actions to conceal. They should be fired if they're still employed. If anyone did anything illegal, there needs to be investigations into that. So hopefully this is that first step toward the accountability we've been waiting to see for a decade. Yeah. So let's let's like keep our facts here straight, by the way, because the, The left loses their brain is about this stuff. I mean, they just went completely, fully insane about this. Let's just play one clip here just for fun.

This is the left losing their brain. All right. There's so many to choose from. I want to make sure I get the right one. How about this? Saad 18. He is claiming that China was able to get access to voter registration information about millions of Americans, hundreds of millions of Americans.

What we don't yet know is whether they were, able to do anything with that information. There is no evidence that they were, again, able to change the outcome of votes. So that's ABC that was willing to talk about how safe and effective the vaccine was, that Hunter Biden's lobtop was actually Russian disinformation, that Joe Biden was at the top of his game, that Kamala Harris was nominated in a fully democratic process, BLM riots were mostly peaceful. And here he is telling you, we're not going to error the president's speech. And by the way, there's nothing to see here at all. Lyman, thank you so much for joining us. For nearly 3,000 years, Homer's The Odyssey, has shaped

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We're going to do a full turning point action primary breakdown. There he is. There's the man, the myth, the legend himself. here's what I want people to understand. People probably don't fully appreciate what turning point action is doing and what a massive difference turning point action has made in this primary season. So I'm going to do this for you, Tyler, because you're the man who's orchestrating so much of this. But think about this.

We got Biggs, Andy Biggs, the primary is on Tuesday. The polls have them up anywhere between 30 and 50 points. I mean, just massive. Iowa, Zach Lawn, Joe Mitchell, the younger party dynamics were bringing young, amazing candidates to the four. We actually endorsed people that other people endorsed against, and we won, all right? Put it that way. Indiana, we spoke up, we laid down the law. We got rid of all those senators, those state senators that were standing in the way of redistricting. We had a massive route that night.

We have a memory that's about 20 seconds long in this country, and I'm I want everybody to remember that. Texas, we were early on Paxton. The president followed us. We're grateful for that. Paxton ran away with it. And we've got his back in the general. We've got a heck of a fight with Taarico, but I like our chances there. So, Tyler, all of this combined, like explain our guiding philosophy, why we're doing what we're doing and what we're doing in the field. I mean, we're talking about fundamentally changing the Republican Party for the better. Andy Biggs, you mentioned first. We'll start there because that's the big thing that we're going to cover on Tuesday.

We're probably going to live stream Tuesday, and you're going to want to pay attention because Arizona, again, for everybody that's listening at home, is the most important state for 2028 for Republicans, the most bar none important state. And so explain why. Well, just quickly, and we're going to synopsize this because we're going to talk about this a whole lot for the next two and a half years, essentially two and a quarter years, is that it. If we lose Arizona in 2028, the statistics on winning the presidency for a Republican go way down the drain. The left has some states like this, Michigan, but all the different combinations that you need to win the presidency, Arizona is a part of a vast majority of those for Republicans, especially if you start losing states like North Carolina or Georgia or some others, right? So you have to win Arizona. And so you have to win now.

Andy Biggs is the best way I can describe it for most of the country is when Ron DeSantis won, Freedom Caucus member, got in, people weren't super sure he had the capability of winning at the time. The Democrats put through everything they possibly could. He won by a very small, very small margin in 2018. It was like 40,000 votes or something, right? Which is nothing in Florida, because we're talking about millions of millions. To a guy who has since been arrested a few times, drugs, everything, right?

Yeah. Yeah, lots of scandals. and thank goodness that Ron DeSantis won. But when he won, he fundamentally transformed that state and shifted not just Florida, but the entire party ideologically. And a lot of that is, again, thanks to the president, the president got behind Ron DeSantis. He didn't have to do that.

He did it. And it helped Ron DeSantis win. But Ron DeSantis becoming governor of Florida fundamentally changed how elections happen everywhere because the Democrats abandoned that state and went other places. And the same thing could, easily happen here in Arizona, another swing state, because Florida was considered a swing state at that time, where Andy Biggs wins, Freedom Caucus member, fundamentally changes, and then the Democrats have to rearrange. So they abandon the state. They have to go other places. They have to try to win

other places. That is what is at stake. And how that impacts 2028 is if we do that now, we win now, the Democrats have to restack the deck. They have to completely change their entire game plan. So this is really important for us strategically as a party to win in Arizona, not just for Arizonans, but for the entire country. You brought up a couple others. Well, let's stay on Arizona just for a second here, Tyler. So remember back to 2024, we were having these huge voter reg gains. We were outpacing them.

I mean, Arizona has a lot of independence, but if you just look at Republican v. Democrat, we're crushing them, right? So especially in 2024, there's a lot of news on that. How have we done since November 2024 on the voter reg side? So it's actually expanded since 2024. So you'll see a couple of negative news stories because the Democrats have been putting a ton of, they're trying to play catch up now in the final months of voter registration ahead of this election. And so they've made some gains in Maricopa County.

You know, obviously when you clean the voter rolls, you lose voters. And so if you don't replace them and go out proactively do that, our team is out there doing it. and we're actually slowing the losses, let's say, per se. And we saw plenty of these in 2020, even ahead of 2022. The Democrats invested a ton into voter registration. But what didn't you know it? Once USAID went away, once Soros money and international money and C3s and things like that, started having a lot more eyes on them after the Trump administration got in,

they've had a tougher time just like freely registering tens of thousands. hundreds of thousands of voters across the country. So the Republicans have done a good job at registering voters since 2024, and we've expanded in almost every state. But, you know, again, the Democrats are going to last minute try to squeeze in and do everything they possibly can to manipulate voter rolls and get as many people in and try to salvage as many of their voters that they kept. And that's important to keep an eye on.

But we've expanded our voter reg advantage in the state of Arizona. Arizona since 2024. That's correct. Bottom line. They're trying to play catch up right now. So maybe that they've had a couple good months, but overall we're still ahead even even since 2020 by a lot. Which is great, great new hundreds of thousands of voters. So great. Yeah. What is the if you know the Delta where it's at currently. Yeah. So we're just over 300,000 right now. Um, more Republicans, the Democrats. But keep in mind to Arizona like many states, North Carolina is the same as as this has a huge, uh, has a huge faction of independent voters. And so the independents in Arizona lean like California lean a little bit more left. A lot of them are early California transplants, things like that.

And so you have a lot of younger people too who don't identify with a party who lean a little bit more left. And so it's not a huge disparity. It's not one of these things where it's like, you know, Democrats have 80% of the independence. But, you know, there's an independence of. misnomer, right? So a lot of people think independent. They think, oh, that person goes back and forth between Republican and Democrat. No, that's not the case. They just don't register with a party. Most people identify as like a liberal independent or a conservative independent. Yeah, I think even like sometimes conservative leaning independence are basic just Republican voters who, they're very

attached to like, I'm not a member of a party. Yeah, or they view themselves as more conservative than the Republican Party. Yeah, also that. And so those, those people exist on both sides. There's slightly more left-leaning. And so again, the Republicans have, have an advantage. They've got to chase every single Republican voter plus all of your Republican independent leaning voters in the state. So Tyler, just so everybody's aware, every week I get pictures sent from trainings that are going on at HQ, whether it's in Arizona HQ or if it's in Nevada, we've got a field office in Nevada now or a field office in New Hampshire. We're training up hundreds and hundreds of these ballot chasers in what we're calling the red wall as we're

seek gains in the midterms, but also looking ahead to 2028 to make the math really, really hard on Democrats. Tyler, maybe just since we're talking about Arizona and Andy Biggs right now, focus on that. How are things going? And are we ahead of where we were in 2024 as far as staffing up and building that machine to get out the vote? Final minute. Yeah, way ahead. Andrew, actually, and we're in really good spot because we brought back so many of those ballot chases that we had in 2024. So we were able to start, you know, at kind of a rocket point right now. just running head start this year. And so we've been able to get out ahead of even where we were in 2024 with full-time people on the ground, which this is part of the reason why you're seeing such a huge advantage in the primary here in Arizona. Because obviously, turning points name ID and with what we call high propensity Republicans, people trust the brand.

With low propensity Republicans, that's who we're really working with, who don't typically vote. The more we can get the about to vote in the primary, the further out ahead we get before the general. And we're doing that work. Man, I'm very proud of the work that you guys are doing, Tyler. I mean, genuinely, it is, people don't understand how much you're doing behind the scenes. And it's just, it's tremendous.

So good job. We're really proud of you. Let's talk about Iowa. Iowa is a state that, you know, we're talking to Rich Barris, for example. It's closer than people want it to be. Trump's not on the ballot. But we had a huge, huge primary season there. We've, you know, talk about Joe Mitchell.

Let's talk about the governor's race. The floor is yours. Yeah. So, so, so you have a Senate race that opened up, uh, this, this time. So Johnny Ernst. Johnny Ernst stepped down. Johnny Ernst. Johnny Ernst stepped down, which was kind of a shocker to people.

She's not that old, right? She's really not that old. Um, she's, she's well enough liked. I think she just kind of. she had the admirable trade of hating congress a little bit yeah which i think is good you know i don't think she was the worst i mean it's a transition period for iowa i kind of went from this like really a little bit bluish state to purple state to kind of what's viewed as a red state now a little bit like a uh uh trump state and you know joney urns was like i'm out and so hinson who's the

you know, a cute blonde congresswoman stepped up and was running and she's well-liked and she's doing pretty well in the polls. Joe Mitchell, who actually ran an organization that we partnered with called Run Jin Z, which focused on recruiting Jin Z members of the public to run for office, like mostly state legislature, city council, things like that. I mean, he's really put in the time. He ended up working for the Trump administration for a little bit. doing a really tremendous job, threw his hat in the ring, young guy, and pretty handily won

his race for Congress. So he'll be one of the youngest members of Congress out of Iowa, which is awesome, huge, huge fan of the president, vice president, which you haven't always had that in Iowa. You've had some kind of establishment people who have kind of been a little bit anti-Trump, if you remember the governor endorsed against Trump in the primary, which was huge. huge mistake. She ended up, you know, kind of just kind of going into obscurity a little bit, although I think she's a good lady. But Joe is going to be kind of this up-and-comer that really crushes it there. That laid the foundation for what was coming, which was this governor's race. And Zach Lane threw his hat in the ring. He's kind of known, and a lot of people forget this,

but he's known for throwing a tough question at Barack Obama when he was a young man. What was the question? I'm spacing on it right now, but we could pull the video of it where he kind of asked Barack Obama a tough question when he was a young, young guy, when he was running originally, and got some notoriety from that has become a pretty significant business leader since that time. That was obviously 15, 20 years ago now at this point. And threw his hat in the ring as a long shot for governor and ran probably one of the most underrated campaigns. in this cycle where he went from not an unknown effectively business leader kind of similar to J.D. Vance in a lot of ways to all of a sudden having this real shot and becoming really likable and he was propped up by the whole Maha coalition. So he's a big, he's huge on

embracing the make America healthy again crowd. There's a huge RFK contingency. I think that you could argue is in the Midwest, RFK. He's so impressive, Tyler. And we endorsed. This guy is so impressive. We endorsed them late. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead, Andrew.

No, we had him on the show right after his primary win. We endorsed him. He won. I mean, he was so gracious, gave us so much credit for getting behind his campaign. And he, he, he, I genuinely believe this is one of the most impressive candidates in the entire country. He's an entrepreneur. He loves Iowa. He came back to Iowa because he wants the young people to have the American dream

and be able to build a life there because so many of them leave. They've got the brain drain problem. It was just he hit all the right notes. The guy is just completely on point. He'll be one of the youngest. I think he will actually be the youngest governor in America, on our side at least in the Republican Party. Hey, you know who else was the youngest governor in America and had a bright future?

Bill Clinton. Yeah. So, Zach has a huge future ahead of them. Right now, he's winning in the polls. He's up against an absolute freak of a candidate. Just a really weird, creepy-looking guy that's on the Democrat side there. And which we're seeing, we're seeing a lot of this. Obviously, Tala Rica is another example of that.

And so that's a good transition to Paxton. We got behind Paxton super early. Charlie was very fond of Kim Paxton. Sorry, I was, I just got to, I did that because I just, looked up the photo of the Iowa Democrat. He looks like he, he looks like he came out of a UFO. He looks like he came out of a,

uh, a documentary for serial killers. Uh, I mean, he has that vibe. All right. And so, hold on Tyler.

Tyler, we're, we're running out of time here and I want to make sure we get to this. I want you to quickly touch on New Hampshire and then the action item for Arizona on Tuesday got the big primary. So New Hampshire, we're kicking butt right now. Um,

actually one of the closest underwatch, not watched Senate races right now. is Johnson Nunu pulling only one point below the Democrat opposition that's there. New Hampshire is about the size of a medium-sized city, and so we have a real chance to pull off a Senate race in New Hampshire. The team is kicking butt on the ground. Tuesday, Arizona has this election. Andy Biggs needs to win by a huge amount of points, because remember here in Arizona, we have a lot of snowbirds that haven't come back yet. We have a lot, so we don't want to take anything for granted. We have a lot of families on vacation right now in July.

And so every person that's in Arizona or has friends or family in Arizona, you have to make a plan to vote for Tuesday. You have to get out the vote. You have to show up in person. We're expecting a huge Republican advantage on Tuesday where Republicans just demolish the Democrats and turnout on Tuesday. We cannot take that for granted. I would like to see an advantage that's more significant than we had in 2022 for the primary. That would scare the living daylights of the Democrats. I would love to see that. But the team is working incredibly hard to make sure that happens and making plans to vote across the state of Arizona. T.P.action.com slash. Tyler, we're going to have you back on soon. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. AZ early. TPaction.com slash AZ early. Check it out today. Tyler Boyer,

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We are at the Y-ReFi Studios. Blake's holding it down in Phoenix, and he's got my mic flag. What can I say? Danny's running point here. What's our first question? I think our first person... Anthony.

Oh, all right. Elizabeth, I think. I think Elizabeth is who we have queued up first year. All right. Here we go. Are you able to hear me? Yeah, yep. Yes, we can.

Yes, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for taking my call. Also, before I begin, this would be my second reminder to Vice President J.D. Vance that Charlie would be a great baby name. Ooh, good point. Good point. Okay. I will pass that note. I apologize.

Thank you. So the reason I was calling today is because of the birth by citizenship decision through the Supreme Court. So they're saying that it's constitutional and we have a hard time passing a law unless we did another constitutional amendment. But there's nothing in the Constitution that doesn't make it illegal. So if we just made it illegal for anybody on any kind of temporary visa, whether it be awaiting asylum, tourist visa, H-1B visa, you can go through all of them. Anybody who's your any type of temporary status, if you give birth on American soil, it's 10 years in prison and up to a $1 million fine.

Also, we had to go with COVID. If you wanted to leave the country, you needed to have a negative COVID test within 48 hours. anyone between like 14 and maybe like 52 would have to have a negative pregnancy test to get into the country. Yeah. I think. Yeah. So I think that's definitely the way to go about it. It's exactly as you say. The Supreme Court can say this is you have a constitutional right to citizenship if you're born here. But we absolutely can also say it is criminal behavior to conceal a pregnancy to knowingly come here pregnant. There's so many ways we can go about this where we just make it very. repented. We could just say, if you're a tourist or non-permanent resident who has a kid here, you're on the hook for like, yeah, maybe six, seven-figure amount of money to, you know, compensate for the cost of this new citizen you've created. And you are permanently barred from ever coming to the U.S. or seeking family unification. Because so many of these people,

they get this birthright citizenship stuff. They do it. They do the birth tourism so that their citizen child can sponsor them to immigrate 18 years from now. And if you just shut that down and say, that is categorically banned, a lot of this, I think, would go away. Yeah. And so, Elizabeth, there's actually, yeah, so here's my issue with what you said. And I love directionally where you're going, because I completely agree. My concern is that if you start asking people to do a pregnancy test, that that's going to be politically untenable, because we just have a lot of weaklings in Congress. me, I met these people, I talked to these people, and a lot of them have no spine. Okay, so if you start making, they're going to talk about medical autonomy, that it's an invasion of privacy, all this

stuff. But what you can do, you've got a couple acts that are already on the board, right? Ban birth tourism act from Senator Marsha Blackburn. So it amends the Immigration and Nationality Act to make aliens inadmissible if the primary purpose is giving birth for citizenship. It adds it as a deportable offense. You've got the back off. Act, which among others is Senator John Cornyn put forward. I think he was trying to save face and win some votes. It makes birth tourism inadmissible, deportable. You've got the Anchors Away Act, which is from Rep. Andy Ogles. He's come on this show to explain it. It clarifies subject to the jurisdiction thereof in statute. And it limits travel on pregnancy, enhanced penalties for

facilitators of birth tourism. Basically, there are ways to legislate if you're coming here and having a that's not okay and we can outlawed. All right. So those things should happen. But again, we've got the 60 vote threshold in the Senate. We've talked with Mike Lee extensively about the talking filibuster. You could talk about maybe adding certain things like this to a reconciliation package, but then you've got to deal with the parliamentarian and you've got to make it tied to the budget. Bottom line is, we're all sick of the excuses why we can't have common sense legislation when it comes to immigration and ensuring that non-citizens aren't voting in our election. And we're sick of the excuses. We're sick of political failure theater. Just get it done. These things are

absolutely requisites to a functioning democracy, a representative democracy, what we have. So they just need to get done. And the Supreme Court let us down. We got that crazy clip from Amy Coney Barrett this week where she admitted to being terrified of being a Supreme Court justice. So if that's the case and we're let down, we've got to find other. workaround. So yes, we've got to put all of our energy into this and we need to demand that our elected officials are pursuing these ends. Absolutely agree with that. All right. I think we have final questions. I think we have Anthony next. Hi guys. Howdy. How are you doing? What's going on, Anthony?

Doing pretty well. Not too much. Well, two things. First, Blake, did you see an email I sent earlier to the email address of two photos? I might have missed this one. I do try to police it, but I think I missed that one. Check it out because you're going to want to see the two photos. Actually, everybody in the office may like those. So now here's my question. We all joke about Mondami and the people that are part of the DSA and how crazy they are.

But does anybody understand how much of a threat they can be, especially if they start getting into like local government, like state level? Because we see in New York that half a dozen of the state assembly and Senate seats went to DSA members. Like, do people understand that, like, it's spreading now through the state? It's not just staying, like, in New York City. We see it in Colorado and other states. Do people understand that, like, the DSA is a huge threat?

Or are we just, like, or are they just, like, laughing at them because we know they're crazy and it's never going to work? Andrew, you'll probably have thoughts on this as well, but I think, I think you're correct to point that out. I think we are badly underappreciating this. I think the right. If the right has a weakness, one of their weaknesses is we have an unfortunate tendency to get very smug if the left is having a big spas out. When they go abolish the police, when they really run wild in cities, we think, oh, try that in a red state.

Oh, wait until they encounter the real world if it's something on campus. And what we really need to recognize is these young DSA people, they are literally taking over the party. I was just sent a new book that came out from a longtime Democrat. That's basically the warning of, guys, our party's been taken over by lunatics. And we can laugh at that. That might bail us out, this election, that might bail us out in 2028. But 2032, 36, you're going to have this party that is way more pro-socialism,

outright communism, if you want to use that term. They're way more radicalized across the board. And that's popular with a lot of young people. And one reason America's been so successful is we haven't had this hysterical, radical communist movement in America. And I think they're going to go mainstream. They're going to run wild. They're going to do a lot of damage to this country if it's not arrested now. This is why we have to care so much about young people.

If they just decide, oh, actually, I love radical communism, we're going to be in deep trouble as the country. Let's just, I'm going to play this and we'll cover both sides of the DSA rise and the debate that's happening in the Democrat side of the aisle. These people are so stupid. I don't know what to say about. So now we have this idea that these insurgent Democrats and what is their solution. Is there a solution to beat Republicans to rise? against Republicans? No. Their solution is to be Democrats. Like, they're part of the problem. No, you are part of the problem because you're a f***ing idiot. Okay, so there's a lot of,

there's a lot there. I mean, Carville is worried about the rise of DSA because he's more of an old school Democrat, but I think he represents an older, dying wing of the party that is, frankly, incapable of fighting off the rise of DSA. And to Anthony's point, they are taking over local races. The local races are a feeder ground for national elections. And we're already seeing that where you have Chevalier who took out Goldman. This is a person that fundamentally hates America, wants the destruction of the West. This is something that she said in the past. And she's now going to be a seated member of Congress, most likely. I actually think that Congress should look at ways to keep her from being seated because I don't think you can hate the country that you claim to

represent. So that's a huge thing. But yeah, I mean, people underestimate just how disaffected young people are, right? Young people, if they don't have a stake in the American dream, if they don't own anything, if they don't have a mortgage, if they're not married with children, they want to burn down the system that they feel is rigged against them, all right? And this is what Charlie warned about so much. You can have a whole nation of renters and that's exactly what you need in place. place to have a radicalized electorate. People that don't want the system that our founders envision to survive, that don't want the rule of law, that don't want a capitalist market and economy with capital that you can access and pursue the American dream and invest in different

companies. They want to burn all that down and they want to seize the means of production. They want to freeze rents so that landlords can't afford to fix the furnace when it goes out. I mean, this whole thing is a disaster. And you're already seeing an exit. out of New York City, but you're seeing these people pop up all over the country. That is where the energy is on the left. And so the choice remains clear. It's something we talk about a lot. We have momdaniism, or we've got MAGA. And the road is in front of us, and we are in a race against time to make sure that our ideas can actually work, that young people can afford a home, that they can afford to get married, they can afford to have kids, that they can believe in the

system as it's currently structured and situated. But at one point that I make a lot and Blake, I know you believe the same is that at a very fundamental level, there's a structural issue here. Bannon calls at the Lords of Easy Money. We have printed so much money, whether it's COVID, whether it's the Great Recession, whether it's just every year with these massive budget deficits, when you put more dollars into the system, then there are goods, and they don't keep up, you get inflation. It's massive inflation under Joe Biden. What that does is it makes rich people with equities, the economic incumbents, they have assets that inflate and value, and they become more and more out of reach for salary workers, for middle class,

Andrew, like, I mean, we've talked about this, but I think the most impressive thing is J.D. Vance was actually talking about this, and I think he was channeling Charlie as he did that. We have this clip ready to go, let's do 37. We ran the experiment. We ran the experiment of offshoring all of our industrial jobs, of becoming a services and finance economy and allowing Wall Street to come in and buy every asset of modern life and turn it into an investable,

you know, line goes up asset. And what has that done? It's created a generation of kids who kind of are attracted to socialism. You have to fix that problem. Totally agree. Totally agree. So we ignore this threat at our own peril. And, you know, people, I remember,

Who was it? It was some reporter that said, let New York find out the hard way about communism. I think that's a complete wrong way to look at this. Every inch of ground in this country is America. And it should not be an occupying force taking over a Muslim from Uganda, taking over as mayor of New York City. The amount of damage that he can do to that city, it could be irreparable. And that's that we should not stand for that. 100%. All right. I think we have a character. Carol next. Carol, unmute yourself. And what's your question? Hold on. Carol. We can hear you. There you are. So I was, you know, looking forward to the press conference last night with Donald Trump.

I was expecting Donald Trump to say there is a national emergency with elections. He didn't, he stopped short of that. And I mean, is that, is my perception correct? And I just kind of wanted, you. You guys to know, like, what do you think about that? Do you think he should have declared a national emergency? Or do you think that's going to come later? Or what's your take on that? Andrew, you might have your own thoughts on this. My gut feeling, I don't know that declaring a national emergency would accomplish that much.

We know it would be immediately enjoined by a judge. Would that be worth trying to overrule a judge rapidly? I'm not sure. I think it would be very easy for Democrats to frame this as a big power grab, as him trying to, they'll say he's nullifying the elections, he's trying to become a dictator. You have to think about these in political terms. And I don't know if we're in the position yet to make that political sell for what would be a challenge. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y Reefi. You've probably been hearing me talk about Y Refi for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call.

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You can't actually do this with elections. I think it would get overturned in the courts actually. you know because elections are primarily a state and congressional matter the national emergency act the NEA doesn't grant election powers so president trump could do that and it would probably have some effect would it have the ultimate effect that we all wanted to have probably not and it would get overturned in the courts so you can't postpone or cancel elections courts have rejected similar measures in the past so unfortunately you need to do this through legislation you need to do you need to fix our elections through legislation. So that's the key. I mean, I know they're trying everything that they

possibly can, but ultimately the main thing that we need to do, and you saw this with Secretary Mullen's comment that in just four states, there's over a quarter of a million illegals or non-citizens on the voter rolls, you need to get voter ID passed. You need to get citizenship requirement to vote passed. And we're just waiting on a majority leader soon to get the votes, get it done, do the talking filibuster. And I mean, we've been loud on that repeatedly on social media on this show. So that's where we're at on that. Who's the next question?

Well, I think we might as well, this was a writing question, but it's related to that, that Joe wrote in, if at this point the Save America Pact is passed, is it reasonable or possible for it to be implemented before the midterm elections at this point? you might know more on this than I do, Andrew. My guess is it would be tough again because especially anything you do these days has to be laundered through six or seven Hawaii judges swoop in and say actually this violates everything the framers wrote 250 years ago. You're not allowed to do this. And so you always have that delay until the courts say actually you're out of line. But that's my gut feeling. Yeah, no, it wouldn't be in time for the midterms. so and blake's right there'd be court challenges things like that but even the states that are willing to implement it namely red states

um it wouldn't there wouldn't be enough time to implement it at least fully in any meaningful way but you still got to get it passed and the reason why we have to get it passed now is we have the senate we have the house we have the white house so you do it while you have the political power to get it over the finish line and so you know we're we're in a race against the clock to get the same america act passed now we have a lot of other good things that are in our favor, right? The census is coming up. We're redistrictinging is going to move a number of states, about a dozen into our category. It doesn't matter. We cannot allow citizenship requirement to vote in our elections to go another cycle without addressing it. And the last night's press conference, Secretary Mullen this morning, certainly just underscore that. But sadly, it wouldn't be in time

for 2026. That's rough. But that's how it is. And we We still need to pass it because we might not have out of Congress after this one. Let's go to, we have another written question you might like Andrew, which Brenda wrote in, and she wants to know what inspired you to start hitting back on X more recently. I think you know of whom she is speaking of. Ah. Well, I mean, listen, the truth is, you know, you're kind of always caught between a rock and a hard place with this stuff, right? You don't want to get in the mud with the pigs, but ultimately when somebody's invoking your name to justify a whole myth and fantasy that has been concocted, you know, at some point you have to sort of push back. And, you know, I think it all worked out for the best. The timing, you know, we've done everything we could, possible, to stay out of some of this garbage and nonsense.

I know we get a lot of emails from you guys in this audience asking us to do that. But ultimately, Charlie was a guy who avoided online feuds. He avoided the infighting that is so endemic to so many people on the right. You know, the right-wing mentality, Blake, Blake can appreciate this, I know, is different than the left. The left is a bunch of hive-minded socialists. They act in unison in concert. They're very good at staying unified, whether it's votes in Congress or beyond. But the right is a bunch of unruly self-starters.

they think independently, they act independently, and they're not willing, they're not afraid of brawling, right? And sometimes you can look at that from afar and think that it's messy and our side can't get its act together. Part of that is true. Part of it's just the way we're hardwired, I think, is conservatives. So, you know, but Charlie avoided that because he was building a coalition. We tried that, but ultimately, enough's enough. Every man has his breaking point. And, you know, with the preliminary hearing coming up, it was the right time because, you know, the evidence coming, you know, back, support was, was, was truly an avalanche of facts. And, you know, I think every reasonable person looking at the preliminary hearing understands that the state has

an incredible case. And it's, I mean, I wouldn't want to be the defense, put it that way. And, you know, there was fundamental myths that were being told that, frankly, we've known around turning point circles in the Charlie Kirk show for a long time that just certainly were not true. And I needed to disabuse people of those. And I was grateful as soon as we started doing that and Blake's been out front talking about this and continues to do so. It was like a whole army of people just stepped up. And we're going to get accused of some sort of paid op or coordinated campaign. No, I think it's just a lot of people were waiting for the evidence and they were waiting for somebody like myself to kind of rip the band-aid and go for it. And then, man, X responded,

social media responded. I was so grateful to see everybody's support. I think people were just, we just had enough. So hopefully that answers your question. Yeah. And of course, I've, I've been chomping up the bit the whole time to shoot back. And I'm glad that, I'm glad that we see so many other people really doing it. And I think you're right. I think a lot of people were waiting for the trial. The evidence was so clear. It's overwhelming. It's in the news. So they have a reason to talk about it, even if they're not around here, around us. And it's been good to see. Well, and let me just say one other thing, too. And I think, and I look at social media as a series of pathogens that emerge. And then the movement has to build up antibodies to them to fight back properly. Okay. So you have seen over the course of years, and by the way, some of these I defend and respect, but we've become very distrustful of government officials, you know, official narratives, official explanations, whether that's COVID, Hunter Biden's laptop, you know,

Joe Biden's at the top of his game, whatever. We've been lied to a lot. So I'm very sympathetic to people that want to distrust and be skeptical at first. But ultimately, we have to build up an antibody to the conspiracy slop that's out there. And namely, you have to demand facts. What they're really good at is pushing the burden onto the accused to defend yourself and to sort of say, I did nothing wrong here and you play defense. No, no, no. When you make a reckless accusation, when you make a cruel accusation based on a whim or a vibe or some other intuition, the burden of proof is on you.

You cannot burden shift to the accused. And I think that is a muscle that our side is getting better at and we're learning. It's like, hey, uh-uh-uh. If you're going to come out with some crazy thing, some crazy theory of the case that's not substantiated by any evidence, then you've got to prove it. So let's, let's stop assuming that the person accused or smeared or maligned is somehow guilty. No, let's assume the person that's making the accusation is full of crap until proven otherwise. So that's my final thought. Precisely, precisely. All right. Let's go to Mick. We will read Mick's question. We have a related one.

All righty. Yep, good morning, fellas. With the information that was revealed by the president last night, Does that change your opinion on the 2020 election? I personally do not believe it was full on stolen from the president purely through ballots, but I believe they manipulate it via censoring us on the social platforms. But I could be convinced would love to hear your guys' takes. Andrew, you want to go first? You first, Blake. Well, you first.

I think I'm pretty much still in about the position I have before. I personally don't think I've ever seen. super strong evidence, even last night, where we saw that the Chinese seem to have penetrated, they can hack these systems, but we still don't know if they changed votes. And I've never seen strong evidence that votes were manufactured outright. But that's always been my mentality, that they were able to, it was a manipulated and essentially rigged, it was a legally rigged election. If you have a completely fake media environment that's going to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop, that's going to suppress narratives about COVID.

I know people hate the vaccine stuff, but I think it would have given the president a polling boost if the news had been that the vaccine had a successful trial. They suppressed that. They delayed that to get that past the election. There were so many ways they were putting their thumb on the scale throughout 2020. It was stolen in ways that don't require directly manipulating ballots, if that makes sense.

Yeah. And the truth is that Blake's right. I mean, when you use COVID as a predicate for, you know, mass mail in voting, you relax signature verifications, you basically remove every check and balance in protection in the system. This is how you end up with 2020. So to Blake's point, I think that remains, and Molly Hemingway, by the way, in her great book, rigged that everybody should still read, explains this very well. I mean, this election was rigged in multiple, multiple ways in 2020.

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Hey, I'm here. Can y'all hear me? Yes, yes, we can. What's your question? Okay. Last week, I watched hours of the preliminary hearing. I didn't watch the entire thing. I did watch all of y'all's evening coverage, though. And it was really hard.

I never, obviously never met Charlie personally. I know that it was extremely hard for those that actually had to be there in that courtroom, those that did know him personally and love him. I wanted to say thank you. I don't know if they'll hear this, but I wanted to say thank you to Officer Tatum and Graham Allen and Jack. I think there were some others too that actually were there in person. They didn't represent just themselves, but that. thousands of other Americans that would have loved to have been there in support and also

selfishly, we're glad that we didn't have to be there in person. Some of it just, it was just so hard. I'm trying to, I'm trying to be fast. My main thing is I just want to say, God bless Charlie's family. I don't know if I'll ever get to meet Erica in person. I think she's kind of a touchy-feely person, though. I'm not really, but if I ever get to meet her, I want to just give her the biggest, tightest the Lord has really showed his strength and grace through her.

It is impossible for someone to be so dignified and gracious and strong like she has without the Lord's health. And I just want to reiterate that there are thousands of Americans that love and support her and all of Charlie's family and friends. And pray for her every day. I pray for all of you regularly. I pray for Erica every day at 1014. I saw that. Someone posted on social media a few weeks ago, and I thought that was a great idea. So I've tried to do that. Anyway, there's more I could say, but I'll get to my second little thing that's not nearly as weighty, I guess,

maybe a little more humorous. But you all were talking earlier this week about daylight savings time and how we might be stuck with it forever. Is there a way that those of us that love standard time can dissuade those that like daylight savings time and maybe get it to be standard time instead. I don't know if there's anything that we can do out here, but do you all have any suggestions for that? Well, first of all, thank you. God bless you for watching as much of the hearing as you did.

And, of course, thank you for your well wishes and your prayers for Erica. Massively appreciated. We love getting messages like that from yourself in our emails all over. Those keep coming in, and we really do genuinely love and appreciate them, as does Erica. On daylight savings time and standard time, my favorite argument is that it's God's time.

We went into revolt against having noon when the sun is overhead, and I feel maybe our nation has been in decline ever since we did that. The other argument, of course, is Maha stuff. I know that Huberman guy is a big shill for standard time. I know Alex Clark is a big fan of standard time, and it's that argument that you want the sun up when you're getting up. That'll be healthier for you. You want the sun to be going down a little bit before you're going to bed,

and that matches what our body's natural rhythms are and it's a little unnatural for us to keep trying to extend daylight later and later into the day. That's my take about things. I think Arizona is great the way we have it. And I wish others would get on board. I wish they would learn to appreciate the joys of standard time. Well, I do think that it's going to be optional for states to opt in. So that's one thing that you should keep in mind.

I think Hawaii and Arizona have it right. I'm a big standard time believer. It's just amazing, though. It is literally one of those 50-50 issues. Nobody can decide if they want daylight savings time or standard time. You wonder how we got into the situation where we have to switch the clocks twice a year. Well, this is why, because people can't make up their minds. And I think if daylight savings time gets standardized across the board, people are going to end up revolting,

and we're going to go back either to a switching back and forth or we're going to try standard time. So, yeah, I agree. with Blake. I think you've got to have morning sunlight. It's what starts your internal clock and you got to have evening dark. It's what gets your body ready to go to sleep. So it is God's time. It's healthier. It's better for your circadian rhythm. And there's a lot of experts and reports that would back us on that. So yes. And by the way, thank you for your prayers. Thank you so much. That means the world to us. And I know Erica feels the prayers of everybody. Blake and I feel the prayers of so many of you across the country that are continuing to pray for us and pray for Charlie's legacy to be

carried forward. And we couldn't do it without you guys genuinely. I've said it before, but I feel the prayers of strangers. I still do. And I still meet so many people out on the street. They stop me and say they're praying for us. And they, it's, it's amazing. It means the world. Absolutely. We have only a minute. We could either go along, Andrew, or we could just read it real quick and answer it quick. What do you think? Well, I think, go ahead. Go ahead and read it real quick. All righty. We have Mary. She wrote, and we'll read it quick. What was Charlie's dating advice for young women as well as what's your advice? I don't want to presume on that, but I can repeat Charlie's.

Also, I started strong cell last month, and it has helped with fatigue during chemotherapy. So that's a great endorsement for strong cells. Send it over to them. I know Charlie's advice for young women was be deliberate, be speedy. Don't think you have an infinite amount of time because your time is running out, especially if you're a woman. and you have a biological clock, and you are more appealing when you're younger, when you have a lot of years to potentially have kids in front of you.

So if you're going to college, date deliberately, try to find a man to marry. And don't be cruel when men ask you out and you turn them down. That just keeps people away. We learn that from some of our kids at Chapter Leadership Summit. Don't be cruel women. Be nice to the men. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust,

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