The Charlie Kirk Show - Tulsi Gabbard Speaks on ObamaGate ft. Tulsi Gabbard

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

ObamaGate is getting bigger and bigger. DNI Tulsi Gabbard herself joins the show to explain what she's found and why she believes it’s not merely shameful, but evidence of a treasonous crime against the American people. Charlie reacts to the tragic passing of American legend Hulk Hogan, and uses a new JD Vance interview to explain the importance of curbing legal immigration to the U.S. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Let's get straight to our guest, the Director of National Intelligence and Great American Patriot, Tulsi Gabbard. Director Gabbard, great to see you. Thank you for taking the time. And let me say on behalf of the audience, thank you for digging and getting to the bottom of what stole so much of the first Trump presidency, the first Trump term I should say, and for having the guts and the courage to dig deep.

Declassifying that House report was so important. And so Director Gabbard, can you just take a moment here and remind the audience of everything that you have now made public and that you have learned over the past last week, because it's just been a whirlwind of news. So please take a moment just to take a step back and tell the audience what we have learned. Please. Sure, Charlie. Thank you so much. And thanks for your coverage of this really, really important disclosure that has ramifications

that are very far-reaching and that speak to the integrity of our democratic republic and nothing short of that. I'll try to be brief because we've released a lot of information over the last week, starting with last week Friday releasing a whistleblower's report, emails, communications, copies of a president's daily brief, one that was drafted, but pulled hours before it was to be released and never published, as well as one that was actually published. We released yesterday, as you mentioned,

the House Intelligence Committee Majority Staff Oversight Report that investigated a document that President Obama ordered the intelligence community to put together the January 2017 intelligence community assessment that basically came to the conclusion that Putin, Russia, had tried to influence and impact the outcome of the election in favor of Donald Trump. The real headline here is that the months leading up to the 2016 election, remember this was Donald Trump running against Hillary Clinton, the intelligence community consistently assessed over and over again that Russia had neither the intent nor the capability to impact

the outcome of the US election. And that's a really important point here, because in early December, after Donald Trump was elected, after he defeated Hillary Clinton in that historic election, President Obama called together a meeting of his National Security Council leadership. This was people like CIA Director John Brennan, then Obama's Director of National Intelligence,

James Clapper, Susan Rice, Andy McCabe, and many others on his senior cabinet national security team. What came out from that meeting was ultimately, and this is all documented, direction from President Obama to his team to create an intelligence community assessment that detailed how Moscow meddled in the US election in favor of Donald Trump. The key point here is not if Moscow meddled, it was how. And this is where a lot of the mainstream media right now

who are reporting and repeating the Russia hoax lie over and over again for years, are refusing to address this key point. is the document that the intelligence community created that was published in January of 2017 contradicted the other assessments that the intelligence community provided in the months leading up to the election, including the days leading after the election, by stating very clearly and with high confidence, which is a big deal coming from the intelligence community, that Putin intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump get elected.

What we released yesterday in the House Intelligence Oversight Staff Majority Report was a very detailed investigation into that January 2017 assessment that again CIA Director John Brennan DNI James Clapper at the time assessed with high confidence the conclusions that were that were driven in that report. What was revealed yesterday was that they created this knowing that it was false. They used intelligence and sources that were substandard,

did not meet basic intelligence community, tradecraft, analytics standards, and use things that they knew were discredited, like the Steele dossier. They knew it was discredited. They knew it was a politically manufactured document. James Clapper and John Brennan decided to use it anyway. So here's the bottom line up front. politically manufactured document, James Clapper and John Brennan decided to use it anyway.

So here's the bottom line up front. President Obama ordered a manufactured intelligence assessment in order to ultimately enact what would be a years long coup against Donald Trump using this document that again, did not reflect the intelligence community's overall assessments leading up to the election.

And it was used as a foundation to be able to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump's election and everything that came after. Thank you for that summary. And so I wanna now just emphasize one point of this. So the entire Russia narrative was on faulty, shoddy intelligence. Is that also included in what some of the skeptics or some of the critics would say?

Because they say, well, Bob Mueller found in 2019 and 2019 all these different reports of Russia trying to influence the election. But we're not contesting, though, at least from my understanding, that Russia was trying to sow discord or chaos. I think that's well received and well accepted. What is the contention here is that there is no evidence, in fact, there's evidence to the contrary, that Russia was doing any of it to help Donald Trump.

And even beyond that, Brennan went on to say that basic, or Adam Schiff went on to say it, Brennan alluded to it, that Trump did it in collusion with the Russian government. Can you speak to this? Because in some ways the media is being very crafty. So for example, the media would say, well, there's a 2017 intelligence community assessment supported by bipartisan Senate intelligence that says that Russia did interfere with the election.

And some people would say that, well, there was a 2019 report that says Russia did interfere with the election. You're actually you're not debating that you're not contending that you're saying, but they were not interfering to help Trump. Can you please elaborate on that and push back on some of the criticism? Yeah, Charlie, thanks. That is the important point here.

And I think it should also be of note that this is where the critics of what we revealed are going to. This is where President Obama's team and Senator Warner and other members of Congress are going to that exact point. They're saying, hey, look, nothing to see here. Everybody knows and agrees that Russia tried to meddle in the 2016 election. I don't disagree with that statement. Here's the point of distinction

is that there is no credible intelligence that points to Russia or Putin meddling in the 2016 election in order to try to get Donald Trump elected, period. And I think one of the most significant pieces of evidence that was revealed in that report we released yesterday is the fact that Russia claimed to have very, very damaging information, high-level DNC emails relating specifically to Hillary Clinton's physical and mental health, and DNC leaders questioning whether or not if elected, she would even be capable of carrying out the duties of the presidency. Russia had this.

If they wanted to swing the election for Donald Trump, they would have released it in September, October of 2016 at a pivotal time to swing momentum into Donald Trump's direction and damage Hillary Clinton's campaign. They did not do that deliberately. They understood that Hillary Clinton would likely be the inevitable president of the United States. They didn't think Trump could win,

like a lot of other people. And so they were withholding this damaging information about Hillary Clinton and planning to release it in the days or weeks leading up to her inaugurate, expected inauguration in order to once again, sow chaos within the United States to draw into question, the stability of our country and what kind of leadership would be in place.

This cuts to the core of the problem with the January 2017 President Obama ordered manufactured intelligence document. They willfully omitted this intelligence that existed because it didn't support the false narrative they intentionally built once again, which is the intelligence community says with high confidence that Putin aspired to and helped get Donald Trump elected in 2016. And just on top of that, the information that Russia had on Hillary Clinton, she was on tranquilizers. Could you imagine that as an October surprise? Oh, by the way, the woman that couldn't get into her van on the 9-11 memorial, remember that there was that video that went viral. She's also on tranquilizers. She was asking the State Department for potential, asking people for donations in return of her State Department policy, and Russia didn't use any of it. So, Director Gabbard, I want to now talk about one thing that has gone very viral and I think it would be very helpful for our audience to hear from you on this. And again, what happened here is so dishonest and underhanded and we are cheering you on

and we have your back 100%. You've used the phrase, a treasonous conspiracy. Those are fighting words. Those are big words. And I can tell you, the people in this audience, they know that and they agree with that. But can you make the case, can you present the argument to the best bill you can with unclassified information and public information,

what makes you believe that this reaches that sort of threshold? Well, we look at our democratic republic, Charlie, our system is built on the foundation of the American people casting their votes for who they want to be in office, to be our president and commander in chief. In this system, there is to be a peaceful transition of power. What we saw play out here was President Trump was elected by the American people in 2016, shocking most people in the United States

and apparently even Russia and Putin didn't think that he would win. Instead of accepting that this is the will of the people, what we saw is President Obama convening his national security team and concocting this contrived false narrative through the production of this intelligence community assessment in

January 2017 with the specific intent of subverting the will of the American people and trying to delegitimize President Trump's election and therefore everything that he had been charged to do by the American people over the next four years. So yes, this is a treasonous conspiracy that subverts the will of the American people over the next four years. So yes, this is a treasonous conspiracy that subverts the will of the American people because you look at the action, they manufactured a hoax, they manufactured these lies, published it as though it were true,

propagated this through the media to the American people. And then what happened next? The Mueller investigation, years long Mueller investigation was launched. You had two impeachments coming from Congress. You had a raid on President Trump's home in Mar-a-Lago by the FBI. You had smears and attacks and investigations

not only against President Trump, but against his family, his senior officials within his administration. You even saw the geopolitical impacts of this, where a whole sanctions package was passed against Russia by President Obama, specifically because of the thing that they claimed Russia did, but they actually didn't do in this case.

This was a lie that was concocted by President Obama and his senior national security officials. And this January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment is that foundation for everything that came after. And I just want to point out again, you know, I was in the White House press briefing room yesterday and reporters saying, well, do you believe this or do you believe that? This is not about Tulsi Gabbard's beliefs or opinions or even allegations.

Read the intelligence, read the evidence, read the emails from DNI Clapper's executive assistant to leaders within the intelligence community that says, per the president's directive and then going on and listing the taskings for this intelligence community assessment. I doubt many of those reporters have actually read the nearly 200 pages themselves like you have,

because anyone who is a little bit objective who would read that would draw the same view that you and I have, that the truth is very real and it's irrefutable. President Obama led this treasonous conspiracy with the help of a lot of folks in his national security cabinet and in the intelligence community.

Director Gabbard, we have to let you go. I just want to say we're cheering you on in the audience because we remember how nasty, how divisive, how unnecessary all that Russia stuff was. And now our involvement in a kinetic hot war against Russia could be probably traced back to Russiagate. Keep fighting. Stay brave, Director Gabbard. Thank you so much for your time. Thanks for all you do, Charlie. Thanks, everybody.

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watch any of the mainstream media outlets with a very trained eye and trained ear. She has never once contended that Russia tried to sow chaos in the 2016 election. Many countries and many of our adversaries, they just try to sow confusion or chaos. Iran does this, the Chinese Communist Party does this, they'll do this through hacking or social media work. But that's not the same thing as trying to elevate a specific candidate. That is where all the intel agencies and their proxies and their spokespeople and their mockingbird media propagandists peddled a lie. And that sort of nuance was undetectable in the mainstream media for quite some time. When James Comey and Brennan went up, they said, well, you know, Russia, as you know, here's this, and this is what they would do. It's such a sleight of hand. It's a Houdini. It's

a magician's trick. They hide the pocket ace so that you can't see it. It is a rhetorical and narrative sleight of hand where they say, well, as you know, we all agree that Russia tried to interfere with the election and they're so obviously Donald Trump was benefited by Russia. Smoke and mirrors, those are not the same thing. So what they did is they conflated a singular truth with something that is a complete lie.

And then they made the bridge. They say, oh, you know, Donald Trump likes autocratic dictators. So therefore he must like Vladimir Putin. There is this clip that we played yesterday of James Comey and John Brennan. It's kind of this combo clip. It's very important. So listen to this. This is just again, we could play hundreds of these pieces of tape.

This is the rhetorical media smoke and mirrors. Rachel Maddow fell for it. In fact, she was a chief propagandist of it, where they took a kernel of truth and they built a narrative mountain of lies. Play cut 365. The Russians interfered in our election during the 2016 cycle. It is a high confidence judgment of the entire intelligence community. It was Russia in a very systematic way

and tried to interfere in the election and to try to advance the prospects of Donald Trump being elected. Donald Trump knows that the Russians helped him win in 2016. There will always be an air of illegitimacy around the 2016 campaign. Okay, I have to compliment the studio team. That series of clips is the best. That is a 10 out of 10 series of clips. Let me tell you why. Because Comey is actually testifying

in a fact pattern that is real. He says, as you know, Russia interfered with the election. So they have that baseline fact pattern, but it wasn't even interference guys. It was Like a bunch of social media trolls and bots. They did not hack voting machines They did not manipulate stuff. So then you have that baseline. Call me This is why that clip is so important you transition to Brennan. The first part of Brennan's sentence is correct He says well the Russians interfered at the 2016 election The second part of the sentence is where you're getting into not just malpractice, but you're getting into some really immoral and dark stuff to help and advance the prospects of

Donald Trump becoming president. Not only was there no evidence, there was evidence to the contrary. Remember, John Brennan is the one who forced the inclusion of bad intelligence in the reports, per the House report that was declassified. And then you have the final part of the clip. Do you see how the lies bubble up from one kernel of truth when they don't get checked and regulated on cable TV to then Hillary Clinton tranquilized up saying, well, Donald Trump knows that the Russians helped him back in 2016.

Whoa. So we start with Comey saying something true for a change in front of Congress. Then Brennan adds that little subtext. Thanks to Rachel Maddow and all these other people that built the fable, the legend, the chronicle of Russia collusion to then Hillary Clinton just completely lie about it. You see, these lies are laundered through each other, often with unrelated truths. So they cook the books with intel, but they say something that starts to be true. They add a little bit of rhetorical flair on top of it with a very impressive biography.

I'm John Brennan, the former CIA director. And then boom, it seeps in and it changes American politics forever. And that's why that piece of tape is so important from Comey to Brennan to Clinton. You could see the growth, the evolution. You can see how it starts with something correct and grows into something that is a total and complete fabrication. Okay, I want to play this one more time for those of you guys on podcasting. Listen to it. Starts with Comey. Listen very carefully here. Comey starts with, well, we know that Russia interfered. You have to have a trained ear for this stuff. And then Brennan repeats the first part of what Comey says and adds his own little fake rhetorical flair that no intelligence supported. And then Hillary Clinton finishes the second part

of Brennan's sentence with her own thing saying Donald Trump knew about it. So it grows and it snowballs into this monstrosity of a falsehood. Play cut 365 again. The Russians interfered in our election during the 2016 cycle. It is a high-confidence judgment of the entire intelligence community. It was Russia, in a very systematic way, tried to interfere in the election and to try to advance the prospects of Donald Trump being elected. Donald Trump knows that the Russians helped him win in 2016. There will always be an air of illegitimacy around the 2016 campaign.

And there you have it. That's how your intel agencies work with orchestration, conspiracy, with collusion and in harmony. Per the House report, the claim that Trump wanted, the claim that Putin wanted Trump to win, was based on one fragment of a sentence, when in reality there was an overwhelming pile, an overwhelming plethora, an overwhelming amount of evidence to the exact 180 opposite contrary. We're not debating whether or not Russia tried to sow chaos in the 2016 election.

What we are now learning is that they were not doing anything to help Donald Trump. In fact, they had information that could have helped Donald Trump and they did not use it. Instead, they sat on the sidelines. There was no Russian interference on behalf of Trump, let alone Trump knowing about it. We got so far, we were even down the runway saying that Trump was directly communicating with Kremlin assets to help him, to help advance his prospects. The media is so complicit in this. And Hillary Clinton says, well, 2016 will always have this air of illegitimacy. That is pile of BS. She didn't visit Wisconsin and Michigan.

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I always liked him. He's fun. He was larger than life, but it was so interesting to see how many of the Trump staffers that are like 36, 37, 38 that I'm very close with. They were freaking out that Hulk Hogan was on property. They were calling in every favor imaginable to go get a picture of Hulk Hogan and to go selfie to the Hulk Hogan. Like we have to go meet Hulk Hogan was on property. They were calling in every favor, imagine we'll go get a picture of Hogan and to go and selfie to the Hogan like we have to go meet Hogan. He was a icon for so many young men in this country and in a world now that is just so toxically feminine, we're losing a outwardly

masculine, fun, magnanimous, cheerful Joyful icon that so many young men Looked up to his catchphrase was great in the 80s. It was very Americana train Say your prayers and eat your vitamins That's good advice for young men train So don't be fat Say your prayers There is a God and you are not him. Eat your vitamins. By the way, emphasis on eat your vitamins, which is eat good food.

Don't just eat this. He was maha before maha. Have a nice steak, maybe a little protein, healthy fats. And there you see their whole Kogan went and actively campaigned for president Trump and you did the crowds would just go wild. And one for President Trump and the crowds would just go wild. And one of the reasons why the crowds would go so wild is we didn't have many celebrities during the Trump campaign that would kind of go up on stage.

We had like five. And Hulk Hogan was like, that's an A-list celebrity. That is a guy that has a name idea in almost every single TV and every single family, every kitchen table across the country. One of my favorite moments though, and I got to play it, is cut 4-17. Hulk Hogan at the RNC endorsing President Donald Trump. I mean, this is as good as it gets. Play cut 4-17. What happened last week when they took a shot at my hero.

And they tried to kill the next president of the United States. Enough was enough. And I said, let Trump-a-mania run wild, brother. Let Trump-a-mania rule again. Let Trump-a-mania make America great again. What a great legacy that he left. That entire career. And let this be a lesson to all the other celebrities out there. Here we are remembering Hulk Hogan and he's going to be remembered for putting it on the line for his country.

He helped galvanize that muscular class that we always talk about. Now we have no idea how many votes that Hulk Hogan moved. But look, there's Hulk Hogan interviewing with Bret Baer on network TV on Fox News. And it's really promising to see, and it's really encouraging. I never had a chance to meet Hulk Hogan,

never had a chance to get to know him. But as we remember his life, he finished well. He would always talk about the country and how much he loved America. And he lived that out. He lived that out in his last months here on earth. So rest in peace to Hulk Hogan, an American legend. Never had a chance to meet you. Watch from afar. I'm going to read the caption of this video that's going viral.

Hulk Hogan was a genuine, uniquely American creation. Fearlessly original, flawed but unbowed. He had the courage to stand on his own principles, and he never stopped fighting for his country. An American icon, he will be missed. He stepped up when we needed him. He leaned in, And I know a lot of people are in a stage of mourning because for a lot of young people who's very youth-centric,

he was an icon and a well-deserved one because you look at the icons now that people are looking up to. You look at Nicki Minaj or Cardi B or what a much better icon. Eat your vitamins, say your prayers, train. It's a lot better than what you can fill in the blanks of all those degenerate rap lyrics. So Hulk Hogan, God bless you man and thank you for standing up for America. We will miss you and we sincerely appreciate the passion for America. I got to put this one up more on screen. This is a Donald Trump with Andre the giant and Hulk Hogan. Andre the giant did not, uh, did not live very long.

I always remember Andre the giant by the way, from princess bride. That's always that's the Andre the giant pole that I always have. That's kind of the most, uh, rewatch Princess Bride with my daughter. That would be a blast from the past. We lost Ozzy Osbourne and Hulk Hogan in one week. It's basically like Armageddon for Gen X pop culture this week. It's not good. But yeah, look at that picture.

That's Donald Trump with the championship belt with Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant. Of course, sympathies to the family. But, you know, 71, it's on the younger spectrum in today's time. Who knows what all that training and all that grinding of his body did to, you know, did to his life expectancy, but he lived a full life and I think that we should remember that I just want to repeat this point and I did not expect to talk about Hulk Hogan today, but more than happy to.

It is so tempting for these older celebrities to sit on the sidelines when their country is in peril. The easy thing is to go speak at the Democrat convention, like George Clooney or all these other people. What kind of legacy do you want to leave? And now we're remembering Hulk Hogan in the best possible light. He stepped up when we needed him. He didn't have to go to Trump rallies.

He didn't have to go to the RNC. He was well known. He had, quote unquote, plenty to lose. But did he know that he had a year left to live? Because it was about a year ago that it was the RNC, about a year and a week ago. And we remember him now precisely because he did the hard thing. Did you know that Hulk Hogan was also baptized just 18 months ago?

He said, quote, total surrender and dedication to Jesus is the greatest day of my life. No worries, no hate, no judgment, only love. We should make that clip go viral. Thank you for our team that forwarded that. Andrew, let's tweet that. So Hulk Hogan always wore crucifix and gave his life to Jesus in his last 18 months here on planet earth because this is not this is not our home Jesus said the kingdom is not of this world

And so I think we should all remember fondly A man who had a great mantra for young people and passion, phenomenal passion at all times. And he loved the nation. We need more celebrities like Hulk Hogan. Let me say that again. We need more celebrities like Hulk Hogan. Who are the Hulk Hogan equivalents in the year of 2025 that are just coming up that are role models for young men. I hope they can take a page out of Hulk Hogan's book that they can look and see that you should do hard things. You should step up for your country when it matters and most importantly, you should live with joy, with passion, with purpose, with energy, and give your life to Jesus Christ.

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Yesterday at the Washington DC AI Summit, President Trump appeared, but also J.D. Vance. Trump, AI czar, David Sachs, reunited with the co-host of his business podcast All In, and they interviewed J.D. Vance. In that interview, Vance had a lot to say about the tech industry and how it approaches immigration. Play cut 404. You see some big tech companies where they'll lay off 9,000 workers and then they'll apply for a bunch of overseas visas. And I sort of wonder, that doesn't totally make sense to me. The math doesn't. That displacement and that math worries me a bit.

And what the president has said, he said very clearly, we want the very best and the brightest to make America their home. We want them to build great companies and so forth. But I don't want companies to fire 9,000 American workers and then to go and say we can't find workers here in America. That's a story. What JD is saying is very important. The past six months, we've had a lot of focus on illegal immigration and we should. Biden betrayed the United States of America, and he let in 10 million people, minimum, including countless gangsters and criminals, and he gave them all welfare. We need to undo that damage, and we need mass deportations and not amnesty. We're going to get to that cut in a second.

But first, we need to talk about legal immigration, because legal immigration has done significant damage to the homeland and to Americans. Ilan Omar is a legal immigrant. Zoran Mamdani is a legal immigrant. Omar Fattah, the Somali socialist running for the mayor of Minneapolis, is the child of legal immigrants. America's massive refugee problem are legal immigrants.

But we need to ask ourselves how many of these refugees ever return home. And if they ever do, how many of these refugees are their children ever improve America, every legal immigration, even legal immigration changes our culture, it gradually makes America a less cohesive society. It makes parts of America feel like a foreign country or basically a foreign country. In the tech world, the H-1B visa scam has become an infamous tool for driving down wages and driving out American workers. H-1B visa is supposed to be for companies to fill specialist jobs. They simply cannot hear

in America. It's supposed to pay more than American jobs do, but in reality it's become an infamous tool as replacing Americans. Sound familiar? Our immigration policies are all about replacing, replacing the demographic profile and replacing the jobs that Americans would otherwise have. Some of the biggest H-1B recipients are companies like Infosys, and they're just IT firms. Plenty of Americans are capable of doing it. Now, if you want another sign that H1Bs are not being used properly, just look at what countries get them. We're not hiring talent from all over the world. Instead, the overwhelming share of H1Bs, about 75% go to only one country, India.

That should be a big red flag. The system has shifted from bringing talented people into America to reality of probably help as many people from one specific country come into the United States. Right now H-1Bs are allotted by lottery for any companies that meet bare minimum threshold. If this was really about getting the best of the best, an easy improvement would be to simply auction them off. Whoever is paying the highest salary gets the visa. That means only the most valuable people are getting them. Even if H1B employees get higher salaries, they often attractive, they're attractive

to employers because their visas are tied to their jobs. As a result, it's a lot harder for them to hop another company or go to another company looking for higher pay. So even if they're starting salaries or higher, they can rise lower and they're easier to manage. These are kind, these are just another kind of examples of the legal immigration scams out there. For example, did you know the federal government has a special visa called the U visa that is available to people who are victims of crimes in America? It's supposedly so they can help police, but plenty of them just end up sticking around indefinitely. And of course, it's already become a big vector for fraud. Just a few days ago,

a police in Louisiana were charged with taking bribes to invent fake crimes that Indians could claim U visas and move to America. The essence of all this is very important, which is we are told that H-1B visas make us richer and make us wealthier. When in reality, we're firing American workers, 9,000 of them, and then we're going to go replace them with foreign workers so that you have to then go train your replacement. It's time for us to end the H1B visa scam? Why should major tech companies with trillions of dollars of market cap not pay American workers when they are able to bring in foreigners to replace Americans while they are accomplishing record profits? When you have record profits, when you are having record productivity, you owe it to the nation that has given you that productivity to hire

those workers first, not fire 9,000 of them and hire their foreign replacements. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.