The Charlie Kirk Show - What Was No Kings Even About?

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

The same party that made Kamala Harris a nominee without a single vote and which sabotaged Bernie Sanders's presidential runs is now very worried about America being ruled by a king. Also, why were the protesters so old and so lame? Charlie reacts, joined by citizen journalist Nate Friedman who embedded with protesters in New York. Then, Blake offers Daisy and other members of Gen Z a basic Q&A about Iran. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!   Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com! Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments.com. That is noblegoldinvestments.com. It's where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegoldinvestments.com. This last weekend was the no kings protest. No kings, they say. It's funny. They weren't doing no kings protests when the most authoritarian thing of all happened in our country the last 30 years, when the entire nation was locked down by Democrat governors and we are forced to take an mRNA gene altering vaccine against our will. And I was not allowed to visit the city of New York or Los Angeles without show me your papers, a vaccine passport.

No Kings, they say. It's funny when American military members were kicked out of the U.S. military because they would not take the COVID shot. The same party that selected and appointed Kamala Harris as the candidate with no election, no process like a Zoom call, thinks Trump is a king. The same party that prevented Bernie Sanders from becoming the nominee in 2016 and partially 2020 thinks that Trump is a king. Now, no honest person looks at the situation and thinks that Trump is a dictator unless, of course, you are part of the resist AARP crowd. You see, it's very interesting. Besides the purple haired jihadis and the rank-and-file stormtroopers of the left, look at that picture here from the No Kings protest. It looks old. It's kind of like the last gasp of the liberal boomer. Not all boomers are liberals. Not all boomers are liberals. We got great boomers in this audience, but look at that audience. That is an almost all white elderly crowd. Not that it matters what color of the skin that they are, but it's kind of interesting. But they're the ones who whine all the time. If

anything is too white, they say Turning Point chapter meetings are too white. Turning Point USA college events are too white. I thought diversity was your strength. You guys don't have any age diversity, racial diversity, cultural diversity. Again, I'm not the diversity police. I don't care if you want to have an all-white gathering. Who am I to say? But somebody who was on the front lines of the No Kings protest this last weekend and did a fabulous job is Nate Friedman, host of the Nate Friedman show, independent journalist. You can find them at YouTube at Nate Friedman 97. Saw a great clip of his that I do want to play. But first, Nate, welcome to the program and please introduce yourself. Thank you so much, Charlie. Yeah, my name is Nate Friedman. I'm an independent

journalist, boots on the-the-ground journalist. And yeah, I speak to people on the street and just get to know what's really going on in this country. And so you were at the No Kings protest, and you started—you did this very powerful video that I hope we have queued up somewhere, where—let's play it. 296, where you identified some of these protesters do this for a living play cut 296 here's my press credentials okay thank you okay so who are you with uh i'm i'm uh right now i'm representing myself and i'm representing uh the folks at rise and resist who have been trained to be marshals how much how much do they pay you to wear this vest? Absolutely nothing. Really? So I did some digging and the woman trying to stop my interview is named Karen Shaw.

She is a professional protester. I found her at almost 100 different protests. Let's look at her portfolio, shall we? Here's her outside Trump Tower saying TikTok time's up. Here's her saying ban guns, not drag. Amazing. This is her telling us that lies have consequences. She is also very passionate about abortion. Even in the video right now, she's just wearing a hat that says abortion on it. Nate, she's made a career out of this. Yeah. Yeah. This is her second job, actually. So she's an associate director at Lincoln Center in New York City, which is a very prominent theater. It's a beautiful theater, but she's an associate director at Lincoln Center in New York City, which is a very prominent theater. It's a beautiful theater.

But she's all over the country, touring the country, protesting. And I just knew that that was going to be the case because no one behaves like that for free. I just refused to believe that. Yeah. And so you kept on, let's just say, your research. You kept on examining it. And there's a whole group of these paid protesters. Is that correct? That's right.

That's right. Yeah. And I've met them personally and dealt with them personally. Tell us more. Yeah. So when I went to the takedown Tesla protest, almost immediately upon getting there, an older woman comes up to me and has a right wing troll arrow and follows me around the protest. Now, I hadn't even interviewed anyone up until that point. You know, I had asked someone

for an interview, but I wasn't granted one yet. And then she comes along and she follows me and asks everyone I speak to, to not talk to me. And that same arrow is that the no kings protest the printed the exact same way. And so the original older woman that I spoke to at the Tesla protest, I found her at, you know, 20, 30 different protests. 20 or 30. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And then all over the country to DC blocking the Capitol, stopping senators in the cafeteria, the whole the whole deal. Then two more people come along and I see that they're teammates actually, that all the time they're in pictures together. It's all in the Tesla takedown video. And so they all behave the same way. They're all telling each other like this,

don't speak to him, don't speak to him. And what's funny is they eat their own. So someone wants to speak. They say, I don't care who Nate is. I want to have a conversation. They say, no, no, no, don't have a conversation. So you see them disagreeing with each other. And it's just, it's crazy because, you know, the left lost the election. So they should know that in order to win back votes, you have to have conversations with the other side. The other side won, right?

So it's interesting. Let's go to 279. This is at an ICE protest where he has a sign that says, I stand with Iran. He seems like a pleasant person. Play cut 279. Hey, how you doing? My name is Nate. I'm just impressed. And you have a different kind of sign. Can you tell me about it? Sure. My sign says I stand with Iran. They don't have a nuke. They never would want to nuke America ever, ever, ever. I've been to Iran. And what about the Supreme Leader of Iran saying, like, death to America? Is that just like words?

Well, that's part of our propaganda. In the case of when we get married in America, it's not a good thing. So, Nate, who is this guy? he doesn't seem like a spring chicken yeah so funny thing about this so i had to get this video i wanted to get this video out to my audience as fast as possible i later did find him at like six or seven different protests with this you know veterans association that he's with um but this guy he did speak to me for over 10 minutes and i have to i always have respect for the people I'm interviewing. They are granting me an interview.

They're willing to speak. That's great. But I did, he did lie every two to three minutes. One of the biggest lies was that Hamas is, that Iran is not funding terrorism. And I just said, there's literally videos of Hamas thanking Iran for money. I mean, so it's quite interesting how they just don't listen to facts. And then when I asked them, where's their source of news? Where did he get his source of news? He said, Iranian media. So there you go. Well, Iranian media is having a tough week. So Nate, how did you get your start here? Sure. So I got my start around the NATO summit of last year when Biden

called Zelensky Putin. I thought I just couldn't stay on the sidelines anymore. I thought, okay, this is the national security risk. This person is obviously not running our country. So I was just curious, are people out on the street going to vote for him again. And I let each side talk. I wanted to hear from both sides. And I really just felt very passionate about having those conversations because polls are one thing, you know, but it doesn't give the country an idea of why are people voting for certain people. So I figured if I just let if I just let people talk, then people will make up their own minds of what's the best person to vote for. Stay right there, Nate Friedman. You are part of an ever-growing community of young, dissident journalists. This is what Andrew Breitbart wanted to see this entire time.

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What are you trying to do? Is it filming? No, yeah. Film me, man. This is amazing. What song is that? We're going to push you on YouTube. It sounds good.

So she gets paid to go do this. I have a question. Do you have any idea who is financing this? Yes. So she works for a company called Rise and Resist. So there are many nonprofits like this. So there's like Jewish Voices for Peace. There are many nonprofits that are funding this.

And it goes all the way to the top. I'm still digging in, but their donation links are to ActBlue. So it gives you a starting idea of who's behind this. Yeah. And so when you went to these protests, I'm sure there were a fair amount of young people, but it does skew older, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah, it definitely does. And I met an older woman wearing a make Mexico America again hat. And she was in her 70s and just such a hatred for America. It's really sad to see that. It's ironic that this is a no kings protest and they're all freely chanting against the king. You know, it just doesn't make any sense. You should. So, yeah. But so the coverage, what city did you cover this last week for the protests?

So this was New York City. in LA got very unruly. This is obviously choreographed, obviously financed. I know you've not been doing this for quite some time, but you have good talent to be able to get in there and they're going to come after you anytime. And are they starting to recognize you? Yeah. So unfortunately, so for example, when Trump Tower was occupied, I asked a question and I asked one of the leaders of the protest, first of all, oftentimes I'll try to speak to someone and they'll say, go and speak to our media person. They won't think independently for themselves. They'll just tell me to go speak to another person. So I speak to a person and I say, you know, is Trump a dictator? And they won't,

they refuse to answer because they know that if Trump were a dictator, they wouldn't let mass amount of people occupy his wife and son's home, right? So they start to recognize me and I see this woman who works for this company called Jewish Currents, which is a magazine company that often works with Jewish Voices for Peace, which is a far left radical group, does not speak for the Jewish people, very anti-Zionist, and actually celebrated, you know, October 7th. And you can see that it's paid for because this woman who's the leader of this protest, the only one that I'm qualified to speak to, so-called, she is working for this Jewish Currents magazine, and she's just there in the middle of the day, right? So that's just an example of what sort of happens.

And also I went to a protest recently, one of those anti-ice ones, and these guys in cafeas, they're masked up, sunglasses, everything, and they walk up to me, they take a photo of my press ID. And I say, do you wanna ask me anything? Do you wanna speak to me?

No, you've got nothing to hide, right? You're pressed. And they just take photos of me and walk away. So, yeah, it's not nice to have guys with cafeas walk up to you and take photos of your press ID. But that's what I'm willing to risk when I'm out there in the field. And so in closing here, you as a young man, I'm guessing you're Jewish. Is that correct? Yeah, that's right.

And so this takes a lot of chutzpah for you to go out into the streets and you kind of see the protests. And what have you learned about the radical left that you wish other Americans and liberal Jews would know? best president of all time for Jewish people. It's very, very clear. He's so good to Israel. He moved the embassy to Jerusalem. His daughter converted to Judaism. He loves the Jewish people. And he brought many hostages home. It's remarkable. And that alone should be enough. Bringing those people home should be enough. And he said he was going to do it, and he did. So that's what I wish liberal Jews would understand that Trump is the best president for Jews. Really quick, we're running out of time. How can people support your channel and follow what you do and keep on doing it, Nate? We want to work with you at Turning Point USA. Frontline's grassroots journalism is the salvation of a free society. Please. Absolutely. Nate Friedman, 97 on YouTube. I speak to everybody on the street. I

speak to both sides. I never show bias on the street. I speak to both sides. I never show bias in the interviews. I speak to both sides and just let you make your judgment of what you believe. Very good. Nate, thank you so much. God bless you. Talk to you soon. Thank you.

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Go to YRefi.com. That is Y-R-E-F-I.com. Hello there. I'm producer Blake. This is producer Daisy. Hi. Charlie had to head out a bit early to get to D.C. So we thought we could do a slightly different segment. People have been hearing a lot of news over the last few weeks. They've been hearing a lot about mullahs and bunker busting bombs and nuclear programs and countries on the far side of the world. And we know a lot of our viewers are younger people. They're members of Gen Z.

They may not know all the background to this and so we thought it'd be a fun segment to have one of our producers who is a gen z-er daisy join us i'm i'm a millennial shamefully 25 and proud so we heard that song which that was a song which i had i hadn't heard that until today that is a song from right after 9-11 and you know it says da Daisy do you know the difference between Iraq and Iran? Yes as in I know they're two different countries but I would be lying if I said I didn't think they were extremely similar like from my knowledge they're both Muslim countries in the Middle East. Yeah so we'll start there so they're both Muslim countries in the

Middle East and they are in fact right next to each So they're both Muslim countries in the Middle East, and they are, in fact, right next to each other. I don't know if you guys want to grab a map of the Mideast really quick, but so you have Iraq as a country. We invaded it in 2003, so 22 years ago, and we invaded it.

It was run by a guy named Saddam Hussein. You know who Saddam was, right? Yes, and he was killed. Yes, he was executed, actually. So they put him on trial. He was a bad dude. He was a dictator. He did.

Like, he killed a lot of his own people. He was like your prototypical strongman. Was he killed by us? So technically, we put him through a trial for bad things that he had done. He was sentenced to death, and then he was hanged. And I think the Iraqi government technically hanged him because it was a somewhat sordid affair. There was video of it.

It was kind of disturbing to watch. We won't go into that. Well, I don't remember hearing about Saddam Hussein. I do remember, and it's a running thing on TikTok that everyone my age has memories of not knowing who Osama bin Laden was, but being somewhere and your parents freaking out that Osama bin Laden was, but being somewhere and your parents freaking out that Osama bin Laden was killed.

And there's a whole running joke on X and on TikTok that people used to think that that was someone that they knew in their lives who was killed. Oh, oh, wow. Yeah. I remember where I was when I found out he was killed. I don't know who he was. Did you think?

Did you ever think? No, I mean, my parents were hardcore Republicans, so I knew he was a bad guy. They were clearly excited. They were very excited that he was killed. Okay. So, yeah. So, Iraq and Iran, different countries. They border each other.

They're similar in a few ways. So, you've heard of Islam, of course. Right. Do you know there's two major types of Islam? Yes. They both start with S's. One is radical and one is not radical. No, they are.

Oh, if only it were that simple, Daisy. That was so genuine. So there's the main type of Islam is called Sunni Islam. That is what most Muslims are worldwide. And in fact, it's most Muslim terrorists are Sunni. So the guys who the guys who did 9-11 were Sunnis. OK. But I don't want to say that's the terrorist one because there's a billion Sunni Muslims out there.

So Egypt is Sunni. Saudi Arabia is Sunni. Afghanistan is mostly Sunni. Iran is Shia. And that is the other type of Islam. And Iraq is also majority Shia, but it's mixed. So it was, I want to say, about 60% Shia and like 30% Sunni. And they also had a Christian minority and some other stuff.

When you say these countries are Shia or Sunni, is that like everyone in the country has to? In Iran, almost everybody is Shia. They do have other minorities, very small, but it is mostly Shia. Now, what that means is they often are in conflict with all the other countries in the middle east because they have religious differences with them uh and they just have somewhat they're in conflict with the other muslim countries because often often over that and other reasons okay uh and on top of that shia islam has some interesting beliefs uh so i mentioned the 9-11 guys were Sunnis, but Shia Islam has a particular emphasis on martyrdom as a heroic thing.

It's kind of a big, it's a religion centered around this early Muslim figure named Ali, and that he died in a civil war between some early Muslims, and they think Ali was the best, and he was killed by them. And that's kind of their difference with Sunnis, is they're still litigating a civil war from 1,500 years ago. And so there's that. And they also have a very interesting belief. You'll hear them called the Twelver Shias. So they believe there were a series of imams,

that's like a chief kind of an Islamic teacher. You'll hear imam used to just describe a normal Islamic cleric, but this is like a chief kind of an islamic teacher uh you'll hear a mom used to just describe a normal islamic cleric but this is like a kind of super imam basically and they believe that there were 12 of them so there were 11 who kind of there have been 12 historically and then the 12th one died but they kind of i believe the belief is they think he's like in hiding like he's still alive and he will return he's like a messianicic figure. So Shia Islam is a messianic version of Islam where they think this 12th Imam is going to reveal himself. He'll be called the Mahdi. So there are multiple instances of a person proclaiming themselves to be the Mahdi as like an apocalyptic figure.

And wow, we're going way down the rabbit hole of this. Okay, well, so my next question, and this is, again, just what I'm seeing from a Gen Z perspective. All the two different types of Muslims, do they both dislike Israel? They both dislike the Jewish religion? There are plenty. I don't want to say, again, not all of them think this, but both Sunnis and Shias have a long history of conflict with Israel. So, for example, Israel had multiple wars with Egypt, Sunni country. They had multiple wars.

I mean, Hamas, that's a mostly Sunni group. However, Iran despises Israel. So, you know, they call us the great Satan. They call Israel the little Satan. Another group that Israel fights against, you've maybe heard of, Hezbollah. Yes. Hezbollah is a Shia militant group that occupies southern Lebanon. So there are Shias in Lebanon, too.

Hezbollah is a Shia group. So Hamas. Yes. Which, where does it? Hamas is a radical group that controls Gaza. Right. And they are a Palestinian radical Islamist group. They are mostly Sunni. In fact, I think they might just be exclusively. OK, that was my question.

So Iran and Iraq, we're talking about how similar they are. Are they allies or they're just similar to people who don't live in the similar people? They were hostile to each other historically. So Saddam Hussein, he his country was mostly Shia. Saddam was Sunni and he wasn't really a religious figure to the same extent, but his base was Sunnis. And so it was kind of a country where the Sunni minority was running things over the Shia majority. So he was hostile towards Iran. So to show you how complicated it is, we invadedaq to overthrow uh overthrow saddam in the 1980s we gave weapons to saddam or i'm not sure we gave him we gave some form of support to saddam because he invaded iran and we were anti-iran and we're okay so are a lot of people anti-iran yes a lot of people are

anti-iran so that's part of where this is complicated. So obviously we have, at this point, 45 years of antagonism with Iran. Have you ever heard of the Iranian hostage crisis? Yes. So yes, that was the big thing in the Middle East. In fact, that was the biggest story in America, if you were around in 1980, was the hostages in Iran. I wasn't around, but I've heard of it. So what happened was Iran had a monarchy.

They overthrew him, and he was replaced by this Islamic government. They're led by a guy called the Ayatollah. And Ayatollah is kind of just a supreme Islamic cleric title. So do you have Israel and Iran also had a long history of conflict, or it's just the nuclear threat the weapon threat so that is making it they don't Israel wants to go after Iran as you can see if you look at them they don't border each other so between them there's Jordan then Iraq then Iran so there's several hundred miles away so there's not a lot of ability to directly fight each other

and historically there hasn't been so recently Iran's been shooting missiles at Israel. That wasn't a thing they were doing 20 years ago. But there's hostility in other ways. What Iran sort of pioneered was they would sponsor terrorist groups in other countries or militant groups. So, for example, Hezbollah, who I mentioned. Hezbollah has directly fought Israel. Hezbollah has definitely received assistance from Iran. They've received training. They've received money. They've received weapons. They've received

moral support. So it's like proxy wars. So the same way that we give weapons to Ukraine so Ukraine can fight against Russia, Iran has done that against Israel in many cases. You've heard about the Houthis lately? Yes. So the Houthis are in yet another country in the Middle East, Yemen. They've also received support from Iran over time. Okay. So is it that Iran has less allies, more just common, or people have common enemies with Iran? So they have allies, but their allies are non-state actors.

So a militant group or an ethnic group rather than – they don't really have allies who are – A similar acting party to what Hamas would be. Yeah, exactly. Stuff like that. You'll hear China as an ally of Iran. It's much more like China just like selling things to whoever. So we sanction Iran. We try to crush their economy.

China doesn't care as much about that. So they're willing to So we sanction Iran. We try to crush their economy. China doesn't care as much about that. So they're willing to have trade with Iran. And maybe to the extent that they see Iran as our rival, they might even support them a bit as, oh, you know, America's hostile to us, the enemy of my enemy. But they're not an ally in the way like the U.S. and Israel are allies, where there's a lot of direct assistance. So Israel choosing to go after Iran. I have two questions. I don't know if we'll have time to get to them both in this segment. But one, I have heard you talk about how Israel has been discussing this threat for a while,

which I didn't know. And I don't know that everyone my age or just my knowledge of Middle East conflict would know that. So I want you to explain that a little bit more. But secondly, when Israel chooses to go after Iran, is there anyone specific that they're worried about retaliating against them on behalf of Iran or just these militaristic groups? Yeah. So the first one, yeah, it's been, I would say, so Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel, he's been prime minister before. He's been a politician in Israel a long time. He's been warning about Iran's nuclear program literally since the 90s.

In the 90s, he was saying they're a few years away from getting a bomb. You heard a bit of this in the 2000s. In 2002, George W. Bush gave a State of the Union address where he declared three countries the axis of evil. Iraq was one of them. North Korea was one of them. And then Iran was the third one. So there's been concern, oh, Iran might try to get nukes or WMDs, weapons of mass destruction. TikTok has helped U.S. businesses contribute over $24 billion for the U.S. economy. And we go so viral on TikTok, we get billions and billions of views. You see, that's real money flowing into small businesses like AZ Taco King, who went viral on TikTok and hit $1.3 million in sales in their first year.

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and on The Charlie Kirk Show, large in part thanks to us getting the message out at TikTok. Go to tiktokeconomicimpact.com. Daisy, I thought maybe I should ask you a question. We'll see how alert Gen Z is. Name one city in Iran. For sure. OK. Tehran. You got it. You got it. Do you know what that city is? No, I only know I would not have known that a week it. Do you know what that city is? No, I only know. I would not have known that a week ago.

I only know about it because that's the one that Trump was truthing about. That is good enough. That is good enough. That is the capital of Iran. I could not name a second city. It's actually quite large. It's about, I want to say it's about the size of New York City. It's one of the largest cities in the world. It's in this like bleak lunar City. It's one of the largest cities in the world. It's in this bleak lunar landscape.

It runs very mountainous. So you have lots of desert, lots of mountains, not always a lot of vegetation. But big city. It's a big country. I think there's about 90 million people there. Oh, my gosh. Just for comparison. I would have never guessed that.

The more you know. Seriously. I guess we still have a minute here so i could finish that uh you know close the loop on what we were saying about uh netanyahu it really ramped up i want to say about 2013 2014 you started getting a lot more agitation certainly from netanyahu's and on israel's end where they're saying we have intelligence iran is trying to build a nuclear bomb they're they're getting we have intelligence iran is trying to build a nuclear bomb they're they're getting closer to it and this is one of the reasons there's so much debate about

this is he did frequently frame it in this oh they're six months away from getting it done they're in that they would call this the breakout period where they would get so close like we couldn't stop them from getting the bomb and they made this warning a lot so people who are skeptical of a war with iran one reason they're skeptical is they'll say, oh, we keep hearing these warnings that Iran's close to a bomb, but we've heard that before. Like the Israel who cried wolf about Iran. Sort of. That would be the argument for it. I mean, their argument is like kind of, but now they say for real.

So when they were doing the strikes, they were saying we had evidence they were, you know, days or weeks away from being able to build a nuclear bomb send it at israel next question daisy okay so i briefed this question in the last segment um is there when israel you've been telling me that israel has been talking about this for years that there is a threat from Iran. And when Israel chose to do the strike, is there any country or what you've been telling me, military groups in specific that they were worried would retaliate specifically against Israel? Well, the specific one they'd worry the most about is Iran. So those proxy groups that I mentioned, they've already had a lot of conflict with Israel. So Hezbollah, they've fought them before. They haven't, they've done a little bit

of skirmishing even just since 10-7 for example. There would be some worry that if they get into an all-out war with Iran that that might escalate and Hezbollah could get really heavily involved. So far they haven't. I think a big reason they haven't is Israel has shown they're far more gung-ho about they're willing to take out a lot of people.

They I think they're kind of scared. I think some of Hezbollah's leaders are thought, yeah, I'd rather not die right now. And because they're not necessarily strong allies with Iran, are a lot of people just kind of like, well, they're strong allies. Iran, you got it. People have a survival instinct. And so there are places that are allied with Iran, but they won't necessarily want to think, I am ready to kill myself to show solidarity with Iran. And if it looks like the U.S. and Israel are, well, I should say Israel and possibly the U.S. are saying, this time we're serious about it. We're taking out this regime or at least hitting them very hard, they can think, I would rather stand aside from this one. This is getting too hot to handle.

Do you think, we briefly touched on this about how Israel has, some people would say that Israel has been talking about this threat for so long that they never thought it was going to actualize and Israel was actually going to do something about it. Do you think that Iran felt that way, that Israel would never actually, they've been talking about this since 2013? That's part of it. They were genuinely, it seems they were genuinely caught off guard by it. And that's been one of the funnier things about this.

Which doesn't, even from my perspective, it doesn't feel like that happens that often anymore. Yeah. It's actually truly jarring. So one of the things that you may remember they did is in their opening strikes, they didn't just hit air bases or nuclear plants. They took out leaders of Iran's military. And no one is invulnerable.

But there's this element of where they these guys were not prepared to possibly be hit. They didn't have a secure location because one of the guys they just took out. They blew out an apartment block in Tehran. Right. Why are you in an apartment block in tehran right and so it seems that they were genuinely there's been a lot of chatter about this it seems they were caught off guard by this immediately beforehand we'd been talking about oh another round of negotiations trump was saying oh we're gonna meet in oman another yet another Middle Eastern country, to do negotiations. And it seems that they just assumed, oh, we're at least good through those negotiations. We don't have to worry about strikes.

And they greatly miscalculated on that front. OK. So we kind of briefly touched on this, Charlie did, with Nate earlier. And he was talking about the No Kings protests. I'm not understanding how they're, and we only have a no kings protest i'm not understanding how they're and we only have a minute left i'm not understanding how people are at the no kings protest against trump against ice and not it used to be like last year americans were so proudly pro gaza they want to go to gaza they want to live there they love it now it seems all of a sudden and i don't know if it's

just because they don't have enough information or it's just what they're told to support. Now they're, I mean, we just have these people being super gung-ho about Iran. They support Iran. They want Iran to be able to do whatever they want. I'm not sure how that's connecting with the no kings protest. It doesn't. What you see, I mean, this is just how the left is generally. The left all causes blob together over time.

So you see Palestine flags at your anti-ice protest. You see BLM tweets out pro-Hamas stuff after the 10-7 attacks. That is, that's left, which I think you are plenty familiar with, even if you don't know

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