The Charlie Kirk Show - What Went Right in Arizona, and Left Everywhere Else

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

What are the takeaways from Election Day 2025? Tyler, Andrew, and Blake dissect all of the key races that went to the Democrats last night, plus a small underrated win for Turning Point in Arizona. What caused Republican turnout to slump one year after the 2024 win, and what can we expect with a newly-elevated socialist, Muslim mayor in New York City? Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's the day after what was largely a very lackluster, I would say dispiriting evening. But no, let's just not, let's just rip the Band-Aid off. It was bad.

It was bad. We got whacked in the races. It didn't go well. It didn't go well. And there's it's only code. to say that oh these were blue states i i mean i think i think there is some truth to that i think you could overreact because again this is new jersey it's virginia but the truth is is that we did worse than we did in 2021 okay in these in these places so it was a step it was a step back uh and we need to be we need to be honest about that and acknowledge that i'm joined by

blake neff and tyler boyer co-o of turning point action uh there was one bright spot there was a there was a okay listen there was actually a few maybe bright spots one extraordinarily bright spot and that was here in mesa arizona and the turning point action team led the charge on that the grassroots rose up and and ousted in a in a really difficult scenario uh spillsbury who was the republicans for camilla leader in the state of arizona so tyler boyer why don't you tell us the back story there yeah i mean this is this was covered by the new york times um i'm dropping in the chat if we want to throw it up. Politico brought this up. This is a huge race. So essentially what happened was the face of Republicans for Kamla. So you want to talk about Soros type funded ventures. You had this

entire mind F, whatever you want to call it, that happened in 2020 and 2024, where they funded these fake Republicans for Biden and then Republican later became Republicans. Republicans for Harris or conservatives for Harris and all the key swing states. So the face of this organization in many ways was the mayor of Mesa, Arizona. His name was John Giles. He got termed out, and so it was done this last year. And his former vice mayor, Julie Spilsberry, who both were LDS, both were Mormon, and they were running as the face of this national operation that was abandoned Trump

if you're a Republican and vote against him in 2024. He spoke at the D&C. She was very vocal. She was on advertisements, you know, with, you know, espousing, you know, her elected position that she should be trusted. And this is like, Alinsky Tactics 101, is use all these things to try to persuade kind of the more feeble voter, the people that don't know as well. much going on and saying, oh, everybody's voting against Trump, and so therefore I should too.

All right. So what are the lessons here from this local race that we can extrapolate to the national scene? So this is the heart of the, I mean, these types of sciops, some people call them, these type of these type of things that happen with in politics are at the heart of how they control the narrative around these elections. So we ran or we didn't run it. The grassroots ran it. we supported it fully was removing this person from office to recall or remove someone from office is one of the most difficult things that you can do within politics but this is so important to do when people try to run these type of operations and it was hard work you have to go out recruit all of the people to do it you have to collect the petitions and then ultimately win

the election this lady last year the significance of this in arizona this is one of the biggest cities in america it's like top 35 cities this is actually maricopa is like the fifth largest metro area all all in not i know not mesa specifically but people need to understand how big this it's the fourth largest metropolitan area in the country and it's and uh the phoenix metro area so phoenix mesa is usually how it's referred to is the most conservative out of the big metro area so this is like target number one for the democrats to topple the democrats want to turn maricopa county blue for obvious reasons they we all know all the uh hanky-panky that's gone on with elections and everything else that's getting somewhat corrected uh not fully as what we'd like but getting in

there this is the target prime target number one and so this is why they choose people like this to lead the face of these type of operations and this is why it's so important to remove these people from office because it's the heart of it they would recruit a more a Mormon to do this too so i just want to like i want to crystallize this for everybody this is a recall election where it's an r versus an r that's the toughest type of election to educate a population that's kind of checked out it's an off cycle off your election that you see which are am i choosing right and so you have to then do the grassroots work the door knocking in order to get this over the top and because one one this is how they do it right so one is like a a fraudulent republican that's that has the backing of all

the Democrats. It's a Republican for Kamala. Yeah, it's all the backing of all the Democrat Party. So basically to win this election, you have to overcome the establishment. Some people refer it to as the Unipart Party. And then you have to also tackle the Democrat Party. Yeah. Because they're not going to run a Democrat in this district because it's so conservative. So they're putting a wolf and sheep's clothing to come and do this in a place like Mesa. Yeah. And because they're trying to flip Mesa. Yeah. Like over time, they want to make Mesa blue and so they've they've they've been fairly successful at this in years past and uh you're basically even in a place where it's 60% Republican that's that's like this district this district's

like 50 55 60% Republican but again it's like 30 plus percent 40% Democrat you have to again win basically all the Republicans educate all the Republicans to vote against her so so yesterday that was the huge bright spot was this leader this was a national leader in a swing state a national leftist leader in a swing state let me just back that up there was axios there was politico there was new york times they were all out here on a on a city council race following everything following everything the calling everybody like harassing everybody on the team trying to make this a national referendum because what they were hoping was that we were going to fail and that that julie spillsbury was going to be reelected

and we're going to see, oh, this is another referendum on Trump. Well, it didn't work out that way. And turning point action, I mean, hat tip to you guys. You guys were on this from the jump. I mean, it was spearheaded by the grassroots, right? And people were like, well, why are you getting so involved? It's like, well, listen, our grassroots wants to be involved in this. We're going to have their backs.

We're going to be a voice for the grassroots in a muscular class. We're not going to let this just go unnoticed and unresolved here. So, yeah, of course we're going to support the grassroots. And of course, it's also, this is, I mean, this is Charlie cared a lot about making Phoenix and Arizona as conservative as Republican as possible of course well you have to do look at how they react

Politico has a headline a few days ago this is like the first test of turning point as an actual muscle in politics you have to Blake in order just to flip the state because if where as Phoenix goes the Phoenix metropolitan area goes Arizona goes

as Arizona goes statistically the presidency goes so when people don't realize this is that these things are so critical because if you lose them, it gives, it emboldens the left to spend millions more dollars in your swing state to win the next big election. Today, the Democrats woke up going, wow, they mean business. Maybe we shouldn't invest the millions more dollars into that state next election cycle because it's not worth it. We need to come up with a different strategy to win in 2028.

That is exactly what we want them to do. Well, if you run the models, it's like, what is it, like 70% of the Democrat models to win a nationwide presidential race go through Arizona. That's right. So if you break the back of the Democrat party in this state, you demoralize them, and you let them know, like, hey, there's a new sheriff in town. We're not going to be messed with, and we're going to pour a ton of resources and manpower into this state. Well, guess what? Their models get a lot trickier, a lot more difficult. And so that's why we're, we are not going anywhere in the state of Arizona.

As a matter of fact, Tyler, it's safe to say, we are doubling, tripling down in the state. future that's right and and we have more on this i think we should share some of these videos yeah well we it's going to be pretty great uh yeah we could do uh let's go 290 290 real quick yeah look i people are always saying that they wish they had better candidates that would run for office i don't think that's true because when good people run for office just because i want to serve my community and then this is what happens to me why would anyone want to run when you have groups like turning point that can go out there and put up thousands of signs. Too bad. So sad.

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This is Julie Spilsberry claiming that turning points huge and that we bust in a bunch of like ballot chase or something? 292. Turning points huge. They're a national organization. They have a ton of money. They have a ton of volunteers. There were probably 30 volunteers at the polling place today.

tons of people were flown in from out of state lots of people told me that people knocked on their door that weren't even from Arizona how do I fight that how do I fight that and the recall would never have been successful without turning points employees over 30 of them out knocking doors that are not from Mesa I mean thank you for the ad I live in Mesa Julie I mean she already knows that she she she was trying to tell all her friends that yeah I'm a good person and why's Tyler going out we had all of these people that were knocking doors are all our our Arizonans we've got dozens of staff hired and hired up for Mesa not just for the Mesa recall but also for the upcoming SRP and Andy Biggs election and so but yeah I mean you can't

have a better ad than that the vast majority the libs the libs saying journey points too big and they know what they're doing too well I know it's a great it's a great clip let's let's let's turn our attention because that was a huge feather in the cap of turning point action here in Arizona but let's turn our attention to new hampshire so tell us what happened in new hampshire there in berlin right yeah there's a special election in new hampshire new hampshire has extremely small state house seats i think they have the largest per capita yeah they have the most per capita they have i think the third largest legislature of any kind in the english speaking world. It's like the House of Commons,

the House of Representatives, and then the New Hampshire State Assembly. It has 400 some people in it, I think. Oh, geez. And let's put up 294. Yeah, there it is. So this is Davis Miller, one of our guys, he says, special elections are all about turnout. This special election was

decided by 13 votes. Turning Point Action had two Super Chase events there ahead of this week's election. And, you know, when it's 13 votes, that probably did directly. make the difference. Absolutely. Yeah, our team was on the ground. We have an incredible team in New Hampshire. We're one of the only national organizations to have full-time local

staff, both Davis and Lisa that we have on our team, our leaders there. We're going to be hiring up actually dozens more people in the state of New Hampshire for this ahead of 26 and 2028. But this is where it's all about. The only two states that really had this significant impact are both Arizona and New Hampshire yesterday. New Hampshire skewed right it wasn't just so they gained seats in the legislature including the special election that was decided by 13 votes where our team had actually done ballot chasing initiatives we also had a huge mayoral election so the biggest city in new hampshire is manchester it's not the capital but it's the biggest city and uh a conservative won the mayor

race yesterday that was there for for Manchester which is a huge deal when you look at the rest of the country where we had every i mean we a lot of these big cities you don't even have a republican running for a mayor uh a republican one in manchester and and again the pathway to 28 you know directly goes through Arizona and New Hampshire well and that's that's I want to give people a little bit of a sense of where this is going we are and I mentioned this last night on the stream but for those listening now there is there is a I see this on X a lot where they're like you got to get into this race and why isn't turning point coming out here earlier.

And why isn't, listen, if somebody wants to fund something, that's one thing. But we have a disconnect with our donor class of what they're willing to invest money in. Okay. So, for example, we had people in New Jersey. We had people in PA. We had all this stuff. Did we have enough? Obviously not.

But secondly, you know, is anybody going to fund it? Yeah. That's a real big question. The turn, like, for example, us flipping Arizona last year, this was not, we had some super chase events. This was, we had full-time staff. Staffers handling quite small geographical areas knocking on doors regularly, knocking on doors repeatedly, following up, getting to know, building the relationships and all these local areas. Well, that is bluntly not a cheap thing to do. It's not an easy thing to do.

There's a calculation for it, Blake. I mean, it's really simple. We've done all the math. We can show you the math of what it takes for each of these states. And it's really simple. It just breaks down to how many votes exist out there that are low propensity, are enough chaseable to win. And how many bodies do you need to cover those bodies? Just, you know, we had, I mean, I don't want to give away the inside scoop here. But, yeah, there's a very small population that you put a, you put a staffer on. Very, very small. So, but here's what I want to say. Like, I think there's this tendency in, and you see this on X, after Charlie's assassination to sort of like, think, oh, turning points like so gargantuan that we can be in all 50 states. That's not at all how it was.

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So order online at balance of nature.com, use discount code Charlie. You have 35% off plus a free bottle of fiber and spice. I want to get into what. what I believe happened last night. And then Blake and Tyler, I think, you know, chime in and correct me where I'm wrong and add to it. Here's the bottom line. And I go back to something we talked about with Rich Barris last week. And basically the polling show something that we need to confront and be very aware of and be honest about.

And that is that a lot of people believe that the things that President Trump were elected on, namely the economy, immigration, energy prices, the affordability crisis, those things are not being addressed. They feel like the Republicans that were elected in November are focusing too much on foreign policy affairs. Their attention is not on the domestic issues. Now, do I think some of that is fair? Sure. Do I think some of it's unfair?

I actually really think a lot of it's unfair. I think that we have to wait for some of these policies to take their effect. but perception is reality and some of that perception is showing up in the enthusiasm gaps between Democrats and Republicans and you saw that last night you saw a state like Virginia which Glenn Yonken held every single county moved to the left show 283 this is a map of Virginia and every single county moved to the left there's not one red arrow on that county. What's happening is you're getting a lot of normy sort of working class, ethnic minority voters that said, hey, Trump's good at making me money. I had more money in my pocket when

President Trump was president of the first time who would just come out to the polls because they thought, hey, I'm poor now. I'm going to give the other guy a shot. And they don't feel that yet. They don't see it yet. And again, perception is reality. We have to do these big, audacious, crazy, you know, policies where, you know, I mentioned to Rich Barris, we need a Hoover Dam. Obviously, we're not going to be building a dam in 2025. But we need these big visual markers to say, hey, we're breaking ground on this big thing. We're focusing on this big thing. We're delivering for our voters. And again, a lot of this is going to be low propensity normy people that are not checked into the political process every day. Like a lot of you

that are watching the show a lot of us that follow this every day they need big wins that make them feel a certain way that make them feel like the politicians they elected to office and to power are doing the work that they they elected them to do it's the economy stupid i know that it's it's cliche at this point but that's true and we see that in the polling there's too much focus on these these external affairs the only one uh of the domestic policy fronts that president trump is scoring high on right now is immigration so yes that becomes an animating issue for the left, but ultimately people, the majority of people

are still happy that the border is not overrun by illegals. Well, and keep it mind Andrew, so, you know, off election cycle elections, so non-traditional. Non-presidential years, really. Even midterms are well, again, this isn't even a midterm election. This is an off-presidential cycle. So what

happens is that you have low turnout and the determining factor is who shows up and who gets their people out. So you have a two points. I was about to get to that point. So the first point is enthusiasm gap. And right now, we're just being honest here. Well, enthusiasm drives turnout. Yeah, enthusiasm is down for us right now because of a couple things. I think, again, it's this foreign policy fixation. Are those wins important? Yes, because

when we have peace in the world, we're allowed to focus on domestic issues. So you almost have to fix all the garbage that was going on in order to be able to fixate on the domestic policy issue. But, again, perceptions, reality. We need to, as many of these foreign trips and all this stuff, it's really important. It's good. We need to actually message equally, if not way more so, on the domestic wins, the domestic achievements here, right? And then you pair that with, an enthusiasm gap, you pair that with something that Data Republican mentioned really quick. Throw up Image 300.

And she's looking across Indeed and the job sites, and she found over 6,000 jobs for, grassroots. These are civic engagement people. This would be ballot chasers on the left. Now, so here's the pairing of these two nodes. You've got to have the infrastructure to drive low propensity voters out, but you also have to have policy wins and candidates that are that inspire enthusiasm. It's a both and, all right? So in 2024, Kamala Harris still had, and the Democrats still had the edge on ballot ground game stuff. They had more people out in the field. my mom in Nevada swing state had her door knocked on about 14 times she was throwing out all of the paperwork they were leaving the pamphlets and all this stuff because she didn't want to vote for Kamala it didn't matter my mom's kind of a swing voter actually she's kind of she's proudly independent I try I've been working on her for years but the point is because she was she was on their radar she got hit up a lot okay it didn't matter because the cut for Kamala she was a bad candidate okay Trump was coming in after a disastrous four years people were ready for change. Okay. So you have to pair up enthusiasm with ground game. And when they have

6,000 job postings on the Democrat side to get out ground game and knock on doors, that is a heck of a mountain to climb when you're a conservatives with a low prop voting base and an off-year election. Okay. So the point is this. Focus on domestic. Focus on policy wins. Perception is reality. You have to show, tell, and reveal to the audience the things that you're doing for them to make their lives easier and better to make them richer. And then finally, you have to build the infrastructure. We have to keep building. A lot of people think turning point can be in 50 states. That's not really going to ever happen, okay? There's limited resources. The donor class has to align with the new realities of elections and the new realities of the conservative

base. And that is that we are a low prop party that's lacking in enthusiasm and the coalition that we built. We've done a lot to actually alienate them and we have to be honest about that. Well, you brought up something really important, Andrews. Again, I'll look back at Glenn Yonkin's race. And Glenn Yonkin's a very nice guy. I just was in a room with him this week. And he speaks very well. And I think he's appealing to a lot of voters.

He's a great candidate. I mean, you can disagree with him and call him like a rhino or something, not true MAGA. I'm telling you, the guy's a great candidate for a state like Virginia. Well, but let's look back four years ago. Let's look back to when he ran. When he ran, he won because the, bombs showed up big time because if you remember the enthusiasm so the enthusiasm wave that he he wrote on was remember there was this entire scuffle that was happening across the state of

virginia where parents were showing up to school board meetings and that gave them the way of the enthusiasm lift for him to win well let's check this out so let's throw up image 296 i think this is really telling virginia ag race by gender look at this so This, again, this is Jay Jones, who proudly fetishizes killing his political opponents, doubles down, even when the person on the other end of the text is telling him that they're uncomfortable with the way he's talking. Females, 61% to 44 for Jones. So, Andrew, let me spell this out for everyone. If you have a 20 plus percent, and in a lot of cases it's more than 20%, a 20 to 30% differential on candidates for, for females. So the left, they're voting for leftists by 20 to 30 points in addition.

And then our males, you saw the numbers, our men are not matching the same numbers. Yeah. Are not matching the same numbers, but it's close. Men are voting for the Republicans by 15 to 20 points. Yeah, it's 55 to 39. But here's the problem. So we have a 16 point edge. If fewer men show up to vote and more women show up to vote, then they have a dramatic

different differential in that so again a presidential you have about the same amount of men and women who show up to vote in a off election year you have a lot more women potentially show up to vote i don't have the data in front of me for virginia but i can just tell you right now by the outcome is that a lot more women showed up to vote than men and because of that differential you're going to lose every time well and this is this was a big story in 2024 how we drove the men out i mean there was articles written about turning point targeting men with text campaigns i mean and you had the entire we they were calling it the manosphere and the rogan effect and the and all this stuff well guess what men are harder to get out to the polls than women women just vote more they just vote more

often they're more predictable voters and they tend to be prone to emotional arguments that democrats make check out this this image 297 this is virginia by how many children do you have and if you have them, then you voted for Miaris, the Republican candidate. If you don't, you voted for Jay Jones. So there's another dynamic there. Let's go to New Jersey and go by age. This one's terrifying, Blake, and I think you should chime in on this. So all the gains that we had with young people, and I'll never forget this, I mean, I don't want to spill too many beans here.

But there were at least three instances where Charlie called the administration and said all the gains that we saw in that election. with young people, you guys are jeopardizing them. I'll just put it in a nice thing. I think let's not beat around the bush here. Guys, this went bad because right now Trump is an unpopular president. I'm just going to lay it out. President Trump's approval rating on average is about 42%. His disapproval is 55%.

Today, the average today is the lowest it's been his entire second term. Yeah. And if you're an, the guy at the top is not that popular, it's going to have a cascading effect down the ballot. And if you look at individual issues, he's underwater. on inflation. He's underwater on trade. He's underwater on the economy. All of those by over 15 points. He's even underwater on immigration by 5%. Yep. And, you know, some of that you can debate, oh, is it because they want it faster versus slower? Besides the point. He's underwater. He's

the guy at the top. And that's going to affect things. I think the economy is a huge deal. If you look at the numbers, look at the economy overall is shaky. The economy for people under 30 is catastrophic, hiring for entry-level positions in the U.S. is horrible right now. Well, in a lot of that, you're seeing these mass layoffs. The average age of a first-time home buyer is just eclipsed 40 years old. It's gone up, I think, nine years or something, or seven years in like five years total. It's going up.

The average age of a home buyer is rising faster than the passage of time. And let's make this point. In most states, you cannot win an election if you lose the under 40 vote. you just the entire electorate has shifted it is millennial heavy if you are losing it by double digits the millennial vote you will lose every election and and again the female vote is contributing heavily towards that we've got to figure it out this is lane schlberger chief investment officer and founding partner of y refi it has been an honor and a privilege to partner with turning point and for charlie to endorse us his endorsement

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Texas this could be we lose 10 seats in Texas well i'll just say this is that it's again you're talking low propensity voters right so you don't want to infer too much off of a non-traditional election a midterm or a presidential but what you do want to do is look at the hard numbers and say did these people turn out it's really easy to it's really easy to identify identify it's really easy to identify now to your point if if we look at the data and it shows these people turned out and you lose the election that's that's saying something this is why looking at the data at census block level at precinct level is really important because if you're targeting with full-time staff the right voters with the right people you know and geographically demographically then you get a a better outcome yeah again I think it's three things voter enthusiasm to your point Trump is at a nadir. It's just, yeah, he's at a low ebb. He's at a low ebb that didn't time out well with these elections.

Two, you need the infrastructure. You need donor alignment on what actually works. And it's funny because there's people like, I've not seen any indication that what turning point or Scott Pressler or whatever does is actually working. No, that's the wrong conclusion to draw. You need more, not less. And third, you need good candidates that are popular. I mean, Winsome Sears, I never, no disrespect, I think she's a nice lady.

I never thought she was a great candidate for that, for the governor in Virginia. And it showed. Go ahead, Todd. One thing we didn't talk about yet was that it looks like the goose is cooked on the Minneapolis mayoral race. Omar Fethe looks like lost in ranked choice voting. They have rank choice voting that's implemented in Minneapolis. And this is the rare occasion where deep blue city, rank choice voting actually benefits. a little bit and uh jacob fry uh it looks like he has squeaked it out by a few thousand votes

wow win one uh win one for the uh i guess the old school democrats but rank choice voting but again this is what caused this is i'm going to say that i don't know what what how people respond to this but we were commenting even in the cold open of this show and you were listening to it like he's like i got four words for this is a mom donnie to trump or was it yeah I was just trying. He goes, I have four words for you. Turn the volume up. And I looked at Blake. I was like, damn, he's talented. Omar Fatah was not talented. Not talented at all. Neither is Jacob Fry. But I mean, here's the thing. You had two things happen in the mayoral race in New York City. You had Cuomo, who's got more baggage than a, you know, American Airlines, you know, cross-country trip. He's got a ton of baggage, okay? The guy's got sexual assaults. He basically, his policies contribute. and killing old people and nursing homes. I mean, the guy's got a lot of baggage in New York.

And it was actually a little closer than we expected. I mean, to be fair, right? A lot of the Slewa vote ended up going over and going with Cuomo. Almost unexpectedly because he's pulling out. But, Donnie is talented. He's a very talented. And I think he's probably the leading Democrat competing with AOC as far as just energy from the base. Yeah, I mean, he's a popular guy.

Although, again, with AOC, keep in mind, some of this is Republicans, people watching Fox and stuff. They like to fixate on these young mascot Democrats as well. So I don't know that you want to leap to the conclusion that he's the immediate head of the party. We can anoint him the head of the party, I suppose. Well, listen, if he's not the guy, okay, fine, he's one of the guys. Okay, but here's the other thing. we've talked about this a lot Blake the youth vote that

the gains we made in the youth vote in 2024 were fickle things like bombing around let's just be honest about it the Epstein for Casso like all of this stuff has been chipping away and then and then they still don't feel like they can buy a home

there's been no moonshot I mean I'll never forget Charlie calling for the moonshot we need 10 million homes we need to make we and by the that's easy to say like we need a moonshot that's actually a hugely difficult problem to solve. Like, course. If you want to do that, you need to aggressively, radically deregulate a lot of what restricts homebuilding right now. You'd have to, it's actually a serious problem that takes effort to solve. You'd have to look to imitate the states that have a lot of

home building. That would probably be, you know, I bet Texas is pretty good at it. I think the Dakotas are pretty good at it. Florida, I imagine, is pretty good at it. And you have to generalize those and like push those along. And it's, you know, it's easy to say, do a moonshot. Landing on the moon was hard. There's a reason we can't do it anymore. We're not the country that landed on the moon in 1960. We're going to have to find that country again. And by the way, there's a, there's a huge dynamic in New York that we haven't even got to this hour. The hour flies so fast. But just foreign born voters in New York and in Virginia went overwhelmingly from Omdani and the Democrats. So you've got foreigners pouring in. They're voting Democrat. And you've got young people that came over, gave us a shot, but they were not locked in. And we've done a lot. to alienate those six so you got there's multiple things here that we got to fix it focus on our attention on uh but we cannot black pill we fight fight fight we fight on because guess what there's

no other option we don't fight because we know we're going to win we fight because we know it's the right thing to do and in politics you know a year plus until it was a year until the midterms and we got three years until the presidential next presidential election it's a lot of time to make up ground and to fix some of this stuff and we've we've got to to fixate on it. We got to do it. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.