The Charlie Kirk Show - Why Christians Need to Care About Abortion — Charlie’s Message to the Church

Episode Date: October 26, 2025

A pastor who won’t speak up against abortion is a coward and a church that won’t touch the issue isn’t worth attending. In a strong message to the modern American church, Charlie explains why action against the atrocity of abortion is central to the faith. He and Isabel Brown take audience questions as well. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic. My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You've got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as much.

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Thank you, everybody. What amazing intro video. Thank you. And, all right, I got to get this right, to Larry. I was worried about it all evening, backstage. I was like, is it to Lari,

to Lair, to Larry. I did good? I'm done. All right. So it's an honor to be here. We're going to have a lot of fun tonight. We're going to do question and answer. And honestly, we want the hardest possible questions. Isabel is an amazing person. And she did wonderful, didn't she? And that's not easy to do. Get in front of 2,600 people. Four months after having a baby and not sleeping going across the country, that's not easy to do. For me, it's, you know, whatever, it's fine. But I want to say, she started as a turning point. USA chapter member leader for us at Colorado State University, and she started as a single student. It was actually one of the first speeches I formerly ever gave on a college campus, was hosted by Isabel Brown, went to that campus. We had a couple protesters. By the way, you guys need better protesters. I'm going to talk about that in a second, but that's a whole separate issue. You guys got to upgrade, okay? We'll get to that. But she held her She was courageous, she was strong, and now she has this incredible platform.

And for those of you that pray for or support our work at Turning Point USA, Isabel Brown is just one of the amazing success stories. And so I'm so proud of her and the great work that she's doing and the voice that she's becoming for young women in this country, because we desperately need it as a counter to the culture. So kind of tying into my welcoming committee out there on the road. By the way, I wish and I hope. all of them could be here tonight, because they think they know what this night is all about.

But like so many things that unfortunately happens in the whole progressive world, what they think is completely disconnected from reality. And their intensity, their passion against me in particular, which is fine, you know, get in line, is one thing. But why not do something actually good for the world other than just sitting on a street corner with a sign that is very hard to read? contrast that with all of you you're actually doing something good tonight. You paid

money to come to an event to hopefully challenge you biblically, scripturally, and spiritually, but also your funding to help babies, lives be saved and in the fight for life. You're actually doing good by being here tonight. And

that is something that we need to kind of flush out because this is the critical moment. This is the critical contrast what's happening in this country. Everyone out there thinks they were doing good. We all think we're doing good by being here. Who's right? We are, of course, right. But why? Because we know we're right because we have an objective standard of good and evil of which we measure our conduct, our agency, and our action. I've had the opportunity to debate all around the world. From Oxford to Cambridge, you

saw some of those clips there. Also, I mean, as you may or may not know, I debate on college campuses about 100 hours a semester. I visit college campuses, so you don't have to. You're welcome, by the way. I have to say, though, you as California taxpayers have given me more free content for videos than any other university system. I want to thank you for your contribution of this republic. You paying those big checks to the California Franchise Tax Board, funding, these bloated, woke, anti-American, secular humanists, awful god-forsaken places, unintentionally create an environment where I could just go have a mic and I have content seen by billions to help Donald Trump get elected last November. So you played a big role in saving

America. You understand I couldn't create this. I mean, people say, where do you find these people? I just show up. You name it. And I've done the whole. I've done the whole. California. I've got from San Luis Obispo to UC Santa Barbara, I've done the whole thing. And I could rank them all from worst to really worst and we could do the whole kind of, the whole program.

But all kidding aside, when I go to these college campuses and I, whether I'm debating in Oxford or Cambridge, it doesn't matter if I'm debating. It all comes down to the fundamental worldview collision, the issue that is facing us. And they will say, well,

I am right because my truth and you have your truth. Everybody, there is only the truth. There is not my truth, your truth. There is the truth. Everybody has a moral code that they are appealing towards. And this is the key to not just winning the abortion argument, but winning the transgender, whatever it is. Everybody is appealing to some standard of good. We need to figure out what it is when we're talking to these people. So out there, they're yelling and screaming, what is their standard of good? Their standard of good is like the New York Times, or, I don't know, something they saw on social media,

or the worst standard of good imaginable themselves. Why do we know that that is the worst standard of good imaginable? Because we're pretty crappy, actually, as human beings. We have original sin. Only Jesus Christ can bring us back into the glory of God as our Lord and Savior. Only Jesus Christ. And because of our belief in that, We know that human nature is not so good and that we have an objective measurement to know what is good and not good.

When it comes to the abortion debate, there's arguments that are afloated. But at its core, you cannot be pro-abortion while also being consistent in other moral domains. It's impossible. And I say this as someone who literally does this for a living. And not only do I do this for a living, I will go on the college campus and I will present an argument that, is one that is so unpopular where I will say I don't believe in exceptions for rape or incest life, whatever you say, and people will just look at me and they say, how can you possibly say that? And I'll say, well, is it a human being or is it not a human being? And fundamentally

then you get at sticking point. Because, and Isabel said this great, and I want to reiterate it, at the core of the pro-abortionist movement is a concerted dehumanization campaign. and if you play every single one out to its logical conclusion, none of it applies into other moral dimensions or domains. This can best be said through the acronym. You guys can remember this, S-L-E-D, sled. They'll say, well, the baby is small, therefore it has less rights. I'm six foot five.

All of you at 5-11, do you guys get less constitutional rights than me? Nope. Well, then they'll say, well, it's the location of development, okay? it's in the mother, not out of the mother, and so when you're in the mother, you get less rights. When you're in, too, Larry, do you guys get more rights than people in Berkeley? Well, maybe you should. No, I'm kidding.

Let me think about that. No, no, you still get equal rights, even though they're in Berkeley. Okay, but then they say environment. Well, the environment is because they're in utero, you get less human rights. Why should the environment of human being matter for how many human rights? rights you get. And finally is degree of dependency. This is the one that they spend the most amount of time on, which is that, well, the baby is dependent on the mother, therefore it's not a human life, it's something else. At that moment, you should just ask, what species is the baby? Is it a

dolphin? Is it a porcupine? Is it a skunk? Is it a giraffe? They'll do everything they possibly can from ever saying the word human. They'll say fetus. They'll say zygote. They'll say anything. They'll dance around it because they know as soon as they use the word human. They'll say fetus. They'll say the the word baby or human, well, then that human must get human rights. And what is the first the human rights? Life. Every human being has the right to life, period, hard stop. Why? And this is where we have the beautiful expression of the differences of worldviews. And this is why the most important thing I can tell you tonight is not to vote a certain way or even advocate for a certain thing, is that who must be in charge of your life is Jesus Christ. The most important thing

that I'm going to tell you tonight is what is the answer to the question of who is Jesus Christ? The answer to that question, who is Jesus Christ will determine your eternity, your destiny, and your immediate action. But when you come to somebody that does not believe that human beings are made in the image of God, think about that. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1-1, God created the entire universe, the galaxies, the moons, the stars, the fine-tuning of our earth, the laws of physics, the laws of reason, the laws of thermodynamics, he created all of it. And only one thing is made in his image.

Only one thing. The earth is not made in his image. The heavens are not even made. You are the only thing that is singled out in the scriptures that is made in the image of God. Secondly, we believe every human being has a soul. That it's more than just flesh and blood. It's more than just physicality.

But there's an invisible being inside of you that will transcend and live beyond. your physical being. Therefore, every single human being is an image bearer of the divine. That means you can't just eliminate them. You can't just cast them aside. You can't just say, oh, well, they're smaller,

they're more dependent, and we're just going to wipe them away. You don't get to do that. However, if you don't believe in a God-based creation story, in a God-based creation reality, then it's very easy to reason yourself into Mastie Ply depopulation and decimilization. So now, hear me out. We believe the greatest miracle is first creation. If you look at it, it's incredible. And then, of course, the resurrection. If those two miracles are possible, all the other miracles the Bible are possible. But the secular humanists,

they believe that human beings are a mistake. That you guys are just kind of an accident of millions of years of Darwinian evolution. You're just a bunch of cells. There's nothing unique about you. It doesn't matter that you have a specific genetic sequence. You're just a combination of cells. And here's the best way I can prove to you what they want and the darkness of what they want. And this is not even the most extreme example. It's just real. And I think even a pro-abortion advocate, and I hope there's one tonight. I hope this really pricks your spirit. I hope this challenges you in a way that makes you reflect. In Iceland, they brag that they have eliminated Down syndrome. How have they done that? Mandatory abortions for babies with

Down syndrome in Iceland. We think that's dark, disgusting, demonic, and satanic. But the secular humanists Europeans say, these people are, they're strains on our life. They can't produce, they can't hunt and gather. They're dependent their entire life. Remember, that's why they like that degree of dependency. Just get rid of the Down syndrome people. They're kind of an annoyance that, you know, we had to pay for them. They brag about it. Now, for those of us that live on, you know, team humanity, aka where Christ our Lord is on the throne, we say, wait a second, first of all, they're made in the image of God. Just because they might not have all the same chromosomes that we do, they have a soul. And honestly, let's take a step back, two things. Number one, some of those

cheerful, amazing people I've ever come in contact with, are those struggling with Down syndrome? and you're going to brag as the Icelandic government that you're just wiping them off, this is going to sound provocative. You ready? That worldview is indistinguishable to how we got to Auschwitz. It's a fact.

You can scream about it. You can hate it. That is the exact same worldview that we are told never again. Well, never again is happening right now. It's just not happening in concentration camps. it's happening in Planned Parenthoods. The second element of this, though, of Down syndrome, babies or people is it makes us better, actually.

It makes those of us that have been blessed enough to not have to struggle with that, to sometimes have to serve, sometimes have to give, sometimes have to be around. And so not only is it bad for the individual, but it's bad for the society to get rid of individuals that might be struggling with that. It makes us more cold, more callous. I don't know about you, but I feel gentler and softer and just more thankful any time I'm around someone with special needs. And yet they're happier than I am. And think of how dark this is.

We're going to murder the happiest people that we have. Anyone who's telling you that we should eliminate the happiest people, you should never vote for them. And that's a demonic agenda, period. End of story. Period. But when you think about it, what would the argument be for allowing Down syndrome people, individuals,

beautiful humans, to keep living if degree of dependency is your standard. And that is why this matters. And that's why I want to just thank our amazing church host for opening up your church for this event. God bless you, my friend, that it takes a lot of courage and you deserve to be encouraged and praised

for that, seriously. And if this is not your church home, I encourage you to find a church that is willing to have events like this that talks about the fight for the unborn. Because let me be very honest with you. And this is why I love the great work that this organization is doing. And you should give and you should give generously. You should give to the VR project. You should give the educational project. You should give whatever you can.

The reason I love this partnership is because more broadly in the pro-life movement, of which every day I'm fighting for, We would have significant gains if every church in America just did something a little bit in the fight for life. Instead, the vast majority of churches will not touch it. They'll say, it's too controversial. Guys, if you are a church and you're afraid of controversy, then you're something completely different. Let me be honest. church is more than a TED talk and a rock concert with organized parking and above-average coffee, and I bet the coffee here's great.

Church is not a country club for saints. It's a hospital for sinners. And church is a place where you get saved and then you get told what to do. But if the church is not going to morally speak out on the slaughter of our day, then who will? You're going to expect the secular humanists. no they won't because they'll reason they will add it's a small little thing just eliminate it's not a baby who cares if not the church then who and honestly shame on our own community and i say this as an evangelical bible believing christian shame on the pastors shame on the churches that would dare say nothing

and do nothing because i'll be honest that's not a that is not a political issue that's not a right versus left that is a spiritual and a biblical issue of whether or not you will see you will stand for the unborn. We're not even talking about some of the other issues that are facing you head on, but that really needs to be a call to all of our faith leaders here in this city, in this town, in this county. And that's why I love the fact that we have practicing Catholics here. I love the fact that we have, God bless all six of you, God sees you.

And you see, a Catholic yelling at, church is very uncomfortable. They don't really know what to do. They're like, when are we kneeling? What is this? Seats? I got other jokes. I won't say them. We got swinging from the chandelier Pentecostals here tonight. There you go. We got five-point Calvinists here.

They're the ones in suits and ties always in judging you if you're not dressed like them. I'm kidding. No, I'm not. And we should all come together. All of us, Catholics, Protestants, Lutherans, Episcopalians, all of us together in the fight for life. All of us together through all the denominations. We're honored to be partnering with Alan Jackson Ministries, and today I want to point you to their podcast. It's called Culture and Christianity, the Alan Jackson podcast.

makes it unique is Pastor Allen's biblical perspective. He takes the truth from the Bible and applies it to issues we're facing today. Gender confusion, abortion, immigration, Doge, Trump and the White House, issues in the church. He doesn't just discuss the problems. In every episode, he gives practical things we can do to make a difference. His guests have incredible expertise and powerful testimonies. They've been great friends. And now you can hear from Charlie in his own words. Each episode will make you recognize the power of your faith and how God can use your life to impact our today. The culture and Christianity podcast is informative and encouraging. You could find it on YouTube, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss any episodes.

Alan Jackson Ministries is working hard to bring biblical truth back into our culture. You can find out more about Pastor Allen and the ministry at Alanjaxon.com forward slash Charlie. When we get to heaven, one of the questions that is going to be asked or when we get to the judgment before heaven is, what did you do for the least of these? makes no mystery of how you should treat children. This is his harshest of all the teachings. Do you know Jesus talked more about hell than heaven? By a lot, actually.

One of the ones that he really emphasized the pit of fire is you lay a hand on the least of these little ones. This is not up for interpretation. The scriptures are very clear. In fact, in Luke chapter 1, we know that John the Baptist leapt in Elizabeth's womb when being in the presence of Christ our Lord who was also an unborn baby at the time

and what is the Greek word that is used for baby it is a word called brefos which literally means baby infant human there's no reasoning your way out of it in the Psalms it says I wove your inner what most parts together in the book of Jeremiah Jeremiah 1 5 is I knew the plans for you before you were in the womb.

Everybody, there is no possible biblical explanation to be pro-abortion. Now, you could try to do some sort of calisthenics. You could kind of do some sort of neo-thing from the Matrix where you're trying to dodge all the incoming from your church. But in reality, if you're a pastor that's doing this and know my heart, you should pray, reflect, and repent. And if you stay in that state of not speaking out against this, you should stop being a pastor and go become a motivational speaker

because we need people of courage and valor who will speak out in such a time as this. And because imagine if every church in America lovingly presented the gospel and said also, and by the way, Anne's doing such a great job because she also talks about post-abort of women. Imagine if every church said, hey, if you got an abortion, we have a ministry here for you to help you heal.

Look at the disservice that church is doing By not having that, the church by not having that, they're doing a disservice feeling, oh, just go to Planned Parenthood to go get that. We don't do that around here. What would yours as a senior pastor say if a 16-year-old girl came in pregnant? Oh, we don't do that around here. It's your body, your choice. No, of course not.

You're not doing your job as a pastor. Instead, you should have programming. You should have infrastructure. In fact, Isabel said an amazing number recently, which is that, and this should be the wake-up call for the church. The wake-up call, that the abortion rate inside the church is the same as outside of the church. That, first of all, that tells me two major things. The first of which is that we do not have environments in our churches that are willing to accept and open our arms to women that are in crisis.

Maybe it might be, I have a little bit of a attitude of too-judgeiness. I don't know. That's how they might portray it. Whatever it is, we've got to fix it. we have to repent and pray, why is it that women have the same abortion rate inside the church than outside of the church? We've got to figure that out. And maybe the problem is us, maybe it's not. The second is, though, this, which I think is really important, which is that they're also not hearing on a regular basis from their pastor that it would be wrong to kill their unborn child. And that's where pastors are afraid to preach the truth

because the truth might all of a sudden decline their attendance or some sort of weird thing. Guys, as you can see here, we filled this entire auditorium tonight speaking the truth, biblical-based truth. And by the way, if your entire life as a pastor is just trying to sell as many tickets as possible, you're in the wrong business. As a pastor, my pastor friend here is going to laugh, you should be trying to preach your church down to a manageable size every single Sunday. Blessed subtraction, everybody.

if you are not, the Word of God exists to offend all of us. The Word of God is not there to affirm you. You don't go to church to hear about how great you are. Oh, I'm going to go to church. I don't like the way that pastor makes me feel. Now, is it because he might have an approach you don't like? I get that. Is he a little too firing in brimstone?

Or is he quoting the Bible in a way that you don't like? You don't go to church to be told how awesome you are and how amazing you are and how you're going to have a great golf game afterwards. You know, what team do you guys cheer for? The 49ers or something? Or, you know, I don't know. Whatever. Why they're going to win and why your stock portfolio go up.

Everybody, you go to church to learn why you need to get saved. But here's the kicker. And this is why we're starting to see a resurgence in Gen Z. And a resurgence in these types of churches. This is the easiest reason-based way to know why the American church has struggled with this the last 30 years. Why church attendance has gone down. Well, what? This is what someone would say in their head without saying it.

but why do I need a Savior if I'm so great? This church, this pastor's telling me on the best thing ever every Sunday. It's like, why do I need this Jesus guy? How is he different than Buddha? And you think about it, it's exactly right. If you're going to church every single week and you're told that you're awesome

and you can do it and it's a motivational speech, but there's a place for that. Obviously, you don't want to break people down all the time. Then you don't need a savior. No, instead, you can only know that you need to be rescued if you know you're drowning. You can only know that if you're rescued,

if you know what sin is. So we talk about a savior-based gospel, but we don't forget that unless you teach about sin, no one actually is going to think they need a savior, and they're not going to accept the Savior, and wouldn't be a real acceptance of the Savior. And what does sin mean? Ooh, the spooky word, sin.

It just means off-target. I'm a sinner, you're a sinner. We're all sinners. But we should talk more openly about the sins that we don't always talk about. the sins of watching pornography, the sins of not being faithful to your wife or your husband, the sins of telling that little white lie. Now, I'm not here to kind of break you down,

and I'm here to actually tell you the great news, that unlike all these other religions and these faiths, whether it be Islamism or Hinduism and Buddhism, we've got to go try to do stuff to get closer to God. God got closer to you. That God actually came down to you, and all you have to do is accept that is your Lord and Savior, and you should know that answer that question to who is Jesus Christ is the most important thing.

And it's going to matter whether or not, supported and you were actively involved in the ones that couldn't defend themselves. Imagine the injustice in God's economy. The baby that can't speak, the baby that can't get reason, the baby that just exists. And we as more mature older adults, say I'd just get rid of it because it's health care. You might have a tougher life. Everybody, that is a perversion of God's perfect and pleasing will. And then you see it extrapolated in other areas. That is a culture of death that permeates and that spreads in ways that we do, we as a society should not tolerate. I'll close with this and then we'll do some questions and answer.

We need to be very clear to preach Jesus Christ to a broken world. As I say, it's the most important thing you can do. What is the second most important thing you can do? To make sure you could do the first thing. I spend my entire life on number two and I spend some time on number one. As you could tell, I try to bring people to Christ every single day. But here is where things are changing. And I want the church to adjust with it.

And I want the Trish and community to adjust with it. We were told you can never talk about politics because it will turn people off and they won't come to church and they won't come back. What if I told you might be the opposite? What if you start making sense? Like saying, yeah, you're not allowed to cut off the genitalia of my 14-year-old son?

Or maybe we should have a border? Or very basic things? And all of a sudden, they say, where are you getting that from? Once people start drinking from the streams of liberty, they're going to want to find its source. And liberty is not man's idea, it's God's idea. You see, we believe, I've got my great hype man back there. I'm going to take him on tour. This guy's great.

I know the Pentecostal in here. I see this great Catholic priest here, I think I do. He's like, what is this? Someone wrong? Send him a medic. What is going on here? Everybody, it is incumbent on us as Christians to care about what happens outside of our walls.

The most important thing is leading people to Jesus. I'll say that once, I'll say it a hundred times. You should also care about what your city council does. You should care about what your town council does. You should care about what your member of Congress does. You should make the entire world look more like Jesus. On earth as it is in heaven. And we're going to fail, we're going to fall short of the standard.

But this beautiful country that we enjoy, that we appreciate, you know why it was formed? It was formed because Christians decided to break outside of the walls. It was formed because Christians decided to say, you know what? It doesn't just matter what we do in church. It matters what we do outside of church. Jesus called us to be salt and light. What does salt and light have in common? They change the environments they come in contact with.

They don't conform, they don't affirm, they transform what they come in contact with. My question for you, and we'll close with this, are you transforming the environment you come in contact with, your place of work? Are you transforming your family? Are you trying to make it more Christ-like? Are you trying to lift people up? Are you trying to reject evil?

It says in the Psalms, Psalm 9710. Someone in this audience is probably going to say in the Q&A, Charlie, I got it all figured out. Jesus is coming next Thursday, so all this stuff is fine, but you don't have to worry about it. I say, look, I'm not going to get into eschatology. I know some people care about it, whether you're, you know, pre-trib, post-trib, I happen to be pan-trib, it's all going to pan out in the end, right?

I'm going to be on the welcoming committee, not, you know, I'm going to be on the welcoming committee, not the planning committee, that's fine. The point is this, what do you want to be caught doing upon Jesus' return? Do not allow eschatology to be an excuse for you not to fight evil. Do not allow the signs of the times for you to be paralyzed, static, to not engage in the culture. We are living through this amazing moment. God spared this nation, I believe, last November, from over the abyss. believe that. We are in this time

where we as Christians have a mojo about ourselves that I have not had my entire life. The most popular music in America is Christian music. Forrest Frank is filling out major stadiums across America. We are seeing young people on campuses come towards Christ. And now it's us. We must meet them. Not with a watered down, happy, go lucky. You can come as, you know, you can keep on going as you are. No, no, we must challenge people to be greater, to reach higher, to be biblical, to be Christ-like, and I'm telling you, this generation can not just be the most

conservative generation, but the most Christian generation, as we continue to be salt and light in every single walk of our life. With that, let's welcome Isabel and bring the chairs up on screen, and thank you guys for having me. Oh, we have beautiful. Thank you for the NASCAR crew with the chairs. Thank you. We got to get Isabella Mike. Okay. All right. Least boring questions you have, whatever they might be.

By the way, I want to reiterate what I said while we're getting ready for questions. I don't know the logistics. Okay. Guys, support this organization, please. The pro-life movement is woefully underfunded versus our pro-abortion counterparts. By the way, President Donald Trump, we've officially cut Planned Parenthood. for this fiscal year, this last big, beautiful bill. Amazing.

And so, hello. A question for both of you guys and Charlie, I know you've talked with President Trump a bit about abortion-related stuff. What action, if any, do you think the president's going to take with regards to the abortion pill? President Biden really loosened regulations around it. A lot of pro-lifers want President Trump and the FDA to do more to restrict it. to restrict its shipment. So what do you think is going to happen? I have no idea. I'm much more in your camp. I don't know where he believes or what he thinks on that. Isabel, why don't you educate people more? I know you talked about it earlier, about the horrors and the medical implications

of the abortion bill. Yeah, it's a great question. And I know the FDA and HHS at large is doing some fantastic work re-investigating so many of these health-related questions, not just isolated to abortion, but food dies and additives and chemicals in what we're eating, redoing the infant vaccine schedule, which is fascinating work. So keep your eye on all of that because the science is really fascinating. But the abortion pill, your right, was incredibly relaxed by the Biden administration, which is what allows us to now be able to just purchase these things online. It comes through the mail. No one ever knows. People are stockpiling these things. Charlie brought up over at our dinner a few minutes ago that there are two active cases currently

happening in the United States right now where people are on track. for murder because the male partner gave an abortion pill without his girlfriend or wife's consent. So this is a question even before the courts right now. Ultimately, I think the real questions related to HHS and safety for the abortion pill are going to come down to the fact that women hemorrhage and bleed out from these quite often far more than the media will ever report and the impact that it's having in our water system. And that will be the easiest way for the government to take action. Also, the reason why these horrific cases in Illinois and Texas matter. How could it be murder if it's not a baby? Yes. Hi Charlie, how are you? Thanks for

putting together America Fest. I went for the first time last year. It was amazing. Great job there. I wanted to ask if you could talk a little bit about Margaret Sanger and the history of Planned Parenthood and her involvement with Bill Gates Sr. and why that matters today. Yeah, actually, I don't know about Bill Gates Senior, but I guess do you mean the current Bill Gates or Bill Gates's dad? Bill Gates, Senior, close friends with Margaret Sanger. Well, I didn't know that, actually, but I can tell, thank you for telling me that. So Margaret Sanger was the original eugenicist, right? She was one of a gang of population control freaks, honestly, in the early 1900s,

that wanted to try to control population. Now, this is a natural extension of Darwinism. So you might ask someone, hey, what is the title of Darwin's magnum opus? People will say origin of species. It's actually not the title. it's origin and species and an inquiry into those of the favored races. I might have some words off, but you guys can fact check me. Basically, into the favored races, is there.

So Darwinism, which, by the way, is not correct. I believe God created the heavens in the earth and created humanity. I believe in micro-adaptation. I do not believe in macro-evolution. So I encourage you guys to have that same view when talking to your kids. Anyway, that's a side note. This Darwinistic view was like, hey, survival of the fittest. we need to try to cleanse our world of the lower races and the lower peoples.

Margaret Sanger was a bitter racist, and she wanted to basically sterilize, at the very least, entire black populations in America because she believed that the black population was a lesser-favored people. This was so extreme that the Nazi Germans actually came and studied Margaret Sanger's work, and they said, that's a little bit too much for even us. It's true story. It's documented, right? Isabel? The Nazis came here and read it. They were like, that's too graphic.

So Nazis then did their own horrific thing, the worst eugenics experiment that we have on record. However, here's the kicker. Margaret Sanger, in her part-time, also started Planned Parenthood. She is the founder of Planned Parenthood. In fact, up until recently, until we made a little bit of a hysteria about it, they gave away the Margaret Sanger Award

for 50 straight years at Planned Parenthood. There are statues to her. There are buildings named after her. Her intended population was to try to curtail and diminish the black population in America. And I hate to say it this way, but in some way she succeeded. The highest abortion rate in America is in the black population. The most dangerous place for a black baby is in the womb. In fact, there are far more Planned Parenthood abortion mills in black neighborhoods per capita per square mile. than any other group in America. So Margaret Sanger's dream was trying to keep the black population at bay and eliminating it altogether. This sounds demonic. It's absolutely demonic, right? And the final point is that black population

was around 14%, 50, 60 years ago. Now it's 13%. And it might even have been higher, I think it was 16, 17%, and diminishing every 10 to 20 years. If you see a... This last thing I'll say, and I'll give it to Isabel, If you see a pregnant black woman in New York on the subway,

statistically, it is more likely she's on her way to an abortion clinic than to a delivery room. So the abortion rate is above the birth rate in New York City for black women. She even ended up expanding her eugenicist idea beyond just the black community, of course, impacting disabled individuals and many others that she considered less favorable in society, very Nazi Germany-esque language. But she's on record repeatedly saying there should be no, no new babies ever. Ultimately, this was a sterilization experiment for every generation to come

after her. And in shocking, shocking ways, Planned Parenthood is succeeding in that sterilization experiment, not just by convincing young people to abort their babies, but Planned Parenthood is actually the number one provider of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones to teenagers in America. Bosting on their own website, you do not need a pre-done diagnosis of gender dysphoria or any history of gender dysphoria to walk in and walk out with testosterone in hand same day. They're sterilizing children before they even get the chance to conceptualize, do I want a family? And they are succeeding. Thank you.

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Private student loan debt relief, y-refi.com. Several weeks ago, I felt the Holy Spirit gave me. a message for you and I told him if you put me face to face with you I would I would give it so my question I am the product of discipleship in the church there's probably 10 women actually here who are responsible for that and my question is would you prayerfully consider doing a nationwide push in our country for discipleship in the church I've heard you talk a lot about marriage and what an impact it's made on young men. But I think that if we take one step back, that discipleship would be a much bigger impact.

It's a great question. I will consider it. We have a lot of projects going on, but you're right. That's important because that's the Great Commission. And we misunderstand the Great Commission where most pastors act, like Jesus said, create converts of all nations, but he said create disciples of all nations. And discipleship is deep. discipleship takes time converts lead to discipleship but we should be measuring success in hey how many

disciples do you have not how many converts do you have and far too often sometimes i speak at churches and they'll say hey we had you know 13 000 commitments for jesus this easter amazing praise god right but you have to wonder how many those people are following up and are going deeper into discipleship you said something very important, which is community. And so I don't want to go too long on this, but the best way I can say it is there's major problems with young men in this country. There's an attack on young men,

and especially an attack on young white men in this country. That's not me racializing it. It's just a fact. We have entire curriculum set up to try to shame them, to try to have them basically apologize for their existence. Young men will take that kind of hostile cultural approach by disconnecting altogether from society. The male unemployment rate is twice that of female.

The male suicide rate is higher. Men are just disconnecting. They are the lost boys of the West, you could call them, and it's a major existential problem. Why isn't the church filling that void, and it should, actively developing men's ministries that are not just pastors wearing skinny jeans, you know, talking about their feelings.

Don't worry, pastor, you pass the test. So... I have a lot more I can say on that, but thank you for that message. God bless you. Good evening, Mr. Kirk. I'm a very huge fan. I've been watching you for a long time. My question revolves, it's a relatively biblical question.

When you look in scripture, you see ideas presented of a Christian's duty and position to submit to governing authorities, talked about in the 13th chapter of Romans, according to St. Paul, and in 1st Peter. what do you think we as Christians and our relationship should be to tyrannical governments, often cases, bloated and rife with corruption that allow atrocities like this abortion to continue? So I'm going to try to blow your mind a little bit here. It's a little mental jihadistia. You ready? Who's in charge in America?

Is it the people? Yeah, it is. No, it's our Father in Heaven. Well, no, you're right, ultimately. But according to our documents, who's the sovereign? Okay, it's the people, right? Oh, oh, you're talking about us. Yes, yeah. Here's what I'm getting at.

The elected leaders should be submitting to the people. Romans 13 is written for our congressmen and our state legislators and our mayors. The brilliance what the founding fathers did is that we read it because it says governing authorities. We're actually the governing authorities in the United States of America. So, if you read Romans 13 and says, submit to the rulers of authority, we are the rule of authority. The American founders broke the mold, and this is what was so wrong during COVID. They said, well, we must submit to our local leaders. The second thing is you should never submit to that, which is ungodly or unbiblical or immoral, period.

End of story, okay? There we go. And the final example of this, again, during COVID, we had the worst theology ever thrown at us and thrust on us. But the example, one of my favorite verses of the entire Bible is Exodus 1, which is this ties to abortion. Okay? So listen carefully. In Exodus 1, one of my favorite verses, it starts with, and the king of Egypt did not know Joseph, basically. And from that point forward, Exodus changes, right? So remember, Genesis 50 ends. The people of Israel come to Egypt. They were blessed by Joseph. And all of a sudden, a new king, he didn't remember what Joseph did. Tyranny ensues. This guy's like Egyptian Hitler. And he says, the Israelites are too many. They might form an army. We need to go. go kill their firstborn. So basically he's arguing for abortion. Throw them into the river, right? Throw them into the Nile. And in this stunning moment, the midwives to the Hebrews, which we think are Hebrew but could be Egyptian, that's a theological wonky point, they were told by their

king, the Pharaoh, to go murder the firstborn. And it says they disobeyed Pharaoh and they honored God and what? God dealt well to the midwives to the Hebrews. He did well with them because they loved God and did not trust, did not listen to man. What I'm getting at, they refused to throw babies into the Nile River just because their government told them to do it. And you got to ask yourself that question. Like, if they would have listened, you know, would Moses have been alive? If they would You can extrapolate all these different ramifications of it, but the final thing, I'm way over-complicating it, because as you could tell, I've done a lot of scholarship on this. In Romans 13, it says the government is there for your good. The moment any government is no longer there for their good, the social contract that is established in Romans 13 as null and void, people say, well, what are you supposed to submit to the Chinese Communist Party?

No, they're not there for your good. They're not uplifting godliness. In fact, I believe that obedience to tyranny is disobedience to God. And I will stand by that at every turn. Isabel, if you ever thought of it? That's precisely what's so beautiful about the American experiment, by the way, because that social contract is also Nolan Void in our own founding documents the minute our own government becomes too tyrannical.

We don't cite that in the Declaration of Independence very often, but quite literally baked right there into the beginning, is the idea that it is the right and responsibility of the people to rise up against tyranny and to take power back for we, the people, not just those that we elect to represent us in Washington, D.C. Yeah, and I would just say any pastor that throws Romans 13 at you, you should also ask them, are they equally living by Paul's other commandments, Paul's other teaching when it comes to church authority, when it comes to sin?

I find Romans 13 is the most quoted verse for someone that doesn't actually want to fight evil and would rather just have a comfort little spot as a pastor. Thank you very much. Hi, Charlie. One of the things that the other girl talked about before me goes along with my question is, why don't we educate younger children earlier in the church? Because a condom can protect a genital part,

but a condom cannot protect the heart. And that's a quote that I wrote, down 20 years ago. It doesn't. There's more damage in premarital sex. It takes something away from me. Why are we not saying that? Amen. You're totally right. I'll let Isabel go. I don't want to monopolize this, but I waited for marriage. I encourage other people to do that as well. When I go to a college campus, they act as if having limitless abundance on-demand sex is up there with shelter and food for the need to live. You don't need it, actually.

It's better for you not to have it until marriage. And again, this goes back to why Christianity matters in all these discussions. Is sex, I know we have younger people here, so is coitus, is that, is it merely physical, or

are there other things at play? We know that it's spiritual. 100%. And we want it to be entered into the protected shelter and covering of something that is not contractual, but instead is covenantal. We do not do a good enough job of teaching our teenagers the difference between a contractual relationship and a covenantal relationship. Covenants happen all throughout the Bible, and only marriage is given the same parallel to the church. So I'm right there with you, and I wish every pastor in America spoke out against premarital sex once a year. Every pastor should do it, like midsummer. That's all I'm going to say. And our lack of education shows, too. I don't know if we touched upon this this evening yet,

but the abortion rate in America statistically is the same inside and outside of the church in our country. largely because we don't talk about it. We never talk about these relationships. But what's really fascinating is despite the lack of leadership from the church on this issue that I think we both have witnessed over the last several years, the youngest generation of adults is shockingly having statistically extremely low, all-time low levels of premarital sex.

And most of that is in a countercultural response to the brokenness we're seeing in society. We're looking at the misery. We're looking at the heartbreak. We're looking at the statistical probability. statistical probability of divorce and breakups and realizing we don't want that for ourselves. This is the perfect opportunity for the church to swoop in and say there is a better design than whatever this silver platter society is offering to you.

You don't need to keep swiping back and forth on dating apps. You don't need to be chatting with an AI bot for your intimacy, which, shockingly, up to 33% of young adults in places like Washington, D.C., where I live, are doing. They're dating a chat bot on AI. and you certainly don't need to believe this distorted lie that you have a human right to physical intimacy with another person. That is a covenant. It's a gift. It's something we should celebrate, but it's not something to be taken.

And it does incredible damage to women. It damages men, but female liberation has, without a doubt, sexually, been one of the great, undiagnosed, not talked about, traumatic elements of our culture last 30 or 40 years. The more sexual partners that a young woman has, in college, there's all sorts of enormous issues that come alongside of it, and we never talk about it because we think like, oh, it's

freedom and liberty. It's actually not. It creates a ton of issues, not the least of which is guilt and confusion and attachment. It's bad. It's bad altogether. God's design for marriage is right. It's holy. It's covenantal. And we should celebrate and encourage our young people to

aim towards it and save themselves for marriage. Yes, sir. Hi, Charlie. It's good to see you again, Brown's first most seen you. I saw you a few years back in Fox Theater. So my question to you is going further into the abortion debate when it comes to devaluing human life. My belief is a big part of why we had things like school shootings, drug and alcohol abuse, is because they have devalued human life. What do you think about that? Yeah, you're right. I mean, it's a culture of death versus a culture of life. This is why John 1010 is one of my favorite verses, which is

Jesus Christ our Lord said, I have come to give life and life more abundantly. The enemy has come to lie, steal, cheat, and destroy. That's a culture of death. It's a culture of deception versus a culture of life. But look, it all makes sense. We put up with homelessness because we abort our unwanted people, obviously. We don't feed our veterans because we put up with destroying kids in the womb. It creates a callousness. It creates a darkness that cascades over the entire land. And so So one of the, and this is such an important point you make, you cannot just say, well, it's just going to happen in an operating room and we're going to have a million abortions a year and act as if that does not have ramifications throughout your entire society. It has real,

it spreads darkness in every possible realm. I think it even transcends the immediate loss of life in situations like school shootings and actual death. This culture of death devalues the very concept of life and the meaning of it as we're walking through it. It's what has allowed for us to think that it's culturally and societally acceptable to castrate children and to take their futures away from them. It's the culture that allows us to say that I hear all the time on college campuses young women tell me, I wish I had been aborted because I'm anxious, I'm depressed, I have no personal life, I have no friends, I have no intimate relationships, I don't have a relationship with God, my life is meaningless. And that concept of life as a gift, something that we've been

given by God so that we could live it gets taken away from society as well. This revival and this almost renaissance of Western civilization and ideas that we're seeing spread up from young people, I think is this grasp to want life to have meaning again and to live it to the fullest no matter how long it happens to be and to be able to share that with others. And that's what I'm really hopeful for. Thank you. Charlie, everyone here on a constant basis, praise to God for the end of abortion.

how do we get to the endgame where we get science and the judicial system to come together so that life begins at conception because once we have that it becomes illegal and gives that life whether it's an embryo or a fetus human rights how do we get to that point

yes it's a great so let's talk pragmatically and then we'll talk philosophically so I think we're still 30 to 40 years out I'll be honest. We are still a ways out from having the judiciary, which reflects the culture, embrace that. And I can tell you that the belief that life begins at conception is growing, but it's in the vast minority of the nation's population right now.

But also, this is why elections matter, is that, yes, you should pray to end abortion, but you should do something to end abortion. You should elect lawmakers that share your values, actually. And you should be unafraid to get engaged and be salt and light in every possible capacity. And so, yeah, as far as, like, practically, I also think we need to do a better job of financing our movements.

That's why I encourage you guys to give generously to this organization and get this VR project out there. I like it a lot. I loved what they're presenting. But this is going to be a long fight. It's been to be a long haul. It's not going to happen overnight. Understand, of all the issues that the bad guys care of,

about. This one has an energy to it, almost a life force. That's a really sick way to put it, isn't it? It's almost, it's what keeps them going, and I'll just say this, and I'll throw it to Isabel. When you study the Aztecs and the Mayans and the Inkins, then you study the Egyptians. So two civilizations that had no contact with each other, then you study the Indus River Valley, then you study the Chinese, you study the Mesopotamians, they all had child sacrifice. The one thing that united the ancient world is that they would sacrifice their young

and do so repeatedly. You can go to Africa right now and there are tribes that just leave their babies by the fire and let them cry to death. It happens all the time. I think that there is a pagan, demonic energy. I can't quite put my finger on it, but there's a reason why Molek is mentioned

all throughout the Old Testament that is a sustaining darkness of this enemy that we're trying to fight, where they just can't release the idea of possibly sacrificing children. That's why Jesus was so clear about not harming children, because Jesus knew the spiritual implications of what happens when you go after the least of these. So, Isabel. Beautifully said, I couldn't have added anything more meaningful than that, but I think that really centers around something that we often are afraid to talk about as Christians, and it's the reality

that evil is real. Demonic forces are real. Satan is real. And there is a spiritual warfare constantly raging around us, whether we think about it or not, because we can't physically often see it in our realm, but it is happening right here in this very room. Right. And so I think we're getting a lot more honest about it societally, especially from the evil side. There are at least two satanic ritual abortion centers in America now. One is in New Mexico and one is in Maine. And they are challenging the judiciary side of this by saying that this is their legal and constitutional right under the concept of freedom of religion to sacrificially end the lives of these children in worship of Satan. They're honest about this. And I think we sometimes can take it a little too

far as Christians calling everything demonic. Is every Taylor Swift song actually demonic? No, probably. Not all of them. Not all of them. And so we laugh and we roll our eyes when, Aunt Sue said the latest thing was demonic, but this is quite literally worship of Satan. I mentioned this at our dinner, but there's an amazing activist in the pro-life space named Seth Gruber, who does great work encouraging young men to get more involved in this space. And he said in a clip that's regoing viral every six months or so, there is a reason that abortion uses a twisted, sick, demonic evil version of the Eucharist of Communion, because Jesus is the pure manifestation of laying down your life for the sake of others,

to embrace pure innocence, to embrace pure redemption from sin and to pay the full price for all humanity. Satan, in his very deceptive ways, loves to twist and deceive and lie, and uses those same words for abortion, this is my body. Not giving up for you. This is my body, my choice. This is my body for only the sake of me. I have a right to this. I get to do this.

This is my choice, my responsibility, my truth. And it's disgusting, it's depraved. But the more we can unlock that secret to it, the more I think we can understand how to beat the left at their own game with this, because it has to start with honesty. We often say in the pro-life space that in order to make abortion gone from society,

it takes two things. It makes abortion illegal, hopefully, and there are great people fighting that fight every day. But more importantly, in a much harder battle, is to make abortion unthinkable. And that starts with, exposing the darkness of Satan and bringing it into the light. Thank you so much.

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Hi, Mr. Kirk. It's a honor to meet you. I've been watching you for two years, and I gave my life to Christ about a year ago. Praise the Lord. God bless you, man. It's phenomenal. I'm 14. I just went to high, I've just started high school, and I'm wondering, how can I, as a young Christian man, go into the world when literally in one of my classrooms, one of my teacher has two pride flags. It's all destigmatized. It's all, it's all evil. And they have destigmatized all evil. And as someone who's genuinely terrified to enter adulthood and everything, how can I keep, how can I keep, how can I keep myself from falling and from help to help others from falling? Wow. Okay. Firstly, I think we have a table or some representatives here.

Yeah, there he is. We have the nation's largest high school program called Club America, brought to you by Turning Point USA. We'd love to have you start a Club America. Who's anyone running Club America groups here? I see a couple of hands going up. Awesome. And so you should start one. I have a couple thoughts.

I'm going to go quick because I know we're running out of time. Number one, everybody in the room. that should motivate you to get off your tail that a young man has to go see this ridiculous pride imagery where your taxpayers are funding that school, it's a public school, right? Yeah, where your taxpayers are funding that? Like, shame on us for tolerating this. And we shouldn't put up with that at all, actually.

It's disgusting that you have to go through that. And number three, here's my message to you, though. Don't play the victim. Number one, you gave your life to Christ. So you have a spirit of courage. not a fear. You have the Holy Spirit with you. Number two, I'm going to speak right into your life. You get a chance to go through obstacles that many people in this room will never go through. You're going to become tougher. You're going to become smarter. You're going to become wiser.

You're going to know your stuff more. And yet, you might get, you know, beat across the jaw, hopefully not literally. But you never know, you know, the purple-haired jihadis. They can be rather violent. So, no, so you met them out there. Yeah, I'm sure they're welcoming. So, but listen, you as a young Christian, you're signing up for something with ultimate aims and purposes. But when you're 24, when you're 34, you're going to look back to when you were 14, you're like, man, that was hard, but that made me the man that I am today. And so you, you're in a blessed position, even though it's hard. Read your Bible every single day. Do what the Bible tells you to do.

That's number two. And then number three, tell people what the Bible says. That's it. read your Bible every single day do what the Bible tells you to do and then tell other people what the Bible says those three things you're going to be just fine as you go to school in Sodom and Gomorrah God bless you and to challenge Charlie's modesty and humility here keep listening to Charlie Kirk because you should be at 14 years old parents think that they shouldn't expose their children to these ideas but there is without a doubt no one else in our country that has made a bigger impact on young men to transform Western civilization 14 years

years old is the perfect time to be listening. Very sweet. I think we have time for two or three more. Let's go fath. Hi. Well, first of all, when you said for that little boy to create a chapter, I was just prodded to become president of the first

chapter at my college by Lincoln over here. Praise God, congratulations. My question for you, both of you, is for a young woman like me, I just graduated high school, so I'm in my first year of college. I know you don't like that. Charlie.

I'll get over it. So I want to get married and have a family, and I want to do that as soon as possible, but right now that doesn't seem to be in the near future. Do you have any words of advice or words of encouragement for young women like me and men to, what do we do in the meantime while we're trying, what we want to build that family and grow those lives? What do we do in the meantime? Because I don't want to be at college.

to be at college. I'm really doing it to fill time because it's really hard to find a job. But you want to be a mom? But I want to be a mom. Yeah. What do I do in the meantime? And, like, how do I stay strong in that? First of all, I'm going to let Isabel answer this first. Then I'll do second. God bless you for want to be a mom. I want more women of America to want to be moms. You're a hero and you deserve praise for that. Isabel. I am so inspired by your vocation to marriage and motherhood. And I hear this, by the way, from more young women every single day across this country. Do not. not believe that women hate marriage and babies.

We want it very, very badly. It's just that our society is screaming at us not to. We do a lot of work, encouraging marriage as a really important foundation for Western civilization. And I think sometimes the conservative political world often says, hurry up and get married, hurry up and get married. You're losing time. You're 20 years old. Just as important as reviving marriage societally at the individual level, it's very important

to marry the right person. And you cannot force that yourself. the Holy Spirit will make it incredibly obvious when you meet your spouse who that person is supposed to be like every young woman I think I threw in the towel in dating five or six years into it and said yeah I'm horrible at this I can't make the right decisions God you take it away I prayed that the one thing I ask is that you make it incredibly obvious to me when I meet my husband that that's the man I'm supposed to spend my life with pray for that pray for your own spiritual development that you can become a

beautiful wife and mom when God does bless you with that and spend time praying for your future spouse. They are out there. They're a real person, even if they seem like an abstract idea to you. But prayer really is our first line of offense in building strong families and making sure we can bring God back to that nuclear reality of Western civilization again. It's a great question. I'm just going to say this is completely anecdotal, but I think it's generally right if you extrapolate it. When people get divorces, I always ask them, did you have any doubts going in? A large majority say yes. They had a doubt that they ignored. They suppressed. someone said something so when you go and marry any of those doubt surface you need to really run them down

you to pray about them you need to get biblical counseling to see if that's the enemy trying to derail you from something holy or maybe something that actually is your instinct telling you to not go into that not rush into that again that's completely anecdotal but when i meet people that have divorced and some people divorce for totally necessary reasons right so i'm not even commenting on that i always asked like did you have yeah you know i saw something when we were engaged and i should have said something to a counselor So just know that going in. But honestly, where are you going to college? Okay.

It's not the worst. I get so much hate for this, but I'm going to say it again because it's true. There's nothing wrong with getting an MRS degree and going to college to meet your husband. If it's the most important thing in your life, why would you not go and meet an attractive, you know, young, fertile, conservative, Christian man who has just been. going into his high earning potential, if that's the most important thing for you. Last question. Hi. My question is in regards to...

This will be the last one, then we got to dash. Okay, my question is in regards to the medical system and what you guys see as future projects. Quick, quick story is that my mother had me just close to my daughter's age as a teenager. got brought up Catholic, told her parents, they said get an abortion, she ended up having me. But because of that, they kicked her out, and she had no place to go. We were brought up on food stamps, medical, that kind of good stuff. And so our primary care was Planned Parenthood.

That's where we went for our primary care. And they put me on birth control before I was even having sex or before I even started my period. And I think it had a really bad hormonal effect on me. me, and I wasn't able to have kids, and finally I had her. She's my miracle baby. Praise God. I know in the school systems, they're pushing birth control, not getting pregnant.

I don't want to ever put her on birth control because of what I've gone through. How do we stop that type of thing happening? I'm so glad you brought this up, because birth control is my single greatest crusade right now. The New York Times calls me an anti-birth control activist, and I wear it like a badge of honor. Like most young Christian women, though, shockingly, I'm quite transparent about this, I was on hormonal birth control for nine years. I was not prescribed it to prevent pregnancy. I was not sexually active. Like every teenage girl in America, I was prescribed hormonal birth control for acne. I was taking acutane, and the government mandatorily required that you

have two forms of birth control. One could be abstinence, and the other one had to be the actual pill. Every doctor in my life ever told me, well, you're going to get really fat, your acne's going to come back. You're going to hate your life. You're going to be super depressed. Let's just stay on it. It's good for you. It's a magic pill. It is not. This is slow release poison that we are giving to the next generation of women that is altering our emotional status, our mental status. It's changing our relationships. New studies are coming out that we are attracted to more effeminate men when we're all taking birth control. Gee, I wonder who could have possibly predicted that in society and explain so much of where we got here. This is a contagion that has

impacted an entire generation, and no one even bothered to do the research. Now the research is coming out, and we owe it to moms like you to save the next generation from the hell that we had to be put through. What a great answer. Thank you. I don't have much to add on to that. We need to glorify abstinence more in the church, and we don't do it enough. Closing is about, final thought is about then I'll close it up. I'm just so inspired to see all of you here and making a difference. You know, Charlie said this evening, just by being here, you're doing something to advance the mission of protecting life and the dignity of the human person. But every one of you has a sphere of influence. You might not have the radio audience and the television audience and the

speaking audience that Charlie has. You might not go make TikToks on your phone for a living all day every day to a blue check mark audience of over a million people. But you do have people you sit next to in church. You have people that live in your college dorm with you. You have extended family members to talk about this around the Thanksgiving dinner table. We have to destigmatize the idea of talking about the abortion industry because our silence is what has allowed this genocide to take place throughout my lifetime. But with enough showing up day after day after day in 30 years or 40 years or 50 years, just like it took for Roe to be overturned, we have the capacity to rid abortion from society in our lifetime. It just starts with us.

I don't have much to add to that. Isabel, very proud of everything you're doing, most importantly, for being a mom. You've got another Turning Point USA amazing success story. Look, you guys, my final charge to you guys, know Jesus and make him known and make this region of the world, even though you've got a lot of problems in the state, to be more glorifying to Jesus, save more babies, you know, influence the laws and the ways that are going to glorify God, and most importantly, raise up your children in ways that are biblical, that are patriotic, get them involve with Turning Point USA, get them involved with Club America, you know, listen to the right stuff. The next generation is literally going to save this nation.

and this country. And I love coming to this part of the world. You guys are always so warm and welcoming. And we had a great event a couple years ago, I think, at the Fox Theater. And so I just want to say, you're all the best. Thank you. Support this very important organization. Give money tonight. Give something. Give 50 cents. Give a dollar. Chip something in so that they can continue their important work of advocating for those that can't advocate for themselves. God bless you guys. And thank you to Larry. Thank you. For having us. God bless you. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.