The Charlie Kirk Show - Why We Can't Abandon America's Cities

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

Is Trump's anti-crime offensive in D.C. a political winner? Why is it important for conservatives to care about cities that will never vote Republican no matter what happens? Charlie delves into the topic with both Alex Marlow and Sen. Rick Scott. Plus, they both react to the continued rise of Zohran Mamdani, his prospects for turning New York into New Havana, and why it's an idiotic cope for Republicans to hope for the far left to win elections. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey, everybody. Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio. Alex Marlow joins us about the federalization of D.C.C. Scott about Mamdani and how we flip blue cities to red and so much more. Email us, as always, freedom at charliecirk.com. Subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast page. That is the Charlie Kirk Show podcast page. And get involved today with Turning Point USA at TPUSA.com. That is tpUSA.com. Buckle up, everybody here. We go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

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to take me at my word or take Andrew Cuomo at his. You need to only look at the actions of the Trump administration since I won the Democratic primary. How else can you describe a president who has proposed denaturalizing the Democratic nominee of New York City? How else can you describe a president who has sought to entertain suggestions of deporting me, of arresting me, of taking control of the city over the will of New Yorkers? Those are the actions of a president who is afraid of the fact that I will actually deliver in a manner where he is simply betrayed. Joining us is Senator Rick Scott.

Senator, your response to Mr. Mamdani's obsession with Donald Trump. Well, what President Trump is doing is he's deciding he cares about this country. So look at Montgomery. I mean, here's a kid that has funny money, and he's running like he cares about people. I heard the, did you hear the rumor that the first action is going to take if he wins is to change the name in New York to New Havana? Because that's exactly what's going to happen. He says he wants the wrong grocery store.

He should go look at the grocery stores in Havana. They're empty of groceries. They're empty of groceries. He probably wasn't bringing in the health care system from Havana. It means you don't get health care. Oh, except if you're the elite, if you're part of the cashier regime, it's just like all these places that have socialism. The elite get it. They get everything.

And by the way, how do they keep their power? They put people in prison. Go ahead and ask Jose Daniel Farrar. and about 1,400 peaceful protesters. Three years ago, they peaceably protest, and they were all in prison, maybe for the rest of your life as young as 14 years old. So if my nominee wins, it's new Havana, no groceries, no health care, you say the wrong thing, they're going to go after you. And so the sinister nature of this is so many New Yorkers seem to want to support this. And in some ways, Florida is to blame because the patriotic New Yorkers are moving to Florida.

Therefore, you're left with a remnant of communist, Marxist, Islamist, Mohammedan voters in the city of New York. We must fight for our blue cities. It's very tempting to say, oh, forget our blue cities. This kind of ties in with the federalization of Washington, D.C., which I want to get your comment on in a second. But can you just reiterate why we should not surrender and retreat away. from our biggest blue cities. We have to, we have to go into every neighborhood and talk to every citizen and every voter and explain why we are better for them.

We are better for you. I grew up in public housing. I know what it's like to live in public housing. It's better under capitalism than it is under socialism. Give me the chance. The dream of this country, the idea of America is that you can start from anywhere and live the dream. You don't, you don't share the wealth by people take.

taken away wealth. You share the wealth by giving people opportunity. But we have to go in and talk to people. I went to Harvard about two or three months ago and talk to the students. They agree when you sit down with them and say, do you believe the, do you want people to get free everything and not have to work? No, you're going to have to pay for it. How's that good for this country? So I think we can go win. We've been able to do it in Florida. Think what happened in Florida in 2010 when I won the governor's race, there are $569,000 more D's. than ours. And now there's 1.3 million more ours and deeds. What happened is, we elected people that ran and said, we're going to take care of you, your job, your kids' education, public safety. So if Republicans go talk

about those things and actually do those things, we will win blue cities. We've been able to do it around Florida. We'll be able to do it all across the country. And it's from citizens. And if nothing else, you are not a nation if you just surrender your biggest cities. You're nothing more than just dominating the outskirts. And by the

way. But hold on. We care about the citizens. No, we care about exactly. But can you also talk about the success of Miami? 15 years ago, Miami was kind of written off as a permanently blue city. It was wildly corrupt. Look, Miami has a lot of problems. But it's in a far better place, a far safer direction, a far more prosperous direction, a far more livable direction. Because you in Florida, Senator, you guys went all in and you guys reached. out to the Venezuelan community, the Cuban community, but also you had a pro-freedom agenda. 20 years ago, Miami-Dade was the blue stronghold of the American southeast, and now it is a Republican county. What can we learn from the Miami takeover or switch, I should say, and apply it to other blue cities? Go up. In 2010, when I ran, okay, Republicans have basically given up on Miami, and I didn't. I spent week after week after. week talking to everybody Miami about what I want to accomplish, how I wanted to get them a job,

improve their kids' education, make sure they were safe. And we went from losing Miami bid to in the 2020-24 cycle, we were able to win by 10 points. And we have our new sheriff is Republican, the Supervisor Election Republican. I mean, all of our constitutional officers at the county level are all Republicans now, because we went all in for what we believe in. So this is all doable, all across the country. You have the right message, the right candidates, and show up and talk to people. They agree with this. All across this country, people agree with this. They don't want socialism. They take Miami. People left these places to get away from socialism. They want opportunity. Give me my shot, giving my chance to live the dream. That's what they want. And it's, again, the transformation of Miami-Dade County. I remember as it was happening, James Carville was freaking out, as he should, because it changed the entire.

dynamics of the state of Florida. And so we now look at New York. We look at D.C. I do want to get your comments on the senator. President Donald Trump has now invoked the home rule designation. He is federalizing Washington, D.C. and quote, we will bring the military if needed. What is, I mean, you spend a lot of time in Washington, D.C. Is D.C. safe, number one. And then number two, do you support this move by President Trump? Well, first off, D.C. is not safe. People don't just walk the streets in D.C. and feel safe anywhere around D.C. I mean, I've got to be careful and what I do, but we've got people in my office that are very careful about where they go. So this is great what Donald Trump is doing.

I'm on a bill with Mike Lee that Congress would take this back. So the person is doing what Congress should be doing. We should be taking this back. So I'm very thankful. Guess what? This is going to be a place where I can tell my grandkids, hey, you want to come here and enjoy the city now. Before, I would have to say, oh, you can come here, but you've got to be very careful.

You can't be out after dark. You've got to be careful going to a restaurant or anything after dark. So this, he's going to change dramatically, D.C. It's going to be great. It is a symbol of national decline and a mockery that our nation's capital is more dangerous than Bogota, Mexico City, Islamabad. Washington, D.C. is more dangerous than Mexico City, Bogota, Islamabad. Lima. I mean, it is a disaster. And I think we should give Washington, D.C. to Maryland for a very important reason. It takes off the 51st state conversation, except for the national monuments.

I want to dive more into this. But for no other reason then, if you do not have control over your nation's capital, you are not a nation. And you have almost every day you have young, innocent people that are mugged, carjackings, crime. It is an outrageous testament to the failure of our ruling class as they are willing to spend hundreds of billions of dollars abroad on foreign wars while our own nation's capital is unlivable. Look, I know there are a lot of choices when it comes to who you choose for your cell phone service.

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completely mess this up. We still have over 150 of President Trump's nominees that are in paralysis that are frozen. Senator, what is going to be the plan come September to unfreeze and to move President Trump's necessary nominees? Because here's the way that I view it and the audience views it. It is a disgrace and a subversion to the democratic process when you win an election, but you can't staff your government for almost an entire year. That is theft. of an administration. Republicans then do it to Democrats. Democrats are doing it to us, but what are we doing to fight fire with fire and play smash-mouth politics? Senator Rick Scott. Well, number one, we've got to understand the Democrats. This is all Democrats' fault.

They've decided just make sure Trump does not get his team in place. This has never happened before. It's only being done to Donald Trump. And so we have two choices. One, we can stay there every day, and we should say there are as many days as it takes to get this done. Number two is we've got to change the rules. Some of these nominees probably don't need to have Senate confirmation. That's number one. Number two is we're going to have to shorten the time. What they are doing is not really using it to vet these, you know, the nominees. They're using it just to slow things down. So we've got to say, okay, so what we're going to do is we're going to, we'll stop the vote, but we're going to do these votes every 10 minutes. We're just going to, we're going to roll through

these every 10 minutes. So, and we'll get them all done because it's just being used as an obstruction not to actually do their job to vet a candidate. That's what the Democrats are doing. So I'm very hopeful we'll get this fixed. Trump's got to get his team in place. Yeah, we need to get our nominees, period. End of story.

We need to get our people in place. It is an outrage that we have not been able to do it. Senator, one final question here as we proceed. What are the other big fights, spending fights, rescission packages, things that we need to know of on the Senate calendar for the remainder of this calendar year because unfortunately, as you know, the Senate is full a bunch of gutless wonders that as soon as an election year kicks in, very little will happen. So we have a little bit of time left on the clock. What are the big things that we need to know about the U.S. Senate and

fights looming into the fall? Well, the big fights are going to be these. Number one is that we're going to have a budget done by the end of September. It sure doesn't look like it when we haven't pass our budget bills. So that'll be the, so government will be shut down if we don't then do a continuing resolution. Historically, what they do under Mitch McConnell, what the Republicans and Democrats together would do is they would say, oh, we'll talk about it for the next several months, we'll do it right before Christmas. And then you use the Christmas, right before Christmas, they come up with a bill that four people had decided, all right, to Republicans, two Democrats, and be a blowout spending bill. So the commitment is we're not.

going to do that this time, but that's historically what they're doing. So one, is the government going to get shut down September 30? 100% Democrats' fault if it happens because they will not allow us to pass appropriation bills. Number, that's the first thing will happen. Number two, if we do, when are we actually going to pass the budget? So my goal is, is one, my first goal would be, let's get the budget done and let's balance the budget. Okay, if that's not going to happen, then let's do, let's don't be doing this every two weeks. Let's just give us a condition. resolution for the next year because we know the Democrats are never going to work with this. Let's don't have some big blowout spending bill at Christmas. Senator, I look, I'll just

say on the spending component of this, we need to cut spending. This is the last, this is going to be the big fight. And the grassroots has been very patient. And I know the president agrees with this and the president's on board. We had to do the one big, big beautiful bill thing. We did do debt ceiling. We have heard on this program, it's a running joke, five years of excuses as to why we can't have a throw-down spending fight. We need to have an all-out spending fight because the budget fight can apply to every single dollar on the U.S. budget where the big beautiful bill, that was a reconciliation. Is that correct, Senator? The budget is where we can get down to every line item, Senator. Yeah. The reconciliation bill was only mandatory spending. The budget

bill is the discretionary spending. We've got to do both. So it looks like we might have another opportunity on the reconciliation. But we could, we could take things back under the budget process and say, we're going to look at these things every year, just like you do. You don't say, oh, I'm for sure always going to spend that money. You look at every line on it. So the budget process should give us the opportunity to look at every line in the budget. That's what Ron Johnson and others and I are trying to do. Let's go through every line and figure out the waste and get rid of it. Balance the budget. We have to balance the budget today. And the president, Trump's credit, we're bringing in new revenue through tariffs. And we are. That's legit. We have to

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and thus crime, vandalism. It is an embarrassment, a national disgrace. The city is a lot of potential. It is where people convene like it or not, just by nature the fact that it's our nation's capital. It is the city that is broadcast to the world as the most representative of the United States, like it or not. A lot of days not, but that's just a reality. And it's one of these places where if we do this right, we could have a safe, beautiful capital that the world admires. And Donald Trump is a keen eye for this stuff. He has a mechanism to change it. So why wouldn't he? This is the outside of the box thinking that I love about Donald Trump, because why would he tolerate something that's second tier in America? He's a cheerleader for this

country. And if you look at the way D.C. has gone in recent years, it's gotten more crime addled, more dirty, and somehow more expensive at the same time. It's totally unpleasant to go there. I used to live there and I used to love living there. It's been the center of the world for so long, really since Barack Obama's kind of been the center of the world. Let's go clean it up and let's get some points doing it. Well, and look, exactly. So they're already going to, they're already calling him a fascist, blah, blah, blah, whatever. We don't care. This is about a nation's capital. By the way, if you go to Singapore, you go to, you go to, Tokyo, you go to Seoul, South Korea, you go to any of the great Asian capitals, they wouldn't

put up with what we have here at all, period, whatsoever. And why have we put up with such crime, endangerment, slum activity all throughout? And it's a combination of not just the homelessness and the drug use and the maniacs, because I was just in D.C. recently, and it was just a bunch, it was terrible. But also, it is a very violent city. Why have we put up with it for so long? Okay. So it's a one-party town. So the Democrats run the city. So if they choose to start actually prosecuting crimes, they start trying to hold people to account and to not release all the criminals onto the streets, then what that's going to lead to is a short-term uptick in crime statistics, which is bad. That's an admission of failure. So they're never going to do that. So politically, they have to allow for all the crime to continue because to address it would necessitate admitting that it was bad to begin with. They're never going to do that. because the left is so political, they would rather see crime than have a short-term, you know, hit

in the polls over this issue. The other thing is the left, they love chaos. They're agents of chaos. They don't want to see a law and order society. They don't want to see our nation preserved and conserved in terms of the values you and I champion on a daily basis, Charlie. So they're not going to be the ones to take the initiative. The only chance you've got is conservative as Republicans doing it from the perch of the presidency, to be honest with you. And any prior Republican president that we've had in my lifetime would never have been able to fight through any of the name calling and the outrage and the hand-wringing that we're about to witness. But it doesn't matter. Trump's got a soldier through and he's got to get this done. Talk about the politics of it.

How will this be received politically where the media will call him a fascist home rule and all that? And also, no one's talking about the tourism angle. Hundreds of thousands of young kids visit Washington, D.C. every year on school trips, high school trips, middle school trips. We want them to see something they're proud of, and it does something to the psyche. I could say this as someone who's been at DC, Alex, I mean, numerous hundreds of times when you get out of Reagan and you drive through or Dulles where you fly in, and you just see slums and you see tents and you, it just, it brings down your soul. It's depressing. It's depressing. So I lived in the, yeah, I lived in the foggy bottom area for about four years or so.

And my typical day, I would involve me, roll that on my apartment. running down to the Lincoln Memorial, running along the Potomac River, running through iconic Georgetown with the cobblestone streets, on Prospect Avenue, which was, you know, from the scenes from The Exorcist, I always loved used to doing that in the fall. It was such a blast, Charlie.

By the time I left, it was Black Lives Matter Time. All the stores were boarded up. Everyone was bummed out because of stupid coronavirus masks. There are riots all the time. There are people marching down the street, making all sorts of noise for no reason. There's no reason it has to be that way. It wasn't that long ago that D.C. was at least tolerable.

and we can make it beautiful again. We can make D.C. great again. I mean, it's a cliche for a reason. We can absolutely do that. Trump's got the power to do it. And I'll tell you, if he succeeds, he'll get a lot of credit. Because even people on the left, I think we'll admit to some degree that this could be done and the people in charge now will not address it. We have long said here on this program, the future of MAGA and the future of this movement will go through the reclamation of our major cities. That doesn't mean we have to make New York MAGA or L.A. MAGA. But you must be able to have dominion and control and authority over America's greatest cities.

If we want to just be an outskirt movement, look, if we want to just control the Midland, Texas, the Oklahoma cities, there's nothing wrong with that, but it's incomplete. It is incomplete because then basically you are the master of the hinterlands, which again is not an insult, beautiful parts of the country,

but we need to go into the fire. Is it time, then, Alex, if we have a successful model in Washington, D.C., to replicate this in other cities, It's a little bit harder, obviously, because you have home rule designation in D.C. But is it time for us to start to roll in the tanks to Chicago? Is it time for us to sign the Insurrection Act in Los Angeles? What are we putting up with and why?

Talk about how this might be the entry point to a broad reclamation project of the third worldification to liberate New York, Chicago, Atlanta, Philadelphia, L.A. So, yeah, I'll talk philosophically. and then I know some lawyers are going to have to back me up on the legal side, because I don't know how much of this could actually get done. But from my perspective, it doesn't make sense that we have the strongest, most advanced, most technologically savvy fighting forces in the world, and yet we allow for our cities to be war zones. It doesn't make sense to me.

And I'm not saying that we want to have, you know, a massive military presence in our city because that'll defeat the purpose of what I'm talking about anyway, which is that I would like for our cities to be a place where culture is thriving, not where people are fearing for their lives when they walk down the block to get a sandwich. But the point is, is that if we have resources that are able to clean up some of these problems, maybe it's the fentanyl issue

because it's connected to the illegal immigration. Maybe it's what they're doing with ICE in Los Angeles. Maybe that's the place to start. But I would look for opportunities around the edges first and then maybe broader from there to try to set the standard that in this country we have great thriving cities. I'll tell you, I live a suburban life

where I walk to school with my children and I don't live near a major metropolitan center. I'll tell you on weekends, Charlie, when you want to eat and shop, you go down to the city and you're fearful there. They got better restaurants, but you're worried about whether or not something is going to happen to you when you're in your car. It's going to break into your car. It shouldn't be the case in this country.

We should have a higher standard than that. And for Republicans, we can't just opt out. We have to be part of the solution. And part of that is the concern of the major cities. Can you speak to those some people would say, Alex, and our audience, forget it. Let New York be New York, let L.A. be L.A. Not our problem. Why is it our problem? Why is if we articulate, if we are articulating the domestic maga doctrine, this nationalist populist project that you and I have been under, you know, working on 10 years, why do the cities

matter? And why should, how do you respond to a skeptic? They're blue, their Democrats, let it burn. How do you respond? First of all, I think the premise of the city, even though I don't like of the walkable cities, some of the green stuff, and some of the hideous architecture in a lot of our modern cities. So there's a lot of negative stuff I can say. But overall, when a lot of us think nostalgically at our favorite era of America, we weren't just, it wasn't just because we had great government. It's because we had great culture. And a lot of that culture does take place in the cities, and that's exported around the world. And I think that that's generally a good thing in a vacuum. And so to abandon the cities is to abandon the opportunity for us to be the cultural

leaders on the earth. So I think that that's, that is a major premise. But another thing is more of a practical human populist level, which is that a lot of jobs, you need to either be in a city or be in proximity to a city. Not every job, but a lot of them do. And so to act as though we don't care is to abandon parts of our coalition, abandon a lot of MAGA voters. If you look out in California, you know, we've got a lot of horrible cities, but we've got the highest volume of maga voters of any state. It's not enough to win elections yet, maybe one day. But, but, but But there's so many of us here who have the same values as you who are living a peaceful suburban or rural life. So I don't think you should abandon your fellow man because a thriving American city provides economic opportunity, provides cultural opportunity.

And I just like the idea that we want to be excellent. We want to raise the bar. That should be the standard for America. We should try to be excellent every possible way. Yeah. And that's part of the entire federalization of Washington, D.C. because it's also the nation's capital and it's gotten so much worse throughout the years and then the good people like you leave the good people like Benny Johnson leave and what are you

left with you're left with criminals and wokeys and criminals and wokeies they don't make a good city they do not it is a symbol of national decline we need to go back to the 1990s where we had where we had tough on crime type policy The Democrats like Karen Bass and Brandon Johnson, they're going to respond, just by weaponized name calling, obvious subversion of this. But I hope it is a contrast for anybody listening. It should be unacceptable if you cannot walk your great cities at night. Unacceptable, period.

You can walk the streets of Tokyo at night. You can walk the streets of Seoul, South Korea. You can walk the streets of Singapore. You can walk the streets of Kuala Lampur. But why can you not walk the streets of Washington? D.C. because our leaders chose it. Yeah, I love your point that it's a symbol of national decline. Are we a society with high standards who believes in excellence, or are we not? And it is obviously a symbol that things are going the wrong direction. What my favorite refrains is

how's it going or how we do it? When we experiment with things, are we feeling better about things after we've done them for a few years? And if the answer is no, then why not run in the other direction? It's a you'd be a highly motivated person to try to solve these problems. They're hard problems and a lot of the people there don't want them solve them, fortunately. But that's no reason to stop. We got to keep trying. We got to make our cities excellent again. America's small businesses rely on TikTok to succeed. We go viral on TikTok reaching billions of young people every year. It's one of the reasons why we were able to win the youth vote. Well, TikTok helps businesses attract more customers and drive growth. From small batch sellers to fast

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Brightbart News is with us. Let's play this. This is George Will on Bill Marr talking about blue cities and how he hopes that Mom Donnie wins in New York. You see, this is an old archaic relic way of thinking about politics. Oh, once we hit rock bottom, people will realize it. There's some truth. to that on the national scale like Biden gave us Trump, there's actually the opposite data to show

that in cities. They just get bluer and more dysfunctional because the decent people leave. Play cut 313. And on the other side, you have the guy running in New York, Mandami, right? Okay, who's like a straight up communist. I mean, he is. He talks about, you know, the things that communists say. I mean, he wants free grocery stores, free buses. I want him to win. You want him to win. Yeah. I think every 20 years or so. Wait. Every 20 years or so, we need a conspicuous, confined experiment with socialism so we can crack it up again. This is a failed way of thinking. If that's the case, people would have learned their lesson in Chicago. Nope, the suburbs of Chicago became bluer. They would have learned their lessons in Philadelphia. They would learn their

lessons in LA. They would have learned their lessons in San Francisco or Portland or Seattle or L.A. None of that is true. Some people, like George Will, he just loves losing. It's a cope. It's always tempting, but then you get good people who flee. Alex Marlow. My first take is what's George Will doing? Why is he out there? I had enough of George Will when I came in his business 17 years ago. It's just a market's all these great guests. Why George Will? I guess I don't know. Maybe he got what he wanted for because everyone's playing this clip. I will say one thing about George Wildow before he goes. He hasn't aged a day. I got to tell you, like

it's actually pretty remarkable. Keep going. Yeah, he looks like he's in his late 70s now. He looked like he was in his late 70s 40 years ago also. So he does have that strange luck. No, I it's the, he doesn't know he's talking about. I don't know why. I don't think anyone's listening to him, but it's an interesting thought exercise

with Mamdani in particular because the nature of the rest of the field is that it feels like Andrew Cuomo is just such a uniquely horrible candidate. And this is what disturbs me about this whole race is that Curtis Leeua seems like a nice guy runs every time he doesn't win. And then Eric Adams seemed like he actually was amenable to coming around to a lot of what Trump is doing. And he's polling it literally nothing. He's

almost nothing in the polls, which is very disturbing to me. So Charlie, do you have this mapped out in your head? Because this is one that gets confusing to me by the day. We all know Mamdani is a he's a charlatan. He is a fake. He's not who he says he is. He's a, avowed communists. I mean, these are the seeds of the means of production. This is true communism. He's got those strange toilet bowl white teeth, which you never get that in a communist society. You can only get that in a capitalist society. So he's a very strange person overall. But Cuomo, you see what he's going to do? He wants to now kick the rich people out of the rent-controlled houses. But the problem is everyone's broke in New York anyway because it's too expensive.

That's not a good idea. He's got all these terrible ideas. So who's going to run the place? Well, a bunch of bureaucrats will end up running the city. And look, the point is this. There was a guy named Coleman Hughes, is that right, Blake? Yeah. Coleman Hughes from Detroit, his stated political idea, his mission was to drive the good people out of Detroit so that he hung on to power. This is what George Will doesn't understand, is that there are some people that will govern, they will govern in a way. Coleman Young, not Coleman Hughes. Thank you, Blake. Coleman Young, I was close.

Coleman Hughes is a writer. Coleman, that's why I got to confuse. Coleman Young was the mayor of Detroit. And his stated goal, well, that's stated, but his whole idea that we'd get revealed later was that kick ever, basically make it so unpleasant, but I hold on to power. I will rule over the ashes. I will be the mayor over a destroyed city. I will be a mayor over Dresden after the bombing. It will be a terrible place to live, but I'm in charge.

I'm the mayor. And that's what Mom Donnie will do. He'll make it so unpleasant. He'll make it so awful of a place to live. and then he'll end up being the king. Some people want to be the king of the ashes, and that is Mom Dani. Alex, we have to go.

Great job. See you later. Bright Bart News, Alex Marlow. Thanks, Charlie. Thanks so much for listening. Everybody, email us, as always, Freedom at Charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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