The Charlie Kirk Show - Will Democrats Ever Be Proud to be American Again?

Episode Date: October 29, 2025

A top Democrat writer has a suggestion: Democrats should try liking America! Turns out it's not that easy. Blake and Danny explain how the left has addicted itself to the politics of anti-Americanism and has hobbled its political fortunes in the process. Cliff Maloney also joins to rally the troops for the final week of GOTV in New Jersey and Virginia. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We have a lot coming ahead today. We're in the final week before the Virginia and New Jersey elections, which people have wanted us to be rallying the troops for that. We're going to rally the troops for that. We'll be having Cliff Maloney on later on. And we'll also be having Dr. Larry Arnd to talk about Charlie's views on education, which were very different, but very rewarding, very positive. And we also want to look ahead to our event tonight. We have probably the biggest event in our turning point tour this fall. It's going on tonight in Ole Miss in Oxford, Mississippi. Erica is going to be there. The vice president is going to be there, J.D. Vance. I think A lot of the team is out there. Andrew's there. That's why I'm in this chair. I think Mikey's going to be out there. Basically, they sent all of our top talent over there,

and they left us to hold down the fort. But we're going to do our best here. That event is going to be at 6 p.m. Eastern time tonight, 5 o'clock Central. I think Fox is going to be carrying it. Yeah, they are. And probably RAV, too, hopefully. And it'll be online, too, I imagine.

Lots of possible ways to watch it. We encourage you guys to tune into that. Catch Erica and the Vice President. But what we want to talk about is a chart that we saw yesterday that was really, really jarring and very revealing about the state of modern American politics. So to set this up, there's a commentator who's popular on the, not even the far left. He's kind of the center technocratic left sort of people, the Silicon Valley set. His name is Noah Smith, which is really funny because our own video guy is also named Noah Smith. Very different, very different Noah Smith that we have around here.

So this Noah Smith guy, he has a very popular substack. I think he makes $300,000 a month and subscribers to that. He's also a very funny guy. He had to, I think he had to get therapy to be attractive to women. Very funny background stuff there. I don't want to get into all of that. But he had a tweet that went viral the other day where he said the way Democrats should try to win elections is they should try to like America. I'm not kidding.

This is the exact quote. Everyone talks about the Democrats need to moderate on the issues. But what I don't see people talking about is Democrats need to embrace America as a country. Not a piece of advice you want to be hearing from your own guys. Do we like our own country? But the problem is, this is actually a real problem. It's a genuine insight for him to observe this because if you look at the polls, it turns out Democrats don't like America that much anymore. and this is actually a pretty new thing.

This came out in response to what Noah Smith wrote. Charles Lehman of the Manhattan Institute, he highlighted this survey question that Gallup has been doing for decades. For decades, Gallup has asked Americans as one of its regular questions in its surveys, how proud are you to be an American? And so that's just the question, how proud are you to be an American? And it's like extremely proud, very proud, not that proud, not proud at all. And in the early 2000s, there wasn't a big partisan gap on this metric.

In 2001, 90% of Republicans said they were very or extremely proud to be American, and Democrats were 87%. That's statistically basically a tie, and a Republican was in the White House, so Democrats are a bit more down, basically the same level of feeling about America. But it started to drop a lot over the 2000s. By the time Obama got elected, Democrats had dipped down to like 80%. they were mad about the Iraq war, mad about Gitmo, and Republicans were still riding high in the 90s.

But then what's crazy is after Obama gets elected, they don't, you know, we don't swap places. Republicans build this durable advantage you can see there in how proud they are to be an American. Maybe part of that is Michelle Obama openly saying she was only proud to be an American for the first time in her life when her husband got elected. And then Trump gets elected.

You can see on that chart, Trump gets selected and the bottom falls out. By 2020, only 40% of Democrats said they were proud to be American. And when Biden takes the White House back, that's the thing. It doesn't recover. You can see the surge, but it's a surge from 40% to 60%. And then it drops back again. And now we're at the point where it is under 40%, just 36% of Democrats say they are proud to be Americans.

That's barely a third. So this actually matters a lot for the state of American politics. And I think you'd agree, Danny, because for starters, everyone can tell this. It's colored the nature of what the Democratic Party is offering to the American people. And what they have is it's gone from this offer of, here is our plan to make America a better country. And it's become much more, here is our plan to punish America for its many sins. We saw this in 2020. The message was America's systemically racist.

The police are systemically racist. Our cities are these just hives of racism. So it's okay to loot businesses, to burn things down, to rip down our statues, to abolish the founders. And we're still seeing this today, that why did the Biden administration essentially revolve around admitting as many illegal immigrants as possible? Well, it revolved around that because when you are not proud to be American, when you don't like America, you don't like the American people. And by default, you just like anyone who's not American more than Americans. So yes, let's bring in every Haitian. Let's bring in every person from China, every person from the Central African Republic.

Let them all in. Let them immediately go on every welfare program we have. Let them stay here even if they commit crimes because on this fundamental psychological level, they've embraced this attitude that America is illegitimate. That's what's going on with land acknowledgments. It's what's going on with the systemic historic racism attacks you're hearing on, you know, America as a country. And it's what we're seeing now with the, you know, call it the Mamdani message. And we talk about Mamdani a lot, not because, you know, he's going to be president

one day, but because he so perfectly captures this vibe that has spread on, uh, the left. You know, what's the real problem of 9-11? The biggest problem of 9-11 is that it caused Americans, he says, to give me looks to this immigrant, this foreigner who came into the country who followed this, you know, alien way of life. Uh, and so, Another important thing here is Noah's giving this warning, but it's actually, it's, I don't think they're going to be able to put, they're not going to be able to close up Pandora's box.

They can't put the genie back in the bottle on this one. And it's probably the biggest reason we have a strong shot in the Virginia elections that are happening next week, in the New Jersey elections that are happening this week. We're not, you know, we're not blind. We know we're the incumbent party in the White House, and we have a hard time in those midterm elections, and this is a sort of mini midterm.

Virginia especially should be really hard. It's the state that's probably been hit hardest by Doge. It's got, you know, again, the double-incumbency thing going on. And yet, we have a good shot in those races, especially in the AG race, because they're running a guy for a attorney general who says, I believe it's okay to, you know, murder my political opponents. And that is directly connected to that dislike of America, that they don't really view Americans, their fellow Americans, as this legitimate group of people. There's a line I've seen online where it's, you know, when I say I don't like libs or I hate libs, it means I disagree with them, but I would still rescue them from a flood or a

fire. And when they say, you know, kindness is everything, it means they want to kill my entire family. And that's what's going on with that guy in, uh, I'm totally blanking on his name, the AG candidate who shall not be. Jay Jones. Jay Jones. Jay Jones in Virginia. And I just don't think they're going to be able to fix this. Uh, and there's another clip that this made me think of. This is Zoran Mamdani on his transit reform plan. This is why he's saying it's important that we get rid of fares on the New York City buses. Let's play 238. I think it's one of the key reasons why we have to make buses free is because it reduces the assaults on bus drivers. It creates a safer work environment. So read between the lines there. It is important that we not

have fares on the buses because then the violent criminals can just get on the bus for free and assault you, the citizen, who doesn't deserve to be safe on your bus. What matters is protecting the criminal. What matters is protecting the person who is harming society. This is something Charlie talked about all the time on this show, the celebration parallax. It's not happening, and it's also good that it's happening. We're seeing this element where the left is embracing more and more radical and overtly harmful ideologies, and I think the root of it is, look at the polls. They don't actually like America much anymore. President Trump walked into a catch-22 when taking office.

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Now it's your term to help protect yours. We're talking right now about the polls say that the left just doesn't like America a lot. And you were showing me another chart, Danny, that in addition to the partisan gap, there's also a very, and this isn't surprising, a very severe generation gap in how people view America. I'm a millennial. I'm an aged millennial. You are a member of Gen Z. You were on a college campus quite recently. what was your experience seeing this attitude towards America, especially on the left, but even on the right, I'd say. It's very toxic on both sides right now. We'd be tabling and people would try and flip our table.

Have you seen clips like that elsewhere? Just screaming at us, you know, telling us to die and stuff like that. So just very vile stuff. And it increased all four years I was there. I saw more and more and more of it. And especially because this last year I was there was the election year. So it was obviously very, intensified. But yeah, it keeps going more and more. And was it specifically, though, because obviously we've always had political divisions in America. We had political divisions when both sides did genuinely love the country. What's standing out is I do feel there's this attitude on the left that America is a country to be punished now, not a country. I feel like the left, at least used to have a good PR pitch

of this will make everything in America better. Whereas now, you know, Mamdani's platform is we're going to soak white neighborhoods, for example, because that just means bad. White equals bad. And I think to some extent for the left, Native-born American also equals bad. And did you see that on campus? Yeah, very anti-white. I'd heard stories of people in classes having to apologize for being white. Really?

Like that, writing essays completely like, apologize for your white privilege, things like that. I had a friend who wants to be a teacher, and he has. as to all the time in classes right about why it's a problem that he's white and this is who they want. They're teaching this to people who want to be teachers that are going to be teaching our next generation. It's very bad for the country, but I also have to say I'm a little optimistic in that in the long run it is not good for a party to just so visibly despise it. People want to like the country they live in. That is an advantage we have. Ultimately, people want to love their home. And that's a thing that's happening over time. We saw it in this last election.

and Hispanics that Democrats assumed would just always be in their court are actually siding against them because they didn't love the endless flood of legals. They didn't love the idea of blowing up America. So I'm hopeful on that front. And that's why I want to loop in Cliff Maloney here because we'll be talking about the elections in Virginia and New Jersey up ahead. But I just wanted to welcome him in.

I believe he's been listening to what we've been talking about here. And Cliff, do you feel that that's giving us a shot that the left's so visible, their visible distaste for America as a country is giving us an opening to really defend our mandate in these coming races. Yeah, and Blake, listen, I've said this to you before on the show, you know, I've said it plenty of times. I always thought that on November 5th, the day, I should say November 6th of last year, the day after the election, I just assumed the pendulum would have to swing, that the left would realize that this radical woke agenda of siding with illegals over American citizens

of pushing men to be in girls' sports, girls' bathrooms, and girls' spaces, I just assume that they would figure it out and that they would say, look, we've got to find a different path, but somehow the radicals, the activists, the 10% of the radical donors, the 10% of the radical activists, they're driving this party. They have no leader. They have no vision. They offer no solutions and it is it's an opening for republicans because we're at least coming to the table saying listen we care about blue collar americans we care about bringing inflation down we care about peace around the world but most importantly we don't believe in political violence and so is this an opening absolutely and i think you're going to see it you know we'll talk about some of the numbers

here uh in new jersey and pa and virginia but we're seeing it live in the field that people are moving towards the republicans especially independent because of this opening from the radical Democrats doubling down. The B-roll we're showing there is showing people, of course, burning the American flag. And I remember that's one of the last, you know, debates we had on thought crime before we lost Charlie. And it was whether flag burning should be illegal or not. And I believe one of the points I brought up, maybe it was Charlie. One of us, I think it came up, though, that free speech issues aside, the grossness of burning the American flag aside,

it kind of is really useful if your opponents are just able to if they're able to just burn the flag because it's so gross to look at that they do that that when you it's sort of it's allowing your opponent to hurt themselves when you allow them to just go out and just say yeah I hate America I want to burn America symbols I want to burn down America itself rip down its statues destroy the founders and I think it's so funny that this Noah Smith guy has come out and he's like guys can we can we change that? Can we love America now? And it's so, it's such a centrist technocrat thing to believe that you can do that to think, oh, I can just tell everyone we have to love America again and it will

happen. No, you guys broke it. You messed it up. If they go up and say, we love America now, the crowd is going to boo. And that's giving us a lot of hope in these races. We truly are living in a historic time. After 738 days, the 20 living Israeli hostages have been released from captivity. And those who were killed will finally rest in peace near their loved ones. Praise God. In this time of celebration, our good friends at the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews send their deepest gratitude for your prayers and unwavering support. Thanks to you, the fellowship has provided $300 million in emergency aid since October 7th, including millions in direct support for the hostages and their families. Of course, the road ahead is still a long one.

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clear derision for this country that the Democrat Party has is creating political openings for us and we have Cliff Maloney with us here he's in Pennsylvania which is a state that borders New Jersey now New Jersey's been a blue state my entire life

but it was surprisingly close this last election it has a lot of sort of MAGA inclined people and you know it's elected Republican governors before and we're hoping it's going to elect one again just to give you the latest rundown in the polls We have Mickey Cheryl is the Democrat in the latest poll,

and she was pulling up 49% to 46% for the Republican Jack Chittarelli. Now, that's a deficit, but it's closed up a lot in the last few weeks. We also have a very interesting poll that we've seen. Let's put up 225 there, where when they ask people, who do you think most of your neighbors or friends are voting for, then Chittarelli got ahead 53% to 47. percent. So there may be some silent demographic going on here. And I think the momentum has generally been on his side. But we want to go over to you, Cliff. You're actually on the ground there

whipping votes. What does the evidence say? And also what does the evidence you've seen with your own eyes say? Yeah, well, a couple points I want to make. Number one, you said it earlier. You know, this is coming off an election where a Republican is in the White House. Republicans have control of Congress, both the House and the Senate. And so we're not supposed to win this, right? I'm not trying to lower expectations. This is a competitive race in a state that is not supposed to be competitive for Republicans. It's just not supposed to be. The other thing I want to point out is four years ago, when Jack was on the ballot against Murphy, he was down 10 points in the polls at a minimum. I mean, some of these had him down 15 points going into election day. He only lost

by three. So let's think about the numbers and how this is trending. Registration is looking much better in terms of it's still dominated by Democrats, but their margin is getting smaller and smaller every single month. Trump lost in 2020 by double digits. Jack loses by three in 2021 with the pushback against a Democrat White House. And then Trump takes his double digit loss and gets it down to 5.9 in the same state just four years later. So to me, you know, what we're seeing on the ground is there's energy for Jack. And, you know, Mikey Cheryl is just the type of candidate that she's the Kamala Harris of New Jersey. The more time people spend with her, the more time people hear her or understand what ideas she's promoting, the fewer votes she's going to get. So I think

we're in a great spot. I think the polling shows that. Blake, if you're all right with it, I'd love to kind of go through some of the data on the requests. No, 100%. Give that to us, for sure. Yeah. So I've got it up here. Let me give you the rub. I just tweeted this out. And I do think that this is the entire election. 180,000 Republican voters, registered Republican voters, have requested a mail-in ballot in New Jersey. And out of them, only 104 have returned them. That means, and this is for the whole RAB and the whole Charlie Kirk show audience, there are 80,000 Republicans right now in the state of New Jersey that have a ballot sitting on their dining room table.

We've got to get every single one of them back. That's what we're doing at the New Jersey Chase with our program, NJChase.com. If folks want to come knock doors with us or sponsor a ballot chaser, $175 a day, this is the election. Yes, we've got to early vote. Yes, we've got to have people turn out. But if you look at that tweet on the screen, that is everything.

Once again, the numbers, $184,000 requested them. 104 have come back. That's roughly 80,000 Republicans with a ballot, sitting on their dining room table in New Jersey. That is the election. We've got to close that gap. Anyone you know in New Jersey, make sure if they have a ballot,

they send it back, make a plan to early vote, and if not, make sure they show up on election day. Absolutely. I'm going to try to do my best Charlie impression here. Charlie believed in voting early, as he said all the time,

an election is not won by rallies, it is not one by polls, it is not one by vibes, it is not one by memes, it is not one by tweets. it is won by whoever has the most pieces of paper with the candidate they support in the ballot box and on the date of the election, or who knows how many days it takes New Jersey to count them, when it is all counted up, we need Chidorelli to have more pieces of paper in the box than Ms. Cheryl.

That is the only thing that will win. 80,000 outstanding ballots. Can you repeat that website if people want to go there to get more information? Sure, NJ.Chase. That's NJChace.com. Two options if you want to get involved. One, come to New Jersey. Help us talk to these 80,000 Republicans that have a ballot.

If you can't do that, $175 sponsors an entire day. We've only got six days left. We're sponsored an entire day for one ballot chaser in New Jersey to go door to door, NJChase.com. All right. I'm doing the numbers in my head. 80,000 ballots. There are people listening to this show right now. I don't know your names, but I know you're out there.

you have this ballot on on your kitchen table on your desk somewhere you have it there and you've been procrastinating you're thinking i'm going to do it tomorrow i'm going to do it after dinner no do it now turn off this show and go do it now we won't begrudge it to you you can come back after you're done but get that filled out get it in and also be sure you're asking your friends about this i think if you know your friends are politically aligned with you don't just talk about the race talk about have you voted have you gotten your ballot in you'd be amazed the number of people who forget these sorts of things we've learned that over and over again and you know the best time to vote is right now because sometimes people do wait till the last minute and then it doesn't

happen we've learned that over and over as well and so cliff i wanted to throw it a 234 if we could go over this real quick it's basically the dem firewall right now in new jersey and it's showing that In 2025, they're running about 30,000 ahead of where they were in 2021. Is that just because of higher turnout across the board? Should we be expecting Republicans to be about 30,000 ahead of where they were in 2021 as well? Can you explain that to us? Yeah, I think there's two numbers I really care about. The first is that we lost mail-in votes.

If you look at 2021, we lost mail-in votes by roughly, let's just say, 300,000 votes. Okay, Chitterelli did. if you look at early vote we only lost by about 10,000 or excuse me 20,000 okay this I'm talking raw votes not percentages right now everybody wants to look at percentages and sometimes that makes sense for me when I'm chasing ballots or when I'm talking about those 80,000 Republicans with a ballot to me it's the raw numbers on election day chitterrelli won by over 200,000 so that's what I'm looking at is how do we get that number to where we're below 200,000 or even below 250,000 in terms of the deficit between

between early voting and mail-in ballots combined going into election day. So I'm going to say this, and I might sound pessimistic, and look, I'm a big believer in Jack. This is going to be a very tough race to win, okay? For those out there that get excited when you have groups like early vote action, groups like Citizens Alliance, Turning Point Action, America First Works, Heritage, all these groups that are coming into the state, which is great, you cannot think that just because we're targeting it it's a guaranteed win. We're not supposed to win this race.

So I think two things have to happen moving forward. We've got to get the numbers together on everyone early voting and anybody with the ballot coming back in. And then Jack's going to have to overperform his Election Day success compared to four years ago. I think he's going to have to win Election Day by 250 to 300,000 votes rather than only winning by 200,000. I hope I'm wrong. I hope we have a surge in early voting over the next couple of days and we've got more of a window. but if she is up by more than 300,000 going into election day, I don't see the math for how you're going to get there. I think Jack's got to overperform and we got to be competitive over

the next couple days here leading into election day. Exactly, Cliff. And Charlie was always a big believer in two things. He wanted to be realistic. He didn't want hopium. He didn't want to just say, oh, it's all great. And then people feel lied to if it doesn't work out. I like that you're being honest. This is a tough race. This is a challenging race. If you look at the betting markets, the Democrats are favored to win this race. But it's also not 99.9%. It's, you know, if we have a one in five shot, that's, okay, one in five. That's better than the odds of rolling a six if you roll a die.

And that's, that is a winnable race. It is a race that we can move more in our favor if we are all committed, if we are emphatic. And more to the point, even if we're not going to win, it is our obligation to try. It is our moral obligation as Americans who care about this country. who like this country, as we were discussing at the start, to make our best shot on this one. We also want to look, do we have any numbers from the Virginia race? I want to shout out the Virginia race as well, because that's unfolding right now. That is also going to be a challenging one, but I think the polls show us up in that AG race.

And state AGs are more important than ever. We've seen that with Letitia James in New York. We're seeing this with Ken Paxton in Texas. A powerful AG can make a big difference. So that whole rant I did for all of the New Jersey people who have your early ballots, that is also going out to all of you in Virginia. Virginia has early voting right now. I know.

I used to live in Virginia. You can go to a building near you, probably the county building somewhere like that. You can go and cast your ballot right now. Vote early. I should have worn a vote early shirt today. You can go in and do it. You can do it right now. You can do it all the rest of this week.

I think they cut it off on Saturday, maybe Sunday. but you don't have to worry when they cut it off because if you live in Virginia, you're going to go and you're going to vote right now. Again, turn off this show and go vote right now. Please. Please. We want to win that AG race and we want to win. We want to win some Sears to win in the governor's race as well. That is another one where we have seen momentum on our side. That doesn't mean we will win, but it means the race is winnable and we have an obligation to try as best we can. Yeah, I'll comment just real quick. So we're in a couple of races. is there. We're not doing anything statewide. I don't get any credit. You know, obviously the districts that we're in, it will help up ballot. But we're trying to flip the state house back. So Republicans have a one-seat deficit, if I'm not mistaken, in the House of Delegates. And so what we're doing is targeting a handful of the races where we think we can flip seats. But the momentum, you know, the energy's there. I think people look at Jersey as a, you know, more of a likely win or however they're analyzing it. But I think both of them, there is a shot here, right? It's going to take a lot of the right things happening, a lot of the same variables. But there is a real chance, if Republicans show up, that we can win both Jersey and Virginia. You know, there's a pick they just sent me here in the chat, 248, that there people are putting up stickers that say, I voted to honor Charlie Kirk. And I think a lot of people are doing that right now. God bless them.

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We covered New Jersey. We covered Virginia. But, Danny, you say we have an email that's about the other election that's on Tuesday. Yeah, we have an email from Zane. Do you think Sliwa would win the race if Cuomo dropped out? Is Slewa just a comedian candidate or actually someone who could improve the city? That's a... I don't want to attack the Republican in any way.

I would feel like it's tough for us to win that race. Let's be frank. It's very tough right now. I think the field needed to consolidate earlier to show a unified opposition to Mamdani. And instead, it took a long time for that to happen. People are angry one way or another. We get a lot of emails about this. People are, they don't want to vote for Cuomo.

Understandably, he killed a ton of people in New York. He's a Democrat. He's a thug. And they're saying, why should the Republican have to drop out to enable Cuomo? But also, I do think it's true that Sliwa has not shown a lot of polling strength. it's going to be very tough to win that race you should all vote in it anyway because we do not abandon races

we do not give up on our fellow Americans or our cities but that is going to be a very tough one no matter what happens I would say I have a quick question I want to share with Cliff Diane sent us a Diane I guess it's probably Diane sent us a email that just says is there a New Jersey phone bank

people can go to where they can dial from anywhere I think that's probably similar to the turning point action app that we've had in some states do you have the best advice for people who want to get involved i i guess probably from out of state cliff yes uh download the early vote action app so scott preser's crew has plenty of things that folks can do uh this is not me saying that you know i don't want people to knock doors but yeah if you're not able to knock doors with n j chase i would download the early vote action app where you can make calls you know send postcards uh and do some things here in the final six

day so great email love when people uh you know give an alternative everybody's got to take action right this too important of a race to sit on the sidelines. So NJChase.com for folks that can knock or they can sponsor a knocker. But if you can't, plenty of different organizations you can partner with from afar to get some real work done. Great question.

Yeah, man. We've got one. Andrew has sent us one and he sent us in white colored text so I have to highlight it so that I can read it. It's not the sharp as well. So use black text people. But in this upcoming election, what strategy will be used to engage young voters

who feel disconnected from both parties and believe the system isn't working for them. And I do think, I don't have an easy answer to that because it does stand out to me. We've talked about the shutdown a lot these past few days, and I had this thought. We were saying on the show, Democrats have touted one of the biggest victims

in the shutdown allegedly is that early retirees are paying more for, I think, their health insurance premiums under Obamacare. And it just filled me with dread that that is apparently a politically powerful argument because I don't I don't want to say anything you know to those who are out there who support us who are early retirees who were who were financially successful enough to do that good for you but I'm just going to say it it is not early retirees in America that our priority should be on our priority needs above all to be on young people who will have the next generation who need to perpetuate American prosperity American success American vitality and I do think as Republicans we've got to to be really zeroed in on that message, that we are the people who care about your future. We are the ones who will do things to enable you to own a home, to have a family, to live in a country that doesn't feel like it hates you all of the time. And we've gone to this again

and again. The fact that Democrats so visibly want you to live in filth and in crime and surrounded by foreigners who don't speak like you, who don't like you, who view you as a giant pile of money to get, they're creating a lot of opportunities for us. And We've at times been imperfect in capitalizing on that. And, you know, that's why, you know, Zeron Mamdani has had the success he's had. How do you feel about that, Danny? Yeah, and I think what strategies could we use to engage the vote or engage young voters is Turning Point USA. I think more people can just get involved with Turning Point.

Possibly go to our event tonight. Yeah, if you're in Ole Miss, online. Watch online. Have your kids watch. Yeah, I feel like this is turning points needed now more than ever. So I feel like everybody can get involved. and that is a way that young voters can stay engaged and that is what Charlie's main mission was all about.

How about you, Cliff? You're always doing the get-out-the-vote. You're probably speaking to a lot of youngish people. What have you been seen? Yeah, well, I'll echo Danny here. I mean, first and foremost, get involved with Turning Point. If there's a local chapter, join it, if there's not start it. And listen, Turning Point is not just for students, right?

I always have to explain to people. There's local chapters. There's faith chapters. You guys have chapters for pretty much any type of individual that's looking to get involved. So I just would really encourage you. You might be sitting there thinking, well, you know, I like watching the show and I like the ideas. Get involved, right?

The country needs you to step up and get involved with turning point and to take real action. Look, how do I think we reach young people? I think this election in 2024 really proved one thing. And that is that authenticity is what matters. And I think as Republicans, I'm going to be brutally honest. The rhinos, the establishment. some of these people that have been in this game for way too long, they're losing young people and all voters

because people can sense they're not authentic. Donald Trump and J.D. Vance, when you compared that to Kamala Harris and Tim Walls, it was the greatest difference in authenticity. You might not like Trump. You might not like J.D., but when they're talking, you know they're saying what they believe. And when you compare that to the Democrat leaders, they're just not authentic. Now, my warning is Mom Donnie. Because he is the one guy right now, that when he talks, he sounds authentic.

I don't know how much he believes what he's saying, but I think authenticity needs to be what we focus on. I'm going to continue to chase ballots and use whatever tactics at the door we need to to win. But one, get involved at Turning Point if you want to make a difference. And two, the Republicans have a mandate to be the most authentic party and really to deliver for the American people. They do that. They're going to have great success. That's right. That's right. Thank you, Cliff, so much for coming on.

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