The Charlie Kirk Show - Will Minnesota’s Turning Point Ever Come?

Episode Date: December 30, 2025

Rampant daycare fraud by Minnesota’s Somali immigrant community has become one of the biggest stories in America. But with one scandal after another, why does Minnesota keep voting blue in one election after another? Scott Johnson of Minnesota’s Power Line Blog discusses the potential of unseating Tim Walz in next fall’s election. Harmeet Dhillon explains what the federal government is doing to pursue accountability for immigrant fraudsters, J6 gangsters, and illegal voters around the country. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We are actually going to be joined now by Scott Johnson from the Powerline blog, one of the groups that has been investigating the Minnesota fraud within the Somali community, specifically for a lot longer than the public is now aware of, at least the vast majority of them, so Scott welcome to the Charlie Kirk show thanks for making the time Blake Blake is the one who turned me on to your reporting and your investigative work so I'm going to let him take the lead here because what you've been doing needs to more people need to know about it Scott

hey Scott yeah welcome to the show I'm a big fan of Powerline you guys are I think you guys have literally been blogging before they actually came up with the word blog which is quite I think you were like the original time magazine article about it and all that big fan of you guys uh and i what i like about what you guys have really pointed out you've had a lot of posts on this explosion of interest in the somali story and what you've pointed out is this is not it's not truly a new story even nick shirley he's not he's not even the first person to go around knocking on the doors of daycares and so i thought we could set this up by you could just explain a little bit about

what you know as a conservative on the ground in Minnesota, what the real state of affairs is, and what is the best thing that could happen if we want to see accountability for this? And I guess, let's be obvious, like, useful policy developments at the national level as a result of this scandal. Well, that's a big question. The last time you had me on, Blake, it was to talk in the aftermath of the controversy that, Chris Rufo had raised with a city journal column this past November, and it created a huge impact all around the country because President Trump attended to that matter. And all of a sudden, there were calls for investigation coming from all over the country, directed at the United States

Attorney for Minnesota and the local FBI office here. But in fact, the case that Rufo wrote about, the fraud cases that have been drawn to his attention are four years old. They're going to be, let's see, since 2021, they've been under investigation by the FBI. There have been at least 50 convictions in those cases. There are about 28 more maybe to go. And this round of controversy is created by this incredible video that Nick Shirley, created knocking on doors around the Twin Cities to demonstrate the level of fraud in one aspect of these cases that is also under investigation and also being charged. And that's the thing

I would like your audience to know more than anything else is that these matters are under investigation by the FBI and they are being prosecuted by the United States Attorney for the District of Minnesota and whatever credit you give to me for covering these cases comes from the fact that I have followed I've attended the press conferences called by the U.S. attorney here and I've attended the trials held in these cases here and this is all from my perspective old news now what's the name of the gentleman you were going to have on this afternoon Nick Shirley Nick Shirley you know I'm just inundated with questions about this, but Shirley's video focuses on one aspect of the frauds that are being investigated here,

the daycare frauds. And he highlights in the video an office in the city of St. Paul called the Briggs Midway Building that had 22 offices that were devoted to some aspect of these frauds. And the funny thing is, that office building was raided in July. And at the time, I posted one of the search warrants that was executed in July on Powerline. And then in September, several of those cases out of the Griggs Midway Building were charged. Now, the first charge cases involved another Medicaid fraud. that Minnesota Medicaid has 14 waiver programs. And daycare has been a longstanding problem.

But the first charge cases that have come out of the Griggs Midway Building and St. Paul are in housing stabilization services, which seems to be a fraud of the kind that Nick Shirley is exposing in this video that has gone viral. So the one thing I would like your audience to know is that this matter,

to use President Trump's term is being attended to. The FBI is investigating it, and the cases are being charged. There are more that will be charged this week. If there's a problem, it's that the United States Attorney's Office for Minnesota is not huge. There might be five or six prosecutors working on these cases and a team of FBI agents. If anything, it's time to send in reinforcements. But the matter, this is not news. It does not need to be investigated in the sense that a case needs to be open.

It is under investigation and the cases are being charged. Yeah, it's interesting. I want to read a line from your post this morning. It says before Nick Shirley and after. And you say, Joe Thompson, the U.S. attorney for Minnesota, has all but shouted the point from the rooftop. Minnesota is drowning in fraud. To put it another way, Thompson was shouting, wake up. The volume of fraud is beyond the capacity.

of his office to remedy by prosecution alone. And you asked him, okay, are there more people you could charge and do they match basically the appearance of the cases we've seen so far? In other words, are there more Somali fraud cases that he's just been unable to get to? And he told you yes. So we have the evidence. We have the cases. It seems that we literally just have a case where we need more prosecutors and more manpower to bring the paperwork charges. Is that the situation as I, do I understand it correctly? You know, to go back to the beginning, which is the searches and indictments that were handed up in the year 2022 out of the investigation that began in 2021, we're in this

feeding our future fraud that involved $300 million. The original indictments, there was a set of 47 indictments that were handed up by the grand jury in September 2022. And those cases have multiplied. They're up to 70 some now. And that's how these subsequent frauds were discovered is that Joe Thompson and the FBI, as they followed the money coming out of Medicaid to and this feeding our future. As they followed the money, they found some of the same cast of characters. The defendants in the Feeding Our Future case are basically a white woman who set up this feeding our future nonprofit and recruited Somali, a Somali cast of characters to run these fraudulent programs around the state. So that's how it happened is that this thing has been under investigation for four years.

I wanted you, you've watched Minnesota politics for a long time, and it's always struck me as a state. It seems like it should be a purple or red state by now. like it should follow the arc of Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, move a bit to the right. Yet it's always been this white whale. It never seems to happen, even when it seems like a scandal like this should be a huge feeding frenzy for a state Republican. And you guys have good local conservative-leaning investigators, Alpha News. You guys, what's going on? Why does Minnesota never seem to reach that turning point that it seems like it should? Well, I hate to point the finger at the Somali community again, but, You know, the problem is Kenneppen County, which is the county in which Minneapolis sits,

and the Democratic majority there is so huge, including a large component of Somali voters, that it makes up for the Democrats' weakness in rural Minnesota, and they do lose outstate. Minnesota has shifted, it is a purple state in the sense that rural counties are basically Republican, and St. Paul and Minneapolis are a Democrat. So we need to do a little bit better in the cities. It's been a long time since a Republican won a statewide election here. If it doesn't happen in 2026, we've really got a problem. This is Lane Schoenberger, Chief Investment Officer and founding partner of Y Reefi.

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penalty. It may not be available in all 50 states. Go to why refi.com. That is why refi-refi.com. That is If y-R-E-F-Y dot com, let's face it, if you have distress or default to student loans, it can be overwhelming because of privacy of loan debt, so many people feel stuck. Go to y-refi.com. That is y-R-E-F-Y-F-Y dot com. Private student loan debt relief, Y-Refi-Refi.com. You know, it's interesting. I'm not exactly sure what the precise number of Somali voters are now in Hennepin County, but it's massive. We're talking at least over 100,000. Some have said 200,000. thousand so that's a huge voting block i don't know what the margin of defeat for trump was in minnesota blake if you've got that handy but it's i i'd be surprised if it was much higher than two hundred thousand but we'll check the uh you know you mentioned this voting block and nick shirley who we've been talking about who's actually he's had to reschedule with us he'll be on

tomorrow uh mentions this exact thing one 18 governor tim walls is saying that you and others that are out there trying to expose this. You know, you're doing it because you're white supremacist. What is your response to him? Yeah, Tim wants votes. There are entire apartment complex where white people have been pushed out of these apartment complexes because Somalians have taken over in their inside of these towns like Minneapolis where they can go and go get votes from these people. And if you have 100,000 people that will vote for you because you're going to enable and let this stuff happen and because you're going to call white person racist for calling out facts, this is what's going to happen to a state like Minnesota.

Minnesotans, they say Minnesota nice, but they are very upset, and I totally understand why they're upset, because they don't have a governor who's actually working for them, that he's actually working against them. I guess what I'm wondering is, I just checked, and Trump lost, President Trump lost Minnesota by about one and a half points in 2016. He lost by more in 2020, and in 2024, he lost by four points. So it actually has shifted a little bit bluer over the past eight years, is that. just a demographic effect, or do you think, is there something, is there something to you that you'll always hear from outside Minnesota, people will say it's that Scandinavian psychology. So I guess I'd ask what you think of that. And also, just in general, I know you say it's, it's not a new story there, but it is getting a lot of attention. Is this the sort of thing

people are talking about all the time there? Is it taking over discourse in the state in a way it didn't before? I think the point that Nick Shirley made in the video that you played is absolutely right. It's hard to convey the level of interest on the one hand and anger on the other that the story generates. You know, people feel like they're being treated as chumps and they're really mad about it. And I can't think of a comparable, you know, issue of public affairs in the past 10 years in Minnesota that has generated this level of interest. It's had a huge impact. President Trump had an impact when in 2016, I think one effect he had was turning suburbs around in Hennepah County around the Twin Cities' bluer, you know, because the suburban

voters don't like his style or whatever. I really haven't thought about the question that you're raising right now and hesitate to say more about the political impact and so on. But I do think that we need a serious Republican candidate at the top of the ticket in 2026. We had a weak Republican gubernatorial candidate in 2022. It brought down competitive candidates under him. If we have several good candidates running for the Republican gubernatorial nomination in 2026, and if one of them gets the nomination and is endorsed, I think will win. we can hope man we can hope just just so we're just just so we're clear the raw vote the raw vote

difference in 2024 in minnesota was 138,100 votes so Donald Trump received 1.5 essentially Harris received 1.65 so it was a 138,000 raw votes that Minnesota was won by and if you think the Somali community which has been largely imported since the late 90s I mean, I mean, let's say it's over 200,000. I mean, there's your... It's about 80,000, so it's not quite the difference. I've heard larger numbers. Do we know the actual numbers here?

How many Somalis are in Minnesota? I would say no. You can get official numbers would be something like the 80,000 that you're using, but I think it's well over 100,000. It is a fair number. And they're not entirely in Minneapolis, but they're concentrated in... It used to be called Little Mogadishu.

That's the 5th District, Hennepin County, and Minneapolis, an inter-ranged suburb. It's Ilhan Omar's district. Yeah. It's not so little anymore. When the Mogadishu has gotten bigger. Well, it's not just, but it's not just, it's not just Minnesota, by the way. This is in Ohio. There's now reports of over 500 child care facilities in the state of Washington run by

Somalis. So we'll see how far the rabbit hole goes down. This is a very interesting conversation. Scott Johnson has been with Powerline blog, has been investigating the, I guess, fraud situation, different aspects of it in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Scott, does this go back 20 years, 25 years for you? How long have you been doing your research and investigation? Well, we started power line in uh over a memorial day weekend uh 2002 um i'm trying to think the first i really got seriously interested in in the subject i covered that minnesota was a uh found of folks supporting al shabab and and in 2016 uh there was a terrorism trial here there were nine charged Somali Minnesotans who were seeking to join ISIS, six of them pleaded guilty, three of them

went to trial in 2016. I covered that trial. And these were young charismatic men who on the surface were apparently assimilated. They were well spoken. They were taking advantage of opportunities. They were educated. They were taking advantage of every employment and educational opportunity I could think of. So, you know, I was exposed to some of them as they came through the courtroom, but the three defendants I saw, one of them testified, and one of the nine turned in former and were aware. So you got to hear what these guys really thought of us. And it was really, it was shocking how much hatred they had for the United States. Wow. And in the course of that trial, I saw, you know, one of the programs they were taking advantage of was student loans.

And one of the defendants pulled out $500 on a debit card from his student loan to finance his trip to Turkey to try to get to ISIS. And these folks were apprehended before they left the United States. But it was shocking to me how cognizant they were of the seams and the system that they could take advantage of and so on. Yeah, it's really revealing one of the places they investigated, the way it has. had all three, it was like it had a transportation company and it had a home, a Medicaid company and a daycare. They're aware of where you can go to get the money. And as you said, it's nice that you brought up the terrorism nexus of this. In 2019, I've got it right in front of me, Fox 9 out of Minneapolis, St. Paul. They investigated this story. And there was literally

reports this was noted that millions of dollars was being flown out of the Minneapolis airport in suitcases in cash they just had cash stuff in suitcases and they're flying it to Somalia it's beyond a doubt a lot of that probably ended up with extremists al-Shabaab terrorists and it says in that article that it's well known that starting a daycare is a way to print money in this community 2019 it's just well And then feeding frenzy. I think the cash being flown out has never been substantiated. But that's where we came in was with daycare fraud.

I wrote a column for City Journal called what would issue of Minnesota, I think, in 2018, that referred to the issue of daycare fraud and the story about cash being flown to Somalia. I'm not so sure that that part of it is true, but it certainly has been a concern for a substantial period of time. Well, so my question then, Scott, goes to. the politicians that have been complicit in this, right? In 2023, Governor Walt said that, you know, child care providers need a raise, which basically, you know, was, you know, a tip of the cap to his constituents in the Somali community, I got to believe. What, what are we looking at complicity within the elected class in

Minnesota? Can we, are you going to be pursuing that investigation? What can we expect in terms of Tim Walts and other officials? in the state. I don't think Tim Walls and I don't think Attorney General Keith Ellison, I don't think either one of them has either sat for an interview regarding what they knew and win on this massive public programs fraud. And it would be nice if, you know, the big media outlets here like the Minneapolis Star Tribune now known as the Minnesota Star Tribune would ask for interviews and tell us what the response is that they get. Will either of these guys sit for an interview During the second of these Feeding Our Future trials earlier this year, I sent sets of questions.

I asked for interviews of both Walls and Ellison to ask those questions, and I sent them written questions on the subject of what they do and with. Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of the State, is a guy who brags about how he can spot a fraud when he's talking about President Trump. So I was curious about when he spotted the fraud that took place under his auspices here over the last six years. It's unbelievable. You know, these guys have specialized in either looking the other way or facilitating what we've seen over the past several cases. We're out of time here, Scott. But thank you so much. Thank you so much for your work.

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Very excited about our next guest. That is Harmeet Dillon, the great Harmeet Dillon, who is the Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division at the Department of Justice. Harmeet, welcome back to the show. I am very excited to speak with you. You had a very lively weekend, a holiday break, and you're trying to explain things I found I was very sympathetic to where you're at because I have in the last couple of months received my own fair amount of attention from conservative influencers that don't seem to understand that we have a legal system that has rules it has timelines and you are being or perhaps you just observed some of the questions that were circulating about this post-January 6th. prosecution. People want accountability for some of the stuff that happened. Obviously, we share those desires. And you just basically said, am I going to have to put down my knitting and explain the statute of limitations to you, people? So the floor is yours. What sparked this and what do you want the country, the conservative movement to know? Well, thank you for having me and

thank you for asking. It is certainly very frustrating to those about the Department of Justice where we are doing so much, we are winning so many cases at the Supreme Court, they're putting wins on the board, and Attorney General Pam Bondi and the rest of us keep getting criticized for not having arrests, like arrests are entertainment or breading circuses. And in fact, there are arrests, and there is a very lively activity from a very committed, and I think the most conservative department exhaustness that we've ever had. And I don't think it's just people asking question. What I was responding to was what looked to me like in organized candidates,

campaign of a stupid commentary that falsely claim that because January 6 is coming up, there's a five-year statute of limitations that expires on January 6, 2025. And if the Attorney General and the DOJ hasn't indicted people by that time, then that statute of limitations has run. And I think it is paid. I think I see certainly those types of influencers on X who are monetized, repeating this propaganda almost word for word. And I was frustrated by it. I saw some pushback. It wasn't enough pushback. And so I decided to get out there and, you know, spew some facts. Namely, there is no

statute of limitations that runs on that day. There are various statutes that are run on a rolling basis and some haven't even expired because there's a continuing conspiracy, which I think you could make the case for in some circumstances. The statute of limitations doesn't begin to run, i.e. start until that conspiracy and those overreacted in furtherance of the conspiracy end. And so I put some facts out there. And I also expressed my frustration that so-called conservative influencers are clearly getting paid to spread clickbait disinformation. And it's really annoying to me. And I would get a life where it needs to inform themselves to try to be honest instead of just trying to make money off of the desperation of a less informed populace.

Well, and I think that's really important. And we have your tweet here. You said stuff happens January 6th. That date is irrelevant. January 6th committee and Congress forms in the summer. This is a relevant date. So statute of limitations mid-2020s potentially. Jack Smith appointed over a year later. So there's another date. Democrats in Congress and those in the states colluding with Biden White House hide their behavior, some of which still hasn't come to light. Statute runs on this five years after their concealed behavior is known to the government. This means means. means the statute could run in the next administration. And then you have a note of encouragement to stop posting clickbait. I think that's all fair. I actually was not booking you on this topic, Harmeet. We wanted to have you on because the Minnesota topic, and we've been covering that throughout the show today. I mean, it was the number one topic. Elon's posting about it. So I appreciate the statute of limitations. I think you're getting to a point that the base wants accountability. They want results. And it's not just about the DOJ. It's not just about Pam Bondi. You guys are doing great work at the Department of Justice in a lot of different ways.

And I know, because I've spoken with people, there's a lot coming down the pike. So we can put a pin in that if you'd like, but there's a lot coming down the pike. Could you at least assure our audience that you guys are working on stuff that they're going to like? Absolutely. But let me continue the theme here of a false narrative, which is that no one's going to go to jail, we aren't doing anything, we haven't done anything where do you're up? This is nonsense because the Attorney General and under the DOJ, we have actually indicted 99 people so far. We're just getting started to be Minnesota Somali fraud ring. So far, there are over 60 convictions and leaves hundreds of millions of dollars in gold and restitution. And, um,

you know, additional collateral crimes, including attempted bribery by one of these fraudsters, trying to deliver $120,000 tax for a year's home and things like that. And so, you know, we're also uncovering there was news of similar types of fraud happening in Ohio and other places where the Somali community is because apparently this is a type of fraud that they're talking amongst themselves. And it isn't just Somali fraud. There's other fraud. I probably believe that there's state organized fraud, frankly, in a way in California where Victor Davis-Hanson talked about this recently on his podcast where he's talking about, you know, sort of inflated reimbursement requests for ambulances from the state and then the states pocket the difference

and, you know, all kinds of crazy stuff like this Medicaid fraud. There's autism fraud and on and on. And so we are so dedicated to this. There are career prosecutors. There's a lot of political thing. This is the type of thing that they do day in and day out. And the attorney general is so dedicated to it. I spoke to her about it yesterday, she's not getting enough credit and it's not reasonable. And so I just want people to understand that when they say,

where are the arrests, there's no arrests? You're just sounding dumb because if you cracked open a browser and did a little bit of research, you are fine that there have been many arrests, many convictions, many indictments, and ongoing investigations here. And so I'm proud of the COJ and the work that we're doing. And it would really make it easier for us to do our job

when we didn't have to spend time combating this information from the public online, which is probably malicious and soft serving. Yeah, and I want to take a minute, just a moment here to pause. You mentioned Victor Davis Hansen. He announced on his show, so we just want everybody to pray for VDH, great American, been on this show many times. He says, I'm having a major operation. and I've been presented with a serious problem,

but I'm going to do all I can to solve it, and that's all I can do, and trust in the power of prayer and faith, and in a wonderful surgeon. So it sounds like he's going into surgery with a serious issue. I saw you tweeting about that and retweeting, so I wanted to pause right there. We love VDH.

He's a good American, great American, and so we wish him all the best. Please do pray for him. We need guys like VDH out there, a voice of stability and just wisdom, history, his context for just about every problem we face is incredible. So just wanted to pause and say that. So one of the issues that you see if you go online, and again, this is sort of the theme of our conversation here, Harmi, is people want to see Tim Walts, Keith Ellison. They want to see these guys indicted, arrested for their

complicity or look turning the other way when they knew the fraudulent. was happening. In the previous segment, Blake mentioned a Fox 9 article from 2019 where this sort of daycare fraud was publicized first, and they were even alleging that some of the money was getting back to al-Shabaab even in 2019. Then we had the City Journal reporting from Christopher Rufo that basically alleged the same. What would it take to indict a sitting governor? I mean, I know that you have an official role, and there's only so much you can say. So please, by all means, be careful. But just legally speaking, I mean, we haven't really seen anything like that, at least in living memory.

Well, well, we have. I mean, Rod Blagojevic is, of course, indicted. You're now correct. Many Illinois governors have been indicted and convicted of crimes and, you know, senators have as well. Sitting? It does happen. Yeah. I mean, I mean, you know, I don't know if he was sitting at the time, but he was convicted for behavior that he, then he had a little.

allegedly engaged in while he was a sitting governor. And so, you know, it does take time to put convictions together. So let me tell you how, and again, this is not my area of expertise. I'm civil rights chief. I do have some criminal, some jurisdiction involving acrines and stuff. But there's a concept in the DOJ and also in state prosecutions is called public correction. And the prosecutors and special audit in public correction cases. And they're difficult cases to bring.

and they typically involve informant or somebody who has been engaged in criminal behavior themselves like he bribes to a sitting official and then perhaps agree to wear a wire or, you know, otherwise there's sufficient evidence because they plead guilty and there's graduate and then there's, you know, enough evidence to go in and get a wiretap and or financial records and then go trace the money

and build an ironclad case. And I think that while I know there's a thirst, kind of a revenge you like thirst, for convictions and prosecutions. What we don't want, it's to have a situation like where what happened to President Trump, you know, trumped up cases, concocted cases. So you have to actually do the whole work, put that ironclad cake together, because you know what the other side is going to say.

They're going to say that it's politicized, that's setting 100% of cases involving public figures. This is political. This is not a real case. When we're seeing that right now, that kind of commentary of politicians, Jennings and some others that are in the crosshairs of prosecution. And so I think that's what is happening here. And so it isn't enough that a public figure saw a news story five years ago that says that there's fraud in their state.

That's not a crime. But tying them to it, tying them to either a financial motivation or a campaign finance motivation where they looked the other way or they accepted a gratuity. or some benefit or an ongoing benefit including to their family or so forth that they arrange. You're putting these cases together as important and I can guarantee that every single person working

and getting yourself a business in the other jail with like nothing more than to bring righteous cases against corrupt public officials. But let me tell you a little kind of complex complication here. You know the whole problem with the blue slit process that has been talked about? I'm sure you talked about it on your show. Well, it's kind of weird.

when you're in a blue state like Illinois or, you know, Minnesota or California and the Democrat senators get a veto over who the prosecutor can be who might investigate them. That's even here a conflict of interest. And then I can tell you, I can tell you actual, sort of complex needs of fraud that I believe have been committed by Democrat public figures in California. and the blue slip process makes it such that nobody ever gets approved by those Democrat senators who isn't someone who they think is politically savvy enough to look the other way and not from after that. So that's why you see less of this.

That's why sometimes these prosecutions have to occur from a different district or, you know, out of Maine justice. And a lot of this stuff never comes to light because of that. So we do rely on public figures coming forward and trying to help us with this year. this is lane schoenberger chief investment officer and founding partner of y refi it has been an honor and a privilege to partner with turning point and for charlie to endorse us his endorsement means the world to us and we look forward to continuing our partnership with turning point for years to come now hear charlie in his own words tell you about y refi i'm going to tell you guys about yrefi That is Y-R-E-F-Y-Y-F-Y dot com.

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on that. That's a little bit of breaking news. So Harmeet, in the midst of this, Venezuelan news and the BV Netanyahu news, you have news on voting integrity, voter integrity, as well as some gun cases that you're working. Please tell us about them. Well, sure. Let's talk about the voting cases first. So a few months ago, I started this process of requesting the voter rolls from all the states and care it for the United States and asking them to share them with us so that we could help these states compare their voter rolls against our government data and clean their voter rolls because of the requirement of states under federal law, the Health America Vote Act amongst others. And so there's a lot of having an eye, including for red states, a lot of back

and forth, and then some outright results to cooperate from many states. And so I am proud to report that today I'm in litigation with 22 states, the United States, and that's actually 23 lawsuits, because California two lawsuits. I also have voluntary compliance from 13 states, including Texas and several others. Even on Christmas Eve, Andrew, I had Secretary of the State uploading their data in the DOJ that we could do our work on it and help them clean their voter rolls. And so we're engaged in a corridor and settlements with almost every state.

I got North Carolina really on to actually put a sudden one agreement with us to clean up over 100,000 voter records that had been improperly recorded and they didn't get the correct data about citizenship from those voters. I'm suing Georgia, including for the Fulton County ballots that we requested several months ago and that they refused to give us.

So we're in multiple lawsuits over there. And of course, even after we filed that lawsuit in the same week, we filed a lawsuit last week, all that use came out, about hundreds of thousands of improperly recorded votes with an appropriate chain, a presidency, and other indicia in Georgia. So it is really important work. We're excited about it. I wish I had more hands than what people at the DOA, they do this work, we are hiring very aggressively.

So if anybody watching this is a lawyer who wants to come out their country, it's for a duty, and help clean up our voter rolls, ensure election integrity, we're looking to hire people, on that. And so I'll just keep people posted. As people as safe they're refusing to give me their data, we get to a point where we know it's going to be they know we see that. And so we put our money where our mouth is. And, you know, I would have thought when I got in there, Andrew, that I would have some template to pull from because surely the DOJ did this before, right? Right. They never did it before. No Republican administration

or even Democrat administration did voter roll litigation before. And so, it's so important. I want to pause you there. Is this something Blake brought up earlier that, you know, you look back at what Tom Emmer was saying about the Somali population 2015. We need them. They're more American and they're going to assimilate and all the time. He said they assimilated better than any other group and they were, you know, the Germans had done the exact same thing. Yeah. That's what he said. So that's what he said. But Blake made the astute point that now Tom Emmer is on Fox basically calling for prosecutions and accountability. And listen, I'm not necessarily letting him off the hook for being a part of the problem in the first place.

What I am saying is the tone and tenor of the entire conservative movement. If you took a snapshot in 2015 and then you took a snapshot in the end here of 2025, going into 26, the aggressiveness, the just conservativeness of the people in power and the people in charge, we are light years ahead of where we were a decade ago. Thanks to President Trump. Thanks to Charlie Kirk. Thanks to people like you, Harmi. And so I just want to I just want to make sure.

as there's all this consternation and frustration in the base, it seems, with lack of results, we are moving in a very good direction. We have Harmeet Dillon at the DOJ, suing states to clean up voter rolls and having massive results. The implications of that couldn't be bigger, Harmeet, because it's going to affect the midterms. It's going to affect 2028. That's huge. What states, I have to just ask, are the worst on the voter rolls? Who is fighting you the most? cleaning up their voters. Is it California, I would presume, but... Well, California has defraeate resistance mode, New York, may, you know, and look, Illinois, the usual suspects.

All these states where they don't require voter ID, they don't, I mean, Minnesota, my goodness, you can, I mean, Scott Pressler, a friend of mine posted about this yesterday where you can go in and simply vouch for somebody's address. Like, you can bring your eight Somali buds in and say, I vouch for the person's address. That's all you need. You don't need a utility bill.

You don't need anything but some potential fraudster vouching. That's insane. You can't run a country like that. We're running out of time, but I just want to say, good work. We have your back 100%. And thanks for the updates. Thanks for sticking with it. And thanks for educating people a little bit.

I think that was important. We will have you back on again soon. Keep up the good work. Thanks for having me. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.