The Charlie Kirk Show - Will New York Be Conquered By The Red-Green Alliance?

Episode Date: June 25, 2025

Well, the warnings didn't work. 33-year-old Marxist Muslim immigrant Zohran Kwame Mamdani is the Democrat nominee for NY mayor. Charlie reacts and explains why this is such a watershed moment, and he talks to Senator Eric Schmitt about the Big Beautiful Bill, Trump's Middle East masterclass, and the flailing of the D.C. warmonger class. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!  Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com! Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio. A Muslim is likely to be elected as mayor of New York City who's also a socialist. We explain and do you feel okay that the mayor of London and New York will both be Muslims? Something doesn't seem right about it. Email us as always, freedom at Charlie Kirk.com and get involved with Turning Point USA today at TPUSA.com. That is TPUSA.com. Start a high school or college chapter today at tpusa.com. As always, you guys should subscribe to our podcast. And we also have Senator Eric Schmidt to talk about NATO and more.

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He flew across the Atlantic, didn't sleep, held meetings with all the world leaders, a very, very successful NATO meeting. Sometimes these NATO meetings can be very boring without news. President Donald Trump was able to lock down more NATO funding, more NATO agreements, really positive relationships. You can see these world leaders are starting to finally get the whole Trump thing. When he first visited NATO a couple years ago, really positive relationships. You can see these world leaders are starting to finally get the whole Trump thing. When he first visited NATO a couple years ago, it was like so antagonistic.

It was so nasty. And now they have finally acquiesced. They have surrendered to the inevitable, which is a strong country and a strong West. Our goal is to strengthen the West. The West is best! And what is the West exactly? The West is the best blend of reason and revelation. As Harry Jaffa would say, it's the blend of the ideas of Athens and Jerusalem. It's not simply just reason, but also a belief in the divine,

that there is a God and we are not him. We believe in separation of powers, private property, individual initiative, entrepreneurship. We believe in strong families, protecting children. We believe in borders. We believe in freedom of speech. The Western values that have made our civilization so great are under attack from within. We must be very clear about what we're standing for and what we want to try to see reinvigorated in this country. The Ten Commandments are a pillar to what we should all live under morally.

We have the civil law, which is borders, strength domestically. We want a police force, very basic things, men not in female sports. What's happening in New York City is an insurgency against the West. Last night, as we have been covering it more and more, Zoran Mamdani, a 33-year-old, only two years older than me, guy not born in this country, just fine, came here legally and he wants to become a... I don't even know if he... is he a fully naturalized U.S. citizen? I think he is. Again, that's not relevant. He is? Okay. He's fully naturalized, but he wasn't born here. And Zoran Mamdani became a citizen seven years ago got

it is a Muslim which is part of the story and I have been unafraid to point it out but most importantly is that he is an anti-western manifestation of the two forces that want to destabilize this country. Now, of course, the media, they lose their mind any time I say that Islam is not compatible with Western civilization. But we have plenty to show for it. I endorsed Zoudi Jasser run for Congress. Abe Hamade is Muslim and we endorsed him for attorney general and did a lot of work for him.

It's partially about that. But it is very clear that Mamdani is wearing the costume to destroy the greatest, once greatest city and the largest city in America. And we must ask ourselves the question and we have the courage to do this on our show, are you comfortable with both London and New York having Muslim mayors? I'm sorry, I think we should have a little bit of caution with that. That doesn't feel right. I don't need a chart, I don't need a graph, I don't need a peer-reviewed study.

There's something about having both London and New York, the two financial centers of the West, of the Anglosphere, both have Muslim mayors and lots of other cities as well. Once Calgary and Rotterdam. So we have to take a step back and say, how did we even get here? And is it a good thing? Some people say, oh, it makes no difference. It's no difference that both London and New York have potential Muslim mayors. I mean, one has Sadiq Khan is London, he is the mayor, and then New York City. It looks like Zoran is the favorite to become the mayor of New York. And he is as bad as it gets. He wants to globalize the intifada.

He wants to sanction Israel. He's a legitimate anti-Semite, anti-Western. He wants to have city run groceries. He wants to freeze the rent, build affordable housing, creating city owned grocery stores, fare free buses. He wants to expand and protect gender affirming care for all young people, which of course is at odds with Islam, but that's the point, is that Islam is a means to the end of destruction of the West. He wants to end all cooperation with immigration's custom and enforcement in ICE. He wants to raise the minimum wage to $30 an hour, and he wants to make New York City

a LGBTQIA plus sanctuary city. And you might say how on earth is someone who is an Islamist, who is Shia Muslim get along with the LGBT jihadis? They both have in common. They hate us. They hate you. They hate what I articulated previously. They hate Western civilization.

Put up on screen 462 this is Zoran Kwame Mamdani. Queer liberation means defund the police. Now how does this happen? It happens because you become what you import. You become what you allow into your country. He's an intersectional monster. He's the worst of all of the potential coalitions against us. He's a radical communist and he's unafraid to say that he wants to, he is, he leads with his Islam. People say, oh Charlie, the fact he's a Muslim means nothing. It means something. It doesn't mean everything. To be clear. It means something, it doesn't mean anything, everything. Here is Zoran Mamdani saying, a Muslim belongs in City Hall. He leads

with his Islam. Now when I say, it's very interesting, when I say Christians belong in the White House, I get called a Christian nationalist and a dangerous fascist. But when I notice that an Islamist says that Muslims belong in City Hall, it's perfectly fine. He's called a... What does the New York Times say? Let's see how they're covering this. They say... Actually, they printed before the results, how did the Wall Street Journal do on this? They also printed before the results. But they say that this is a hopeful and amazing journey. So when Christians want to run for office, we are terrible fascist Christian nationalists, when Muslims want to do it,

they're met with affection affection play cut 395. How the lotter million Muslims in the city. 200,000 of us are registered to vote as Democrats in the last election only 7% of us voted. I will not blame anyone because often it feels like there isn't much to vote for. But this June 24th, with early voting starting tomorrow, it is an opportunity, an opportunity for us to show

that Muslims don't just belong in New York City, we also belong in City Hall. He is talking to an Islamic audience, for those of you that can't see the visual, saying that we Muslims belong in City Hall. Remember, Muslims do not believe in separation of mosque and state. We as Christians have to try to convince other Christians to get involved in politics because we as Christians do not value power as an ultimate goal. We don't. We as

Christians view truth, love, goodness, mercy, forgiveness, community, family, church, way above power. In fact, we as Christians are actually really kind of afraid of power because we don't want it to be corrupted. We don't want to use that power for bad aims or bad ills. If you distill most of the Islamic texts, if you synthesize what Muslims believe, mainly it's about power. And don't take my word for it, we as Christians believe the greatest man ever to live, the crucifix I have right here, Jesus Christ our Lord

and Savior, died as a suffering servant and showed us how to live and rose again from the dead, living a sinless life of turning the other cheek and forgiving your enemies and who's the greatest man they say ever live was a desert warlord who married a nine-year-old. Big difference actually. One is about conquering and power the other one is about that my kingdom is not of this world. you see that play out right now in the major power centers across the West. Charlie Kirk here. We know that rates are still high and that they can make refinancing

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President Trump deserves heroes praise on a repeated and daily basis for what he has been able to do on the southern border. No one is coming across the border. Zero is the only number that President Trump puts up with on the southern border and he deserves so much praise for that and how quickly and effectively he's been able to do that. But let's be honest everybody, that issue as long as President Trump or JD Vance or president, that issue is settled and solved. This is not about a Southern border issue. It's about deportations, but it's actually about something even more immediate. Mr.

Zoran, Kwame Mamdani, he came here legally and now he is a US citizen. Did we make the right choice? It's time for us to have an honest and open conversation about this. Was that a good move? Is this guy currently trying to make America better? Is he the best that we could possibly bring in? Zoran Kwame Mamdani, he wants to destroy New York City. He literally wants to defund the police.

Every person that we naturalize as citizen in this country should come with the question, does this person make America better or worse? And Mamdani is a perfect example of worse. Do we want more people in America named after African dictators? Well, you can't choose your name, but should make you press pause. Is Mom Donnie assimilating? When he came to this country, as he assimilated to our values, he's trying to globalize the intifada. That's what he said. We need to globalize the intifada, which means to globalize terrorism. He wants to sanction the state of Israel. He said that he will arrest Netanyahu if he comes to New York for a UN meeting. His mom says, cut 475, quote, he is total desi, completely. He's not

Farangas at all. Again, this is all like Indian talk. He is very much us. He's not American at all. He was born in Uganda, raised between India and America. He's at home in many places. He thinks of himself as a Ugandan and an Indian. Nehru told us during a recent visit to the capital. So he's Indian, not Western. Just fine, you have a right to be Indian. You're trying to be the mayor of America's largest city. I would like for you to be American. You're trying to run America's largest metropolis. It'd be good if you knew something about this place and you loved us. This is not like the mayor of Keokuk, Iowa. He's not the mayor of Fort Collins, Colorado,

and I hope you guys don't have Islamists running those cities. No, New York City is the beacon of the entire West. You think of America, you think of New York City. As John Lennon said, it is the center of the world. And they try to stop you from talking about this. Again, last night someone tried to stop me from talking to us on Twitter. They said, oh, you're an Islamophobe. It's like, it's a thought terminating cliche. And do I have, I have voted for a Muslim before Abe Hamadei. I've supported Muslim, Abe Hamadei. I've endorsed Zudy Jassim. My primary care doctor is Muslim.

It has nothing to do with that. Just, I'm not even going to play that game. And I got into a dispute with Jessica Tarlov. If you guys know who that is, whatever. And you guys can read my response. I thought my response was actually very good. It was very thoughtful. And I asked the question, what Western city, name it, has gotten better, the more Islamic that it's become? And one of the guys in the replies said, Doha. Okay, that's not a Western city. That is the capital of Qatar.

Another guy said, well, Abu Dhabi is really nice. Again, that's in the Emirates. By the way, just so we know, Doha is getting less Muslim as they import more labor from Africa to go do the work of the ruling class of Qatar. Is London better? Is Paris better? Is Amsterdam better? Is Berlin better? Is any one of these places in Europe? And it's not a matter of being racist. All that stuff is dumb. I don't do that. This is not 2015. Your little weird voodoo mind

trick doesn't work anymore. You know, they used to do this little mentalist campaign where they come up to you and they could just say like a bunch of magic words. It's like the harry potter thing. They could just kind of do a little magic work and like paralyze doesn't work that way anymore. Oh, you're an islamic. Okay. I'll stop talking. Yeah, that doesn't work. Okay. Trump destroyed that entire paradigm. Thank you. Donald trump I want to know an answer to my question without you saying a name because from Chank to Hassan, Jessica Tarlov, they all just either insult my appearance. Wow. Great. That's unique. Or they try to say I'm a bigot or I'm a slavophobe. Without your little words, can you tell me,

is London better? Is Amsterdam better? Is is Paris better is New York City better why are they not better oh okay so then why would we elect the people that are not making that city better to be mayor of that city hey everybody Charlie Kirk here brand new year brand new opportunities to change the world for the better it It's easier than you might think. You can save babies by providing ultrasounds with preborn. Together with the sanctity of human life month, we're going to save 35,000 babies to show the world that not only do we believe life is precious, but we're going to do something about it. Your gift of preborn will give a girl the truth what's happening in her body so that

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Closing fast. I hate to say it, but it looks like the Cubs are in a little bit of a slump. But hey, that was a great, I don't know if you saw the game. It was a high scoring, incredible game yesterday. Yeah. And anyway, we'll see what happens. Yeah, I might get to a game at Wrigley, Cards Cubs in September, that's my hope, we'll see.

But if I'm around, you gotta let me know, that'll be a treat. Have you ever been to a game at Wrigley? There's no experience, it's the best. Oh yeah, no, no. It's when I was in, especially in law school, started going up there with my buddies. We take the, it's not a long drive. It's a four-hour drive from St. Louis to Chicago, and it's been a rivalry. It's been around a long time. So we had a blast. Anytime we were Wrigley, we had a blast.

But as I told you, all my material that I would taunt fans with about not winning a World Series since before television, radio, it all went out the window in 2016 so I got to come up with some new stuff. You gotta get you gotta get some new material And by the way, we would do all that we do the self deprecation for you. So so senator NATO was really something to me to watch this we haven't covered this a lot yet on the show I feel as if the whole energy's changed. When President Trump went to NATO in 17, 18, 19, it was adversarial, it was nasty, it was how do we get out of

this? How do we kind of get rid of this filth, Donald Trump? Now it feels like there's a respect, there's an awe, there's an aura. Your analysis, Senator Schmidt, of just the vibe shift that we're seeing at NATO the last couple days. Yeah, I think you look back at that election you know, that President Trump won last November. It's hard to overstate how significant it was on so many different fronts, right? You've got a closing of our border now,

which has been very important, but also the realization among especially Europeans that this wasn't some fluke thing. This is actually where the American people are, that we want to have America first foreign policy that takes into account the core interests of the United States of America, which is principally the homeland and of course communist China. That's the real 21st century competition in that Europe needs to step up in a much more meaningful way. So when he was saying

those things, you know, in 17 and 18, there was eye rolls or a lot of venom that kind of came his way. And now there's sort of an acknowledgement that that's actually kind of a real thing. In fact, I went to Munich, I went to the Munich Security Conference in February to be, you know, an America first conservative delivering that message because so many other senators go there and they tell these Europeans what they want to hear and not the truth. And so the truth was, you have to step up. This whole idea that we're subsidizing your social welfare programs and there was never an adjustment after the end of the Cold War is ridiculous. And this isn't a fluke. This is kind of where

we're at now. And I was one of the, and then JD Vance, of course, gave the speech. I was one of like three people standing and clapping when he excoriated them over their violations of free speech and those ideals that they want to lecture everybody about. So I do think what you saw today, the reception of President Trump there, including the secretary general and some of the compliments he was making, is an acknowledgement of the Europeans that the Americans are serious about this burden sharing idea that they dismissed for so long. And if they actually get to 5% of their GDP, and not just a percentage, Charlie, but actually munitions.

Percentages of GDP don't win wars. Guns and bullets do. The problem with Europe is they've seen a real deindustrialization, including Germany, which is a big problem for them. So our defense industry has been kind of atrophied to some degree. We're trying to fix all that with President Trump, but theirs is to a much larger degree. But this is at least a good step for them to acknowledge that's where they need to be. And we just need to hold them accountable to that. Yeah. And so, and Senator, the vibe shift is good for Europe. I mean, we want Europe

to actually have a stake in their own defense. We don't want, you never want a continent freeloading on another continent for their defense. It actually messes up the incentive structure. For example, they're like, oh, if America's paying for it, then this Russia-Ukraine war can keep on going. This is very basic incentives when it comes to foreign policy. It's good for us and it's good for them.

Yeah. And in fact, just to kind of put this in perspective, if they actually spent as much on their defense as we do, it would free up Charlie about $330 billion every year, every year, for us to focus on what are our core national interests. And that has to be the vast expanse of the Pacific and the rising China, right? It isn't to say that Europe isn't relevant, but the truth is, our biggest threat isn't coming from that side of the world. Our biggest threat potentially comes from China. If you believe in scarcity, like I do, if you have a strained industrial base, if you're building a bunch of tanks for a land war in Europe,

you're not building as many long-range fires in the Pacific that you need. These are the kind of like decisions that we need to be able to pivot that for too long. Like I said, there was no adjustment. No president wanted to go over there and tell the Europeans this. It's intoxicating. You go over there, they shower you. And I didn't want to go over there for that. I just wanted to say, look, I'm an American. I'm from the Midwest. Here's how we see it. You guys need to step up. But I think President Trump's victory in November made that very real for them. And I'm glad to see that they're saying the things they're saying today. So now I want to shift a little domestically here. I know you have some very strong opinions

on the big, beautiful bill and how it's proceeding. What do you think on timeline? And has anything significantly changed in the midst of all of these negotiations? Yeah. So to think of it this way, we'll have another lunch here in a half hour, get some more updates. The process that on the Senate side, there's something called the birdbath, meaning it has to be related to budget issues and not purely policy. So some things get bounced, some things go back in. For example, the parliamentarian bounced this illegal immigrants can't get snap benefits, but really it was because of the way it was drafted coming over from the House. So the hope is that we change that and that goes back in. So there's some of that stuff that just is like moving parts that will get fixed. But there's still, you know, some things we need to work out the salt thing. I mean, you I've talked about it on your show. I don't know why we'd be subsidizing JB Pritzker and in Gavin Newsom's bad ideas to the extent that we are. But that's a negotiation.

The truth is, I think that we'll get that language, that text in the next day or two here in the Senate, and then the shot clock sort of starts. We'll have a Voterama, and that could very well happen this weekend, and then we'll have a product to send over the House and hopefully be done. That's sort of best-case scenario. But everybody's committed. I will say, even though there are disagreements about where certain things should land, everybody's committed, I think, to delivering this bill because so many of President Trump's

key priorities are in it. I know that's where I'm at and I think we're going to get there. Yeah. And so what is what is then the Senate parliamentarian role? There's been a lot of Twitter chatter about the Senate parliamentarian being kind of a tyrant. I know I know that's part of the birdbath. And so can are there any major campaign promises that our audience should expect that might be removed by the parliamentarian? No, because the ones like, say, no tax on tips or no tax on overtime, those are all legit. Yeah, that's are purely tax issues. When you get into some other things like for example, kind of restraining, which I, by the way,

would love to be able to do, some of the nationwide injunction language that was in the House bill, the House doesn't have to worry about those things, but when it comes over the Senate, it changes a little bit. That's probably going to get bounced and stay out. We should still do something about it, but it won't be in the reconciliation, which is kind of a unique creature. After Richard Dixon was impounding a lot of money in the 70s, Congress said, look, we wanna kind of restrain some of that

and we're gonna have a more efficient way to actually do this kind of reconciliation process, but you can only do it if you've got a majority in the House and Senate and the White House. And that's where we're gonna have a more efficient way to actually do this kind of reconciliation process, but you can only do it if you've got a majority in the House and Senate and the White House. And that's where we're at. That's why it only takes 51 votes here in the Senate as opposed to the normal 60. So we wanna take advantage of that,

but of course we've gotta make sure we can only lose a few people on these issues. And that's kind of where the negotiation goes. And JD, if we've got 50 votes, JD can break the tie, but we gotta hold everybody but three on this stuff. Help me understand why any part of Joe Biden's green news scam still exists in this bill. Why not all of it? I mean, what is what can you can you steel man that argument for me?

I mean, let me let me play. Yeah, this is not my I'm fine with getting rid of all of it. That's what I advocate for. I want to find as much savings as we can by also delivering on President Trump's message. So he put me in like the Senate conservative camp on this stuff. But there are some people who would argue that if you're going to get rid of them, you want to wind them down over a period of time because there have been certain investments that have been made.

The problem with that, Charlie, though, is some of those same folks want to extend the life long enough past 2028. And you can imagine why they would, because they want to resuscitate it if for some reason the Democrats are ever back in charge. And so I do think it's an opportunity for us to end the Green New Scam. And a lot of the things that are just totally inefficient that make us more vulnerable, honestly, they're not healthy for the grid.

We're actually having a hearing in the Judiciary Committee this week about how China has been trying to influence US energy policy to make it less resilient. Meanwhile, they're building coal-fired plants every week. and they want our grid to be more dependent on intermitten energy sources. And so I think it's important that we get this done and wind those things down quickly. Last question here, Senator. There's a lot of focus on the southern border and, of course, how President Trump has hermetically sealed it. He deserves such great credit for it. What's happening in New York, I think, is a wake-up call right now for a lot of Americans of what we are doing on the legal immigration side. If you come here and assimilate,

all of us obviously support that, but there's a problem, I think, on the legal immigration side. Is there any appetite in the Senate conference to make changes to our legal immigration system as we have this very unique majority? that we want to make a priority that would expand the expedited review and which allows you to get rid of people who've been here right now you're kind of limited to people who've been here for two years or less for expedited removal. We want to expand that larger classes longer period of time so that more people can be, you know, deported quicker. I think that would have a lot of support in our conference. But let's not forget to kind of going back to the big, beautiful bill. There's funding in here for more detention beds, more resources for mass deportations. That's what we need. And the reason why it's here, just like some of the defense priorities, is if we do it

in the big, beautiful bill, Charlie, we front load that for the next three years, the Democrats can't negotiate. They can't hold that hostage when we do the normal appropriations process. Typically, what they do is they'll hold hostage our immigration priorities and our defense priorities for massive social welfare spending. So if we do that now in the big, beautiful bill, we don't have to negotiate with Democrats for our immigration policy and our enforcement because we'll already have the money dedicated to more beds, more ICE agents, things like that.

So that is another reason why the big, beautiful bill is so important because it will help us, you know, deliver on President Trump's message, which is, if, you know, here's how we're gonna deal with mass migration, we're gonna deal with mass deportations. Prybest student loan debt in the United States totals about $300 billion. Yreify does not care what your credit score is.

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Senator. Yeah, I think you and I were tracking this the same way. Is that look, I'm a firm believer you got the camp of President Trump, Vice President Vance, you put me in that camp. I know you are sort of American realist, right? For a long time, we've had this wandering foreign policy that the neo-libs and neo-conservatives were espousing that just felt like there was we were involved in, we were, their idea was to be everywhere all at once all the time.

We can't do that. And, um, I think we should learn some lessons from the last 30 years. And I can't, I mean, he, president Trump handled it exactly the right way. And in a way that, um, I think restores confidence in not only American strength, but restraint, right? Not American strength, but restraint, right? Not just strength, but restraint. And those bunker buster bombs dropped from B-2s, by the way, that took off from Missouri. That's an incredible feat.

30 hours in the air. Yeah. Yeah. And I've been in there. These guys, it's just amazing. The aircraft's amazing. But to be able to do that and then drop those bunker busters on something the size of a desk from that altitude is amazing. I talked to President Trump

Yesterday we talked about it and it's just it's just amazing. He's very proud of him, but But to be able to do that and then immediately pivot to peace Right not to get in he resisted a lot of calls from a lot of people in Washington to get further engaged To have more entanglement there in the discipline that President Trump had to deal with what's something that was in the core national interest of the United States, very clearly limited, articulated, which was they can't have a nuclear weapon, but not to become like, you know, to have outside regime change or we're going to build a democracy in Iran. But to move away from that and get the parties together

for a ceasefire, he should win a Nobel Prize for it. He certainly should get all the accolades, the right books about it, I think, someday. But I think it's for those of us who've been longing for a leader who actually believes this, it was just, I think, an incredible accomplishment. Yeah. And so some people on Capitol Hill, and I'm not going to name names, but some of your colleagues were calling for regime change, and he resisted that. That is a failed old model of using American force for nation building.

If the Persian people want to rise up, we will be their biggest cheerleaders and their biggest moral advocates in non-military, non-interventionist ways. You get in, you get out, and we're not going to involve ourselves into a permanent quagmire. Senator, he almost created a third way. It's not isolationism, it's not interventionism. It's the Trump way. That's right. And here's the thing. And when I went to Munich, I tried to articulate this to reporters too, because what does this actually mean?

It means, what are the core national interests of the United States? We seek diplomacy first. And if we have to, you use overwhelming force. It's very kind of a Jacksonian model. But again, a big departure from the worldview of a lot of people in this town. I mean, I will tell you when my first two years up here, this is my third year, first two years up here, just some of the, like the disconnect

of the conversations in Washington versus ones back home in Missouri was stark. Every lunch, we were talking about Ukraine and Ukraine funding. Not one person in Missouri, and this is not an exaggeration, has ever come up to me and said, you know what, Eric, what I really want you to do is spend another $80 billion on Ukraine. Not one, but that dominated everything here. And I think there were those of us who believed there was a different way and that Europe

should step up and we need to focus and we need to pivot and all those sorts of things. But really when you have a president like President Trump, who started this transition, I think in 2016, when he won, and then now it's on full display and it works, it just brings more people along. And that's a good thing. We should welcome more people into this camp and move away from this failed foreign policy that again is wandering. It's never ending. There's always something more to get involved with. And I think people were concerned about another protracted conflict in the Middle East that we get involved with. And

President Trump, I think, showed that kind of restraint after doing what he needed to do with the bunker busters to take out the nuclear program So it's a big success Meandering into the wilderness while our own country collapses senator. Thank you so much, and I hope I hope we don't get swept go Cubs Thank you Alright, buddy. Thank you. Thanks so much for listening everybody email us as always freedom at Charlie Kirk comm Thanks so much for listening and God bless For more on many of these stories and news you can trust go to Charlie Kirk comm