The Charlie Kirk Show - You Do Not Want to Live in a Non-Christian Country

Episode Date: September 4, 2025

American power on display - it's just what we wanted. Alex Marlow joins to dissect President Trump's drone strike on a Caribbean drug boat and the problem with America's broken H-1B visa system. Plus, Charlie and Nathan Finochio of TheosU discuss the threat Islam poses to Westeen society, the new youth Christian revival , and what our countries becoming non-Christian m would really mean. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!    Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey, everybody. Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio. President Trump bombs. Trende Aragua from the sky. Alex Marlow discussed that, H-1B visas and more. And then Nathan Finocchio joins the show. Should we ban Islam? Is Islam a religion? We discuss. Email us, as always, freedom at Charlie Kirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. That's the Charlie Kirk Show podcast page. Get involved. Get subscribed to Charlie Kirk Show podcast page. Buckle up, everybody here. We go. done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job. Building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly

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Alex, I want to start with a story yesterday, which I love, and it was not getting enough coverage. We can go to the B-roll. President Donald Trump has been very clear that he wants to shrink the map and focus on hemispheric dominance. He was trying to end wars abroad and really focus on our own hemisphere being abused. Yesterday, this is the MAGA doctrine, otherwise known as the Monroe Doctrine 2.0. President Donald Trump authorized a military strike yesterday of drug runners and drug traffickers of Trendaaa Aragwa that were bringing life-ending drugs to the United States.

You can kind of see here in a speedboat. They're in international waters. I don't know all the legal technicalities here. Obviously, it passed the muster because they authorized it. And they did a drone strike in the Caribbean. Alex, what are your thoughts here? I'm at least thrilled finally that we're using military force in our own hemisphere against people that would have done harm against the American homeland.

They actually are a much greater threat. what you are seeing on screen are a much greater threat than Vladimir Putin. Those drug traffickers would have killed a lot more people than Russian soldiers, Alex Marlowe. Yeah, you're absolutely right about this, Charlie, and this is just perfect in terms of Trump national security doctrine, focusing on our hemisphere first, which I will tell you, our national security editor, Breitbart News, Francis Martel, she's a Latin American woman, and I'll tell you, this hits such close to home with people who've survived of ancestry who survived communism in our hemisphere and have seen Democrat after Democrat and the staff. Republican, after establishment Republican in this country, focus on Europe, focus on the Middle East and not remember our own hemisphere. Now, we're all aware of the threat of far east in China, but China has an encroion that's taking place into that exact hemisphere into Central and South America. And so I look at all of this as countering China. But let's be

specific about fentanyl and drugs and these gangs that are taking advantage of our open border and have created these industries that bring devastating drugs, the type of stuff that not just ruin lives, but ruin families, ruin communities. They come up into our country and we've allowed it, we've tolerated it. And Trump comes in, one fell swoop, wipes out a bunch of them,

sends an unbelievable signal that if you try to bring this poison into America, you're going to face deadly consequences. It is just peak Trump and I love it. Yeah, and let's talk more about that, though, because for so long we've been worrying about the Taliban, the hills of Afghanistan, the planes of Iraq. And I mean, what is the philosophical recalibration here, Alex? The profundity here. Like, no, actually, show me some threats here. And you notice, there hasn't

been a lot of pushback on this from the Democrats. There's been a little bit. But deep down, they know that this is a completely defensible military action, right? It's drug trafficking, Caribbean, nothing good that was happening here. Alex Marlow. Yeah, but unfortunately for the left, they still have a few people on Bluey, the Bluey app and on X the Everything app where they do tweet out that this was illegal somehow, because remember, anything Trump does must be illegal. And that's just great because then we get a new cycle of getting to dunk on them. So I love that too, because inevitably someone is going to say taking out illegal alien gang members

or Trenda-Ragwa gang members who are trying to work with cartels to get illegal and elicit fentanyl into our country to kill Americans, that that somehow is illegal for president to deal with them. No, it's great. It's wonderful. And it's just a reminder that President Trump and Secretary of State Rubio has done a good job of this. Keeping an eye on our own hemisphere is a big global reset that we've not seen from any other American politician and is very effective. You know, you have to wonder, is there going to be a judge soon that's going to require Trump to undo the strike of the 11 people that were killed? And again, it's, by the way, Another court is blocking the deportation of Trenda Aaragua members after we just destroyed 11.

I'm all for this. And the deterrence of this. Imagine if you are right now a drug trafficker that is planning to go bring in drugs tonight. You're like, man, I don't know if I want to do that. My, my hombres just got blown up by something in the sky. It is a massive deterrent against future drug trafficking, Alex. Yeah, of course it is. And it's a signal to China that they had to knock it off.

And again, all rows lead to China with Trump's. foreign policy. Remember, they got built in road. They're expanding into South America or that. They're trying to dominate trade by cutting deal with Brazil, Chile, Peru, and they're trying to dominate lithium extraction in Bolivia. All of this is protecting us. So you can just choose whatever you think is the biggest geopolitical threat and this should fit into that narrative. And that's why the left is going to have to hold their nose on this one because they know this is a good thing, ultimately in the end. But he's protecting Americans and he's doing with surprise devastating strikes, which does, Charlie, to your point, said in a signal to the rest of the world that if you mess with America,

there's a new sheriff in town, and that's exactly what we need. Shifting gears here first, just to repeat this, though, a two-one decision U.S. Appeals Court has blocked the Trump administration from deporting Venezuelan Trend de Aragua members using the Alien Enemies Act. These court stories don't get as much play as they did because we know they'll get appeal and overturned. But this is just yet another example. The Trend de Aragua members are pumping drugs into our country, and the court says that we are not allowed to deport them. So just another little item there. Alex, what is your thought on the H-1B discussion?

We learned the other day that 75% of all H-1B visas just came from India. There's a lot of uproar here about the amount of H-1B workers. That's 400,000 a year. Meanwhile, they are bragging about how they're taking America. American jobs and how Americans have to train their replacements. What are your thoughts here, Alex Marlin? Yeah. And first of all, quickly on the court ruling, that this is exactly why I wrote breaking the law, which you've been so kind to promote over and over again, Charlie, is that this is not going to stop until there's massive reform and there will be reforms. But it's why we need to

remain engaged and vigilant, because this is their new resistance. This is so much more effective than anything that you're going to see on MSNBC or any sort of Hollywood grassroots stuff like the last Trump administration. None of that's working at all. This is the only thing. The Democrats are incompetent. Jasmine Crockett is nothing like this. These courts are blocking Trump and they're all acting as if they're presidents of the United States holding up the executive agenda. It's an outrage and it's a big deal. But to your big point, which I'm deeply passionate about, H-1Bs, I've been thinking about this in a very specific context with these Indian families. And I do not have, I don't want to personalize this, make this some sort of a race thing

because it's not. Here is the point. Americans are here. We pay exorbitantly into the system. Our parents pay into the system. Our grandparents pay into the system. My mother-in-law was a daughter of the American Revolution. It's countless generations of people. And we all pay in.

We have roots down. We work through all of the nonsense. I live out in California. The tax rate is insane. We all go into deep debt on student loans. And then our children eventually come out and they want to get a job. And we look at the visa system. And these companies see that there's an Indian somewhere who's also trained.

who was willing to do the job for 15% less. And all of that history is just thrown out the people who have put their roots down, the people who, regardless of their homeland, their nation, their people are here. And we just import people because they're willing to work for 15% less to raise the stock of Microsoft by half a percent.

That's ridiculous. It should be unacceptable. It should be illegal, to be frank with you, and should be severely limited to extreme overachievers who are willing to put down roots in America. That's the limits of immigration right now, in my view. Yeah. And so what is the major driving force here? Is it corporations? And why is it that the nation of India is so okay with this? Why do they want to keep on exporting some of their best and brightest? What do they get in return from this? Well, I think they have a lot of population. And I do think that they are having a relationship with America where we're somewhat dependent on them. I think it's probably an advantage for them politically. And I do think that there's a lot of money that's also sent back by remittances as well. So I see this as a probably overall a net positive.

for them. I just find it deeply disturbing that we never frame up this conversation, Charlie, in a way that thinks about American families and the history of American families that have been here and have been dealing with our system. And our system is expensive. And our system in this country with the amount of taxes that we pay, with the cost of living, the student loan griff that you've written about better than anyone. All of this should go into the fact that why American families think that you should be able to get 15% more for these jobs. And of course, it's driven by these CEOs by these corporations and this is the corporatization of America continues to have a lot of really negative side effects. Charlie Kirk here, ready to own a home. The time to act is now.

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this is just this is what happens in chicago this is brandon johnson and j b pritzker's chicago play cut 365 according to online records livingston's history of random acts of violence against women goes back eight years in 2017 he was accused of randomly attacking two women months apart both cases were dropped in 2002 livingston was sentenced to five years in prison after prosecutors said he punched and attempted to rob four women within 20 minutes in the loop. And yet, just 14 months later, in 2003, while on parole, Livingston was arrested for hitting a woman in the face on North Michigan Avenue. And in 2024, he was sentenced to 100 days in prison after punching a 15-year-old girl.

Alex Marlow, that's just one example of many. He keeps on assaulting women, but the left keeps on letting him out because of cashless bail. Alex Marlowe, what is your analysis now of what's happening in D.C.? It looks to be a phenomenal success, and is it time to scale? Hey, you don't have to take my word for it. The mayor's on board and additional members of D.C. City Council are saying, yeah, they're on board. So, of course, it's going to work. The question is, can Trump legally expand this because of home rule policies that Trump has, I think,

leveraged effectively? Because all these cities need him and it is a terrific use of our resources to try to restore law and order. I think that we're heading towards a law and order election as of now. We're far far away off from it, but I do think this will be the number one issue in forthcoming elections. And the culture in Chicago has just been total lawlessness. Again, in breaking the lie, I wrote about Kim Fox and other Soros-funded operative, who is the DA there for a very long time and her letting out 25,000 felony cases. She refused to charge gang members in a veteran's murder. She, this was, she was on the side of Juicy Smouillier, the,

hate crime hoax her and kind of laughed when he eventually got away with it. She gloated, acknowledging that he was probably guilty, even though we ended up getting away with it in the end. That's the culture about crime in Chicago, and J.B. Pritziger acts like there's nothing we can do about it. Well, Trump could prove him wrong in a second. And I think that it is, if Trump can do it, he should do it because it'll clean up a iconic American city and it'll make Trump look great in the process.

Yeah. And just, again, the success of D.C. is remarkable. Let's just don't take, again, my word for it. Let's play cut 281. Here's why Democrat cities are plagued by violence should consider getting on board. If you look here at Washington, D.C., at a two-week period this year compared to last year, property crime is down 20%. But the biggest thing are all of the violent crimes, often including robbery, which is down 60%. Homicides are down 71% from last year over this exact same period of time. Assaults with a dangerous weapon, down 10%.

Yet, if you listen to Democrats, they don't care about those statistics. Alex, you say that you think we might be heading towards a law and order election. It's about time. We do not have enough prisoners in America. We don't have enough arrests of people. I pulled this yesterday. This is an amazing, amazing statistic. So this is one of my favorite stats that's never talked about.

It's called the national clearance rate. The clearance rate is what percentage of murders get solved. Pretty simple. Right. So in 1965, what if I told you 92% of all murders got solved? Now the clearance rate's now 50%. What has changed in the last 60 years, where we now have a 40-point decrease in the national clearance rate? That means 40% more murderers are just walking free.

Alex Marlow, one minute, remain. Yeah, that's exactly the point that I think that we can take advantage of and start using to try to clean up this country, is that the left has intentionally protected criminals. They think the law, they think the shoplifter vote, and apparently the murderer vote is just very powerful within their base. And they pander that group of people for some reason. And they came up with some temporary hack where their crime stats can go down if they simply don't pursue crimes, if they don't prosecute whatever they can avoid prosecuting. And then it clears their roles, but it ends up just making the cities more lawless and it means that we don't get

justice for people who deserve it. So this is a easy lane for conservatives to step up and say that We're going to be the ones who restore law and order in the society. The left hates law and order because they prefer chaos. That's the whole George Soros model. And we have a huge opportunity here. And Trump has seized that clearly. And now it's time to encourage him to keep going. Alex Marlow, author of Breaking the Law.

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Nathan is the founder of TheosU and Theo Seminary, author of Hearing God and Killer Church. Nathan, welcome to the program. Nathan is without a doubt one of the smartest and most important theological thinkers of this generation. Nathan, welcome to the program. Hey, it's good to be on the show of the guy that was on South Park. You're gilded for eternity.

You've been knighted, sir. Sir, Charlie Kirk. Well, thank you. And you're sitting in my chair as I'm location unknown. Nathan, there's so much happening. Why don't you take a moment just introduce yourself, your work, your scholarship. You are a deep thinker, and you should be taken very seriously. when you say something, I listen, and I mean that.

So please, Nathan, take a moment to introduce yourself and your line of work, please. Yeah, yeah. So this is what a theologian looks like, and I apologize for letting you down. But, you know, I love God. I love the church. And I think that the church in America and across the world is doing better than we think, first and foremost. Secondly, needs a lot of work. I believe that Jesus is coming back for a glorious bride,

and she's not there yet, but she's on the treadmill, and she's doing keto. And so that's sort of my line of work is just helping Christians think and helping churches think about the big picture. And so that's kind of what I do. Thayosu and Theos Seminary are how we train Christians to think about things. and think about politics, think about the church and society, think about, I mean, there's

everything, people have been saying that, that, you know, Christians are getting more political, but it's like, no, politics are getting a lot more theological. And so we need people, particularly Christians, namely Christians, to think theologically about politics, et cetera. So we're not like a political organization by any means, but just de facto, if you're theological, you're now political. So that's kind of what we do. I want to just focus on something you just said. Politics is becoming more theological. What do you mean by that? Well, yeah, I mean every bit of legislation is moral. Every single time that a decision is made is moral and where do

morals come from? So they come from somebody's morality. So whose morality is the legislature ascribed to and prescribing for the populace. So yeah, debates about about sexuality and gender and even nationalism and borders and crime. These are theological issues. And they're profoundly theological. I follow a black pastor named Jamal Bryant on Instagram who is like a devout, you know, Democrat, and he believes, he would say the exact same thing, you know, that politics are, they're theological, because they have to do with people. And if you're speaking about people, people are moral beings, and every policy affects somebody's life in a certain way.

So that's what I mean by that. So what then should, how should the church act and operate in the political arena? Should the church care about politics? Should the church care about culture? What do you have to say to pastors that say, I don't get involved in that stuff? I don't get involved in politics. I don't get involved in the moral fights. I don't get involved in the cultural fights.

I just do the gospel. What would your response to them be? Yeah, so my response would be that if your business is people, and policy is always about people, then inadvertently your business is about policy and you should absolutely be concerned about policy. And I don't think that necessarily Christians need to get up and endorse candidates, like specifically,

your pastors need to endorse candidates. I think that pastors just need to talk about, they need to talk about things as they come up. You know, in people, often ask me, Nate, what should I preach on? And I just say scroll TikTok, doom scroll for an hour and you will find something to preach on. That's a great point. It's the easiest way to write a sermon is to see where your congregation is sitting and what they're going through and then just write and help them and like apply God's word to the questions that people are asking, you know,

both individually and corporately. So yeah, so I don't think that there's any way that you can sidestep anymore as a pastor or as a church leader. And once again, I'm not talking about endorsing candidates, but we have to address culture and where things are at dead on. Because if a pastor isn't doing it, somebody else is doing it. The bottom line is that your congregation is being trained politically, you know, through policy and theology. And if you're going to abdicate the throne of that, then don't be surprised when people start believing stupid things and behaving in insane ways. Yeah, and so, but why is it that the church has abdicated its role?

Why is it that the church doesn't engage? The church is silent and the church is afraid. Where did we go wrong? Was there a moment in time? Was there a teaching? Was there a trend? Was there a creed? Was there a fad?

Because the church was not like this 40, 50 years ago, but the church is largely silent on what happens outside of its walls. The church is not fighting for life. The church is not fighting against transgenderism. is not fighting for the stuff that matters. So where did we go wrong? The Seeker Sensitive Movement is the worst thing that ever happened to the American Church in 70 years. It's destroyed it. That's where we went wrong. So what kind of happened was you had a philosophy that, well, you know, the cat's out of the bag, people are going to be

immoral. Christians no longer have a seat in public life. And so rather than trying to assert ourselves in public life, we're just going to make everybody a Christian. And if we can make everybody a Christian, that's how we can change the nation. So Christians went after, the church is designed. So it's a misunderstanding of how the church is designed. A, to worship God, B, to equip the saints, and C to reach the world in that order. And seekers reverse the order. They go, the church is designed to reach people and then to equip people and then to worship God. And so when you get the design wrong, you get the church wrong immediately. We went, when you become a secret church, and a secret church is a church that's after

reaching people. And there's nothing wrong with reaching people, but you have to have the order right. And you have to, the order matters because if you make everything, like, for example, my dad's generation, when my dad, like in the 70s, for them, it's like, how do we get God to church? That's the question that they asked. now people the question that many churches ask particularly many evangelicals is how do we get people to church and so you know you're fishing for people you're trying to that's that's where all the people pleasing

starts that's where oh don't talk about this you know you're walking on eggshells constantly because you're worried about offending people because your whole mission is bringing people to church and so that's what i believe went wrong is we became seeker rather seeker friendly rather than God-friendly. And so when you're trying to please people, everything is always going to go sideways. And that's part of the reason why we become so effeminate in our teaching, in our theology, in our philosophy. Because the whole schick in evangelicalism is trying to reach people who ultimately don't care. Like, as James McDonald once said, you're just trying to fill your church with tears. And so what we have to do, and I believe that this is one of the reason why Pentecostalism

is growing like wildfire all over the world is because we have to get back. to caring about God. Like, how do we get God to church, you know, by preaching the right thing, by worshiping correctly? And the result will be that people will notice the difference and they'll want to come. So it's sort of revival counterintuitively or paradoxically. Bringing God to church, not just people to church. It's beautifully said.

You and I've exchanged some text messages on the growing threat of Islam. How should we think about Islam as Christians? Is this a threat? Is this a problem or is this kind of just, you know, not something that we shouldn't waste our time with? Yeah. So great question. Yeah. So first and foremost, you should read the church fathers, read the first 1,500 years of church history and thinkers and pastors on Islam.

Like, how did they think about it? So that would be my first. Go educate yourself on how the church fathers, the patristics thought about Islam, number one. Because what you're going to discover is that there are a lot. more, they're a lot more unkind, a lot more militant. They're close to Christopher Hitchens than they would be to many of our modern leaders. Number one, number two, I would say that I think that we were really naive a couple hundred years ago about what religion was. And I don't believe that the founders had Islam in mind when they were thinking about freedom of religion,

particularly when you're thinking of them coming out of the European context and the Protestant Reformation. And, you know, if you weren't an Anglican and you were living in England, that was going to be problems. I think that they were thinking, yeah, like, we're all Christians here. We're all Europeans here. You worship, you know, Jesus the way you see fit. I'll worship Jesus the way I see fit. I think that we have been extremely naive. You know, for example, you have Richard Dawkins about a year ago, you know, any smart atheists like Richard Dawkins.

like Richard Dawkins would say that they don't want to live really in a society where Islam has any type of political power whatsoever. They want to live in a Christian society. And so the long and the short of it for me is that you can't just say naively Islam is a religion and that's the end of. You have to understand that Islam is a political ideology and that is exactly what they want. So I don't know if I would classify it as a mere religion. And then that's where we get into the thick of things. Hi, America, it's Charlie Kirk here. President Trump walked into a catch-22 when he took office again.

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Yes. So I think that we need to, there needs to be a radical, reevaluation of how we how we characterize and understand Islam. Like we have to, we have to, it's naive to just, once again, once it's just naive to call it a religion and it just ends there. It's not. It's, it's a religion with a, with a political ideology. It has been from the very start. And, and you have to ask yourself, is this political ideology that comes like inherent in the religion. Is it compatible with Western civilization?

And Christopher Hitchens and many other very wise atheists. And anybody I think that with a brain in their heads would recognize that it is absolutely not compatible. In no way is it compatible. You know, it's funny to me, bro, because people complain about Christian nationalism and they use this term as a bludgeon, you know, to try to make people who are Christians not vote their conscience or not, you know, not vote along the things that they believe. Everybody else can believe anything that they want,

but as soon as you're a Christian, then you're a Christian nationalist and you're a problem, right? And, and you want to live, like trust me, you want to live in a Christian nationalist society. Richard Dawkins wants to live in a Christian, like England is a Christian nation. it is. Like, the queen is, or the king now, is head of the Anglican Church, like the English church. So you want that. Like, that's what you want, because Christian societies, believe it or not, are tolerant societies. Like, that's what they are. They're tolerant of religions as long as those religions are. That's what they are. They're religions. And they don't, you know, get into these militant political ideologies. There's not jihadism attached to them. And

we're playing a very big joke on us i mean we're watching it happen in england right now um like these the the grooming gangs in birmingham and and like the english just brushed it under the rug and brushed it under the rug they're conservative governments brushed it under the rug just continue to no no no you know multiculturalism and every religion is is fair it's not they're not they're not the same thing Muslims are not interested in the same thing they want power they want political power. They're taking political power. And if you think that Christians are restrictive, if you think that Christians, you know, are intolerant, you have another thing coming.

You are naive. If you don't understand exactly what Islam is, it's more than a religion. I completely and totally agree. And so this totally shifting gears, is there revival happening in America? If so, what can we do to accelerate it one minute remaining? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. There is revival happening in America. it's happening. There's churches churches all over America are growing. Churches that prioritize the Word of God and the presence of God.

Those churches are blowing up. I travel nonstop. That's what I do for a living. I speak at churches. And the churches that I go to are blowing up. Like the church is not shrinking. The church, people are becoming more religious worldwide and in America.

So spirituality is on the uptick. and the formula is like it's not a you know deconstructioned or unrecognizable spirituality it is a strong biblical spirituality that is rooted in the ancient church and that's his I do believe like I would agree with the evangelicals that yes the church is the answer Jesus is the answer for America he always will be it's not a president it's Jesus Christ but the church has to be a church that is the covenant community shaped by the covenant. It can't be a church that's trying to build with their own strategy. They have to build according to the blueprint shown to us. And that blueprint is scripture. So any church that is adhering to scripture and is engaging culture the way that the church has for 2000 years, those churches are growing.

So we are in revival and we're going to continue to see churches like that explode and take ground. Thank you so much. Author of Killer Church and Hearing God. Thanks so much for listening. Everybody, email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening, and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.