The Comedian's Comedian Podcast - Larry Dean (2020): ComCompendium

Episode Date: September 24, 2026

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Stuart here. You can go to Stuart Goldsmith.com slash comedy for tickets to my national tour. That's right. I'm taking my second ever climate comedy show. It's called Canary. I'm taking it to the Edinburgh Festival for the last two weeks of August at the Monkey Barrel, Cabaret Voltaire. And I shall see you there in the last two weeks of August. And then it's a national tour for this guy. Cambridge, Glasgow, Oxford, Manchester, Cardiff, Maidenhead, Sheffield and Birmingham, culminating in my biggest ever tour show at Bristol Old Vic. Stuart Goldsmith.com slash comedy for all your tickets. Welcome back to the show. I'm Stuart Goldsmith. This is a re-release delving back into the archives or one more time with Mr Larry Dean all the way back in episode 345. This was recorded, of course, before his rise to global fame via the brilliant SNLUK. And we will discuss being manipulated into working hard by people who understand you. Delicious. We'll talk about deliberately mining opportunities for embodying the jokes, and we'll talk about the thrill of writing for revenge. juicy stuff in here. All the way back in 2020, here's Larry Dean. So Fandam, which I know is unreleased, but I wangled a copy of Fandam, which I loved. Yeah, yeah, good, eh, isn't it? I've got my way.

But one of the most, and we could talk about that for sure, one of the most fun things was watching the set you did in Melbourne in I think 2000. I was trying to work out when we did Christchurch. We did World Buskers, I think, in 2017. Because I only had one child, so it must have been I think I can work out of the day. The boy with the most beautiful eyes in the world. I have never seen a child that I'm like, wow. He's a honey. He's quite a dish.

But we were in Christchurch, and I remember you working up that the story about the tram inspector, and knowing that you only had five minutes on stage at Melbourne, which was like a month or two later, or the next month even, I think it was like just after it. And I remember you, like you were spending a lot of time on, can I nest story A, the kind of massage fingers story, inside story B, the tram inspector story? And it was such a joy because I'd never then, we talked about it a lot at the time and you were kind of trying variations on it and timing yourself, like sneaking it in in your regular set

in the festival. And I had never actually seen the finished version of it. So just this, I watched it. It was like, I remember all of this. I remember all of these decisions. I remember all of the angst you were going through, going, I really want to get that. punchline which is a big structural callback but it's only going to make sense if there's enough of that story but I've only got five minutes. I realise now it's years ago now but I just thought

we'd start off. I remember as well as I said it's sweet that you actually remember that because I remember what do you call it when the other comic would be on and then I would just come off and then I would have like a fucking one to one like writers meeting

back there like and the kind of side the stage going around what is like that? so I knew that bit and then the recording of that actual bit I was like I don't think

I even got to do an opening joke because the timing of it was so like you have to do four minutes or we're going to cut it and I thought

you know when I think you think I don't trust I barely trust myself with my material sometimes so I'm not going to I'm not trusting

an editor because sometimes when you edit something you go oh my God, you missed a fucking joke there. That was the best bit. We need that bit for that bit later. So I was like, right, I'm just going to have to patch getting an opening joke.

I'll just have to go straight into the story. But I can even, I can, and when I've seen it back, I watch on my face that my brain is going, right, talk. Because I'm so jet lagged at that point. I'm like, talk slowly. I don't panic. If they're not laughing, it doesn't mean they're bored. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is half the fucking thoughts I have in my whole life.

man, if they're not laughing, doesn't mean they're bored. They don't hate you there. Yes. It's interesting. None of that stuff is visible. One of my observations from having seen a lot of your stuff, like I've seen a lot of it live, but this morning in particular, I've been kind of revising you. And you're like, you make it so easy. You make it look so easy. You're one of those people that's, like, it really seems effortless. Everything, like, all the bits are good and all the bits are sitting in exactly the right place. And the performance is brilliant. And you've got all of the kind of performance skills and the accents and the rhythm and your connection with the audience is great. How much is there going on under the surface?

Oh God, I might start crying. Mate, it's, yeah, fucking, I think the epitome of what I have to go through to get it to where I want it. it's it's, well, because I'm not very good at usually, if I'm not interested in itself and I won't like put 100% into it. So once I find something funny,

I get so obsessed with trying to make it work. But then, you know that annoying thing of you do a bit and then it works on your new material gig and you think, oh yeah, I got a new bit? And then the next time you do it, you go, hold on why does that fucking bit not work anymore? What, pelfily last week? And it's almost that you do it.

The first time, perfect because you've got the adrenaline and the excitement. And you can even watch the video back and watch both of them together. And then you go, oh, there must be some glistening, like glistening my eyes or something like that. Let's just push that joke over the finish line. And then for the next like 20 times you do that joke that's not working, you're trying to recreate the first time. And then it's so bizarre. And then you go, after 25 times you go, oh, for fuck's sake, it doesn't work anymore.

and then you not caring for some reason makes the joke work. So basically, we usually whenever I have a bit that works, it's usually been through so many deaths and so many me talking to, like, as you did to yourself, talking to you, at the side of the stage going, what do you think? Do you, like, what's your opinion on this? It's like each, I think most comedians don't you realize I've all, I've used them all as kind of like, in my brain as going,

well, Stu thinks it would work that way. but then this guy thinks will work that way and then maybe if I do a combination of all of them so you're all, you bitches are all my writers Mike,

what do you think this podcast is? All of you are my mentors. That's what I'm doing. So that's really interesting because you are such a, like you were really like when you were saying that glisten, that glint in your eye,

that your connection with them. It's so there, right? you've got one of those connections with an audience that you can walk on, just sort of twinkle at us. And we're like, yeah, okay, come on then. So, like, the temptation would be for a lot of acts, I think, to rely on that. Like, we've all seen acts who could have achieved more, perhaps, than they've achieved, because they're coasting on a twinkle. Like, but you've got the twinkle and you've got, you've also got this kind of,

and I don't want to use the word angst again necessarily, but you've got to, but it's more than simply a work. ethic. It's like what you're after, it sounds from how you're describing it, it sounds like you are, it doesn't work until it works every single time. Yeah, well,

I think, because even though when I always, the way I work at it is like the, you know how Chris Rock does his material deadpan the first time? I have heard that, yeah. And watching

Richard Pryor live in smoking, I think, because Chris Rock loves Richard Pryor's stuff, And I think he's taking it from Richard Pryor because watching, I think it's live in smoking. Watching Richard Pryor's live in smoking, it's like, wow, he just stands behind the mic. That's so un-richard Pryor.

And then you think, oh, fuck, he must have, like, just done it that way to kind of build it up. And I kind of, I kind of do that myself with trying to make it work because I kind of figure out the wording of the joke and then even having to think, do I wink at this point or, like, smile at this point? And then I'll work it down to my legs.

It's because the thing I always find the funnest thing is doing the physical stuff. Because, because we, when we watch ourselves back, we know the joke. So the joke's not as funny to us anymore. But like, you're more likely to laugh at a picture of yourself that you look silly in than a bit of material you've had to perform like a few hundred times. Okay. I can enjoy watching myself back when I've done something physical because I don't have to hear myself be physical on stage all the time,

if you know what I mean? Yeah, that's really interesting. Yeah, okay. This is, it reminds me of Ellis James. I remember when he was on the show, he was talking about how sometimes he'd script a bit longhand once it worked, but he'd look at the sort of transcript of it and then he'd go through with a thesaurus

and try and make the words more interesting. Like, you know, like say famished rather than hungry, stuff like that, just really tweak it. And that almost feels like a sort of a physical version of that where you're watching it back going, would this be better if my knees were splayed and I was leaning back at a 45 degree angle? It is deranged, man.

I genuinely have had mates come to my gig because there's a guy that I used to have come to my gig every day in Edinburgh. Okay. So I would be able to talk to somebody afterwards because in Edinburgh, nobody gives a fuck about like, you know,

anybody else's show apart from their own and that's completely fair enough. But I thought, if I pay for somebody's accommodation and someone's opinion I trust and give them money, would I rather, at the end of Edinburgh have, be able to have talked through every, because it's not, it wasn't my director

because my director was busy with other shows as well. Sure. I was like, at the end of the month, I'd rather have a show that I'd worked on every single day and someone they are going thinking well i've paid for this person to be there to use them to kind of like discuss what that could improve the show i'd rather have rather spend a bit of extra money because i'm going to be fucking poor at the end of august anyway and at the end of it have a good product i'm happy with yeah that's basic i think in theatre that would be called a dramaturg but i don't know

if it was i think so i feel like i'm not i may be wrong about that but i feel like there's a thing in particularly in European theatre, a dramaturg is kind of working alongside of the show. It's sort of is different to being a director. I think maybe that's not the right word. But you've effectively, that's a really smart idea to have a kind of confidant who after each show. I mean, I've had that sometimes. My friend Jay was teching my show one year, but was just particularly personally invested in it and was not simply teching it, but also show running.

and one of their jobs was to come to me before each show and say, remember to calm down. You know, I'd be like, I'd be backstage. It was a free fringe venue. I'd be backstage kind of going, I think someone just walked in at the back. I'm peeking through. I think they might be a problem.

And part of their job was to come in and go, stop looking at them. It's not, don't worry about it. To me? And so there was a certain amount of back and forth afterwards about the content. But that's really interesting. I think that's really,

that's very representative of your, like a very hands-on approach. rigorous is the word. It's like a rigorous approach to going, this is going to happen. I'm not just going to coast through a fringe run where I turn up, give it my best shot and then that's me for the day. But it's like constantly evolving and working on it. Well, you can tell why it fucked me off when my agent said I wasn't hard working enough. Oh, did they? Yeah. And I was like, do you fucking know me, bitch? When was that? That was a few months ago. I don't know, though. I was, I was, I was, I was like, right, that chat can fucking get to fuck, by the way.

I'm not having any of that. This is the only thing I work at. It's probably a test. Probably a test. It was. That's the thing. My director knows me so well. And I'm pretty sure my agent does as well because of that.

Because my, the Banpot show I did, that was 2018 in Edinburgh. So that ended up getting nominated and did well. but then a week before that show went to Edinburgh my director I've worked on all my shows with I says what do you think of the show

what do you actually think because I feel like you're holding back on what you actually think of the show and he goes well I've done all this a long time and I think sometimes you have to just go you know what

it's not my strongest show but you know that you're going to do Edinburgh the year after anyway if you don't have the strongest show you've ever done before, it's not a big deal. And that, like, alarm bells on my head. And then when I talked to him on the last week of the fringe, I said, I can't believe you said that this was one of my weakest shows.

And then he goes, do you honestly think, after knowing you for five years, I don't know what gets you working? Oh, my God. So now you've got to play the back and forth game with the people around you. the people who are Team Larry. I'm paying people to gaslight me. Oh my God. Is there, um...

Does that work for you? Does that work for someone going, I don't think you've worked hard enough on this? Is there actually a useful thing? That would crumple me. But actually does that make you go, well, I'll fucking show you? Totally, man.

Like, it's, I write more after I've been broken up with because I think for revenge, I'm going to try and make sure, I appear on their fucking television. I'm the most petty person. The reason why I got into comedy was out of someone saying I wasn't funny. Go on.

And my dad said to me, because I wanted to do comedy because I made my mates laugh and stuff in school. And then I says to my dad, I'm like, I'm going to go down south and become a comedian. And then he was like, but you're not funny? And then he kept, no matter what I did,

he just do the, like a stare at me and just be like, yeah, that's not funny. And so when he does that, I was like, fucking bring it on, you fucking Bob, actually. It's always in my head can I think, oh, I'm not funny, I'm not funny. But then, I see when you said about the

get me get along well for an audience, the thing that that is actually, the bad thing about that is, you know, when comedians say, oh, it's annoying, because sometimes the audience think I'm your friend and then they come up to me in the street and then they'll not even remember that I'm a comedian

they just start talking to me. I have the kind of, it's gone past a bizarre point of people getting touch of me to give me feedback and I'm like, I know I'm self-deprecating but I don't need you to tell me what you think works and what doesn't work. I've had a few occasions of which on Twitter they've gone I thought of a joke for you.

I'm like, I don't want to hear you off. fucking I don't want to hear it. Bye. And then it gets that weird thing of like, is this hate mail or is this then just trying to talk to me? Yeah, passive aggressive fan mail. Totally, man.

I've had one before in which some guy messes me saying, hey Larry, have you ever thought of talking about being gay on stage because I don't think you've mentioned that? So I thought, I was like, right, I'm going to respond. This will be easy. I'll respond to this one.

So I responded to him on Twitter saying, well, I guess you've not heard my timon. routine about pumping your mum but then someone underneath that went routine you're the least funny comedian I've ever seen in my life you're the fucking worst you're an embarrassment to Scotland all that stuff

that was somebody else not and then the guy who originally sent me that went ha ha ha ha fair play Larry love your stuff and then and then he messes the person who actually gave me hate and went calm the fuck down you're weird though I was just like

that is extraordinary What a complex set of relationships. Totally, but I can't handle it. Like, even the, because some people can I have a go at me for saying that I've done the same material or whatever? Because there's only so much stuff that I've got videoed. And also, the video that you watch the fan that, I'm not happy with that recording, so I'll never release it.

Yeah, right, okay. I didn't mean to say that too fast as if I could see why you, No, no, no, I mean, it's not, you know, it's not like the copy I saw was like it felt bootleggy rather than pro thing. Yeah, yeah. It was a great show. It was a fantastic performance. I wasn't happy with the performance of it though. Why not?

Let's discuss a thing that the listening public will never see, but in not too much detail. But why not? Why weren't you happy with that? It was great. The stage is quite small. Yes, okay. And it was shot at the stand, wasn't it? Yeah.

Yeah. And I didn't even use the width of a small stage, which is a kind of bad habit. Because when you've got a big stage, you feel like, oh, I can move. But when you've got a small stage, you can still move. Yeah, yeah, okay. But for some reason you feel as if you can't, because there's that fear of, who's the guy who played Fraser,

that guy? Did you ever see that video of him falling off the stage? No, I don't think it is. I can never not think of that whenever I want a small stage. Yeah, Kelsey Grammer. There's a video of him falling off the stage. of the stage and I think I saw that and just thought, I better never happened to me.

But yeah, I didn't move around enough. And also, I remember on, I was quite, my shoulders were quite high. Okay. So watching myself, I'm thinking, I'm looking at myself going, I feel like I look quite stressed. I don't think that comes across at all,

but I do know how important it is to release a thing that oneself is happy with. But I mean, I don't think that came across. Are you, what's your kind of, what's your outside eye doing during the performance? Are you aware, like, is it a struggle to lose yourself in a performance? Are you too busy correcting yourself and sort of visualising everything you're doing?

Are you ever in a sort of fun free fall of just like, I'm flowing and I'm doing this is a gig? Or are you always going, no, I'm not, I'm not happy with that. I could be doing this differently. Quick, three more degrees on the knee bend, you know? Yeah, yeah. Or is that, does that happen throughout the gig? or is that just afterwards? No, that's through it as well.

But then the best gigs are always the ones that you don't think. It's the most annoying thing. But then you start thinking, oh, this would be so much better if I wasn't thinking about it too much. And then you start thinking about why you're thinking about it and you just get trapped this fucking interstellar kind of like this spiral. But the gigs that I tend to be the looser start are the new material ones when I don't have enough time.

So if I do a... but then weirdly the worst ones I do is new material when it's a long one. So like if I do our preview, chances are it might be a disaster because I'm trying to think of too many things at once and my memory is not actually that good. But then if it's like red raw at the stand, like five or ten minutes, and I'm like, I've, you always think, oh, I don't have enough jokes for ten minutes. All these, there's not enough jokes.

But then when you get to like to the third joke, and you look at your watch and you're like oh fucking it was five minutes already that last five minutes when I know I've definitely got enough stuff it's like what was the thing about

my pal gave me such a nice compliment he said sometimes when you do a new material gig it's almost like if the floor is taken beneath you you grow wings because I'll start coming up with stuff off the top of my head because I'm like oh panicky

yes and that's quite a good kind of creative place for you to be in because you know that it's almost like you've fulfilled your obligations, you've done the stuff, you've done enough stuff, and now it's almost sometimes the best gigs are when everyone's united against a common logistical problem. You know, like if the lights go or the sound goes or something,

and then afterwards there's this, it's kind of intrinsically heroic to have continued. So the wings grow. So you kind of, you get put in that place when you're like, I've got no time left, I've got to hurry. and then the fact of hurrying means that you've got a thing to fight against. Exactly. It's like when someone, if someone heckles and is heckling through the night,

and you think, oh, if I get them to leave, it's either going to turn into the best gig ever, and everyone's going to be like, we did it, we got rid of them, or it's going to be the worst gig ever when I have to stand there on stage and wait for somebody to leave. Oh, my God. But I love that. that that kind of fight

because even I had that on the Zoom gig last week and I said something off the cuff and then I was like and then it made because Lou Conron was also in the house and it made her laugh and I was like oh yeah

and then I was like oh running out of time and then I came up with other stuff off the cuff and I've wrote it all down and I'm like oh this is fucking brilliant I'm a genius but I know for a fact the next time I do it it's not going to be funny because it's still the joke might still actually be a good joke and walk in the future,

but I'll go back to that thing of 20 times having to do it different ways because I'm trying to recreate that moment. Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it? Well, one of the central, like one of the biggest tensions, I think, in comedy is trying to say a thing as if you're saying it for the first time

when it's very scripted. Obviously, there are some comics who are literally saying it for the first time, but much fewer, much fewer of us than people think. But then do you not think as well it's not even pretending you're saying it for the first time. I always think comedians

a lot of the time are actors pretending it's going well. Because sometimes you just see people just do their material the same way. I mean, I've seen it like, I did a gig to like three people and I can't use a microphone

of those three people because it just, it's using a microphone when there's not enough people I don't know, it's not for every comedian but for me I think when I do it, it looks as if it's contrived as if I'm pretending it's a gig more than they

are thinking as a gig. Yeah, fair days. So when I, and I find that with the, I mean, this is so snobby, right? But I find that when I watch Zoom gigs, I can't take the comedian seriously if they are holding a microphone or I'd say whilst holding something

that is the shape of a microphone. Yeah, a little comfort blanket. A little meringue microphone. There we go. That's me. I'm in the guys. Because I even think holding a piece of paper has got more of a thing than that. Because the reason, I'd love to not use a microphone on stage, but then most places don't do that.

They don't allow that. But then holding a piece of paper, I think, it's half the thing of a new material night. Because then you've literally got a prop, but you've got an excuse to use that prop because they know what it's there for, but you can take in a different direction. But if you take out a different prop,

like, oh, here's a fucking puppet or whatever like that. People go, well, this better be bloody good. Yeah, if you get out your notebook, they're like, well, these jokes better be 60%. Yeah, yeah. I start pretending it's a map and shit. And then it means I get to do an impression of like a news anchor. And that was the thing I did the other night on Zoom.

I was talking about a bizarre memory I had about my first ever orgasm. and then I took the piece of paper out and I was like, what was my first orgasm letter? And I was like, why am I having to look at a piece of paper to like find out what my orgasm was? And I said, oh so it's like a news reporter and I started reading it off.

But then that's about I came up with all the top of my head. I said we've had a scientific breakthrough of Larry Dean's first orgasm. It's very similar to Moore's Law because it got twice as quick as years went on. But it was just like, my brain was just kind of going but I was in my happy place because I was looking at a piece of paper.

So I was like, oh, it's absolutely fine. I'm holding a piece of paper, so there's nothing to worry about. Yes. Tell me about new stuff just while we're on it. How many words are written on the piece of paper? Is it just, is it bullet points? You know, and when do you know something is a good enough idea to turn into a scribble on a piece of paper?

Or is it just everything? No, it's definitely not everything. I'm obviously like, because also half the time, time there's bits in which I've got to like figure out if it's offensive as well because then I've got to like um so

well like there there was a story a couple years ago I did in my show and it was about me sucking off a guy with excess skin and myself and my director

were like crying with laughter about this story right but then the issue we had was it's like it's at the end of the day it's kind of laughing at some guy with excess skin yeah so we had to literally like figure that that story can only go on a show because they need to trust me they need you know you've got to have that like levels of trust and that requires 40 minutes of trust yes yes and it requires me i've snuck caveats into the show before that to make sure that the caveats

would cover my ass when I got to that story. I don't even, like, I don't even say the caveats. I don't even say, I don't even refer to them when I'm doing the story. Yes.

But in the, the bit before, it's like, oh, it's kind of like putting, it's almost like that fucking Darren Brown shit. I'm going to put it in their head

that I'm a good person. We're going to peg that I don't judge people based on their physical appearance. 10 minutes later, we're going to peg And I'm cool, yeah, okay, fine. So that's all. I'm going to get a tattoo on my head of that, man.

Yeah. And so, sorry, sorry, interrupt you. Go on. Oh, yeah, so then the new material stuff, I'll just write notes of like bullet points mainly. But then I'll also put, I'll put, the, it's usually stuff that I know my mates have laughed at and I'll have, you know, tried it out of my mates before.

Because I've got a paler that lives in London, but he does like open mics and stuff. And we talk on the phone most days. And I'm like, if it makes him laugh, it'll probably make an audience laugh or whatever. Or even, I say it, my mum's actually a good shoot as well. I don't say I'm doing the bit,

but like if I did a joke about haemorrhoids that made my mum laugh her head off on the phone. And I was like, if that can make my 60-year-old mum laugh about hemorrhoids, then it has to work on stage. But basically it means that all my friendships and family life is contrived, because I'm just doing it to try and get material in there.

Yeah, yeah. Well, it's interesting. Because you are someone who, like, the bulk of your material is this thing happened to me, I saw this happen. You're kind of mining your, oh, you know, this is my parents, this is my friends. You're kind of mining funny things having happened. Is that, do you ever worry that you'll run out of funny things to happen or that you ever, have you ever felt like, I've got to put myself in a situation here so that something happens

so I can get some gear out of it. Yeah, there has been points that I'm like, what the fuck am I doing? Like, I'm definitely doing this just to try and get a laugh. I brought a fire extinguisher to a zoo. Yeah, yeah. I've honestly been having sex before and I thought, I'm only doing this to try and get a new bit of it.

Oh my God. I know it's bad, but then actually since lockdown, I've started remembering loads of fucking weird-ass stories. But then also, I didn't, I used to hate caveats, not caveats, what do you call it in a show when it's sad, the 50 minute mark? Oh, yeah, well, pathos. Paphos. I used to hate Paphos,

because I think a lot of communities do because they're just like, it's such a hack thing to do. You know, like, we've all had family relatives. relatives that have died and stuff. But then I actually, I've noticed that I actually can make jokes so much funnier and a longer show. So I even started, when I was doing,

remembering all these stories at the beginning a lot down and I started like just writing them on Instagram because I don't like putting it stuff on Twitter because then you get too many opinions. But then I thought I put it on Instagram and then I put the funny ones

and then I'd eventually put in a sad memory I have. But I noticed that actually the sad memory stood out for people, but then it made them really laugh at the next story. I was like, fucking even walks when it's wrote down of a 50 minute mark. Fucking I'm putting 50 minute marks in my Instagram story. What the fuck is wrong with me, man? That's an interesting discovery. That is an interesting and terrible discovery.

But of course, you know. But then I'm trying to link fucking wanking to like, oh, my grand idea. It's like a superpower you've got that you have got such a strong Glasgowian accent and yet a big raft of, I mean, they're basically impressions you can do. It's not like you're really good at accents. You're really good at act outs. You're really good at accents. And so you can morph in quite a satisfying sort of way.

And it's quite fun. Like you've got that in your back pocket as a revelation that you can just pull out and go, bang. You know, you've got a look scary. You know, you can make yourself look a bit scary. I remember what was one of your opening lines about? like we're friendly, Glasgowans, we're friendly, but we give you directions

and then follow you to make sure you got there. That kind of, you know, you're playing with that idea of being frightening. Oh man, I regret that joke. That's a weird joke because I regret it because it's annoying of people think that's Kevin Bridges' joke.

Ah! And his one's different, much different, because he says, oh, it's like... Yeah, Glasgow's the stab capital of Europe but it was also named

Britain's friendliest city so we'll stab you but you'll get directions to the hospital, something like that sure, okay so it's the combination of friendliness and directions exactly so people were like oh he's copying Kevin Bridges's joke and I was like I fucking perform that joke in front of

Kevin twice and he didn't say anything and he met up with me before live at the Apollo to give me advice and said yeah do that joke it's funny I'm like I don't think I'm copying it's fucking I feel like that must be a bugbear for you of like because there are so effectively because there are so few Scottish working class voices in comedy, you're always going to get compared to Kevin or Billy.

Well, the other thing as well is I'm not working class. I get reviewed all the time as being working class. And I'm like, no, I'm actually very middle class. I was about to say this. And I read a review that said you were working class. And I went, oh, right, I was going to pick him up on that and go, aren't you secretly middle class? And then I fuss it like a coward because I'd read it in a review.

how pathetic is that? No, not at all, man. It's never, it's never, it's never been a secret as well. Like, because I even, I did a joke about me,

because my mum's very middle class and my dad's east end of Glasgow, working class, but then I grew up in the south side of Glasgow, which is middle class. Yeah.

So I says, I grew up in a middle class household, but then I was raised working class. Yes, I remember that bit. I remember that bit. Aye. So, but it's basically that thing

of like, So yeah, well, what was it called? Privileged, but we've got made to feel guilty about it. So I was just talking about revelations, like ways that you can wrong foot and surprise us. And obviously, like a big bomb for you to drop is that you're gay because you're, like, you're kind of post-camp gay. I don't know what the phrase is. Do you know what I mean? 2.0. Yeah.

Like we're used to. we have we like the wider audience have preconceptions about what gay men do and don't do and what they and certainly gay men in comedy how they look and how they sound and so that's like a real you can just detonate that any time you want right you can like i mean even in fandandat at the beginning you mentioned you being gay you mentioned you being gay and then do a party popper and it's just fucking it is that is such a camp 2.0 that's like gay 2.0 do i mean that whole thing of like it's such a good joke because you're just playing with our expectations in just such a lovely, gentle, silly way.

It's such a beautiful gag. Usually every year, I have to think of, oh, how am I going to come out this year? Do you? Yeah. It's like, what's the cool, but it's fun though? Well, I didn't, in Banport, I didn't. In Banport, I was like, well, I've, you know,

everyone pretty much knows now, because I send that letter out. But most of you know, now, I thought, but I thought if I just don't even mention, mention it. And I thought that'll be better if I don't mention it because even if the people the audience don't know, there's this thing of like they'll feel proud of themselves that they didn't make a big deal out of it. They'll be kind of like going, oh, he just mentioned he's got a boyfriend and he's a man as well. I'm fine with that. Because if there's one thing, French audiences love is how accepting they are.

So I thought, fuck it, I'll play on that. because I even Oh, the last show Fuddn up Did I come out as gay? I just did at the very top But then I've already thought of like I just did the

What's it called? New material game the other night I just said I came out a different way And it's usually just kind of saying To the audience going I'm gay In case you didn't know

And then just kind of moving on With a bit Because sometimes It's fucking odd man Sometimes I'll say You know Talk about my ex-boyfriend And then people in the audience

are like, does he realise he's gay? Should he tell him? It's the weirdest thing, isn't it? That relationship we have to a crowd, like, the slightest thing, like not having mentioned it, it's almost like you're on stage and you fly's undone.

Do you what I mean? There's like, there's something whereby, like, unless everyone is absolutely on the same page, they can't cope with it. Aye. And it's, I'm like, some people even say to my after was to go

were you pretending to be to be gay or like were you and I'm like well that's always the bad gigs as well it's never like the good gigs like there's always the bad gigs

and you think oh man fuck it I mean I must not have looked confident on stage if I'm barely I'm not even able to say that I'm gay without looking a bit like but not really

you know what I mean well I suppose we are also as audiences we're indoctrinated into, like I said, a certain idea of what a gay person looks like. Like, I guess that I wonder, if you take any individual person from one of your audiences, I wonder how many gay people they know

who aren't camp, who aren't vis or visibly gay in some other more usual kind of way. Yeah, but then at the same time, it's an annoying kind of, um, what do you call it? Like, I, it's an annoying balance because the gay people give me shit sometimes for, like, not, because they think I'm, uh, and got internalized homophobia. No. And I'm like, yeah, but I'm like, I don't.

Like, I have hated myself before being gay, but I definitely don't now. It's my career. Yeah. But, but I definitely don't. But then, but then it's the thing of them. But I'm like, you're mis-screw, what do you call? Misconstruing. Misconstruing.

Self-deprecation for self-hating. And me not acting as if, like, I'm loud and proud. Like, I'm just acting like, I'm a fucking, well, I just act like a goon on stage anyway. Yeah. But, like, me taking the piss out of myself, for some reason, gets misconstruinged as, oh, he hates the fact that he's gay. I'm like, of all the reasons I hate myself, gay is not one of them. potential show title that's really

that is fascinating because there are like that's one of those things that would not have occurred to me at all like when you say fringe audiences love that they're accepting I completely get that

but I would not have made that observation myself do you know what I mean like I like I can of course so smarmy kind of we're at a fringe do you mean and listen

I don't really slag or fringe audiences I rely on them and love them too bad but exactly I think of like okay I'm really going to go out there on a whim

But I think racism is wrong. But when it comes to, like, do you think that there are older gay comics who are perpetuating a particular version of gayness? Is that ever a problem for you? I can think of one older gay comic who I was with some gay friends of mine in their 30s, and they were a bit like rolling their eyes at me slightly, like, oh, are we still doing this? Like that guy's letting the side down by being Mega Camp.

Do you know what I mean? Does that, where are you on that? No, like when it comes to the Mega Camp kind of older comics, I don't know if it's like, I don't think it's perpetuating the stereotype or whatever. I think that's half the thing of like we all come in different sizes and that. It's like, well, it's like Gremlins too. That's a fabulous. Yeah, yeah.

Because you're all monstrosities. Let's make that clear. Yeah, yeah. We all came from something very beautiful. But no, the thing I really, it's not actually the, because the older gays, the ones that do are stereotypical.

I don't think it's actually have a bad effect anyway because they're actually very loved now by the public because, like, if you think of like Graham Norton and Julian Clary and stuff, they're really loved by the public. because I don't think UK people hate camp comedy, if anything, it's much, it's quite a UK thing. Yeah. And it's actually made the comedians more, it made gay people kind of more lovable as well

because it's like, wow, they're actually, you know, because one of the stereotypes of gay men is that they are, you know, great fun to be around. Women love them because they're always at a party having good fun and stuff like that. It's difficult to hate a community when their stereotype is, oh, those fucking gays are always so much fun. Yeah, yeah, sure. But then the thing that I get annoyed at nowadays is like, although there is kind of social justice stuff that needs to be done, is when some of the gay community get offended at stuff

that isn't actually something that's worth your time to get offended. It's like that thing of if you, you know, if you pick on like every single thing that people ever do, like comedian-wise, I'm like, I'm not trying to start hate with anybody. I'm not trying to bully anyone. I've only, I'm going to take the piss out of myself. But I always kind of think, like, we're getting a stereotype now. And there's always a difficult thing of with a minority of people,

you can't get stereotyped easily as soon as enough of them start doing it. I'm like, we're going to get the stereotype that we don't have a sense of humor. And that's the worst stereotype you can ever have. Like, that stereotype is so bad. That's when we gave Germany as punishment for the war. Is that a bit? You're trying a bit. No, no.

It's a good. It's a good bit. Okay, cool. I'm right that I do it Yeah I see what I mean It's an annoying thing Because I'm like

I'm like yeah There's sometimes that you think Yeah you shouldn't joke about that kind of thing But then Other times I'm like Oh but I mean that's always the fucking grey area Like half the people that That do that stuff

Don't go to comedy anyway Because they won't enjoy comedy Because they'll get annoyed At effort than the comedian's going to say And most of them fucking hate me anyway But I'm about like Stop doing it so much Because you're going to get all the gays

into trouble. We love our fun stereotype. We might not all be fun, but it's a nice stereotype to have. Yeah, it's certainly a more fun stereotype than, I mean, that's how I feel about when comics are kind of painted as woke. Like, I don't think,

I don't think any sensible human being would say, I am woke and mean it as anything other than a joke. And it's just like you kind of create a term meaning, I'm kind and I'm trying to be aware of the world. I mean. And then it ends up just getting turned into a weapon to attack you with.

And it's like, isn't that supposed to be the other way around? Shouldn't we be, you know, anyone who is feeling put upon be using the language of the oppressor, rather than coming up with a term, painting yourself with it, and then the oppressor goes, great, I'll have that. It just seems, it feels they're all going round. I know, I don't like who, I really don't like who politicised all the, what do you call it, comedy is.

And it's like you have to get involved in it. because the, like, I think people, like, assume that I'm like a fucking socialist and all that kind of stuff, just because I'm mates with a lot of, like, and I'm like, I'm left centre, but for some reason I get shit for being left centre and I'm just like, you know, I'm not like,

it was a call, I'm not hugely into the politics, stuff, I don't really want to talk about it at all on stage, but I'm like, no, it's your duty to talk about this kind of stuff. I think as well, I didn't even realise I was making a fucking statement by like being non-camp on stage. This is quite, I mean, for Glasgow, this is just gay.

I mean, in Glasgow, I'm the campus guy. Yeah. Wow. Paradigm shift in my head, right? Okay, yeah, God, it was fine. But I've never, like, what's it called? I never thought I was doing anything specifically of, like, oh, I'm going to, like, show the world that, like, you know, all gay guys are the same.

But then it just so happened. I started, like, looking at, like, my reviews, and I was like, oh, oh yeah, apparently there's a thing. Yeah, apparently a little voice of a generation. No. So yeah, but then I think that can fuck with my head a wee bit as well because I don't, I hate the feeling that I'm representing a community

because I'm like, because if you represent like more than just yourself, then you can let more people, you can let people down. And I'm like, if I just keep acting like myself and not think about it too much. I'm not going to be a cunt. I'll just kind of think, well, I'll just, you know, I don't have, don't think too much about what, like, what I'm representing or anything like that, because otherwise you just kind of, oh, so you get a fucking, I mean, I've, uh, there's comedians that have an ego and a half. I think there's a low status comedians and the high status comedians and I'm definitely low status. The fact that the, the fact that, as I said before, the audience members message me to give me ideas for bits. I think that shows how low a fucking state is. Let's talk about shame and shamelessness. Because like some of your stuff, like you've alluded to that excess skin bit earlier on, some of your stuff's very graphic.

Some of your stuff is, and even stuff that isn't necessarily graphic, like you talk about your parents on stage, you take the piss out of your parents. So let's, like, that's something that I will do, but I'll be very cagey about doing that because I don't want to upset my mum. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's like a certain amount of that. whereas you feel very, that's a really refreshing element of the stuff that you do.

You feel very free, you know? Like it feels like one of the, one of the gleeful things as an audience member watching you is kind of going, oh, fucking Larry can just say what he wants. You know what I mean? Like you've just, you've found where you fit in the world and you're like, I could just say whatever about whoever and whatever. Do you know what I mean? It's based for someone to say that about me and it's not a kind of Brexitey kind of thing.

Oh, he just says it, Mike. He just says how it is. but I'm used to you. Yeah, well, my mum doesn't mind, my dad doesn't mind, none of them mind as long as I don't like actually name who they are. So I can take the piss out of any of them. And I think it puts people off dating me though because then they think, oh, if I do,

and I had a guy I went out with who made me promise I wasn't going to do material on him. And I ended up doing material on him because he said to me that he broke up with me because he said I was controlling. And I'm like, you told me, what I can and cannot say on stage, that's controlling behaviour. Don't give me your fucking...

I don't know if that argument holds water logically. You know what? It's a belter of a bit, so that's... Well, logic has never stood in the way of a bit going down well. Totally, man.

Well, the audience comes first. Sorry, I'm doing my duty. I've got people to represent. Yeah. There are 60 million people, or 8 billion people plus two in this. relationship.

It's you, me and them. But then sex stuff, I don't even understand why it's offensive because there's such a weird like, is that a generational shift

of if you do a joke to an older audience about sex, they will be like that is offensive. You shouldn't talk about that stuff on stage. And then you do that

if you do a joke about like my major stereotyping old people here but say you do a joke that's like actually we don't even have to go with like race or homophobia but if I do a joke about homeless people to a room full of older people they will not get offended at that because they've got someone like it's less of a thing but I'm actually like if you actually look at it what's more offensive making fun of somebody that's sleeping rough or making fun of something that 95% of people do and I'm like I can't see the logic of it

And I've had quite a few chats with TV people going, why can I not just say that? It's not a big deal. No one's getting offended at it. It's like it's happening. Because if I take the piss out of somebody else, I'm definitely going to take the piss out of myself. And like, I mean, when I talked about that skin guy thing before,

I'd already actually lifted my top up in the gig and talked about every single bit of my torso that I fucking hate. Okay. So I'm kind of like, yeah, it's not bullying, but then it's such an odd kind of, obviously offensive, subjective, but I don't, I can't think of a good argument of why sex

or being graphic about sex is more offensive than making fun of somebody who you don't know who's actually had a difficult life. Yes, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that's a very cogent argument. I'm getting into that. Go on, go on, too. Argue back.

No, God. You got the wrong podcast, mate. what we like to deal with here on the Comedians Comedia podcast is Body Dismorphia. You've alluded to it in one joke that was like quite a tidy little parcel of a joke on a gala set.

And I was like, Oh, is actually talking about, do you actually talk about Body Dismorphin in this podcast a lot? No, no, no. The point I'm making is that we get into that. I'm much more likely to talk about things that are, you know, the interior landscape of one's mind

than try and pick an argument with my guest is my point. Oh, all right, okay, cool. One day. I'm going to fucking make Smiley nice, do you have an argument with me. You talked about body dysmorphia on a gala set that I saw,

and it was like for, it was that gag about the, like, seeing another person and then, you know, it's kind of like a, I'm not going to call it a cheap joke, but it's a bit of a, kind of a joke. But you referred to it,

and I remember thinking, is that, oh, right, now, like, that's a funny, it's a funny feedline, if it doesn't have a grade of truth in it, not that in that short set that I saw, you particularly went into detail on it. But just you talking about taking,

I've not seen you do that bit, but lifting your shirt and talking about all the bits of your chest that you hate. Can we talk about that? Yeah, yeah, that's cool. Funny enough, that joke, originally the reason why, I don't mind telling the joke, but the punchline is, like, when I look at my reflection,

I see a fat Chinese lady is basically, something like that. Sharing. Get out of my window or something. Yeah. Yeah. Stop looking through my window. Yeah, yeah. So, but then if a listener's wondering, it's on YouTube if you want to check it out. And I'm at Larry Dean Comedy. But then, yeah, I actually did that joke because I thought of a funny way.

I did the joke and I was like, oh, it works. But then the funniest bit about that joke was the end of the show. And I can definitely say it because it can never. actually be put out on air was Evelyn Mock, who is Swedish but she looks Chinese, would do the bucket for me. And I used to say to the audience at the end of the gig, I'll be like, I'll be holding the bucket at the back of the room. Oh my God. What a fucking gag. All right. But people will literally, people, because that's one thing I was trying to do in our show. I always try and make people

because I saw Nish Kumar a few years ago and the exit music was funny because it was to do with the show. I love making people leave the gig with another joke. But the problem is nobody found it funny because everyone's like thinking is it okay for me to laugh

in a woman's face because she is Chinese. Yeah, totally. But then I couldn't exactly go, hey, I'll be the back of the room but don't worry, it's okay to laugh. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Yeah, there's not enough. I don't know how the fuck you would caveat that. If I was your director or your dramaturg, I'd be going, I don't know, I think you've just got to do the joke and run away from the venue. Because I didn't get much money in the bucket because of that joke. Because I did a test of, am I going to get more money if she's holding the bucket

for making them laugh or more money for me holding the bucket? And then, or my mate holding the bucket. I didn't get much money in the market. Everyone didn't get much money in the bucket. a random fucking person, member of staff got more money in the bucket? No.

I know. Oh, this is a whole separate conversation. I'm obsessed with the economics of free fringe models. Yeah. No way. What was the original question? Or the body of this motherfucker.

Oh, yeah. So, yeah, yeah. So I know you've talked on, I know some of your set you've talked about having been a fat kid. Yeah. And I like I don't know much about you as a kid. Normally we do a bit of kind of set up

of like, what was your family life like and what have you in the podcast? We've gone straight into a lot of the material. So what was that, like, what's your relationship now to that kid? Oh man. I've like, I've started remembering stuff since lockdown. I'm like, I was absolutely bizarre. And then, but that I wasn't very happy.

I was like, I remember when I started putting on weight, it was so weird. Like I had a very weird way of logic-wise of thinking. because I've always been quite intense at thinking and that's my problem I ruminate so much but even as a kid I'd overthink everything so it's almost like

but then I'm always worried about not overthinking stuff because I think well if I don't overthink it then I'm not going to actually get it done or like my problem I won't be able to solve the problem but I remember as a kid not being happy and I heard the stereotype

that fat people are always happy and I thought I'm going to start eating so I started eating loads and loads really weird but then I lost loads away I lost loads of weight when I was in puberty for a year and then I put it on again

then I lost it again and then I started working in a pizza place that we got paid two pound an hour definitely illegal two pound an hour but we'd have to rely on tips but you got a free pizza

at the end of the night so I started eating pizzas and I was really fat until about 20 and then lost weight put it on again and then I've been skinny

now for a few years but I actually noticed I lost loads of weight I can't remember Oh yeah I got on these fucking like Diety pills I found on the internet I was actually looking at pictures of myself

It's weird when I look at a picture of myself That's taken today I'll hate it But if I look at a picture of myself Even a week ago I'd be like oh man I wish I still looked like I did a week ago Even though I hated that picture at the time Wow So I was taking these pills

thinking, oh, I'm going to lose weight, I'm going to lose weight. And then I've seen pics of myself going, fucking hell, man, I was way too skinny and I was still obsessed. Oh, God, I'll lose more weight, got to lose more weight. But then I noticed that I was, I'm afraid of putting on weight. Like, really afraid of it. But it's because, I think, in a compulsive, in a compulsive way.

Like, it's not just a sort of a, it's not a reasonable, rational kind of it would be more healthy to not be overweight. No, not at all. It's much more like a compulsive kind of a fear. Fucking hell, what amaze. I know. It's overfile. you know, but my mum's the same.

My mum's, but that's where I get it from, my mum's exactly the same. She's terrified of putting on weight. And some of the the fat jokes I make about myself are ones that my mum's just said to me and I've gone, fair play to you mum, that's a fucking belter of a joke that you've done there.

What, the idea, like the central, the core of that or the genesis of that is you as a kid being unhappy. Do you have a sense of why you were unhappy? Was it because you were ruminative because you were worried about the world? Um, not it's because, well, but I got an apology for it, right? So there's no, like, grudge whatsoever.

But my brother bullied me a lot, but then, my big brother bullied me a lot, but then my mum and dad never believed me. So then there was no, there was no, it was always like, oh yeah, whatever, just sought out between yourself. So then it was that thing of feeling shit about myself, but then not being able to think, oh, someone's going to sort out for me. So there was no kind of place of trust. you know what I mean

there was no like that's my safe zone so that was kind of the main reason why I wasn't particularly happy oh fuck sorry my mum no not at all but my mum said to me

like a few years ago she goes god I didn't because my brother started annoying her and she went I didn't realize

how fucking annoying him so you know that you've had to do with it's fine so you got an apology from your parents for not having dealt with it and did you get an apology from your brother for having bullied you. But there's a weird one on my brother

because I'm even thinking, did I mess up my memory? Because I remember saying to my brother about I said, oh yeah, because I did a lot of stuff about him in my show two years ago. And I said, I phoned him before. I said, just so you know, I'm doing material about you as a kid. But like, I say about how we get on well now, but I just don't want you ever reading a review

thinking I'm bitching about you or anything like that. I'm just talking about what it was like growing up. up with you. So there's no hard feelings. And he was like, what do you mean? Like me being horrible to you as a kid. I was like, you were fucking awful. And he goes, are you joking? I was the only one that believed in you. I was the one that was standing up for you against mum and dad. And I was like, what duff? So I got no memory of it at all now, man. I'm just like, I don't know if that's the case or the other case. But then, yeah. But then so yeah, yeah, the weight loss thing, a lot of it comes down to just kind of trying, making an effort to feel good about myself.

but it's the opposite of how I was doing it as a kid. If that makes sense. That is a tangled web, my friend. Holy shit. Have you been in therapy? Have you spoken to someone about that kind of stuff, the dysmorphia stuff? Yeah, a wee bit.

I don't know if there's other shit. I'm trying to sort of like first. Okay. But then the body dysmorphia, I'm kind of like, I'm getting over it a bit, but then there's a thing that people do when they've got body dysmorphia in which they'll constantly,

And I do it all the time and at least I'm catching myself doing it is you start you start holding, pressing your chest or like, basically you know the bits of your torso that you can feel bone? Yeah.

Like that's, you constantly like touch that just to kind of go, oh, I can still feel my ribs, that means I'm not fat. Okay, or I can feel my hip that means I'm not fat.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, geez. Oh, mate. Okay. Well, I don't know, I'm not one of these, it's, I was talking to my pal, about this the other day.

Whenever I post any of this fucking stuff on social media or whatever like a story about like a story that I now laugh at but then people go, oh God that's so bad oh my God, are you okay? I'm like, do you honestly think I would ever talk about stuff that's, that's

I find upsetting unless it was with our therapist? You know what I mean? I always say stuff out loud if I'm okay to talk about it or if I'm happy as it is. Yes, I suppose. Yeah. I mean, I do. I understand that, but I think, I suppose we are conditioned by the way some people behave on social media. Like, you're going to be, you're going to expect a few you okay, hans.

Do you know what I mean? If you're going to put stuff out there. I can't understand that shit, man. When people do that to me, I'm like, oh, fucking, I don't want your sympathy. I want your bum. So in terms of how it impacts your creativity, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, much like I think we all know comics who are kind of striving for success in order to resolve personal demons and then we know people who like other people talk about that good oh fuck all the time constantly I mean some comics are like oh I do know I'm just doing this for a laugh but they are relatively few and far between like where are you on that scale like you're obviously

very driven you're very hard working you you excel do you mean I have at my head that when like when I would get to the point of like like huge fame and success that's when all the people that have wronged me will be like jealous it's honest it's such a bitter fucking thing to say but that's honestly the thing and I think it's almost like

what do you call it it it's naive to think that people don't have these wee evil thoughts in their head we've all got like little demons that we go yeah and that well fucking that that guy bullied me as a kid well I tell you what wait to you fucking see this you know what I mean you have all those little things you're trying to get over

in your head but I the kind of thing I aim for is I had a weird thing right this is this is right basis after I did live with the Apollo that was the one thing I always wanted to do and I thought about like

what the fuck am I going to do now and I had no direction of what I was supposed to do. And I ended up working at the top secret comedy club behind the desk, up the stairs, getting people in. Yeah. For three nights for free, I just turned up and did it, try and almost reset my brain of like, what am I going to do now?

But then I now, basically the thing I've now aimed for is I really want to move to America at some point, and I kind of just want to have the way that Richard Pryor's or like Jim Carrey's career of like you maneuver into acting but you can still do stand up as well. Okay, that's good. Let's reset the goals. Apollo, bang, movies, great.

Yeah, but I'm like, I mean, because the thing is, it's an annoying thing about the UK and Australia's get it as well, of the crabs in a bucket thing. Yeah. And you kind of think, oh, are you? kind of given up now on like pretending I'm not I don't have all these like goals and stuff like that in my head because I'm like you know fuck I may as well just say it out loud as long as I

don't tell people my sneaky way of getting you know to the top of things then I'm all right that's going to be subscriber only content Larry explains his sneaky way of getting to the top of oh it's totally bad yeah yeah it's like there's a few times of um what do you call it I've done stuff very sneakily to um but not I've never pushed somebody under a bus to strive on, but I've figured out a way of like doing something and I've now got my next set of goals. I wanted to do that Jim Carrey thing of write myself a check for one million pounds by the time I'm 30 and I'm about like, oh, I'm after 35 then, something. So that was Larry. Larry is on tour right now, now, now, not back in 2020. He's on tour with

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