The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - A FAMILY ROAST | Drew Afualo ft. Krit | THE COMMENT SECTION EP 32

Episode Date: September 21, 2022

[video available on Spotify] Drew welcomes Krit to the show this week to discuss Samoan culture, getting roasted by your family, and so much more. Drew: https://linktr.ee/drewafualo Krit: https://www....instagram.com/whatwouldkritdo         https://twitter.com/whatwouldkritdo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 He was like, she has like the map to Treasure Island on her hand, which is a lame joke on top of that. Yeah. But I was like, this is called a Malu, which is a tattoo given to women of chiefly descent from someone. It's typically on the legs. And I was like, but racism is so funny. Right. And then tweet deleted email. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Hey, everyone. And welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me, Drew, your favorite. We all know blah, blah, blah, blah. Today, I'm very, very honored to introduce you all to my guests, and it's also my very first Sam one-one guest, the one-and-only crit. Woo! So excited. I was I supposed to join in?
Starting point is 00:00:44 I was a show? Me alone. Yeah, yeah. I'm so... I'm excited, too, yeah. My first Oos on the show. I mean, we're not Uso's, but still, Oos. You know, U-S...
Starting point is 00:00:57 that's so close to U-S-y, like in time of it's always like, oh, wait, wait, wait, But we're Simon, so it's all right. That's okay. We can say that. Right. You know what's funny? One time on my TikTok, I said, um,
Starting point is 00:01:08 sometimes I got to drag the Uso's, right, to be funny. And then someone goes, did she say Uso's like the WWE wrestlers? Amal, that stands for brothers, babe.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Translate it. Right. They actually named after that Simon word. They're brothers and they're called the brothers. That's, that's the joke. But I'm so excited to have you. I've been a fan of you for a long time.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I appreciate that. I don't know why, but you know what? But I appreciate it. Honestly, crit is so cool on like Twitter and Instagram especially. Twitter's where I found you initially. But I saw you talking about someone people, someone language. And you were also talking about some of the issues that we have in our culture, which I not only agree with you on, but I felt I found very refreshing because it's like thought-provoking. And they're important conversations to have about our culture. so I thought that was really cool.
Starting point is 00:02:02 So I actually showed you to my sister. I was like, look how cool this guy is. And I followed you on Twitter. Oh, well, I appreciate it. I mean, you know, I mean, I've just come to learn of your work recently as you've grown up. And I've been enjoying everything that you've been putting out there. And I love the fact that, you know, you have this podcast and you're amplifying, you know, other people from communities that don't necessarily have their voices, you know, out there. So, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:02:28 we talk about, we've talked about it a lot like prior to this, but like representation is so important. That's like the one thing whenever I do like any sort of interview or anything like that. It makes me emotional. Like when I spoke with Coconut, like that was like the first time I've ever cried in an interview. I was like, don't tell the man it'll ruin my street. But like that was the first time I got emotional because I was talking about representation and like how when I was growing up, I didn't have someone women to look at in mainstream media. Because I feel like more often times than not, like when people think of someone people, a lot of times think of athletes.
Starting point is 00:03:04 More than anything, they're like, W.W.E. athletes. Right. Pretty much it. Right. That's where it starts and stops. So I, as someone who's been able to be like more like mainstream, not known for like playing a sport or something. Right. I think that's really cool.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Yeah. That's the same thing with you. And you've been in media for a long time too. So I'm sure you've seen countless times representation like how there's not very much for us. Yeah. I mean, it's different in New Zealand, well, you know, because I grew up in Altauro, so I feel like in the US, you don't get to have that same exposure, right? Yeah, that's true. Yeah. So it's probably, was it like a culture shock for you when you saw, like, just kind of the differences as far as like representation for us specifically in media,
Starting point is 00:03:48 like whether it's TV, movies, music, that kind of stuff? Yeah, I think it was, I think the, it's funny because you come here and you see a lot of someone and, you know, Well, depending what state you're in, right? Yeah. Yeah. But then at the same time, you don't see that, you don't have that, I guess, the same depth represented in media. Whether it's mainstream media or just, you know, you don't even get to see specifically Pacific Islander media here either, right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so that was kind of a shock.
Starting point is 00:04:20 But at the same time, it's refreshing when you do see someone like yourself, you know, pop up and it's like, oh, you know what? Like, things are changing, you know? Yeah. I think it's a sign of, I guess, our population growing too, I think, and just, and then I think, you know, not just that, you know, you do stand out. You know, I think what you've got to say has, you know, resonates with so many people. And I just think it's timely with this generation of, you know, what we've got going on. Yeah, because it's, I think I've talked about this multiple times too, like here on my show and then also, like, in other interviews or when people. people talk to me about, like, how I came to be this way.
Starting point is 00:04:59 And I talk about how, like, Samoan culture is very matriarchal. So we do hold women in very high regard, obviously. And then, like, the gender roles within Samoan culture, like, men cook and clean. Yep. Two, right? Well, I don't know my dad did, but, yeah, but they do, yeah, right. But they do typically, yeah. So, like, for me, it was, like, the way American culture sees women was much different than how I was raised.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Right. So like what we're raised around, like how we see older people in general, like how we see women is a lot different as far as like traditionally, right? So with my content, it really falls in line with how I was raised because it was much different than what I think the average American person experiences. And I don't know if your experiences were the same in New Zealand because obviously we're raised in New Zealand. No, for sure. like my mom and her sisters and all their relationships, they wore the pants. I mean, I don't know if that's what you're trying to say.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Yeah, that is what I'm saying. Yeah, like they're like, I always say like they're like the son of our families. So we orbit around them. Yeah. Whatever they're doing, whatever they want to do, whatever they need. That's what we're doing and what we need to provide for them. As children of like mothers and also like sisters and cousins and all of that because our families are very big.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah. No, they are. No, my mom comes from a family of eight. and my dad comes from my family online, and I've just got like a million cousins. But I've always, I think because of my mom's personality and her sisters, they have such strong personalities.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah. I've always, and because they took great care of me too, I've always preferred the energy of women in my life. Yeah. Like my best friend, like my, uh, as far as,
Starting point is 00:06:41 um, like even when it comes down to a therapist, like I'm not messing with a man. Like I need a woman to, you know, a woman's energy. Yeah, I've always preferred that.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah. That's how my little brother is. Yeah. He, like, prefers the feminine energy. Yeah. It's just a lot. It's different. It's a different vibe.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And I think there's power in that knowing that you like that. And also knowing that it doesn't make you less of a man, whatever people want to say about that. Right. Because sometimes they'll cheapen it to, like, like, calling you, like, I don't know, a soy boy. Yeah. Whatever all the fancy terms are now for someone who cares about women. Like, it's just, it's someone who respects women and they're like, God, what a loser. But that's so dumb because, like, that's.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I mean, there's so much power in their energy, right? Yeah. And I just feel like you're cutting yourself off from that power. That energy. And that's like a, we're a very spiritual, like, culture as well too. So as far as like ancestors and people who have passed and all of that, like the energy is something we believe in deeply. So I totally know what you mean about feminine energy.
Starting point is 00:07:47 I feel that so deep. Even though I myself identify as a woman. But I think too, like when it comes to my content specifically, I did an interview with a Samoan reporter for the Samoan observer. And we spoke for a long time and she was so wonderful. And she said something about your content that has like drawn me to it is like the fact that it's been able to transcend culture. But at the very center of it, it's Samoan humor. So like aside from my laugh, because my laugh is not specific to me. Like lots of Polynesian people laugh like me.
Starting point is 00:08:23 It's not even just someone people, but it's like Polynesian people in general, they cackle like I do. That's just kind of our thing. But she was saying at the very center of your humor, it's very someone. Like the way that you make fun of people, the things that you laugh at, like the way that you know how to take a joke, that's all very somewhat. So she was saying she loves seeing other people join in on the fun that are not someone because they're kind of like experiencing a piece of our culture without. like, you know, fully understanding it, obviously. But I was like, that's pretty cool. I was like, that is true.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Because sometimes people are like, how do you, how do you like, you know, deal with hate or whatever? And I always say, like, the way I grew up, like, no one can hurt my feeling. Right. They're being heard so bad. Like, right. Like, after you grow up in a someone family, like, who's going to touch you after that? It's literally like, I've said before.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I'm like, if you're a someone person, you get it. Yeah. Like, the way that, the way that no one. can hurt your feelings. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, the way I'm built, I'm built different. Like, the way my mom raised me built different. Like, the things my family has said to me when I was growing up, even if they were,
Starting point is 00:09:32 they were so, like, small and stupid. But, like, the way they just absolutely changed my perspective on how I see myself. Because I was like, my mom would tell me all the time, she's like, you got to learn to take a joke. Yeah. But she would do that, like, someone should be like, nobody joke with Drew. She can't take a joke. I guess someone can't take a joke.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Yeah. And everyone's roasting the absolute shit out of me. And I'm like, oh, like, I'd like be in despair. I used to not be able to take a joke. And so my mom would tell me, like, if you don't learn how to do that, like no one's going to want to be your friend or joke around with you. And I was like, damn, really? I guess I got to start learning the laugh at myself.
Starting point is 00:10:08 But I think it's very someone. So I was talking to my mom, you know, when we were talking about when I think of someone humor. Yeah. And then she started breaking down, like, the nicknames that my grandma, gave her and her sisters. Yeah. So my auntiana,
Starting point is 00:10:24 her nickname was Weissar Sapa. Yeah. Which means crooked feet because she had corns. Like, why would you call a child crooked feet? You know, like,
Starting point is 00:10:36 like that, yeah, because she had corns. It's like, my grandma was vicious. The way they're just like, why, what? What's wrong? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Why is that bad? Why are you crying? And then, yeah, they're like, why are you crying? Right. And you're like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Crooked feet. Like, okay. Yo. That's so funny. My auntie Naila, her nickname was Isupapa, flat nose. Like, damn. Like, why, like, how is that? This is why we need therapy.
Starting point is 00:11:04 These are things that, you know. Yeah. And it's so, like, what? Like, it's so casual. And then if you get upset, then you're being disrespectful. Yeah, yeah. And you can't do that. So you got to just take it.
Starting point is 00:11:16 That's what I'm saying. I said, like, you guys don't get it. Yeah. You're too sensitive. Yeah, you wouldn't last a day in my family. That's why, like, let alone with other cousins, aunties and uncles, like, just the way that you show one sign of weakness and they all start ripping on you immediately. Immediately. I, like, the way I grew up is so, I'm, like, thankful for it now because now, because of what it is I do now, it's like, I need it.
Starting point is 00:11:44 You know what I mean? That armor. There's the training ground. Yeah. You gotta get your reps in. That's how you get good. That's how you get tough. But the way I like make fun of people,
Starting point is 00:11:55 like the things that we laugh at the things that we find funny is like it's so specific to someone people like the way that the things that we find funny. It's like it's silly most of the time. Yeah. So that's why I'm like some of the things I say, they're literally so silly. Like they don't mean anything. Like it's just the silliest shit in the world. And they fold immediately.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Yeah, yeah. The way they crumble almost in. Instantly, bizarre. Yeah. I can't believe it. And someone, people know how to make fun of someone. No. I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:12:25 So what are your experiences with being roasted or roasting? Cousins, friends, family. Yeah, so, I mean, I mentioned my grandma and how she named, like, you know, my mom and her sisters and that. So she had names for me too. Makaboovi, which is big eyes. That was a popular one, which is like, translates to cow eyes, but it's like, you know, your eyes are as big as a cow so that was a big one yeah that's a read yeah that's a drag and then
Starting point is 00:12:52 bumper lips there was another one my lips so my lips aren't as bumper as they used to be but as a child there was another one um cow eyes cow eyes yeah eyes is big as a cow the way that's so mean right like you just have like giant vacant eyes do they look like remind me of a cow so that was that one still like that still goes today i'm like wow it's careful it's care married into your adulthood. Yeah. Yeah. And then, well, this isn't me, but my cousin, Sarania, she, she had, and this isn't fun.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I'm not trying to make fun of her, but she has bad, she used to have bad eczema. And so they used to call her Lafa, which is like rash. Like, and she, and as a baby. Lafa is also ringware. Right. Exactly. So it's like, so you mean to tell me, like my cousin used to respond to Lafa as a, like, it would be like, Lafa and, you know, she'd be like, like, that's her name.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Like, that's how. That's some on humor. Like one, why do so many of us have skin problems? I think that's... Oh, yeah. I think it's the air. The dry skin? Yeah, yeah, because like a lot of times my, if my family members, like, had that kind of issue with skin,
Starting point is 00:14:01 if they moved to, like, Hawaii where it's like super moist and everything, it would go away. So it's the air. So we all got to move to... There you go. It's the diaspora. That's why you have that man. It's colonization. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Damn. Well, it's the displacement. I just found out we have something else. common we both have relatives with bad skin who get who get made fun of them for the bad scum we make fun of them yep we both have that that's so
Starting point is 00:14:27 Laugh is so much worse that's so funny because or like we would make there was someone else in my family I will not say who it was but like they would joke all the time
Starting point is 00:14:41 because their hair was so like big and thick and they would joke all the time saying that They had uku's, so they would say, like, calling like, uku, and I'm like, that's lice. Ucuz is lice. And I was like, that's messed up. If your hair was all messy, they'd be like, oh, she probably has ucus, that's probably why. What a mean thing to say?
Starting point is 00:15:02 You see, you hear that, and then people are like, I can't believe that it doesn't bother you when white 15-year-old men call you fat. Right. No, doesn't even compare. Yeah, yeah. It pales in comparison. Then. Like, especially you, you, again, you've had the training grounds, like, as a child. Like, what, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:15:21 And then you, like, learn to laugh at yourself, even if it's, like, that's because of something like that. But I also have big eyes. So your grandma would also probably call me cow eyes. You guys are like. I got giant eyes too. I think they're just, like, the lashes. That's what they are.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Sometimes people are like, why do you get so many lashes? I'm like, I got a lot of real estate. You know what I mean? They're bugging out of my head. Like, when I don't have them, they look even bigger. Yeah. It's crazy to think. But that's such a Samoan trait.
Starting point is 00:15:48 That's why, like, I ripped up, I ripped up a Samoan dude once. And I was talking about his eyes for like 10 minutes. I was like, jeepers, creepers. Where did you get them peepers, babe? Yeah, yeah. Can you see in the dark with those things? Because it's so big. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:03 But that's like, when I made fun of him, he left. Yeah. Even though he was being the worst, he was like, he left. So I'm like, because they know, they know how to take a joke. Exactly. They get it. They are like, yeah, that's fair. Well, I mean, you got to.
Starting point is 00:16:14 pay respect. Like, if you could get one on him, and then it's like, well, you know what? I think that all the time, too. I'm like, well, you know, like, you got are real, recognized real. Game, recognized game. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:25 Like, you made fun of someone. I made fun of you. Yeah, yeah. The whites don't take too kindly to that. Well, especially not from, you know, from a someone person. Exactly. Yeah, from a brown person.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I think that too, like, especially when, um, sometimes, like, one time I posted, I forget what they, there were like glam pictures of some kind, but you could see my tattoo in them. And this guy tried to make a joke And he was like, she has like the map to Treasure Island on her hand, which is a lame joke on top of that.
Starting point is 00:16:54 But I was like, this is called a Malu, which is a tattoo given to women of chiefly descent from someone. It's typically on the legs. And I was like, but racism is so funny. And then tweet deleted immediately. Yeah, yeah. Like, account privated immediately. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:11 That's also, sometimes when men try to be racist towards me, they don't even pick the right race. So I always think you're not even close. Like you got to pick the right one. If you're going to be racist, like, yeah. And then if you do find out that I'm someone, what are you going to say? Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:29 You're athletic? Like they don't know anything. They don't know enough about us to even like target us like that. So it's even crazier to me that they're like, they're trying to say anything and everything to like get to me. Yeah. And I don't know if you've received hate too on your platforms, whether it was from like non-Polnesian people or or Polynesian people like I don't know if you've ever experienced that no I definitely have yeah so I mean from both right whether it's you know whether
Starting point is 00:17:55 I'm talking about you know some of the programming that we have you know within the community whether it's around religion or you know issues that around homophobia or things like that and then you know people people come at you and it's like it's but But it's kind of necessary, right? Yeah, to have the conversation. Yeah, just to spark it, get it going. Yeah. Because that first step is awareness.
Starting point is 00:18:22 And you just hope that whoever's out there will learn something. Yeah. Or people who might be going through something can see that, oh, you know what? There are people who actually stand for this or whatever. Yeah, absolutely. And then it's more powerful, too, when you're a someone person and maybe you also feel the same way. And then you see a Samoan person talking about it and bringing awareness to it and kind of like trying to like have the conversation about it. Because that's why like when I have talked about Samo and men before like have I have made fun of them or whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:57 It's because of misogyny and that's that's prevalent in our culture as well. Right. Even though it's matriarchal, there's still like misogyny in there as well. But that's like that's a white supremacy thing. That's colonization. That's literally, it's so much deeper. rooted than just like, you know what I mean? They just hate women. It's like it's
Starting point is 00:19:16 so much deeper than that. So having that conversation like I've literally talked about, I talked about a different guy once and I said to like, I was telling him in someone, I was basically saying to him like do your does your mom know that you say these things?
Starting point is 00:19:32 Has she seen these videos? Have you shown them to her? Probably not. I doubt it. I f***ed that you've said any of this to her face. I doubt it. So I bring that up all the time because again, we are matriarchal. So they do a lot of times, especially someone men are very close to their moms. So like their moms, their sisters, whatever, would you say this to them?
Starting point is 00:19:55 Right. Would you want another man to say this to them? So that's like something it's important to talk about because it is there, right? So like bringing awareness to it doesn't mean that you're like shitting all over your own people. It just means that you recognize an issue and that you think it's important we talk about it. So I think that's what your whole platform is. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:12 But, you know, sometimes, but it's easy to get petty sometimes. Yeah. And then it's like, okay, Christian, is this about you or is this about, oh, excuse me. Yeah. Is this about you or is this about the bigger picture? And then that's when it's like, okay, like. Yeah, especially when it's coming from your own people too. Like, it's easy to kind of fall prey to that because you're like,
Starting point is 00:20:29 this is something that you and I will benefit from if we exercise out. Yeah. Right? If we get rid of it, if we diagnose it and then work on learning it, it'll help both of us in the long run. Yeah. Right, so, but it is hard. It gets hard, especially. 50, 50, if my zippers up or down anymore.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Take my pants off at home, they come off easy. I'm like, I, that was four hours I was walking around. Netflix is a joke presents. Nate Bargatsy, Big Dumb Eyes World Tour, a special live taping at Into a Dome. I think it's because I'm peeing so much longer. I watch young people come and go. I'm like, tell my family I'm okay.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Nate Bargatsy, May 9th and 10. Live at Into a Dome. Get tickets at Dune. Netflix is a joke fest.com. Like, I've never really had too many negative interactions with other Polynesian people. Typically, like, if I do, they're men. If I do, it's always men. But they'll say crazy things.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Like, even when I was an API Trailblazer for TikTok. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Congrats on that, by the way. Thank you. Just me and one other someone girl. The two of us. There's not many of us. None of us.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Yeah. So with that, I had some someone dudes be like, oh, she's like, she makes me ashamed to be someone or to be a Pacific I don't know. I'm like, I'm what makes you ashamed. Right. You must not have been very proud in the first place if that was the case. You must not tell very many people that you're someone. But I was thinking like, you're a liar. Yeah. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I'm the reason why you feel bad. And that's why I said, like, I know, I know you don't talk to your mom that way. Right. There's no way. Yeah. You know, so especially if you are actually someone or not just a fucking liar. Yeah. But speaking of, right, getting roasted, your poor cousin, Lafa.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Oh, Lafah. Soranya. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Like, if you're watching this, I just put your business on the street. Honestly, I feel it. I feel it. I feel it. Like, we've all been there, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:22:35 But speaking of, I want to talk about it with you because there's no one better to talk about it with you is like, our topic for today is, like, our topic for today is, talking about our Samoa and humor, but basically how we got so good at roasting. And it's just like, I feel like it's an art form we've perfected. Right. As Polynesians in general,
Starting point is 00:22:52 Polynesians in general can make fun of anybody. But like the way that we've like meticulously put it down to things, that's what I'm saying, a skin condition. Like the way that we've like tailored it specifically to the person, it's an art. I think it's an art form. So here on the comment section,
Starting point is 00:23:10 what we like to do is we bring videos that I was tagged in, and we bring them here that are applicable to our topic. And then we just talk about it, laugh, make jokes, all that fun stuff. Yep. So this first one that we have is basically a video of a Samoan man saying that non-Sahman or Polynesian people blindly getting Samoan-Polynesian tattoos is an example of cultural appropriation. And obviously, they were getting lit up in the comments.
Starting point is 00:23:35 And I'd love to know your thoughts on that, just in general. Yeah. Yeah. around non-simon's getting, listen, so you know, in L.A. in Hollywood, you go to the gym, I guarantee you at least once a week,
Starting point is 00:23:48 you're going to find a white man wearing with a Sarmine sleeve. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I remember, I remember I was like, you know what, I'm going to go and talk to them, you know, engage in conversation. So I'll go up to them and I'll be like, hey, I'd really love to know what made you get this,
Starting point is 00:24:05 where you found out about it, where you found this design, and what made you get it. and I'll take a photo of them. And one guy was just like, I just got it because I thought it looked hot. I was just like, hot?
Starting point is 00:24:16 Not hot. On you? And I was like, first of all, you are not hot. That's the first thing. Right. You're missing one half of that. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Like, what's going on? Yeah. And then another one, the other, okay, so I posted these online too, right? Yeah. And then the second guy, he was like,
Starting point is 00:24:36 he was just like, oh, you know, I spent a lot of, he was French, and he was like, I spent a lot of time in Tahiti or whatever, and this was a tribute, and I was like, okay, whatever. Does Samoan tribal?
Starting point is 00:24:45 Yes. And I was like, okay, no, Samo, but he was in Tahiti. But anyway, he, um, so I posted him on, but see, the second guy, he was more conventionally attractive, right? So all the Samo's were like, well, no to the first one, but the second one, you know, he could keep it. It was like, yo, right. No, no.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I just think, like, of all the things you could get. Right. Get something else. Exactly. You know what I mean? Like, of all the things. Of all the things. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:12 And you have your own culture. Like, why not honor that? Yeah. Yeah. I think that too, because I know sometimes people are like, well, it's just like, it's art. It's expression. Okay, so express something else.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Right. Why do you have to express what means a lot to me? Right. Why can't you express what means a lot to you? Because a lot of times it isn't just about expression. It's not about, it's not about expression solely. It's literally, it's like, it goes no deeper than that. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:39 It's so super. official. The understanding of it is I liked it. So I put it on me. Yeah. Okay, well, you could tattoo a cat on yourself. Why don't you do that? You know what I mean? You could literally, you could literally write ass on yourself. Yeah, yeah. And like, that's a form of expression. So, but you chose to use something that means a lot to someone else. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:57 Right. And I, like, for me, I can smell it from a mile away. If you're a Polynesian, if you're someone, especially if you're someone, I know. I could tell. Even just by looking at you, I can sniff it off of you. So sometimes I've had people be like, oh, I'm someone too. And I'm like, are you? Yeah. Because they don't look at, which is not an indicator at all, but I can just tell. And then you ask, like, if you're someone, if you're a Polynesian at all, and you tell people that you are, the first thing they ask you is what's your last name?
Starting point is 00:26:25 Yep. And where are your parents from? And if you don't know the answers to those questions, are you? It's like, yeah. And it's like, okay, maybe you are. But if that's the case, study up. Yeah. I mean, or spend more time with other someone people.
Starting point is 00:26:39 You know what I mean? Yeah, that's one thing. You know, whatever reason you might not know the culture and stuff, but if you're going to start claiming this and that, like, there's no the issues that are going on in the community. Exactly. You know, like, you got to know something. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:53 You got to know not just the good, but also the bad. Like, you have to understand. That's why I think, too, it's like, it's one of those things with tattoos, especially. They mean a lot to a lot of us. Like, that's our culture. It means a lot to us. every tattoo typically is supposed to be your journey through life. That's what they're supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Right? So, like, especially if you have something sacred, like, a bea or, like, any sort of, like, Malu or anything, those are even more sacred. So, like, I don't know. If you don't live the experience, don't get it. Right. I agree. I think it's pretty, I think it's pretty, you said he was more conventionally attractive.
Starting point is 00:27:28 That's all. Yeah, I mean, I didn't think so, but a lot of people did. That's what the internet thought. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think making exceptions for people. is why it continues to be an issue. It's why it continues to be like, well, who cares, blah, blah, blah. Like, I mean, yeah, is it going to affect me?
Starting point is 00:27:43 Is it going to keep me up at night? No. But is it inappropriate? Yeah, I think that's fair to say. Yeah. You could say it's inappropriate. That's okay. And this day and age, like it's 22 now.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Yeah, yeah. Google, like, like, why is this still happening today? Yeah. Or Google the meaning behind them. Right. The tattoos themselves, like, why are people getting this? Like, what does it mean to them? them like what's the part of the culture like i also think too um if you're someone who's married to
Starting point is 00:28:12 someone who's polynesian sometimes i think they think that's a past yeah and it's not right i say i've said this on my platform before you are samoan adjacent you're not someone just because you had a little someone in you yeah yeah yeah yeah like that's because you have kids if you have kids and all that that's great wonderful teach your kids their culture that's wonderful right but like to start acting like you're the expert yeah yeah Or that you have a pass to do certain things. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:39 There's a way to appreciate culture and then there's a way to appropriate culture. I think the lines get blurred a lot. And it doesn't help when sometimes these tattoo artists, someone tattoo artists, I giving them out. Yeah. You know, it's just like, so we got to start. Yeah, yeah. We also play a role in it. So I was like, I get it if you're in your bag.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I understand to an extent. But sometimes, even sometimes like tattoo artists, like they'll literally be like, I mean, that's someone and I know you're not. Yeah, yeah. So, like, they'll express their disinterest in it. And if they're still like, I don't care, I want to get it. Sometimes they'll give it to them. Sometimes they won't.
Starting point is 00:29:14 You know what I mean? And they'll be like, I can't in good conscience do that. Right. And that's fair. Like, whatever makes you comfortable. I just think, like, you know your cultural appropriating. Don't try to call it anything else. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Like, don't try to call it appreciation. Don't tell them that you love the culture. Like, they don't want to hear that. Yeah. Nobody wants to hear that. Just literally just, I don't know. Stick to your own. Like get a butterfly.
Starting point is 00:29:33 I don't know. What are Europeans do? Yeah. I don't know. Tattoo tea on you or something. Tea and crumpets. I don't know. What do English people do?
Starting point is 00:29:43 What did colonize? Let's not guess I don't want English people do. As I said, what did the colonizers like when they came over? Tattoo that on you. Okay. Some of the comments on this, this one says, question, what if someone that's non-Polynesian that grew up with you asked for permission to get it? I mean, I think you know the answer. If you have to ask, I feel like you know the answer.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Right. Like just because you're one friend, you know, who's going to say yes to everything. That doesn't mean that person speaks for the whole culture. Yeah, exactly. I feel like if you have to ask, I think you know the answer. Right. Just don't. I feel like it's not hard to not do that.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Yeah, like err on the side of caution. Yeah. If it's questionable, just don't do it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Also, the way. that like you could make a sleeve like a tattoo because typically that's what they're talking about is like the sleeves right especially on men but like because they do look nice yeah they look great right they were created by us right so yeah i know we know how good they look but like the sleeves you can make a sleeve out of anything right you could literally make a sleeve out of anything you could you could put like superheroes on there you could do the ocean yeah yeah the MCU yeah all four phases you could add to that on you like you could make a sleeve out of literally anything at all. Flowers, sea animals, like anything. It doesn't have to be, why does it
Starting point is 00:31:07 have to be that? That's what I'm saying, you're making a conscious choice to be disrespectful. So then you can't get upset when people are like, that's disrespectful. Right. You know what I mean? So. And like, why not do the research before you get, you know? Yeah, yeah, exactly. You go get this thing done and then now's too late. You got. Yeah. And then they're like, oh, well, my friend said it was okay. Yeah. Okay. Good luck saying that for the rest of your life. Right. This says you can't. blame non-Polynesians for getting traditional Tatau because it's the traditional tattooists that are giving it to them.
Starting point is 00:31:39 No, you for sure can't blame them. Yeah. Yeah, you can for sure blame them. It's a two-way street. Like we just said, right? Yeah, that feeds into it if they're willing to give it to you. Right. But they're still not an excuse.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Yeah, yeah. You didn't have to go, though, in the first place. Like, they wouldn't have given it to you had you not gone. It's not like they're going around being like, get over here and let me give you this tattoo. right now. Like, yeah, they play a role to an extent. But also, you have to think, too, like, if you want to get, if you really want to get into it, that's like
Starting point is 00:32:08 capitalism is driving that too. Because they got to survive and be money. So, that's also based in white supremacy. Unpack it. But so I'm saying everything's tied back to that if you really want to get into the weeds about it. But yeah, you're still at fault. I would argue you're still going to take responsibility for the part,
Starting point is 00:32:25 which is the bigger part that you played in this situation. Yeah, which is being like, I'm going to get that. Right. Even though I'm not someone. And I just think that's so embarrassing. And you don't think, like, someone like yourself, like, I would be so humiliated. Right. If someone like yourself came up to me and was asking me questions about it, and I'm like, I genuinely don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I don't know what to tell you. I don't know how to answer these questions. Are you not humiliated? Girl, stay home. That's what I always say. This last one says, I don't get it. How does someone embracing the culture take that culture away from you? To me, it's saying don't do Mendi because you're not Indian.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Well, I can't speak to that, but... Right. I mean, that's why I said, appreciating and appropriating are two very different things. Appropriating is taking it and putting it on like a mask and you don't, like a costume and you don't live the life of a someone person. Just like the same way, it's like in the same vein as like when white people get like box braids done. Yeah. Or they culturally appropriate hair. To them, it's like, it's just hair.
Starting point is 00:33:29 But it's not. Right. That's what I'm saying. It goes so much deeper and that's the problem. Yeah. You think it's just so superficial where it's just a tattoo, who cares? And you don't think, like, you're completely void of, like, nuance or depth in any way. So you're not ever thinking, like, this could mean a lot to somebody, somebody's life experience that I've never lived.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Yeah. You know what I mean? like, you know, these are things that are deemed, they've been deemed ugly or, you know, a culture or ordinary or whatever. Yeah, or unprofessional. Right. And then now it's all exotic and now, you know, it's so, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's dressed up and sold as something new and original and edgy.
Starting point is 00:34:09 And it's like, we don't get that same recognition, you know, like, it's, it wasn't like that when it was with the creators of it. Right. But that's why I think, too, it's, it's one of those things where it's like, if it's that, superficial to you, that's the problem. Right. Like, it's nothing more to you than, like, a thing on your arm. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Like, you don't see it as anything more than that. That's why it's upsetting to like someone, people who, like, this is literally part of their culture and this, like, tattooing is a sacred practice in Samoa. Like, it's something that's so, like, intimate and specific to the person. So, like, that's why, like, when you get the, it's a spiritual, right? journey that you take and you like do it over the course of like multiple days for those of you don't know like up as like the tapping yep on the legs and like uh for it's the shorts they call it the shorts for for men it's like it's the legs the butt the butt hole and also and also the belly button yeah which is the last one they do right yeah i'm pretty sure so like the whole thing
Starting point is 00:35:15 painful expensive yeah a journey like truly it takes so long to get it done done the traditional way. And they go like, it's a whole community thing. Yeah, it's a whole process. Yeah. It's a whole ceremony. And you can't do anything to like ease the pain. You have to take every single tap.
Starting point is 00:35:32 It's like, it's a whole thing. That's how I was like, you don't know any of that. Yeah. You know nothing about that whatsoever. And you're like, it's just a tattoo. Who cares? That's the problem. That's why people get upset.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I always think they're like, let people enjoy things. Enjoy your own things. Exactly. Or just enjoy it on like Google, like YouTube. Like whatever, you know. pictures of it. Exactly. Enjoy it from a far.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Yeah. From a safe distance. Like you can look at it and be like, wow, that's beautiful. And that's where it stops. It doesn't need to go any further past that. I think, go ahead. No, no, I was just going to say that that's the thing, right? It's like so many, you know, white people feel so entitled to everybody else's, you know, culture.
Starting point is 00:36:14 And it's just like anytime anyone puts up a boundary or shows resistance to that, it's like, you know, like it's yeah it's drama it's like yeah you're so like why why does it have to be that way blah blah blah white supremacy yep that's why i said like your entitlement to it that's why i've said that before about the way that i make fun of dudes i then they're like i just don't understand why you can't take the high road why do you feel so entitled right to my reaction to disrespect yep i have to react in a way that's palatable and comfortable for you why is that that's why i always like trying to police your yeah tone policing yeah yeah Yeah, and telling me what I should do when you upset me.
Starting point is 00:36:56 That's entitlement. That's why I said you feel entitled to that because you're white. And you're used to it. And that's why I was like, I wish I was welcome at every table. I wish I had a seat at every table like you. And that I could just tell people, I don't like that, don't do it. I wish, not the case. I tell people like, don't do this or I'm going to make fun of you.
Starting point is 00:37:15 They do it. I make fun of them. They're like, I can't believe you did that to me. Like, you were on notice. Yeah, yeah, I literally sent you the email. I let you know ahead of time. I gave you two weeks notice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Like I was going to quit my job. It's so, it's just so, that's why I said, it's embarrassing. Yeah. You should be embarrassed. Like, enjoy your own things. That's okay. There's many things that I appreciate from other cultures that I will never appropriate. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Because they're not mine. So I'm okay with that. That's why I'm like, I'm okay. You don't need to have everything. Right. Everything doesn't need to be yours. So now I'm going to move on. to another video
Starting point is 00:37:52 and all this is funny because it's all like in the same vein of like Samo and humor but this one was actually made by one of my mutuals. I don't know if you've ever seen him on TikTok excuse me but his ad is half casted but his name's Stanson
Starting point is 00:38:07 Afoa. So he basically made a video and it was two women. They're dressed in lays and like those party city lays and coconut bras and the skirts and their dance And then Stanson stitched it and was basically calling them out for culture appropriation. And doing they louisals?
Starting point is 00:38:28 Yeah, it was a luowl. Yeah, it was a, oh my God, the way that gives me, like, itch. Like, it makes my literal spine, like, twitch so poorly. Yeah. But, yeah, he basically lit them up. He roasted the absolute hell out of them. Which is funny because they were, like, they were in these, like, costumes and they were, like, twerking and stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Oh, cool. Which is disrespectful in a different way. Right. So, like, the absolute, I don't even know how you describe it of like Hula, where like it's like, it's just the stripping of it essentially of all its spiritual practice. Yeah, truly like the way that they've just obliterated Hula, obviously because as we all know, like the way that it occupied Hawaii was also terrible. but the way that like their idea of Hawaii is that.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Yep. Or just like culture in general. Like I don't know how many times this has happened to you in your lifetime because you grew up in New Zealand. So obviously it's a little different. But like with in the States obviously like for me sometimes they'll be like, oh, what are you? And then I'll say, oh, I'm someone and they're like so like Hawaii. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Because if it was that, I would have said that. Right. If I was Hawaiian, I would have said Hawaiian. Yeah. No. And they're like, oh. Well, same thing, right? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:56 No, because they have two different names. Yeah. So it's Hula. Like, that's literally something where they'd be like, oh, like Hula. Yeah, yeah. No. No, I get that here as well. Not back home, obviously, but in the States, same thing.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Yeah, yeah. You tell them, I'm, oh, I'm someone. Yeah. And they're like, oh, is they like, or, you know, oh, so you do the hucka? No, but it's. I don't do the fucking Haka. That's different. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:22 That's different. I know, I've had people ask me that too, like about the Haka and I'm like, well, I'm not Maudi, so. Right. No. I have done, I've performed a Haka before when I was dancing, like cultural dancing, but no, that's not something we do. Right. Yeah, it's different. Different.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Right. We're not a monolith. Yeah, literally. Yeah. That was honestly, that was something that I thought about, especially. especially when Mwana came out. Well, because when I was dating my boyfriend at the time when Mwana came out too. And like when that had come out, the amount of people that would be like, you know who you look like?
Starting point is 00:41:01 Oh, yeah. Maui. Someone said that to my dad. My dad's bald. My dad's a big baldie. Like my dad's, no. Like you're so. You're not even close.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Like just say that's the only idea of Polynesia you have in your head. And you're like, these people are. Right. They're in the vicinity. They're in, they look like, I bet you they would love that joke. Yeah. And it's racist to say that. And I've said that to people before.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Like, I'm like, no. And like when they, they would say that to my boyfriend who looks even less like that. It's not even close. Like, and I started saying, no, he's just big and brown. Yeah, yeah. That's what I started telling people and they're like, oh, like they get embarrassed. Yeah. Because why are you saying that?
Starting point is 00:41:44 Right. That's the only thing you have in your head? Keep it in your head. I don't need to hear it. Yeah. You know? I, once my boyfriend and I were, we were at like a bar. And this guy came up to us and he was like, he was there alone, red flag, weirdo.
Starting point is 00:41:58 We're there by yourself at like two in the afternoon. That's weird. So like he was there and he was like, he started trying to talk to us. And then he goes, where are you guys from? And we're like, oh, we're from like Riverside County. Yeah. And he says, this dude's from Ohio. So he doesn't know anything about California.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Yeah. We're like, and so we go, we're like, we live. like an hour away from here and he goes no but like where are you guys from you know those questions when they do that I'm buckled in I'm not answering the question unless you ask me for real and then I go you know like Orange County yeah are you familiar I was are you from here he goes no I'm from Ohio go okay well then you wouldn't know where I'm from anyways yeah yeah and then he goes no but like where are you and then like after like two minutes he goes where are your ancestors from right it's like what where are you oh so you're Native American you know like you're from
Starting point is 00:42:48 Oh, so you're, you're, yeah, I know where yours are from. Yeah, yeah. That's what I told them. Exactly. And I was like, if you're asking what our races were someone, oh, I thought so, I thought so. I'm like, you don't know any someone. It's like, why are you pretending like you do? He's like, I've been to Hawaii once.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Congratulations. Like, what you want me to say. Yeah. Cool. Different island, but nice. Did you like it? Yeah, he goes, yeah, you know, like, I just figured, you know, since you come on man like I don't know if you're trying to relate but it's just racist like the whole thing
Starting point is 00:43:23 is racist I've said that too about my last name last names mean a lot to us in someone culture so sometimes dudes will purposely mispronounce my last name yeah I hate that shit um so I've I've actually had someone then stitch videos where dudes are purposely mispronouncing my last name and they're like if you're gonna talk about her pronounce the name right which I'm like that's cool I've said that many times but you know they don't like listen to me. Yeah, yeah. And I've talked about how that's a microaggression.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Yeah. So I'm like, once again, study up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I've, I've said this too on episodes, but my last name is Offalow, right? So, like, they sometimes will, I don't know where they got it from. I think one dude said it and then it just kind of carried within the shithead community. Yeah, yeah. But, like, they call me Drew Buffalo, which is also racist because, like, we're indigenous.
Starting point is 00:44:18 so it's like, you know what I mean? Like they're just like trying to think of a big fat animal and they're mispronouncing my name and on top of that. You know what I mean? It's like a little shit sandwich that I get to eat all the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:29 But I was like, I, the creativity is lacking. Wrong indigenous community too. On top of that, like. That's so dumb. I mean, one, one is not, it's not even like a good, well, it's not even a good, and so. And so, and then, but then, too, it's like, like you said, it's disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:44:47 like these are these are names that come from that that are from our ancestors you know like they're culturally like that's just culturally insensitive but then three like whether it was buffalo or like when you change the other thing is when you when you mispronounce a name or change letters or something it can take on a whole other meaning you know which could be a swear you know just something really and it's like yo you're not about to what what you're not going to do is disrespect my family that's what i exactly that's what i say too i'm like you can can say whatever you want, just pronounce my name right. Like, say it the way it's pronounced.
Starting point is 00:45:21 My mom's maiden name is Malga. So, like, that was also, that's also a very important someone last name. So I take a lot of pride in my name. Sometimes when people ask me, how do I start standing up for myself? I always say, like, start with something like your name. I know you let them mispronounce it. I've met many people of different minorities who are like, my name's actually this, but people always call me this, so I just let them.
Starting point is 00:45:44 I'm always like, not me. So I tell them, tell them. If that's not your name, tell them. So, like, my boyfriend's government name is P-L-E, like P-I-L-I. So that means Billy and someone, but, like, he lets people call him Billy because he was tired of having them see his name and then mispronounce it. And then he was like, you could just call me Billy. So recently, actually, he's been telling people, I think I want to start going by Pili again.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Nice. I was like, I think that's great. Take it back. You know what I mean? We conform so fast, so easily. Yeah. to like just the whole the whole like notion of like having to assimilate yeah to you know American culture or like be palatable yeah for American people is like it's not fair to us
Starting point is 00:46:27 yeah that's all like pronounce it the way it's supposed to be pronounced yeah like when my mom's family migrated from Samoa to New Zealand yeah um basically they went to schools uh they were run by like the catholic church like nuns and they could like my one auntie her name was fear to Maliki. Yeah. And they're like, we can't say that. We're just going to call it Anna. Like, how do you just, like,
Starting point is 00:46:50 nah. The way that they just are like, not doing that. Right. Doesn't even sound, doesn't even start with the same letter or it. It's just like, let's just call it Anna.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Yeah. So that's my auntie Anna. You know, yeah. Well, my, my boyfriend, too, his name, Pili, obviously.
Starting point is 00:47:04 So that's his government name. But like, on the roll sheet, like when you, they'd call his name. Yeah. They'd always say Phil. I'm like, you're adding a letter.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Like, where did, then it's the wrong letter. Like, no, literally they'd always say Phil. Yeah. And he goes, that's, I'm here. Like, he just lets me, like, dude, one time, call me Phil.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Yeah, one time this guy that we know that was like, he used to work with my family, older white dude, right? He came up to my boyfriend and he was like, he was like patting him on the back. He goes, William, right? And then he goes, William, he goes, I bet you only your mom calls you that. He goes, no, because that.
Starting point is 00:47:44 My name's not William. Yeah. And then he goes, well, that's what Billy's short for, right? He goes, my name's not even Pilly. Yeah, yeah. And he goes, what's your name? And he goes, Peeley. And then this guy goes, peewee.
Starting point is 00:47:55 And then my boyfriend goes, yeah. Yeah, I give up. Yeah. Yeah. And then I was all, why did you tell him that? Now he thinks your name's peewee. And then he goes, because I don't want to sit there and explain it. Like, I don't.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Right. And if this is what's going to end this interaction faster, then let it be done. Literally that's what he's all about. He's like, yeah, just, yep, yep. Yeah, he just lets people call him peewee. I'm like, that's, that's so weird. He's like, yeah, well, and we have some friends, like our friend Carlo, who's been on my show before, he's from Guinea. So he only calls my boyfriend peewee because he was like, you're not a billy, dude.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Like, if I look at you, I was like, you're not a Billy. I'm going to call you your real name, which is peely, which I think is really sweet. I'm like, that's cool because we get it. You know what I mean? Like we all understand how that feels. And it's like it's another form of a microaggression. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:48:51 Like even it's a first name and last name. It doesn't really matter. So that's why sometimes I like to ask, did you ever see that video? Oh, I wish I could remember who it was. But, you know, like we said, someone's Tongans, a lot of times they are very prominent athletes and very talented athletically. And there was this one football player who was going to get drag. and he was Tongan. And, you know, Tongans, they have a lot of Ks and a lot of A's in their names a lot of times.
Starting point is 00:49:20 So he had a really long name, like last name and first name. And I guess it was like a joke. It was a white lady. She was a reporter. Was this in Australia? No. Oh, this was here. It was here.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Oh, snap. And she was like, I'm going to try to pronounce your name, like, to be funny. And it was very long. Yeah. And then she just like absolutely butchered it. It was supposed to be a joke. And he was with his mom. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:46 They were walking the carpet together. And then he goes, no, you weren't even close. Right. Like, he was not laughing and it was not funny. And a lot of people, I saw a lot of people in the Polynesian community online, be like, this is so disrespectful to do this in front of his mom on like one of the biggest nights of his life. You're like trying to make a joke. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Jokey jokes. At their expense. Yeah. She's like, isn't this so funny? Right. What's wrong with you? Yeah. You can't just be like, are you excited for tonight?
Starting point is 00:50:12 Yeah. Isn't your language and your culture and such a joke? It's so funny. It's not funny because it's so not real. And I, and back when I was in college, there's like, you know, they have like the Polynesian bowl in Hawaii for those of who don't know. So they have like all the Polynesian kids from all the prominent schools who play football. They all come. It's kind of like a pro ball.
Starting point is 00:50:34 So they all come and they play in the same spot. And I think it's really cute because you get to like amplify each other and like connect with other Polynesian kids. And so there's lots of Samoan Tongan people and everyone else who is Polynesian, right? And I remember one time when I was a reporter, one of the announcers, he was like someone who's announcing all the names on the roster. So you get the rosters ahead of time. He was talking to me and he's like, can I ask you a question? Are you Polynesian? I was like, yeah, I'm Samuan.
Starting point is 00:51:01 He goes, oh, okay. I just like to know, like, can I run some of these names by you and can you tell me if I'm saying them right? Which I think is really cool. I was like, see, like it costs you nothing. to be like, hey, how do you pronounce this so I don't say it incorrectly? And he went through a list of like 30 names. They were very Polynesian names too. So like some of them were even kind of hard for me to pronounce.
Starting point is 00:51:22 But I was going through them with him and he was like, oh, okay, okay. He was recording me saying them so that he could practice and phonetically say them so that they weren't butchered. Yeah. Which I thought was refreshing. Good for him. Yeah. I was like, that's cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I did something similar. So in Australia, there's the NRA, which is the, National Rugby League, their competition out there. And I think that's what it stands for. I hope that's what it stands for. So I used to work quite closely with a lot of the players. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Almost 50% of the sport is made up of Pacific Islanders, right? Yeah, yeah. The white commentators butcher their names every week. So I took it upon myself to actually get the boys and made like a game, like a video, like where it was just like, okay, so I'm going to get you boys to pronounce it how the comments say it and then pronounce it how you're supposed to
Starting point is 00:52:14 and then we like broke it down and you know a lot of people like love the video and I was like okay you know and again I tried to do it in a in a way that was palatable you know so that people would take take the lesson on yeah like try to learn exactly
Starting point is 00:52:30 didn't really happen but you know yeah they were just like ha ha ha it's so funny yeah yeah like oh this video is cute and all okay so did you learn the lesson for it and it's like not really but they're like no i'm not going to say that but oh but so so i did that video but but then like a year or two later new zealand started to kind of copied it and then and so it's starting to pick up now so oh that's good yeah so i feel like the commentators in new zealand
Starting point is 00:52:56 at least are trying to take it more seriously yeah like they're at least giving it a the good old college try that's the least you could do right that's why i always um if i don't know i'll ask yeah before it starts right i'd be like can you um just so I understand, can you pronounce your name for me? So I know. Yeah. And then it costs you nothing. People appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I love when people ask me that. Like, before they interview me, whether it's like on something like live or if it's like for like a magazine or anything, like they'll ask me, can you pronounce your last name for me? So I have it on recording. So I say it properly when I talk about you. Yeah. That's great. Two seconds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Literally. That'd be so awesome. It's like so refreshing. I promise you every single time people are going to like it. Like if they have a name that's in any way, shape, or form complicated to the naked eye, they're going to be like, oh, thanks. This is how you say it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Right. And I promise you, it'll go like so far and not unnoticed for especially like, all-n Asian people. Okay. So one of the comments on this cultural appropriation video, it says, why do people still make themes for schools, events, or parties, Hawaiian? I think that all the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:06 I think that all the time. At this point. don't. What's the excuse? Yeah, again. What's your excuse at this point? With all the knowledge you've gained at this point and Google is free,
Starting point is 00:54:16 it's okay. You don't have to do that. You could do anything. You could do Western. Right. You could do medieval. Any other time period, you could literally pick anything.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Anything. Yet they still cute. I was like, you could do something made up like Game of Thrones. That's like completely fabricated. Pick that. Yeah. That's wonderful.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Pick that. Fun, engaging. I think like using, it's the same thing. I think too with like any sort of like Cinco de Mayo type party yeah
Starting point is 00:54:43 by non-Latin people non-Hispanic people it's the same thing pretty bad yeah I've seen some terrible ones like what's the point like you like just don't you could just have a party
Starting point is 00:54:53 yeah you don't need a theme and when they do it on campuses as well oh my god I know these are supposed to be learning institutions and this is like like these are supposed to be the brightest like y'all ain't that bright you know like
Starting point is 00:55:05 it's just so tone deaf yeah it's like so that's what I feel like truly about anything having to do with Polynesian like Hawaiian themes luau's like that type of shit yeah and it's not a real luau it's like and it's like it's luau not right exactly that's why when I say it luau like you know because that's how they'd be pronouncing it yeah just like Hawaii yeah same thing that's why I'm like it's of all the things in what you could pick why is it this yeah you could pick anything else I think when the options are endless, pick one that you know is going to be okay.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Yeah. Pick a safe one. Yeah. And I think sometimes too with, we never, we didn't really touch about this, but just in case, fetishization is another thing that I think, especially Polynesian men have to deal with. I would say Polynesian women are fetishized too for sure. Yeah. But I feel like with men, it's a lot more brazen.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Yep. So if, and it goes for all minorities, but obviously we can only speak to the one that we're a part of. Yeah. But like if you exclusively seek out someone to date, you're a problem, babe. You know what I mean? And you're not someone and it's not like a culture thing. It's not because you gravitate towards them culturally. If you're only seeking them out and you say things like, oh, I'm trying to have some D1 athlete babies.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Oh, God. Yeah. No. Because all you're seeing, you're just seeing us as sexual objects at that point. Exactly. It's humanizing. It's commodities. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Right? So like you want an athletic baby. Right. So you want a big athletic man. That's weird. That's weird. I have heard that before. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Yeah. That's the real thing. I've had people make that joke to me and my boyfriend. Yeah. They're like, you guys are going to have like D-Linman for kids. Because that's all we go for. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Yeah. Exactly. I'm like even if we did. That's none of your business. You know what I mean? And that's, I think that too. Like that's something with Polynesian people too, especially Polynesian men. It's very, very brazen.
Starting point is 00:57:05 So I always say like, check it, right? Check it out the door, babe. Sometimes before this, obviously before I got this platform, older white women were very brazen to my boyfriend, especially when Aquaman came out. Oh my God. When Aquaman came out, hell on earth. We never, I never knew peace when that movie came out.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Yo, I can imagine it. I blame Jason Momoa for reparations. Honestly, I blame him. This is your fault. But the way that, oh my. The thirst was just. The way that they would go feral, like the frothing at the mouth was insane. I've never seen anything like that.
Starting point is 00:57:47 And this was before I was a public person at all. Yeah. Oh my God, the things that they would say and do around him, especially when he was alone. Yeah. When I was with him, sometimes they wouldn't care or they would say things like, oh, you're so lucky. Girl, keep it in your pants. Yo, that's so disrespectful, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:58:04 To my face. I'm like, are you talking to me? Right. So I was like, girl, ew, get out of here, weirdo. Yeah. That's why I'm like, if you have those thoughts, keep them in there. Right. Keep them locked up tight.
Starting point is 00:58:19 And also maybe go to therapy. If that's the case. Or just take a cold bath, cold shout. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like literally go take a walk. You know what I mean? Go touch some grass, bitch. Like, that's what I always think, like, get over yourself.
Starting point is 00:58:30 And so I think just to wrap up, what do you want people to know about someone? in people, humor, culture as a whole, what's something that you want them to take away? Oh, that's a good one. I think one thing I always encourage people to do is look like we are more than what our colonizers have kind of placed upon us, you know? Yeah, absolutely. So when I think of our culture, I think of our values pre-colonization, you know, and I really encourage people to just do your Googles, do your research,
Starting point is 00:59:07 because the information's out there, you know, just read up on our books that are written by Samuans that aren't, you know, because our cultures are so intrinsically tied to Christianity and it's like, we existed before that. Yeah, so I think that's what I was. Yeah, exactly. Centuries, like, you know. Literally. They came and bothered us.
Starting point is 00:59:29 We were over there living our lives. Yeah, literally. So I guess that's the big thing is just, yeah, as far as our culture, like, you know, we had our own practices and our own knowages and they are valuable, you know. And I think even for other Samoans, like, we need to understand that because I think a lot of us have lost side of that. Yeah. I think, yeah, I think too, I always think to seek out Samoan creators like Crit, right, like myself, like Stanson, if you really want to. to learn more if you want to like educate yourself that's great I think that's a wonderful thing and I think too like if you are someone and you want to connect to other someone that's another
Starting point is 01:00:13 great way to do it too because you know seeking culture and community is natural like outside of your own family too like or maybe you're not close to your someone family and you want to get close to something that's another great resource is to utilize Googles I think also too if you are someone who's not someone and you admire them or whatever or you know a lot about them or you want to learn more. I think a huge thing I always want people to take away too. And I guess this goes for if you're someone also. It's like someone's are so much more than what they bring to the table athletically. Physically because that's what they're typically known for.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Like you said, rugby NFL players, right? Someone men are like four times more likely than any other race to get drafted to the NFL, which per capita, that number is unreal. That is way, way, way higher than like anything else ever. So it's shocking, really, like how often they're drafted to the NFL. I mean, my dad was drafted to the NFL. My dad didn't start playing football until he was in junior college. And my dad got drafted in the seventh round.
Starting point is 01:01:21 So like my dad was only playing for like two, three years and got drafted. So it's just something that comes natural to them, which is a great and beautiful thing. It's given a lot of time when people lives and, um, and, like futures. Yep. Because their family members have been able to do these wonderful things
Starting point is 01:01:35 and that's great. But there's so much more to someone culture than just that. Than just rugby, than just football, then wrestling, right? So many of them are such talented
Starting point is 01:01:45 artists, dancers, singers, right? So much more like intellectuals, reporters. Like there's so much more to someone people. You don't have to solely rely on your physicality
Starting point is 01:01:56 to have purpose in this life. That was like one of the things I probably would have done if I hadn't got into sports heavily, I would have helped someone, men especially, transition from college to the real world. Because a lot of times, this is a someone thing, but we put so much emphasis on sports because it's a way to a better life. And not so much on academia, which is something I feel very passionate about when it
Starting point is 01:02:20 comes to secondary education. So I feel like I highly encourage, especially Polynesian kids, to pursue a secondary education if you can. It's just so important to like, I just think it's a wonderful thing and it's a blessing to be able to have that. But, you know, when you have that, you, you just know that your worth and value doesn't solely come from what you, you know, can provide athletically. Like, if you get hurt, right? If something happens, like, what are you going to do after that? And a lot of times they're just left in the dust as soon as they get injured.
Starting point is 01:02:51 These corporations don't care about them, right? Exactly. They don't care about them or their education. So that was something I was really passionate about, was like, helping them transatlantic. transition to normal life and pursuing like avenues that don't have to be like something like construction right or something that's blue collar it can be anything you want literally anything you want because you're so much more than what your body can provide the world right or a large corporation so that's what i would want them to know um but i'm so so happy i got to have you
Starting point is 01:03:21 on my show so grateful no i'm grateful to be here too i really appreciate you having me yeah everyone please go follow crit um he is incredible where can everybody find you on socials? Yep. Just at what would, oh my gosh. I can't even remember. What would Crit do? That's what it is.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Yes. Not Jesus, but Crit. What would Cree? WWKD. Yeah, yeah. On all platforms. That's your handle on all platforms. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Okay, so make sure you go follow Crit. Cret is an amazing someone creator to follow and someone who can teach you a lot if you want to learn a lot or if you want to feel closer to culture. Thank you so much for coming. I really appreciate you. All right. Malo Lava.
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