The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - AN INTERVENTION Ft. Alaska Thunderfuck 

Episode Date: June 5, 2024

This week Drew welcomes none other than living pop diva, drag race legend, and long-awaited guest Alaska Thunderfuck to the show!! They talk about their weed horror stories, why pop divas should be allowed harems, men fighting monkeys, Alaska gets an intervention and whips out spy glasses, and so much more!  Drew: https://linktr.ee/drewafualo Alaska: IG/TikTok For sponsorships/partnerships, email [e-mail]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

My boyfriend is wonderful and I've known him for many years. Love, same. Which. I'm like same with your boyfriend. I knew him for years before I started doing. With my boyfriend. So just to clarify, I wasn't dating Alaska's boyfriend. I was dating my boyfriend.

That's the headline of this video. Just to clarify, do want, don't spread that rumor. Hey, everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me, your favorite. Everybody knows me. Who cares about me? On to the guest. Today we have the iconic, the legendary, the pop diva herself Alaska Thunderfog.

Woo! Welcome to the show. Thank you. Tea. I'm so happy to have you. Thanks for having me. Oh my gosh. Anytime.

Every time I have. It's so beautiful. Oh, thank you so much. My thousand-year-old pictures up there. I love that. We don't look like that anymore. I don't know who those people are. I'm so honored to have you.

I'm a huge fan. been a fan for a while. Thank you. Everyone who watches and loves my show loves to say I'm collecting drag queens like Thanos like Infinity Stones, girl, I'm getting them all. Good.

Catch them all. Yeah, I'm collecting them all in my own pokey ball. I love. This is a pokeets. What is it called? Where do you train them? A gym?

Oh yeah. The Pokemon's the gym that they trained the little animals in. This is a Pokemon gym. Literally. But I'm the one being trained. I'm being trained. Yeah, over and over again.

It does take strength to deal with drag queens. It absolutely does. I make this joke every time I'm like, drag queens love me because I'm a cunt, and that's okay. They love me because I'm a cunt, and they get it. Real recognized real. Totally, yes. They love a mean, funny bitch.

We love that. Yeah, and I fall into the category. That's why sometimes I'll tell straight women who are annoying. Because they're like, they fetishize gay people in a weird way, like friendship-wise. Okay. And they're always like, oh, gay people love me. They love me. And I was like, do they?

Because if you hung out with a gay person, like for real, if you hung out with gay men, drag queens, gay anyone, you would hate yourself because they are so mean. But I'm just as mean. That's why we get along. That's why we vibe. It's the perfect equation. I feel like you need that. You need that kind of like edge to you, especially to be a drag queen, right?

I require that. I love that. I feel at ease with that. You feel at home? Yeah. Yeah. I know. If it's too nice, something's off.

I know. I got to be mean to somebody. Otherwise, who knows what will happen? I'll get constipated. Exactly. I got to empty my systems out. I got to expel my venom. The flora.

I'm such a huge fan, as I've already stated, and obviously, you're a drag icon and legend. But for anyone who may be unfamiliar for whatever fucking reason, if you watch my show, there's no way you don't know who Alaska Thunderfuck is. But just in case people don't, I would love to know. I would love to know the lore behind your drag journey. Like, how did you get started in drag initially? What drew you to it? Well, ever since I was a child, I always liked, like, girl clothes because they're better.

They're cuter and sparkly and, like, pretty and, like, they move better. Totally. They also have more variety, like, men's clothes for hundreds of years kind of was, like, the same-ass thing. Yeah. So, like, as a child, I recognized that and I was like, I like this stuff. Yeah. But I wasn't allowed to like that stuff because it was like, because my mom didn't want me to, like, you know, die in Erie, Pennsylvania. Yeah.

So it became a repressed thing. And then once I got to college, I was like, yes, drag. That's when you got into the world initially in college. I did. And, like, I didn't really super. Brigette drag at first. Like I walked into one of my first gay bars, maybe the first gay bar. And there was a drag queen performing. And I was like, why isn't she singing? Oh, yeah. Like not live. Yeah. I didn't understand lip syncing. Oh, I see. I do now. And it's like an art form. And it's

brilliant. And it's hard. Yeah. But I think that's why it led me to like, I don't do backflips or splits or anything. Totally. But I do make noises into a microphone. phone pretty well pretty compellingly i'd say it worked out for you i'd love to ask um like how your name came about i'd love to know what the genesis of your drag name was marijuana period we love there's a strain called alaskan thunderfug have you heard of it no i haven't it's not named after me i'm named after it period you start lying and telling people they literally named that after me can you believe it i would never rue never But you're a green queen, so that's how you came up with it.

Well, I was way more than I am now. I'm, like, such a lightweight with weed now. Really? I'm like, I'm like, one hit, and it's like, and I have to be, like, alone. Isolated? Yes. In a padded cell? Yes.

Chained to the radiator. Just in case. Totally. Otherwise, you wake up naked and there's dead body next to you. Right, exactly. I can't count how many times that's happened. You're like, enough. God, again.

Again with this shit. It's so annoying. It does have a very hit or miss quality about it, especially edibles. Yeah. Edibles are crazy. Or like if I'm really drunk, I can like hit someone's weed vape if I'm feeling like crazy. You're feeling like crazy, like quirky. But that's like rare.

That's like New Year's Eve. You're really going all out. Like totally. Las Vegas. What's like the worst weed experience you've ever had? I've got a few, unfortunately. Once I ate an edible and I ate too much of it because it was one of these fucking jelly squares. Yeah.

Jelly cubes. It looks like a Boolean cube. And it's this big. Yeah. And I ate like half of it. I didn't even like pop the whole thing like I thought it was a candy. I split this tiny thing in half with a little knife and ate like half of it. And then I was like, oh, that's like 25 milligrams, which to me is hospitalization level.

Patted cell. But someone threw you in the padded cell. It was so crazy. And I was, so I had to like call my friend Nick on the phone. And I was like, please just tell me I'm not going to die. And so he had to continue reminding me that I wasn't going to die for hours. Even with edibles, I feel like I've gone too far a couple times. And even then it still doesn't stop me.

Like I did it a couple times and I'm like I need a break And then a couple months later I'm like Try again maybe I'm sure it'll be fine Spill the wheel Yeah Let's just see Russian roulette let's see Let's see what comes out on top Stick that gun right in my mouth

And you know one time I was working in New York And I had finished everything And the next morning I was flying out like four in the morning And so my boyfriend and I were like Oh let's just take some edibles And we had bought them in New York legally Like out of dispensary The guy was like oh they're pretty light

And my boyfriend had taken one Then I before he's like They're honestly really light I think he kind of upsold me. I'm like, okay, I take one, don't feel anything for hours. I'm like, well, I'll take another. I'll take another one. We'll see.

Girl, I woke up. I felt like I was in, like, you know when Alice in Wonderland's falling slowly and all the, all the furniture are just floating around her? That's what it felt. I woke up. I was like, I cannot go to the airport. I'll get arrested. I'm making a no-fly list immediately because they're going to think I'm on some crazy

shit when I go. And so I had to like send half my party home, like, because they were ready to go. Obviously, I'm about to be hospitalized. And my boyfriend, same boat, I don't even know how many he took. And he's a big dude. Like, he's like six four big dude. So he was winning. Tell me more.

Yeah, he's honestly in the jester room. I should have made him come out here so he could, I make him come out so he can model for you. My boyfriend has hooded eyes, right? And when I woke up and I was like, oh, this is a issue I have to deal with immediately. I was like trying to wake him up. I was like, I think something's wrong with me. I think I'm going insane. and he turned to look at me,

I've never seen so much white in my boyfriend's eyes. Because his eyes are hooded, so he has like a forehead that hangs over a little bit. Girl, I swear his forehead moved up, I could see his whole eye. I was like, I'm scared. I'm terrified of you. We can't fly.

We can't fly. Can't fly. No, I'm glad you didn't fly. And then literally my flight, I pushed my flight back hours later, and I still go to the airport. I'm still fucked up. Still.

It stays going through you. You just have to like wait. till it's over. That's the worst part. Sounds fun. Let's do it right now. Do you have any? That being said, I do have...

The very first time I ever smoked weed was off a dab. Like those ones with the blow torch. That's harsh. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And that same night was the first night I drank absence. So clearly I was like going through something. Were you like in the Moulon Rouge?

Like what? My name was Santine. I had red hair. Opium dead behavior. I love that. For real. You know, you're like early 20s, you're like, I could do anything. I could drink anything and like run through a brick wall and I'd be okay.

Because you can. Yeah. You can essentially. How you feel about weed now is how I feel about alcohol now. Yeah. Like I'll partake and have a good like drinky here and there. But if I have one too many, I'm hung over for three business days. What the fuck is that?

I can't do that. My spirit wants it so bad and my body says no. What's your drink? Wine. I do love a good wine. Do you like a red or white? I would love to drink a bottle of wine at all times, and I cannot anymore. Because then they call me an alcoholic, whatever that means.

It makes me so mad that my body can't keep up. Are you red or white girly? Or do you not care? It depends on the weather. When it's warm months, I like white wine. Love. When it's colder months, I love red wine. I'm still getting into red.

I'm not a big fan of red quite yet. I do love it. It turns my teeth purple. Does it? You get that vampire mouth. Looks you've been feeding all night. So I have to drink it by myself. That's why I drink by myself.

Red wine's a me thing. No one's allowed to be with me when I'm drinking red wine. Or smoking weed. Wow. I have problems. This is an intervention. There's literally people in chairs circled around. We do have something we want to talk to.

All right. Who wants to read their letter first. It's time. Well, okay, going back, going back to drag, I would love to get your opinion. I know obviously drag is like so much more mainstream now than it like ever has been in the past. And I'm curious to know if you feel like social media has played a role at all in kind of shifting the dynamic of drag. Like whether it's for the better, maybe for the worst, or maybe it's just making it more accessible. I'd love to know your thoughts personally.

Totally. And I mean, if you think about it, I think that social media. started to become more of a thing around when drag race started. Totally. Yeah. Because drag started with RuPaul's drag race. It never existed before. That's where it started.

So don't look too far. You heard it here. Don't look too far back. That's where it started. But like it is a huge thing. So like RuPaul's Drag Race drag is a thing. Yeah. And it evolved around the same time as like Twitter was starting.

to evolve in Instagram. Totally. So they really went hand in hand and like turbocharged drag into like hyperspace. Yeah, it like fast tracks you almost like a lot faster. Because everyone can see like what kind of eyelashes are you wearing. What is the hairline of that of that wig that you're wearing? And then you can instantly get it, find out where it's from. And then everybody gets that.

Then everybody wants to move on to the next better thing or the different thing. Totally, totally. So it's like hyperdrive, which is good for drag. And like makeup, you get to look at everybody's makeup. And that was cool. Yeah, that was like not the case for most drag queens when they started. Like, it was kind of just a trial and error. Like figuring it out on your own.

When I started, I would go on Myspace and look at pictures of drag queens and like pull from their MySpace. It's just like Intpo. Digital camera photos. uploaded. And I would be like, okay, there was no makeup tutorial on YouTube. Yeah. It was just like, I'm going to try and copy this. Yeah.

And I did so badly. And I did. I actually did. A few of the queens I've had on have said that too. Like, they think it's great that it's become more mainstream and more like, not completely socially acceptable, obviously because people are fucking awful and insane. But like, it's more open and platformed than it ever has been.

But then at the same time, like, queens. aren't really going through the same kind of paying your dues process that many queens had to before. So it's kind of like, and it's not really for the drag of it all. It's for like the stardom. Like they just want to be famous and, you know what I mean? And then everyone starts looking the same. That's what other queens have told me before. There's the little of that.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. They don't get a chance to be ugly. They don't get to build character. It was so blessed to just be able to go out and like look like shit and drag. It's like a right of passage. I think so. Now it's like anything you do is there's a camera and a video and it's in your face and it's all the time and everyone sees it all the time about everything.

Yeah. So there's no like bad drag is important. It's essential. Protect bad drag as as Meatball says. We need it. It's a right of passage. Absolutely. I got to look horrible for years.

Now I have to look. Nice. All the time. Do you think I like looking beautiful? I don't. It probably helps with the appreciation for how long it took to get to a space where you're like, okay, I found it. I got it.

I've nailed it. You need the ugly phases. It develops character. We deserve it. And room for error is always important. It helps you grow and evolve and get better at your crafting. Yeah. Literally.

I feel like, too, with so many, like, eyes on it, too, as well, well, it's become so not necessarily like it's all one monolith, everyone's all the same. I think it's more so like new like queens that emerge and they're kind of unsure of a talent that they have. It's more so like I just want to like be in drag. Not necessarily like, you know, some there's like pretty queens and then there's funny queens and then there's like many different subsets. And some are like, I just want to be in drag. Like do really, really good drag. You're like, well, that's cool, but a little different. Go off. Why not?

Well, first off, let's talk about your musical. I would love for you to tell everyone about it. Okay. Yeah. So please tell everyone about drag the musical. We started writing it like six years ago or like seven years ago. Wow, really? And so we finally put it in front of an audience like a couple years ago.

Love. And now it's like evolving and then we're going to take it to New York later this year. Oh, how exciting. I find it to be like the most fulfilling. thing and I didn't always feel that way about it. Really? And so I think that's, there's a lesson in there about like just because you, because early on, I was like, this isn't going to be any, this isn't going to be a thing.

Like, I'm glad we're doing this for fun. Yeah. But like, this isn't going to be a thing. And it wasn't until after years of working on it and then finally getting people to embody these characters and stand up and say them that, it really was like, whoa, this is actually a thing and it's actually kind of good. It's kind of amazing. You have something really special once you see it come to life.

Yes, but that's not an instantaneous thing. Definitely not. It took so long to get there. Yeah, absolutely. So, I mean, I'm wrong about a lot of things all the time. So I have to remember that I'm wrong about things. Are you more like cynical? Do you have like imposter syndrome?

Yeah. Yeah. Which is why the comment section is so. fascinating to me because I'm like, what do I have to say possibly that I stand so firmly in as an opinion that I want to type it out? Need other people to see it. And have everyone see it in perpetuity and then have it be like a ranking system. Like if it gets lots of thumbs up, I am not sure enough about anything in my life. That's actually a really good point.

To participate in the comment section. especially about shit that doesn't matter. I'm so wrong all the time. Why would I do that? I wish I had that confident. I mean, I feel like that's such a relatable experience too. Especially if you've been working on something for a long time. You're kind of like, this is like really fun, but I don't know if anything's going to come of it.

And then once it's like actually happening and it's in front of your eyes, you're like, oh my God, well, this is the best thing I've ever seen in my entire life, which is so exciting. I'm so glad. And that was something that we were talking about right before we started filming. but I think it's wonderful that you're able to use your drag, like, fame and kind of like pivot into something else, which is like writing, which I think is so exciting. And I'm curious, like, in the writing process, like, what was the hardest part for you when you were putting together the musical? It's very hard, like, doing the Tetris of telling a story. And you think about it and it's like, all rom-coms are the same plot.

all Shakespeare plays are kind of the same thing. Yeah. Like they all end the same and like it's the same formulaic thing. You think that until you like start writing about characters and then you're like, and we think we know how it's supposed to end, but it's like how do we literally get there and you have to like, it's like Tetris and like algebra. Did you write from like the very beginning to the end or did you kind of move pieces?

Like I know sometimes people write in pieces so they'll like write in pieces. So they'll like write certain things here and there and then kind of put them all together at the end. Was that kind of like your process? We started with the music. Okay. Because that's like what we knew. Yeah. And wanted to build around.

Yeah. Love. Like with Tomas and Ashley, we've written, that's how I know them is like writing drag music. Like nails, nails, nails. We wrote that together. That's Shakespeare. Poetry, if you will. All of my like drag music pretty much is from them.

Okay. So we started with the music. We were like, we wanted to sound kind of rock and roll, kind of rocky horror, kind of heavy. The sound. Love. And then we went from there. And it's like algebra. Still, it's like algebra.

Amazing. What's been your favorite part of like seeing it come to life now that it's like being realized, literally? I am addicted to writing a joke and hearing someone do it on stage. and the audience laughs. Love. It's euphoric. That's your new weed. It's like a dragon

that I'm going to continue chasing now. I'm addicted to it. I think that's wonderful. I love it. And then it could extend into anything if you really, really have such a strong passion for comedy writing.

It could go into all kinds of things. TV movies, more Broadway. Hopefully that would be amazing. I have more confidence in myself as a writer as well because of Barbara Streisand's book. Really?

T. Why Barbara Streisand's book? I listened to it all 50 hours of it. And? 5.0. Brittany's book was five hours as an audiobook. Barbara Streisand's was 50 hours. And you listened to all 50.

I listened to it for like months. But she has always had a clear vision of like how she saw things and how she heard her music. And she was unwavering in like, no, it's got to sound this way. Or when she's directing a movie, she's like, no, it's got to look this way. We've got to put the crane on the side of the fucking boat and swing it around. Like, it has to be this way. Yeah. Make it happen.

Yeah. And she's also like a writer. And so like, I don't know. Something about Barbara Streisand. She gave me like more confidence in myself as a writer. And I'm like, wait, I actually can do this. So it's that imposter syndrome thing, I think. Yeah, it sounds pretty strong.

It's pretty strong in you. It is strong in this one. Yeah. Honestly, I feel like people with really strong imposter syndrome, they tend to succeed pretty significantly at everything they try. So maybe that's why. Look at you. Conquering one world after the other. Well, I think it's good to have a little bit of like, maybe I'm wrong.

Absolutely. Yeah, a little bit of humility. Yeah. Maybe a little. It's okay. Yeah. Most people need that. I think more people need that.

Maybe more people in the world do. Need a little bit more of that. I could be wrong. Just a dash of that. Yeah. Yeah. Like, especially straight men, they need that more than anybody. Just a little.

Just like a tiny bit. I could be wrong. I could be. You know what? It could be awful. That one. And I can say that especially because as a Virgo and just who I am, I'm a big know-it-all. And I was a big know-it-all when I was a kid.

I'm definitely a lot better now. I wouldn't say it's gone entirely. Unfortunately, that's my Wolverine. And I'm like, uh, uh, fighting every time if someone says anything to me. Nobody likes to know it all. So I think just a little bit. And you know who helped me with that is like my sister is the complete opposite of that. So she's very like, I could be wrong.

I could be right. Who cares? But my sister, I always tell people this because it really like reframed my mind about that. Whenever she's like talking about something and someone's like, no, you're wrong because of this. My sister goes, oh, I don't care. So like that's her response. Like no matter who it is. is it 180'd my mindset because I was like, what a freeing feeling.

Yeah. To just be like, oh, you're right. Who gives a shit? Yeah. Oh, who cares? Because most things that people like dig their heels, they really don't matter at the end of the day. Most things. They don't.

And there's great strength in being like, oh, yeah, I'm totally wrong about that. Yeah, exactly. I envy that about you, that you have that. There's great strength in it. Absolutely. And collaboratively, I think it's also, like, important to be like, I'm not going to or like fight you tooth and nail about it. Totally.

Yeah. Oh yeah. No. Mm-mm. Especially in a creative endeavor too. Yeah. Because it's so different from like, you know, standard 9 to 5 corporate kind of jobs. Like in a creative environment, you like literally have to learn how to like bounce off of

each other and not be so like digging your heels in and shit. So I envy that about you. I wish I had more of that to be honest. Well. But now I just carry that like, well, well, I don't care. So I love that. use that as a practice, a religious practice, if you will, for me. That's good.

That's permanent life hack. Oh, well, I don't care. She'll go like, oh, well, I just remember it. I don't care, so it's okay. And it gets people every time, every time she says that they're just like, oh, okay. They just drop it. And everybody moves on with their lives. Must be nice.

So feel free to adapt that, if you will. You got it. Okay, so we're going to pithing. into our topic for the day. Okay. Which is why does society, and particularly straight men, love to tear down pop divas? Which is pretty, I feel, standard.

I mean, across the entertainment industry, I feel like there's many women and drag queens especially that have, like, amassed an audience fame, and a lot of men like to, you know, pick them apart piece by piece. And I feel like with pop divas, drag queens all the same. Men are just awful altogether. Yeah, why?

I don't know. I really don't know. It's like a lot. We're always just minding our business and they just come in here and start poking around for no fucking reason. I mean, I think of Taylor Swift, of course. As the sort of preeminent,

like extremely popular. Yeah. Young woman, pop diva music artist. Her music's good, bro. Yeah, it's fun. There's a reason. It's sort of like McDonald's. Yeah.

Like they've served a billion people. Yeah. It's not because their food is horrible. Yeah. Their food is good. Yeah. And it's marketed in a smart way. Her music is good.

So people are like, oh, she's overrated. It's like, but a lot of people like her shit and a lot of people go and watch her shit, so she's good. She has to be to some extent. It's kind of like when, whenever, because men like really fucking hate me on the internet, but like, like, awful men, wear that as a badge of honor. But when they comment on my shit and they're like,

you're not even funny, you're not fucking funny. I'm like, well, I mean, one of us is funny. Like, if we were to like check tape, one of us is getting paid to do it for a living, one of us isn't so like, I'd like to think I'm a little funny to some extent, to someone, maybe not. you specifically, but it's the same thing.

It's like, well, you can't really, success kind of speaks for itself in terms of whether or not it's working for some people. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's kind of like if people were trying to critique your drag, you're like, well, can I see yours? Like, I'd probably agree with them first of all. Like, first off. You got me there.

But also like, yeah, like, yeah, I do, I do drag for a living. Yeah, so like, I mean, I think. The only job that I can do, though I don't really have a choice. I kind of got to lean in. I've said that about this job. I'm like, this is the only job I could have where I could wear whatever I want and be late all the time. And I'm living for it. I need that.

Hey, I need that. I actually need that in a job requirement. No other job on this planet would let me do that. So this is the one for me. I got to make it count. So I'm going to read some descriptions of videos that are like. applicable to our topic of men trying to like tear down pop divas okay and uh we're just gonna talk about them kiki about them laugh if necessary all those things so can we cry if you feel so inclined

it's an it's a safe space in here you could do whatever you want okay great in this video uh from last year a man is saying that people have quote turned on selina gomez and started calling her a pick me because she's made so many videos on social media lately talking about how single she is he says people are sick of hearing her say she's not in a relationship. Later it was revealed that all of this social media content was part of her promotional plan to release her song single soon. So it was like a marketing ploy, her making videos about that, I guess. Right.

But he was basically saying no one wants to hear about how not in a relationship she is. This is from last year. Obviously, I think she's in a relationship now. So it's just men talking shit on successful women being like, eh, who cares that you're single? I'm like, men complain about being single all the time, and you guys do it on podcasts. They do? Oh, yeah, girl. A man with a podcast?

A threat. I've never heard of a man with a podcast. Really? Unfortunately for me, I've been exposed to, like, all of the worst straight men in the world who are like, I lost my hair at 22. I'm single and nobody likes me. Okay, I'm going to buy a microphone and complain about how women are the problem. It's very prevalent. And honestly, I think it kicked up a lot in, like, 2020 when we're all at home.

And so they were like, you know what I should do? Talk about how much I fucking hate women. Let me get my favorite men together and let's all do it together. But like, why? I'm assuming it's because they don't get any puss, but that's just my working theory. But if they want puss, why are they being mean to the holders of? the put. I don't know, girl.

I don't understand the tactic. Me either. I've literally said if you just shut your fucking mouth, you'll probably get some posts. If you just shut your mouth, just stop talking. It'll probably work on its own. You know, like, women in heterosexual relationships, women are so, like, their standards are, first of all, in hell.

But, like, also, they're like, just someone who's, like, nice to me. Yeah. So, like, you could be the ugliest bitch in the world, and you'll probably get a girlfriend if you're nice. like if you just have a hobby or like an interest and you're nice to her, I'm sure you'll get pus. I'm positive. But they can't even do that.

That's so funny that you say that my requirement when I was like trying to find a boyfriend, like younger in my life was like, no, not even trying to find a boyfriend. I was like, would you sleep with that guy? I was like if he was nice to me. Like literally that's the requirement. I'm telling you. It's very important. Yeah.

And very rare apparently. So many men are not nice. What the fuck is going on? Yeah. What is going on? What is up with that? They're so angry. They're so upset.

My body, like, can't, like, open up for someone if they're not nice to me. And if they start to be mean to me, it's like a... Your butthole just goes inside your body. Suck up there. All of me goes like that. You just cave in. Like a Venus flytrap closing. I feel like that's a pretty common experience.

Many, many, many, many people have that. They're like, just like, please just like be nice to me. I feel like that's an insane thing to have to ask. Yes, it is. Would you mind just being a little nicer to me? Just a little. And then with straight men, like when women ask straight men to do that, they're like, oh, God, where does it end?

First you guys want to vote. Now you want this. Fuck. And it's just upsetting. It's very upsetting. So the comments on this, someone said she's hitting the wall dating is harder for women the more successful they get basically saying it's her fault that she's single because she's too successful i'm like well go

get a job i'm sure it's a lot i'm sure if you did that it would probably help your chances i think sometimes too with men who see women like selina gomez right they're like god i would never date her yeah that's why like if yeah you're not you're you're you're actively not dating synonymous because that's your choice. I'm choosing to not date. Don't worry, we've talked about it. We're just going to stay friends. I'm like, you don't, you could never get a bet you looked anything like singomas, please.

Please don't. You're pissing me off. Yeah. I do understand. I mean, because I feel like it can be like a threatening thing for men. Totally. Because Lady Gaga talked about it in 5'2 on Netflix. Period.

She was like, where am I going to find something? some guy who just comes into my mansion and is like, hey, puts his feet up and is like, what's up? Like, where is that guy? Yeah. But she found him. Period. And he's really nice.

Love that for her. But that's honestly so real. Like, I feel like that's the case with most pop divas, too, like these men, like, that they date and it doesn't work out. Like, Taylor Swift's another one where they've, like, oh, she's always moving on to other men. I'm like, some men will have four girlfriends at once. you bitches don't give a fuck.

Like, and all of a sudden, when women have long-term meaningful relationships over years, they're like, whore fucking burn her witch, uh, which is stupid. But also I feel like, yeah, with women, I feel like, I think men like them in theory. Like they're like, okay, she's beautiful, she's talented, like, she's smart, she's, I'm sure she's funny, whatever. They like them in theory. And then when you actually, you know, in practice start dating a really famous fucking person, like Selena almost tears or whatever.

You have to date everything that comes with her, which is like all of the attention, all of the fans, all of the paparazzi, all of the media, all of the everything. And then that's when men start to crumble because their sense of self

is so rooted in like being awesome or whatever the fuck. And then they just feel outshined by women like that. And then they're like, fuck her. And then they go and cheat. And all of a sudden that's her fault. So like it's kind of sad how that works. I feel like many pop divas

have had that similar experience. I'm not sure if that happens in the, in the gay community. It does. Being threatened by success kind of thing. Also, Barbara Streisand has movies about that. She does. She has a movie about everything, I feel like.

She's lived a million lives. A Star is born is about that. Yeah, totally. Absolutely it is. She's super successful, and the guy, like, doesn't like that. He doesn't vibe that. Yeah, he likes it in the beginning when he's more successful than her. Right.

And then as soon as she starts catching up to him and inevitably passing him, all of a sudden, he's like, fuck you. Yeah. Like they get jealous, which is weird. Yeah. Weirdo. I've been with my boyfriend now. We're going on seven years. And thankfully, and I dated, I've been dating him way before this happened to me. So like now I saw a tweet yesterday where someone said, do you think people in relationships now feel like when they look at the dating scene how it is currently, they feel like they feel like they caught the last plane out of Saigon? Because that is kind of how I feel. I feel like I got that last chopper bitch. I was on there. See ya. Totally. My sending out peace and love and prayers to everybody dating currently.

Totally. It looks rough out there right now. I'm happy to be on the bench. My boyfriend is wonderful. And I've known him for many years, like before we ever even started dating. Love, same. Same with mine. Which?

I'm like, same with your boyfriend. I knew him for years before I started dating. With my boyfriend. So just to clarify, I wasn't dating Alaska's boyfriend. I was dating my boyfriend. That's the headline of this video. Just to clarify, do want, don't spread that rumor. But like, it's important.

It's necessary. And I am not Taylor Swift level famous. Same. Or Selena Gomez. Same. Actually. At all. Yeah.

But in the world of gay, you are. I kind of might as well be. Absolutely. When it comes to trying to date someone. Totally. So there's all the sort of guardedness of like, are you just trying to get Instagram followers? Totally.

If you are, you should date someone else who is, because I'm not that good at Instagram and my followers have stayed the same for fucking five years. So choose someone else. That's not my strength. It's not my strength. There's just like that precaution of like, is that what this is? Yeah, absolutely.

I've had that page turn. Oh my gosh. In dating scenarios. Yeah. And it's like, it's like, oh, no, no, no, no. So my boyfriend now doesn't give a fuck about Instagram. That's so. Love that.

That's so. That's so funny. I've told my creator friends, like my other girlfriends who are single and they're in the industry, I've told them, I'm like, you need someone who's like familiar enough with social media, but doesn't know shit about it. Like, doesn't really give a fuck. about it, but knows enough to like understand your lore and what you do for a living. Yes.

But also not so like in it. Totally. Just outside. That's what you need. Totally. Because you have someone too out of touch. It's like hard to explain what you do for a living and like how your job works. To in you're like, ick.

Yeah. Because then they want to make couples content. Uh-oh. Get that away from me. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes people ask me, they're like, can you guys make you guys make? couples videos? No. No, actually. I'm the star on my channel, so I don't need any co-stars. I'm good.

There you go. I'm good. I'm set. I'm kind of a one-woman show on mine. So, okay, we'll read another comment on here. It says, so glad she's so annoying, don't get how people love her. Okay. And this one says, embarrassing new Taylor Swift. Again, the whole like dating too many men kind of deal, which is. You know what I mean? Like, what's the measure? I feel like there are so many famous men that had just a whole, like, harem of women. I was literally just going to use the word harem. I believe that pop divas should be allowed to have a harem.

I would love that. Let's flip. Let's get, let's really, let's shake shit up. Let's like, let's have one, just have seven boyfriends. Real Liz Taylor, but all at the same time. Yes. Right? Sister wives, but inverse.

Taylor should date the whole football team. including the coach throw him in there too I live for that he's dating 30 men at the same that would be so hot like yes these are my seven men

one for each day of the week right a roster a moving roster absolutely that would be oh that would be so Tia I would love to see that happen especially if it was Taylor Swift of all people

she's so like normal like a harem of young men each carpet she walked different guy on her arm. Go off. I love that. Lean in. I'm getting into it.

You should write something about that later. Okay. It's Taylor Swift as the main character. Absolutely. A couple, like, I think years ago, my boyfriend got approached by this dude at the gym. And my boyfriend has, unfortunately, is a large man. So like men are like moth to a flame to him and love to talk about like,

what do you do with the gym, whatever the fuck. So he has to sit there and listen to it a lot. And this one guy like went on a whole tangent. He's just talking at my boyfriend for however long. And then my boyfriend's telling me this story. And he said that this guy was talking about how he wanted to have a harem of women. And he was like, well, first of all, he was linking it to being Muslim, which I was like, you don't have to abuse the Muslim faith in order to just like have multiple partners.

You don't have to do that. You could just fuck multiple people at the same time. Sure. But anyways, he was saying he wanted a harem of women because he wants to be able to be able to to pass on his genetics and like procreate with lots of women. Basically have a whole bunch of fucking kids. And he was like, I want to be able to pass on my jeans. Mind you, this man is 24 and his hairlines are seating already.

So I mean, I'm just going to go on a limb and say maybe your jeans aren't the ones that should be being passed down. I don't know if you're the girl. I can't imagine. Having one child is brave at this point. on planet Earth. For real. It is a brave and bold choice.

I love babies. I think they're so cute and it's amazing. Totally. I'm like, I'm not going to like put, I'm not going to participate. Yeah. I'm not the one mama.

But to be like, I want 20 children. You're crazy. He's not going to take care of one of them. That's so wild. It's real gross. Where is that confidence? I don't know.

I was just going to say like, me what are y'all smoking like i think i need some of it yeah sometimes i'm like maybe you guys are on to something whatever crack you're smoking i think i need some of it i think i need a little just woke up one day and felt that good about myself so i was like i want to put 20 me into the next generation dude that like unbridled borderline delusional confidence if i yeah you're right if i woke up with that one day i'd probably like grow 20 stories high and start knocking buildings down like godzilla i'm just going to cause havoc i'm going to re-givens i'm going to wreak havoc on the world. Yeah, when he was saying that, I was selling my boyfriend, I'm like,

that guy has an underbite. Like, you don't need more kids. You're in your 20s. You still haven't gone to the dentist. You don't need more kids, girl. You don't, don't pass that on. Keep that inside. Let it die with you. I was like, like, if your gene pool, die with you. I think that's the best for planet Earth, if I'm being honest. Okay, I'm going to read this next video. So in this video, a girl is doing the give a vague but true hot take trend and her take is disliking pop music is inherently misogynistic. I think it's too depending on like why you don't like it right so like like if they just hate it for no reason I think that's obviously misogyny if you're just it's just not your fave you just like prefer other genres I think that's fine because I feel like pop is well it's

an art form music so like art is subjective so not everybody's going to love the same shit But I feel like if you just hate it for no reason, it's just like being homophobic. Like if you hate gay people for no reason, like a reason you can't even explain. Yeah, it's probably not good. Well, there's probably something else going on. It's like hating disco,

like when that whole like disco hatred thing happened. Yeah. And like we're going to burn the disco records in the baseball field. That was homophobic. Yeah, literally. And racist and misogynistic. And it was coded. as like protecting being about disco and rock and roll but it was really just an excuse for like

totally uh misogyny yeah there's always an underlying like message underneath it which is it's not the superficial reasoning it's literally like a bigoted ideology that you're just taking out on an art form which i i don't love every genre of music but like i don't hate any music like i'm not like I hate that. I just don't. It's like I feel like you have that attitude of all those things. You're like, I don't like hate. No.

Anything really. It's just like I prefer some things over others. Yeah. It's real like neutral. I'm just kind of like, if you hate pop music, girl, get a job. Get a job. Yeah. Listen to Barbara Streisand's book.

I don't know. Listen to it. I do recommend that. Do something with your life. Girl, I think you need a hobby. For real. Honestly, you're inspiring me to listen to it. I heard this podcast once. I can't even remember what it was, but there's a woman on it and she was like, when I'm on dates, like a first date, I ask the guy I'm on a date with what he thinks about Beyonce. Period. And in doing that, she can find out so much information about how he feels about women, how he feels about black women. like instantly.

I didn't know this was a thing, but apparently like lots of women, that's like a first date question. That's a great first date question. I think that's get it out of the way. Yeah. Yeah, because again, like, if you hate to Beyonce,

and some men do for reasons they can't even explain. Why? First of all, go to hell. Second of all, the cops are on their way. And third, what the fuck is wrong with you? Like, how could you ever hate one of the greatest living entertainers of all time? Like, yeah, I don't know, girl, can't explain that.

That's a great first-day question. You're right. It tells you so many things. Because a man could literally be like, oh, she's cool. Like, I don't, I don't like love the music, but I do love some of her stuff. And that's it. Like, you could just leave it at that. But men who are like, oh, I hate her.

I hate her. She's so overreated. I hate her. There might be something else going on. I recently thought, well, first, some women actually put me in their, like, profiles on Tinder and stuff and they're like if you yeah they're like if you hate Drew off wallow on TikTok then don't swipe on me don't swipe right right yeah left is bad I have these sunglasses and I just broke them in my pocket but they're really cool this is um it has a rearview mirror

oh it has to come out first I like how the arm ripped off but the rear view mirror is still The review mirror is intact so I can see like behind me. Keep an eye on your ops behind you. You got to keep an eye on you. You got to watch your back at all times. The other arm, wait, shit. The other arm has a lipstick holder. Isn't that nice?

Where did you get those inspector gadget glasses? Those look like something out of spy kids, girl. I don't know the name of the designer. They're sick though. I got them so many years ago. I'm sure you could just put the little screw in the arm. I'm sure they'll go back together easy. I need an eyeglasses kit.

On the set, stat, please. It has a little, but like they're an amazing eyeglass. Do you actually put lipstick in there? I have once. Period. More chapstick. I'm so sorry. That was supposed to be seamless while you were talking.

It wasn't supposed to interrupt what you were saying. No, no, no, you're totally fine. Oh, I was just saying that, what was I saying? Oh, people put me in their Tinder profiles. Oh, yeah. So they're like, if you hate Drew, just like swipe left on me. I love that. I was like, period.

Love that for you, girl. I thought of one recently, though, where I was like, this is, I think, a really good tell for men, like to tell if they're horrible, is if you ask a man, if he thinks he could take a monkey in a fight, like a ape, like a primate, hand-to-hand combat. Like, if he thinks he could fight a monkey and win, that man's a misogynist. Who would think that they could? Girl, you'd be... Like a... No. Girl, you'd be shocked

to know how many straight men think they could actually fight an ape, which is insane. No. I'm like, monkeys literally choose not to kill us, so I'm, if you think you could be one in hand-to-hand,

come... Girl, you're out of your mind. I've even said, too, I'm like, bullets barely stop gorillas. You got to shoot them 15 times. God. You think you could take one hand-to-hand? So that's my...

my new litmus. I think when people ask him, I want to say, ask him if he thinks he could take a monkey in a fight. Like, you just ran into one on the street and you guys started beefing if you if you think you could win. It's a good tell. Oh my God. That's another life hack. Right. I'm saying Beyonce, me, and then if they could fight a monkey. Tell you all you need to know about a man. I love that. And whether or not he's the worst person alive. It goes back to what you said about If I could have that confidence, if I could just like harness that for a day, what could I accomplish? My life would be different. Peace on earth would be restored, obviously.

What? Yes. What? Yes. Imagine if they put all that energy into something else. Into like world hunger. Yeah. Like finding like cures for incurable diseases.

God. What could the world look like if men just stopped being awful for a second? please okay so the comments on this video about like hating like just absolutely hating pop music for no reason uh this guy wrote okay then i'm a proud misogynist well i mean you said it not me oh cool i don't care exactly it applies amen this one says misogyny is the best and then in parentheses rap music destroys by the way they're just saying it's better which again like I don't think you can compare genres. Like, you can't, like, I feel like they're real apples and oranges

because, like, the measures are different in both categories, like, entirely. So you can't compare rap to pop because they're two different things. Like, you can't say one's better than the other. I agree completely. I think it's just, they're two different art forms, two different stuff. Like, again, it's just, like, rap, man, pop girl. That's how they categorize. They're, like, rap for man, pop for girl.

And gay people. Pop is very good. as it should be, as God intended. Absolutely. And this last one says, my eardrums stay out here hating women. Don't care. The comment section is so scary.

Yeah, it's so scary. I just can't, I can't imagine that you listen to the fame monster by Lady Gaga and you hate that. There's no way. I love it. That's what I'm saying. You cannot listen to that album front to back

and be like, this sucks. There's no way. You're liar. No, it's so good. You're literally a liar. You're such a liar. Yeah. And I feel like if more men were honest about how much they love pop music, then maybe they wouldn't be so fucking angry all the time.

The world would be a better place. It would heal. It would start healing. It would be like a Star Trek future, I think. We'd have flying cars, jet packs, all that. We would have all of that at the ready. What's crazy is that, again, like you said, it's all lends towards like a bigoted ideology. So it's like it's homophobia and misogyny.

when you just inherently hate it because you they associate pop music because it's so beloved by women and it's dominated by women and gay people queer people they're like oh for girls feminine gross which i just like don't understand yeah i don't get that at all i don't understand how you could listen to that and be like ah that's for girls and also like full tea it's like okay there's a woman like and she's the singer and she's on the front of the album but like there are all sorts of james and genders of people who are making the music and the instruments and the production and the writing. And like, there's all types of people in there. Putting that together. So it's not just women. It's kind of everybody. Yeah. And it's good.

And also, like, some of the greatest producers in the world write for men, women, and everyone in between. Totally. They write for rap, pop. Like, they write for everyone. It's not, music's not gendered at all. So you can, the freedom of being able to like whatever you. want. I know. It's okay. It's okay. Again, like you said, it's just a buried homophobia. Like, they're just like, I hate that gay people, queer people and women love that. So I'm going to

hate it. When gay people and women love you, girl, you're going to be famous. If they love you, I'm telling you, you get the girls on your side. Totally. You're going to have a long, illustrious career and entertainment. I'll tell you that much. Absolutely. What is the, it's from Sex and City. She's like, first you get the girls, then you get the gay. Wait, no, first you get the gays, then you get the girls? I can't remember the order.

First you get the girls, then you get the gays, then you get the whole world. Something like that. And that's too. I'm paraphrasing. Sorry, Samantha Jones. That's honestly so true. And you know that too. Your career is fostered

by the girls and the gays too. Well, thank God for Rupal's drag, right? Absolutely. And well, and they're just like, I feel like they're such loyal fans. Like they'll follow you forever. They really love you and they like are commit to loving you. Like they'll follow you wherever you go on all your different endeavors throughout your career. People with like primarily male fan bases.

Yikes. They scare me. Like any famous person with a primarily male demographic, ew. Like who? Like who has that? I'm trying to think. I certainly don't. What, like Joe Rogan.

Okay. You know what I mean? Like one of those guys. Yeah. I'm trying to think. Me not even knowing because I don't, I'm not a fan of like men like that. So I mean not struggling to find an example. I'll never understand because I've even said to him like my demographic is overwhelmingly

not men. Like my demographic is honestly insane the numbers. It's like 982, which is like very, very high. And that's not accounting for people who don't operate within a. gender binary either. Yeah. So like that's an unprecedented like very high female demographic. And that's how I want it. And that's how I prefer it. Like if I had mostly male followers, that's, I take that as a threat to me personally, an open threat. Like if men want to follow me and they love me. Uh oh, hate that. Straight men. Get away from me. Hate that. Like that's, that scares me.

I don't need that. I love that. 98 too. That's fierce. It's high. That's sick me. Sometimes my girlfriends will ask me like, how did you, like, how do I, you know, how did you change the demographic to like to get it to that point? And I'm like, well, it's pretty simple. I just made men fucking hate me. So nothing moves the needle quite like that. They mobilize quickly when you antagonize them constantly. Okay.

I just go and I hit that hornet's nest with a big old stick all the time. Yeah. But okay, so we talked about all kinds of things, right? But just to wrap, I would love to know what your, I'll ask you two different questions, actually. So first, what your best piece of advice is for anyone that may be looking to go into the drag world right now, like in the current climate. What would you say is your best piece of advice for them? If it's something they really want to do, but they want to do it right and they want to do it in a way that will be fulfilling and hopefully successful, obviously you can't guarantee that. But what would you say is your best piece of?

piece of advice for them. Well, when I first started drag, it was not a viable career choice. It was actually like, you're throwing your life away. You've lost your mind. No one understood what drag was what I was doing. But I still, with all of that in mind, I still was compelled to do it. Yeah, and I had to do it. So if you do have a compulsion that is undeniable to do, to, to, to do drag, then okay, do it. And then my next piece of advice is figure out what is, what is you about it? Because like you said, there's that thing of like all the drag queens can end up looking the same. Because there's all the same makeup tutorials and wig things and all the things are the same. Yeah. So figure out what it is that's you about it and really make sure you know what that is.

and can someone draw like a cartoon of you on a napkin? And be like recognizable as you. Yeah. Oh, that's such a good boy. Because then it's like distinctly you. Yeah. And that's what makes it unique. Yeah.

And then my next question would be in the thread of advice because now obviously you've conquered drag. And now you're kind of pivoting more into writing and like you're working on your musical. So for people who maybe want to like utilize something that they've maybe gotten unsuccessful at, but they kind of want to pursue other avenues. What would you say is your best piece of advice for them? I don't know.

Just do it. Do everything? Yeah. Try it. Like, yeah. I mean, especially nowadays, I feel like there isn't one concrete path for anything. Totally. So it's like if you want to write a screenplay, just do it.

Do it and see how it goes. Because I think in your mind you can defeat yourself a thousand times. Totally. Before you even start it. Yeah. And then realize that once you start it, it's going to be really fun at first. Then it's going to be fucking horrible. Then it's going to be difficult.

Then you're going to hate it. Then you might like it. Yeah. If you stay the path. It's like five stages of grief. You're getting through it. Totally. And then it will hopefully work out in the end because you were meant to do it, hopefully.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I hope it does. It did for you, thank God. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming on the show. You're amazing. Thank you for hilarious.

You're amazing. Period. I would love for everyone who doesn't know where can they find you. In my house, drinking red wine and eating edibles by myself. All along. No, I'm just kidding. I am on Instagram at the only Alaska 5,000. Period.

My TikTok is Alaska Alaska Alaska Does someone take your name? Yes! So annoying. Who is the person? I want to track them down. I'm not kidding. You are probably like the fifth drag queen I've had that said they literally, someone

literally has my fucking name on TikTok. Why can't? Who is the person? It's just the same person. Do they want money? Is it a ransom? I would like to just go to their house. I don't want to like fight.

I just want to be like, Hi. The actual Alaska Thunderfug, I'd love if you gave it to me. What's up? Deactivate that account immediately. I mean, it's okay. You can show up and I'll stand behind you and I'll be threatening. Okay, great.

I'll be the muscle for you. I'm going to fight an ape, though. Just to prove. Invite them outside and then I'll have the ape and then they have to fight them in order to get your name. To keep it. That's the test. That is. And then do you want to promote your musical?

Yes. So later this year, Drag the Musical is coming to New York City. Woo-hoo. So just stay tuned and, you know, more details will be coming. Period. Just make sure you're following Alaska on everything and then you'll get all the updates firsthand. Yeah. Do you.

Love that. Thank you so much for coming on the show. You're amazing. Thank you so much for watching. Don't forget new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms or you can watch the video, which lives exclusively and for free on our. favorite platform Spotify. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you to my amazing guest, Alaska

Thunderfuck. Don't forget to check out, drag the musical. Make sure you're following Alaska on all socials and I'll see you next week. Bye!