The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - BRING BACK BEING EMBARASSED Ft. Stanson Afoa | Drew Afualo | THE COMMENT SECTION EP 46

Episode Date: December 28, 2022

[video available on Spotify] This week on the podcast, Drew welcomes Stanson Afoa to talk white people's favorite phrases, appropriating vs. appreciating cultures outside of your own, why some people ...on TikTok really have the AUDACITY, and so much more! Drew: LinkTree Stanson: Instagram / TikTok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 People are like, we'll talk about your laugh. And I'm like, you realize, like, I laugh like that too. And they're like, I've never heard you do that. And I was like, well, see, I code switch. You know you have your white person laugh. Yeah, I have my. Yeah. It's like a chuckle.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Yeah. Hey, everyone. And welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me, your favorite. Everyone loves me. Also, happy holidays. We have yet another Christmas bird on my sweater. Moving on to the most important part of each episode. Today, I would love you all to welcome my very special, wonderful.
Starting point is 00:00:33 someone guest Stanson, Afoah. Woo! My second Polynesian. I'm honored. I'm so happy to have you. I'm so happy to be here. It's been a long time coming.
Starting point is 00:00:46 You know, sometimes, no, actually, but you know sometimes people are like, girl, you need to have, this was before I had Creight on my show, but they're like, you need to have someone people on your show. I'm like, I'm trying. You know how hard it is?
Starting point is 00:00:58 We're all over the place. There's not many of us. There's not a lot of us, and you're right. We're all scattered. Yeah. Any other someone are mutual? Alaska.
Starting point is 00:01:06 I came down from Alaska. Yeah. Where it is freezing cold right now. So thank you so much for having me again. I'm not jealous of you. Not even a little bit. But you're right. We're also scattered.
Starting point is 00:01:15 I feel like all the mutuals that I have in Utah, Hawaii. Some of them are on the East Coast. Yeah, same. It's like really hard to like collab. Well, there's yeah, that. And then there's also like so few of us in the social media space that have like been able to build platforms. Because there's like not many of us at all. let alone like performing online like we do we're both online jokers technically
Starting point is 00:01:39 you know i never thought of that yeah we're hired clowns that's how i consider myself i paint my face i go and dance for people and then they laugh and then they're like all right give her i'm on it i you know what i can i can rock with that yeah stanton and i found each other pretty early on i would say you and i were mutuals a long time before i like really really blew up yeah it was i I think it was, was it at the beginning of this year or? Yeah, like, beginning of this year, end of last. It was, like, right when it was, like, about to blow up or explode or whatever. And it's funny because you've been fighting for me, girl.
Starting point is 00:02:16 I make videos for me all the time, and I'm so happy about it. I don't have many men fighting for me, you know what I mean? People are like, oh, you're such a fan. And I was like, you bet your ass I am. Is that supposed to offend me? Like, yes, I am. Well, also, like, I feel like it's important, especially to hear. hear from other Samoan creators
Starting point is 00:02:35 that we're fighting for each other because we were talking to be before this and we were talking about how like we can handle our own problems internally but nobody else is allowed to come in here and talk about us I'll tell you that much. Insiders versus outsiders that's what I'm saying and there's
Starting point is 00:02:51 so few of us that's not fair I know like I try to ride for every Samoan creator that I can there are some that I'm like that's worthy of being ridden for let's clarify there are some bad I know I've dragged a few myself. And so have I.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Yes. What did you do before TikTok? Figuring out my life. Really? Yeah, I mean like... Wait, how old are you? I turn 28 on the 20th. So next week I turn 28.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Okay, so you're only a year older than me. I'm 27. I just turned 27. Yeah, we're so old. In TikTok years? We're ancient. They called us old millennials. I find that disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I get it. That there's like a stark con- between Gen Z and millennials, but it's not like... I will... Is there because, you know what I mean? We're out here. You know what I mean? Well, there is a big difference, but I will say this.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Some millennials are, like, in their mid-30s. Those are the ones they're comparing us to. There's a big difference between us and them. Yeah. Have you seen those videos about, like, the millennial pause? Have you heard those? My God. I saw Tephy.
Starting point is 00:04:00 She talked about it in a video recently, but I've seen a lot of other people talk about it. I don't do that. Do you do that? I don't think I do. Me either. I think I'm pretty self-aware. I don't think I do it.
Starting point is 00:04:08 The way I'm constantly trying to differentiate myself. I'm like, don't lump me with them. I'm different, I swear. I've actually made fun of older dudes. Like, when I've dragged old dudes, I once made a video that recently got taken down, which is, it's so old. It's like a year old.
Starting point is 00:04:22 But it was literally, I was saying the most embarrassing part of his video was that he was like holding it up and recording and he was going, anyways, like that, that like pause. Like, you don't know when the videos started and you don't know how to go back and edit it. so you just post it. You know what I mean? It's awkward for everybody. It is.
Starting point is 00:04:38 It's not enjoyable. Anyways. The point of my rant is basically that we're not old millennials, but we are both someone, and I love that for us. I couldn't agree more. You do a lot of videos on cultural appropriation, which is what we're going to be talking about today. That's our topic for today.
Starting point is 00:04:56 But what are your thoughts on cultural appropriation first? Specifically for Polynesian culture. Oh, what a topic. I know. It's just there's a lot to unpack there. I think oftentimes when it comes to cultural appropriation for all of Pacific Islanders, not just Sarmourns. I think people brush it off, especially here in the States, because like from a percentage standpoint, we make up such a small part of the population. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:22 But it doesn't make it any less important. No, literally. Like so many of us are affected by it. Yeah. And I can't stand to see people just brush it off, which is kind of how my platform took off. that I really just started talking about those things and people started listening. Yeah, and they, sometimes they get real mad. I mean, obviously, like, especially, like, racist white people are obviously going to get mad
Starting point is 00:05:45 when you tell them like, hey, that's not nice. And they're like, oh, you're oppressing me. So I think that's, like, so true in the sense that there's so little knowledge about Pacific Islander culture in general that they, like, they genuinely think it's just all silly goofs all the time like who cares like moana was a blessing and a curse i'll say that same thing with aquaman like for me that was hell on earth when that movie dropped you know i do not wish to ever go back to that time with my uh boyfriend especially because i feel like i don't know there's like also a big fetish thing which i talked about with crit too when he was on my show especially of um someone men being like
Starting point is 00:06:30 big and like strong and whatever weirdo they love to do shit like that like so when they I guess when you give him an inch they take a mile no yeah absolutely right and like yeah it's really gross
Starting point is 00:06:43 seeing how fetishized we are as people like um like for instance like with like Tahitian dancing you know it's a lot of the it's a lot of the hips it's a lot of the booty but I never I don't think I ever looked at it growing up and was like that's hot you know like
Starting point is 00:06:58 oh look at that technique like good for you girls And, like, other people are just over here saying the most. I love a good fat off. I'll tell you that much. Big fan. Yeah, but it's not sexual and it's very nature. Just like Hula. Like, Hula's been over-sexualized and colonized severely to the point where they do the, like, coconut bra and the little grass skirt.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And, like, none of those things are culturally accurate or even, like, practical. That's just, it's, the whole thing is just so shitty. The plastic flower layers are so tacky. I know. It never looks good. either. Like, if you're going to appropriate, at least put some energy behind it. Some money. Like, pay that few extra dollars
Starting point is 00:07:36 for the real flowers and Google how to make your own necklace, I guess. I know, like, a good candy lay. They love that too. Have you ever, obviously. But, like, when people graduate from high school college, they get laid. So they get all the candy lace and they, like, cover your whole head.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And they eat that shit up. White people love watching that. They love taking pictures of you, and they're not even in your family. They're like, oh my God, what you can make? You know, all the kids on the side, like, mom, I'm right here. They're like, they got their one purple lay. That's all. It's okay. But I like, I made a video about that. I think sometime last year just telling them, like, hey, like, just so you know, this is where it comes from. Yeah. Like, there are plenty of cultures that do like, you know, flower lays and candy lays. But like, in the U.S.,
Starting point is 00:08:21 that is our influence as Pacific Islanders. Yeah. And there was like pushback against that. Like, people were like, it's an American thing, this and that. And I was like, it's Like, how did you get to that point? Like, what do you mean? American culture is colonization. It is. And that's it, babe. You know you guys get mashed potatoes?
Starting point is 00:08:39 And not even, because that's Irish. That's Irish. And they came here too. So, you know what I mean? Like, what do you guys get? White supremacy? That's what you get. That's your, that's your culture.
Starting point is 00:08:49 You go ahead and you keep that. You know, it's so funny. My boyfriend is, his name is Peeley, right? Everyone calls him Billy, like, for the most part. But he's trying to go by Peeley now. because that's his government name, his cultural name. And I feel like in the years we've been together especially, we talk a lot about reclaiming stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:09 So, like, for example, like, you have a last name that's very similar to mine and the spelling and everything. But I love when people ask me, how do you say your last name? Because I hate when they purposely mispronounce it. It's a microaggression, first of all. Just like the white men have coined, like, Buffalo for me as my last name. And I'm like, wrong indigenous culture, babe. wrong one babe
Starting point is 00:09:30 pick the wrong one it's like I really don't think that they know like it's racist and no matter how many times we say it though you've said it multiple times I've even said it
Starting point is 00:09:39 it's racist and it's like we put so much respect on our last names absolutely like anytime I'm like y'all can come from me you can come for stancing do what you got to do
Starting point is 00:09:48 but the moment you say afore like yeah same they hold a lot of power our names in our cultures I think in a lot of indigenous culture and my boyfriend's like
Starting point is 00:09:58 going by Peely now, like for the most part, like people in our families, he doesn't care if they call him Billy, because it's still technically his name, it's a nickname. But he's introducing himself as Pele. So he posted like his first TikTok the other day. It's a little thirst trappy. You saw it? It came up on my four you page. I love that for him. Look at him. And he made the caption like, this is a Drew stand account, just to make it very clear who he is and where he lands. I'm all, you could very easily end up on the wrong side. And you get a bunch of the dudes who hate me being like, you look so good, he looked so big. But some dude was like, I hate your caption, something like that.
Starting point is 00:10:32 His name was Cade. I'm going to let the audience guess what race he was. Let that settle in. What race he was. But anyways, he said, anyone with the name Cade doesn't have an opinion here. That's what he said. And this guy said, this is coming. You said this is an uncommon name as if Peeley isn't.
Starting point is 00:10:49 He started making fun of his name. And I was like, someone said, that's racist. And he was like, well, you're talking about it like it's uncommon. and my name's uncommon too. I said, he didn't say it's uncommon and he said it sucks. That's what he said.
Starting point is 00:11:01 He said, your name is stupid. That's what he said. This bitch really tried to say that his name holds more cultural value than my boyfriend's name, which is Peely. Did he elaborate?
Starting point is 00:11:12 No, that's all he said. Just got to take his word for it, I guess. Someone literally commented and they said, I looked it up and the origin says something that's round or barrel-like. Nice culture.
Starting point is 00:11:24 That's what I'm saying. The girls will eat you up. Like, they will eat you up. Sometimes I tell people, don't let people find out that you don't like me. Don't let people find out. The girls are going to each. If you hate me, keep it up here. Keep it up here.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Keep it off the line. Especially if your name is Kate. Especially if your name means round, rotund. Like, what a stupid fucking name. I couldn't believe that he was like, mine holds way more culture. I'm like, what culture? White. Was it like a blink profile or was it like?
Starting point is 00:11:55 No, it was someone with. like it was a white dude and then someone literally wrote pelee is like cultural your name means your mom puts raisins in her potato salad and i was like that's your culture you know he wanted attention um he got it and you got it and i hope you're happy with it honestly i hope you are you do a lot of clapbacks too though i just like me i do um a lot of them get taken down same same same same But you know, if they stay up for a few days, gain some momentum. Yeah. Make sure I see some shares on there.
Starting point is 00:12:31 What do you think is like the biggest thing you get hate for? Everybody gets hate. My hate's like out of this world crazy. But like what would you say you mostly get pushed back from? Is it when you're talking about cultural appropriation? Is it when you're clapping back? Yeah, I would say it's when I'm talking about cultural appropriation or when I'm dressing other salmones on issues. Some of them will try and make, Samoans and non-Slemon's like will try to make a,
Starting point is 00:12:55 dig at me the fact that I'm queer. Like I remember there was this this lady who was like 45, the Samoan lady who like was like you're just mad because you're not a true Fafi Fingi Samo which that's like a transgender woman in our culture She's like you're upset like this and that
Starting point is 00:13:11 And I was like well and I don't know if that's supposed to be a dig or what But I was like But what? But I've had a lot of like little things like that Yeah I was like you're ass like do better Like go to hell Go to hell bitch
Starting point is 00:13:25 That's so insane That doesn't make any sense That's not even an insult You know what I mean You're just mad because you're not It's like you're just mad because the sky's not red What? I wouldn't say I am but okay
Starting point is 00:13:40 That's okay She was one of those people who just like Get off When people respond And when I realized that I was like oh Okay well we'll just leave it at that That's why I leave picnies alone A lot of times
Starting point is 00:13:51 If I address them it'll be like On Twitter or like in comments or something, but it's just never worth it to me because I'm not, first of all, I'm not here to tear down the girls. I'm only here to tear down men exclusively, and that's how it will always be. But also, I just feel like, I just feel like they're relentless in that sense. Like, they'll never stop. And it's just like, it's a never ending cycle if you, if you open up that door with, like, picnies or someone who wants attention. So, like, with certain people. There are certain men, I leave alone too, because purely because I know for a fact they're
Starting point is 00:14:24 waiting for me so that they can do something and they can you know what I mean I always say like if your biggest videos are you talking shit about me that means you need me to do well sounds like you're the only useless bitch in this relationship huh no real shit though like they need you yeah they need they need to put my name in a thumbnail or something in order for them to get a lot of views you're welcome that makes sense to me though my guess would have been cultural appropriation they really don't like when you talk about that they don't It's like I dragged this Australian dude pretty recently and he was talking about he was saying like, is it even okay to be white anymore? And I was like, shut the shit.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Is that a serious question? I mean, for real. Look me in the eyes and be for real. For one second. Is it okay to be the one thing that's always been okay? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:16 And I was like, you know how it's, I was like, you know what's crazy is it's actually so okay because he was Australian. So I was like, it's so okay to be white there that when, like, your ancestors severely colonize that continent so much so that when people think Australian, man, they think of a white dude. They don't think of Aboriginal people who are the original inhabitants of that land. 100%. And your people really took over. That's called colonization, babe. That's like, yeah, it's okay. Your ancestors made sure it was okay.
Starting point is 00:15:49 That whole trying to play the victim card thing. It was like your answer to just made sure it was okay to be white, especially there. You're good. What a mess. Don't worry about it. They really hate when you talk about stuff like that. They do. Especially appropriation.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah, especially appropriation, especially like, you know, our tattooing practices. That's the big one. Don't get me started. My clip for Crits show that I posted on TikTok was literally talking about, like, tribal, tribal tattoos. And I was like saying like just because you're someone adjacent doesn't make it okay. You got a foot in the world doesn't mean you're us. I'm just like, why do you need more?
Starting point is 00:16:32 You're always trying to take more. Be grateful you are surrounded with Samoans. Is that not enough? Yeah. It's not enough? You're welcome. I think it's so, ugh. Oh, the tribal tattoo thing makes me so irate.
Starting point is 00:16:46 You know what's so funny? I had someone, I talked to someone recently. and he was telling me you made it cool to be a a Polynesian girl and I was like what are you talking about and he was basically in essence saying that there are some people who like
Starting point is 00:17:01 you know those people they cling on to that like one 12th native Hawaiian they cling on to that bitch like their name's been Jenna their whole life and all of a sudden it's Kaylani it's Leilani you know what I mean Lehuah it's oh my god and then like all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:17:18 and he was saying because I think there's more representation. They have someone like you, they have me. They have like, who else? The rock. Just the three of us. And Jason Mawa. Just us four.
Starting point is 00:17:32 And he was basically like now they really, really want to be closer to their culture, which I guess is a good thing. I think it's always a good thing. But I also think too that like there is a line to be drawn. Like especially if you're, if you feel distanced a little bit from your culture. I think there's a way to bridge that gap without, overstepping because if you are white like white like white presenting and everything then I feel like
Starting point is 00:17:55 there's like a little bit of a disconnect there for people I agree I think you have a really valid point especially when you're trying to bridge that grab I are that gap like I encourage people to do it yeah but you don't just get to wake up one day and be like I am 100% this everything like you don't yeah like a lot of our cultures in the Pacific are thousands of years old yeah there's so many different nuances to it especially with the idea identity just here in the States or in the diaspora or back home. Yeah. There's a lot to learn there.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Yeah, absolutely. I think, too, what I think is kind of like hat on a hat with people like that is that they're always the ones kind of giving the pass to do things that you probably shouldn't. So like getting tribal when like telling your white partner, it's okay to get tribal. Like, no. You know what I mean? When I posted that clip, lots of people were literally saying like, why aren't you saying that to their someone
Starting point is 00:18:51 husband or there's someone boyfriend that says it's okay for them to do that. I'm like, I'm talking to all of you. All of you knock it off. That's what I'm saying. All of you stop is what I'm saying. If you have to ask, like, is this okay for me to get the answers?
Starting point is 00:19:04 No. You know what I mean? Like, if you're not someone, don't get someone tattoos, you could literally get anything else in the world. Literally. Anything. You could tattoo an egg on your leg.
Starting point is 00:19:15 If you really wanted to, you could write the word poop on your leg. if you really wanted to, you could get anything. I just saw this video of this white guy who got hot dog tattooed on his forehead. And I was like, see that? That's white as shit. Get that tattooed. Go ahead and take that to the bank, bitch.
Starting point is 00:19:33 You can have that one. I met this girl at a campfire like two summers ago and super sweet white girl. She was talking about me, she was like, yeah, like my ex is white. He got a Samoan tribal style, Tyrannosaurus Rex tattooed on his back. He said, because I played football with Samoans. Like, I felt like, if you played football anywhere on the western half of this country, you played football with Samo's. Yeah, where did dinosaurs come in and that? Why are they there?
Starting point is 00:20:00 It was like, good luck with that for the rest of your life. Yeah, you're like, you went to bed with that. That's on you, girl. That's a big one. They're like, oh, my friends are someone. Okay. Congrats. Yeah, that's what you're like, if you play football with.
Starting point is 00:20:17 anywhere here in America yeah chances are you might at least one at least one someone and I was like dude that makes my ass it a tribal dinosaur what dinosaur oh it was a T-Rex and I was just like
Starting point is 00:20:32 you know I'll give you a point or two for creativity I guess I'd love to see it I don't want to see it I'd be better off not oh my God I wonder if a someone person gave that to him if it was like free-handed by someone that's not someone. I'm curious to know.
Starting point is 00:20:50 You know, my tattoo artist is also like, he's tattooed my whole family. And he's obviously someone, but he's my dad's cousin. And so when he's like tattooed us, he's talked about how like he's had non-sumon people come to him. Because he can do anything, but he obviously specializes in tribal. So for specifically someone tribal.
Starting point is 00:21:11 So he can do other types of tribal too. Like he's done Filipino tribal. He's done like Guamanian tribal. tribal. He's like, I can do all kinds of trouble, but sometimes I'll have non-sumwin people come and they only want someone trouble. And he's like, I have to ask them a lot of questions, why do you want to get this? Like, what's the meaning behind it? Like, even though you're not someone, why do you feel connected to this? Like, he almost like makes, he almost makes them talk themselves out of it sometimes, which I was like, that's cool. I mean, I think
Starting point is 00:21:36 that's cool. I don't want to get in front of your bag, but I think that's cool. No, I think that's really awesome that he does not. Because, you know, what are reasonings that people say, like, oh, I was in the military, stationed in Hawaii. Oh, my God. And, Hawaii. I know, I went to college in Hawaii, so the amount of Marines I saw with, like, it's always in a circle. It's always in a, you know, Jacob Black's tattoo in, in Twilight? Like, speak about someone who's not indigenous. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Girl, let's talk about that, bitch. But, like, he has, like, this, like, circle and it's, like, it's like something they all get when they turn into the wolves. Why is it always like that for all Marines stationed in, at Pearl Harbor? I don't know. Maybe the tattoo artist there made like an agreement. It's just a stamp at this point. It's a sensal because he's like, I'm so sick of these holes coming to me. Oh my God. That's so funny. Okay, let's get into this topic since we're on.
Starting point is 00:22:30 We're very much on topic today. I'm so proud of us. Look at us. Okay, we're going to talk about culture appropriation specifically of Pacific Island culture today. So for those of you who don't know what we do here on the comment section is we bring videos that are applicable to our topic. We bring them here. And then we dissect them, rip them apart, laugh, giggle, all the tea. So this first video that I have, I just like to give a little descriptions of them.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Basically, in this video, a woman is doing a double take and pretending to clean her glasses. And when she puts them back on with the caption, when I see that someone who's not Polly got a Polly tribal tattoo. And immediately funny. hilarious. I'm with you. I probably would have given that a little like if I had seen it myself. So the comments on this, this first one says, girl, they be like, then stop using your fun. in cars and houses, that's white culture.
Starting point is 00:23:18 This is bitch, none of that shit is culturally safe. But also, like, how do you know all those things were created by white people? They weren't. Hello, argument shot in the face, bitch, immediately. Yeah, like, when they, it's the same thing with hair.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Like, when they appropriate black culture and they do box braids or something that's not, first of all, not for their hair type at all, but then also not culturally significant to them. And they're like, well, then you need to stop. straightening your hair on all. Do you guys know how genetics work? Like even a little bit? Like, I know you all went to biology to some degree because you're in your 30s. So you had to have done some sort of schooling at some point. Like, what a stupid thing to say? They must have skipped class. Like, I don't, it's so funny to me because I'm like, honey, look at a tag on anything we buy in the U.S. Made in another country, except for what? Like the stuffed animals in the claw machine. Maybe those.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And what are those? Bad quality. There you go. There you go. Well, and then I really don't like seeing. I'll go on record. I've said it before. I don't like seeing non-Polyesian people with Polynesian tattoos. I just think it's, first of all, it's cultural appropriation, which is therefore racist. But then at the same time, it's like, get your own shit. Don't you have everything else?
Starting point is 00:24:37 You know what I mean? Don't you have literally everything else? It's kind of in the same vein, but not really as like how lots of, there have been lots of black creators who have talked about, like, stop using A-A-A-V-E. for obvious reasons, but also, like, they're saying, you have so many great white sayings. My sister and I were just talking about those. What's your favorite white saying?
Starting point is 00:24:55 When they're, like, fed up, they say, this is one of mine. That's rich. That one hits so hard. I was thinking, like, old white people, like, dangnab it. I love a good, like, a white saying. I say this one with my boyfriend all the time. We always laugh about it, but, like, when you get to the restaurant, right? Like, let's say it's really crowded.
Starting point is 00:25:21 to go eat. Like chilies, what's white, chilies, apples bees. You go in the parking lot and then right when you're pulling in, someone pulls out of a front row. And then they say, it's like they knew we were coming. You go in the restaurant, it's, like, no one's really in there. Then you put your name in, and then a bunch of people coming behind you,
Starting point is 00:25:42 and they're like, man, we came at the perfect time. We beat the line. Those are why, you can have those. Frolick, run free with those. Those are so great. I literally, one time, I got well this like this lady that I didn't know she was like yelling at me
Starting point is 00:25:59 that's another story but she was like a houseless person but that's neither here nor there but I was living in Hawaii at the time and she was literally screaming at me and I was trying to ignore her and this guy was like he was just like shut the fuck up whatever this white guy this older white dude and then she was like fuck you right yelling back at him and then he goes in your dreams sister
Starting point is 00:26:19 such a white thing to say But that delivery was hard. Yeah, and he's in your dream, sister. And when he said that, I said, damn, he kind of ate you up with that girl. You might want to take that out of it. You better get him back. Me personally, I wouldn't take that. It's in the same vein.
Starting point is 00:26:43 I'm like, you guys have so many things. Raisins and potato salad. You have so many things. So many things. Well, you know what's another super white thing? Cranberry. At Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving dinner.
Starting point is 00:26:54 The shit that comes out of the can. You're like, but bitch, I've never seen that in my life ever. I've never seen it in real life. The first Thanksgiving I spent with my boyfriend's family, because his mom is white. First thing, that's, there's two of those on the table and I said, what the fuck is that? And he was like, that's the best part of the meal, no more. Huh? I, uh, I got to, I grew up having Thanksgiving with my white side and that canned cranberry sauce was there.
Starting point is 00:27:21 That's what I mean? But it's such a white thing. It's very white. It's so white. Sometimes you're like white people shit in a good way and some people you're like that's white people shit in a bad way It's okay There's nothing there's nothing offensive about that It's just matter of fact
Starting point is 00:27:36 Take it up with your ancestors I don't know why you do people I don't know why old people do shit like that Okay this next comment says if I'm paying and it looks straight I don't really care what it means For the tattoo Yeah Go to hell Yeah Well no shit you don't care because it's not yours That's the problem is you don't
Starting point is 00:27:55 care. That's literally you don't care. It's the same thing as when people get like Chinese characters tattooed on them. Why? When you're not Chinese and a lot of times or like Japanese characters Kanji or whatever a lot of times it doesn't even say what they think it says. So it's extra embarrassing. What's the point? Didn't Ariana Grande get like a two on her finger? It's a tiny barbecue. And they ate her up for it as they should like listen I like Ariana Grande. Like The music is fired. But, like, why would you do that? And there's a great example as to, you know, stay in your lane.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Yeah. Stay in your lane. You know, you can never go wrong with staying in your lane. No one's ever going to penalize you for staying in your lane. You know what I mean? An ice anchor tattoo or. Yeah, like a heart that says mom on it. I dig it.
Starting point is 00:28:45 I love it. That's cute. Well, you know, they also like to get, like, little things tattooed on them. Like, like little cats or little frogs or mushrooms or something like that. That's cute. That's cute. Keep that. Go ahead and keep that.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I won't ask you for it. Yeah, I'm not going to ask you for it. Don't come ask you for mine. I think even too, like even like mine, like sometimes I'll show like when you see my tattoo and my videos or whatever, people will say like, oh, is that Hena? And I'm like, no. And it doesn't even look like Hena. Not at all. But that's why I'm saying like it doesn't look anything alike, but it's just something you're unfamiliar with.
Starting point is 00:29:24 So I tell them no, it's not Hena. And they're like, oh, like, one time a dude literally, like you could see my tattoo in like a glam pick or something. And he was like, this stupid bitch has the map to Treasure Island on her hand. Some shit like that. And I was like, this is Malu, which is for chiefly women in Samoa. And I said, but racism is always funny. I'm so glad you put this.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Oh, piece of shit. Yeah. I'd love to say something funny about go fuck yourself. No, literally. Also, too, I got it on my, I just really wanted tribal on my hand, I think, so you could see it all the time. But I got it on my left hand specifically because some people are like, what about when you get married? What about it? I'm marrying a someone man.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Guess what? His left hand's tattoo too, bitch. So I figure in my wedding photos, it'll look really pretty because we're both someone anyway. So I'm like, period. Okay, come through wedding photos? Yeah, look at me, planning. And he did that too, so tea. No, I love it.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I also, I love it when people get it and place. as you can see it, like visible areas. I think it's really important for it to be seeing. That's what I think too. And that's why I was like super committed to getting it on my hand as well as him. Because he, my boyfriend has like the whole sleeve or whatever, but it comes down to here. But it's all someone tribal done by someone artist, which I think is a really cool thing too. And that's why I'm like, if you are not someone, don't get one.
Starting point is 00:30:47 They're like, what if I, what would you say to, no. Every time. Every time they ask me, no. Close the door there. And that's a full sentence, and you don't need a reason why. Just don't. Just don't do it. This next comment says, what if I'm black and I've been around them my whole life and know the meaning?
Starting point is 00:31:08 No. It goes back to what we were saying. I'm so happy you got to be around Samoans your whole life. That's a blessing in itself. Don't take more. Leave it at that. What more do you want? What do you want?
Starting point is 00:31:22 You're welcome. That's what you're. You want more than. that? How could you get any better than the best? There you go. I tell people who say that kind of shit, like I'm like,
Starting point is 00:31:30 have you tried, like, learn the language, learn how to cook some of our cuisines. Like, take up Siva Samo, Osama and dancing. Yeah. Do those things. There's so many other ways to experience a culture that are open practices like that.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Like, have at it, bud. No, literally. You know, it's what was kind of cool, though, on the flip side of when I posted my clip with crit about, like, tattoos and stuff. I had like some, some, like, moms. They commented and said, like, basically that their child's dad is someone, but they're not. And their dad's no longer in their life.
Starting point is 00:32:05 So they said, like, how do I connect my child to, like, someone culture, even though I'm kind of cut off from his family, like, we don't talk anymore. And I think those are great questions to ask, like, a lot of times. So I just, like, advise them to seek community. Like you said, Sivasamwa, there are many Polynesian dance groups that you could, like, put your baby in to kind of maybe interact with other parents that are someone other parents that are Pacific Islander whatever they may be that way you can expose your child to culture without taking up the mantle you know what I mean like it doesn't have to be you who teaches them from your own lived experience because if you're not someone then you don't know what it feels like to
Starting point is 00:32:43 be someone so I always think that's really cool when they're open to like criticism in that sense or not I guess not criticism but they're open to like learning and being put in the right push in the right direction. So I would say like seek out someone creators like Stanson and for example or crit even who talk a lot about culture and you know what I mean? That way you can learn without being the poster child for it. Yeah. That's what I've said. I mean it can be like a very vulnerable position to be in as a mother. Yeah. To connect your child to their culture that's not yours. Yeah, exactly. And I get those questions too and I'm like I'm like thank you so much because this child deserves to be connected to their culture. Yeah. Sometimes I'll say take them to church. Samo and church.
Starting point is 00:33:23 It's a great one. Just because community. I was like, even if you're not, you know, a believer or whatever. Yeah. The community. Yeah. And you'll meet other people and they can mingle and kind of like learn and you can learn too. I think that's a great thing.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I think it's really great when they're open to learning. But that's why this is very different where you're just like around them a lot and you vibe and you like them. I think that's a great thing. Who doesn't love someone people? Right. They're so much fun. But no. but no
Starting point is 00:33:54 and that's it yeah and that's simply that like we don't need to discuss it any further it's the same thing where it's like you shouldn't when someone tells you it makes them uncomfortable or it's inappropriate to do your question shouldn't be like well I want to do it though
Starting point is 00:34:11 like your rebuttal shouldn't be like but I want it okay and it's crazy like the sheer volume of people who ask questions like that I get those comments all the time and I'm My response is always like, I would like you to write a 10-page paper first on all the reasons Samoans don't want you to get a tattoo. Yeah. And maybe get that through your head first. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Because they're always looking for like this confirmation bias or whatever. Or a loophole. Yeah. Of like, well, this person said that I could. And I was like, I don't give a . Then why did you ask me? Yeah. Like, what was the point of asking?
Starting point is 00:34:45 Well, it's like, why do you really want to know why you shouldn't or are you just trying to like make yourself feel better because you're already planning on? doing it. Like if you've made up your mind, I'm not going to change it, but I'm also not going to support it. I'm not going to endorse you for it. I'm like, well, he said he's going to do it regardless, so I'm okay with it. Girl. Well, it's like, then they try to act like you're just going to be like losing sleep at night. If they go do it. I was like, yeah, exactly, exactly. No, I'm going to sleep just fine. Yeah. You asked for my opinion and I gave it. Yeah, that's exactly. They're like, oh, well, what are you going to do? Nothing. I'm not going to do anything about it, literally at all, because I don't care about you and I don't know you.
Starting point is 00:35:22 And I know any Samoan that you run into throughout your life is going to be questioned for the rest of your life, honey. The rest of your life. No, literally. And also like, no, when they said, I've been around them my whole life and I know the meaning. That's a lie. A lot of times I'll let you go on a little trade secret
Starting point is 00:35:38 there is no meaning. It's just tribal. It just looks nice. Like, that's a T. And that's not for everyone. I'm saying most of the time, especially in modern times it doesn't really mean anything. They'll tell you a whole story though. Sometimes if you ask someone,
Starting point is 00:35:55 someone people love to joke. One thing about us, we love to prank. We should. We love to joke. We love to prank. So they'll convince you of this long story. They'll tell you the plot of Moana that just changed the names. And they're like, that's me.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Elaborate. That's what this means. And then you guys eat it up. You know why? Because you don't know. You don't know anything about it. Therefore, you're not allowed to get it. Signed me and Stanton.
Starting point is 00:36:21 And Stanton. Co-signed by us. That's a bill that both of us wrote together. I think too, like, this is off topic, but not really. About someone culture, a big part of it is how much we love to laugh and joke around, right? And my laugh is obviously, I say laugh and I was like, you mean cackle. Whatever, bitch. It pays the bill.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Mine pays the bills. Does yours? I didn't think so. But that's besides the point. I am not, that laugh is not exclusive to me. Oh my God. I've said that so many times. I'm like, my laugh is very someone.
Starting point is 00:36:55 That's arguably the most someone part about me besides my facial features is literally my laugh. We all laugh the same. Me too. It's the what the hyena laugh. Yeah, it's literally a cackle. It's so loud and piercing. My whole family laughs like that. I agree.
Starting point is 00:37:08 People are like, we'll talk about your laugh. And I'm like, you realize like, I laugh like that too. And they're like, I've never heard you do that. And I was like, well, see, I code switch. You know, you have your white person. laugh. Yeah, I'm like, it's like a chuckle, that's like how normal
Starting point is 00:37:24 people laugh. I've done that. Yeah. When you're like, oh, ha, ha, ha. Oh, my God. That's a white person laugh. Yeah. I do that all the time. I did that when I worked nine to five. When you're on the phone, you got to sound like, yeah, exactly. Oh, hilarious. Yeah. God, you're so funny.
Starting point is 00:37:39 You're crazy, girl. That's such a, uh, my laugh is so someone. That's why sometimes I'll get tagged in videos. of other someone people joking around or laughing, like doing silly things and someone's laughing
Starting point is 00:37:53 and they're like, that sounds like Drew and it's a man. But you can see the person laughing. That's clearly not me, but you know. A lot of people like I'll let out my laugh sometimes on my content and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:38:05 you sound just like Drew and I'm like love. It's an Islander thing. Yeah, that's what I've said that. I've been tagged in other someone people's things too when they're like, oh, are you copying Drew's laugh? I'm like, no.
Starting point is 00:38:16 That laugh is, is not exclusive to me is what I will say. We're loud and boisterous when we laugh. That's why I'm like convinced someone should do a study on this, but I'm convinced that's why we're all so funny because we make fun of each other so severely all the time and we laugh like that. Can you imagine getting laughed like that?
Starting point is 00:38:37 You know what I'm saying? When I was younger, I could never take a joke because my family and my mom would make jokes about me all the time. They're silly jokes. They're not like pointed or me. But they would make silly jokes about me And they all would laugh in unison And it would upset me
Starting point is 00:38:54 It would enrage me And my mom was like, you gotta learn to take a joke Or she would say, nobody joke withdrew anymore She can't take a joke So nobody joke with Drew anymore And then I'd get FOMO Can't have that Baby steps
Starting point is 00:39:06 Yeah baby steps Reenter the pool Yeah like because sometimes Sometimes I see the rock laugh And I'm like, I'm trying to hear that real laugh Right Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:39:16 That Maui laugh. I'm trying to hear the real thing. I bet you it's high-pitched and piercing just like mine and Stansans. I agree. Like, there's no way. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's no way. There's no way, man.
Starting point is 00:39:33 We'll get to the bottom of this. You know what? When we all kiki together, we'll hear it. We'll report back. If I hear the real someone laugh, I'll tell you guys. I'll let you guys know. All right, Dwayne. Dwayne, prove me wrong.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Honestly, hey, if I'm wrong, come on the show and show me. What's what I'm saying? Consider that a challenge, buddy. Okay, let's move on to this next video. So this next video is a woman is responding to an Instagram post of another woman, she who is not Pacific Islander, dressing in a grass skirt, a lay, a floral headpiece, etc for Halloween and made a video posing sexually with a caption, put me on your dashboard.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Like a hula girl. It says the women making the video talks about how minimizing and sexualizing her culture is an example of cultural appropriation. T. It's ridiculous. Well, first off, I saw that video. Did you? Yeah, and my first reaction was like, how about this, honey? You put on that costume.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Instead of me putting you on the dashboard, I'll put you on the roof of the car, and then I'll floor it down the freeway. Let's start there. How about that? And then go with God at that point. You know what I mean? Whatever happens happens. It's out of my control. It's just like...
Starting point is 00:40:45 And they always call it a costume. Like, it's just a costume. It's just a costume. It's not. No, it's really not. It's not a costume. Well, it's the same, it's in the same vein as, like, when people wear Native American, like, headpieces or anything like that as a costume. That's why my culture is not your costume is, like, the whole thing. Same thing with, like, Cinco de Mile.
Starting point is 00:41:05 When they wear sombrows and ponchos and they're like, huh, Cinco de Drinko. Throw in the trash. Put that on the car and I'll drive. You know what I mean? Put it all up there at the same time and all that's just like that goes back into what we were talking about
Starting point is 00:41:21 before of just like just the hyper culture is being hypersexualized All the time All of our cultures in the Pacific It's like Which is you know And this is T
Starting point is 00:41:30 But they that's obviously Native Hawaiian culture That they're appropriating Which is different from someone culture But these ding bats Can't tell the difference They all think we're the same
Starting point is 00:41:37 However When they put us in these kind of buckets If you look at the way someone women are characterized. A lot of times they're masculineized. It's like the complete opposite. They're not hypersexualized in that way. They're over-masculinized. And then like it's this very like rampant like
Starting point is 00:41:56 it's misogyny essentially is what it is. But it's so like did you ever see like when Moana was first announced and they had pictures of like it was like the the two characters. It was Moana and Maui. And they swapped them. Do you remember that? And they were like this is more accurate. Sometimes when I tell people that they don't remember But like someone people do because it was circulating in our circles a lot And they were like ha ha ha ha ha ha this is more accurate And I said see this is the difference between like how someone women are characterized Versus other Pacific Islander cultures but none of those people can tell the difference anyways
Starting point is 00:42:31 Until it comes to shit like that and then they're like oh big fat lady That makes sense someone you know what I mean? Yeah it's fucking ridiculous I feel like I don't Samoan women to me are just are so feminine and from an outward perspective they're just,
Starting point is 00:42:48 some own people in general we're just bigger people That's what I said before We're just bigger people That doesn't mean that we're That are, you know, women or anybody Or any less feminine Yeah
Starting point is 00:42:56 And even then I'm always like feminine masculine shit is a byproduct of colonization anyways Like we never saw shit that way Literally at all You know what I mean? It wasn't It's always and it's always
Starting point is 00:43:09 So closely aligned to white supremac see like these beauty standards that they're enforcing on they like so strictly enforced on tongen and samuan women specifically they're always like oh they're so big and fat and gross or whatever however they characterize us but when it comes to like tahitian Hawaiian women they're very like hypersexualized which is a bad thing too they're just like two opposite ends of the spectrum but they always do that to me like they'll call me a man and shit like that and i'm like first of all i'm your dad so low your voice when you do you talk to me. First of all,
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Starting point is 00:44:17 But see, you're so tall. Like, Sanson is really tall. Sanson is taller than me, and I have really big platforms on, and I'm a tall bitch too. But that's so typical of us. Like, we're just so, okay, I'm just jumping all over the place. My brain is scattered because I'm so excited to have another song one person on the show.
Starting point is 00:44:32 But when I interviewed The Rock, a lot of people were like, I know you've told us a lot that you're large, like big. Like I always say I'm a big, big, I've always said that. And they're like, but seeing you stand next to the rock and you guys are like eye level, really put it into perspective for me. Because he looks like 6.9.
Starting point is 00:44:52 He looks massive. Yeah, but he's like 6.5, like realistically. Which is not small. Don't get me wrong. But for someone, people that's very average to us, we're like, oh, okay. Because my boyfriend's 6.4. My dad is 6.6. Yeah, I'm 6.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yeah, exactly. So like, you see what I mean? Like 6.5? We're like, oh. To a someone person, they're like, that's short of. than I thought he would be. I thought he would be like 6-9. But the guy who plays him in the young rock, he was there.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Right? Another someone, man, I forget his name. I'm so sorry. But he was like 6-11. Like, that dude was so tall. Are you serious? Yes. And you're like, call me.
Starting point is 00:45:28 I'm going to need to remember that name. You know what I'm looking about. That's what I'm going to show Samson. But that's a, you know, it's just like a random thing about like just the largesse of us. Like, we're just larger, bigger people. That's why we're so good at sports. Yeah. Did you play sports?
Starting point is 00:45:43 Oh, all of them. Yeah, obviously. Duh. What was your main one, volleyball? Well, they didn't have boys volleyball in high school, but I still play volleyball now competitively. But, you know, state champion and basketball, state champion, and track and field, multiple events. Period. My sisters were volleyball, softball, basketball.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Yeah. We did it all. I played football, too. Yeah. And you could take that to the bank, man. What did you play in football? I was a fullback. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Fast. Tall and fast. middle linebacker yeah period bitch i didn't play a some a typical someone sport i played soccer okay yeah which everyone's like that's the biggest soccer player i've ever seen in my life whenever i was on the field they were like who's that grown man get him off the field because everyone is so small who plays soccer everyone so small but i loved volleyball that was like my favorite sport when i started i didn't start playing volleyball until high school no no because i played soccer my whole life so i played i played travel ball so that's all i did
Starting point is 00:46:41 And so then when I went to high school and I was introduced to volleyball, I was like, this is so fun. Like, I love playing volleyball even now. If I see a volleyball, I make my sister pepper with me every single time. I'm like, get over there and play with me. It's so fun. It's so fun. You know, people back in the islands, like, love it too. You have like the dirt core.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Yeah. A string, a net. And then go out and play. That's why we're so, like, naturally athletic. I've done so many stories on that when I was in college about like someone football players. And like, that's also what we're always only known for. why I think you and I are so powerful as far as
Starting point is 00:47:14 representation goes because we're in a completely different sector. It's not solely reliance on physicality and like being good at sports because we already know we're good at sports. That's why when men tell me they're like, you should get back to the O line, they need you. I'm like, the hilarious part about that joke
Starting point is 00:47:30 is like I have more of a chance of making it than you do and that's the T-Bitch. In this outfit, I could go, I could walk on to USC and start, you know what I'm saying? It's a truth. They'd scout me for real. It's like these pipsqueak saying this to us.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And it's like, love. Just bring me my water. No, okay. I'd say that too if I was third string, babe. Okay, so let me get back to this video. Okay, so the hula girl, right? She said, put me on your dashboard. Okay, this first comment.
Starting point is 00:48:02 It says, you're acting like she cares. Just shut up. See, she doesn't care about it. Just leave her alone, weirdo. was that what? I'm like, do you need me for this conversation? Like, are you talking to me? Why would you?
Starting point is 00:48:18 This like comment too is so misspelled. There's like so many misspelled. Is that a coherent thought? I don't know. Sometimes I think people just like, it's almost like butt text, but they put it in comments. They're like, I'm just going to write it. No one's ever going to see it. I saw it and you're stupid.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Okay, next comment. Let's what the next one. It says it's a costume since one is wearing that costume. Wait, what? They didn't even finish that line. It's Halloween, you're soft, and you need to shut the hell up. See, that's a white guy. Sad.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Got him. That's a white person right there who wrote that. You need to shut the hell up. You know what else is kind of white, calling people a weirdo? That's super weirdo. You know what I mean? It sounds like Lizzie McGuire kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Yeah, like a super early 2000s when they're like, whatever major leader. Gordo, more like weirdo. See, the way they eat people up with those, stick to those, man. They hit every time. I can listen to them, are you all day? I know. It's so funny. That's rich.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Let's like, listen, buddy. When they say things like that. Bucko. Yeah, they say pal. What pits me off is when someone calls me bud. Like when a white person calls me bud, that shit. I'm like, you're about to eat me up. Not your bud.
Starting point is 00:49:46 They have the most like, they're just so, I guess like PG's when I'm thinking in my head. You know what I mean? Like they're so not like mean or pointed. They could be said in many different ways. But this is like their inflection and their tone. Well, for sure. It's like weirdo. Brady Bunch, leave it to the beaver.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Yeah. Loser. Like when you say things. like that? Oh man. Sometimes I say that to white dudes and they do not like that. They are not fans of those kinds of things or insults. Getting a taste of their own medicine.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Okay, this last comment says it's always the girls doing this dumb stuff saying, oh my God, stop, that's my culture. This is childish. I think I don't identify as a girl. I'm saying that shit all the time. I always say
Starting point is 00:50:35 this shit is stupid. Stop it. It is so, I also think too, I'm like, aren't you just embarrassed? Wouldn't you be embarrassed? Like, have you no shame? You know what I'm saying? Like, bring back being embarrassed. Let's bring it back. Let's bring back humiliating yourself and being like, oh my God, that was the most
Starting point is 00:50:53 embarrassing that's ever happened to me. It's like they're halfway there. They're doing the humiliating thing. It's just like they need the recognition. Yeah, but it's like, exactly. It's like they've been conditioned to never think that anything they do is bad or inappropriate so they're like this is fine so bad yeah and then when you tell them they're like what do you mean i've been doing this my whole life that's embarrassing what's the most embarrassing
Starting point is 00:51:13 that's ever happened to you i have a couple stories you go first well i think i think i well i have two i'll tell okay i'll tell one of them first when i was in like he just like getting so serious like i'm in therapy but this is also like on topic with being someone because it has to do with my mom in both stories she didn't do anything to me but she was obviously there okay so the first one I used to play the flute, right? Like, I was a bad bitch on the flute. Woodwinds, rise up. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:40 So I made honor band big deal when I was in like fifth grade. So I was, what, 10? Mind you, I was 5-4 at the time. That's just an ominous fact. I'm just putting that out there anyways. So I do my honor band. And when my name's Afuala, so like I'm like first and every time it's where you first and like every roll sheet, everything.
Starting point is 00:51:59 I was always like the first one. So he calls me and I get my honor band. It's a concert, right? And so for the concede you wear black pants white top. And so for the bottom is because I've always been an extra ass bitch. I wanted to wear my mom's like, they were like these velour like pants, like dance pants. And they were really flared on the bottom and like they were too long on me. And my mom was like, those are too long.
Starting point is 00:52:22 You shouldn't wear those. And I was like, lady, fashion before everything. You're already in your mind if you think I'm changing. She's like, well, at least roll them, right? And I go, that bunch is. And then you see the bunch under my white. shirt girl you're talking to me crazy so i wear that she's like okay so i wear the she lets me wear my outfit go he calls me i walk up to the front of the stage he puts the metal on me i'm like bad bitch
Starting point is 00:52:46 tings my mom takes a picture of me right i turn around bitch my whole puma because that's what i was got stuck in my pant leg i step down pull my pants to my ankles bitch to my ankles and that wasn't even the worst part. I literally fell like straight to my face. You know when you don't even have time to catch yourself? Straight to my face, head slams on the hardwood. There's floor mics because it's a concert. Do do, do, do, do, do, do. It's like echoes. Like Thor landed outside. And I'm laying face down, choney's out.
Starting point is 00:53:22 And I'm like, this is a bummer. You know, when you're almost, it's like so embarrassing that you like gaslight yourself into believing it didn't happen. That's what I did. Almost immediately. Pull my pants up, crawl back to my seat. I didn't even stand up. Crawled all the way back. I'm in the back. Like, I'm in like row 25. I crawled hands
Starting point is 00:53:42 and knees, bitch, back to my seat. Got up, my buddy who sat next to me the time. His name was Billy. What are the odds? But he was like, his name was William. He's super white. He, I come back, I sit in my seat. My face is red and I'm brown, so that's bad. And I'm like sweating, like dripping
Starting point is 00:53:58 sweat. And I sit in my chair and he's looking at me like this. With his flute, because he also played the flute. And then he goes, are you okay? And I go, yeah, why wouldn't I be instantly start gaslighting? I just gaslight everyone. I'm like, what? Did something of note happen recently that I should remember? That's the most embarrassing thing that happened to me. But after that happened, I go outside. First thing my mom says to me, I told you not to wear those pants. First thing she says to me. First and only thing she said to me. She didn't go, are you okay? And then everyone wonders why, why, why does hate not bother you?
Starting point is 00:54:29 That's why. She's like, you gotta learn. You know, like a someone mom. Nothing humbles you faster. Not even a little. Nothing humbles you faster. She was just watching you crawl. She was watching going,
Starting point is 00:54:43 you know when they suck their teeth? I told her not to wear those. She's telling her run on her. I told her not to. I told her not to wear those. I don't know what she was doing. Honestly, I wish I didn't remember that, but I remember it so clearly.
Starting point is 00:54:56 I remember what the room smelled like. That's how traumatizing it was for me. What's the most embarrassing thing that happened to you? I don't know if I can top that. I think about a lot of instances when I was very drunk. Mm. But I do have a specific memory from, I think I was six. It was our first time to Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Oh, yeah. Big Island. Yeah, yeah, yeah. First time experiencing. It's beautiful. Yeah. We were... What side did you stay on, Hilo or Kona?
Starting point is 00:55:22 We're on Kona side. Oh, yeah, same. Yeah. My auntie and uncle have, like, a place up on the volcano. Oh, cool. Love. Or they used to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:30 But we went down to the beach. And it was my first time experiencing, like, the waves in Hawaii. Different. It's open ocean waves. It's nothing compared to anything that you're going to find in the continental U.S. Not even a little. I was six years old going out there. Mine of my damn business.
Starting point is 00:55:48 And that wave completely just took me out. And I'm standing there. But ass naked. You lost your bottom? Yeah. They were gone. That's how rough the waves were? Yeah, at least it was that and not me swept out the seat.
Starting point is 00:56:06 But I was like, sitting there crying because, like, what am I? I'm six. Like, I don't, I'm not emotionally capable of handling this. Everybody on the beach laughing because it's like, oh, how bad looks like kid. The traumatized kid. And you're just like a little too old for it to be cute. You come up and they're like, oh. That's not that bad.
Starting point is 00:56:26 But that is pretty, actually, that's pretty embarrassing. Yeah, and it was like day one or two of Hawaii. So my ass was how. Ella white. I didn't even get a chance to even out. These cheeks don't see the sun. Oh my God. That's so.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Dude, in Hawaii, the way that they like, they warn you not to swim there if you're not, like a local, if you're not a strong, like an Olympic swimmer bitch. Like, I, even when I lived, I lived there for like five years. I literally was like, there are certain beaches I will not swim at because I just don't trust that I have the capacity to not, I don't know, drown, I guess.
Starting point is 00:57:02 People don't understand the Moana is so strong. It is. It's crazy, especially during certain seasons. Like winter time especially, it's really, really bad. This is so funny. It was just a random Hawaii story. But the last time I was in Hawaii, my whole family was there, and we were at the beach. We're, like, at our favorite beach. And it's super nice day, like, really calm waves.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Because, you know, if you go in the springtime, that's, like, the best time to go and swim. and my brother who's 18 now but so at the time he's like 17 he kept taking out he loves to collect shells and rocks and shit but he kept taking it out of the ocean and I was telling him put it back because that's kapu like to remove
Starting point is 00:57:41 especially earthly things like it's just bad juju don't do that and I kept telling him stop doing that like he was taking him on the beach and he was like oh you know I told him I explained to him it's kapu is bad right he's not listening to me he goes he picks up this big ass
Starting point is 00:57:57 rock and I was like put that shit back dude you're bringing bad energy to the trip he turns around I'm not even kidding like if you believe in anything you believe in karma because he turned around he no waves the whole day randomly a big ass wave comes hits him in the back of his
Starting point is 00:58:13 head bitch rolls him onto the beach he's covered in sand like he almost died and my family and I couldn't stop laughing because I was like I told you to stop touching that shit I told you to put those rocks back in the ocean bitch It's like if there's one thing we know, it's that.
Starting point is 00:58:30 That's what I was saying. I told you to put the shit back. And then he never took another rock out of the ocean. Funny how that works. Sometimes you've got to learn the hard way. Yeah. Learned his lesson. Just a bit of a bruised ego.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Best case scenario, honestly. All for the better. All for the better, I think. You know, sometimes there are certain lessons I can't teach you. You just got to let happen to you. You know what I mean? Okay. So we did our videos.
Starting point is 00:58:54 We talked about the comments. What is that you want people to know? about like cultural appropriation especially when it comes to Pacific Islander cultures. When it comes to Pacific Islander cultures, it's what I said earlier. Like I think it's so important to understand, like especially with tattooing, understand why there's so many people who are against it. And I mean, genuinely understand. Don't just like brush the topic.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Like figure it out. Yeah. Because it'll just, it'll help you understand so much more. Yeah. And that's why he also said like get into open practices of things. Like it's a respectful way of being able to engage and enter into someone else's culture. Yeah. Appreciate.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Appreciate. As opposed to appropriate. Yeah. Appreciate. And I think, too, especially when it comes to tattooing, if you do a lot of research into it, you'll find, like, obviously, the cultural significance of it, like, what it means to us. But then at the same time, you'll see, like, how a lot of times those practices were banned, right? Or they weren't allowed to do them.
Starting point is 00:59:54 That's not just our indigenous cultures. as many other indigenous cultures where white supremacy and colonization, like they forbade certain practices like tribal tattooing, especially the traditional way like the PAA that we do it, because it was deemed like savage or just, I don't know, unholy, those kinds of things. So if you look at all of that significance, what makes you think that you have any right to get it? That's what I always think. Or you could just eat shit.
Starting point is 01:00:20 That works too. I'll tell you to do either. I'll either, most of the time, I'll just tell you to eat shit. I can respect that now. As opposed to getting, instead of getting that, I need you to put your phone down, go outside, look at the sun, smell, the breeze, look at the ground, pick up that piece of shit and eat it. That's what I think you should do instead of asking me, as a non-Samoan person, can I get Samo tribal? No. No.
Starting point is 01:00:44 The answer is always no when it comes to us. No. Like someone who followed me, I think they went to Samo on like a mission trip or something, but they're like, I got a tattoo of like a tea leaf or of a tarot or something. You know how we're talking about how white people like to tattoo Like random things? I was like that's cute And like it's gonna get tattoo about terrible Yeah
Starting point is 01:01:02 Commemorate your little Like at that Colonizing experience stuff Just kidding What a fun way to do that Also if you've never worked at a callow farm I don't want to hear you talk about collo That shit is hard
Starting point is 01:01:20 I had to do like a I had to get this is so off topic anyways Again when I went to UH One of the requirements when you go there I don't know if it still is, but you have to take a Hawaiian studies class so you can understand and learn about the culture that you're, like basically interacting with and visiting every single day that you're living in Hawaii, which I think is really cool.
Starting point is 01:01:39 But there was a thing where we had to work on like a loi farm. That was like part of our, bitch, I've never been eaten by mosquitoes more in my life. Oh my God. I'm like, if you've never interacted with like the loi or done like Kalo or any kind of farming, no, you're not allowed to do that. Go do that first. And then you tell me if you want to get tribal tattoo. on you, dude.
Starting point is 01:01:59 How long did you do that for? We had to do it for like an hour. I was like, this feels really off the books. This feels like I'm not supposed to be. This feels like manual labor. Free manual labor. Yeah, they're like, this is for the, for class? I'm all, is it?
Starting point is 01:02:12 Yeah, bitch, I was down there. They have a lowy farm on campus. They have a few. Oh, do they really? Yeah. So I was down there harvesting, bitch. Oh my God. They had me pushing on my sleeves and everything.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Do that and then tell me if you want to be someone who's allowed to get to pass. to get tribal. And even if you do it, the answer is still going to be now. So, don't bother. Don't do it. Anyways, that's going to do it for this episode of the comment section show. Thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you so much to my wonderful, amazing guest, Stanson. Where can everybody find you? You can find me on Instagram and TikTok at Halfcasted. Once again, my name is Stanton Afore. And thank you for having me again. Yes, I'm so happy to have you. I'm so excited you came. You're the best.
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