The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - COWORKER FUNNY Ft. Taylor Ortega | Episode 222

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

Taylor Ortega is here this week!! Taylor and Drew talk about her new show Big Mistakes (out now on Netflix), the side effects of being a tall woman, fighting with your sister, being delusional, channeling Bob Ross, manifesting in the shower, banning yourself from Instagram, and so much more.Taylor IG: https://www.instagram.com/taylortega/?hl=enFollow The Comment Section on IG: https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/Barilla: look for the red bag on shelves.Visit mybillie.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

There's people in my real life who maintain a height that I go, okay. Sure. If you need it. If you need that inch, go ahead. Whatever. I used to feel like gaslit by it and now I just go, whatever. No one can see what I see. I know when they say, I'm about 6'1 and I can see their scalp. Yes. Sure. It's crazy. Me too, Mama. Welcome back to another episode of the comment section show, sorry, me, your babe, everybody knows me,

cares about me on to the guest today we have the iconic the legendary the one the only taylor ortega who thank you for having me oh my god to be here welcome to the show i'm so happy to have you that was a pro intro oh my gosh thank you i get that i do get that compliment quite a bit from guess and i'm like oh my god it's something to see it's something to see yeah that's just what happens when i do like pee-p-poo-poo-time in front of this bullshit for 200 plus episodes they you know what's annoying too is sometimes people are like, oh, I hate when you repeats herself. I'm like, you try talking for 200 episodes. No, we don't have that much to say. No, you're going to circle the block. There's only so many experiences you can have. I know. I can only age so fast.

I don't have that many. You use them up. Like, you get to an age where you have experiences and you go, fine. I have something to say. And then you use them up in a three hour span. Yeah, and then you're like, all right. Does anyone else have anything else to they want to say? Then you dig into like the personal ones where you go, I wasn't going to say this, but you have to start oversharing. I want to give something. This episode of the comment section is presented to you by Borilla. You know those nights when you're deep in a reality TV binge and suddenly the snacks aren't cutting it? You need a proper meal.

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Thank you for coming to the show. I think you're a ledge and I think you're hilarious. Oh, my God, you too. But I do want to just kind of kick off just to, because I know you've done improv. I know you've done stand up. Now obviously you're doing acting or you haven't doing acting, but now you're in big mistakes.

How exciting. It's really exciting. But let's start from the beginning. Like, how did you get into show business, I feel like, or entertainment as a whole? like what led you there? I guess what did lead me there? I grew up thinking that it was like a viable career path.

Like I think many of us do where we're like, I'll probably either like go to college and get a job or like probably I'll be like a famous actress. Yeah, that's. And like probably I'll do that. Yeah, those are my two paths for sure. Yeah, you're like surely I'll be on camera for a living. And no, and then I'm I moved to the city. in my early mid-20s.

And I think at that age, you start to get a little bit more like, oh, wait, it's hard. And I was like waiting tables and stuff. And so I minimize my dreams to a realistic place. And I went, OK, actually, I will wait tables, a thing I was really, really bad at, and do improv. Because it was the boom. It was during the big boom.

OK. And you don't get paid for improv. No, you don't. If anything you pay to do improv. Yeah, if anything, you pay a hefty price. And not just financially to do improv. No, dignity, a lot of it. And so I was doing that and I was being the worst waitress in New York City,

tri-state area maybe as a whole. And I said, well, we did it. I'm done. We're good. This is the dream. And I think that was kind of a lifesaver because having zero expectations is sort of the only way to last out this business. Oh my God, I know. Especially in art form.

Like to make money off art, you really got to do it for the love of the game. You have to do it for the love of the game. And I think for me, too, it was like I came. I didn't have, it was so funny recently. I did another podcast where everyone got clipped and everyone was like, oh, they thought I wasn't maybe a NEPO baby. Because they've never heard of you before. Yeah, and well, because they do, you know, they pop up.

That's true. And I guess the conversation, it seems like, yeah, right. Like sometimes you'll be watching someone for a while and you go, oh, I didn't realize. And so no, but I wasn't. And so it just does take a much longer time. It takes a really long time. Yeah. I've gotten, I've only gotten an industry plan, I think, like once.

but I was like I would be the worst one ever like I'm an antagonizer like I know when I antagonize people I would be like they need to lay low yeah they want you to lay low yeah they want you to lay low strange approach I know they typically men in this industry don't like being harassed they'd typically I would I go bigger I go men as a whole they like they like they like they like they don't they like you ever sometimes one of them will be doing like a kind of a joke a version of like a joke that they will do and then you'll kind of do it back and you'll sort see them be like, I really like that. I'm like, I don't like that.

I'm like, we were gonna have fun. I'm like, let it just let me do it a little more. Yeah, let's be silly. I go, this is your kind of humor that you like. Right. And girls like it too. Yeah. Girls like it too.

Girls like it too. Girls like it too. Girls like it to be a little mean too. I'd argue they're better at it, honestly. Yeah, it's true. Typically speaking. When you're really on a role with one and you think everyone, you're both laughing.

And you're both laughing and then. All of a sudden it's really, and you are kind of like killing it actually. Yeah. Yeah, I'm giving myself the Zoomies because I'm doing so awesome. I'm literally like laughing my app. It was so funny.

I had someone on. They had said, I went on someone's podcast and they were telling me, I forget who it was, but they were telling me basically that they realized they mispronounce my last name like in conversation with me. And I was like, really?

When? And they were like, oh, it was like when we were talking about this and I was like, you want to hear something so funny. I didn't notice you did that because I was waiting for you to stop talking so I could get my joke off.

I could do my joke. Yeah. I was trying to. to get one off and you were taking a little while. So believe you or not, honestly, PEMDOS cancels out. I wasn't listening to you because I was hooked on when my timing would land. I didn't need to be a landmine. I was workshopping a bit while you were going through that.

So it's all right. That's fine. I didn't even notice. That's okay. But so you went from improv to stand up natural pipeline. No, I kind of went from like, well, yeah. So because stand up you can get a paycheck. You can, if you really stick with it, get a paycheck.

And I said, I'm not interested in the paycheck. Oh, no, no. I said, no, hold on. No, I was doing. improv and I actually, it was like there was a lot more like internet, like it was less individual online. It was a bit more like there were structures in place and like companies putting money into talent and you could go host something and get paid like like Cosmo would have you come like do a man on the street and they would. It was like BuzzFeed era. You know? Yes, yes, yes. And so when I first

moved to New York, I had like writer friends or people here and there and they'd be like, do you want to come host this thing? And I would do it completely for free at first because I didn't know that you should get And I would like leave my job or go before my job and I would host these little things and that's how I sort of got into like being on camera And nice and because that was just a thing back then and I would do that on camera and I met my manager as friends Oh cool. When we were both really young and She said to me she was like you gotta start writing stuff down Yeah, and I went well I don't know if I want to do that and she's like you have to start writing stuff down

She was like improv is a great skill and it is so fun and I still do improv shows and I really love it and it's my favorite form of comedy. It's true though. And it's so great and it taught me so many good things, but she was like, you have like, I think the skills you have, you need to start writing stuff. And she was right. How cool. She was really right. So when you ventured into stand-up, like, how did you like that versus, I know you said improv's your fame? But how did you like it in comparison to improv? I love it. I mean, I kind of didn't do it. When I did like JFL and SNL, all the abbreviation shows and showcases and auditions. I was doing like characters because I was kind of jumping into it with no experience.

And you can kind of improvise that. And then I learned to write characters that way. I started doing stand-up when I was living in L.A. I moved with other comedians and we started hosting a mic together. This is actually so crazy because I think probably the people who came to the mic didn't realize that I was not a stand-up. But they're like, we know. Like, no, we know. Nobody was aware.

We knew. No, and I started, because it was weekly, I would write my little jokes for the week. And so really, L.A. was where I was doing stand-up. And I think it's really fun, but I have that improv brain of like, I want to be with my friends. Honestly, you're so real. Because stand-up's one of the few things that I was, like, really resistant to when I started doing this. Mostly because I love to watch stand-up. I have many friends in stand-up.

Obviously, we have a shared love in Caleb. Yes. And so, like, I love stand-up comedy. and I love it as an art form. I love to watch it and I love to laugh, clearly. But when I started doing this, I was, you know, some, you know, people in my team and stuff were like, maybe we should try stand up.

Yeah. Like, because I love improv. Like, I do love, I love working off people. I love being quick and responsive. That kind of humor is my favorite kind as well. But I, with stand-up, I was like, I just don't want to find out the bad way I suck. Because, like, I know that-

You wouldn't. You'd be amazing at it as the thing. And you would be, like, good in the room with the, like, with crowd work. You'd be so good with the audience. and what I think you would like, the sweet spot of stand-up, I think, and maybe stand-ups will disagree with me

because I'm not really one. But I think what you would probably like best about it is like when you're in, like, the city you live in and you're getting up on shows and you're doing it with, like, other comedians. Like, that's how you're seeing your friends. Like, you'd like be on a show with Caleb, be on a show with like these other comedians.

And that is so fun. I think where it loses me is like, what would happen with you is, obviously your stand-up would be hilarious. They'd want you to tour. And then suddenly, you're like by yourself and you're like maybe you have an opener with you if you're lucky but like you're traveling alone and you're in a city you've never been to and it's like really lonely and like you're literally so me like that's i'm not kidding like i don't want to do that i tried it i tried it i did say i did open for

kaleb and chris fleming which felt fucking rude i was like where do you put me before two giants what the hell no that's the best i was like well i thought so the room was awesome like even even Even Caleb told me it was at the Largo. So like, Caleb asked me, he was like, do you want me to promote it? Like you're gonna be there? And I was like, honestly, no. And the reason why I said no is because I was like, I love and adore my fans.

I know they find me funny. I don't think I'll know if I'm actually funny if it's a room full of my fans. So true. I was like, I wanted to be people who either have never heard of me or maybe briefly have heard of me. And I want to know for real if they laugh. Like I was like.

Also, it doesn't hurt to announce you kind of like in the moment and have people be like, I'm kind of like high off of like, which happened when I went on I went to two of Caleb's like tour stops which was like that was fun at that point though we had like an established friendship and everything everyone was like a huge fan of all of us hanging out but even when I tried it I tried it a few times and I was like I even explain this to Kayla because he was like please keep trying because I thought I was like I don't think I'm going to do stand up I think I'm going to pause that and do other things because I love to act and I love to improv and stuff like that and I was telling him I think it's the freedom with improv that I enjoy because obviously with stand up you have freedom but there is like a structure and you have to stay inside the parameters so you can get your jokes, which is great, but I need no fence line. I'm at my happiest moment when anything can happen.

And then it's like the fun surprise of like, I just did an amazing joke. And even I didn't see it coming. Right, it is low-key self-serving because I'm like, and I was hilarious and I just came up with that. Yes. I actually think it's really, it's a good measure. Like, yes, you want to try everything,

but it's like other, it's like the people who represent us. It is their jobs to be like, what about this? what about this, what about this, like thinking of all your talents and how do we use them. But I also think it's good to be like, I don't have enough interest in that to pursue it. And I'll quit. And I will quit. No, thanks.

And I also hate touring. So it's funny you say that. I do hate going on tour. It's really hard. I think it takes a lot of fortitude to be touring. Yeah, and it's like. I could never be a pop star. No one asked me to. And no one will. And no one will. I'm turning 37 this month. No one will. My knees crack loud when I go to the ground.

Yeah. You look great. Thank you so much. You're a killer. I never would have guessed 37. Oh, thank you. But yeah, no, I can't be. I can't be touring.

Yeah, I get you on that, though, too. I'm like, past a certain age, I need to be at home. I need to be at, when I see them lifting Zara Larson over their head, I go, couldn't be me? Put her down. Yeah. Get her on the groom. Put her down. It's been months.

She's been up there. I know. I know. We love Zara Larson here. We're huge fans of her here. I want to be pulled up on stage. Oh, my God. I don't know.

The lush life dance. You just want to give it your all. I want to do it. Well, I do have a dance. Zara is my friend. I will tell her. Thank you. That you really want to do it with her. I'll learn the dance. I'll be diligent. Yeah, I'll tell her by that time, you'll be ready.

You'll be prepared. Also, I'm 511. Me next to Zara Larson is probably like jarring. I'm six weeks, so I get it. Yes. We've got to stand up later. Oh my God, nobody's tall. Nobody's tall.

Nobody's tall anymore. No, especially not men. He is really tall. He is really tall. It's funny because when I've had videos sitting next to Caleb very few times because most of the time we're sitting and a lot of the stuff we're doing. But when we're standing, they're like, I was not prepared for him to be tall. I was like, no, he is.

He's like 6.3. Really, do you think people who only see Caleb in a visual medium? They think he's short. Isn't it crazy? I'm like, he doesn't even look short to me. No, he does not look short to me. But we're also tall. Like, I do think tall women like can always tell when someone's tall and someone's not.

Short women don't know shit. Every single time, when I'm like, when I'm making jokes live, like when I do live comedy and stuff and I ask, and I'm talking shit on men, obviously. I always ask him, how tall was he? And then they're like, oh, he was like 6-1. I'm all how tall are you, 5-2? You don't know. No, you don't know. You don't know. And you're wrong probably.

There's people in my real life who maintain a height that I go, okay. Okay. Sure. If you need it. If you need that inch, go ahead. Whatever. I used to feel like gaslit by it and now I just go, whatever. No one can see what I see.

I know when they say, they're like, I'm about 6-1 and I can see their scalp. Yes. Sure. It's crazy. Me too, Mama. Yeah, you're 6-1 and I'm 125 pounds, period. Look at us.

I really am like how to, but then it, because no one is tall. Right. You go, maybe I am wrong. Right. Like maybe I. Yeah, men I have tried to gas like me too. They're like, no, you're probably like more like 5.8. I was like, I was 5.9 when I was 14.

Same. I was a huge. Yeah, I was like, I have osteoprosis now in my 30s. I doubt it. Well, that's also the other thing is the, um, uh, accounting for like the slouching to be in the group right whenever people talk about like Taylor Swift's slouching I go she just wants to hear what everyone is saying and she just wants to be laughing in the group and her head to be where everyone's head is she wants to be included but then

you don't zoom out and see like a group of girls and you're like like sometimes you'll see a picture from being like a teenager and you're like hunched over yeah like I do like a lean too on unintentionally because everyone is smaller than me yeah but also like I I've said this about fans too, sometimes when fans ask me for pictures. They'll always comment on the height, I think it's because they literally assume I'm like five four, five five,

which I'm always like, I know men lie about their height, I don't. I would never say, I would never say six feet if I wasn't even close to that. There's no way. That's a crazy height to start lying about it. Like that would be crazy. If I was five, six and I was telling people

I'm six feet. Well, I'm six feet. Yeah, that would be crazy. That would be funny, but that would be crazy. It would. So when fans meet me in person, they're like, whoa, you are, I'm like, right, P5-0-Fum, right? And then they're like, okay, can I take a picture?

I'm like, yeah. And I hate when girls do this, and I've said this many times, stop doing this to me. When they stand next to me because I'm so tall and I do that lean, they do that stomach hold bullshit. No, wait, what? Girl, they hold me like their man. What do you mean?

I said. Wait, they're going inside? Yeah, like to the side, like that. Like, girls, like do what their man, like their prom dates. Oh, no. I literally was like, hey, no, get that off me. No, no. Get that hand off my stomach.

I never know how to stand. I never know. how to stand in a photo. If someone did that to me, I really would. I got God a few times. I was like, now I've noticed a pattern and I need it to stop. I used to do a lot of, I did, I had a joke. I used to do what I would be like, are there any short girls in the crowd? Because it's always, there are. It's mostly them. Yeah. And I, and then they'd woo. And I'd be like, one question, what's your fucking problem with me? What's your fucking problem with me? You have everything. Yeah. And it is kind of like, they'll be like, you are so big. And I know for them, it's like,

they have obviously they could never know. No. Because usually it really is like, it's not like there's three, six foot women in a group. No, never. There's only ever. We have to, we have to like, I don't know, spread out, I guess. Totally ever one. There's only ever one.

And then like most of the girls are around five four. And then it's like maybe there's two five footers. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. If that. Usually it is one other really small girl. Yeah, really small, one really tall.

And then everyone else is somewhere in the middle. Yes. And I'm always close friends with like the smallest one. Me too. I'm always, it is like a classic friendship of like the tallest girl and these most tiny ones. Oh my God, I'm giving, I'm giving dad, like father. When I'm out with my girls, like, it's like everyone's so small.

It's like I feel like a mother duckling. Yes. And they're all just trailing behind me. It is really, I worked at this restaurant in the city. And when these guys that I worked with, I would come to the kitchen to like, you know, bust my like thing. And all at once, they would scream avatar at me. Okay.

And I didn't. Oh, kitchen staff has jokes. They all screamed Avatar at me and at first I didn't get it. And then I went, the avatars are bigger. Yeah, Avatar. I got it. That's honestly kind of funny that you didn't get it at first. I didn't get it first and then I kind of left and I went, that's a really good joke.

You really got me? I would say, I think I would get the Avatar allegations more if I was like thinner. But I'm a big, I'm a big girl. Okay. So I'm a thick girl. And has anyone ever yelled a specific character at you? No, it's more so been like B. Yeah, like I'm more giving BFG.

I'm not really giving Avatar. You know what I mean? I'm giving more BFG. I'm giving more Shrek. Like, that's kind of more my vibes. Not Shrek. Shrek's huge. I mean, like, tall.

Like, Shrek's big. Well, Shrek's not real. Well, that too. You think he's, oh, he is tall, I guess. Yeah, he's tall. Yeah, he's tall. Yeah, he's tall. And I'm sure Fiona's tall, too.

I'm sure she's. I just don't know what size the other creatures are. Dude, that's true. It's a bad gauge. Yeah. Yeah. Well, because you know, when he's sitting next to the humans, they look like this. That's true.

That's me with fans. Okay. Yeah. And then I'm like, get out my swamp. Like, that's literally my deal. Like, when I'm yelling at people and they're laughing and having a good time. Yeah, they're loving it. That's kind of my deal too.

They're clapping. Yeah. They're like, canonically seven feet. See, he's seven feet. That's big, but that's, I would think bigger. Big thick boy. Yeah. I would think bigger.

I would think bigger too. I know. But that's why I'm like, you know, that's like him going like, pz to the guys like torch. That's me to men online. Yeah. It's for big real. It really is. They come and storm in my swamp and all that.

And they didn't even know, and they don't even know that you're tall. No, they don't. They do think I'm lying. There is also, too, like a, I make a joke on here a lot where I'm like, I may tell a joke, but I never tell a lie. Unless I lie. Yeah. Then I'm lying. Then I am lying.

But then at that point, I am lying. But other than that, I'm not. Are you lying or are you just trying something out? That's why I'm like, or I'm just like narrative building. Yeah. Or I'm imagining manifesting all of those things. You know, and people will get really mad at comedians for when they find. it like a piece of a joke isn't true or a piece of a story isn't true.

I know like you just lie. You need it for the narrative. I go, don't digged too deep. Yeah. Well, oh my God. Storytelling. Oh, my God. Giggling is illegal now.

Don't. Yeah. I know sometimes when I tell jokes and they're like, oh, a perfect one. I like, when I was serving, I also hated serving. Oh, yeah. The way my attitude is set up, I'm not built to be a server ever because people are really mean to servers. But I told this story.

I've told them many times how like the, the, first and last restaurant I worked in as a server, as a server, I had to train this guy that I didn't realize was my replacement at the time, but he kept leaving in the middle of the shift to go smoke meth in the bathroom. That is quite literally the joke, even though it's true. He absolutely was 1,000% smoking meth in the bathroom. For sure. He sounded like a little Wayne song from the outside. And it's happening. Yeah. And then he ended up getting fired like a day later because he left in the middle of shift again, but he was just like eating. He like made himself. Well, they don't. like when you do that. No, they like, meth, one thing. Yeah. Eating the food. Yeah. They go, don't eat food. Yeah. So, like, I tell this whole story on like a different podcast. Obviously, the story is funny. Whatever. Um, but a lot of people in the comments, like, when the clip did well online, they were like, actually when you smoke meth, you have no appetite. So, so, like, it was probably weed. Okay, first of all, fuck off. Second of all, believe it or not, meth has a smell. Does anyone know that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It has a very specific smell and so does weed. So I know what meth smells like. I know what weed smells like. Either way, did you laugh? I would, yeah, 100. Yeah. Either way, did you laugh and enjoy it? We're not dissecting here.

No, girl. Oh my god, what are you a cop? Like, oh, shit. Also, it's like I'm sure people are smoking weed at a restaurant, but I guess if you had to give me the choice to get through the day, to do the work, it's like, I'm not picking weed. Why, so it can last longer?

Right. What the fuck? So I can go slower and forget more people's orders. And then I had people arguing in the comments underneath going, I used to smoke meth and I was actually really hungry. Okay, listen, everybody's different. We have gone a completely different way. Everybody who does meth is different.

Can we not? Like, they're not a monolith. If you guys can believe meth was not the point. Literally. That was not the point. I guess my point is like, did you laugh? Yeah. Then enjoy.

You're thinking too hard. Yeah, you're trying to hard. We're all thinking too hard. too hard. How are the truth is going to present themselves to us? Right. And also, can we giggle? Can we? More and more, it feels like we can't even giggle. We can't giggle, especially not online. It's an austere time. Yeah. And in many ways, it's never appropriate to giggle anymore. I think we can all agree. It's like never appropriate to giggle. But sometimes I need it. You ever get like a really big laugh off and you go,

it's been like weeks yeah like it was like really like a bad one where you're like crying you can't breathe kind of and you go oh I needed that release really bad yeah I needed it to like be exercised out of thing I needed it bad yeah that's how I feel that way about laughing

and I feel that way about like I almost talk about like how I have to channel my anger and like my venom and I have to treat it otherwise I can't digest my food like a snake you know what I'm saying does it just ball up in your stomach yeah and then I was like I got to use this in some way.

And I feel like my platform is a perfect example of me expending that energy positively. It's beautiful. It's really creative. Yes. Yeah. So it's like I am stealing, but like I'm giving to the fore. And you're kind of channeling in a way. Right.

I was like, this is healthy. I'm in therapy. It is. I talk about it often. I know. I think about that. Also because I've said this before, like I'm not a, I don't really get big sobs. Like I'm not a big sobber.

Yeah. So sometimes like, yeah, a verbal tirade is like, feels so good. It feels so validating. It feels so validating. You're like, I know I'm in the wrong, but I gotta. Like, I know I sound foolish. I know, that's like, honestly a huge part of girlhood, I feel like, sisterhood with your friends.

Like, your girlfriend ever been telling you something and then like at a certain point, you're like, you sound insane. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're in the wrong. You gotta get the Billy Razor into your life.

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Yeah, I love you. I'm not judging you. Also, it's like, you just, you just clocked yourself. Yeah, I was like, girl, I think you know you're being crazy, but it's okay. Like, I support women's rights and wrongs. And wrongs. And wrongs and certainly wrong. Oh, yeah, I hold the most aggressive double standard for women and men. For sure.

Also, once you get a little older, it is kind of like you, when I was younger, I was never sure what was up, what was down. And so you'll feel a big feeling, you'll feel anger, you'll feel sad, you'll feel whatever, and you're like, I could be wrong about everything. And then the older you get, you know when you're, when your behavior is like, you know when you're being out of pocket. You know when you're being in my home, we call it like me and my partner, we go, I'm being bad. I'm the bad one today. I'm acting bad. You were acting bad last week. You maybe had a week of acting bad. And like, you know you're being stubborn. You know you're in the wrong. And the older you get, the more, it's like, well, I'm still going to like me to get this. out but just so true it's so freeing too and then you can have a little winky moment where you

know I'm being kind of bad this week being a little bad I know one time I was talking my sister about something and she was like in the middle of it I was like asking her I was kind of pushing back on something she was telling me a little bit and she was like oh no I'm being a hater yeah I'm being a hate yeah I'm hating and I just want to hate freely and I'm going to get over it and I was like that's real girl go ahead and it and it feels sort of like um when you're when you're younger and your friend is doing that. It's almost like building a bad habit in you where you go, I have to speak up to my friend.

Right? Like I can't just allow her to do whatever. Like it almost builds a habit where you're like, no, definitely, am I scared of her? I'm scared to tell her. Like, I'm going to wait to address that. You don't want to build this dynamic where I... When she's in a different state.

Am I afraid? Is she in charge of me? You know, where now it's like, you can say, right. Hey, I think we can't act on that. That's like true sisterhood, too. Yeah. Like, I feel like that's when you get grown up friends versus like when you're young.

having friends when you're young versus when you're older and in your 30s. I was scared of almost all my friends when I was young. Right, and what they would do. Or you'd get like access to kind of like a cool new group of girls or something. You'd be like, I can't speak my mind here. It's too early.

I can't. Yeah, we're in the lying phase like when you date. You're like, this is the phase where we lie to each other a little bit. We're going to lie. And I'm going to pretend to absolutely be someone that I'm not. I don't want to end up being like the funny one who like helps them with their academic appeals.

You know, I need a better role. I need a better role. Maybe I'll be the leader. Okay, speaking of a new role, let's talk about big mistakes. Okay. How exciting? How did it come about? Like, how did it feel when you got it?

I'm so curious. I mean, it was like two years ago, almost exactly that I first, I was on a job in Italy. In Rome, you know, Roma. And I did an audition. tape for it and I remember like I don't know how all of the industry side stuff works but whenever I get an audition my brain kind of runs through like not in a totally emotionless way you're just like this is something I could reasonably get or like no they'll probably go with someone bigger or like you just know where

you slot in a little bit and you start to learn and you do mostly auditions that you don't get so it doesn't really feel like anything but I got it and I read it I think I read the pilot or something and I was like oh wait this is like really my personality and we have the same upbringing and background, all this stuff. I go, wow, this character is very close to type. I think I would do an amazing job at this, but I don't think the timing is right. Like, I do not think they could cast me in this. And I waited six months and didn't hear, which is exactly what I was expecting. So that was perfect. And I guess what happened was they had read a ton of people for it and they were like struggling to like really cast it how

they wanted to or find a fit that felt right. And my manager reached back out and was kind of like, hey, like, what's the deal? Like, why haven't you cast this yet? And like, why not Taylor? And this is so crazy to learn. But they were like, oh, honestly, she was the exact first, the first audition we saw. And sometimes you're just kind of like prepared to see a ton of people. So you forget the first person you see.

Yes. Or even the first five or 10. Yeah. And I think, and then I had talked to a casting director, not who casted big mistakes, but who was like, it's so interesting because I'm sending the people. people in the first, you know, group of people who I think are the best fit. And a lot of times they're just like, okay, who's next? Because you're just like, this process is going to be long and we're going to see every

girl in this town. Yeah, it's like, the grass is always greener mentality. Yes. And they're like, what if, though? It can't. I know. I think we're all and in everything we do, we go, nothing can be easy. Nothing can be easy and simple.

No, never. No, we have to torture ourselves and it has to be hard to be good. Yes. And I believe that and I'll keep living my life that way. But yeah, and then I came so really quick, like, I waited six months and then they were like, would you tape again? And I was like, obviously I'm unemployed.

I'll tape out. Yeah, let me check my schedule. Yeah, for the lead of a show, I'll tape. Yeah, yeah. And then truly like a day after that, I went in and like read with Dan and it was, at that point you are kind of like, either we have chemistry or we don't.

Right. You can't really fake it. And I'm so glad that we did and that we really liked performing together, but also I think we were like improvising and we had like a really sweet energy with each other. And I, who knows, but I did leave kind of being like, it does seem like I probably got it, right?

Like, I don't know, right? But you're not in the room with anyone else. You're so me. Like everyone else could have been having that experience, but I go, no, mine's special. You're like, my fucking nailed that. I know, I think I nailed. One time I went to an audition,

a live audition that was like full Broadway singing for a movie. And not my, I sing, but like I was there with like Broadway girls. Yeah. And I was used to like film and TV. TV auditions. They're very chill with you in film and TV auditions. I go in, my sister who is a Broadway girl and me are auditioning.

My sister goes in nails it like you've never heard in your life. Okay, it's beautiful, it's flawless. She comes out, she's like, pp, fuck, fucking shit. Right? I go, I miss a whole page of music. Like, miss a whole page, they go, you didn't finish the song. I go, amazing. Do you want me to just jump back in or she can start from the top?

And they're like, I'm so glad you notice, take it from the top. They go, start from the top. I sing it yet. I fuck up the whole audition. I walk out, I go, I think I might have gotten that. I was like, you definitely did it. You're so many. You definitely.

The only person who's narrative matters is mine. It's mine. I leave every edition going, I think my dreams are coming to you today. God, I feel sorry for every other girl who went in after me. I'll be, I'll say that much. Someone during this press run was like referred to me as an ingenue once again. And I, and my manager is going to be like, stop doing this. I'm turning 37 this month.

They're like, an ingenue, I go, it's truly the only way I've stuck it out this long to get this long to get. this job is that I walk in every space going, today's the day. Right. Today is the day. It's true. But then you have like a big win and you know that was worth it. And you do the big win and you're like, I fucking knew it.

I knew it all along. And then when you don't get it, you're like, we'll see the universe has a plan for me. Yeah, there's something bigger coming. Yeah, there's something bigger for the big. They say no so they can open a window. So they can give me an even bigger opportunity. They're calling me soon. And it'll be like two years.

Unrelated two years. Then I start making reasons why I didn't get it. I'm like, well, obviously. I wasn't here at the time they were filming. You're like, if I had gotten that job two years ago, I might not be free to do this. Could have done both, girl. I do the same shit all the time.

Could have done both for sure, but. I haven't gotten a confirmation once, but I tell myself all the time, I'm like, well, I know the reason. I know the reason. It does, here's the thing. That sort of mental abuse cycle is really, it does, it's sort of how I feel about seasons.

Like, now that I'm like back in New York, it is sort of like the, you are, are getting, God, 200 knows to a yes, maybe more, probably more. Yeah. And so that, like, cycle really does put your brain in this weird place where when you get a big win, you're like, I knew it. I knew it. I knew what's going to happen.

And it is so hard and everyone is waiting so long for, like, their one thing. And it's like the one communal thing you share. Oh, my God. That it is, everybody's waiting. It is kind of, it does. Right. Put you in a place where you're like. more and more primed to do it.

Which is why the, the nepo baby allegations are even funnier. Because you're like, bro, you have no clue how long. I've been waiting. I've been waiting for my number to be called for a long fucking time. And the deeper you get, the more like you learn where it's kind of like you're insane. If you're not, if you're, if you don't have a connection in this business or $5 million, you're insane for trying. Why would you ever do it?

No, dead ass. But you get one little win. You get like one little, your first little unpaste. thing and you're like oh my god there's space for me here oh my god I'm gonna be huge this is just the beginning oh my god the start of my career who am I gonna think when I win my Oscar I literally do the same thing I'm like who am I going to think when I win my Oscar oh my god sometimes I get anxiety where I go this is crazy like an anxiety will hit me where I go because one part of my brain goes awards are silly like they just don't matter

like everyone like here's the thing I do believe like everyone does deserve to exercise creativity and I think if they wanted to have a creative career which I don't know that everyone wants to do that with their creativity. That's true yeah. But everyone should get a shot. It's not how it feels like it works and it's not how it works. Yeah. But so I will have that one part of my brain where it's like validation doesn't matter and da-da-da-da. And then I have the other part of my brain obviously that's like now been trained to be like it's a sign. Or I'll be like, I'm really nervous about my Oscar speech and it's like honey what Oscar's speech? I'm like I hope but don't forget anyone in my Oscar's speech.

Oh my God, I know. I'm like, what if they only give me a plus two? Who am I going to bring? What are they? Who am I going to bring? I think all the time. All the time. Who am I going to take?

How am I going to decide? I'm like, they're going to be so mad at me when I don't take them. It's like, you're not invited. Not yet. They don't know your name over there. But imagine when your name does get called, do you need to be ready. We have to be ready.

That's why I, I'm not even kidding. This happened to me like a couple weeks ago. I was like so high and I was taking a shower. and I was thinking about like acting because I'm working on some stuff right now and I was like thinking about it. And that's where I say my prayers a lot like to my ancestors to the universe, whatever. And so I was like literally picturing being at the Oscars. And I was like picturing who would be in the audience made myself cry.

I was so bad ass. I was like, wow. Like that's going to be. I'm like, God. I hope I cry. I'm like thinking of myself, wow, the first someone woman to win an Oscar. Like that is such a huge feat. Nothing's even remote.

I haven't been cast in shit. Not even close. I haven't been cast in shit, girl. When Michael B. Jordan was talking about his mom, like, taking him to all the editions, I go, that's really sweet. I should do something like that. You guys are not on the same path. I'm going to steal that. I'm going to steal that.

I'm going to steal that. I'm going to steal that. I think in, I think in 15 to 18 years when we win our Oscar, Michael B. Jordan will have forgotten what he said. Yeah. For real. He's going to be on, like, Denzel Washington's level at that point. Yeah.

He's not at the event. No, for real. I saw an interview with Denzel Washington recently, and they asked him like, oh, like how many, when you do auditions, like they said when you do auditions, that was the start of the question. And he like cut them off and goes, audition. I have an audition in like 20 years. I watch that shit. I said, I'm trying to be like him. He's offer only. Oh, my God. I'm trying to be like him. I mean, the minute, I think, I think when you get an Oscar, you don't have to audition anymore. But I'll still do. I will still do it. I'll read. I'll read. I always will go, I'll read. Me too. I feel like you watch the comeback? No, no, I haven't. Oh, I think that you would love it. Really?

It's truly one of the best shows ever made. It may be my favorite. And it really, from time to time. And her character is like, it is one of the first shows that I watched the first season. And I was like, wait, maybe acting is hard and is like such a skill. For real. Sometimes it feels like you're like, I'm just thinking of how I would feel and you think you're not working that hard. But then you see Lisa Kudrow.

this character that is so over the top and silly. And then she's really making you feel she's a really sympathetic character. And sometimes you love her. Sometimes you hate her. And yet sometimes you have to watch it because it is that internal monologue. Oh, I love. Where like she is, it's not about her being a good person or a bad person. She is just like kind of, it has the delusion that you need.

In order to survive. In order to survive in this industry. Yeah. And like enjoy yourself. And or sometimes really make yourself a prisoner of it too. Right. You have to, you like, you have to, like, lock yourself in the room with it kind of deal. And it is.

That's so real. I feel like I've told people many times because I'm not even like on your level. I'm in the dickhead internet level like where they're kind of intersecting. And I've told people before like there is a level of delusion you have to maintain to continue to do this because it is so. It's also so subjective. Like the casting process in general can be extremely subjective. Sometimes it's very close to material. Sometimes it's just how they're feeling.

Sometimes it's what they, like, imagined in their head. It's all so subjective. Or it's like they hire somebody else and, like, you would have gotten it, but then they hire someone else and then suddenly the group chemistry isn't, or like layout isn't what they're thought. There's just so many moving pieces. Like somebody else getting a job affects whether you get a job or not. It's crazy.

I mean, the internet of it all is, I think that that takes so much more. You're getting like immediate feedback for your performance. And that's like, that takes a crazy backbone. That's true. You know, that is. way you going to a set like doing your it's like we're all here doing this job and no one's going to see it for a minute so i can go and do a job yeah and do what i think is the best version of that job and if someone doesn't like it in six months to a year it's not really that much of my

business yeah but when someone's like literally like knocking on your door and being like i did not like that hey that sucked that wasn't funny have you ever considered that you're wrong and meth makes you not hungry i actually know a lot about meth so Yeah. And there's like no human being on earth. Like obviously anytime anyone tells me I'm wrong, I go, you're right. You're right. You're like, I have been thinking that I might be stupid my whole life. And like, actually, now that you bring it up to me, I think you're right. My hubris is so crazy that even when they tell me, I'm like, well, how would you know? It's true though. They Google it. And I'm like, well, it's always good to learn. Can't trust the internet these days. It's always good to learn. But I do think it's like taking constant feedback. I don't think is good either. Yeah, that's true. You have to have that chip in your brain. No, thank you today. That's like, actually, I'm going to choose not to believe any of these things. Yeah, I can't. I just can't today. Yeah, and honestly, I feel like with that, that is my version of an Epo baby, honestly,

is the internet. That's my way of, like, bulldozing my way in. Right. But I really do think I needed that little, like, extra boost from the internet. So it's kind of an amazing. It's kind of an amazing thing the way it's changed in the last couple of years. Yeah. Because even before, like, when I was talking about, like, oh, there were these online jobs,

you still had to be sort of, like, around for a minute. Yeah. and then be like one of whatever 15 people they were using on rotation for these jobs. Right. Where now it's like you kind of, if you are like funny and good and have something to say, can kind of just be like, and now me as well.

Right. And it's so hard. It still takes time. No, for real. I've talked about how like I'm fully planning on like Lynn Manuel Mirandaing my way into that industry. Like I'm like, yeah, you can have it, but I am a principal character.

Well, you can have Hamilton. I'm just, I'm Hamilton and I can't sing. But you're not wrong because at the end of the day. You're not wrong, though. because at the end of the day, it's still like, people want to watch you and, like, and many people agree on it. And that decides whether you get to talk. Or keep talking.

That's true. That decides. And then even as you start to, like, transition to different forms of, like, performance or writing and stuff, it is just, it does just continue to be like, what are your ideas? What do you have? Like, what is your... Which is, I guess, the dream. Like, that's the goal.

It is to get to a point where you can, like, procure your own ideas. Yes. Which I think is, that's why I think you're so. incredible too in the way that you've obviously you're very talented but I also think it's the the way that you've been looking at the industry is like one of the healthiest mindsets I've heard in a while thank you which I think is I think it speaks to your ability to not only sustain but also like perform at the level you have for so long because it's like yeah it's given you the like breathing room to kind of understand like I don't need to take this personal but this is what I really love to do

and one day it will work out it is it is it is not personal at the end of the the day it really isn't. But it is. And if it was, that's crazy. It's, it is. That's more of a thing on them than it is on you. Even people who are watching you, people are watching you way more often than they're watching people on film and TV, right? And you're giving them like

so much more content. You're giving them so much more of like what you're creating on a way quicker basis and they're responding to it. It's not, it's still not personal because it's still not personal because they don't really know you. And so you are, it is still performance. And so someone not liking it, you do

kind of just have to take a minute and be like, that's okay. Right. It really is okay. You don't have to like it. I don't like everything I watch. I know people. And like then people become like I'm sure for you more than anyone like they're having like a parissocial experience.

Yeah. Which is normal and it happens. And you kind of do, I bet have to be like, oh my God, but wait. But like actually you do. I do have like all of this life and all of these people who have known me for years. And like I, you know, it is not personal. Yeah. And you need that grounding kind of aspect to to keep reminding yourself how not personal.

It's so not and people are so not allowed to like it and they're so allowed to tell you. Yeah, and I've said that too, like, as far as like finding me funny, I've like said before, I'm like, I mean, if you don't find my kind of humor that funny, like, that's fine. That's okay? Yeah, like, I don't care. Like, I mean, like, and also like, I mean, if I were to split hairs, like, and we're asking a council of comedy, why would I ask you? Like I, I like, listen.

Also, it's like historically people agree that you're funny. Yeah, I was going to say, like, I mean, I got a cosign for some pretty funny people, listen, yes. Let's call it what it is. Throughout my life, people have, I've gotten the feedback more often. I know, like, when men who hate me are like, it's not that I don't like her, I just don't think she's funny.

I'm like, well, now you're just lying. Right. And I was like, I mean, like, one of us is funny. They're like, it's for academic reasons. Like her. That's typically why I don't like women. It's for, I just don't think that she's informed in the ways that I would like.

And it's just like historically, she doesn't do the comedy structures that I would. Yeah. Oh my God, comedy structure. The comedy structures. One time I had a comment once that was like saying that I wasn't as funny as like Caleb or Britney, like my friend Britney. Oh. Because I'm more co-worker funny.

And then they said that Caleb studied comedy and college. And that's why he's so good. I go, no the fuck he didn't. There's, is that a sociology major? Yeah. What the fuck are you talking about comedy? I don't also. Is that a major?

That's why I was like, where'd you go? Chuckles University. Like, oh, my fucking bad. Yeah. I got, I didn't get accepted into that college, my fucking bad. Yeah, my bad, I didn't apply. It was audition only. And also, you can co-sign this too.

Caleb doesn't hang out with non-funny people. No, it's true. He finds them taxing. It's true. And even like, and I'm, and we're talking like even people who are not comedians. Like, you know, like the biggest characters in Caleb's life. Yes.

Yes. There is not a person around Caleb who does not have a POV. Ery and a big personality. No, dead ass. Like, I think the same. I was like, he has a very. high standard. The boy wants to have a good time. Otherwise, he's just dancing for

everyone. Yes. Everyone needs to be playing a role, you know? That is, also that is the thing about, like, co-worker funny is okay, so, like, still the funniest person in the whole office. Like, what do you mean? If I'm the funniest girl in the office, I'm probably the funniest girl.

The world is my office by that measure. What do you mean? So you're talking about, like, my skill in the office that I'm funny. Okay, so I'm funny. So you agree. So you agree that I'm funny. And then you said, co-worker what was it the word after you said was funny okay sorry I just was like I'm not a word person but sorry I used to I had a boyfriend in my like early I was like 22 sorry oh derogatory and I apologize and for that and and he would be like no it's like you and he like wasn't funny and

that's okay there's nothing wrong with not being fun listen God doesn't give with both hands you don't see me being like upset I don't would work like I don't like like like like like Like it's okay to say you don't know how to do something. It's okay. It's all right. It's okay. But he wasn't funny and he would go and I hear this. Like I would hear this so many times like over the years from guys.

But they'd be like, no, it's like I'm. He's like, you are funny, but you're like theatrical funny. And I'm more like, he's like, I'm more dry. And I go and I would never understood me me, but it would make me feel bad. Like I was like yucking it up crazy. And then I go, oh, like so people are like laughing, having a good time when I'm being funny. And when you're being funny, they're kind of like, hmm. And so everyone gets uncomfortable when you talk.

And then when I do it, everyone's joyous and having a good. Oh, so they're like, ha ha laughing. Oh, so you meant ha ha funny. What's the other kind? Yeah, the other kind of funny is like, that's interesting. So you're kind of positing, more than anything, you're positing from time to time. Right, right. You're just kind of like having a thought every now and then and sharing it with the group.

Oh, yeah. Oh, that's good. Oh, okay. No, I love that. That's one time I asked my man, I was like, who between the two of us do you think is funnier? Obviously a loaded question. Yeah. And then he goes, between the two of us, I go, yeah, he goes, well, obviously you.

And I go, you're right. That's the correct answer. That was a trick question. And you passed. It would be so crazy not to say. It would be sort of like to have made a profession off of it. Like I've been in that position so many times where like even like a quaint. Like guys would just be like, I just think I think I could do it.

And it's like, but you haven't. So I just feel like. And I didn't bring this up. You did. And also like what's stopping you? Yes. You have a phone. and a brain and general will.

So like, go ahead. Go ahead, you're scared. Feel free. It's scary. Well, like, come join me. It's lonely at the top. I'm so bored up here. I want to laugh.

Oh, I've scaled them out in a thousand times. Oh, I want to laugh. Give me a laugh. Oh, yeah, I haven't had a laugh in so long. Give me a little laugh. Come on. Do you ever get one of these where you have, like, men? This actually just happened to me last week when I did like a work event,

but I was hosting something and it was like, there were comics there and like one of them I love, the other ones I didn't really know that well, but there wasn't Guy there. Sorry. And after the, after the show, we went into this green room and he was like, I've never met this man.

I've never heard of him. Like, he's like, you know, you honestly, you know what, Drew, you're like, you're like, funny. You ever get one of those? Oh, actually. An actually kind of tone. You're like actually pretty fun.

You're actually funny. Yeah. Or they'll kind of punch up something that you said. I had a friend who is a guy who is funny. They exist. and is a comedian and he was telling me a story and he's also someone who's like very blunt

and I speak very bluntly too which is like a really refreshing friendship to have with the man like I could say I could give any feedback and he go huh and he would let me say whatever I wanted and it feels good. It feels so good it's not hard so and he was talking

and he was telling a story where he was in a room on a show or something and it was two other women comedians and they were talking and one of them was talking about their joke and I think like the other woman was like oh yeah and da-da-da-da-da-da-da And he's like, and then I just, I brought up another joke she said, and I said, like, and I noted it, basically. And he goes, and they both got really quiet and it was really uncomfortable. And I went, so yeah, so I think like it's so ultimately, honey, don't, I think don't, just don't even risk that. I think. Don't, don't stick your neck out like that. Yeah, I think that's one of those times where unsolicited advice is like, wait for them to turn to you. Wait for them to go, what do you think? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or I go stick to the joke they're talking about. Don't go, you had another joke that I thought.

Well, since you're taking feedback There was, he goes, there was a hush over the crowd when you did this joke and I feel like if, I feel. And I'm sure you noticed, but I just figure, I'm sure you know, I probably bring it up. You're probably reeling. Oh, God, that was painful.

How'd that feel? Not good, huh? I do have some notes for you. They washed over and he was like, totally, I want, like, that's the nice thing too. I think with like a nice guy, you know, with a man who's like not experiencing too much pain in life, which is a beautiful place to be. Right.

I would just be like, don't do that again. That's bad. And they'll go. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. They're just like.

They're like, all right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, oh, yeah. I guess that makes sense. Right.

Right. Right. Must be nice, huh? To fucking exist in that ignorant spot. Yeah. They're like, I love the weekend. And I get the weekend. It's the best days of the week.

Oh my God. It's infuriating. And also I envy it. Yeah. I'm like, oh, that would be awesome to chill there. That'd be so sick. But it's the same thing. Like that guy, this happened to me last week, that guy was like, you're actually funny, which when I do commercials, when I do shoots of any kind, like, there's always at least one guy who's like a grip, a camera guy, sound guy, whatever, who feels the need to go out of their way to tell me, you're actually really funny.

The tone is always too, like, when I heard we were going to be doing this with you today, I was like, uh, who? And then you came and you did it and I thought, wait a minute. And I found my. I like it's almost that as if I discovered you you're hey I discovered you hope you make it one there you know what it also happens when it's like sometimes a man will tell you that you're beautiful in a way where you're kind of like I know people have told me yeah yeah yeah that's what I've heard but they say in a way where they're like you I would I've gotten this a couple of times where I will be like they'll either tell it to you where you could tell they think that you don't get it a lot where they might they're like she, a girl like her probably doesn't get a lot.

This is going to make her day when I say this. She's a, you know, or they'll be like, you've a really unique beauty. What the hell? Like, they're like, you've a really unique sort of look or like kind of beauty. Or they'll like compliment you in a way where you go, people think I'm pretty. I'm like, maybe not everybody. Listen, maybe not everybody. Yeah.

Okay. But you're not the, you can't think you're the first. You're like, when did they sell you? I'm like. No. You're like, I just actually. mean like people are always saying I'd be a good homemaker they're saying I'm good at vacuuming they tell me that I have a face for radio but you have changed that you really you think you think

I could be no way dude girls where like where morning's like I don't think I'm like a model and like Shoshan and Ray are like well no not like a model well obviously not like I'm no and she's like honestly like that that's crazy the unique beauty thing is so funny. It makes me laugh too because I feel like they think they're being so like different in their approach like the way that they choose to compliment you in that way. I also think too the next time you hear that or someone anyone hears that I would honestly be like you know what I was planning on killing myself today and now I'm not going to. You're like one second take a gun out of your waistband you're like I won't be needing this later.

I don't need that. That means the world to that means the fucking world to me, bro. Oh, that means a fucking world to me, bro. Just make it so over the top, like, oh my God, oh my God, thank you. It's also like a guy who's never looked in the mirror before, because he's never had to. Yeah, because he's ugly and that's just across the board. And guess what?

Whether he is or isn't, doesn't matter. Just doesn't matter. He's immediately ugly to me when you're on some bullshit like that. It doesn't matter. I know, that's how I'm not thinking about how he looks. He's not thinking about how he likes. But you felt the need to compliment my looks. Anyone ever told you you're beautiful, I bet not.

Not. But you never get that, huh? I bet you never get that. I bet your ugly ass never hears that, huh? You never. I bet you see all the other girls and you say, I wish they would look at me. I wish I looked like that. Wish I looked like that.

I know, that's like when I was a, I told this horrifying story about going to prom with a Mormon, my junior of high school. Wow. Yeah, terrible experience. Did you grow up like in a Mormon community around? No, not at all. Oh, one little bit. Just one loose? Yeah, just one loose caught me.

One loose. Like a wild salmon, you know what I mean? Wow. Honestly, like, he was awful, and I sent I or his way metaphysically constantly. Yeah. But I do remember explicitly, like, one of, this reminds me of that was like, you know, you're like kind of getting to know each other. So you're doing this bullshit banter in high school.

And I was like, well, what's your type? Like, I'm trying to be nice. Your type, yeah. And he's, well, he asked me, what's your type? And then I said, being in high school, I'm trying to think of your type. Right. Right. Like, anyone who talks to me.

Right. Like, exactly. Like, well, and then when he asked me, I was like, you know, like, someone nice. and like funny and like gets along with my family. Like I'm keeping it real general. And then I asked him like, what about you to be polite again? And he's like, I like short white girls with glasses. Oh.

Yeah, to my face. We were sitting across from each other at a table. I was like. And you're like, okay. Well, I'm missing a few of those things. You're like, what do I cling to? Yeah, I was like, okay. He said that.

I remember feeling so shocked to my core because I was like, how am I supposed to like, I went, Oh, really? And he goes, yeah, I go. All right. Like, I'm 16, by the way. I don't know how to pivot in this conversation. When you're 16, it's like, everybody likes short girls.

Short white girls with glasses specifically. I like when you can pick them up. It's like, love is blind where they ask if, like, they have an active lifestyle or like, could I pick you up or something? Like, that kind of thing. It's like, no. Whether you can or can't doesn't really matter.

If you tried to piggyback me, my feet would drag along the floor behind you. So don't. We can try it, but. Yeah, I was like, okay, don't worry less about picking up more about how much money do you make. Well, that's the other thing. It's always, like, especially when you're really young, like when you're both teenagers. It's like, I'm for sure that that guy was kind of like, but here I am with you. Like, none of those girls can't get attention from the one short white girl with glasses in our grade.

And he was from Utah and Mormon. So, like, yeah, that tracks. Right. I just, like, really didn't expect him to give me such a very fucking literal answer. I thought you were going to say someone funny. Yes. Whatever the fuck. No, they're not going to say someone funny.

Oh, of course not. Well, not funnier than me. Sure, we not. And I'm funnier than most men. So now what? They're not going to ask. They don't want that. And if they say that, they're lying.

They don't want that. I mean, what's nice about being in your 30s is most of the time if, like, you find yourself around a group of guys and you're, you know, and you're like really rip, and you're really ripping and you're really going. They'll like it. You know, especially like knowing other performers. They really like it. I haven't had this experience in so long.

where you're like you're not making fun of them you're just being you're having a funny night yeah yeah and you're on you're sparkling you know and and you could tell it's like really whatever and you see a guy kind of be like kind of his face turning sort of like she's disgusting to me like I love that feeling yes that feeling where they're like to me feels like what I imagine smelling salts feel like when they like crack them and they go yeah that's how that feels to me when I you're growing a fat you're You're getting big like a dragon from sleeping beauty. That's how I feel too. Yes.

It's like when you're sucking all of their soul, it's like a dementer kind of deal. Like I'm sucking the soul out of you because you're realizing in real time, you're not that funny. Not that funny, but then I go, don't drop the energy, come on. Hey, stay with me.

You're thinking sad thoughts. Come on. It's not about you. It's about me right now. It's about the energy. It's about the energy. I love that about you. Honestly, what's your sign?

Gemini. Oh, T. What are you? I'm a Virgo. Oh, Mercury. Yeah. We're just talking. Period.

Look at us. Yeah. We just go, go, go. But speaking of your astrological sign, I do have fun facts about you. You do. Yes, that we, I would like to go over with you now. And then you can let me know if they're fun. Okay.

Okay. So, oh, in this one, it says you played Shigo in the live action Kim Possible movie. I did. That was fun. What an iconic role. That was like one of my first jobs. I love that. I know.

How was that experience? It was really crazy. I'm not. I came from. from truly like I had not done a lot of acting. And then I did that job and they had me doing just like things that I now know are not normal of normal acting jobs.

Like an action movie and this was like a kids movie, but I'm still like on wires and you're doing a lot of stunts training, which is really cool if like stunt training jobs are really, really cool. They're like the coolest people who work in this business. But they also had me in like a leather neoprene suit. I can't like, and I'm not used to like using my body thinking about,

I've only used it for comedy. They're like, could you stand up straight? when you walk and also be like kind of and I'm not even I was the first time I to like think about my body so it was like sort of so many things I've never done since but it was a really cool interesting it was really really neat and you did a lot of your own stunts on that movie no no you basically when you're doing stunts you have to do it just enough so that they can cut you together with a stunt double and like for the fight

choreos so you will learn fight choreography and they will try to film as much of it with you as they can but then someone who is like truly like an acrobatic performer. Yeah, like a professional. A stunt professional. A stunt professional. And they're doing like great and like it's really crazy with a lot of like action movies or whatever. So much of the movie is stunt performers. That's so interesting. It really is. I guess it makes sense. But it makes complete sense. But so much of the movie is them. Like and now I will watch things and be able to see.

Especially things like I've done or in where you're able to see or like things that have like big group. I did this movie. this Paul Figue movie called Jackpot, and they had a lot of, like, fight sequences. And in that, it's like, they're not even stunt doubles. Those are, like, stunt performers who are the actors in these fight scenes. Oh, interesting. And so they also are doing, like, a lot of capital A acting as well.

It's really fascinating. That's so interesting. I have a running joke with Meg Salter that, like, I'm going to be cast as the Rock's body double before they make me a lead. They're going to be like, get in there, bitch. They are going to put me in a ball cap and tell me to get to work. And then the Rock is going to be cast. about it. That is kind of what it looks like, though. You will see, like, yourself. And then you'll see

someone who, like, does not look like you at all. Oh, girl, I know they're going to cast a man. At all in like a shiny wig sort of like flipping around and the audience can tell me. You go, that doesn't flip me. I know it will be like a grown full grown man. I know whatever the hell it is. They're like, sorry. Only men are as big as you. I had to cast a man as your double. I'm sorry. Sometimes they do go. Sometimes they do go. We just. Sometimes they're like, we just can't find a girl big enough right now. And I'm like, no worries, keep looking. Or like now sometimes I will go, oh, I worked with this girl.

Let me send you her stuff because there's only like a couple really old. Well, now I got it. Now I have another fear I have to work on. I'll send you the gals. I'll send you the gals. Yeah, oh, like, yeah, send me your girls if they've gained about a hundred pounds. And then maybe, yeah. No, I will send you the.

It's just not going to matter. They're going to wig them up. Hey, movie magic. They're going to wig them up. I know. That's editing problem. Lippin around. Okay. Next fact. It says that you used to be an entertainment journalist and you wrote an article in 2016 called I binge watched Orange is the New Black Season 4 at 3 a.m. And I don't know who I am anymore. Yeah. So journalists is so loose. Like I was not a journalist. Basically it was like the big web days. And my job was like I was not cracking stories. It was like another bigger outlet would write something. And then we would write the same thing and just pad it for,

word count. So I would do like a person, I would do like a first paragraph sentence for personality. Right. And then it's like the facts. It's like ground floor substack. Yes, but sometimes you'd like live watch things like Orange is the New Black. But that was also like kind of hard because then you're like, this is actually a lot of writing. You know, you're like this original stuff is actually hard. I want to go back to. I never finished Orange is the New Black, but I did watch a couple seasons of it. They had a lot of seasons. Yeah, they did. I never finished it. I have an Ius though with that. I think everybody does. I think like our brains are a little.

Just watching new things. So many things. Yeah. And we're like, we're going, it's longer than 30 seconds. I don't think I can. Well, I don't know where I'll be in 30 seconds. Yeah, well, like, how am I supposed to scroll on my phone? And also, like, now, like, when I tell my friends, like, I really want to watch, like, something.

They're like, is it like a show I can, like, scroll on my phone now? Yeah. And I'm always like, no. Well, you know sometimes that there will be now when you're developing stuff. There is an intention to where they're like, reiterate the plot. And it's like we can't naturally really do that. People are just going to have to like ask someone in the room. Like your mom would.

You know what I mean? Like how my mom's like asking questions before it started. It's like we've seen the same amount of the movie. I'm actually right with you. I'm like I'm discovering it along with you, girl. We're discovering in the moment. Let's let it play out. I've joked about that with my mom because like my mom, I love Broadway and stuff.

When they made dear Evan Hansen into a movie, did Ben Platt look and saying, yeah, of course he did. But obviously I had to go see it. You had to see it. So when we went, I was already annoyed because we were late and I missed my favorite song, which is the opening song waving through a window. That's my favorite song. And do they not reprise it? No. Well, like at the end, towards the end, but like I missed my favorite song. And I was like, oh. And then we're sitting there. My mom has never seen this play. She has no idea.

She didn't even know it was a musical. So when we were sitting there, she goes, who is that? Who is that? Mind you, we're like 10 minutes into the movie. So I know what's happening because I've seen the play. But like my mom does. Yeah. Who is that? Is this a musical? Wait, who is that? To not know something is a musical. It's pretty jar. That happened to moment And I took my mom and sister again To see Into the Woods Like when I watched that movie My sister is this a musical?

Holy fuck stop talking to me You can really get lost during Sondheim too You can really get She goes they sing the whole time I'm like yeah it's a Sondheim I don't know what that means Both of you need to stop talking to me during the movie You're gonna miss actually a lot if you're talking

Yeah like I had to tell my mom I was like you need to stop I told him please stop you need to stop please And you're missing literal facts As we're doing this You're missing more All the lyrics are different You actually can't miss any In the woods, they're not gonna, there's not gonna be a chorus.

There's not, seriously. You need to pay attention. You have to walk in. This is an opera. That's why, that's how I felt telling my friends to watch Chief of War. Have you watched Chief of War on Apple TV? Oh my God.

Are they singing? It's on Apple TV. Okay. It's so good. It's about the Hawaiian Kingdom. Okay. Jason Moa, like, has been working on it for like 10 years. Finally got it greenlit.

Okay. It's almost 90% of it's in Hawaiian. So like, is it subtitles or you're just kind of, okay. They're subtitles. So you have to watch. Like, so I was like telling some of my friends. watching the subtitles anyway. I know, but I was like telling my friends, you can't scroll during this.

You'll miss everything. If you don't, if you don't watch and lock in, you're going to miss everything. So I get it. It's like, and it counts as reading a book. Right. If you're watching, if you're watching some of the subtitles and it's in another language, you are reading a book. Yeah.

At that point. That's, you're a polyglot. You are. You are. You start telling people. Good use of polyglot. Hard to work in sometimes. That was very, that's where it goes.

That's improv, baby. That's improv, baby. That's improv. Okay. Next fun fact. your castmates on another simple favor oh helped you tape your audition for big mistakes while you were filming in it yeah I well I don't know if it was big mistakes or another one but I do remember I had a couple of auditions um while I was there and one of them was um like a live

audition it wasn't big mistakes it was like I had a zoom like screen test audition okay um I don't know why I'm like I didn't sign an NDA it was for the the paper with um and it was with Greg Daniels And so like you're doing scripts, you're doing like some improv. Yeah. And yeah, it was me and Alex Newell. And I was like, can you help me? You please help me. I love them. I know. Alex is the best. And it is just really funny when you have such a talented person helping you do something where you're like, I'm so sorry. But I need you. I'm going to need a call in a favor. I really need you. And I would only feel comfortable asking Alex. Yeah. We spent that whole time. We were in Italy for a while and we spent. We were in Italy for a while and we spent that whole time together and I would have only felt comfortable asking them to do that with me.

It would have been insane if I was like, Blake. Hey, Queen. Hey Blake. I don't know if you read for things. Yeah. But I have to read for something. I'm kind of big. And you're not busy.

So. You got how many kids four here? Yeah. Anyway. I can't ask Alex again. You think you'd do it. Right. Okay.

This last one says that you used to be roommates in New York with your sister Natalie. who also does comedy and one time they were fighting so loud your other roommate tried to break them up and said no this is just how we talk to each other yeah yeah we don't my sister and I don't have we're five years apart so we don't fight a lot okay um and actually like five years apart is sort of like you're having your own high school experience you're having like all your own friends you're like so we weren't we're not big like screaming sister fighters growing up right same same with me and my sister how far apart are you we're two years apart two year oh so it could have been have bit you guys are you really really close yeah we're super yeah because that that I could see us really getting into it two years apart like you're in high school together you're having like friend overlap like yeah we did have a lot of that yeah that could be that could be stressful no we never had that but then we lived together New York for a while we lived together for like five years and it was more like you are so comfortable with each other right you do talk to each other crazy yeah that's true and I will say we lived with a third friend who was kind of in the sweet spot of like

she could kind of like have a Natalie day or have a Taylor day and kind of like I would be doing the same thing I would kind of be like I'm in a good spot with everybody like all the time you know a friend you can fight in front of yeah definitely well no one wants that but yeah and also but also that she kind of gets to play both sides yeah if she's like sick of my sister she can like hang with me if she's sick of me they can talk shit about me kind of yeah and it's my business one time I did hear the minute I closed the door they talked too soon and the sound traveled up the holiday I was like I can hear you and they laughed but This was sort of like we were not, we were not getting in fights when we lived together.

And we didn't really snipe at each other. But it means that you do have that closeness that every once in a while, probably like a handful of times in our lives, we've gotten in like a blowout fight. Yeah. And it's like you've known each other your whole lives. And then you have all your like your childhood stuff too. And so you're like yelling each other and like your face like shaking. Yeah. Like literally only your sister could get you to that spot.

And to be a third person in a space where that's. fight is happening. Oh yeah. I'm in my home. Well, I can't go anywhere. And we're doing like a traveling fight. Like I remember that fight. Like we're doing a traveling fight like you'll be yelling at her following her around. And she's like, ain't done, ain't done. And then like you'll upset your thing. And then she like comes back after you. And I didn't have a bedroom door. So I had a curtain up like in this weird dining room that we had turned into my bedroom. And she's like pulling it around her face and screaming to me. And I'm trying to close the her face and she's like, and I like, get it.

Really bad. It was really bad. Only sisters get it. And the whole time you're just like, I'm just never going to have to apologize for this. And it's not going to be in about an hour. In about an hour, none of this is going to mean anything. I'm not going to be mad. I don't know. No, it really.

It is one of those things where you're kind of like, like my sister and I, like, it'll get to a point like if we're fighting, which is rare. But like if we do fight and it's preventing us from like, we're like, I'm not talking to her. I always know we're fighting because we don't, she doesn't send me TikTok. She doesn't send me anything funny. She's not engaging with anything that I post. Like, I know she's mad at me then. And vice versa, I'm sure. But sometimes I'll see something that's so funny that I'm like, okay, fight over.

I have to tell you this. I just saw either, I'm not on TikTok anymore because of my time management skills are really poor. I had to delete it, but I saw a reel, which I also am not allowed to be on there, really. But I saw a reel and it was like something, it was like what you see when you and your boyfriend are in a fight. and it's like a wooden carved six foot big foot on a flatbed truck passing by and you're like, I want to tell. I know the type of shit I see when I'm fighting with my boyfriend. Yes, I'm going to talk.

I saw one like that too recently. Yeah, it's very similar to the sisters. It's the way of being like, send her a little. Or like sometimes like my man is like that friend where he's like seen us bicker. Like very rarely and he's also seen blowout fights, but he doesn't do anything. Like he never really gets involved,

which is good for him. Don't. But the one time he said, something was because we were, I forget, we were like at Coachella, it was a rough fucking couple days. But we were like standing, my man's in the middle. My sister and I are like this. And we're like bickering at each other.

And it really was we couldn't hear what the other person said and we both got offended for different reasons. So we were both arguing. And that was the one and only time my man has said anything. He went, hey, guys, let's not. And as soon as he said that, we were like. Yeah, both. Yeah.

We're both like, now we have a common enemy. That's exactly what we did. our roommate, we were like, first of all, don't ever talk to my sister that way, ever again. Whoa, we're like, this isn't even that bad. You don't even know a bad day. Because you're both embarrassed. You're both like, I was acting embarrassed. That's why you were saying I'm an embarrassed man. Yeah, we were both like humiliated. And then we kind of laughed and then we were like, you never say anything. Oh, someone's

feeling brave. Yes. Oh, someone wants to talk during fights now. And you're perfect. Yeah. Oh, so someone wants to talk during fights. Oh, and you want to join? That's why. And then he was like, God, no, I was just saying, you guys misheard each other because he heard everything. Right. So then he was like, you guys misheard each other. He's fully in the right. And then we're both like, yeah. Yeah.

Anyways. Like, we're probably going to have a good day going forward. This might have actually put a damper on your day, but we're actually going to be better than ever. When someone else, like, irritates you, like, exactly like that. And you're like, well, let's all talk shit on her now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And how dare she? Yeah.

Let's link up. And how dare she get upset now that we ruined her day with our arguing? The other day, my sister, I forget what we were talking about. Oh, it was like us with one of our friends. And we were laughing about something that we remembered. And our friend was like, I don't remember that. Like, where was I? And then my sister was like, oh, that was the night you got mad at us and you went back to your room.

So we had a lot of fun without you. To find out that the night turned around is like, whoa. Yeah, she literally was like, what the fuck? You guys were joking. Yeah. And no one woke me up. And no one woke me up. So you guys were only kind of being like miserable one hour.

Couldn't be salvaged. when I was there. So I get it. Oh, man. Well, that's all my fun facts for you. Cool. Did they feel fun? They were fun facts.

Okay, good. Oh, I have one more. Oh, she said, you have a bonus one. She said you have a bonus one. Oh, my God. Where you had to step by step copy of Bob Ross painting while wearing overalls. I don't think I agreed to wear overalls, but I don't think I would do that because sometimes they will cut you right up the front.

If you tried to clip them Whenever anyone pretends with me in a romper anything Sorry to come back to being tall But it's like I'm not putting a one piece anything on No way, yeah straight up the gooch Get real my two lips out painting You wish Yeah I'm giving claw machine between my legs

This is like a bikini overall In my name of this Yeah I'm horrible It's pulling up it hurts It feels horrible Because you have a long torso Yes very long And people will try to put me in it

And I'll go It's not gonna work but Yeah we can try it And you can laugh at it And he can laugh and laugh. Silly eye look. You big Bob Ross fan? Sure.

I mean, I think is he so with us? I don't think so, no. Oh, well. RIP. RIP. That was a beautiful career. And like what was it? Yeah, well, I'm sure the painting looked beautiful.

Do you like to paint? No. I'm really bad at like visual arts, like painting, drawing. Me too. I'm good at like, oftentimes I will try something new. And I'm not talking about anything like really. of the wet but every now and then I'll try something new and be good at it right away and I'll be like maybe that's true of everything and it's just so weird that it's like an art form and like I'm technically an artist and it's so ugly yeah I don't like to do things I'm not very good at either it's bad yeah when I'm drawing or painting it looks like a stupid baby did it I don't enjoy that like a baby that like a baby that they'd be worried about they would like get the baby testing you know what I mean they'd be like motor skills or not yeah they're like well we recommend you getting tested before the next grade.

Truly, they're like her handwriting something. She's not pen to paper. It's not something's not something's missing. We're missing something. I just never. Well, that fact, did you find that one fun? I guess even though it reminded me of something I'm bad at. And an outfit that looks ugly on me. Yeah, so thanks for that, Amanda, by the way. Well, thank you so much for coming on the show.

Oh my God, I have a best time. I'll love you. Yeah. I think you're a hoot in a holler. Thank you. And I would love to close us out if you could give us some tips on like getting into acting, like kind of like the pursuit of trying to get there and like how like that whole process goes. Like obviously a lot of people that watch me want to work in this industry. But I also am asking selfishly for myself because I'm venturing into acting right now. I love whatever advice you have.

People, it's really weird when people give advice about getting into acting because then there's like never concrete advice really. And it really is like that really. it really is so confusing in that way. And I think sometimes people focus on like representation or whatever. And I think the thing that ultimately works the best for someone who has not done like who doesn't even like has like no platform, hasn't done anything, hasn't put themselves out there creatively is like if you haven't done anything yet or you are a creative person and you're like, why am I not getting somewhere?

You do need other people. Even if it's like a solo pursuit, you just do need to be working with other people, creating with other people, help somebody else on their thing. like something small. Like if someone you, if you see someone's doing like a student film, if you see someone's doing like a short or something, like help them on that in some way,

get into a community with other people. It's going to like, not just so you have people to work with on your thing, but it's also going to like really inform you of how things get made, how things get done. It's an industry where you can pay to go to school, but then you're going to have to go into the business and learn it on the fly.

Regardless. Regardless. So it is like things that aren't paid, which is another really frustrating part of this business. It's true though, you're right. But it's like use your spare time however you can, even if it's slowly, to meet other creative people. Yeah, that is like the best. Yes, be in the environment.

It's such great advice. I think that's wonderful. It also is so inspiring too when you work with people also who work in other mediums that maybe you're not thinking of initially. I would love to meet like musicians. Yeah. Like talking to, I've talked to so many musicians on this show too and just generally, but like talking to them about songwriting, about producing. Like all of it is. fascinating to me. It is fascinating. So much so to the point where it has really inflamed my

hubris and thinking I can be a DJ. That is something I'm working on. You could definitely be a DJ. I'm working on it. You could definitely be a DJ. If Joe Jonas can do it, I can do it. You would be an amazing DJ. I think so. You'd be an incredible DJ. Also, it is kind of like, it is just doing the thing. Right. And if you like it, you will just get better and better at better. Whether you're writing something, whether whatever, it's like, I think sometimes people think, especially when you have like no money and no time, you want your first thing out to be. perfect. And the secret and like the lie of it all is that it's not about the thing being perfect. It's about you're going to make like 900 things. Yeah. You're going to do it over and over again.

If your wildest dreams work out, what it does is it opens a door to more work. Right. And so you're back at square one. You're back at square one. You're back at square one. So it is just about like just do it. Just get it done. I was writing something once and I hated it, hated it. And I didn't finish it. And I didn't, I dropped it. Like 90 pages and I dropped it. And my friend who is a writer and director, he was like, it's just more important to finish it. To do something, finish writing it, finish doing it. Yeah, and that is the point of art, right? Like, the point of art is to create.

Just create it. Not necessarily to, like, get accolades for, get paid for it. Although that is the dream. Yes. That shouldn't be the point. It shouldn't be the point. Yeah, it's like a happy vibe. Do a DJ said where there's a big space of silence in between and then you play the next song.

It's just for my two friends. You're like, one second, one second. Yeah, it's like just for my man and my dogs. But no, you just have to do it. and like enjoy it and have other people around because it is just so much more fun. Amazing. Yeah.

I think you're incredible. And I can't wait to see you cast in a million billion more things. You too. I hope so. Yeah. Please never stop. Yeah. We're hard little workers.

Please, please, please. Please. Yeah, I'm talking all that shit, but I will do anything. And if they can make short men look normal size on camera, they can make us. They can make us. Yes, I would. Do you lie in your slates about your height? No.

I actually found out. I slate at 510, but I am 511. but I only discovered in pandemic that I'm 511. I see. So technically I measured myself, I got bored. And I leave that inch off. So yeah. I literally told my acting coach as well, do you think it, you think it's okay if I start

lying in my slates? And he was like, yeah. And I go and I was, he's like, but don't go crazy. Like don't say like five five. Well, the problem is that it's like five eight to six foot is like, it's all the same to them. If I say anything over five, six, I'm seven foot four. It is true.

So that's why I'm like, oh, the lying is not my sister lies by. inch two and it's kind of like girl okay I'm gonna I started lying by two I'm not even kidding that's fine I started telling people 510 it's for you it's for you and I do think that there is sort of a like people hear that differently I'm telling you hear 510 differently yeah when I say six foot they're like damn next I know I know but even 510 is in the double digits of bye you know what I mean like once you get past 9 59 is kind of like oh statue as 519 oh 519 by the time you'd like 510 511 they're like oh oh damn like okay so the first you're like okay so the fringe

of the camera it's like to get the other girl in the frame they're like yeah and then the the male lead is as tall as three apples tall they're putting him well they put him on a box we need that so we need more we need more tall guys magic yes of course let's work that movie magic let's thank you so much for coming i like you're incredible i love you having i love you having i love you having fun here and being here where can everybody find you um i am on instagram where i'm only allowed to log in once a day because of my time management at Taylor Ortega. And there is another Taylor-Rtega. It's okay if you find her, but she does get tagged as me sometimes.

Sort of a lifelong thing. Lucky her, honestly. It's working out for her. Listen, I hope she likes it. She's very kind about it. She's very patient with me. And on big mistakes. Yes.

How exciting. Oh my gosh. Make sure y'all go follow Taylor on literally everything if you're not already. I'm sure you are. And make sure you check out big mistakes on Netflix starring this Taylor-O-Taylor Oh my gosh, how exciting. So amazing, so wonderful. Thank you so much for joining us.

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