The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - ENGOO AND STUPID Ft. Cat Cohen | Episode 197

Episode Date: November 26, 2025

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Like your phone's watching. So we'll be like, ha, ha, this is so good. Hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me, your favorite. Everybody knows me who cares about me. On to the guest. Today we have the iconic, the legendary, the unbelievably hilarious, Kat Cohen. Oh my God. Oh my God. I'm crying. I'm crying. I'm screaming. I'm crying. Finally, let's get into it. Oh, my God. Let's.

What's going on? First of all, a huge fucking fan. Likewise. We were kicking hell up before this. We said amazing things that could never go on air. We did and you'll never, ever, ever see it. You'll never see in a million years. I'm so happy to have you. I couldn't be happier to be here. We did a show together. Never forget. Yeah, never forget. The crowd was so unique. The crowd was strange. And if y'all were there, love ends so much light to you and your families. If you were there, loved you, you were the best. There were some people fully just like walking around.

Which respect, you know, have it. It's their life. Yeah, I was, it did feel kind of strange. It felt like some of them were seat fillers, even though I know they weren't. But it did feel like some of them were. They just had no idea what they signed up for. You just unlocked a memory for me. I was a seat filler at the Tony Awards.

Were you? The first year I moved to New York. And I was like, I've made it. What year was that? 2013. Oh my god, T. I know. Are you a Broadway girl? Do you like Broadway? Of course. I love Broadway. That's why I had to hear about your big event. Yes. I did go see you wicked. Yeah. Oh, I did go see Wicked last night. Let's just say I am changed for the better. I would say. Yeah, I would say change for the better for good even. Yeah. It was unbelievable. Really? It was so fucking good. It was so good.

I did, but not at the parts that I thought like I felt like I was holding steady through for good. Yeah. I was like holding steady, getting misty-eyed, holding steady. But after the song, there is another part that had tears rolling down my face. Oh, my God. Did not expect it at all. I can't wait.

Blu me away. I'm ready. And how was the party? The party was cool. Was it wild? Was it wet and wild? It was wet and wild. Dry and wild.

It was wicked. Go off. It was fine. It was just fucking freezing. Why? They had it outside. Oh. The whole carpet was outside.

Oh. Yeah. It was 30 degrees last night. So it's New York in the winter just so you know for contact. And it was outside. It was a big like circle. And so it was fucking freezing outside. But then I was like, oh, well, obviously everything will be inside.

And you go inside and then like obviously the theater's indoors. But then there was like a lot of, I think they had a lot of fan fans there, like just of the franchise itself and stuff. So I did like a low key meet and greet in one part. So I was like, okay, maybe I should go somewhere else for a bit to sit down. And so the only area that I could go were like all my friends were at was outside again. So I got to sit on the patio. You can't win. Yeah, I can't win.

God, it's so hard. I know. So you're a California girl. Yeah, I am. And you're here for one second. But you come here a lot. I do come here a lot. I'm so not built for the like winter at all.

I think that's a past me being in California girls as I'm also a brown girl. So I feel like I'm also a big heavy sweater. I sweat pretty easily. Okay. I love. but you would so you would think I love cold weather right but I do not and here you're flipping the script yeah and here I am being different you like to sweat where it's hot yeah I like I'd prefer to sweat than be cold I guess is my point I would also rather you know god where are you from originally well I'm

from Houston okay where it's the hottest city on earth so I'm always in hell so my whole life my hair was like frizzy as fuck like I was like get me the humidity's crazy I was like please get me out yeah to the big city where I can make my dreams come true. And now I'm here and... I know, I want to talk more about your journey through stand-up because I really want to know. Did you start young? Like, did you start, like, college? As a child. No, can imagine.

Yeah, as a child, child stand-up comedian. No, it's funny. In college, I was like a theater kid growing up, obviously, but in college, I remember I wanted to audition for the improv group. But it was, get this, all men. A tail as old as time. And I was too scared because I didn't know myself. And how can you love yourself if you don't know yourself? Right.

So I didn't audition. But then when I moved to New York, I did like the UCB thing. Okay. Remember those days? I think so. It was like, it was the golden era of improv. It was so fun to go to Ask Cat if you know, you know.

And it was like this fun scene to be a part of. And yeah, basically I would just see people do stand up. And eventually I was like, you see enough bad people and you're like, okay, I think I can do that. Yeah, yeah, especially men. You see enough terrible men do stand up? You're like, I mean, it can't be that hard. They're doing crazy things up there. There's no way it can be that hard.

The darkness of the open mic scene cannot be explained. Oh my God. Yeah, that free will, they need that taken from them. Exactly. Especially in the stand-up area. So that's sort of my journey. That's interesting. Wait, when did you move to New York right after?

Right after Call. Oh, big call. That's what I call it. Call. After I graduated, Call, I go, I threw my hat in the air. I was like, yes, let's go. Hopped in a taxi, and I was like, boop, beep, beep. And no problems ever since.

And believe you're not famous to media. Yeah, the bus goes by and splashes me. I mean, Carrie's skirt. Instant success. Have to be. I know. She was. Easy.

I know. I still haven't watched the latest season of, and just like that. I honestly have never seen sex in the city, if you can believe it. That's so amazing because now you have something to look forward to. I know. If I could be experienced it for the first time? Well, that's how I feel because I'd never seen housewives. Oh, yeah.

And then this past year, I dove into New York from the beginning, life changing. Tea. Are you a Bravo girl? I'm not really a Bravo girl, but my sister loves the Mormon wives. Oh, I haven't watched it. And she was like, like, that's like the first reality show like housewives adjacent that she's gotten into. And she was like, honestly, I think I might start housewives. You're ever such a treat.

And so are you when you watch SATC, you're going to lose your shit. It's just like cozy. That's what everyone tells me. I feel like, I do feel like that about certain shows. There are shows where I'm like, God, what I wouldn't give to experience it for the first time? Yeah, what are your go-toes? One of them's vampire diaries. Never seen.

You have, oh, God, what I would give. Now, like, how happy I am. Yeah. Look at the gift you gave me. Yeah. Or Glee for the first time. Yeah, I mean, glee raised, raised us. Had to.

It's like, even when I watched the Wicked, did you watch the Wicked, like, one-night-only performance? The big, like, thing they did on Peacock. There's, like, a thing on Peacock where they, like, performed a lot of the songs live and then, like, some of the new songs live. and in that they do a duet like Cynthia and Ariana do a duet like happy days or whatever it's like a barbara strise and Judy Garland duet you know the one they do that duet and my sister was like honestly I was shocked I knew all the words but then I remember it's because they did it in glee like Rachel and Kurt do that oh my god what a time what I would give what about you any other shows besides sex in the city or housewife? Oh let me think are you big shows girl like do you like reality or do you like any kind of thing you know growing up I would watch like real shows, no offense to reality, no offense. And then since my brain is atrophied over the past like five years, I would say, now I can only stomach reality.

Right. I did Vanderpump from the beginning. Oh, nice. How was that? Have you? No. But so many of my- You're just the luckiest girl in the world.

It's crazy. I've never seen anything like it. How do they find those people? I want Sandeval to sing at my wedding. I'm sorry. Oh, guess what? Both of us engaged. Oh, look at us.

We start solving. Yeah. When did you get in goo? I got in goo last September. What about you? Last, so it's been like a year? Yes. Okay, so you're over it?

No, honestly, I'm still in my fiance era. Isn't it so fun? Yeah, everything I buy is white. I'm buying things that I embroidered wifey era. Yeah, of course. I'm doing all of the things. Dare I ask, when is the event? Next summer.

Me having no sense of what year it could possibly be. 2027. Oh, my God. Wait, wait, 2026. me thinking it's 2020. And today is, hello. Hello. And goo and stupid.

Hello. Hello. 2026 of summer. Okay, perfect. Summer wedding because you love to sweat. Yes, obviously. Of course. What about you?

I haven't picked a date yet, but you know my dream is to do New Year's Eve next year. That's such a good idea. I know a girl who got married on New Year's Eve, honestly. And you're like, and now she's dead. Yeah, and now that girl divorced. Good luck. Was it fun though? No, it was, I didn't go to the wedding, I just saw the pics.

Oh, she sounds amazing. Very cute. She didn't invite me, so, you know, there's that. Why are you mad at my friend? Hmm, why's that girl a huge bitch? I'm kidding. I love her, I love her, I would take a bullet for her. Love her, I would literally, ultimately I would die for her, so there's that.

Is that an aura? Yes. Do I need it? Yeah. This is one of those old people things where you're like, oh, I'd love to track my sleep. I know. And how do you sleep? honestly I would say pretty good unless I'm working so since I'm working 24-7 not well I was gonna say don't you work non-stop so not well yeah but no it's been honestly really great and also I track my period on it too which is helpful do you notice a big difference if you have a drink before you sleep versus when you don't yeah it not really because I'm not a huge drinker but like mostly if I eat late that's like my thing and then my aura ring will say things like if you eat a heavy meal late you won't sleep that well I'm like okay oh guess what the only

I like in this life. Oh, sorry. The few joys that I have. The bowl of pasta I ate before bed last night would make my aura ring explode off my finger. It was so good. It would punish me for something, for real. Okay. Wait, back to your obsession with Vanderpump really quick. Oh, right, right. So when I, I know nothing about, I know very little about that world. Right. But I do know that there is a restaurant. Of course. Yes. Okay. And I literally, my sister was explaining something to me about Vanderpump and I was like, and they work at the restaurant. Like I thought they were a family-owned restaurant. It is kind of like that, though.

But they were like a one big family that owned the restaurant. And that was like the drama was watching them run the restaurant. Right. You're not too far up, except they're all fucking each other. Right. Is the main difference. Well, then she told me that. And I go, well, aren't they all related?

And she was like, no. And I go, I don't know anything about this. Yeah, you go, everything I thought to be true is a lie. I need a minute. It's a process. Yeah. I'm going to step out for a second. Okay. God, it's such a special program.

And I didn't get it. Like people would tell me I'm like, I don't get it. Yeah. And no, I love it. But I should dive back into scripted. Yeah. I think the one consistent reality show I'm loving and living and laughing always is the Great British Baking show. Oh, okay.

Love that one. Right. Every year I clock in, like it's my fucking job. Do they do an American version? They do, but I don't really care for that one. Like they do like a celebrity one too, which is like that one's fine. You gotta get you on there. Which I hate unless they invite me obviously.

Right. And I would love it. It's my favorite show in the world. But the regular one, the normal one, like, I live and die by that show. Like, it's just the best. And the best thing about it is, like, they're competing for literally, like, a cake pan thing. That's it. That's sweet.

That and vibes. Like, that's all they're competing for. I know. I haven't gotten into it. People love it. Americans could never. But, like, they only compete for that one fucking thing. And it's, like, the joy of baking.

That's so pure. I know. And that's why there's always, like, a 20-year-old gay man and, like, a hundred-year-old woman. And they're competing against. against each other. My two besties. And you know what's funny is last season, they had one American on there,

who, like, lived in the UK because his wife was British. But he was, like, born and raised New Yorker. Okay. And so he's living, he's been living in the UK, I think, for like a while now. So he, like, entered the contest. And I was like, no fucking way.

They have an American in there. Me getting America rah! When I'm watching it. Yeah, yeah. For once when I'm watching it in there. Like, all of a sudden I love America. Yeah. And this old man, like, he was,

he did fine the first week. And then, like, the second week, he got sick or, something so he couldn't come. So they can't eliminate anyone because it's not fair. So then the next week he came back. How sick was he? I'm sorry. I don't know, but he was old. So like, he's like in his, my apologies. Sorry, notice respect. So like, I don't know how sick, but he like got sick couldn't come. And then the next week he came back but wasn't feeling the best. And so literally like the first challenge, it just started probably 20 minutes in. He's like standing there drinking coffee and then he goes,

yeah, I can't do this. Walks outside and then they do his interview. He goes, I'm going to go home. home. Then you went home. And honestly, real as fuck. Love him. The ultimate power move. He had a fan in me. Wow.

I said the only American I've seen since I've been watching that show on there quits with two. He's like, you know what? Nah, I'm over it. Get him in this chair. I respect a man who's like, I'm out. I know, for sure. I'm not competing for that cake, 10. I'm out.

That's right. Sometimes on Love Island, they'll leave and I like that. Love Island. I've only ever watched a couple of the UK seasons. Don't start. I've never really watched the American one, although I do know the last season made everyone insane. It was crazy. And it wasn't even fun.

I was like, y'all need to like. I know. I literally made a joke about it. I was like, you guys are watching that shit like how the rich people watch poor people kill each other on Squid Game. Fully. That's how you guys are watching from home. Oh, my God. You guys are watching from home going, die, die, die, die.

Everyone needs to do box breathing. Everyone needs to like hold for four, exhale for four. Like, it was scaring me. But no, I am watching, I am watching TASK. Are you watching that? No, I've heard of it, though. You like? I haven't watched.

It's good. I'm in the middle. Is that scripted? Yeah, and it's like, I love like a, I either like reality or like really dark murder thriller. Love. What's your fave? A woman of range. Yes.

I love, honestly, I'm on, and I, and they always diagnose me when I say this, but I watch the same things like over and over and over again until I get a wild hair at my ass and then I'll watch something new. Right. But a lot of times I like to watch new things when they're all fully out. That makes sense. If they haven't been released, I'm like impatient. So I'm like, I'll just wait.

Chris Fleming once described himself to me as like a culture scavenger. Like he's like after years have gone by and there's, I just get through the rubble like a dirty raccoon. And then I go and watch it. That's kind of how I am too. Now Chris Fleming's the funniest person on earth. I know. And that's just all I have to say about that. It's so upsetting that it's a man.

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TikToks I'm like I never thought in a million years we could get from here to there and it was so seamless we're so lucky to have I know I'm I'm so lucky to be in the same timeline as him. I agree. I literally thought, I saw someone once say that his comedy feels like when you're driving and Google Maps is just rerouting every 10 seconds. Like that's how it feels watching him.

And I was like, when you end up at the same destination, you just take a much of shortcuts. Of laughing. And joy. Of laughing and joy. At the corner of laughing and joy. I know,

because sometimes I'll see comics and I'd be like, so this is hell, why do I do this? Right. And then you remember. It's so important to go back to the source. I agree. I watched him when he was making fun of S&L 50.

Oh, what was he saying? I'm scared. He called Jimmy Fallon the Sme to Lauren Michaels Captain Hook. Brought tears to my eyes. That's the funniest joke I've ever heard. And he probably came up with it on the spot. I'm sick. I'm sick to my stomach.

Oh, my God. I need to study him. I literally, I messaged him once. I was like, I need to study you like Jane Godal. I want to live amongst the chimps for a while. I want to live amongst in the jungle with you. Oh, my God. Totally.

But you were talking about dark murderous shows. Those are your vibes. I know, better for worse. I'm like, I love it. Everything everyone loves, I love that too.

Like true crime podcast, I love that. I do love a true crime documentary. Of course. Loving those. Any good ones lately? I watched that cruise one, the Amy Bradley one.

I know. Where she went missing on the cruise? Where is she? That one's crazy. I think she's still with us. You think? That's what Robbie Hoffman told me too. She, when we talked about it,

I need to hear Robbie talk about Amy Bradley immediately. She asked me, what are your, what are your theories? And I said, honestly, I think she might be dead. Like I was kind of telling, I told her my spiel. And then she goes, okay, well, you're wrong. So this is what I think happened. She told me she thinks she's still alive too.

Oh, my God. And you think she's still with us as well? I do because I think maybe she has a child. And that's why she's laying low and that's why she's staying there. And also she has Stockholm syndrome and whatever. I mean, who knows? I know. That one is so interesting. I also recently watched the Eileen Warnos one. Oh, I've actually never seen that. That one's so tea.

What streamer provides that for us? Netflix. It's on Netflix. Shout out. Yeah, love Netflix. But that one, Eileen Wartnos one, is fucking crazy. I mean, that one's nuts. Yeah, okay, I'm going to dive in there. Yeah. I have to shout out. I think my favorite true crime podcast is called Red Handed. Ooh. Have you ever gotten into that? Anyone? No. I have to shout them out because I just think they do amazing work.

Oh, that's cool. These two British girls. They just, they have the perfect balance of like, they can be a little funny, but they stick to the story and they tell the story well. Yeah. I hate when it veers off. Yeah, you don't want to be too funny. No, because I'm not laughing. I'm not laughing.

It's death. Yeah. Let's all be serious. Yeah. So that's, that's one thing I do like. That's one thing I do like. That's one thing I do like. That's a new segment.

You know what I watched recently, um, Frankenstein. Have you watched the new Frankenstein? haven't seen. T. Gagged? Gagged, honestly. I do really enjoy Gierma del Toro's whimsy.

He has a lot of whimsy about him. But his ability to like make monsters just like, I guess attractive is the word I'm looking for. It's kind of shocking, honestly. Because I love shape of water too. But there's like a scene I was explaining this to my sister,

but there's a scene where like Oscar Isaac like he basically, Victor Frankenstein, if you will. Shout out. He basically is like, oh, fuck, it didn't work. Like, damn, that sucks. And he, like, goes to lay down in the bed. And it's like, he's topless, which I'm like, I mean work, whatever.

I mean, when I'm working on the dead, I want to take my top off and go to bed. Of course. I want to be titties out in the bed. So he's, like, laying, and he, like, wakes up. And then when he wakes up, he's like a four-poster bed, you know, real dramatic. Love. gasp? Yes, because I was like, we need to get a bell on you.

I need to give you a collar with some noise. Oh my God, okay, I need to see that. I will say like Crimson Peak is on the Pinterest board for my wedding. Is that good or bad? I love that. It's staircases. It's drama. It's fabric.

Like gothic horror. Candelabra. I love that. Like Phantom of the Opera. Yeah, exactly. It's kind of the vibe. I haven't talked about this with my fiancee and he doesn't need to know about it. No, it's okay.

He doesn't need it. It's my. You need his input for. Exactly. As long as he... Already got him. Already got him. He's stuck.

It's so fun. As long as he has the date and time. That's all he needs. I do need to pick a date in time. I'm like, wait, good reminder. Do you know where you want to get married? I think I'm going to do it hometown, Houston. Wow.

I know. That's amazing. Yeah, it's... Do you have a big family? I love them. Yeah, massive. You too? Massive and I just would die for them.

I don't know. I'm so lucky. Do you love your family? I do love my family. I bring them everywhere with me as you do. can tell. It's so special. But my small cavalry that I travel with. That's my dream. I walked in and they're like, where's your crew? And I was like, wait, what? Well, let's go posse for posse. You don't have anybody? I need to bring my, I know, I need to bring my crew. I feel so lonely. Yeah, it's, it's like a

running joke with me everywhere I go now, like for a lot of my friends or like people I work with. They're like, well, Drew needs like a plus four at minimum. If I can, I mean, you shoot for the stars. That's what I always do. Like when they say like, oh, you can bring someone. I'm like, Like K plus five? Can't hurt to ask. Final ask plus two. Give it to me. It's all right.

And do you ever go to something in there like, you can't even bring a plus one? Yes. And it's like, now I'm getting at that point in my career where my team's like, you gotta go. Like even if I go with myself, I'm like, okay. I feel so crazy going anywhere by myself. Me too. Why? I become like the most shy person in the world.

It's like, where's my personality? I'm like, I left it at home. I'm shaking. People I've met a million times. I'm like, what is that? I don't know. I think it's like, maybe it's because our line of work is like always having attention. And maybe something like that feels like I'm going and looking for it.

And that's different. I feel like to me than performing. So maybe that's why. Or I'm just lazy. There's that too. Yeah. I think, yeah, it's like if you go to an event that you had nothing to do with and it's like, why am I here?

Yeah, yeah. And everyone else is kind of like, why are you here too? Right. And I tend to get a little too silly sometimes when I'm alone. No such thing. Like just, you know, sometimes you're like, you know this because you're silly too. I'm goofy. Like when you joke around a little too much at certain events, you're like, okay, I need to reel it in just a little bit.

Oh, no. You just, uh, well, you just, rain it in. You just brought a memory to mind, but I, it's for the best that it doesn't come to me in full. We'll circle back if the memory presents itself. Sometimes I get a little too silly, but I think it's just, I don't know if it's like a defense mechanism sometimes, like, where I'm just like, I need to make conversation. and if someone's not carrying it, because I can carry a conversation like with anybody, really. But if they're not really giving me much,

I'll just start saying things, and that's never a good thing. That's a gift, though. It could be a win or a huge loss, depending on the audience. You're here to play. Life is a game and you're here to play. I say that sometimes, and you know this because you know Caleb. Love.

And we love, we both. Jeannie in a bottle. Yeah, we both know and love Caleb. And a lot of times I get people saying like, oh, I wish I was friends with Caleb. Like, I wish. I'm like, do you? I'm kidding.

Why? No, Caleb is, obviously he's the greatest friend and the sweetest person alive. But he is so funny and, like, witty, even when cameras are not on. To a point where I think it would overwhelm most people. I think a lot of people think they could keep up with him and they surely cannot. Oh, no, no. I don't think so. He's too quick.

He's way too fucking quick. Even cameras on, I go, go, go, go, go-go-g-g-gag-a. I know, I'm done. So I'm going to be on stage and I'm just like, la-la. Anyways, like, whatever. I do want to know back, well, that's actually a good segue because I want to get back to stand up for you. Let's dive in.

So when you first started, how did it go for you? Like, how were you feeling when you first got started? Were you loving? Were you growing a love? I remember I went with one of my besties, Mitya Jihari, who's an amazing comedian writer. She and I went to this open mic and we like made each other do it. It was like, okay, we're going to do this. Yeah.

Accountability partner. Yeah, or a murder suicide pact, whatever. But we both did it. Both both both completely blacked out. Like don't remember what I said. But then once you break the seal, I was kind of like, okay, I'm intrigued. Yeah.

And then, yeah, I mean, I was lucky just to meet a bunch of cool people here who were doing like tiny shows in basements of bars and just getting up as much as possible. Yeah. And then I think things didn't really take off until I started doing, adding music to my act and doing songs. Oh, too. And then I feel like it was like, okay, I'm kind of figuring out who I am. Interesting.

Yeah. That was a huge part of your act. thought it was so funny, dude. One of your favorite jokes that you made a few times that night was when you're crowdwork, I would associate with crowdwork, but you were talking about people with their arms cross your arms. You're closing yourself off to the universe. Thank you.

It's such a good one. I didn't think of something else. Like, those little bits are so nice to have in your back pocket when no one's viving with you. So I got to think of some good. Yeah, there was something else. Those are like those. I love having those like in my back pocket.

They're so funny. It killed me every time. Yeah, I used to have like, and it's great for men too. like if men are being fucking sticklers in the audience. Yeah. They're being like, you're like, you want to laugh.

Yeah. I got you a little. I'm just like, why do you hate me? I'm kidding. He wants me so bad. And they're never, they laugh because they're so confused.

You're like, it's okay. You hate me. That's fine. It's okay. I'm like, you're dying around me. I'm going to blow up your marriage.

Like, that's fun. And then they have no choice but to laugh. Yeah, of course. Because you're like, this woman needs hospital. Needs hospital. Needs hospital.

He needs hospital. British style. that's how I say it Well you You did say you were engaged Right Everyone's talking about Yeah

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Vroom Vroom He has a podcast About Formula 1 Oh Do you care about that at all About the podcast Specifically No about the sport

Yes F1 Oh you actually do Okay cool Cargo fast Cargo so. Yeah, cargo so fast. Cargo Europe, cargo Miami. That's the fun of it.

Right. It's like a pandemic side project he started and now it's like his full-time job. That's so fucking cool. Yeah, and he's an actor. So that's why he was like, I need something else to do. Oh, love. He's great. I only know literally one singular person that loves F1.

Who? And it's my agent, who's also one of my besties, her husband, Stephen. He loves, he loves F1. Okay, great. So like anytime there's anything about F1, I'm like, I don't. I bet Steve would love this and I just send it to him. That's nice. Yeah, it's becoming like massive.

It is. It's becoming super popular now. In the States, no one had really heard of it. Yeah. But now it's major. Yeah, it's called the Red Flagg's podcast if you all are into it. Love. Do you like cargo fast?

I would go to Monaco. I don't know what's going on. I've, I've gleaned a lot of info from some of his conversations on the phone. Or I'll watch his TikToks and be like, he-he-h-ha. Oh, that's great. Do you believe in this? Sometimes he'll hold the phone and be like, if we're trying to get a TikTok to do well, we'll be like, yes, I love this. Do you do that? Like in the algorithm? Like your phone's watching you, so we'll be like, ha ha, this is so good.

You must be doing that. You're emoting towards your phone. Yeah, I'm like, exactly. I don't know. I haven't done that. I don't think. And look how we're doing. I mean, I do. I do be giggling at my phone, but maybe that's why. It's going viral. They know. Okay, that's what I've been trying to do. I don't know. Actually, I don't have TikTok on my phone right now because it was. was making me forget how to read and speak. I was like, you look like what? I love it though. I do too. And it does have a very insane tapeworm that it put in my brain.

That's exactly the issue. Yeah, and it's eating it alive. What's your algorithm like? I have a lot of random stuff. You would think my algorithm is really, really awful. Like I have a lot of misogynistic shit on there because that's the shit I, like, was stitching for so long. Right.

But thankfully my algorithms never really been populated by that stuff. I have a lot of weird shit on mine. I've been putting a lot of people on. Honestly, through this show, I've been talking about people I've been watching. Like, Dr. Parkinson's, I talked about him. What's he doing? He's-in-lawed up on TikTok. He's someone, I think he's based in Texas.

I can't remember. But he's basically someone who is obsessed with anything from the 1920s. So, like, I know who that is. He does the Charleston and everything. His stuff's amazing. Yeah, I love him. He's like, this is an old wood-burning fire from. And he's like, he's like, I'm going to make cornbread on my 1940s range.

And then he just doesn't. And I love like, he has very minimal cuts and edits in his stuff. And I love when he's like doing something. And he's getting fucking annoyed because it's taking a little bit too long. And then he just goes, ugh. And just like tear stuff. And he goes anyways. And he just goes right back to it.

Don't cut it out. Leave it in. Raw. Love it. Where does he live? I think Texas, I think he lives in Texas, I believe. Or somewhere in the south. I know that.

Wow. his stuff's so good. I'm obsessed with him. I literally talked about him on the show like a month ago. And a clip of it, like one of my social girl put it on TikTok and it did really well. And then he saw it and he was like, did somebody call me? That's what he like commented on the video. And I wrote back, I said, my king, huge fan.

Yeah. And he's like, you're not following me though. Oh, called out by Dr. Parkinson's. Okay, well, team Parkinson's. Well, now we're in a diva off because he hasn't followed me either. Oh, God. Well, what's he supposed to do? Me and Dr. Parkinsonin and a diva off.

That's so funny. I was just talking about this. I was like, people would be like, I love your work. And I'm like, you don't follow. But I get it because then I see people and I'm like, oh, wait. But on TikTok, I don't really follow anyone. Yeah, well, me too. It's like, it's very like from my algorithm.

Yeah, you're served them. You don't need to. Yeah. And then after a while, like, if I keep seeing you over and over and over again and I'm like really, really rocking with it, I'll follow you. You'll throw a dog about. Yeah. But I also, I also like have to be careful, though, because sometimes you follow people.

And I'm not saying this about Dr. Parkinson'sine, but sometimes you follow people. but sometimes you follow people because you're like, oh, I love their content. Yeah. And then like two years later they turn out to be a huge prick and you're like,

and then all of a sudden it's like, and you know who's following that person? Oh. So I got to be careful with my followers. That's crazy. Yeah, girl. People watching who you follow. Yes, girl, all the fucking time.

People need, say it with me, hospital. And job. And job. And job. Oh, people really need job. Myself included. I'm like, I would love to be there. I mean, the back they were in an office right now,

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I was like in the basement. And then I did like, you know, waitress, tutor, babysitter, all the classics. Love. What about you? Yeah, I did in college. I did like office. Like I was like assistant to in certain stuff. Yeah.

In offices. And then I was like, I was a server. I was a babysitter too when I would go home sometimes like a low key nanny. And then I worked in an office job right after college. Yeah. And then got another job at the NFL right after that. That's where I was going. Oh, right, right.

And then I got fired from the NFL. Yeah, they fired me, girl. They said, do not come back here. And I said, really? And you go, let me go make an amazing life for myself. Yeah, I was like, damn, that sucks. You said, bye. What's funny is, too, I didn't know I was going to get fired.

So I did bring my laptop in to take notes. And then when they said, we're letting you go. I said, so no notes. Oh. So no notes. You getting ready to type is so funny. What do you want to talk about? Yeah, I literally had my thing out to take notes.

And then they said, we're letting you go. I said, right. And that's the opening scene of your pilot. Yeah. Okay, you're literally like, today's notes. Fired, cut to title. Drew. Yeah, that's me.

You're probably wondering how I got here. That's good. That's good. I'll produce. Yeah. There you go. Co-produce, co-write. Cheers.

Love that for us. I love. I do have some fun facts about. you though actually. Now what's this going to be? And we can get into that if you're ready. Dive in. I feel like you have a very whimsical life so maybe we'll see. Oh that's nice. Okay. Or not. This first one says she once sprained her foot just from walking. Of course. But how do you, how do you know that? And how did that happen? But that's happened a lot. Oh, a lot? Well, yeah. Like, you know when you're walking all of a sudden you're like, ow, and like you don't know why something's

hurting? Doesn't that happen to everyone in the room with the same amount of times a day? I don't know. Okay. I don't know about walking in spring foot. I am a big hypochondriac. Oh, are you? Do you connect with that? Yes, absolutely.

And so. A big, like, Dr. Google. Oh, God, it's awful, especially like the past, I'm actually over right now, but two weeks ago I went to the doctor because there's a bump on my neck. She was like, where? For like, 10 minutes. She was like, I don't feel anything. And then she did admit there was something. She said it was just a lymph node.

And I was like, you have them all over your body. I was like, well, that sounds really bad. But she said, they're not. normal. You can fill your lymph note and she said, You said this place was steps from the water. We just haven't found the steps yet. How much did we save? Enough.

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And you had me fucking come in at 10 a.m. for this. I know. And then I was like, the back of my ear hurts. And she goes, okay, I actually don't know what that could be. And then I was like, and my back hurts. And she was like, okay. And my feelings are hurt because you couldn't fill up up. So what are we going to do about that, doc?

First thing she said was like, and so why aren't you taking your Prozac anymore? And I was like, respect. Okay, so. And you said, that's besides the point. I know. That's nothing to do with why I came here. I said because I want to, can I be disgusting on this? I want to come so easy.

Is that allowed on this? Okay. Yes, of course it is. And she was like, she said, and told me what you think about this. She goes, what if you took it every other day instead of every day? And I was like, is that allowed? I know, stay tuned. You know what?

You should do this for a living to your doctor. You tell your doctor. Be, you should be a doctor for a living. You have some really sound advice. She's a really promising up-and-comer in the doctor industry. This camera is making me realize, God, I don't want to do it, but it's time. You guys, I know what I'm saying. No one wants to do it.

To cut, like, two inches off? Because, you know, when it gets small at the end, you're like, oh, my God, I need extensions. Would you believe I have extensions? They look unbelievable. I thought it was all match. I know. Are they in all the time? Yeah, for the most part, yeah.

How often do you have to, like, have them redone? I get mine redone every three months. So like 90 days is honestly great for me. Like when I, and it's funny because when I initially got extensions, I just did it, I was like, fuck it. I was feeling real like crazy. I was like, fuck it. I'm gonna be in my long hair era, even though my hair's already long. Even, and my hair makeup artist was like, well, fuck, you need more hair in your head.

You do not need more hair in your head. I'm like, well, let's just try it. Let's be crazy. And I think the first time I did it, she put probably 32 packs of hair in my head. It was just way too much hair. Yeah. I was like, let's wheel it back a little bit. And then she, I've like consistently been getting them lately, I would say for the last, like, year and a half.

But I love them. And I really do think she does a really fantastic job on the blend and stuff. But I also think because generally of how my hair looks, I feel like most people would never assume I have them. Never. I was like, you just have that thick, luscious, gorgeous hair. Because my natural hair is very thick and long. So like, I think it's just, it's movie magic. It really is.

Movie magic. But can I ask a stupid question? No, that's not stupid. My hair, so my hair's naturally really curly. Okay, so it's mine. Mine's like wavy curly. Yeah, and so every day it looks completely different. So how do the extensions look the same as your hair?

Well, it's funny. You say that because this last install I adjusted, I did a different brand, but I also did line one. Shout out, line one, in case you want to give me hair for free, line one. Give us hair for free, please. They have textured hair. So, like, that can match your texture. That matches what yours is. Yeah, so my, this is like kind of my natural hair texture a little bit.

Well, that's also very lucky. But, like, I mean, it's... Because mine's curly in a way that's not. what anyone would pick. I disagree. I bet it's beautiful. Never forget, 2016. I had curly bangs.

No one told me the truth. I also got bangs when I was young. And I had even curlier hair when I was young. Before I, like, fried the fuck out of my hair. Of course. I killed my curl pattern. Yeah, like just killed my curl pattern. Before I did that, my hair was a lot curlier.

And I got full bang. Like, not even a curtain bang. I was like 15. Oh. Yeah, girl. And, like, just. My hair is so thick up here. That bang, it looked like a Lego piece.

Like, I could just take it off, like, just pop it off. What were you like in high school? I was an athlete. I was like a student athlete. What was your sport of choice? Well, soccer was my main sport. Wow. Yeah, but then I did, I played sports all year, so I did volleyball, soccer, then track all year.

Oh, so you're extremely fast. I wouldn't say extremely. I will say, though, on my player profile when I was getting recruited, like, for college to play soccer, on my player profile, they wrote deceptively fast. Okay. Because I'm a big, I'm a big ass bitch. That's crazy. They said deceptively fast.

And no, I can't edit them. They're almost like Yelps. Wow, that's unbelievable. Yeah, they wrote deceptively fast. Oh my God. I would say fast for my size. I wouldn't say I'm the fastest. But sometimes, you know, like when I first started dating my man,

because my man was a college football player, like he played sports his whole life too. So, like, you know when in the beginning, you're like doing cute little banter and shit. Like I was like, I used to talk mad shit about being able to beat him in a foot race. Of course. But my man is really competitive. Just generally speaking, he's very competitive.

So he was like, we should race one day. And I was like, you're taking it too serious. I'm trying to be cute and you're doing it too serious. And we haven't raced yet. Wait, down the aisle. I just, down the aisle. That's where we start. We kick it off.

Wait, how did y'all meet? We actually met in high school. We're not high school, so we. It hurts. Okay. But we did meet in high school. Did you ever think, like, no, fuck, no. No, in high school.

No, absolutely not in high school. How did you reconnect then? We reconnected after because I went, we both went away to college. We were friends in high school. Like, we were in the same kind of friend group. Okay. And my sister jokes all the time that we should have known that my sister was a lesbian and that I, like, just my sister was a lesbian, honestly.

And maybe even me, because in high school I really hated men even more so than I do now. Yeah. And like my sister, my sister had crushes every quarter. Like every three months she would have a new boy that she was like, this is the fucking one. Right. And they were always like gross and ugly and that's besides the point. But like she had a crush on literally everyone except my man in high school because she was like, ew. And he was arguably the only good looking man in our high school.

And he got handsome and tall and athletic young. Well. Dangerous combo. Wow. In high school. Shocking, he turned out to be a good person. That is shocking. It is.

How did he? I don't know. Yeah, because I have no idea. My fiance was really, really short growing up. Okay. And it gave him the most amazing personality. Like, he rocks. Yeah, he rocks.

Because everyone was like, we don't like you. So he gets it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He understands. That's good. I'm glad to hear a short king turned out nicely. Oh, God, he's so nice. Oh, God.

That's nice to hear. I know. I know. I don't know how, I think maybe because he's raised by single mom. Oh, I'm very sweet. Respects women. Mm-hmm. loves women.

That's a good answer, yeah. And I thought this was a good sign too when I first started dating him that he calls his mom mama and always says, I love you, like, in front of other people, like doesn't care. Like, he's very affectionate like that with his mom. And I was like, good sign. Yes, very important. Good sign, love that. What about you and your man? How did you meet?

We met through a friend. What was it? Me laughing. I was in an open relationship because I was scared to break up with someone. Okay. Taylor's old as time. anyone else anyone else and my friend from college was like he goes I have one straight friend from theater camp do you want to meet him and I was like he's not my type but whatever and then

I met him and I was like like almost fucked in a closet I was like at this house party I was like okay I got to break up my boyfriend broke up my boyfriend get with Brian guess what Brian dumps me guess what then months past and we did get back together and now we're actually getting now we've been together like seven years oh yeah too we've been together eight so god yeah it's so Isn't it fun to have like this new thing you're excited about together? Yeah, it's really excited. Yeah. It feels different.

I know. It feels different but not. Like it feels like the same but more like serious, I guess. Also too, I don't know if you felt this way, but my man and I joke all the time that like, because obviously we weren't in a rush to get married. Like on like Gen Z TikTok viewers like consumers and men who hate me, they like to be like, wow, together for begging eight years and not married yet. Like, well, that's because in your head marriage is like a concept. said because you're never going to get married, at least not for love. But my thing is I was like, I'm not 21. So like I wasn't like rushing to get married. I really could not have wanted that

less if I tried. So I was very like, if it happens, it happens. Like I knew I wanted to get married. Yeah. But I wanted to like live together. I wanted to live life together. And I've said before, I wanted to like experience things together like good and bad like and see how you live through it as a couple because I was like I want to go through the test of time together before I commit my life to one person because I don't plan on getting married a million times so like that's kind of like not ideal for me a million wedding yeah I don't need I don't need all that like I'm trying to be a one and done kind of girl with marriage so that's why I took my time that's so funny I posted what the one video I posted that went crazy viral was of Brian and I said my boyfriend of five years in

it yeah and of course all the comments are you fucking hag loser he will be never, ever pop the question, dump him. Kill yourself. Yeah. And by the way, while you're at it, slit your throat, love you, X-O-X-O-X-O-X-O, dash me. It's like some 15-year-old boy in Arkansas. I'm like, okay, but I thought it was so weird, too, because I similarly was like, okay, I want to get my career in order, get everything. Right.

Same. How long after dating did you all move in together? I think we started living together around three years. Yeah. Yeah, around three. because we were living in our own, well, in our parents' houses for a while, right after college, hard to get a job. I know. So we were both living in our separate houses for a while.

And then his family was kind enough to let me move into their house when my grandmother had to move into my house. So like, just so there's not too many people. So I moved into their house and we lived there. That was the first time we like lived, lived together. That was around three years, I would say. That's so nice. Yeah. And then we lived there with other people, like essentially roommates, right?

for like two years and then we moved into our own home together. That must have been so nice. It was the best. It was the fucking best. But like all of those different phases of our life, I think, helped develop and grow us as a couple. But I was the same way. I was like, I have a lot of things I want to accomplish. And he even told me like he knew he wanted to marry me like well, like I would say well into dating.

So like three months in like he knew. So I, but I knew too. Bless you. God bless you. Can we cut to her? Cut to her. So you know what we're talking about. My lesbian sister just sneezed.

And that's okay. And they can do that. Yes, beautiful. Thank you, Scotus. Appreciate you. So I get the same shit. I made a video recently because our anniversary is in August. And then I made a video because my fiance got me a bunch of beautiful gifts for our anniversary.

Like he's a really good gift giver. And they were like sentimental gifts and really thoughtful gifts. gifts and like shit like that. That rocks. It doesn't cost a lot and doesn't take a lot other than effort and love. You know, two things those men don't have. And so when I made that video, I said my fiance

and it's our eight year anniversary. Bitch. The amount of men that were like, eight years. No wonder she fucking hates, man. Eight years. Been a fiance for eight years. I was like, I haven't been a fiance for eight years. It's crazy.

And then I'm like, I've been a fiance for one year. How long have you been a fiance? Never? Oh. Yeah. But also. I was like, I didn't want to get married at 21. Like, you would just want to get married at 21?

No. And I don't want kids. So, like, I'm not worried about that either. That's so powerful. Have you always not, won't it? Yeah. God. Honestly, I realized it, though, I think, when I turned, like, 23, 24.

Mm-hmm. Like, it was just, in my head, I won't say I was always, like, I know I don't want kids. What I always knew was, like, it never spoke to me the way it spoke to a lot of other girls. Yeah. So when girls would be like, I can't wait to be a mom. I can't wait to. I'm going to name my daughter's this. Like, I'm not even kidding, sometimes, dude, I would make shit up.

Like, I would be like, same. Symithica. Yeah. Oh, I know a name. And it would be like a name I saw in a movie and I thought was cool. And I'd be like, I think maybe that. And then everyone would be like, oh, that's great. But I was like, I was so performative about it.

Like, because I just thought, I kept thinking when I was younger, I was like, as I get older, like, maybe it'll kick it and like when I get older. Yeah. And then, like, the more motivated I became in, like, my career and stuff, the less and further away from me it felt. So then I was like, I wrote about this in my book, but like I had like a pregnancy scare

and then that's where I really was like, oh yeah, I don't want kids. Oh yeah, no, that's not the path for me. Damn. I want to be a rich aunt. Love that. Yeah, so my sister's gay, my brother's straight,

but my brother's young and my sister's on the fence. So like, here's hoping for my brother. I told my mom rolled dice for him. Yeah, he's got to find, yeah. Yeah, and like I know Caleb really wants kids. so excited about him. I can't wait to be an aunt. I'm going to be the best godmother in the world.

Yeah, you really will be. I'm going to be the best godmother. Yeah, I'm on the fence. Are you? We'll find out together. We'll discover it together. I guess I'm like always like in theory, yes, but I'm like, but life rocks right now. Why would I want it to change?

And that's really like how I was too for a long time. And that's why I think when I talked about in my book, I was like, I think my fiance and I were kind of dancing around that for a minute. Not because we were, I think it was we were afraid that maybe our answers just wouldn't match. But then after that incident that we had, we both were like, see, I can't remember. We're aligned.

That's so nice. I know. So that was really nice, too. And he's always, he was always so supportive about anything I wanted, which is very nice and kind. Why is he perfect? I know. What are both your signs?

Well, you know I have a Virgo Stoleum. Ooh. I do know that about you. If that means anything to you. I smelled it on you when he came in. No, I'm a Leo, but I have a Virgo moon. Ooh. What's your moon?

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Like, I feel like for him, it's very logical. Everything is very, like, black and white kind of thing. How I described it to my therapist is, like, I am very like, but what if? Like, about everything. And he's like, everything's going to be fine because it's always fine. Oh. And I'm like, I start solving. You think you're smarter than me.

And you're fucking not. My whole TikTok is like, what if everything? did work out. It's that plus girls like reorganizing their rooms. Oh my God. You know, I was just talking about this because mommy vloggers are like real, whirlphing right now, I feel like on TikTok. I haven't seen much of that.

You know, like when they say things like, spend the day with me nine, nine to 11.30 a.m. Or whatever. Like they get real specific with the times. 12.15 to 3.25 p.m. right? Like they're real specific with the times, which is fine. I'm loving. I'm seeing nothing but mommy bloggers. Really?

Spend the morning with me. Mom of Four. Realistic morning routine, like shit like that. Like, they're really, like, giving me the answer, like, before I even watch the clip. Totally fine. I'm locked in. I was, like, joking by this with my man, because I really do love watching those little vlogs. Like, I don't know what it is.

And I think it's because, like, sometimes women like that who are fans of me, I like to compare it to, like, they watch me like a monkey in the zoo. Like, they're like, and they're like, do the thing. Like, oh, my God, he's itching his nuts. Like, that's so funny. Like that's how I feel like they watch me like tell jokes and make fun of men. And that's fine. But I think the inverse of that for me is like watching mommy vloggers because like I couldn't relate to a life less.

Yeah. And that's not the life I would like for myself personally. So I feel like fascinated by it. I love to watch it because it's so like, oh, wow, that's what you be doing all day. That's cool. It's crazy. The only thing I think is like, wow, you're really having a full day. Oh, really?

Like your day's way harder than mine. I can promise you that. I'm in bed as much as possible. Especially now that it's cold. and like, oh my God. I have to sit up and get out of this. That's why it is nice at least to be in L.A. It's like it feels like you can do things.

Yeah, not frigid outside. I'm just like stirring my soup, like canceling every plan I've made. I know. I was like, and I was telling him, a lot of the mommy vloggers I'm seeing are almost like mirroring each other at this point. I think they're like kind of copying the same like formula,

which is fine. There are a bunch of like at this top. Which is totally fine. If that's what works for you, you know what I mean. But I was telling him they do a lot of, of the same thing. So they'll say like,

they'll talk like this and they'll be like, so let's go. Dase knows this, days. When they do, when mommy vloggers do this, they go, let's go. When they hit me with one of these, you know you're home. You're watching something.

You're locked in. I'm watching, listen, I'm locked in, girl. You're going to crack that Alani and start mopping. I know it. I know and I feel that I sense it about you. And I literally, they do, let's go. And then they always end like this. Oh my God, okay.

I need to get, I need to get, I need to see one of these. Girl, I'm obsessed with them. They're like, and bye. Every now and then. Every now and then. Every single one, I love it. I'm eating it up.

I'm eating it up. Every now and then I'll get like, Mama 4 in Tribeca. And it's just like $7 million homes. And I'm like, and it's spotless. I'm like, okay, so I do feel bad. Yeah. And they're doing this and wife encounters.

And I'm in. I'm locked the fuck in. I love it. Are you a morning person? I'd say, yeah, lately I have it in my old age. I just turned 30. In my old age, yes. Welcome.

Welcome. Thank you. I'm happy to be here. 29 was awful, like the age. Not necessarily the year. I had a great year, but like the age itself. So close. I felt like, I felt like a guy who like goes back to watch high school games like too soon after he graduated.

That's how I felt being 29. I was like, oh man. It's too soon. Like I'm like, I'm still in my 20s. I'm 29. I'd rather, I like was telling my sister. I'd rather skip from 28 to 30. Well, that's, I don't need that final year.

Yeah, I guess I sort of did because I turned 30. during the pandemic. So I was going to like, oops, here I am. There goes my life. That's nice, though. No, but life, you couldn't pay me to go backwards one day. No way. Especially in my 20s.

Let's move forward. I was like, I was joking about that with someone too, where I was saying like, your 20s are like, you're supposed to be twisting in the wind in your 20s. Like, you're supposed to be so confused and I don't know what I'm doing and everybody's moving on. You're gathering stories. You're gathering stories.

Yeah, you're like building lore, character lore, all throughout 20s. And then in your 30s, and I remember this was like the last piece of like advice I got from the NFL before they fired me during my note-taking session. I can't pick the picture. You're little glasses.

Pink pan with a feather. I'm Elle Woods. First day of law school, no laptop. Yeah, for real. This woman had, she had just turned 40 and I was, I think I was like 24. And then when she was talking to me, she was like, if I could pick any decade to go back to,

I'd pick my 30s. And she's like, because in your 20s, like, no one does. knows anything and no one has any money. She's like in your 30s, all your friends are like established. Like they know at least somewhat what they're doing like on some track. And everyone has-meeting about everyone I know. I'm like, yeah.

And they're like centralized in some regard. And then you have like a more solid group of friends. Yeah. And you guys all have money better now that you did in your 20s. So you can go to dinner. So you can go to lunch and shit like that. Oh, God. And I love going to dinner. Oh, me too.

I get a $25 martini. And you're going, la, la, la. Do you have like a core group of friends that you're like, this is my crew, like, we're always together? Yes, for sure. That's really nice. Right now, yeah. Yeah. Do you?

I feel like I kind of, I have like my like high school and college friends that I'm still super tired with. Same. But then I'm like, I'm close with like individual people from like different like chapters of my life. I love. I think that's wonderful. Yeah. Yeah. My core group right now is like mostly I would say, I say my team, but they're like everyone's like my friends.

Like we're like best friends and we all talk every single day and do everything together. It's so fun. family too so like they're also included i include i count my family as friends of sorry i don't know what that says about me me too i you know i briefly lived in the same building as both my brothers oh i love that i was loving that's amazing i know they both left me is it just the three of you or do you have more siblings oh me too i'm in three too oh right because y'all too and a younger brother and where is he in l.a. too yeah yeah so my it's funny you say that because my family like the house i live in now like my sister has her own house

two minutes one way. My mom and dad and my brother live two minutes the other way. And it's funny because recently I moved my grandfather and my uncle, who's like our godfather, into the house right next door to my parents. So my brother lives there now and it's like he's living on his own because he's in the house next door. And my parents live right next door and then we live two minutes either direction. We live like in a little triangle. You're really living in the dream. But I am going to move to eventually. And when I literally was like breaking it to my sister, I was like, would you move with me? Like we're going to Spain.

Yeah. It's not even that fucking far. But I was like telling my man, I was like, I have to bring my family. Like I need to bring them with me. So I'm going to start the pilgrimage and then we'll go from there. That'll be nice. Because you feel like there's a lot of stuff you need to be in person for. Yeah, it's more so I just like the commute is getting to be a lot.

I'm used to it, but it's just like it would just be easier and I'm going to buy a home soon. So I'm like, if I'm going to buy one, I think I'm going to buy one over there. I know. Oh my God. That rocks. another reason why I waited to get married. Exactly. But in the meantime, I've said that, too, like, in the span of eight years,

other than growing a very foundational love and affection for each other, we've also gone through a lot together, but we've also, like, I've retired my parents, I retired my, like, my uncle. I, like, you know what I mean? Like, we've started a business. Like, I'm going to hopefully start another business soon. Like, there's a lot of things I got done. So cool.

So, and also, like. You wrote a book? I mean, that's insane. Period. How long did you work on the book? I would say probably like year and a half

in total Were you very much like every day For the most part Yeah because I was doing this At the same time Yeah We were kind of piecemealing it

So like I had to write in chunks So like my Literary agent and like my team That worked with me While I was writing They would like They wrote like an outline for me They're like okay

Give me like 5,000 words on this Oh that's nice And like 4,000 words on this And then I'd send that in In pieces That's great Almost killed me but I did get it done.

Almost killed me. It's so impressive. And now I'm writing another book, which is very exciting. Wow. And how does it feel like having done it before? Do you think, okay, now I got this? Or do you feel like, oh, fuck, what was that that I did? Yeah, I honestly feel more excited this time, but it's because it's different.

I'm doing fiction. Oh, that's so exciting. Yeah. And it's going to be a movie. Yeah, and I'm planning on that too. And it's going to be a movie. And that's what I've, and I've been calling it my Lynn Manuel Miranda plan. Perfect.

Because I'm going to cast myself. Of course. Of course. He's a genius. He said, you can have it. I'm just going to be a principal role. He is a genius. I'll never forget when I saw in the Heights in high school on Broadway.

I was like, it's the best. So good. I did love it. And I loved the movie too. Me too. Period. Love that. Oh, wait, let's get back to some fun facts about you.

Okay, okay. Okay, and this next one says you were in the Kappa Alpha Theta sorority in college. You know, this is interesting. I joined that sorority. and then I didn't go to anything. And so I kind of stopped going. And then I stopped paying my dues. And I actually still, I graduated over 10 years ago,

still get emails being like, where are your dues? I'm like, but I didn't go to it. Damn, they're chasing you down. Yeah, but I didn't go to anything and I didn't do anything. It was like, when I first got there, I was like, this will be a fun way to meet people. And it was. But then I was like, I want to do other stuff.

But yes, I'm a proud theta. That's what they do. That's what they do. They do that because it's like a theta. I was a theta. So you get it. That's a really awful, awful hand signal, I feel like for them to have. No, everyone liked when I did that.

You're the only one who felt weird. They were all cheering. Everyone's cheering. They were like, no, she can leave, but just we need the dues. The lineup of Aries men is like, y-h! Sorority life, not for you? It wasn't a match. It honestly makes a lot of sense for you to just be like, never mind.

Yeah, it also wasn't a big deal. It wasn't like a intense, like. Like some schools that's very intense. You know, it was kind of like, oh, whatever, no one cares. Yeah. But love to my sisters. Yeah. I do love my sisters, though.

Ultimately, would die for them. Of course. I never, I didn't have really any Greek life at the college I went to. There was like, I think two. There was like one frat, one singular sorority. And then the frat got closed down for like issues. Of course. And then the sorority, I don't even know where they were or what they

did after that. Like I had no... Were you playing sports in college? No, that was like when I stopped playing. I got offers to play in college, but I also, which I was like literally thinking like, damn, I got to go take those because that's better for college. Like money, obviously, free money. But then I got an academic scholarship. And so I like basically was like, do you guys care if I don't play anymore, like to my parents? Because they had like spent so much time and money on me playing travel ball and everything. It's so intense. Yeah. So it felt like kind of like, like, fucked up to be like, bye,

like, but I did ask, and my parents were like, I don't care. My mom was like, yeah, that's fine. And I,

like, didn't really have that much of a social life. Like, I did have one in high school, but it wasn't as, like, popping as I wanted it to be.

Sure. Because I was always fucking playing sports. And then also in school, because I love school. Also, because I'm a Virgo. I really did love school.

So I enjoyed doing school work and all of that. So I got an academic scholarship, which allowed me to not play sports anymore. So I got to be like a normal student when I went to college. That must have been so nice. It was. It was really fun. I actually got kind of lucky too when I went because my freshman year dorm roommate was is still my friend to this day. Yeah, if you can believe it. She's still my friend to

that never happens. Yeah, ever. I had the crazy. And it's, you had the craziest freshman I can't even talk about it. I hope she's okay. Okay. Continue. Your best is your girl. Yeah, I did. She's two years older than me. Um, but she like took time off. and then went to school at the same time I did. And I remember thinking when I looked her up on Facebook because I got her name and like an email. Oh my God, yes. You're like, oh, I need to look up my roommate.

And I looked her up and it said that she was married and that she was working at Chili's. And she had like a dog and like a house. And I was like, this can't be the right girl. And then when I met her in person, it was her. And she was married. She's not anymore. But like she was at the time she got married young.

Okay. And when I met her, she's the craziest. person I've ever fucking met. I love her to death, though. She's just the craziest person I've ever met. And I always say, like, if I, like, in college, I never would have had any fun without her, like, the kinds of experiences she would put me in.

Because I'm so I'm so Virgo down that I'm like, you're a good girl. I have, yes, I'm a rule follower in a lot of ways, and I'm also very planned and, like, I need to make sure everyone's okay and everyone's safe. So, like, I never would have done anything crazy cool without her, and she would have died without me. So I think it was like a real yin and yang situation.

I think we balanced each other really well. But we're still friends to this day. We still get dinner. Every time I go back to Hawaii, like I go see her and we get dinner and hang out with my other girlfriend too. Who I also met my freshman year and she's still one of my really good friends to this day. But at what stage were you like, I'm a star though? Like in terms of like what I wanted to do? Yeah.

Like you're playing sports. When were you like, but get me on camera? I was, I think when I was in college, that's when I was like, I want to be on camera. I think sports is just my way. I don't know why I didn't think acting was. like an option for me. I always did want to do acting or like performance of some kind, but I was like, well, I don't know how to do that. And I didn't do theater a ton. So I did take theater classes in college, though, that I loved. So loved, had the most fun ever in them.

But I figured, like, if I did journalism communications, I could still be on camera and do stuff. Yeah. And I would literally think to myself, I'm like, I'm just going to charm everyone with my wit. And then maybe they'll let me do like lifestyle stuff. I don't know. Like, that's what I would tell myself. And now look at you. And now look. Get fired. Then do it yourself. Charmed ass. Yeah, then put your hair in a bun and handle it. That's what I did. Coffee fee.

What about you? Did you always know you were going to be a performer? Of course. I feel like you knew, especially as a Leo. Now that I know you're a Leo that makes a ton of songs. For better for worse. But you know, yeah, it's one of these things like, I don't know how, but it's like, you're going to get to the place, but you're like, that's the place I'll be at.

Yeah, that's like, I did the same thing. Yeah. But now I'm like, wait, I want to be at a different place. Yeah. It's always, it's moving a little. But it's more laterally moving now. that I do do this for learning. I'm like, okay, I think I also want to do this.

Yeah, that's cool. And I don't want to do that, like, that kind of thing. Yeah. That's how I've been kind of sampling right now. What about you? Yeah, I feel similar. I'll kind of say yes to everything and then only a few things and I'm like, oh, I'm never doing that again.

Yes. Usually I'm like, oh, that was fun. I'll do that again. Yeah. You never know what's going to come your way. I feel like, are you acting? Yeah. Yeah, I was going to say you need to be acting.

Yeah, I feel like you're made for it. Honestly. I love doing that and I love being on stage, but I'm trying to think of it. Yeah. Yeah, I love doing a little bit. Kayak gets my flight, hotel, and rental car right. So I can tune out travel advice that's just plain wrong. Bro, Skycoin, way better than points.

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Well, I just make something you're good at that I'm not good at. I don't like doing hosting on like the carpet type thing. I was like, this is not for me. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think you would be fun. I don't know.

I think you know what? It also depends on like maybe it was the event because it's like when people come up to you and they're really nice about it. It is fun. But then some people walk up to you and they're just like... And they're awful. Yeah. They're just dead behind the eyes. Yeah, I think it's a really hard gig.

That is true. I'm always, like, in awe of people who, like yourself, who do it very well. Thank you. Yeah, it's, I feel like when I talk about hosting, because sometimes, oh, girl, after, I had been hosting for a minute, obviously this, but also, like, carpet stuff. But once I talked to Timothy Shalameh, girl, you would have thought, I'm Ryan C. Croce, all of a sudden, everybody was like, so tell me about hosting. Yeah. He seems like a great interview. He was fun.

He was fun. he was he was fun i can tell he has a level of brain rot that he cannot show publicly while he's being a serious actor i can tell he has that level of brain rot yeah um but he's fun like he was he was a good time and uh i feel like when i host i like to talk to them like they're fucking normal like i've talked to trxy mottel about this too because she she said the very first time she ever met lisa vanderpum because they're good friends like which is strange to think about but they are love that and the first time she ever met her she's like she had like this like this like this black and white like sequined like tuxedo on or something and she was like what are you going to do

magic tricks after this and she said she laughed and she's like I think people are just like afraid of her so they're too afraid to like joke with her and like razz with her and I think that's what they love like they love when you like razz them a little bit right right kind of meet them as humans I like popping that little bubble totally that's fun that's powerful when I met Chris Evans and I talked to him for a bit on a carpet like I could tell I can always suss a vibe too like if They're like fucking over it. Like they're just so tired of talking. Right, right.

They're just so tired of answering the same questions. Like I kind of try to keep it short and then just ask them fun stuff and then send them on their way. So he gave me this like really long, eloquent answer to a question I asked. And it was a great answer. Like great, great promo, great everything. It was perfect. And then after he finished, I was like, he's like, yeah.

And then I go, man, you fucking nailed that. And then he started laughing. He goes, I did, didn't I? And then we like laughed and high fived. Heaven. And so I think shit like that is fun. Yeah, yeah. Catch them being human for a sec?

Totally. I think that's fun. That's why I think you would do really good at it. Maybe I'll try again. But you are a big silly goose, so I get it. I love to laugh. Yeah. I do what you mean though when it's like, it's not hidden.

I have had a few where I've had to be like, all right, girl, have a good night. All right, have a great night. Queen, you are everything. You're the best. Oh, you look fantastic. Love you. I have had a few where I've had to like kind of send them on their way. And sometimes when I do carpets, like, if I do them specifically for shows or whatever,

it's typically people that are older that sometimes, like, brands will tell me, like, they don't really love silliness. They don't really love this. Like, they're very, like, just kind of keep it and short. And so I always tell them, like, if they're not feeling it, I promise I'll send them on their way. Like, I'll ask them one. And then I'll be like, all right, Queen will have the greatest night ever. And that kind of gets them.

Honestly, every time when you do that, they giggle and they're like, okay, perfect. And they walk away. It's a contagious giggle. Yeah, you just got to, like, laugh and talk really loud and it kind of just like jars them. And you're like, have a good night. All right. It's working on me. Works like a charm.

It's working on me, girl. I will say, though, in hosting, if you ever do get into hosting for real, I will say the breath can be sometimes crazy. Oh, my God. Thinktown USA sometimes. And sometimes they're real close to me. You know what advice I read recently? I don't know where I saw this? They go, if someone ever offers you gum or a mint, always say yes.

I'm like, damn. Just in case. My sister does offer gum like that. And sometimes people are like, oh, does my breath smell? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she always goes, no, no, I'm just helping myself. And sometimes it does smell. Yeah, it's a great way to be.

She's fooling a fast one on them. Never saw it coming. She's quick. I swear to God. I literally did like a what's in my bag. thing with in style. And like one of the things I have is like those listerine pocket things that you can like spray in your mouth.

And I was like, I carry these like because I'm talking all the fucking time and meeting people, obviously I always have something like this on hand, especially on carpets. And I was like, and you would be surprised like sometimes breath is stink town USA on there. And sometimes I want to spray it in their mouth while they're talking like a cat. Like when you're like, get out of get off the counters. You're not supposed to be on the kitchen counters. Oh my God. That's what I want to do sometimes.

You must. Sometimes it's bad. and they're too famous that no one will ever tell them. Ooh. Don't want that to happen. That's a scary place to be. Thank God I'm not in that situation. In college, you were also in a co-ed

a cappella group called Cherokane. Oh, yes, I was. Oh, yes, I was. I loved it. You a big aquapel girl? I was... It was so fun. It was like a co-ed, like frat.

It was so fun. I think that's probably why I didn't get into my sorority because I was like, I like, I like this. Yeah, I have my... I have an Acapella group that needs my attending. Yeah, I did not love the singing as much, but the hanging out was really fun. And we got to, like, go on trips and, like, it was the best. Didn't love the singing and the singing group?

No. Yeah. Well, I liked being the soloist. I didn't like be, boop, beep, boop. Like, that sucks. But it was so fun. It was like pitch perfect the movie. That was your college experience?

We were not good, but we had a lot of fun. Did you guys go sing in other people's, like, events or anything? Not really. One time we were the entertainment on a cruise ship. Isn't that insane? A week on a ship? Where'd you go? Where did we go? We left from Florida. I think we went to like Jamaica. Interesting. Where else do we go? It's such a blur. It's one of those memories it's like, did that happen? It's like a fever dream. It really was. It was so weird. It was so weird. And like all this, it was like before Instagram too. Doing an a acapella group on a cruise line is crazy. No one wanted it. Imagine singing in the middle of a cruise ship and no one. one's listening.

Beep, bleep, boop, boop, boop. And also, I think we were, like, too young to drink because I was, like, 18 or something. Okay. We put Everclear in one of those flat camping water bottles. And then would bring it to, like, the cruise dinner and, like, oh, God. Everclear. Horrible. When I was in college, we would go on Tuesdays to the movies, because it was, like, $5

movie Tuesdays. Love. And because they didn't serve alcohol in movie theaters at the time. And, like, my friends and I would buy a box. wine take out the bag, put it in a backpack, and then we would like just open the spigot in the theater, like, and you could hear it hitting the cups, like, just went pissing in the theater. Yeah, and filling up.

And we would just pass them down the row. Genius. And we would do that. Women in STEM. Truly. Women and seven. Ahead of your time. Yeah, women in engineering fields.

Women in male fields, you know. Oh, gosh, it is so nice having a wine at the movies. It is so nice. The first time we ever did that was to go see 50 Shades of Grey. Wow, I actually have seen that. And it was me and my three, it was me and my three girlfriends, and then there was, I think, four couples, and that was it. It was just us and four couples in the theater.

And then we were absolutely trashed off red wine watching that movie. That movie is crazy. What a core memory for me, honestly. That's important. In the inside out in my brain, that's a gold ball right there, just rolling down the little line up. Oh, I forgot about that facet of the film. I love that

detail. That little motif. Yeah, I love getting wine drunk at the movies. It was just nice to kick back. It does. Life's hard. Girls need to put their hair up every now and then.

I love that you were in a co-ed Alcapulah group for you. That makes a lot of sense, obviously. It was fun. Here's what you're not going to believe. It was actually cool. It was cool to be in it. You guys were pretty cool? Is that a cool?

According to you and the Acapella group were a lot of other people. Yes. Well, I can only speak for myself, but I believe it was cool. I believe everybody had a good time and thought we were cool. Oh, God. Okay, we have another one that you were a camp counselor at Camp Ozark and Arkansas in the summer of 2009. Oh, God. Well, I wasn't ever a full counselor.

I was like a counselor in training. Really, really. Wow, you never made it to counselor? Thank God. I mean, it's such a weird place. It's just really, really, I'm half Jewish, half Catholic. Okay. being from Texas, like everyone goes to Christian camp.

It was like the thing. And so I went to this insane evangelical camp that like completely brainwashed me. Oh my God. Thank God I got out. I've been a church camp. So you get it. It's a lot. It's insane.

Yeah. And I remember when my sister and I went the first time, my sister kind of bought in. And I was like, I had one foot out the door. But I was like, damn, okay, she's really buying in. Yeah. And then I remember they asked if like we wanted to say the sinner's prayer to like commit your life to Jesus. or whatever. And so we sat in a circle and did it. And my sister and I were like holding hands. And I remember during the prayer, I literally was going like this. Because I was looking at her to see if she was like being for real.

And she was. And then I said, damn, she'd be for real. Okay. So like, you know, yeah, don't ever say I wasn't there for my girls. So she's been saved and you have it. Yeah. Pretty much she's going and I'm not, I'm getting left behind. It's so scary though. It is. Yeah. They're so, I'm so easily brainwashed as well. I will say, though, the energy is electric when you're there and no electronics. You're getting swept up in it, you know what I mean? A hundred percent. I'm talking all that shit about not joining a cult, but put me in the woods with no phone, who knows?

Oh, the first half of every cult doc, I'm like, I'm in. What was I just watching? You said, I'm in, honestly. Yeah. I need no further convincing on my end. It took a long time. Like even in the beginning of next time, I was like, okay, I'm listening, I'm listening. I'm listening.

and Keith. Boom's that spike. Bump set spike. Peppering with Keith. I do love to pepper. Who doesn't? I love to pepper. Get those bruises on your arm.

He's like, yes. Volleyball is a huge part of church camp. They love volleyball there. Yeah, but thank God I got out. Oh, God. No, same. I mean, it's crazy. I felt like, I felt, honestly,

I felt performative at things like when I was at church camp. I felt performative at things like worship. Yeah. Because everybody's putting their hands up and, like, crying. And I was like, I mean, I guess I could do it, but like it's just my heart's not in it. And that would be fucked up. You know what I mean? I feel like, if Jesus is real, they'll see that I'm performing.

I love God. I don't know if he was there. I'm like, what is this? But you're a real one. I was fake. I was like, I was like doing it. Honestly, I think that makes more sense than the way I was doing it, which was like almost half, hearted.

Like I was going, like, oh, but you were right. I was trying to participate. There was a woman there who at these services would play air guitar to the worship music. And complete serious. She's completely serious. Like in a god-fearing way or just like her fun. In like a praise him way. Okay.

This is for you. Like, this is my gift. This one's for you. I bet she's still out there doing it. It is crazy. And my parents are like, don't laugh at her. one time my sister and I were at when we were at the church camp during a worship service like you know sometimes people will like walk up to each other and they'll be like can I pray for you or whatever oh this one guy I remember like me my sister was sitting in the back and this guy came up and he was like do you mind if I pray for you to me and I was like I guess not right and then he was he was doing and I'm saying this very literally like the most bullshit ass prayer but it's because and I knew this because I could tell like I think he had a crush on me and just wanted to hold my hand. And so like he did that. And then he was like halfway through this bullshit ass prayer.

He goes, oh yeah, you too to my sister. Like takes her hand on this. I was like, don't include me in your bullshit ass prayer. And then she's doing that. He's doing that. And you know, you know, after a while it starts to get redundant. If they have nowhere they're really going, they'll just start repeating the same things. Like, and Father God over and over and over again. So then he finally finishes the prayer. And then he gets, he's like, God bless you both. And he like walks away. And my sister was like, his breath was so bad when he left. And I was like, you're not buying into this shit. You need one of those down the throne immediately.

That world freaks me out. Yeah, it is. It is, yeah. I have a lot of anger towards them. Yeah, I get it. I won't get into it today. I get it, though. Yeah.

Okay, last one. It says, do you remember how old you were in this? Do you remember how old you are? in this in this photo oh that's a really cute photo it is a really cute photo oh because you know I was maybe I don't have to happen anyone else here I was extremely cute and then God it must have been about maybe about fifth grade something shifted and then it was hideosity abomination until about like 1819 so that's the cute era I don't know I don't I never know old kids are. What is that? Two, three, six. It's you. I never know how old kids are.

But you know what's the kid? You're like, what's your deal? Like, where are you from? You smoke? I'll go, what do you care about? I will say, your pupils are the size of your irises in this picture. Like, you, look, your pupils are enormous. I've seen something, yeah. In this picture. I don't know, it looks old. It looks like you're probably like me not knowing either. Me, me making fun of you and me not knowing either. I I would say maybe like six. No. I think that's younger. You think younger? Me not knowing.

Is there a doctor here? Me not knowing. We'll pass it around. Let's see. Carrie wants to see. Four or five? Really? Oh, I'm sorry.

Hop, skipping a jump from six. I was wrong. I said two. No, I think Carrie's right. I think four or five. Eight months, yeah. We're on, I think, 14 months. I know.

My friends, some of my friends are starting to have kids now. I don't know what to say to them. I'll be like, what's your kid into? I'm like, Louie? I'm like, that's awesome. I'm so happy for them. I don't know.

I want to want it. I want to want it. You do? Maybe. In theory? Yeah, I want a million billion. I think in a... Don't you think?

Yeah. I think then you'll know for sure. Once I get a million billion in the bank. Then you'll know for sure. Then I'll say... Have to. Just one. At that point.

Girl. Obviously, girl. And by that point, you'll... be able to choose. Totally. Yeah. I know. Sometimes I see, like, I don't know.

I see people with kids and I'm like, God, I'm so happy for you. Could never be me, but I'm so happy for you. And that's why I said, like, I like hanging out with kids in, like, a very aunt-like sense, like, in a way that's like, I'm going to send you home after this. Yeah, like 20 minutes of, oh, my God. And then I'm like, yawn. Who has the gossip? Like, let's hang.

Don't you think? Yeah. Wait, so what are you doing the rest of the day? What are you doing tonight? You have another pod. I do have another pod. Tonight, nothing, I think, just dinner. What day is it?

It's Tuesday. What about you? What are you doing today? I'm hosting this show tonight. I'll send all the info if you want to come. Or actually, but you're leaving tomorrow. Yeah, I leave Wednesday. Sad.

Tomorrow would be more fun. Well, thanks for telling me the day I leave. Didn't tell me before I booked my tickets. Wow. Yeah, wow. Noted, noted. Me noting, getting fired. That's the cutest image.

I love it. It was so bad. I was so miserable at that job, girl. Of course. They wanted me dead at that job. But that's because the universe had something bigger in store for you. I'm shot. I was just telling my sister, like, in my first, like, three months working there,

I worked in, like, this big, what I was, like feeling like, like was almost a movie like newsroom. Like everyone was sitting in like, uh, booths, like restaurant booths and like shit and their desks were all askew and everyone was casual Friday every day. And they were like, we need ideas. We need ideas. Like that was the kind of environment I was in. So I was working there for like three months.

I was trying my absolute hardest to make friends. And it's not hard for me to make friends. Yeah. But at that place, it was almost impossible. Like nobody wanted to be my fucking friend. I felt like I had a stink about me. Like I was, I felt like I was giving pig pen in some regard. because I felt like nobody wanted to be my friend

and it was very strange. So I was like trying like to like, oh so like, you know, like where are you from? Like I was just trying to make conversation and nobody was picking up what I was putting down. Like they would just give me really deadpan answers and then it wasn't lending towards connection or conversation. What was their problem? I don't know. I think it's just the environment is extremely competitive there in a way that I was in viking with. And clearly I was trying to key and have a good time and like nobody wanted to join me on that journey.

And so I had been working there for three months. and I was like trying really hard to nobody wanted to eat lunch with me and I'm being so serious like I was trying really hard to eat lunch with people nobody wanted to eat lunch with me and so I was like whatever like I was just like okay maybe this is just like a not have fun in the workplace kind of vibe and there was like mostly men in this room that I was working in obviously because I was working at the NFL and so one day I was working and the guy who I had talked to a million times it was always very curt and short with me didn't give a fuck he walks in and he goes guys we got a new hire and it was another woman. There was maybe like three or four women total in there at this point. And then everyone's cheering and he goes, tell people about yourself. And then she like tells people like, oh, I just graduated from Pepper 9.

Like I'm doing this, blah, blah, blah. And he goes, don't forget, guys, we're going to have team lunch like we do with all new hires. No. Mind you, I've been a new hire. I've been new hired for three months. And then I literally was in there like, we're going to go get lunch.

She's like, guys. And they gave her like a bag with like shit in it. What? I didn't get it. any of that shit. And then I was sitting there and I was like, and then I remember I reached, I like leaned over and like tap someone that was next to me.

And I was like, where are you guys getting lunch? And then the guy goes, I don't know. And then it turns around. Fuck those people. Like, so no connection. No connection in this vibe. That's hell.

It was so awful. And it was mostly. Yeah, it was so bad. So am I shocked that they fired me? No. Looking back, no. Ew. Not even a little.

Good reddance. Good reddance. you know let's go that's why I said let's go after I got fired follow me to my new life spend the morning with me after I got fired and then after I get fired I go well thank you so much for coming on the show I fucking love what about this thank you you're the best what about this your heaven honor I'm fucking obsessed with you got to come back we'll have a proper dinner hang yeah so I would love I would absolutely thank you for having me of course this rocked and rolled and save your strength

I know you have another one. Thank you, Kat. I appreciate that. Thank you. But before we go, before we go really quick, where can everybody find you? Oh, please find me. I swear to God.

At Kat underscore Cohen on Instagram, TikTok. Watch my special on Netflix. It's called The Twist. She's gorgeous. And listen to my podcast, seek treatment. Honestly, Kat is so fucking funny. I know we've been so silly this whole time, but your stand-up is unbelievable.

Thank you so much. I fucking love you. I think you're so funny. I'm so happy we met thanks to Betches. Shout out. Shout out. From two real betches. Thanks for listening.

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