The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - FOREPLAYING INTO VULNERABILITY Ft. Hunter Prosper

Episode Date: March 13, 2024

This week Hunter Prosper, your favorite source of hope and humanity on TikTok, joins Drew on the show to unpack where horrible men online love to hate on people's healing journeys. They talk about Hunter's journey from ICU nurse to sharing his stories from strangers series online, dealing with human vs. dog fluids, men who hate therapy, and so much more! Drew: https://linktr.ee/drewafualo Hunter: IG/TikTok For sponsorships/partnerships, email [e-mail]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Okay. And they pulled it out. And if anyone knows anything about the jugular, that's a lot of blood that comes out. And I remember it just spraying everywhere. But I don't get phased at all. Like it was hitting me. It was hitting the ceiling. My cat pukes.

My grandmother's cat pukes. I'm like, I can't do this. You're getting sprayed with blood and you're like, it's fine. Actually, no worries. Everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show, starring me, your favorite, everybody knows me, who cares about me? On to the guests. Today we have the wonderful, the amazing, the iconic, the legendary Hunter Prosper.

Welcome to the show. Drew, I care about you. I care about you deeply. Oh, God, thanks, man. I appreciate that so much. Thank you for coming on the show. Thank you for happy. I'm happy to have you.

This is such an honor. We ran into each other probably 15 times. I know. We go so far back. We do. And we're both 15 years old. Yeah, now what? Exactly.

Figure that out. We're so young. I know we run into each other everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere. For the past like three years. You really have for the past three years. We're just like, hey.

It'll be random. It's a different state every time. It is always a different. You know what? That's so funny because when I was in Arizona, there was another girl. Who was I talking to? Oh, I think it was someone that worked at TikTok. But I was telling her every time I see you were in another state.

Because I saw her in California. I saw her in New York. And then I saw her, I think, in Tennessee once. So she was like, that is true. That's you and me. And every time you're wearing a great outfit and I'm just wearing a dumb t-shirt. And you look great. And your hair carries.

That's a good thing. Thank you. Well, so I walked here. So if it's like frizzy or anything, I'm sorry. It's all right. It looks wonderful, it's beautiful, luscious, long.

You got a great hairline, bro. Thank you. You do. Yeah. It's all genetic. I got to give all the credit to my mom. Period. You know,

I actually know that when men balled, it's because of their mom's side of the family, genetically speaking. So bad news for a lot of men who hate me. Uh-oh. Get mad of your mom for that. That's her fault. I also noticed you have a widow's peek.

Just like you. Oh, Look at us, twins. Widows Peak twins. It's hard. You know what's funny about, I never really noticed that I had one until I started doing this for a living.

And then everyone was like telling me I have a heart hairline. And I was like, that sounds mean. So I like looked it up and I was like, oh, widows pink, okay. Sorry, my bad. It sounds like they're saying your hairlines receding.

It's like it's not. It just starts here and also start to. Yeah, because hearts go like this. Yeah, I'm like, careful. I can be mean too, careful. Well, to you, Hunter. Everybody knows you on your content, like for your platform, where you really get to know people. So I would love for you, I know your story, but I would love for you to tell

people how you've gone into that in the first place. Yeah, of course. Well, it started with working as a nurse. I was working on a floor, and when you work on the floor as a nurse, you sort of see patients, and then you see them off. Yeah. That's not all the situations, but that's most situations. Yeah. Then I transitioned to the ICU, and it was the exact opposite. I always prided myself in talking to patients. Then when I went to the ICU, I didn't want to talk to anyone because when I built a connection, the scenario was they most likely were going to die. I do CPR the next hour.

I'd paralyzed and sedate them. I was just getting worn out, and I didn't want to hear anyone talk. It was sad because that's who I identified as. I identified as someone who loves to listen. And so I lost that. And then I had a patient pass away who was around my age. And before she passed away, I had built a connection. with her like I said I wasn't going to but I asked her a question it's a question that I

asked a lot of strangers all the questions that you see me ask strangers are the same ones that I ask my patients oh that's crazy this cool yeah and so I asked her this question and she knew she was going to die and yet she still started crying tears of joy because of how much she loved that I asked her that question oh that's so sweet so I was really sad that she passed away yeah and so I made like a little video diary out of it where I'd sit in front of the camera and I'd talk about my feelings. And I'd talk about this person's life with respect to her privacy, and I didn't say her name or anything.

But I talk about this person's life. So then it helped me cope with her loss because then it felt like she didn't pass in vain. Yeah. Was that something you were just doing for yourself or was it? So at first it was just for myself. Yeah, just to kind of like heal a little bit. Yeah. Because as a guy, like I was like, don't go to therapy.

You know what I mean? What's the point of that? Yeah. Yeah, that was the only right answer. No, that's why I asked. That's like so emotionally intelligent in advance to be like, I need to talk through this. That's why I was curious. Yeah. I needed an outlet for sure.

Because it was bleeding into my daily life. I'd come home and I didn't want to talk to patients, but then I'd come home and I didn't want to talk to my family. I don't want to talk to my friends. I didn't want to talk to anyone. Yeah, yeah. And when I didn't want to talk to my mom, I knew it was bad because my mom is like my number one person. And she would talk to me and I would just look at the phone, I'd see it light up

and I'd put it down. And I was like, okay, something's wrong here. And so then eventually I posted one of the video diaries and it was met with really beautiful responses. The comments and DMs were just amazing. It was helping me cope. It was helping the viewers cope,

and it made me feel like the patient's loss wasn't in vain. So I just kept making them. And then one day, Madison, my girlfriend, came up with the idea. She said, I think that you can make people on the street feel just as comfortable as you make your patients feel. I was like, I doubt that. She's like, I think you should try. And the next day I tried, and that was three years ago.

Look at you. stories from a stranger. That's like, oh, that's so, I have so many questions. Well, first off, I'm so curious, did you always want to go into medicine and, like, help people? Is that just, like, something you've just naturally gravitated towards? So I always wanted to help people. I didn't know how that was going to manifest itself. Yeah. My mom, like, I listen to everything she says. If she says jump, I ask how high, you know. Yeah, me with my mom. Yeah, no, exactly. Rightfully so. Your mom's great. So, right. But I was in school initially for English. And my mom was nervous, single mom only child.

So she protects me in every situation. All moms do, but especially her. Like, I'm her only. So she was like, baby, why don't you think about something more stable? And then do English on the side. And I was like, okay, mom, whatever you say. So she's like, why don't you shadow a medical field? And so I chose nurse.

And the first nurse that I shadowed, I realized that this woman was healing someone with her words and medicine. Yeah. And I was like, oh, like, I love words. That's why I loved English. Medicine's cool. Let me combine the two. And then that's how I landed at nursing. And so my mom was right.

Yeah, as she always is, I'm sure. So it's mine. Like, I know you said you love human connection and you found a way to like work that into medicine. When you started working in medicine, did you notice that companionship played a huge role in people's like healing journeys? Because you know they talk about that, especially in like nursing homes. You know, end of life care.

Like a lot of times human connection helps the most. like more than medicine will, really. Did you see that a lot early on? Yeah, actually, in the early days of medicine, well, I'm not going to say early days, but let's say like 80s, 90s and 2000s, if there was a code blue, like a situation where the patient was like,

we needed to do life-saving measures, we would always make the family get out of the room, we'd push them out, we'd say, go, go, go, you have to leave, we have to do this. Now a lot of situations allow the family to stay in because having that person there leads to better outcomes. It's been statistically studied that if the patient family member or loved one is in the room, it helps the outcome of the patient. So certainly companionship and just having a human connection is what keeps people here.

Yeah, because I feel like I've seen so many stories about that too where people lived a lot longer than they thought they were going to because they were spending a lot of time with like one person, multiple people. They had someone a repeat visitor, things like that. I feel like did you see a lot of like things that maybe changed your perspective on that as well when it comes to their families and how they spend time with each other, whether they're at the end of their life or they're going through something really difficult? Like did you notice a huge difference between people who had family there versus people who didn't? Yeah. So certainly and the energy is palpable too. So you walk in the room and you just feel good. You'd say all this family is hanging out and they love each other and this person's almost at peace with what's going to happen.

Oftentimes when they're alone, it is sad. But I will say it's also about perspective. Like, I've had people alone, and they've made me laugh up until the minute that they fly aligned. Yeah. And it's really about perspective, but certainly, I would say more times than not having a person there with you, having loved ones and support systems, that makes for a better end of life experience. Yeah, I can only imagine. I'm so curious. What's your sign?

My sign? A Libra. A Libra. My man's a Libra too. Yeah? He sure is, girl. You know what, Libra man, I'll give you guys somewhat of a pass. I'm a little biased because my man's a Libra and you're a Libra.

I'll take that. And I know you're a good egg too. But, well, when it comes to, obviously, obviously we know you're a nurse now. And we know you met your lovely girlfriend back at home. Well, whatever your home is. And then also nursing. How did you guys meet and start kind of like Vibein? Yeah, so I worked as a resource nurse.

how I first started off. Thank you for asking me this. Yeah, of course. I worked as a resource nurse, which essentially means you go to different floors all the time. So I wasn't committed to one floor. I would just one day go to another one, the next month go to another.

Yeah. Her floor happened to be one that I was picking up on. And yeah, it was night shift, and I met her. It was me, her, and one other nurse. And she doesn't remember, but I do. So I didn't leave a lasting memory, I guess. Well, she's like, sorry, I completely production. I met you that night.

She said that I was, she said her first impression of me was that it was night shift. I was way too excited. She's like, you got too much going on. Exactly. I'm tired. Exactly.

But that's how we met. And it wasn't until like a year and a half later that we really started to, well, I would get to know each other. I would reach into her DMs. I'd write to. Period. Look at you.

That's not, you chased. That's so funny. My man chased me too. That's how it works. How did he chase you? My boyfriend and I went to, high school together, but we didn't date in high school.

We just knew each other. Like we were like buddies, colleagues is why I like to call it. Yeah, because we went to different colleges and then had different life experiences, dated other people. And then after college, when I graduated and moved home is when he started hitting me up. But I just like, I never reached back out because I was annoyed with him. He pissed me off. And then he chased me for a while.

And then at the end, he was like, this is my last chance. I am really sorry. Please let me make it up to you. And I was like, all right, fine. Yeah. Jokes on me. He got me. Here we are seven years later. Yeah. It shows you like whenever they're willing to work for it, that's a beautiful sign.

Period. If you wanted to, he would. Anyways. I know you just told us about the one patient that really like kind of pushed you to really start recording yourself. Were there any kind of moments where you were like, did you ever like have moments where you're like, I don't know if I can keep doing this? Because I know it's really taxing being a nurse, especially like through COVID I can only imagine. especially in ICU nurse. So I'm so curious if you ever had moments where you're like, I don't know. Because I honestly don't know how people like you do that. Like that would just, it kills me emotionally.

I can't be around that for too long. So I'm curious if you had that experience prior. Yeah, certainly I think a lot of days. And this goes for a lot of people. It certainly wasn't just me having bad experiences as a nurse or as a medical provider in general. Yeah, a lot. You have those thoughts with, I don't know if I should do this anymore. But the beautiful thing about making these videos is that it was therapy for me.

So it was helping me. It was filling my cup as a nurse. Yeah. And being a nurse is filling my cup as a content creator. Yeah. So they're kind of helping you heal. Exactly. Yeah.

It was an outlet that I needed. So a lot of days would happen at the hospital where you're like, I don't know if I can do this three, four days a week. Yeah. Because you see some stuff. And it's like one of the hardest moments of your life, really emotional trauma. You're paralyzed sedating CPR. You got to dress someone and take them to do that. the morgue and that's a Tuesday for you.

You know what I mean? Then you have to like go home and eat dinner. And you're like, I got to go to work the next day. Exactly. And just pretend like it never happened. Exactly. And it's really emotionally challenging for me to tow that line between don't build a connection with the patient at all because you don't want to take the work home with you

and build a connection to make them feel comfortable in an uncomfortable setting. That's almost impossible. I know. So what I end up opting to do is just building a connection, being really sad. You're like, mom, just ready to get hurt again. Exactly. Yeah. I think that makes you a very good nurse.

First of all, I think nurses have a hard-ass job, man. I don't know how you all do that. I think also, too, your ability to be around any sort of bodily fluid at any time is also a superpower. I will say that. Thank you. I can't even imagine that. It's like, that freaks me out, so I can't even imagine. It's funny, too, because I don't, like, obviously bodily fluids, they scare me.

Like, they would any human that's not in the medical field. But for some reason, like, anything with dogs doesn't ever bother me, animals? like animal like waste of any kind that doesn't bother me at all but my boyfriend's the opposite like he like he cannot go near animal shit at all but he could easily clean up blood like he's like yeah it's fine i'm just like peely i can't do cats my grandmother has a cat and any time it vomits i have to clean it up and uh i just i'm like gagging the entire yeah that's my boy he's so dramatic i'm always like it's fine i'm always like it's fine i'll clean it's not i don't think about like the bottle not to get two graphics. No, you're fine. I had a patient who had an IV in the jugular. And they pulled

it out. And if anyone knows anything about the jugular, that's a lot of blood that comes out. And I remember it just spraying everywhere. But I don't get phased at all. Like it was hitting me. It was hitting the ceiling. My cat pukes. My grandmother's cat pukes. I'm like, I can't do this. You're getting sprayed with blood and you're like, it's fine. Actually, no worries. Actually, no worries at all. It's totally fine. That's crazy. blood going to the ceiling. Oh my God, I'd kill myself. That's horrible.

Yeah. Well, the pressure is so high. It's the whole thing. It's, you know, the reasoning, the logical part of your brain being like, it's totally fine. That's crazy. With the cat, I'm like, why did you do this? You're like, Madison, please, come in here.

I can't do this by myself. Please. Grandma, you got to clean this one up. I'm not doing this one. Grandma, go ahead and strap in, okay? Because I can't do that. That's so funny. That's so me and my boyfriend, too.

He gags violently. Like, my dog literally took a shit. I felt so bad. for him. I think he ate something that hurt his time. My dog is a Frenchie, so he's naturally a peanut allergy kid and is allergic to everything. Like literally, squid. Literally anything. If he eats literally anything that's not within his prescription, he'll vomit. And it's funny because we went through this phase of trying to figure out what the fuck was going on with him. Because

when I took him to the vet, they're like, so it's just vomit. I'm like, what do you call it when he does that thing that that little lizard in Jurassic Park does? Like what do you goes? Like, axe. What do you call that? I'm like, whatever the Exorcist does, when her head goes all the way around and then she sprays black tar. That's how he vomits. So, like, thoughts? Like, do you have any? I don't know.

I don't think that's vomit. I feel like it's something else. And when we were going through that phase, like, he's out the other side now, thankfully, he's okay now. But one time he had an upset tummy and he's crate trained, so he will never poop or pee in the crate. Like, he could be in there forever and he would never do it. And I heard him rustling, but I didn't register it as him trying to get out when we were in our room.

the next morning I saw he literally put his ass up against the crate and shit out of it, which genius, by the way, my son is a genius. But he literally was like, he put his ass like through the hole. He found the workaround. Yeah, yeah. And he was like, I got a shit and I'm not doing it in here. And he literally shit outside the crate. My boyfriend was violently gagging.

He's like, I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't do it. Because it was pretty bad. And I cleaned it. I cleaned it. And then he helped me wash the linens and everything. He's like, thank you for cleaning.

I just can't do that. I can't do that. I was like, I know. Well, I understand completely why Peeley doesn't like it now. Like, my cat just pukes a little bit. I see now why he does. Yeah, he's traumatized us, to be honest. But anyways, we'll move on from bodily fluids.

We'll move on from that. But when it comes to your content specifically, when did you, like, what was, I know you had that one video that did really well, but when did you start seeing the stories from strangers kind of really picking up? Was there one video in particular? Was it kind of just like a gradual increase? You know, it was gradual. Let me tell you about my first video ever.

Okay, so I kind of lied. I lied again. Hunter keeps lying. Okay, so my first video ever was I was, I never had TikTok. This was 20, 21. I still didn't have TikTok. I heard about my friends having it, but I was, again, one of those guys that didn't want to go therapy and one of those guys that wasn't going to download TikTok. I was just like, no, I'm not doing that.

The same guy, yeah. So my nurse friends, it was night shift at the end of the shift. and they were doing this video where they would take expired blood tubes. It didn't have blood in them, but expired blood tubes. And they would tape them to their crocs, and it looked like a high heel.

And there was like an Iggy Azaleas song. It was like, Wakamai. Oh, yeah, the Lovatons, yeah. And so they were doing it, and I was like, what are you guys doing? And they're like, oh, this thing. I was like, I didn't mind the concept, but the visuals was like, this looks terrible, girls.

And they were like, who are you? You're like, the lighting is terrible. No, exactly. Right. Exactly. They were like, you think you can do better? And I was like, well, I could try. And so like download TikTok. So I downloaded TikTok. And I recorded it for them. And they were like, okay, that is so good. Can you send that to us? I did not know how TikTok work. I just figured out what the record button was. And so I was like, sure, what do I do? And they're like, just create it and then post it and send it to us. And I was like, okay. And then I posted it. But I didn't have them as friends. And I was private. So I thought I had to go public and send it to them. So I went public, then sent them the video. And the next day, the video had like 200. thousand views, 200,000. That was a lot because I had never seen any views. For a first video, that is a whole lot. Exactly. Yeah, hell yeah. And so that was my first video ever. And I gained like maybe one follower from it. I didn't have a profile picture. I was my only video.

So then there was more impetus for me to say, okay, while I have as much traction as I'll ever have, I want to post this video about my patient passing away. Yeah. Because hopefully it will be seen by people. Yeah. And then that's how it was. It actually, it parlayed well into that video. and that first stories from a stranger video did well and it was sort of on from there it was gradual there's certainly peaks and valleys even today there's peaks

and valleys yeah totally what was the first like stories with a stranger one the first stories with a stranger specifically yeah that video immediately was met with like well yeah it was me walking out to Bloomfield which is a small neighborhood

in Pittsburgh yeah which is where most of my videos were from oh nice obviously have since expanded. But the first two years, it was just literally just this block. Yeah. And yeah, it was a woman, it was this older woman, and I felt so bad she was carrying her groceries, but I was like so nervous. I just walked up to her and I was like, my first time ever walking up to someone, but she's carrying groceries, but it'll be quick. Yeah. It wasn't quick. I spoke for a long. She spoke to me for a long time. And I asked her, what's one piece of advice you give someone who's struggling to find happiness? Yeah. And she gave a beautiful response.

but my videos you might notice it will be like the person and then background video yeah person background video i only do that because when i was talking to this woman all i uses my camera phone yeah when i was talking to her i was so entranced in the conversation my phone kept going down oh like dipping dipping and i kept forgetting to like show her and so most of the video was her feet and i was like okay she doesn't want her i'm sure she doesn't want her just feet on the internet her giving beautiful advice yeah so every moment you could see her face, I put her face. Every moment you saw her feet, I put a background. Oh, look at my aesthetic. You're like so, so artistic.

And it's so forgetting. Exactly. Look how everyone's like, oh man, you have such an aesthetic. I'm like, yeah, I'm so artsy. For sure I do by force, but it's still there. Yeah. Oh, that's so great. But that video was the first stories from a stranger and that was since then it's been doing well. Well, you also have the series where they write stories and they put them in the bowl. How did that come about? So I interviewed a stranger. Yeah and it was a beautiful response And then at the end they're like you know what actually I'm nervous I'd prefer to be anonymous and I was like I don't know how I'd make this person anonymous

And I was fine that's cool like whatever yeah so I went home and I was like how can people give me stories And remain anonymous yeah because I know a lot of people want to tell me their story They're just nervous to show themselves on camera or at least they don't like the way they look they don't like their voice like there's something It's nothing personal it's just that they feel like they won't deliver it well yeah So how can I do that? And then that's how notes from a stranger was bred? I love that. And how is that series, like, been going?

Like, what's your, like, favorite kind of notes from a stranger? I love those videos of yours, too. They're so fun. It's a series that I, so I made them, one, for anonymous notes. Yeah. So people could be anonymous. But two, because it was so cold in Pittsburgh, I told you that's where I started. Yeah.

No one was out talking. Yeah. So my mind was, I'm just going to make these notes from a stranger for a week, two weeks, and just be done, move on back to stories from a stranger. Yeah. I thought I was a one-trick pony. I'm just going to do stories from a strange thing. And then those videos immediately, like that first notes video, I don't really pay attention

to views, but it's like 30 or 40 million views the first one. Damn, that's crazy. And since then, it's still been great. Yeah. So that's become a series of its own. Yeah. And now I consistently, like, some people are following me just for that. Yeah.

If anything, that might be, that might be an easier way to get people to talk to. Because like you said, like not everybody, and you know this now too, I'm sure, especially at this point, not everybody's as comfortable. on camera or even like like when you first start recording yourself because I'm I was a journalism major in college so when I first started recording myself and having to like at like frame it light it mic myself and then talk and then also edit it after I like hated looking at myself I hated hearing my voice like it's fucking awful when you're like rewatching it I'm still like that yeah so I can't even imagine like being vulnerable too like with someone they just met but then also like they really

want to tell their story but feeling vulnerable and then on top of that they're like and what if I look ugly exactly then um then it's even worse exactly so I think that's a brilliant idea honestly whenever I talk to a stranger not a lot of people know this but it's sometimes it can be for five minutes like digitally I want to talk for five minutes but more often than not it's like 45 minutes to like two hours that they're talking to me damn and they only see like a minute and they only see that two minute one minute yeah they only see that like distilled down version um what people don't understand this conversation, there's a lot of it that's like an art, it's sort of like a dance. Totally.

Like when you're talking to someone, you can't just be like, tell me the most vulnerable thing you've ever been through. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I would never be able to respond to that. Yeah. So it's very important, the nuance of conversation. Like, idle conversation, start the conversation, talk about the weather. Totally. You have to kind of foreplay your way into.

Yeah, it is. It is. I'm laughing, but it's true. Yeah. And it's honestly a skill. Like, you have a wonderful talent. Like being able to talk to people, but not just like, not just talk to them because anyone can make small talk. Yeah.

But like it's more so, like you said, it's an art form of making them feel comfortable enough to be able to open up to you and feel safe in doing so. And then also feel safe in knowing that you're recording it. Like that is a skill. It's like a very skilled art form. And not many people can do that. That's why I think sometimes when you see people interview, whether it's like celebrities or just random people on the street, if you don't like how the conversation, goes, it's probably because they're not very good at warming people up. And also I feel like the rise of like, you know, these kind of like quick bite like YouTube street interview type

people, people are very skeptical about talking to people on the street. Because they're like, you're going to humiliate me or something. Exactly. Because they've seen lots of examples of it. So the fact that you're not only able to get them like to a place where they feel comfortable and safe, but also share something really impactful with you is a skill. I can. I commend you on that. That's why I followed you because I really enjoy. I love, you know me, I love to fucking talk. But like I love, I love someone who has that ability to make people feel so comfortable and safe that they feel confident enough sharing a story that could help somebody else.

I think that's such a wonderful talent that you have. And I'm glad you're still doing it. And still being a nurse. Yeah. Well, so I was going to say, I think you have it too. I think it's important that we started as like a nine to five worker. Totally. and got into the social media world.

Totally. We weren't born into it. No. There's a certain, like, you build etiquette being a human that isn't on the fishbowl of society. Yeah. Yeah. We were in our 20s when we started this. Totally.

Some people start when they're 14, 15, 16. I can't even, can you imagine? Oh my gosh. No way. I don't want to see what I was doing at that age. No, and it creates, it creates such a weird dynamic for them and society as well. Totally. You have these 15, 16, 20-year-olds that were only no being famous.

And so they walk around knowing that they're the ones that built their entire life. It was never, never any human experience. Exactly. Yeah. And so you can't blame them, but at the same time, it's kind of like, that's where a lot of that clipy viral mentality comes from. Exactly. Yeah, you're so real for that. That's so true.

I was just talking about that with my boyfriend the other day because I was like, I'm really glad that this happened to me well into my 20s. Like when I was, I graduated from college already. I was working normal jobs. I was so fucking normal before this. happened to me and I'm grateful for that because I feel like it's made us better content creators too just because like we aside from just you know life experience because I think it's important to be a normal human for a long time before you do something like this because like you said it could it could just it could 100% just warp your reality and like how you see things how you see people

but past that I feel like it makes us more grateful for this especially you because your job was way fucking harder than the one I had. but like you know how how awesome it is to be able to do this for a living and like make money but you also know how hard it was not doing this and being a fucking nurse and like taking care of people and watching them pass is like geez I can't even fucking imagine yeah that's crazy that's way harder than what I was doing before this before when I got fired for my job I was not doing that so it's something's less important no well but also being a nurse is humbling being a medical provider is humbling and totally because like I said on a Tuesday you'll be like

elbow deep in someone's like butt wiping them like and they can't do it themselves yeah and so it's sad but it's also like wow this is what's happening Saturday night while my friends are out having fun it's yeah and so you develop early the sense of I'm definitely not cooler than anyone like look what I was just doing someone just peed on me someone just spit on my face like I'm not cool you know it's very humbling in a very very grounding way exactly which is never a bad thing especially when you do this because I I think I was telling when I was talking to Zach saying about it, I was telling him, like, I understand why some people, when they come into this, like you said, very young, and they ascend really fast, I understand

why sometimes they become the worst, because it's insane. Like, the shit we get to do and the people we get to meet is so weird because you're like, I'm like so not supposed to be here. Like, I'm so normal. Like, what the fuck am I doing here? And so, like, I get why that gives people this different. It's like, it just completely, reframes their mind of how they see the world and how they see people, how they see themselves. So I'm glad that you and I were so fucking uncool before this. No, really. And I don't know if you notice your friends who aren't on social media versus the people you may

associate with on social media. Yeah. But at least for me with nursing, the dichotomy of how magnanimous people that I've met on social media at a young age think they are compared to how not cool nurses think they are. Yep. I'll talk to nurses and they think they're literally like the bottom of society. And I'll talk to like social media friends or acquaintances. Yeah.

And they think they are the top of society. It's so funny that that. It's so weird. Yeah. Like juxtaposing that mentality, you're like, really? It's really gross too. Like when you see you're like, that's, I could never feel more important than that. Even when I, that's why I'm grateful for friends and I'm sure you, you are too, that are still your friend now.

Like they were your friend before. They're your friend now. And they treat you exactly the same. when I was on a podcast recently she asked me like oh you know do some of your friends like treat you differently are they weird or whatever and I was like honestly no because I was an adult like I was a full grown adult

when this happened to me so the friends I still have are still my friends and they don't give a fuck about this like they don't care that I do this for a living they're happy for me but they're not like they don't see me any differently I don't see them any differently and it's very normal which you need I was like I crave normalcy

so much now I crave people who don't give a fuck about what I do I'm super cool with that. 100%. I still have a group chat with the kids that I graduated with. I love. High school.

Yeah. And yeah, they still just roast me. They're never like, Hunter, you're so cool for doing this. Yeah, no.

Like, what's up, douche? I don't say my friends are so, like, they're so fucking mean to me in a funny way. Yeah. And they don't give a damn.

Like some of them, I'll tell them. I'm like, oh yeah, I'm doing this. They're like, oh, cool. Yeah.

They're so not, like, it's one of me and my boyfriend's really good friends that we, hang out with all the time. After I hosted Black Adam and got to meet the Rock and everything, which was really cool. When I got home, he was like, well, how was New York?

He follows me, by the way, so he knows what I did. I was like, oh, cool. I got to meet the Rock. And he was like, that's cool. And then he was like, do you eat any good food when you're over there? And I was like, yeah, I actually went to an Italian place. He's like, nice. He cared more about the fucking spaghetti I ate than who I met.

And he didn't give a shit. And I was like, and I love that. I love that for us. It's amazing to have grounding friends like that. You need that, really. You need, especially doing this. I do have another question for you. When it comes to, like, the community you've built, like, have you noticed, have you gotten

a lot of people reaching out to you telling you, like, this really healed me in a lot of ways? Or, like, this was my experience, too, and it makes me feel less alone. Like, do you get that a lot? I feel like you get that all the time. The first real video that I ever posted, not that Louis Vuitton. Not the lie. Yeah, not the lie. Got you.

The actual first video I posted. And one of the reasons why I think I still do this. was so much vigor in VIN because I like it. The first video I posted, I got a DM from someone, and they said that this video, I was thinking about ending my life, and this video allowed me to talk to my mom about it, and now I'm going to therapy,

and I just wanted to say thank you. And I didn't stop that. It wasn't me that stopped that person from ending their life. They did that. But the fact that they could even credit me with having a sliver of influence in that decision, Totally. It just felt so good.

And that was one of the first videos. That was the first video I ever posted. Yeah, of like stories with a stranger, right? Stories from there I was like, this is a thing that I want to do and that other people. Yeah. And I feel like, especially when you said you really love words and you love human connection, it seems as if it's gotten to a point where now you're walking in your true purpose, which is to connect, right?

Which I think is a beautiful thing. And I feel like that's the power of social media. That's like the beautiful side of it. And I'm sure you know this. I don't know if you do, do you forget hate, Hunter? I feel like you don't. Like if you do, it's probably just like silly shit or annoying shit. Yeah, it's hard.

Honestly, what's so fun about my community is I worked in San Francisco for a while. Okay. So there was a moment of time in my content where there are a lot of people in the LGBTQ plus community. And I would get some comments where it would be, hey, like, why so many gay people? What is this? Okay. The comment would have one like, and it would probably be the person liking their own comment. Yeah, yeah.

And it would have like 47 comments under it. Yeah. It was my comment. They're just getting jumped. Oh, my community is going crazy. Yeah, that's fine. Sometimes I believe in them in there.

I'm like, you're going to get jumped in this neighborhood. Exactly. Okay. And if you click on them, it's never, they're never following me. No.

They found my video through the algorithm. And they just want to be hateful and feel good about themselves. So no. So me receiving hate is pretty rare. That's good. That's a good thing. Especially, and that makes me feel good.

Honestly, I'm glad because it's your content is so pure and it's intent. and it makes me violently angry when people want to hate on shit like that because like if you hate me that's fine-ish, I just get it because I'm very like confrontational and I'm like I'm literally like looking for fights. Like I go and fuck people up on purpose. So like if I were to be like, what the fuck?

Why is everyone saying you hate? Then that would be insane. But yours is so pure in its intent and purpose that it makes me angry thinking about people hating on it for no fucking reason. Like there are some people I think about. where like I always reference Emily Mariko because I love her. She's so sweet and like her and I are mutuals and she's great. But she doesn't even talk in her videos and she gets so much fucking hate.

Which I find insane. I find that to be insane. She doesn't even talk and people are like, I don't know, just bad vibes. What the fuck? Like what are you talking about? So I feel the same way about your content. It's like it's so pure and its intent and purpose. And it's obvious what it's for.

And if it's not for you, scroll past. You can very easily scroll past it. But that's for every content. Like you can't really. The person talking, if you don't like it, why are you just not scrolling? I don't know. Especially in this society like where literally everything's scroll now. Yeah.

Just scroll. I just can't relate. I feel like maybe it's because we're old, Hunter. Yeah. We're so old in like social media years. Like, because I'm 20, you're 20, you're 19. Yep, yep. So look at us.

Freshly 19, freshly out of high school. But I will say that my content is, it's so detached from me, and it's always the person highlighting that the experiences that we experience are totally unique to ourselves. Yeah. But the emotions are so intertwined within all of us. Yeah, totally. I'll never understand the experiences you went through and you want to understand mine,

but I will understand the anxiety you felt and the paranoia and the upset and the love, the heartbreak. Yeah. We've all experienced those things. Just in different ways. In different ways. And because of that, that connects us. Yeah.

So I think that that's hard for someone just to go out of the way and be like, I hate the story. It's like, what? Okay. Yeah. Like, congratulations. I feel like to, even with your ability to get people to open up and feel vulnerable, I'm so curious, like, has anyone that you have spoken to and their video did really well, have they ever been like, this was so great?

Like, thank you. Like, have they ever reached back out to you and told you like, I saw the video? Thank you for sharing my story. Yeah. So when I first started doing this, that was. was rare. I would meet the stranger and then that was last time I spoke to them. I thought there was a little something poetic about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now almost every video I do without question, there'll be a comment that's like, that's my grandma or that's my mom, that's my sister. So there's

always now like, what do they call it six points of? Like six degrees of separation. Six degrees of separation. There's always someone that knows someone in my videos. Yeah. And yes, though, there are some who I've kept in contact with and they mean a lot to me. We still taught, actually I was just in San Diego. Yeah. And I got a phone call from a random Pittsburgh number. And I was like, well, it's Pittsburgh. I'll pick it up.

Yeah. And it was one of my videos that I did like three years ago. And it was this older man. He was like, hey, Hunter, I just wanted to check up. How's the video doing? Because he doesn't have TikTok or Instagram. He's like, how many views are we at? And I told him, he's like, wow.

He's like, wow. Yeah. Is he an older man? He's older. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So funny.

I love when they're like, is that like good? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Okay, so speaking of, we'll transition into our topic.

So our topic for today is basically why do horrible men on the internet love to hate on other people's healing journeys, which is what we're just talking about. I think there's obviously there's a ton of layers so that I think, like you were joking about earlier, a lot of men don't heal by choice. And they should, because everyone should and can. But I'm sure that's why there's, if you were to like, I don't know, if I were to like, if I were to like, close my eyes and point. There's always like, if I'm pointing at the guy, it's probably a man who's mad for no reason about shit like that. But that's why I asked if you get any hate because I doubt it.

But when you do, it's probably anonymous more than anything. What's on top of that point, it's like there is always a way out, like you said. There's always a way to heal yourself. You have to find it. Totally. Hurt people. That's the most cliche thing. For real.

Whatever you're about to read, these people are hurt. I already know. And it's like, it's so simple just to find different outlets. If one doesn't work, therapy does not have to work for you. Yeah. That's okay if therapy doesn't work. You have to try it first though.

Find out if it doesn't. Try it once if it doesn't. Try it a few times if it doesn't. But there's something. Is that crocheting? Is that like hanging out with your mom? Like with your dad? Like what is it?

Go hug your dad. I don't know. Okay, I'm going to read one of these videos. Okay, this first one is in this video, a girl is describing using a series of pictures. It's like one of those slideshow videos. And how over the course of several months after her breakup, she went from saying no to everything,

like not seeing friends, not being motivated to do anything, not eating healthy, not enjoying her job, to saying yes more and entering her healing era with videos of her working out, taking care of herself, going on trips, seeing her friends, all of that. And these comments are obviously very mean because people are evil.

And this one says, change your character and he probably would have stayed. Basically saying that's probably on you. Like, oh, I get it. That's one of those where she's like, I started taking care of myself after my. break up and they're like, well, why didn't you do it while you were with them? Maybe he would still be there. Yeah. Not one of those. Oh, I love to hate on healing people's journeys. Well, good for her,

though. That's what I'm saying. That's amazing. I always think if you, if you see those, if I see those videos and they're like glow ups, not even physically, like they just look happier and healthier in whatever way that may be. I always think maybe it's because they were with the wrong person. Like they always leave that part out. They're like, why didn't you want to take care of yourself when you were in that relationship probably because that person didn't make you feel good. Exactly. And when you don't feel good, you don't take care of yourself. I just feel like that's obvious.

Yeah. Do you ever see things you're like, I just feel like that's obvious and for some reason everybody's missing the point. Without a doubt, I think that the internet culture, really almost culture as a whole, but it's easy on the internet because everyone says this, but you really are behind a screen. Like you. So anonymous. You can't hurt me physically.

So how I'll say whatever. Yeah, exactly. And so with people like that, it's, it just goes back to what we're saying, if you make content and people don't like it, they can just scroll. To comment what that person just said. Yeah. That was like what, maybe two minutes of their time to watch the video, then also type. It's like, what are you doing?

I know. I always call that unemployed behavior. Because clearly it's like bitchless behavior, you know what I mean? Clearly. If you had love in your life, you wouldn't be doing that from your mom or your girlfriend. This one says there's two sides to the story. She, like most women, are evil. Okay.

I don't know about most. I am, but I don't know about most. I don't want to speak on behalf of other women. That's wrong. And it's sad because the first part of that comment is true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you have to add that second part for sure. It wasn't until my, I was in a serious relationship and we had broken up.

And at first, a lot of myself was blaming her. I was like, why did this have to end? This was my future. Like she caused this to end, what the heck? And she even thought so as well. And then as I looked deeper, I realized that, you know, I can be the toxic one too. Like there can be micro-toxicities. Like maybe certain days I don't talk to her how I was supposed to or I was passive with her and I didn't think about.

And little things like that can lead to the end of a relationship. Absolutely. And so by all means, like in that moment that girl could feel like she was the one wrong. Yeah. In reality, it could be both. Yeah. That's honestly one of the most insightful things my sister shared with me after her breakup because my sister had a very big. break up as well but when we were going through that with her and she was healing she told me that

recently and i was like that's so insightful she was saying like i look i can look back and say like i wasn't a hundred percent innocent in anything nobody is and i've said that before when you fight with people or you're a partner specifically no one's 100 percent innocent anytime you argue about literally anything at all and it's very possible that someone could hurt you and you could have hurt them too in different ways and if it didn't work out it just didn't work out um Now that's not to say that if they committed something egregious, like adultery or something like that. Obviously, that's different. But we were talking about ones that just don't work out.

And then you blame, you know, it's, I think it's part of the healing process to feel very angry and feel very upset and resentful. And then part of healing is getting to the part where you're holding yourself accountable to. And being like, I could have been better in these areas. They could have been better in those areas. It just wasn't meant to be. Yeah. And there's like a freeing part of that. Exactly.

And that acknowledgement isn't to forgive that part. person or to say they did nothing wrong. Totally. It's just to acknowledge that I had a part in this. Yeah, it's like for you. Exactly. It's like giving yourself the forgiveness for how you may have acted. And then that's just, that's for me to hold.

Like I need that so I can move on with my life, which is why I always joke when men are like, oh, well, gruelly fucked me up back in the day. And have you healed from it? Yeah. Go to therapy. 100% or do a story with strangers. Yeah, yeah. But then at the end, he says, all girls are evil.

That's crazy. how toxic. Oh, probably. This one says, why do girls have to go to the gym to heal? I thought it was for weight loss. Okay. Well, that person's probably 13, but I always know. I can always tell when it's like a child, writing the comment.

I'm like, well, clearly you're 15. Punctuation's weird. Yeah, it's all like, yeah, well, guess what? You're a big fatty. And I'm like, and you're 14. And also, the gym certainly is not just for weight loss or weight gain. Sometimes it's cardiovascular health, too. Let them know, nurse.

Tell them. Let them know. You can do it for your heart. You can do it for your circulatory system, your lungs, respiratory. Let them know, doctor. But really, though, this mindset that, yeah, women get into the gym to get that big butt and slim waist, it's like, that's not. Well, and? Just kidding.

Yeah, no, exactly. Exactly. I know. That's why it's some people literally, like, my sister calls it, she, because she, I think she's saw it somewhere, but she's, like, going outside or, like, when you go for a walk, that's also exercise, right? It's like lizard time. that's what she calls it. She's getting it outside.

Sometimes people, I think, go to the gym because they just want to get out of the house and go somewhere that's not work. And so they go and then do whatever they got to do. And at least they're around other humans and they're existing in other space, doing something for themselves. And then they go home. There doesn't have to be a goal when you go there. There doesn't have to be like, I'm going to go and I'm going to lift a thousand pounds. Yeah.

Oh, that reminds me. This is unrelated entirely to anything we're talking about. But it's just something funny that I thought of. It's like, what type of this guy? Well, I made a video. defending WNBA players because I was like I hate hearing men who couldn't make varsity in high school talking shit on professional athletes I hate it so I made a video about it obviously a bunch of men got very mad at me obviously and uh when one guy was like he was trying to argue with me and I was just being a dick like I was just saying silly shit to him and then he wrote he's like oh yeah well I bench 400 he said something like I bench 275 or 375 some fucking ridiculous number and he is how much do you bench and I was like the same I'm just lying I'm lying. See?

I lie all the time. I'd just be lying and tell people I was like, yeah, I can bench that much. I bench that much yesterday. I didn't. But I love how he throws that as bench. Where did that come from? I don't give a fuck.

I was like, okay, you bench 275? How many dates have you gone on in the last week? How about that, bitch? Jeez, Louise. Okay, I'm going to read this next TikTok. This one is, in this TikTok, a hyper-masculine, AI-generated cartoon guy

There's a lot of those. Yeah, that's a lot going on already. It's giving a pep talk to the camera. He says, you should never post your achievements on social media. It says post-alcohol, post-memes, post-jokes, so that they think you have no future. People hate progress. Succeed in silence. They can't destroy what they don't know.

And then Amanda put question marks in parentheses. Wow. Wow. It's like those grind in silence type dudes. I love those guys. They're talking about us, Hunter. They're like, don't post things that you do that are good. Exactly.

They're talking shit on us. This one says, don't post anything. Work in silence. There you go. Well, said they can't destroy what they don't know. What are you talking about? What are you talking? Sometimes I see what men like that say on the internet.

I'm like, I feel like you're living in a different world than I am. What are you talking about? No, and it's like also people think that they're at like war. It's like you realize like you're just a dude hanging out in society. Yeah. you're fine. Like even like the worst case scenario and but you're like you're doing fine. It's like you're fine. You're good. Yeah. Don't worry about it. Like you're not under siege. Why are you acting like you're in the trenches trying to like build up like these? For real, dude. Oh my God. I. That's kind of why I was dying at the, did you see when the UK was saying they were going to draft men and women? Yeah. And then a bunch of women were making funny silly ass videos about it. Like they were like, oh, I can't. Sorry. Yeah. And just all red heart. That's it. Like, I'm actually, like, I'm actually going to get my period next me, so I won't be there. Appreciate it, though.

But I saw a lot of men getting mad, and they were like, see, this is why women want equal rights, but, like, we're going to have to go to war. I'm like, you're not going anywhere. You live in Michigan. You're not going to the UK war, bitch. Like, the UK's not drafting you. Relax. Like, the conscription thing, ooh, they hate that. And it's like the saddest thing is, is there are situations where war is going on in this current world.

Yep. Those guys writing on TikTok videos are not part of that. And you could go. Yeah. They could go. Yeah, exactly. Go to your nearest list, like listing office. Literally you could walk in there and list if you wanted, but they won't do that.

Because then they wouldn't be in our comments harassing us. They're like, I actually have a full-time job harassing sweet stories from strangers. Yeah, exactly. Can't go to war either. Unfortunately, I'm very busy. And what's wrong with posting achievements anyway? I don't. Again, it's like scroll past.

Yeah, I don't know. Posting achieves. They just want negativity constantly. Yeah. Also, if you're just posting alcohol and drugs, whatever he just said, or the AI said, that is building such a negative connotation on what should be posted. Yeah. People say the internet's toxic, but that's because a lot of it could be alcohol, drugs. Yeah, like shit, that's all negative and bad.

What if the internet was always everyone's achievement? That would be such a nice place to be. Everybody was like nice to each other. Yeah, exactly. God, what a world. That would be crazy. They're asking for the opposite, which is crazy. Yeah, and it's also, well, and then even so, like, when.

people like you, when you put out your content and it's like literally nothing but positive, it's supposed to uplift and encourage and help people, whoever it may be, they'll still be like, well, actually, like, they'll still have something negative to say. So it's like, we're actually trying to like uplift the energy in here and you're really in a real fucking drag. Exactly. So we're such a fucking drag. Shit. I'm like, you guys just want to see negative shit all the time? I don't. It's exhausting. Unless it's coming from me, then it's funny. this last one says literally all war is based upon deception you literally that's what the last comment says yeah it says all war war

what war every time it's the same thing when men will say shit like like awful fucking men on the internet will say things like oh well you want men to go away or you don't want men in the world whatever which no one ever says that uh they're like well who's going to build the buildings and who's going to build the roads and who's going to build the and i'm like i don't fucking know but as long as it's not you i don't give a shit who does it first of all but second of all I'm always like how many buildings have you built probably the same as me so it turns out we're both useless fucking women huh because we're both at home on our phones like we're both at home well you've been built shit and I do want to say that

my father left me my mother did not so I don't know if that says something about like can I say something also my boyfriend also has same situation single mom yeah same situation and good eggs look at you and he's a Libra Mm-hmm. Wow. You pull off your face and you are, Billy. Great hair, long hair. See what I mean? Peely, right to me after this. This is cool.

You guys were brothers. What if it was like a parent trap thing? Oh, that would be crazy. Listen, he has some amazing hair. I can't. My hair is not like his. No, you guys both have wonderful hair. It's great. Actually, this morning, and he's going to be so glad I remembered,

he told me, make sure you tell him he's got great hair. And I was like, okay, I'll make sure I tell him. I'll put that at the top of my list. Yeah, well, tell him, I tell him. said the same. I'm so happy I got to talk to you. I'm like genuinely I adore you. You're so awesome.

Thank you, Drew. I'm really, and I mean this with all, I know I'm such a silly goose on the internet, but I mean this with all the seriousness in the world. I think people like you are essential to the internet. I really do. And I think people like you make a huge difference in the, just the overall energy of the internet.

Like people like you make me feel like the internet isn't the worst place in the fucking universe because it does feel that way sometimes. but I'm really, really glad that you exist in the platform. I think people like you are essential, far more essential than people like me. So I'm very happy that you exist there. That last part is not true, but thank you so much. That really means a lot to feel seen about you.

I appreciate you. Thank you. And I appreciate you and your content very, very much. And I do want to ask you one last question. What would you say is your best piece of advice for people that really want to, like you said, you weren't really sure how, but you did know for sure that you wanted to form human, connection because that's where your heart is and that's where you shine clearly.

So there are people out there who wish for that kind of like connection or whatever, even if they're in a job like how you're a nurse still and maybe they have a job too. Like what would you say is your best piece of advice if they want to foster that kind of connection and maybe just don't know how to start? Yeah. Foster connection to make content or just foster to make. Both. I would say both.

Like whether it's coming from content or just from like a purely like they just want to because remember you said, I remember you said too when we were at Meta that you you were saying a big reason why you wanted to do is because you wanted to feel that connection again like whether it went anywhere you didn't care you just really wanted to like feel like humans are inherently good and there is good in the world which i think is kind of hard especially nowadays yeah well uh on that i would say there's always a wall that we have naturally like i understand that and that's completely okay yeah understand that breaking down that wall will facilitate the best communication and when you talk to someone,

it is a fact as much as gravity is real that this person has felt emotions that you have felt as well. Again, different reasons why, totally different reasons why. You might not come from the same world. But pain, love, anxiety, anything, they felt that on the same spectrum

that you felt that. Totally. So understand that you are connected. You're already connected. It just takes that conversation. Absolutely. And people want to talk and people want to listen. Yeah.

I think the listening thing is a huge, part. Like you're so, you're such a good listener, which I think is a big reason why people feel so safe when they talk to you. And what if people want to make content when it comes to that? Yeah. If people want to make content, you have to go into it not searching for that viral moment again. Exactly. Yeah. Again, my conversations will be two hours long. I mean, I have one that was like three and a half. You could see the sun and then by the end of it, it was nighttime. It was strange, but you have to realize that at the end of the day, why are you doing this? You want to build a connection with someone okay the video doesn't turn out how you want it to you build a

connection still yeah totally if every moment you're searching for that person to say a word that you think's gonna get you that million views or get you that that viral moment yeah you're doing it for the wrong reason that that they're the audience is gonna see that yeah when you're proud of your work the audience sees that when you're not proud of your work and you're trying to do these viral moment clips yeah they can see that as well and that might work in a vacuum for a tiny bit of amount of time but it's not going to work it's not going to sustain no it's not going to sustain you You're going to be chasing something always When you're chasing something, it's just...

Yeah, it also defeats the purpose, right? The whole point of it was for you. And that's why I'm... And I truly do believe this that, like, if you chase it for the wrong reasons, the universe will withhold it from you. I, like, truly do believe that. And you weren't searching for that.

I wasn't searching for that, and it happened for us. And that's just because it was meant to is how I see it. So, yeah, I think you're amazing, dude. Thanks for coming on the show. Thanks for having, you're the best. And thank you all for watching. Where can everybody find you, Hunter? You can find me on all social medias,

and all social media is Hunter Prosper. Period. Make sure you all go follow Hunter. He's amazing. He's so talented and so sweet. Thank you. And before we go, I just want to say, I love you, Mom. Oh, sweet.

I love you too, Mom. Thank you, there's one like that. Thank you so much for joining us on this episode of the comment section. Make sure y'all go, Funter, follow Hunter on literally everything, because he is so amazing and talented and he's going many different places and working on many amazing things, which I'm sure you guys will hear about soon.

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Bye! Drew, you got that down. Period. Period.