The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - FULL BEAT CORN Ft. Christina Kirkman | Episode 192

Episode Date: October 22, 2025

Christina Kirkman is on the show this week! Drew and Christina talk about why Halloween is their favorite holiday, Christina’s dirty SpongeBob theory, auditioning for Nickelodeon’s Funniest Kid (and winning), filming intimacy scenes, dating straight male actors, and so much more. Listen to Christina’s podcast Life’s a Joke!Youtube: https://youtube.com/@lifesajoke_pod?si=dPr9Us27VM9p5_uqSpotify: https://spotify.link/QcwKcuEIDXb Follow The Comment Section on IG! https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/ eBay is the place for pre-loved and vintage fashion.Get beauty from people who get beauty, Only at Sephora Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me your favorite everybody knows me who cares about me on to the guest today we have the iconic the hilarious they're unbelievably talented christina kirkman yeah oh mustard i'm wearing a mustard costume oh my god that's such a funny joke did you not who me come in the kendrigger reference i love that yeah if you're i was going to explain myself if you're if you're listening i'm wearing a mustard costume yeah there you go what i was going to say is i you know because your people talk to my people because we're in hollywood and we do that and uh i was going to wear a costume regardless right And I thought I was going to make like an interesting choice.

I was going to show up and they were like, oh, this girl's so different. And then your team is like, Drew dresses up. If you want to dress up, I was like, oh, fuck, bitch. So honestly, I'm glad. I'm glad that was your knee-jerk reaction. Yeah, I was going to go for it regardless. Yeah, that's mine. Yeah.

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Yeah. A full beat. Yeah. I'm just like corn and you're feeling silly. Are you doing this all October? Yes. I love that. Yeah.

So I've done a highlighter, the Mona Lisa. Yeah, I saw that. And then I was just a fish. Okay. What kind? No, I'm corn. I honestly don't know what kind of fish. Okay.

A big fat one. Honestly, it was the biggest thing ever. It was like, it was like horse blinders when I was wearing them. But it was too, honestly. I was ready to commit. I was ready to commit. Perfect. Halloween is my favorite holiday.

Oh my God, mine too. So when I first started dating my boyfriend. six years ago, I said, like, oh, Halloween's my favorite holiday. But he went to ASU. Okay. So if you say that to like a dude from ASU, it's like, oh, I like to have sex. You know what I mean? Like, that's what it means when you say I like Halloween.

Yeah, like, I love Halloween. I'm like, no, no, you don't understand. I was Coraline last year. Like, I fucking sewed fucking buttons to my eyes. Right. I'm committed to the bit. I love that about you. Thanks.

Honestly, and I think a lot of funny women do love Halloween. It's a blast. It's a time to be silly. Don't get me wrong. I'll dress like a hoe too. Yeah, I love that. Range, we need range. That's what I'm saying.

Like, you never know my next move. Right. I think when I was in college and I started doing group costumes with like my girlfriend. Yeah. My rule was always like, I don't care if it's slutty. It just has to be smart. Like I wanted to be something cool. Yeah.

Like something niche, something awesome. Yeah. And we can hoe it out if we need to. Right. But like as long as it's something cool that I'm in. Oh, yeah. And I think the very first one we ever did was we were spring breakers. Oh, of course.

So we just cut holes in being. Yeah and wore bikinis, which was perfect. That was like a shoe in. Yeah, and it was a hit. Like we killed all night. One of my friends though got too drunk before we left the house and didn't cut holes in her beanie. So she was just a girl in a beanie. Right.

But that's on her, honestly. Right. She was like, I didn't cut the holes. And I was like, well, now there's three of us. The whole costume is. Yeah. And then they were like, okay, so string breakers and girl in a beanie. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And she didn't care. So we did like, we did some whack ass shit. What did we do? We did painters. I don't know. I think we were in an overall phase. we just like put paint on our body and love

overalls we're like yeah we paint things and then one year we did do remember that song give me the business I think so we were just like business hose like there was no creativity I love that yeah you know as you get older it evolves yeah it gets more clever and still with like the slutty in there and now I'm just you know mustard and I had this shit right like this was packed

and ready. I had easy access to this. I honestly have quite a few costumes in my house, most of which I did own before doing this. Yeah. So like I do love a good costume. Oh, same. And I love the cheaper looking the better in my opinion. Oh, 100. Like when it looks really thrown in together and haphazard. Yeah. I'm in one of my best friends. She has an FBI, uh, federal body inspector. She's worn it. I've been friends with her for 10 years. Every fucking year. That bitch wears it. It's now just FB. And we're like, yeah. You gotta fucking switch it up. I got a mustard costume.

Please get a new federal body. It's like coming up. It's like a fashion nova. Like the letters are chippers. But like for some reason, it's just like even cooler every year. Every. Honestly, bitch.

She's got full blown camel toe now. It's 10 years old. I'm like, dude, free drinks all night, man. You wear that federal body inspector. You wear that baby. You wear that shit girl. I think a couple years ago I was I was she Hulk. But I was a very specific version of she Hulk.

And then my man was, the Hulk right and so like when I when I did the makeup and stuff it was awesome but then when we posted it people are like they're cousins and I was like they're also uh not real right they're also fake bitch yeah they're make believe so let's go off that right right like let's go off dude it's fucking Halloween man yeah yeah we doing well also like I know that she Hulk is supposed to be with daredevil right I'm sure you can imagine my apprehension with making my man dress up as a Of course. Of course.

Character or not, it felt insensitive. Believe it or not, I did my research before I did the costume. So I thought, you know, maybe we make you the Hulk. So that I don't want to do anything like that. And they still. And they were still like, yeah, and some of you guys are cousins and you're still together. I was like, all right. So I know a couple cousins.

Pretend we're in Alabama. Like, and now you don't have a fucking... Now what? I love that you love Halloween. What's one of your favorite costumes you've ever done? Oh, my favorite costume. Costum, man. I mean, I did love Coraline.

That was sick. I did like the whole button makeup tutorial. So good. I'm trying to think like what other. I mean, this is from, I have two weiner dogs. So this is actually. I do want to talk about your weanor dogs.

I mean, I'm down to talk about them. This is my boyfriends. I have a ketchup one. I broke it out last week just because, and it has some questionable stains on it. Yeah. So I didn't wear that one. But I was ketchup.

He was mustard. And then we did our Halloween photos outside. Oh, and they were hot dogs. That's so fucking cute. So that was a good one. I have two Frenchies. So squid and tuna. Great names.

Yeah. Thank you. What are your, you guys do four costumes, right? You're not. Yeah. We've dressed them up like just in pairs as them. And tuna's completely 100% deaf.

So like he's honestly, you would think deaf dogs are like harder to like, like do things with like you would do with normal honestly he's like the most well-behaved because he doesn't know what the fuck is going on like he's never agitated he's never angry because he can't hear shit right he can't be oversimulated yeah those ears are for real for sure like they're so useless his they turn all the time they hear nothing so like this year i was thinking about dressing them up as each other okay or also pain and panic from hercules i love because i thought that would be really funny oh my but are you like committing to making these costumes no for them no mostly because they cost me enough money as it is right as I said they're Frenchies right that does come with a bill no they're

hymenians yeah because I wanted dogs are kind of up there too sometimes what the fuck man I got like little babies also I got I got I got dogs too because like I love to walk and I'm like oh this will be fun like it'll I'll leave the house I got two dogs that fucking hate walking like they they literally hate walking so I never leave I'd like never leave I'm like what the fuck you're all perfect so now there's four couch potatoes no dude we do nothing like this is my first day out of the house this month And it will be like that the whole month. Yeah, my dog, same thing.

Well, the good thing is about them being like, you know, tiny and small and overweight. You can just shuttle them around. Yeah. Well, and also, like, if they do a couple laps up and down my hallway, they're like, work up for the year. And they have to lay down for 20 minutes. So it works. It kind of works out in my favor.

Okay. They're also not overweight. They're perfectly sized. My, one of mine, which I just, anyway, this is whatever. One of my dogs is in hydrotherapy. Shut up. Don't say anything. He's got back problems.

So he does the little water treadmill. So that's his workout. I'm like, good king. You're good for the fucking month. But Halloween costumes, I really want to dress. So my youngest demonic daughter, Willa, I really want to do Kill Bill. I want to do Kill Will.

That's such a good idea. I can't fucking find the yellow jumpsuit. And I'm like, do I really want to make a fucking yellow jumpsuit? I mean, what else am I doing? I'm not leaving my house. Might as well. Might as well. That's a great one.

That's a good one, right? And she's blonde. She's got so many. We could do Willa Wonka. Dude, we were firing these. I was so stelling the other night. I was like, I have a great idea. I'm going to make a fucking kill bill costume.

And then I was like, I don't know how to sew. What do I don't know how to do any of that. I don't really. I know that's, I feel like pain and panic came to me. That's a good one. I was high. I was like, well, and they're annoying like them.

So that's how I figured if they could talk, they would talk like that. That's a great. What a great animated duo. That's an underrated. animated duo I'm saying what's your favorite animated duo duo probably lilo and stitch yeah if I had to pick that honestly like the portrayal of their borderline abusive relationship when she first adopts him that is my relationship with my

oldest dog squid okay that is my baby that is my son my literal child I birthed him he grew inside me I gave birth to him I will not he literally like the way he just shoves her to the ground and shit that is how he treats me like for real and she like puts the lay on him and and he calms down for a second. That's my dog. Like, for real, that is him and that is how he acts. So I would say the two of that probably. What about you?

Dude, SpongeBob and Patrick. Oh, that's a great one. It's, it's my favorite TV show of all time. My senior thesis in college was you had to take some art and like basically transform it into a different medium. Okay. And I watched 300 episodes of SpongeBob and I made it an adult swim show. Oh, cool.

It's the dirtiest fucking show. Let me give you my. I have actually never talked about this. Let me give you my theory. This is this was my high school brain that came up with this theory. Okay. Bikini bottom. Okay.

SpongeBob is absorbent. He's a tampon. Squidward is phallic. He's penis. Okay. But this is where, and then you crabs is crabs. Sandy cheeks. Sandy cheeks.

But then it gets dicey because Patrick. I'm like, what the fuck is Patrick? He's the clit. Because he's just a pink blob and he, lives under a rock he's hard to find i'm gonna be honest dude i i feel high listening to do i know this this is i say this shit to my boyfriend who doesn't smoke and he's like yeah i like don't know where to go oh my god if i had a nickel for every time i was like no get this yeah no saying i talk for 45 minutes about something that makes no sense and then at the end of the scene nobody's on the opposite side of

that conversation it's just me and a wall get this yeah like me alone there's no one there carrying it by myself it's the like uh most genius writing ever I still watch it every fucking night. It's my favorite show. It never gets old. It's so funny. And it's the only show. Like, I only watched animation growing up.

And I'm, now I'm like, that's why so many parents could sit and watch that show. Yeah. Because whatever joke went over my head, they got. But like, it's just such a good fucking show. I know. It's very layered. I would say the earlier seasons are some of the best TV work done, in my opinion.

I agree with you. And that reminds me of, if we're speaking early 90s, like Nickelodeon. So I know you did do some act you've been an actress for a long time and you were child star Sure when you did that open call tape right like that thing yeah I have to tell you this is the most this is the funniest most full circle thing ever okay my sister Well auditioned for that same thing and she like sent in a tape she was like this is it for me like I'm gonna do it and then you got it and I remember my sister being like wow what a fucking bitch yeah And then she's like, she literally, when we saw it founding on TikTok, she was like, oh my God, that's the girl that won that fucking contest. That's fucking killer. I know that bitch.

Dude, wow. Yeah, you stole someone's dream. Dude, I get it like, I've had people like to this day, like, they'll come up to me in the streets and be like, I auditioned for that. And I'll be like, dude, where do we go from here? And now my life is in shameless. Yeah, I'm like, right. I'm like, I don't know what to fucking say, but like that's, I get that so, I mean, so many fucking kids. It was over 10,000 kids.

I know. That was like a, and also I feel like that was a pretty, shows weren't doing shit like that. No, at all. That's why I, I so distinctly, I remember my mom recording my sister. Oh yeah. What, like trying to do it. Do you remember the, because I remember my, because you had to go online by your last name and you had to get a scene. Do you remember the scenes?

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I'm from Amanda It's like Penelopee Okay Was that a was that like a script or did you do your own The script and then there was like a character My mom okay Yeah that's right Dude and I was just watching because I was too young to audition

Yeah oh were you? Was there? I'm two years younger than her so like What was the I was 10? How old did you have to be? I think I don't know probably 10 Yeah. Shit.

And then sometimes like if my sister saw it and then my mom would be like, because we did everything together. Like we're like Irish twins. Okay. So like sometimes my mom would be like, let Jason do this. Right. I'd be like,

I want to do it too. I want to do it too. My mom was like, let her do this. Yeah. Oh my God. Like we had to like separate us sometimes. So we had some separation.

Wait, I can't believe I never heard this, this story. You waited for you. Yes, I waited for this moment. Exactly. To bring it up.

Great. So the podcast is over. When we're in the green room, she goes, make sure you bring up that she stole my dream. Oh my God. That is hell. Yeah, man. Well, how was that? What was that experience like for you?

I'd love to know. I feel like it's living the dream as a kid. Well, I mean, hey, listen, I think what made it really cool for me is that I wasn't a child actor. Yeah. And I think I had no fucking expectation. And most of the kids that went out for that were child actors because they did casting calls in basically.

all of the quote unquote Hollywood hubs. Yeah. And then I did a self-tape, which now being an actor as an adult, I'm like, no one's watching the fucking self-tapes when there's in-person auditions. Right. And the craziest thing is, I hate saying this because I feel like it kind of, you know, fucking ruins my credibility. I never watched a goddamn episode of all that.

It doesn't really credibility at all. I don't think. I didn't know. I watched, the only reason why I knew about the contest was because the commercial was on during SpongeBob. Mm-hmm. And my friends loved all that. Yeah.

And I was like, fuck it, I'm funny. Let's fucking, let's do this. Yeah. And my dad went downstairs, got the video camera. And I, my first, I think I did two tapes. The first one was you had to go online by your last name and find whatever sides. And mine was meeting Jay Leno. Okay.

And I'll never forget. I turned to my mom and I was like, who's Jay Leno? And then she had an angriism. Crazy. The first celebrity I ever met. when I touched down in LA was Jay Leno at Bob's burger and I think this might be a Mandela effect because my mom just got a brand new like Sony camera she was like you never gonna believe this my daughter's first scene was about meeting you can we get a

photo we get a photo and then someone stole my mom's camera and I never saw that photo so it might have been like a lucid dream I could be lying I could be lying I've smoked a lot of pot in my life I don't know I mean that's for sure but so crazy and then we just had to do like impersonation so i did sandy cheeks i did like a uh break dancing rapping dj i did steve irwin rip yeah i did i don't even fucking know but i just like sent it in and then every friday night from 10 000 to top five they would air like top 10 oh i remember and i was like oh shit man i think i think i'm i think i'm going to l a think i'm this is crazy we watched that like Jason didn't get drafted.

We were like, no way. Fuck. No way, dude. No way you didn't get the call. Damn. Yeah, man. That was. And then as far as being on the show, I mean, I had a blast.

I like, you know, technically, you know, Amanda Bines was my, like, it was just fucking nuts. Yeah. The people, like my, it's funny, Nick Cannon just started following me on Instagram. And I'm like, I wonder if he knows that he. He was one of the judges because the three judges for top five, it was like America votes. And then the host was Taryn Killam.

And this is when Taryn Killam was dating Amanda Bynes, which is just crazy seeing that as a kid, that dynamic, what a random dynamic. But it was Nick Cannon, Josh Peck, and Amanda Bines were the judges. Wow. And it was just real holy Trinity at the time. Real Holy Trinity.

Yeah. I mean, it's, I was really, really lucky by mom quit her job on the spot. So I had an adult supervising me 24-7, which it's an adult industry. Well, thank God. I mean, I'm already fucked up. I can't, yeah, I couldn't afford to be any more fucked up. But it was fun. It was just like going to a big playground every day. Like, I loved the cast. I was the youngest one. They took me in and I used to follow them around like Jack Desena, who after all that ended up doing Avatar, one of my favorite people to this day, super, super talented and funny.

He was kind of my big brother, and I would just follow him around set, and whatever character he was written to do, I would try to copy the voices he was doing. And then the writers would just kind of write me into play his little sister as like the smaller version of his character. So it was a blast.

It was really fun. Look at you. Get in where you fit in. Yeah, it was fine. I mean, going back to Massachusetts was, you know. Yeah, like after that. Oh, yeah. I was terrible.

But being on, it was great. I mean, that's fucking awesome. Yeah. And it's so full circle. The world is so small because here we are together. Yeah, I'm, I, yeah. Snatched the dream of a million children. I'm so sorry.

Don't hold it against me. It was rigged. Well, fast forward to TikTok. So how did you get on TikTok? Like, what was it that made you know? Against my will. Right. You know, just to say the normal trajectory, like shit on it for long enough.

And then you're like, well. Yeah. What else am I doing? I mean, I was acting full time before TikTok, and then, you know, I was like, I got to make money, what am I doing? And then I got Winston, my first dog. And I was like, I started, I had TikTok.

I wasn't taking it seriously. I started posting videos of him on my TikTok, and people loved it. And I'm like, oh, I love voiceover. I love animation. What if I kind of make him a character and hide behind it in that way? Because at the time, it was still taboo. to be an actor and be on social.

It was like, yeah. I know what you mean. I've had a few actor friends come on the show who have said that. It was just dicey then. And already as somebody that's like, I wasn't working a fuck ton where I was in a position to just be like, I'm going to do TikTok too. I wanted to be really cautious about it.

So I kind of made accidentally this character for my dog. And it was so fun. And then I'm like, oh my God, people want to pay me to do this. Yeah. And then after doing that for so long, I had this epiphany of like,

this is a fucking dog, this is not sustainable. Yeah. What if I just do it for myself? And then one day I just committed and it kind of took off. And it's just so much more rewarding because I love acting.

I will always love acting. I'll always do it in some capacity. But you only get to work like maybe one or two jobs a year. Yeah. And I was so tired of waiting for permission to entertain. With TikTok, I can, I don't have to get on at all. Yeah. I can get on every day.

It's way more fulfilling in that way. Yeah. And the payoff is better in that regard to. Yeah. Which like I'm obviously like I had no no like entertainment plans really outside of sports when I first started doing this because that that was my path originally. What was sports? What were you in? Oh, football.

Because I worked at the NFL but then I got fired two weeks before the pandemic hit. And then that's when I started making TikTok videos. So that's how I got into TikTok. But like at the time like what I really wanted was to entertain. right like i wanted to be on camera i just thought sports was the way like i was like okay i'll just go this route because i didn't think acting was an option for me like i didn't think i could pursue that for real so i was like let me just do journalism that's a little bit more sustainable i guess in that regard and i could still be on camera and then kind of maybe work from there yeah i thought i was going to be

like a like a reporter or like a i don't know like an analyst that's the name i thought i would be something like that and i was like okay first woman like i was like okay i could do something like that Like that was like my thought process at the time. But what I really want to do is like entertain people. Totally. So then when you start doing this like it's almost like, you know sometimes people get pissed because they're saying like, oh, influencers are like crossing over into other more serious forms, which is like acting, singing, that kind of thing.

Which now I'm like venturing into acting, which I've always wanted to act. I just didn't think it was an option for me. And so now I'm like, well, yeah, I'm going in a back door because everyone's taking too goddamn long. And that's, yeah. Well, like I've always been at this weird. intersection of that conversation because to be honest

when I was an actor full time I had those negative thoughts towards content creators where I was like because here's the thing too is like I think that this is entertainment and I think like for acting for an example my question one day was like what do I like what do I love about making no money

working harder than everybody I know but I'm not employed missing funerals and weddings and all of this like what is it that keeps me here besides the fact that I'm delusional. And it was, I like to entertain. Right. And I was like, okay, I don't have to go one path to achieve that. Yeah.

And then when you have that realization, you're like, oh, I can do this whole world opens up now. I can do acting. I can do voiceover. I can do this. Totally. I think it was, I think it's just changed so much. I know back then a lot of that resentment came from actors

really had to go through hell to make like 5% progress. Right. And then to see these creators kind of come in And when influencers became a thing. Yeah, it was, they just, they just take them for the money. It was this entitlement. It was this entitlement of, oh, because I have X amount of followers, I'll be entertaining in this mode.

And the reality is, is like, a lot of actors suck ass at social media and a lot of, like, social media people can't act. So like, but there are people that can do both. T, yeah. And you need to experience that world for it to open up. I agree. But it was just weird back then. And there was a, like, we just had a lot of resentment.

Honestly, because it was jealousy. I know that I was jealous and had resentment because I was like, damn, these motherfuckers have control over their career. I'm told like, don't get tattoos. Don't color your hair. Don't go on vacation because you might book a job. Don't, you know, don't post anything on social media because then you're social media. It's just like we had so much resentment. All of that is. And that's very, um, like you said, it's like it's changed so much. So it's like the evolution of, of, of, of, of. Oh, it's blended. Yeah. And I get that too because I, I, even as someone who, who is an influencer, like, blew up as an influencer.

I get it because there are a lot of influencers I fucking hate. Yeah. So when I see them with no talent doing other shit. Yeah. No, for sure. It's annoying. 100%. So I was like, I've said before too that sometimes I think you can tell.

Right. Like you can tell when someone didn't want to act. Yeah. This was just a big opportunity. Manager called and was like, hey. Yeah. They're like, hey, I got this role for you. Lots of money.

Lots of press. It works for your career. You can fucking tell. I think it's the point. So that's why I'm like sometimes I've told people, remember that sometimes what people. blew up for is not actually what they wanted to do forever. That exactly.

Sometimes it's just a vehicle. Yeah. And I think you and that's why I said I think audiences are a lot smarter than sometimes creators give them credit for so they can tell when it's inauthentic. Oh like I started that shit immediately. Right. And I started acting lessons recently and like my acting coach told me like when I was first telling him because I've had a poor experience with an acting coach before. Of course.

That wrote me off as soon as she found out what I started as which I again, I understand but you took the meeting with me so I kind of figured you knew. Uh, when we talked about it, so when I met with my now acting coach, I kind of explained him, this is what I did. Like this is, but this is what I want to do. This is where I'm going. That kind of thing. And then he's like, the only question I have is like, do you really want to do this?

Like, is this something you really want to do like this would be a dream? And I said, yeah. And he goes, then that's it. That's all you need to know. And he was like, that's, I think that. And I also think if I'm taking lessons, I'm taking the shit serious. Right. I don't have to do. If I was just some asshole that's like, well, I have eight million followers.

Right. Right. I wouldn't be going and asking for someone to help teach me. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So I think it's like, it all depends on how people handle like transitioning into the craft, I think. 100%. I think that transition matters. I mean, listen, I think that even as an actor, there are like, there are actors that are shitty that other actors are like, how the fuck did they? That like, what the fuck is? I just sat around and a struggle. Yeah, bad people getting promoted. Yeah, my acting class for six years. What the fuck is this? Like that resentment, it's like. It's natural.

It's natural. But the, the world are so. integrated. At the end of the day, I truly believe if you know how to entertain, you can, you can kind of take that vehicle anywhere. And you should take that vehicle anywhere. But I think there's a lot of resentment because people like to put people in boxes. And I agree. My resentment, too, trying to get out of like being a child actor, I took 15 years off. I come back to L.A. Being an egotistical douchebag being like, I was a serious regular on our show 15 years ago. I'm to work and everyone's like dude you've been out of here for 15 years we don't know what to do with you and everybody wanted to put me in kids comedy and that's why i was also so nervous about getting on

social media because i'm like i don't want to be the fucking ticot girl i just got out of being the all that girl yeah but that's why you're actually so real for that but like but you you have the flexibility the cool thing now is like you and what you don't have when you're struggling actors you really do have control over your brand with social and you can say no and that's so empowering as a struggling actor, the word no doesn't exist. Like, you have to be do-eyed. You have to say yes to everything. Just in case.

Just in case. They know someone who knows someone. Right. So I think like that's what's really empowering about social media is like I can say fuck no. I don't have to work with shitty people. And honestly like as I've done quite a few reads like haven't booked anything yet. That's part for the course, man.

I'll keep you guys updated. I literally did a read for a really big show that's coming out soon. and they asked, they reached out to me. Right. And the role is literally an influencer that hosts a successful podcast. That is literally the byline for it. Okay. I didn't get it.

They said, you know what? Chew on the nose. Let's make it. Let's make an interesting choice. That bitch, actually. I literally got it and I, in my slate, because I'm, sometimes I'm silly in my slate, which by the way, I, this is to suck a slate. For real, in my slate, I'm going to start lying about my height.

You should. You should just lie about everything. I know. I said six, I say six feet. And then I started saying, but if you guys need me to be five, ten, I can. Like, I started saying that at my sleep because I'm really like, I think they're like, behemoth, no, we're not casting that bitch because I'm too tall. So I think I need to start lying more.

Well, you know what it is too. So many, like when there's, I'm always on an apple box. I've just accepted like, where's your fucking Apple box? Yeah. Male actors are really fucking short. I know, girl. Like, they're really fucking. fucking short. So that, like a lot of times, I mean, I've been on set where the girl is taller

and homeboys on a fucking Applebox. I'm like, you know what? And that's fine. Which this is something I'll ask you because you're, because you're an actor already. Oh boy. How do you feel about like romantic, filming romantic scenes? Because the thought sends chills down my spine. Yeah, it's terrible. It's the worst thing. I'm so afraid to do it. Okay. Also, I'm me acting like I have something. I have like so... I just watched a very old... I mean, I just watched a very, very old clip of Zendaya probably seven years ago.

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Or romantic about it. It's like kissing your grandma like there is it could not be more uncomfortable like methodical even even if you have it's it's not even has anything to do with whoever you're having the scene with it's like i'll tell you my first um i was on a show called ambitions and i was just fucking everybody i was fucking everybody on that show and um just like you know wives husbands like no one was safe and that was my first time having intimate scenes and it was the most terrifying thing and my best friend Mina her mom is uh machin who did twin peaks iconic actress she did gossip girl and uh she played lily reinhart's mom on riverdale so i call her in atlanta i'm like hey i have a threesome

scene what's your advice and she's like just have fun darling like she was like have a blast and i'm like i'm in the hotel room like what do i do mation she's like oh have fun like just enjoy it and i mean that's really all you can do because if you start fixating on on how uncomfortable it is. Make-out scenes is like, whatever. Typically, it's a closed set when you're doing those kinds of scenes. So they tried to really just keep an intimacy coordinator,

maybe a hair and make a person. You're deep, like, it's closed. But for a threesome scene in particular, right? Like, there's so much choreography. Yeah. Like, you don't look the way you think you'll look in when you're fucking. Like you think you're looking good.

Like, you're not looking. And you're like, In your natural state, it's terrible. Right. And you got like a camera coming over here. You got a camera at this angle. And you're like, okay, how do I block this to not look, to look like I'm enjoying it?

Yeah. To not be nervous. So there's like you're thinking of so many things. And sometimes you do have the freedom to just like really be in the moment and just go crazy. But so much of it is there's so much blocking. It's so technical. Yeah. It is really uncomfortable.

And actually the, when my boyfriend and I went on our first date. Yeah. I was so fed up with. I had dated. male actors in the past, they're the fucking most insecure. I guarantee it. Not a blanket statement, but I will say you would think that when you date somebody in the same industry, they would understand.

Yeah. I was in a not a great relationship. And I would like have to go do this shit. And it was like this weird jealousy thing. I'm like, dude, I'm getting a check. Like this is not whatever. One of us needs to be employed. It's like stage fight.

Like someone needs to make money. Yeah. You want to go make money or? Right. Right. You want to go do it, please. So I was so frustrated at this point. And the first thing I, like, belted out to my current boyfriend on our first date was like,

hey, I'm on a show right now. I'm fucking a lot of people. And I'm having threesomes. And he just was like, yeah, it's your job. And he works in the realm of Hollywood just on the other side. And he was like, yeah, I get it. It's like, there's nothing sexy about it at all. Yeah, it's not alluring in any way.

At all. It's awkward as fuck. I really don't look forward to those days. All you can do is like take a shot. Yeah. rip a joint and just have fun. That's it. I just hope a sag wrap doesn't show.

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There's a studio over here. I auditioned for there was a huge show that, sorry, there was a show that was supposed to come out. This was maybe 2016, 27, 17. I go out for the show. I'm aware of like everybody that's going off for the show, people that are working on the show. It's people I knew from Nickelodeon. It's like, I had no reps at the time. I dropped my whole team.

I was, you know, raw dog in this stuff. And I was like, okay, this is a, everything checks out. This is a legit production. Yeah. I get pinned as like top two to play the lead's love interest. Now, I should have fucking known because the writer was also the director was also the lead.

Okay. Some weird dude from Dallas. I was like, I shouldn't know him then. But like actor brain was like, nope, I have to, like this is my rent. Yeah, yeah. Make top two. I'm amped about it.

I go in for a chemistry read. Yeah. With him. With him. Okay. And this guy, there's like, there's no world in which I would play this man's love interest.

Like there's just there's just no it was this wasn't satirical There was just like this dude was like three times my age It wasn't was never gonna happen but again actor brain was like Just do what you gotta do so I show up and one of my Mutuals that had worked on Nickelodeon was kind of like everybody thought this was legit He's like all right we're gonna do a chemistry read I'm like okay I have to kiss this guy I'm like that's a little weird this is not usually how the chemistry reads that's fine And then I booked the part.

And I'm like, oh my God, I'm booked the part. It's going to shoot in Texas. Great. Awesome. Let me know. And then he's like, oh, work, I'm going to take you out and explain. Ends up writing me a check for my time. This was like $250.

But at the time I was like $2,000. Yeah. Writes me a check. Come to find out maybe like two months later backstage puts out a like do not work order with this production. This guy just goes, leave L.A. gone. I end up talking to like four mutual girlfriends, all of which who also booked the lead,

who also had to do this chemistry read, who also got a check for 250 to go up. Oh my God. Yeah. Fucking horrifying. Wild. Right over on this set down. And then they're like, and women have a problem with working with men in this industry? It was, I was like.

And when men, oh my God, when the Me Too movement started and then there was like a couple men who were like, I don't know, just now I'm afraid because what if I'm working Right, right. Shut the fuck up. Dude, there's, and there's, and there's so much of that, too. I know. And as, and like, here's a thing. When you're, you know, it's, it's a weird, you're doe-eyed.

You come usually from somewhere that's not L.A. You come here. You want to make it big. You want to, like, pay your rent. And you kind of think this is just how it goes. Yeah, this is part of the course. Yeah. And it's fucking terrible and manipulative.

Yeah. And exploitive. Like, which is why I think, first of all, I think it was wonderful that your mom was with you when you were a child because it was even crazier back then. And second of all, that's why I think you're like coming out the other side with an even stronger head on your shoulders because you're like, yeah, you're not fooling me. Oh, well, that's what it is too. And like I had a really young mom.

So, you know, my mom had me really young. Even growing up, like I couldn't get away with shit that my friends could get away. Because I'm like, my mom was my age like five years ago. Like she knows I'm lying. I said that about my mom too. My mom was young when she had. I couldn't get. away with fucking shit.

So especially when she was out here, we knew nothing about Hollywood. There was definitely a lot of times where people tried to like cuck us. But I always, I felt like I was always sharp even as a kid. And it's an adult, it's an adult industry. You have to have parents with you. And my mom followed me around. I never took a meeting by myself. I never was on set by myself.

And, you know, unfortunately. She's just so far up your ass. That's how it has to be. 100%. Yeah, need that. You need that. You need that. Need that.

Need my mom. the time I was like getting away crissom myself well also like everybody wanted to hook up with my mom too like we would have like and mom it's really making it weird for me dude it was I'm like dude she's got a husband man like it's my dad but you know like we had

all the Friday Fridays on all that we had like live performances so we had like all of like you know Nick Lachay and Jarl and whoever was hot during the time and like without a fucking doubt they would always hit on my mom and I'm like I'm literally the money's kid in America. And no one gives a fuck because of my mom.

Yeah. My mom's face card is distracting. My genius. Fucking Carmella, man. Thank God for Carmella, though. Love you, Mom. I know. Thank God.

Was there any movies that you were like, oh, I would have loved to be in that? Stick it. So Stick it was out when I was doing all that. And I was wanted to be an Olympian gymnast at the time. I was almost Junior Olympics when I was on all that and I had to let go of. I tried to train in L.A. And it was a bust.

But that casting, yeah, that casting was happening while I was doing all that. I was just way too young. And I remember I found out about like, you've got to get me that audition. And they were like, you're literally like 20 years too young for this movie. I'm like, it's fine. I'll be 20. Oh, they can play young, but I can't play old. Right.

Please. Okay. Make it make sense. That was the one that I was like, damn. But it's crazy. I like, I wasn't an actor by any means because once I was doing that, things started getting really serious. All these big agencies wanted to rep me.

and I was going in for like law and order and pretty heavy roles. Yeah. And I would, I remember and it's, and now I wonder, it made me think a lot about child actors because I did comedy and only comedy. But I would read, I learned a lot about fucked up shit that happens because of reading sides. See. If it was like, like I went in for a daughter that was sexually abused by her father. And I didn't know what that was.

until I read the script. And I remember I read it and I started crying and I was like, I, this is gross. Like I just felt I couldn't distinguish the acting. Yeah, the difference. The real. Yeah. And I never went out for those roles as a kid, but it's very interesting how that, that doesn't have an effect on you as a kid.

Because a lot of kids do have like their first kiss onset or it's a weird. It's hard to kind of tell the difference. So I stick to the fun of the ha-haz. The he-his. The giggly. Yeah, I'm with you on that one. Yeah, I feel that. I even like, I had a Samantha Hanratty on the show a while ago and she was in so many kids shows like on both Disney and Nickelodeon. And she was telling me how crazy it was too. And she was, she told me about like her first time on set of The Sweet Life of Zach and Cody. She was like in a whole series of episodes with them. And I was like, she was explaining it to me. And I was like, as a kid, that would have rocked my world. Oh, yeah. I would have been like, I'm the. coolest person alive. Oh yeah.

Like your mentality about you on all that like I would have felt the same way. I mean I had a mom that I had a mom that kept me grounded like I'd be like I'm the shit she's like you're not sit the fuck down and be okay. And you're like perfect perfect perfect perfect she get me like two I actually remember my first interview was with Variety after they like announced I won all that and then variety's like how does it what are your plans I don't even fucking remember was like me and my mom and they're like what are your plans now that your daughter's like gonna be the biggest child star and my mom said we're gonna keep her grounded and I said in the interview I said I'm grounded

and she was like no we're gonna keep you ground and I was like fuck that I hate this shit I'm going home like what do I just won the funnest kid in America what I do what's your like is your like genre comedy like what do you yeah as of right now yeah I've had a couple that were a little more on the serious side but nothing terribly serious not like house of the dragon serious it was more like it's a little sad yeah like that kind of thing but it's mostly been comedy like and i've done a few voiceover things to like auditions as well for like adult cartoons i've gotten quite a few for kids cartoons for like nickelodeon which i've been like yes but also no because i feel like just my branding and everything around

it doesn't really jive well with kids stuff which i like i would love to i think in theory if i did like a big Pixar film or something like that but they were for like actual kids shows that are like on like bluey yeah okay like during bluey time and I was like I just don't think I don't want people look me up and being like I don't think that's a good idea yeah yeah I don't think you have a really good voice for voiceover and voiceover I will say is like the one of the most fun corners of that's what some of my friends have told me who I've done it oh my god's a blast yeah and there's no ego you go to like I remember there's like a honestly there's a bunch of dads that kind of work all the jobs yeah and you show up and it's just like a dad in sweatpants and

like you show up to work in sweats there's no no ego at all. You get to have like a lot of fun with voiceover. That's too fun. I'm excited about voiceover. I've done a couple auditions for adult cartoons. Those are sick. Which I think is pretty fun. They're like Bob's Burger family guy ask, which I think that's too. Yeah. Oh, you'd be so good at that. Thank you. I think you got a great voice for voiceover too. I actually think now that I'm thinking about it and I'm listening to you talk, I realize that we, I think we both read for the same Marshall's commercial. Did we really? Because they sent me your tape as an example. They were like, That's kind of shade.

To mirror, essentially. Like they were saying, oh, this is what we're looking for. But it was your voice. And I remember hearing. Dude, can you imagine if they were like, we're not going to cast her, but can you just replicate this voice exactly? Yeah, they were like, this one is ass in case you want to know what not to do.

Yeah, don't do anything this bitch did. So I think I was going to say you have a great voice for voiceover too, but I feel like that's why you've done voiceover stuff before. And that's cool to know. It's really fun. It's so fun. I think that's too. It's so fun.

Okay. I have some fun facts about you. Would you like to hear them? I feel like I don't have a choice. Well, the first one is obviously that you won Nickelodeon's funniest kid in America. Yeah. And you placed in the top five, obviously. Also, we have you wanted to be an Olympic gymnast.

What were your specialties? Bars and floor. Yeah. Okay, Ms. Tumblr. I actually lost my virginity of the balance beam. That's a fun fact. I actually don't think I've publicly ever said that. Yeah.

I, uh... Damn. Hyman smashed on that thing? Dude, bad. Shit. I did a backtuck. That sucks. Stradled it. I said, I'm bleeding.

And then I remember my coach was like, internally or externally? I was like, what are those words me? Girl, fuck if I know. Like, there's blood coming out of this area. And then I will never forget one of my other coaches made a joke that at the time went over my head. She was like, well, hope she can reproduce. And then later in life when I was having sex, my cherry never popped.

And I go, hmm, I think that's what happened there. Yeah. I don't know if I can reproduce. I haven't made it to that point in my. life but but but but but but but but but bars and floor okay fucking hated the vaults yeah and you know i i it's a love hate relationship with the beam i'm so jealous i love gymnasts i think you guys are some of the most athletic people in the world it was it like i i will say i think that's where i get all of my i think i'm a very disciplined person and i 100% get that from being a gymnast

because that was like back in the day where there was like no restrictions on like how how how intense a coach could be you know like they used to we used to do like splits and they would put encyclopedias on our feet to train the bone to just bend enough and that was just like normal and I'd go to school and be like what'd you guys do today and they're like we play with rocks and I'm like oh sick I got encyclopedias on my bones like I don't know if they're binding my feet yeah it's fine in my gym is class that's cool yeah okay athlete and I know you box a lot yeah been doing martial arts since

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I've kind of dabbled in all of them and now I just do moitai and boxing. My man boxes. Do you? No, I can't because of the nails. Oh, yeah. It's so hard to do with nails. Yeah, so and I work too much.

So I'm like, well. I'm employed. I have to. If I was like, if I ever do like get rid of the nails for anything, then yeah, I want to try. Yeah. But my man's been boxing, I think now for like twoish, almost.

three years yeah he loves it's the best it's like the best it really is the best i know and he and he like loves anything athletic anyways i feel like you're a pretty athletic person obviously you are because you were a gymnast well i was just saying before i walked in here i like really i'm i'm really trying to like lower my cortisol but like everything that i love spikes my cortisol and boxing is one of them and i'm just like constantly in fight or flight like i just don't know what being need that yeah yeah you need that stimulation i really do i really do that's you get in the zoomies when you go there i'm just constantly in Zoomies. You just got to work it out. Constantly in Zooms. Otherwise, who knows what I'll do?

I can't be calm. It's scary. It's funny. I was on like a phone call the other night and I was like really angry. And my boyfriend was like, were you like popping off? I was like, no worse. I was silent. He's like, oh shit. I don't even know what that's like. I'm like, you don't want to know. It was scary. Yeah, I went to a Rams game the other day. Okay. Um, because they invited me. And I love, I love hanging out with the Rams because they put me on the Jumbotron. And that's really all I need. What are you doing? What's your like Jumbo move. I was getting nervous. Oh, I do. They told me to dance. So I was like any dance and they said, yeah. So I was just kind of switching it up. I was like doing the gritty. Okay. I was hitting them folks. You know, just kind of the duggy. Again, range. This one. Yeah. I don't remember what that one's called. It's a shoeing. Yeah. So I was just kind of doing. All the one's all the ones that little shithead kids do on fortnight. That's what I was kind of doing. Just the renegade. Yeah. Over and over and over again. Yeah. They put me on the Jumbatron so many times that when I left. This was like back in December when I went to a ram's game.

And they put me on the Jumotron like at least 10 times. And I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, well, the odds of like a bunch of my fans being here are probably kind of low. Right. Like I know my audience. Right. Some of them probably know. But then I got endless amounts of tags of people watching me on the Jumbotron.

And even when I left the Rams game, this old man, he was probably like in his 50s. He goes, hey, I know you, which is scary when a straight man says that to me. And then I go, do you? And he goes, you're the girl. from the JumboTron. And then I go, yeah. Right, Papa, I am. And he goes, you're famous.

And then I go, period. And then I got in the car and left. But this most recent time I went to a Rams game, I was sitting next to someone, well, I was sitting in the, in the little box and like there was someone in there who was really, really, really fucking rude. And I think because she, I think she was racist. I'm just going to say it. Was this a creator?

Were you like amongst creators? No, she was a, she's a singer. Got it. Um, but I only know one. of her song so I you know but anyway she was being really really rude and I think it's because she thought I stole her seat I didn't there's no assigned seats anyways that's besides the point you were talking about cortisol being raised right when I was sitting there I'm not even kidding because I have done a lot of work in therapy to not be to not lash out yeah right to not to lash out I'm trying

my best like and so when she was talking a lot of shit and was like trying not to like address me even though I knew she was talking about me I swear to God my aura ring was said that I was stressed for 25 minutes. Like they said my BPM was really high because and it's not because I'm scared or nervous. It's literally because that's how angry I get. You're swallowing your so I have to tell myself you need to calm down. Other people know you in this thing. Like I'm literally telling myself you need to calm down. Like I literally like my like I start sweating. It's UV the or a ring man. Just me and my aura ring right now. And I'm like me me tapping my chest to ground myself. I'm like I need to come. See I can't have one of those. I need to calm down. I can't have one of

those I just I just started therapy by the way dude why and how's it going terrible I literally like session one I or session two maybe I don't fucking know yeah I got so nervous that I was talking about myself too much that like I just like trauma dumped and then I was like so like uh what about you what's new with you this is three hundred dollars an hour bitch you better start speaking I'm like okay good I'm like should you marry like I know no literally same with my therapist I literally, sometimes I try to make her laugh. Yeah, same. Same.

Same. I can't help it. But sometimes when I do get her a little bit, I literally go, got her. And then I like, I like forget what I was saying. Like I was like, oh, fuck, what was I saying? Oh, right. Right. Trauma.

Trauma. Sure. I do that with this lady at the post office. I love my favorite thing, though, is like cracking people that are like just hard nuts to crack. Same. And they're my favorite people. And I just, because I just feel like they're so misunderstood.

And I feel like I want to, I want to. want to understand. Yeah. I have this one lady at the post office. Never smiles. Never, never, never like, and I've been going there for four or five years now. And I think I finally got her to like, she just gave me like a half a, honestly she. Yeah, she might have like kind of had like a mini stroke. I don't, I don't, but I took it as like a laugh and I was like same thing. I was like, got you bitch. Give me that tracking. See you next week. I got your ass. Didn't I. I literally like my therapist the other day. Well, obviously therapy. It's fun, but not. Yeah. Um, she told me. because I was telling her I talk about like being a public person and like struggling with no privacy and shit like that and she told me yeah you know because I told her when I feel upset at having no privacy I feel ungrateful yeah and that makes me feel like I might lose everything because I'm being ungrateful like the universe will punish me kind of thing and she goes yeah those are called double binds like when you feel like damned if you do damned if you don't so the psychological term for it is double binds and I'm like okay and then she goes and actually you know statistically speaking in women when you frequently encounter double binds you you're

enter psychosis pretty quickly in women especially she tells me that I go oh right what am I doing with this information so she goes so like if you feel like you are going like insane like it's probably because you are you are to an extent and I said oh you said she didn't say insane tomorrow from the double session she didn't say insane I said that but I was like okay so if I feel like I'm going crazy it's because I am and she's like respectfully yeah and then she was like okay so same time next week yeah and i'm like dude it's it's sometimes she like sometimes she asks me questions and i'm like regina please like i i didn't come here to like critically think i know you're like literally who side are you on you use some shit and you fix me like

she's asking me like so well would this happen i go i can't i don't i can't do this with you right now i'm honestly going through a lot right now i'm going through a lot you're supposed to make shit better that's your job i'm paying you three hundred dollars for 50 not even an hour 50 minutes get to work Fix me. Please, please, please. No, I can't. I get that, though. And then I, now I start, it's close to my house.

So I, I, I walk now, because I'm like, it might be the only time I get outside. So then I'm, there's this one fucking hill I got to go up before I get to her office. So I'm so winded when I get there. There is nothing more awkward than like trying to like really explain what's going on and trauma while you're winded. You're like, so, yeah. Yesterday, like yesterday, I was, I had. pit stains in my sweatshirt. I was at the edge of my seat. I like was stressed because I was six minutes late. And again, I only got to hurry up and tell you what the fuck's going on. Yeah. I'm winded.

I'm crying. I'm like, this is, it's just, it's too much for me. Here, can you crack a window in here? Yeah. It's a little hot. Can we turn that air on it? I can't really think straight. I get it. I get it. It's bad. I'm working on. I get it. And I get not leaving the house too. Yeah. I'm also actively working on that in therapy. Yeah. I was like, I think I'm going through a gray garden situation right now. I told they're like I'm two steps from moving my mom into this house and letting it go to shit I'm two steps letting binds grow in the windows and shit I'm really close dude that's great I'm I'm I'm one foot in no I'm not even two steps I'm in it I am where I'm also actively working on that too I get that

this job that is one of the bad things about this job is that it well it's the extremes yeah it's like you're either so on and around a million people and schmoozing and traveling constantly yeah like isolated completely alone doing nothing thing there's no middle ground and there's no one to tell you you should go outside like right you're like it's eight o'clock i never left today or changed or showers or brush my yeah if i look at my location it says i've been there for like 87 hours and i'm like why is no one given me a wellness check like i haven't left i haven't left the house in four days yeah literally okay i have some more fun facts about you it says you used to work the front desk at a gym yep

how was that job oh it was hilarious i worked uh was it like franchise gym it was it like franchise gym it was equinox okay t when i moved out here i worked while i was at trying to act i worked like three or four service jobs at the same time i worked at a hostess at the nice guy which that was hilarious i worked for um this crackhead marketer and i worked at equinox which is where i ended up meeting two of my my closest friends but it was hilarious because it's the equinox that's connected to wm e so as a struggling actor that was like a Like Jeff Goldblum would come in and be like, leave his Bentley key. Can I leave this at the front?

And I'd be like, yep. And then like just all of these people that like I just wanted to be there. Yeah. That was like a really hard ego thing for me of like, damn, I am making 9.50 an hour and you're catering to like the elite. Yeah. And then at, um, same thing at nice guy. I mean, nice guy in its prime. That was where, I mean, you know, Drake would come in at two in the morning.

I will never forget Bob Sagget used to come in all the time. And I'd be at the front and he'd always come in and be like, yeah, it's for Bob Sagget. I'm like, yeah, Bob, I know who you are. You don't got to check him with me. Right, right, right, right. We got you. But it was crazy. That job was nuts because I remember like day one, they gave me a Rolodex of thousands of people

that I had to know by face because essentially we only had 19 tables at the nice guy. Yeah. And we would save most of those reservations for friends of the restaurant or A-listers that would come in so I had to know if a random celebrity came up. But it's crazy because a lot of those important people like tech people, they all look the same. They're all just like some variation of like a white dude. Yep.

So I got like week one, I got in so much trouble because someone came up and they were like, hey, can I get a table? And I'm like, no. And they were like, oh, I was like, dude, no. And then my boss was like, that's like the head of some random tech company. I'm like, dude, you lost me. Well, how the fuck was I supposed to know? Like, you said, sorry.

I'm not a virgin. And then I worked both of those jobs. And I said, you know what? Yeah, I still want to be an actor. Believe it or not. Believe it or not. I still want to do this. How was it working in the Equinox?

Equinox actually is what started my love for boxing. All the money that I made at that job, I, there was, his name was Alon. He was the, he used to be a boxing coach for the Italian, Italian boxers. He's from Italy. Oh, cool. And it was expensive to do one-on-one training at Econox. I got like a 15% discount. So my check every week would go to him.

And I would have him do one-on-one sessions. And that's what started my love for martial arts. Yeah. I love that. So honestly, it was good. Like, I really, I'm really happy that I, like, worked as a kid. And then I worked in high school. I worked through college.

Yeah, like, normal people jobs. Yeah. because I'm still friends with a lot of people that have acted all the way through and to no fault of their own. They're just, I'm just appreciative that I understand kind of that world. And it makes me the wins that I would get along the way where like a lot more meaningful. That's too, honestly. I think that a lot about just doing this like I, I have said before because sometimes people ask me questions. I'm like, I mean, like I think sometimes people forget like I was a fully formed adult.

when I started doing this. I went through college. I worked real jobs. I worked shit jobs. I had no fucking money. I don't come from money. So like having all of that experience before I did this, I think was like pivotal. 100% to success and sustaining and all of that.

Like I really do think it worked in my favor. Yeah. That I lived a very normal. Like I've always said like I was aggressively normal before this happened to me. And now I'm not. So there you go. It just makes those moments a lot sweeter. I agree.

You appreciate them a lot more. Totally. And then you also like realize to what is actually hard. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because like 100% because when you have when when people get famous very young like whether it's on in influencer world or acting or whatever. It's very like oh, this is the hardest job in the world.

100% it's for sure fucking. Oh like I've had I can promise you it's not the hardest job in the world. I can promise you that even with the jobs I've had. Oh yeah. Um, but it is have both of. Yeah. Like I've always like described it as like it's it's a job that you could never prepare for the problems that you have with it.

It's a job that it's unique. It's very unique. Every job has its problems. Yeah. And I'm not going to sit here and argue what job has the most difficult problems because I'm not in the place to do that. But what I will say is the jobs that are specific to entertainment are only specific to entertainment.

Exactly. So it's very hard to kind of relate to people that. Or compare. Yeah. So that's why like it's really important to find your community and what you do. Totally. Because yeah, they're just so specific. And it's not a matter of like, my job's harder than yours.

It's just there, like you said, there's no other job that prepares you for the downfall, the downside of what we do. Yeah, especially that's, and that's T too about finding community. Yeah. And that's what you're like, I'm still friends with people from before. Yeah. Which is T because I've told people like make friends. When you start doing this, like don't be an asshole. Like make friends.

Connect with people because no one not only gives a fuck about your problems because the world is hard enough as it. is and and being a dickhead online is not a real problem in the grand scheme but also like they just can't relate like they just they don't understand it they don't under they can't relate to your your grievances like what you're upset about and then you sound like a dick when you complain about it to someone who's like a nurse well you probably also relate to this too because I'm I'm in my 30s yeah we're on the older end of the creator yeah yeah we're a thousand years old so like when I do this stuff I'm like this is my job like I'm not I'm not going on brand trips because I'm like oh it's a free vacation let me like get drunk with my girlfriends. I'm like, this is my fucking job.

I see it the exact same. You know what I mean? So I think that's also hard too is that so many people in this world are younger. And I and I have so many friends that are younger. But sometimes it's like the stakes are a little bit different for me than for you because you're 21. Like you still if this doesn't work out for you, you can go and we're not old. But like this is a job. And we've lived a thousand lives before this. Yeah. And I ain't going back. I'm showing up to I don't know about you girl by. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not going. back to I burned my bridges already yeah right right yeah girl they are burned viking's death i can't go back i burned all the ships we're not yeah no we got to make this work somehow please we got to keep this ship of yeah you know what i mean i agree with you and i and i'm so glad to be i just turned 30 yeah best best years i'm so glad to be in my 30s i was so sick of being 29 yeah because i literally oh what an awkward age right well this feels like i'm holding on to my 20s it does i wish i like skipped from 28 to 30 yeah because 29 i was like i'm 29 i'm 29 Yeah. It's like, well, we'll talk to me next year when you know everything.

I literally have, I, because my birthday's in September, I started telling people I was 30 in January. Yeah, as you should. I was like, oh, I'm 30. Like, I just started saying it because I was like, whatever. I'm there. I can see it. I'm so close. It's right there. It's right there.

No, 30s are the best. Period. I'm excited to keep going through them. Okay, I have a couple more fun facts. Okay. This one says you had to go through extensive rock climbing training for your role in the movie, the sound. So, I, yes. I well I rock climbed

I mean listen we lie all the time on auditions do you how many times like I've gone out for fucking like a baseball movie I'm like I've been doing baseball is my life I've been doing this shit my whole life and then you get off that audition and you go hey I need a favor

six months of training right now let's go little leagues when that audition came about I'm like no I like for real rock climb so you said this place was steps from the water we just haven't found the steps yet How much did we save?

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a couple years ago so I would go there all the time. See. What was crazy about that job is I was supposed to do a lot more climbing for that job. What ended up happening is I had X amount of shoot days in Vegas and the, my second day shooting, we knew that the actor strikes were going to happen. Oh, damn. So they were like, we need to finish every single scene in the film today. Oh, shit.

And because tomorrow you can't work. And I was booked, I had already booked another film. So they were like, we can't even move. Like, even if this ends, we can't even pick up any shots. So it ended up not being that extensive. What was hard is I was possessed in that. I became possessed in that film. And essentially, I had to like scale.

the side of a mountain. And I'm like a dick when it comes, like my dream genre is action comedy. Like I want to be a female Deadpool. That's like my dream role. And I want to do my own stunts. So when I had a call with everybody, they were like, well, we're going to do a stunt person.

I was like, fuck a stunt person. I'm doing every stunt. And my team at the time is like, dude, they don't have the insurance for that. Like you're going to be, I'm like, fuck it. Get the insurance. Whatever the stunt is, I'm doing it.

And harness work. Like even if you're athletic, harness work. I have so much respect for stunt people that do harness work. God, you just have a wedgy for 12 hours. Well, no, you know what it was? I had to, because I was scaling a wall sideways, I got harnessed from my side. So I was in an oblique crunch for like an hour

having to like run on this. And I left with all these bruises and it's funny, one of the girls, there's like a BTS video of one of the girls and she's like, yo, I know Christina isn't so much pain right now, but she's not complaining because she's from Boston. And I was. I was in so much pain. They were like, you got, I'm like, yeah, you're out,

shit's easy. And next time I was like, yo, next time let the stunt people stunt, but yeah. Okay. You want to do action comedy? Like, love action comedy. So like superhero specific or even like, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll go for whatever. I want to play like a, I always say kick ass.

Like I would love to play like a grown kick ass just cutting people up with katanas. Okay. Doing back flips off cars. But then also being funny, you know? We should do like a new Hobbs and show. Oh, love. You're Jason Satham.

I'm the Rock. Obviously, the looks are uncanny. I had a, my original pitch was going to be the Rock and the Pebble. And I was going to be the Pebble. And I would be the Rocks, like, little sidekick. There you go. And we would do adventures. And I'm built like the Rock, so it's same.

Listen, we can, well, we can write something in. We can make it work. We'll have teams talk. We'll have our people talk. Have you seen Hobbs and Shaw? Action comedy. No, but I know it. Yeah.

It'd be great. We need more action comedy than. I love them. Me too. It's funny because Hobbs and Shaw at this point, is like a hallmark of the show. I talk about it so often as if I'm not passionate about it. I guess that you could say I am.

My dream in that kind of vein would be like a buddy comedy, like a cop one, almost like the heat. Yeah, I love the heat. Me too. I would love to do some shit like that. Oh, I love. I fucking,

the heat is incredible. I know and nobody gets that movie like we do. I mean, I was going to say that whole scene when they're in Boston and like the fucking knocks, I quote that scene all. And everyone's like, what do you talk? She's just being Boston. Just let her do whatever she's just do it.

That whole, that whole series, you still in Bibles or something? Yeah. Oh my God. I love that movie. It's so good. Oh my God. Melissa McCarthy.

She's my. Oh, yeah. And also Sandra Bullitt, though. She's a badass. Like, she's like OG action company. Well, then I started getting pissed because I was like, a miscongeniality with you. Dude.

That would kill. Dead. That would. You know what I mean? Like, I just, I, I always say this, my, my pitch always used to be like, oh, can, like, who is. the female actress that's super funny but also can do action yeah and i feel like that's a little area that i can sneak into i think a miscongeniality remake with you dude and i'm just i just want to be

like randomly doing backflips for like like it's a parody of itself like we're just inputing okay benson boone yeah you're gonna be on a benson boon tip it's benzen boon just pops you and benson moon there's a backflip and i'm like yeah everybody's under arrest there's the action comment there's That honestly, that would sell. Yeah. That's hilarious. Okay. Last fun fact.

Your first acting credit was for girl at a party. Oh my God. Cat in the Hat movie. Wait, hold on. I was actually going to bring this up. Okay. I was never in Cat in the Hat. No, you weren't.

Listen to this. T. Okay. Listen to this. When I was a child, when I was on all that, all of a sudden, my IMDB was like, girl at the party at Cat and Hat, fucking love Cat in the Hat.

And then this before AI, I was like, am I A-Ied into this movie? So I remember I went home and me and my mom watched the movie and then we watched the party scene and we would rewind it and rewind it and we're looking around. I'm like, what the fuck? It's like Paris Hilton's in it. To this day, people come up to me and they're like,

I loved you in Cat and the Hat. What do they think you're Dakota Fanning? I don't fucking know. I think they think you're Dakota Fannie. Here's the thing. Like, I'll take the extra IMD credit. You know what I mean? Like, especially when I was trying to act,

I'll be girl at the party. Like, fuck, throw that shit on. my throw that shit on my star meter yes I was her I never was in cat in the hat and to this day people are like great work and cat in the hat girl at a party and I I play it I'm like thanks man like yeah give me the fucking credit I was never in that shit not even a name too girl at the party I'm like maybe they think on Paris Hilton I don't know but I was 10 like that was the only girl at the party was Paris Hilton that movie that movie I would be a great movie I would expect you'd be in that movie that's why I was

like you know what keep it I'm not even gonna refute it I'm DBC because that's a good fucking movie. And it's probably true. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm CGIed into there. I don't fucking know. I don't remember.

Yeah, I wear glasses. I can't. Speaking, I had like a recent idea. I'm like, instead of an obstacle course, we should just do an optical course. Everybody takes off their glasses. Everybody just takes off their glasses and just go. I have terrible vision.

You're in context? Yeah. Like, I have clear context. But like, I truly like, I, what are you working with? I'm, I think I'm a negative like 1.8. in one and then a negative like two. Is it a sigmatism? Yeah.

Okay. I do have one of those. Okay. My vision is so dog shit. Like, and when I was in high school, I used to literally be like, I only need to wear my glasses to drive at night. That's not true. No, it's not. The fact that I was free balling to school.

It's anyone's guess how I got there. But I literally was like, I only need those in night. And I remember like, I wore glasses my whole life. I was actually just like not seeing anything ever. And my mom, like my teacher told my mom, I think she. needs glasses because I was like always like squinting and she asked me what do you do in school when you can't read the board and I said I just asked the person next to me what it says and I've done that my whole life I'm like can you tell me what that says and even when I go to restaurants like

and there's menus up there and I don't have my context in my sister goes this is what the menu says and she like explains it to me but do you like wearing contacts I feel like it's so hard like I feel like my vision's better when I have my glasses I don't mind wearing context because when I went to college I went to school in Hawaii and like wearing my glasses they would fog up I'm a sweaty ass bitch. So I was like, fuck, I got to start wearing my contacts all the time now. Can you get LASIC if you have a insignetism? I think they don't recommend it because it'll come back.

I'm too afraid to do that, to be honest. I'm like, I'll wear contacts and glasses for the rest of my life. I'd rather do that. You wear a daylies or what are you doing with these? I do monthlies. Okay. Yeah. So like, and I do have glasses.

And it's funny because the glasses I have now, well, I had two pairs and I lost my favorite pair. And the only pair I have left, which is I need them, right? Like when I don't want to wear my contacts. They are so ugly and I don't know what. I was thinking when I was in the glasses store. I don't know if something came over me and I was like, let me try a new style. I'm a dumbass, but they literally look identical to the glasses that the babysitter in the cat

in the hat live action movie wears. Are those the big circle ones? Yeah, the big giant square Coke bottle looking ones. I don't know, kind of iconic. They look identical to the babysitter from the cat in the hat, which is full circle for us. You want my credit? Let's put you in the fucking. I'm the babysitter.

I'm the babysitter. I'm the old woman babysitter and you're a girl at the party. Yeah. Yeah. It's perfect. Check it out to me. Sounds like a great Hollywood flick. Well, to close us out, do you have any advice for any aspiring actors and or creators who maybe want to try acting but might be a little nervous about it for what I think are obvious reasons?

I mean, listen, I really have hated my whole life when people say like stay authentic because I'm like, what does that mean? Like how can I be anything else other than myself? Right. But I think it's very easy when you are an artist to let your ego get involved and to let the rejection change how you make art or why you make art or what kind of art you make. And the second you start making art for other people other than yourself, your job is not going to be sustainable. And I think understanding and accepting that no and rejection. and people challenging what you do is meaning that you're on the right path. And if you can just find ways to remind yourself why you love doing what you do

and only create for yourself, that's the only way to have longevity and to not fall out of love with the thing that you do. And the reality is, is you only need one fucking person to like you. You only need one yes. You don't need everybody to like you. You don't need everybody to understand you. You just need one person to believe in you. and put your energy into those people

that don't make you feel like you have to change who you are to do what you do. That's so true. Yeah, put that shit. It's very like Lady Gaga, 99 people cannot believe in you. Her same. I'll tell you what, though. She commits to that bit, man.

It's fucking, it's true, though. It's true. And I've said even doing this, like, the other things I've branched off and done outside of social, sometimes my team will be like, well, you know, sometimes it doesn't really work that way. Sometimes we don't. And I'm like, that's okay.

Let's just try it. Because I believe in me. That's what I was like, I just need 15 minutes of their time. I promise you they're going to want to work with me. 100%. I'm always like, you got to meet me in person. Yeah. You need to experience my aura in person.

And you really have to like, what I really regret, I try not to regret anything, but I've recently talked about this on social. What I really regret about the time that I just committed to being an actor, I really regret that I didn't take the nose as a sign that it was just a redirection and I was I always let my ego get involved and every no like made me feel like I'm not good enough how can I turn your no to a yes when in reality I'm not supposed to be over there good rid into that I'm supposed to be over here and I'm wasting so much time and the second I started being like okay if it's not meant for me fuck it I'm going to go over here that's when like so much stuff

opened so don't be afraid of the nose it's like part of where you're going yeah it's like what's meant for me will be for me 100% and follow your fucking God, if something feels weird, it's weird. That's so true. And I've said before, sometimes when people are like, oh, how did you know, like when you, you know, made it, like, got signed, that kind of thing. Like, what changed? And I was like, honestly, nothing changed.

Nobody wanted to touch me forever because of how controversial I was and contentious I was. And then I got too big to ignore. I said, that's how I did it. I said, make your own path. Like, that's really, you get to a point where like, you can either get on this shit or you can watch me sail into the sunset. And look at you, girl. You took that shit. You're like, fuck this. I'm going to do it myself. Oh, and it's so empowering. It's so empowering. It's so empowering to say no.

See, well, I'm so happy. Thanks for having me, Drew. This is a blast. It was. Look at us. We came about everything. Saty here. Now we decided we're going to do buddy comedy together. Yeah. No, we're pitching it. The Rock and Jason Statham. Yeah. That could be us. Catch us in the theater near you. Yeah. Or you and Miss Congeniality. I honestly think that would kill. I'm a volley for that for you. Tell your people to make a call. I think you would be bad. All right, done. Sandra, hit me up. It'll be a body double. Let's go.

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