The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - FULL BEAT FANTASY *EXCLUSIVE* | Drew Afualo ft. Jackie Aina | THE COMMENT SECTION EP 28

Episode Date: August 24, 2022

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People ask me all the time, like, how come it doesn't bother you? Like, when, you know, men call me fat and ugly. And I'm like, well, because they're ugly. A lot of them are not. 100% of the time, they're ugly. Like, get back to that bell tower, babe. Like, the bells need you. The pigeons are looking for you.

You know what I mean? Hey, y'all, and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show, starring me, your favorite, the one and only. You already know, I'm boring. Anyways, today our guest is one that I'm so incredibly honored and excited to have. one of the OG beauty YouTubers of all time, Miss Jackie Ina. Hey. Woo!

I'm so excited. Me too. I'm so happy to have you. I am too. I'm so happy to be here. When Miss Jackie Ina followed me on Twitter, I was like, ah, tea. Immediately I was like, I'm so excited.

I have to ask you to be on my show. I'm so happy to be here. I just like following people who just like tell it like, like, 50-50 if my zipper's up or down anymore. Take my pants off at home. They come off easy. I'm like, I don't have. I was four hours I was walking around like Netflix is a joke presents Nate Bargatsy big dumb eyes world

tour a special live taping at Into a Dome I think it's because I'm peeing so much longer I watch young people come and go I'm like tell my family I'm okay Nate Bar Gatsy May 9th and 10 live at Into a dome get tickets at Netflix is a joke fest dot com it is like yeah you know that's on brand for me yeah absolutely I've been following Jackie forever I told Jackie when we hung out like a while ago but I was telling her the first video I ever saw of you was the fenty beauty lipstick when they first came out with all the colors that was a fun and you were changing hair and outfits to match each vibe of each lipstick just being extra as I normally do my sister sent it to me she's like you have to watch this she's so funny because my sister had been following you for a while

I love it and then I watch and I also forgot to tell you this but your two-faced beauty collab when you added the extra shades. One of them is my perfect shade. Which one? Swear to God, warm sand. Ooh. My perfect shade. I've never had a shade that fit me between like my summer color and my winter color.

Yeah. That one does. So warm, warm sand was actually. It was either the one after that or the one before. The ones that you added, it was like the first one in your new colors. Yeah. Because I was about to say warm sand was already permanent. It was, it starts with the P.

I forget the name. But I know which one you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. It's not pistachio. it's something else. I forget. I watched your video and I was like, I'm going to go try it. It's a good one. It's such a perfect. It has like the perfect undertones. You also tell me about undertones. Really? Yeah, like blue and red. I used to watch, I used to watch you do it. And I was like,

blue and red. Like I used to be like, how do you see that? I used to like literally think. Look at me using my brain. Watching YouTube using learning. I know it's so makeup is so complicated. But like I had to kind of learn the hard way. So that's why I've just like, I just figure it out. You know, I feel like it's like the typical story most dark-skinned black women. You just, I'll find it. I'll figure it out. You figured out myself. Yeah, I'll figure out myself.

I never went to makeup school. I just learned. That's crazy. So you just got into beauty and that's just kind of how it started. Well, like, do my mom. I feel like that's most of us as like young women. Like we see our mom putting on makeup and you're like googly-eyed and you're like, I want to be able to do that someday.

Yeah. And then as I became like a young adult and adolescent. Yeah. Like late high school, early college. days was when I was like knee deep in makeup. I was like obsessed. And then YouTube tutorials started becoming a thing. Yeah.

I graduated high school 2005. And then YouTube started, I think, the year after. And then I started my channel four years later. So that was when I was. In the trenches. I was a trenching. Ground floor, babe. Ground floor.

It was like the wild wild west back then. You could post whatever. I know. You weren't going to get demonetized. You could say, which was a bad thing. Yeah, it was a bad thing. But it was cool. It was like you really built a community.

It was really dope. Yeah, I saw an article recently that talked about how beauty YouTubers completely shifted the game when it came to marketing and also the selling of beauty products because they made it accessible for everybody. Absolutely. Whereas before. I saw your video about it too. I was just talking about this on TikTok because there's a lot of like negativity surrounding being an influencer. And I have to be like, now look, what y'all not going to do? Y'all going to put some respect on our names because.

Because those of y'all that are not old enough to remember the landscape of makeup back then, it was so gatecapped. It was so secretive. And even like as a makeup artist, like, if you wanted to get into the industry and you're like, hey, like, I'm going to be a makeup artist. Like, what do I do? And if you ask somebody that had been in the industry, nine times out of ten, they would not tell you. They would not help you. Yeah. Like, unless they had something to gain, they would not tell you, they would not help you.

Yes. And makeup was just very like secretive. Close doors. Very close doors. And so people started being like, well, you know, I'm a, I'm a person. professional. I'm going to hop on here and share what I know. Yeah. And it was so unlike anything that the makeup industry had ever seen. Yeah. Absolutely. But I think it was like, whoa, we didn't expect this. I know. I was like, I was honestly fascinated by it because it completely changed the game too as far as

beauty standards went. Definitely. As well because it made it accessible to everyone. So then it truly is an art makeup. So people started doing the craziest things just because they thought it was cool. They thought it made them feel good, women especially, right? Yeah. And it just kind of opened these doors for women to, like, have access to like full beat fantasies. Yes. Which is just like, I mean, you're extra like me. I'm not a Leo, but you're a Leo.

I'm extra. That's my little name. So I embrace it. Yeah. Same. I love a full beat fantasy. Me too. That's why I think all the time I'm like, it takes so much effort, money and dedication

to like beat a face. Yeah. properly. Yeah. So when terrible men are like, well, you're just doing that for attention. Like men don't like things like that. Stop for you, man. Okay.

But let's use our noggin. Let's put two together. Men have been saying what they don't like for years. And we're still doing it. So doesn't that tell, hmm, maybe we're not doing it for you. Yeah. What's not clicking, babe? What's not clicking, Steven?

I know when they say that about, they say that about lashes a lot. That's like a big one when they're like, Nobody, no man likes big lashes. No man. And don't wear them. But you and I both have a man. So I beg to differ, babe. Exactly.

I bet you your man is wearing a lashes actually right now. Yeah, literally. I think that about, especially about lashes too, because I'm an extra girl too. Yeah. I love a beat face. I love big, fluffy lash. Me too. Because it just, what's the point.

The eyes are so alluring. That's what I'm saying. I love a good flutter. Especially since you and I both have darker eyes. Yeah. I feel like it's so. sexy. That's what I'm saying. It's so hot. Put some respect on brown eyes, too.

Exactly. People love acting like brown eyes are at the bottom. No. They're elites. Incorrect. Maybe you need a big fluffy lash. Yeah. Maybe that's why you feel that way. You need some eye drops. We worry about them cataracts. That's what you do it about. No, seriously. We're about that astigmatism, ma'am. I have one too, so it's all right. I can say that. Period. Self-track. Okay, so that's perfect. It's a perfect transition into our topic today because we're talking about full beat fantasies. Okay. But most especially about how men react,

to them, especially on TikTok. They love to drag. They're still doing that for real? Oh, yes. I see it all the time, unfortunately. I just talked about it, too, the other day, because this one dude was saying, like, no men likes, you know, big, fake lashes.

I think lips and, like, long nails was the other one. And I was like, at me next time. Yeah. Like, except the lips, but at me next time. Yeah. I was like, you could have just typed my handle. That would have been a lot faster. Track me next time.

But I also was saying, too, that I don't know why men care so much. like, what do you care unless you want to do it? Yeah. And you're upset because you feel like you can't for whatever reason. Teach you. Yeah. Watch Jackie's tutorial. She's got plenty of them.

I got some for everybody. I don't discriminate. No, truly. That's why. And I think too, it's like, I mean, it's obviously a projection. But sometimes I think it's like a negging thing. Like they just constantly want to make you feel like you're doing too much for them. So you have to like shrink down immediately.

I just kind of feel like that's like insulting. Like what makes you think that our. world revolves around like appeasing a guy. Put it on my fucking grave. Honestly, I've said it. I've said it countless times. Like, you really think you're a lot more important than you think. I think they do.

I think you're overestimating. Yeah, I think you're like overestimating how important you actually are. I, and I, I, average person. And I also, I've said this too about like a full beat. So the fact that some of them feel so boldly that they can tell the difference between a full beat and like natural beat. You know what I'm saying?

No, this is actually my favorite topic. No makeup makeup. It's actually my favorite topic because I feel like I'm queen of looking like I don't really have that much on. Yeah. Because you know what it is? I think it's like how you apply it. Yeah.

And so like even though I wear a lot of makeup, I don't wear makeup that's as transformative as some people. So like I still look like me when I take it off, but it don't get it twisted. Like it's like four layers of concealer. Yeah. I'm powdered zion. Like it's a lot. So it's like when someone's like, oh yeah, but when they say,

like, you know, minimal, like, oh, you don't wear that much. And I'm like, okay. Wait until I show you this makeup white. Yeah, no, every time, every time they say that and you're like, well, give me an idea of what you think is a natural beat. They'll look up a picture of like Kim Kardashian on the beach. I'm all, you have no idea how much makeup she has on her face. You have, she literally said before she sleeps like this, opens her eyes, she's being beat. Make it by Mario's in her ring.

You know what I'm saying? Like, literally, he's bedside beating her face. Face. Shout out to makeup on Rario. Love your makeup by the way. I love him. It's really good. I'm wearing it right now.

His bomb. Yeah. That concert bomb? I know. His, his eyeshadow palette. So pretty. And his eyeshadow palette. Yeah, I think it's just a common misconception.

Like, I was like, you're giving yourself way too much credit. Way too much credit. You couldn't pick out of a lineup who has the most makeup on. And if you didn't watch the process, you would have no idea. No, exactly. Yeah. Now, I would probably know. Yeah.

Like, there's certain things that I would look for. But, like, the average person who does not. wear makeup themselves or engage in makeup whatsoever. Because it's not just men and women. Like, it's not just women. It's like, that's why I say person. Yeah. But if you don't interact or engage and know that lingo and know that language,

and like, you're not going to know what to look for. So just shut up. Stop hating for the club. So maybe you're not the person to ask. Yeah. Like, do you like a girl with a lot of makeup? No. And then they'll see you.

And they'll be like, yeah, see like natural lashes. Just a cute little like blush on the cheeks. That's it. You know that the chapstick. No, just the basics. I just wake up and put chapsic on. Okay, girl. I can't relate.

Okay, now. I know. I think that every time I watch those Vogue videos when they're always models. Girl, I know you lying. Yeah, that's why they're like, I just put like these three products and I just use my fingers. Well, you know what, though? I will, to be fair. I can't relate.

A lot of the people who like model and stuff like that are like in the industry, they're so used to be in someone's chair that when they're off work, they probably really don't care. And you know what? That's great. But fingers, I can't do it. I can't do it. Quit lying. It's a lot.

It's a lot. Also, one day I want to see my, I saw Jackie as it. It's nice to see yourself represented using only, only brushes. Using only brushes, bitch, come on. I can't do bare hands. I can't. I can only do bare hands when it's like a no makeup, like literally five-minute face. Yeah.

But not for a full face. Yeah, not for a full face. It's hard. But some people swear by that, though. I know. They really like that method. That would be nice. If I ripped all these nails off, I could do anything.

Including put my makeup on with just my two index fingers, my two pinkies. I wish, I wish. So now that we know what our topic is, we're going to get into our videos for today. So what we do here in the comment section is we bring videos that I've been tagged in that apply to our topic. And then we kind of like go through the comments and kind of rip it up, laugh, giggle, share all the fun. You know what I mean. So this first video is basically, I just give summaries of them. It's just a woman with acne who's recording herself putting on a full beat, like full face makeup, obviously.

And I'm sure it's like transformative in some way like you brought up. So of course, the comments are less than favorable from men. So this one says, so does all that not feel like face paint? Like can't you feel it all day? Also, don't you think how your face at the start was is because of all of the layers of makeup? Which turns out you don't know anything about skin care. So like actually no. Yeah.

What we're not going to do is talk to a terrible straight man about skincare. Well, first of all, people with the- That as well. Like, yeah. You're probably still using bar so behind your ears. So shut up, please. But like, why is there still the misconception? Like, there's the correlation between like makeup and breakouts.

Yeah. First of all, can be a thing, but if it's an allergy, that's the first thing. But that's not like. Acne. That's not most people. Yeah. Like, that's just not most people. Yeah.

But also, like, people with acne, like myself, I have acne prone skin. Same. Like, we know we have acne. commenting about it just letting us know it's like way to point out the obvious bro they're like yeah you know what's crazy

is I also own a mirror yeah do you in fact I had a look at one to film this yeah it's not crazy I had to look at myself in the phone screen while I was doing this like oh my god

I have acne it's like maybe like I'm black I never would have thought you guys you're like what how did you know that how did you know we told you that years I've been betrayed

no I I genuinely think all the time I'm like well the acne thing too because I always think that doesn't always correlate like you said no it doesn't even. Not everyone's skin type is the same sometimes it doesn't matter how little makeup you wear that's so true you'll still have acne there are plenty of people who don't wear it because they think it will make it worse and they still have acne it's a lot of times if you have that it could be internal so that's another reason why like you said allergy or something something's

off that's what does that have to do with like well all of a sudden you're a dermatologist right because you looked at someone you're like you're like you're like you're You have acne, so. Yeah. It's like two equals five. Like it doesn't work that way. It's just like when people post things of their dogs and everyone turns into a veterinarian all of a sudden.

You know what? Well, actually you shouldn't do that because, you know what I mean? People do that with dogs and kids and I'm sorry, I don't think I could ever be that influencer that post that much of my life because I'll be so scared. I'd be reading the comments like, I don't have a dog, but is this true? Like, should I be concerned? Like, I'm confused. Sometimes I read them and they gaslight me and I'm like, oh my God, they're right.

And then some people are like, that's not true. Like, I'm a, I'm, as a licensed vet technician, that's what people always say. As an actual dog, I'll tell you right now. That's not true. As a dog, I'm a Doberman and that's never happened to me. So, like, you need to delete this video. Literally, as a Boston Terrier myself, I can speak confidently for them. That's not the case.

I know. I think that all the time. Why are people like that? Just offering unsolicited advice when you didn't ask. If you ask, that's one thing. Honestly, if your skin is not, back to the acne, but like, if your skin is not, like, remotely perfect, you will. You will get unsolicited advice that you've never asked for.

And the worst ones are the people, the worst ones are the people, because I have a lot of followers. I have the perfect cleanser for you. Like, I would love to give you a discount code. It'll clear up all that acne. Just DM me. Wonderful sales pitch. Actually, go to hell. They're like, girl, you look like shit.

Would you like to market my product for me? Is that cool? Is that cool? it's so rude it's so backhanded yeah it's so backhanded I had to tell people like look I know y'all mean well but like can you just like not do me favor and don't like do me a favor and don't like it's so it's so unnecessary yeah it's like write it out and then throw it in the trash instead of sending it to me acne's not a death sentence it's really not it's not the end of the world like people skin has ebbs and flows like sometimes you're going to be hormonal yeah sometimes you're going through stress yeah you could have reacted to something you could have had an allergy oh yeah like just because someone is presenting themselves with it. What's also ironic is like because I have acne prone skin, it means my skin is prone to acne, which means sometimes my skin's going to be literally perfect.

Yeah. And then sometimes I'm just going to have acne just because. Same. Just because. And so someone will give me like advice or tips. And I'm like, girl, by the time I upload this video, it's going to be gone. Like, just what is the point? Like, I promise you, I don't need help.

I spend a lot of money at an anesthetian. Yeah. I know my skin. Like, I know exactly what to do and what not to do. Yeah. And when it comes, you just deal with it. And when it's gone, it's gone. You're like, at my big age, I know.

At my big age. Just turn 35, baby. No age shaming, but you are 17, please. Like, I don't need help. I'm so sorry. Like, I don't. You are, like, half my age. Like, I know you mean well, but, like, for real, like, I got this.

Well, and it's also like, what are the odds you know and I know? What are the odds? You know what I mean? It's my skin. You can't even vote in a federal election. What are the odds you know and I don't? Baby, you can't even drink. You just started driving.

You're trying to give me a prescription for Accutain. You can't even vote. You can't even get your own cars right yet. That's the thing about acutane too. Like that's last case scenario. That's really extreme. They put you through all the trials before you get there. Like, so don't worry about it.

Like, believe it or not, we know. Exactly. Especially as influencers, we know what we look like. We're well aware. Exactly. We know exactly what we look like. For me too, I didn't really, I had like very normal acne as like a child. Wasn't anything crazy.

When I got into my 20s, that's when I started getting like actual acne. Adult. Adult. Adult acne. Which is more stressful for a lot of people because you think you're safe? Yeah, because you're past puberty. Yeah, babe. I was like, I hit puberty when I was 11.

So I thought this was supposed to be dead and gone, but apparently not. But then I figured out too that it was because what I, well, first of all, my skin care routine was less than favorable when I was like in college because I was broke. So I was a broke college student, obviously. Yeah. I was using like dollar makeup wipes. So bad. Don't do that.

But I don't even know what they put on those things because they were a dollar. But then with that, I was wearing a lot of makeup because of my acne. Trying to cover it. Yeah. So it was kind of like feeding into it. But I thought I had only oily skin. Turns out I'm combo. Combination.

Yeah, more so on the drier side. Yeah. They lean more towards dry. So once I started doing like treating my skin for dry skin, changed the game. Wow. Change for me. I also found out I'm allergic to really low quality red meat. Every time I ate red meat.

That's so specific. I would break out in hives. Like, I thought that it was acne. Because I ate it and then the next day I woke up and my entire like neck and chin and everything hives. Oh, yeah. But I thought it was acne at first. So I was kind of treating it like acne. But then I found out no, no, no, no.

It's an allergen. So now I don't eat that anymore and it cleared it up even more. Wow. Because I went through a real weird phase where I was eating steak a lot. That's strange. Strange thing to do. I don't know why. Pee's up.

Okay. No, that's why it was bad quality steaks. That's what was lighting my skin on fire. Was it giving sizzlers? Yeah, it was giving Applebee's, you know what I mean? It was giving TGI Fridays. Okay, we've since stepped it up. Yeah.

I stopped eating it. That's why I stopped eating the shit. And that's like all to say, too, that it's all, it's very normal. It's so normal. It's so normal. It's so normal. And if you get really good at makeup and you want to wear it to cover your acne, who cares? And that's fine.

Just make sure you wash your skin properly. Yeah. And it costs. That's what's going to help. And if you're a commenter like this, dude, It costs zero dollars to mind your business. You know what I mean? Maybe submit a job application instead of running that comment.

Right. Okay, so this next comment says, similar to my bathroom, I've just plastered, I'm assuming because she had a lot of foundation, like a really extensive base routine. Imagine being married for 30 years, but one day your alarm wakes you up two hours before it's meant to, and then I assume you wake up and see them without makeup. You think you get married for 30 years and never see something about makeup? Good one, bro. You think, that's what you look like.

Yeah. After 30 years, what are you married to Hannah Montana? Yeah, and if that's a game, that's a you problem. That's no bad. Would you have bad eyes? Yeah. Just a terrible vision. You probably should have fixed that a long time ago.

That's why I'm like, imagine being married for 30. Well, you won't have to imagine that because you probably won't be married. I don't think anyone. It's interesting. I think you're going to die alone. Actually. I don't think that's a not a you problem. You don't need to worry about that.

Yeah. And I think too when you're in a relationship, you see, you literally do the, you see your partner in the most vulnerable positions. 100%. Yeah. Skin's the least your worries at that point. Exactly. Like the things you see your partner do and like look like. Fart.

Just like blow up a bathroom with the door wide open. Trust me. Leave the fan on for 12 hours. Why do men do that? They turn that fan after they drop an A bomb in there and then they just leave. Forget it exists. For the next two days, you hear that humming. Just the fan.

And I go, is the fan still on? Yeah. He's like, oh, yeah, I forgot to turn it up. He never could. Yeah, literally, dude. Also, that's the least. Skin is not even. You got bigger fished around.

Yeah. When I first met my boyfriend, he has perfect skin. Disrespectful to me, I find personally. but he was literally putting like nivia lotion on his face on his face body lotion yeah he was just going like this you know that guy shit when they rush you know when they wash their face like their life depends on it like they're rubbing off the joker makeup that's how my fiancee puts on lotion like you know like when i put on cream and stuff i like to like really massage it in Dennis will do this and I'm like someone's after him he has to get out of the

the house immediately. Are the cops coming? Do you mean to help your back? But they do, yeah, they do the same thing with the face. Yeah, just so rough. Well, not anymore. Dennis is a little bougier. He doesn't do it anymore.

He uses my skincare and stuff all the time now, like my moisturizers, my oils. I found out my oil was like depleted. It was like this big. Oh my God. You know when you use face oil, you do like one, two. Yeah. If that directly on the face. Gentle amounts.

I have no idea what he was doing. but it seems like he was just going like this and then going oiling it up, lathering up the hands. Like he was giving someone a massage. Oh my God. Just putting it on his face. No, because men love getting real creative with other people's skincare products. I know.

I know. Yeah. Because I found out Dennis was using my cellar cleansing water as a hand wash. Just because. When I tell you, I almost. I literally. I walked in on him and I was like, what are you doing? See, that's what happens when he's unsupervised.

Exactly. You see what happens when I leave you alone for five minutes. No, and this is like the one that I can never find. Yeah. Like, what are you doing? Yeah. It's like, oh, you know, like, I just wanted to like cleanse my hands. I'm like, I'm like, this is his cleanser on it.

Is that why? Yeah. He thought it was like the equivalent of hand sanitizer. With no sting or anything? Like, there's no, there's no alcohol in it. The sink was right there. I'm like, but the sink is, the soap is. He's like, no, I need the good stuff.

Yeah. The top shelf. I was so, I was so mad. That's not even the work. That's not even the worst he's done. It's bad. That's so funny. I was like, when I first started seeing my boyfriend and I would go stay at his house, I would,

I had like my own skincare stuff there. Yeah. I saw do skincare there. And like, some of my shit started getting depleted. And I asked him, I was like, are you using my stuff? And he's like, because I'm like, I'm not mad. I just like, don't lie to me. Who's touching myself?

Yeah. And he was like, no, I haven't been using it, I swear. And then I found that his brother was literally like a department store sampling all my shit. Every single one. Just every, every oil, every lotion. And not even knowing what the hell to do with it. I know. I was like, I don't know where he's putting that stuff. And you probably double dipping.

That's what I was like. And I said too, I was like, I don't care. Just let, I need to know where it's going. Before I put that back on my face, you can have that. Yeah, I'll buy a new one. Yeah. But I was so like, what? And I, and he said, I told him, can you tell him?

Because like, I didn't have that relationship with him just. It was too soon. It was too soon. It was too early. You know what I mean? we were like eight months in and I was like please stop that was not too soon for my boyfriend

it's not too soon for his brother I was just like and I said hey can you do me a favor can you tell him like I'll buy him his own yeah because the way they use it they just like scoop it out with four fingers slap it on there I guess he was a spatula down and then I he literally just went in there and he was like hey stop touching the stuff in the bathroom

Like real guy shit. Just like yelled at him. And he was like, my bad, I won't. And then just never touched it again. I was like, it's okay. I'll help with the skincare. You want a routine? I'll put you on.

I got you. Yeah, my sister built a routine for me too when I was first starting. Oh, that's cute. It helps. It helps a lot to have someone. That's right. Or you could just follow influencers like us, talk about skincare and stuff, especially Jackie. We're here to help.

Yeah. I'm bad. This last comment says, imagine attaching a whole new face each day and it takes three hours. would give up. Well, that's because a bad bitch life is not for everyone. There's that. Imagine not having that privilege, actually. Yeah. Imagine having to just, like, be

ugly permanently. I literally can't relate. I don't know what that feels like. At least I get to wear somewhat of a mask. Are you mad? Just making peace with being ugly. I mean, whatever. I loki kind of feel like some people make those comments because of that. Like, they feel like they aren't justified. And you can. Like, literally makeup is for everybody. Yeah.

But I feel like they feel like because they have to be ugly full time, the rest of us have to suffer. They're like, why do you get to change? Why do you get to change? Why do you get an easy out? I'm so sorry. Like, I chose this lifestyle. It was bestowed upon me. And you can join the, I mean, a little BB cream never heard.

It doesn't make you less of a man. Yeah, no, literally. I've seen actually an influencer, a dude who I think he may model, but I'm not sure. But he was talking about how he has a makeup routine. And he's like, this is just something I did. He probably has to. Yeah. And he was like, I do this for work, but sometimes I just do it because it makes me feel more

confident. Yeah. And I was like, that's cool. They call it like male grooming. Like whenever I would do like male clients, they would call it like male grooming. And it's very simple. Yeah. Because it's not really the, because it's like, it's not a full beat.

Yeah. It's not really a full beat. And honestly, like I've never had any guy be like, whoa, what did it? It's like they, they're professionals. That's their job. Yeah. They get it. If you want to still enjoy, why not?

Yeah. Literally. I honestly would not see less of someone for participating. Same. And I think it's too, that's why it's all specific to the person. Exactly. Whatever you want to do, whatever makes you feel beautiful, makes you feel confident. Exactly.

It's all that matters at the end of the day. Once again, minding our own business. Yeah. That's why our skin is clear. Period. That's exactly what clears up my skin. Drink my water, mind my business. There you go.

And if somebody asks me for advice, I will give it. Yeah. But I don't go on people's pages. just wow must suck to wear 10 layers of makeup with all that acne like why would I do that I don't understand why people are like that me either it's just again unemployed well for what I assume not only that but I'm a big fan of like the phrase consider the source yeah so like anytime someone talks about the way I look I go on their page and I'm like okay understandable like got it I do that all the time never been called ugly unattractive anything by anybody that looked better than me

me. That's what I'm saying. Because I look at their page and I'm like, oh. Yeah. All right. I'd be mad too. It's like if it's like if we're both short and you're making fun of my head, but it's like, but you're short too. Yeah. So considering the source of where it comes from, it's not as offensive. Yeah, I literally, I talked about that with Cammy Crawford. Yeah. I literally told her I was like, because people ask me all the time like, how come it doesn't bother you? Like when, you know, men call me fan ugly. And I'm like, well, because they're ugly. A lot of them are not. One of them. 100% of the time they're ugly. Like, get back to that bell tower, babe.

Like, the bells need you. The pigeons are looking for you. You know what I mean? Like, worry about you, babe. That's what I'm like, I mean, I encourage. Oh my God. No, truly. Literally, like, I just feel like, well, if you,

maybe if you had something going for you, you'd be capitalizing off that talent and not doing this. Yeah. I said, hot people don't spend their time going around and telling people unprovoked how not good looking they are. And not even like societal, like, society. societal standards. No.

People were just confident in themselves and are happy with themselves are not online doing that at all. Yeah, literally. I've told people before, I'm like, send me a picture of you because it's always from a burner. Period. Always a burner. And I said, yeah, send me a picture of you and I'm going to family feud style

pull people on the sidewalk and say which one of these people is better looking. Yeah, exactly. Picture of me and your best picture. I'll even let you use a filter. Go ahead. Right? Let's see. And I'll do no makeup.

I'm going to ask a stranger. who's better looking? Who do you think they're going to say? Mm-hmm. There you go. So I said, you know what? Take it up with God. You fight in your genetics.

You don't need to fight me. Exactly. That's not on me, babe. It is not my fault. Neanderthal showed up on your DNA chest. That is not my fault. On your 23 and me, you're mad at me. Be mad at them.

Be mad at the ancestors. Because I ain't got nothing to do with that. Yeah. And it's probably when they came over here on the Mayflower. That's probably when it really got dicey. You know what I mean? In your lineage? That's on you.

I'm sorry to hear it. I really am. That's unfortunate for you. I always, that's why I said, because they're ugly. That's why it doesn't bother. You know what ugly is not just on the outside.

Like you can just have like an ugly spirit, an ugly personality. Absolutely. And it's, I feel like it shows. Yeah, I feel like it shows. And that's why like,

you know how sometimes in dating, like you might start talking to somebody that maybe is not your type physically. Yeah. But you get to know them and you find them like, I feel like there's like a science behind that because it's like, it's the whole package. It's like who they are as a person,

how they treat people, how they treat people that don't just benefit them. Like when you are a good, like beautiful is not just about outward appearance. And I know that sounds so cliche. It's true though. But it's how you treat people. It's how you handle yourself, how you care yourself. And so work on that. Well, a perfect example is like I always I always mess with Jimbrose, like, who are attractive

in a societal sense, right? I don't know. What society? Like beauty standard wise, whatever that may be, like 2% body fat. still single and miserable. Why is that? And then I said, at what point do you look in the mirror and be like, maybe it's me? You know what I mean? Like, at what point do you take accountability? Because the outside is not enough either. It's never going to be enough and looks fade. Beauty is subjective, looks fade. So with time. When the roid rage wears off. Yeah. What you're going to do? That's what I'm

saying. That's why I said. I literally told this one, this one guy was like making fun of fat people. He was making fun of people who suffer for mental illness. He was running a gamut. I said, oh, oh for five, five. Was he a gym bro? Yeah, big time. So it's funny, like, me and my, okay, so I didn't

know that, like, when people compete professionally and, like, gym, whatever they, I don't know. Like, if they're bodybuilders or whatever, yeah. So I didn't know that they do, like, a lot of starving. Like, I didn't know that. Oh, yeah, they have eating disorders. I didn't know it was, like, super unhealthy. Oh, yeah. So, because, like, my friend, I was, I was like not because I didn't know and I was taking my friend like, hey, how come you've never like competed like in something like that?

And they were telling me that's like really unhealthy, scary. Like they pretty much starved themselves and I was like, oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, but they only ever want to talk about fat people. That's my point. Yeah. That's my point because I was literally like process. So I'm like, so wait a minute. So wait a minute, wait a minute.

All this stuff like I feel like every time I see a person who doesn't fit the societal size of being fat or overweight. Yeah. The comments are like riddled with people just. going in on their health. I'm like, considering how many bodybuilders there are on like Instagram and TikTok, why don't I ever see their comment sections

looking like that? If it's that normal and if it's that like accepted. So, so concerned about health, only one kind of person's health. It should go both ways. Absolutely. And also, I think it was also like, to my point, the fact that I didn't know that bodybuilders were that unhealthy,

it's, I think it says a lot about the fact that it's a huge part of it. It's a huge part of the problem, like the fact that people don't talk about it. Yeah, absolutely. That's so crazy. Yeah, it's kind of bizarre how they've like normalized something like that. Which is like if that's what you want to do and that's your career path, that's fine.

Do what you got to do. I'm minding my business, just like you should mind yours. And I've already said too, like, gym bros are a very specific type of dude. So it's not all men who work out in the gym. Like that's what they always try to tell me that. Okay, that's clearly not just dumbbell. Yeah.

That looks borderline artificial. And even then, like, due to do any sort of HGH, any kind of performance enhancer, that's fine. Yeah. Do what you got to do. The illegal ones? Is there legal ones? Yeah, there's ones that are like off the book. So yeah, technically illegal, I'm sure.

And then there's some that are regulated, like, they have many that are regulated that you could, like, administer through a physician of any kind. So there's a lot that are lawful. Yeah. So it's not bad. But it's more so just like the person who takes it. If that's the case and that's your journey. journey? Cool. Yeah. Congrats. Good luck with that. Don't turn around and make fun of fat people.

It's like my thing like. Because you gain nothing. Yeah. And you got no room to talk. You want to talk about health. Like you got no room to talk whatsoever. And I always tell people to gym bros are a very specific type of dude who works out. They could be a bodybuilder. They could just be your average gym goer. It's a mindset. It's a terrible. It's an illness if I'm being real. That's truly what it is. You, an illness like they pick up one dumbbell and they're like, I'm going to make my entire personality about my ability to pick up this heavy thing. And that sucks. Read a book.

Go outside touch some grass. Relax. You know what I mean? I remember when I had never felt a touch of a woman too. That was a bummer. Such a bummer for me. Okay, so this next video, basically the breakdown of this one is a woman does a before and after video where she has no makeup and then obviously the caption says like 10 minutes

later as a joke and she has like a full beat face and her hair is like completely done. So she's doing full beat fantasy. And then the comments, obviously, like this one says, thanks for the trust issues are just developed. Makeup is definitely from the devil. The deception. We good, fam. I'm like, okay.

Who is we? Yeah. Who is we? All the other involuntarily abstinent men on TikTok. Exactly. I always think, too, even if, like, she had no makeup. Right? You're telling me if she was like, hey, would you live?

like to kiss me on the lips and like go home. You're telling me you're going to say no. Exactly. You're telling me you're going to be like, no way. Or she has the makeup on and you're like, this girl's really attractive. And then you guys start handing it off. You think you're going to tell her, take off that makeup. Take off the left side so I can see.

I need to like, in order to not be deceived, I'm going to need you to use this makeup. You're not going to give a damn. You're not going to quit pretending. Stop. Who's the show for? I'm like, who's watching? who's tuning in for this? Like, do these conversations even take place like off a TikTok? They don't.

I'm saying me when I lie. Yeah. Me when I lie. When I lie about women. All the women I get. If you were my girl, she's not. There you go. Don't worry about it.

Problem solved. Notice how you said, if. Not when. Literally. Not since she's my girl. You said if. No, literally. And it's like, yeah, that.

Yeah. With an emphasis on if. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Because it's never going to happen. It's like, if, if, and then it's like me when I dream. When I close my eyes and imagine anything's possible. So you have a very vivid imagination.

Yeah, I could make up literally anything too if I really wanted to. Exactly. As it says that's so messed up. She went from a two to an eight manner being manipulated. What you say is not what you say. I'm assuming he's talking about looks. Like you don't look like what I thought you looked, whatever. Oh, okay.

Two to an eight, huh? Two out of an eight? Like she went from a two to an eight. Okay. The negging. I love it when they're like, yeah, she's like a solid eight. Okay. Sure.

That's like I said me when I lie. There was this one dude on TikTok who like he's been running from me for like two years. Like he's blocked me a long time ago. That never stops people from sending me his video. though and he made this video once talking about like a bad date he had or something and he was like she was probably like an eight bad start bad start yeah so you're already lying yeah i said you already you're negging out the gate and she's not even there who's this for like who's this for like yeah yeah yeah she was like an eight blah blah blah blah they basically go on a date and then

she starts getting rubbed the wrong way by the way he's talking to her because he's like saying like He wants to control what women wear. If you're my girl, you don't get to dress however you want. Like, you can't hang out with men when I'm not there. Like, all this weirdo shit. So she immediately is like, goodbye. Rightfully so. Yeah, she gets through the dinner, barely.

And he's like, oh, do you want to go walk on the pier with me? She's like, yeah, yeah, sure. And he goes, okay, we can take my car. She goes, no, I'll just meet you there. This bitch goes home. She goes home. She goes home. She texts him, yeah, it's not going to work out.

Doesn't talk to him anymore. I love it. He tells the story and he's like, yeah, dudes, don't, you know, she was like an aide anyways. You know what? Defund simping. Don't fall for these toes. Like, I'm like, I swear to God. And it's so funny because the video got sent to me because she found the video and stitched it.

She's real pretty girl. Does she respond? She just was watching it. Like she did the duetting where she just watches it the whole time and reacts to it. And she explained what happened even further. And then, of course, dudes were like, yeah. Of course it made her. I'm sure it made him look worse.

Yeah. And so then they sent me the video and I was in disbelief. I was like, I was like, you got God. Yeah, period. She ditched you. You told the story like it was the truth and he's like, yeah, got her. You know what? Take that, you bitch.

The truth will always prevail. The truth will always prevail. And he told the story with his whole chest and she was like, yeah, that's what happened. I ditched him. And he's like, yeah, exactly. Follow me for more tips if you're trying to hit out bitches. Like, what the hell? what kind of delusion you know what I'm saying?

That's so embarrassing. That's so embarrassing. Not even the government could get that out of me. No, not even waterboarding. At least lie. Not even waterboarding. I'm so sorry. I ain't got nothing to say as freaking for me.

You're going to have to kill me. Yeah. You're going to take me out. The way you just admit that with your whole, yeah, she ditched me. Anyways, fellas, if you're trying to date, like, you're trying to give out tips. Yeah. Like I said, consider the source. You ain't get nobody.

You're not pulling nothing. But maybe ingrown. Why don't you worry about that? I'm so cute. Do you need a cream? I cannot, I couldn't believe it. I was like, dude, come on, man. And everybody's a dating coach nowadays?

Yeah, yeah. A dating expert. Yeah, like, don't be a simp. I'm like, is that just, like, code for being nice? You mean, like being empathetic? Like being respectful. Being attracted to someone? I know.

And I even said to it. I was like, you know what's funny is if your goal is to, like, die alone, you're doing a great job. Great job. Keep giving out the tips. You know what? all of you get together, get on a raft, I'm going to push it out to see, never come back. You know what I'm saying? Have each other.

Disappear, babe. Go where Amelia Earhart went. You know what I mean? Like, go with her. Go with God. That's what I'm saying, you know what? Actually, keep giving out these, these are great tips. Actually, I'm kind of like low-key glad that people are, like, really saying how they feel

nowadays. Truly. Because we can see how normal and unhinged a lot of people really are. No. Actually, though. It's actually so bad, but it's like. You're revealing to me who you are. Yeah.

You're revealing to me exactly who you are. It's so obvious. And a lot of men, I think, are revealing just how sketchy the dating scene is in general. So, you know, just ladies, beware. Just pay attention. When someone shows you who they are, believe them. That's what I say. Absolutely.

Believe them the first time. Believe them the first time. Yeah, you don't need a second, third, fourth time to, like, understand. You absolutely don't. They're not joking with you. They're not testing. No. No.

Believe who they are. Yeah. And the thing of when they're like, like, oh, that was a test. The test just showed me who you were. Yeah, I'm like, the fact that you had to test me is the problem. Yeah, yeah. Like, I just.

So you failed actually. Because either way, the fact that you're testing me is suss. Yeah. And you failed. Yeah, I saw this thing too about, I saw it on Twitter once. You probably saw it too. It was like, it was a terrible tweet that like went viral. But it was this guy saying he was like, he planned this whole like weekend trip or

something for a girl he had only been seeing for like a couple weeks. I think he might have seen it. I think I know what you're talking about. Was someone that went viral? Yeah. And he was like, and he was like, and I told her all these things I booked. And she was just like, hey, I can't. Because I think she was a single mom.

Yeah. And she was like, I can't like go away right now. Like for whatever reason. He was like, you know what? Like she didn't even offer to help pay for anything. That was a test. And he said that he had loaned her money. Yeah.

Like he had offered money to her. And she was like. Yeah, yeah. But it was like 40 bucks. And he was like, yeah. When the audience asked him like, so collectively like how much money was it? Yeah. he's like it's about $40.

At least $60. And you know what? All these bitches want is money. They're just like, all they want to do is date a man with money. And I always say to, if that's the case, let's say she does want a date for money, which is like, do what you got to do, girl. Like, I'm not knocking your hustle. You want a day for money?

She's not going to date you. I can promise you that. I always say that. She'd probably aim a little higher. She'd be the worst gold digger in the world. The worst. Why would you pick someone who makes only $30k a year? There's no way.

Silver digger. There's a copper, babe. I don't know what she was digging for, but it was not gold. You know what I mean? Like I was like, you'd be the worst gold digger in the world if she picked you. Because these guys don't be having gold. Like, there's nothing to dig. Like, at all.

That's why I said those problems that like 1% are men have, like athletes. You don't have them. Yeah, you don't have the same problems. You don't have them in Boise, Idaho. Shout out to Boise. But like, you just don't have those kinds of problems. You don't. You're good.

You're just like a regular person. I always say like you're safe. You're good. And it's okay to be good, but like, don't put it higher than it has. Like, don't put yourself up. You're thinking way too highly. Yeah. Men like us, us, us.

Wink, wink, wink. As in, you're both just identifies male. That's probably as far as the similarities go. That's the only thing you guys have in common. Like a lot of men that are in those positions anyway that actually have something to dig. Yeah. How do you think they came and acquired like that money? and that wealth in the first place, by being smart.

Yeah, exactly. So if they're smart, notice how I said if, because some of them are not that smart, they're not going to put themselves in vulnerable enough situations to be taking advantage of anyway. So they're not going to be running around TikTok, being like, man, go to do you guys. First of all, go to work.

You are working. You're not going to be complaining about how everybody's out to get you and da-da-da-da-da. No, truly. Like, you have way too much. You have people in place. In fact, it's too busy. You're too busy.

Like, it's like so ridiculous and so stupid. Yeah, and I always think too, like, even if like 1% are men know that like certain women want to date them for their money. Because they're, they're, yeah, it's the reality. And it's transactional at that point. Exactly. She's hot. He's rich. There you go.

And if they're both benefiting and if they're both gaining, and they both know. And they both know. And they both know. Yeah. But the keyword is no. And consensual. It's consensual. And one is not, you know, playing up more than what it.

Yeah, exactly. I think there's totally nothing wrong with it. Yeah, and it's like, mind your business. Mind your business. They're doing it. Again, the reoccurring theme. Mind your business. It gives you clear skin and so does Starface.

Starface also helps you with clear skin. Okay, so obviously we've talked a lot about full beat fantasies, how terrible men can be. Yes. About full beat fantasy. What do you want all the people out there to know if they love a full beat? I just feel like when it comes to makeup, like you should just do what you like. And do what you like.

It works for you. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I, and I can't be a hypocrite and say that I haven't participated in making fun of makeup. I absolutely have. Yeah. But I think the difference is like I don't go on someone's,

I think it's different when you're like making fun of a trend versus a person. Exactly. And when you're commenting on someone's page. But like we've all seen people applying foundation with lubitons. We've seen the extremes of makeup. Yeah. think that people do that because they know they know that it's going to garner a reaction and exactly so if you're like making fun of that I think it's fair game trolling is the thing yeah but I think

when it comes to makeup like truly you should never ever like even for me like sometimes I get comments and people will be like oh I don't feel like I'm wearing enough like you do it so well and I'm like hey like give yourself credit like I've also been literally doing this for like almost two decades like It's not something that you just wake up knowing how to do. And also, if you feel like a full beat is not for you, you can still enjoy my content, but you don't have to compare or live up to something just because I enjoy it, you know? No, exactly.

It's subjective and makeup is personal. That's why a lot of us got connected to this community because it was personal for us. And it should be personal for you. And whatever that journey looks like, you're welcome. But, you know, don't ever let anybody, like, put you down or make it for less than for loving a transatlantic. or maybe not loving a transformation. Yeah, especially, especially if it's like men trying to make you believe that like men are never going to like a full beat girl. They're never going to, they're going to wipe one.

What is it? Take her swimming on the first day. Remember that shit? Yeah. Oh, well, you got a bad setting spray. Like I said, yeah, let's go swimming on the first day so we can see your shrinkage. You're like, let's go swimming on the first day and watch my beat not move one inch. I guess we're even.

Watch me go fully submerge underwater. and my beat doesn't move. Right. And then what? Turns out I was born this way. And then what you're going to do? Can't do another about shrinkage. And also when it comes to makeup too, we've all had bad makeup trends in the past.

Oh my God. Yeah. That's why I always say too. Because like for me, I went from like I used to be super, super, super, super full beat. Now it's kind of lessened a little bit as time has gone on. Because that was like the times where you're like everything and it's the most exciting. Yeah. Big like dip brow phase.

I went through all that too. Oh, man. That was hilarious. Yeah, once I found strip lashes and I figured out how to put them on, game over. Game over. I was buying them all the time. What little money I had, I was spending them on Ardell's. I was up to say shout out to Ardell.

I was shelling it out. Yeah, the girls on. Yeah, they did. Let me tell you something. In the trenches. Talk about in the trenches. Period. It's a starter lash for sure.

I love an Ardell. Absolutely. And that's why I always say, too, if you want to be a full beat bitch, go off, coin. Do you? Whatever, whatever you love. And makeup's not gendered, so it's for anybody. Absolutely. Whatever you want to do, do it.

And especially if men don't like it, you should do it. Especially if. And stand in it. Yeah. Don't hold back, stand in it and enjoy it. It's fun. Absolutely. We love a good transformation.

So we just, you know, live in it. And make sure you go watch Jackie's channel to learn how to transform yourself if you're so interested. But where can everybody find you, Jackie? Literally everywhere at Jackie Ina. And if you're more into like lifestyle on Instagram, you can follow me. My second Instagram is lavishly Jackie. It's more like cleaning and home decor, bouginess.

It's fun. Jackie loves home decor. I love looking at your home decor. I do. And Jackie has a thriving candle business as well. I do. It's called Forever Mood. It's also available at Sephora.

Love. Oh my God. I have all your candles all over my house. I just feel like I should be honest and tell her. everyone. That is not a joke. I have them in every room in my house. I love it. In my room and in my kitchen and in my living room. Love. I love a candle in the kitchen. Me too. I love a good scent. We love sense. We'll be here forever. But I want to thank Jackie for coming on my show today. I adore you. Thank you. You're the best. I adore you. Me and Jackie.

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